Why Did Hitler Try To Destroy Every Copy Of This Movie? (No Spoilers)
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When the Nazis seized power, they immediately took control of the media. Propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels understood the power of cinema and how to wield that power for evil. But as the Nazis were preparing to strike, a movie about “The Great War” by legendary director Jean Renoir was gaining popularity in Europe. It was called The Grand Illusion and its themes of peace and unity immediately attracted the ire of the Nazis. Goebbels dubbed the movie Cinematographic Enemy Number One and set his sights on eradicating every copy and keeping its message from dismantling Hitler’s warped plans for the world. So what made The Grand Illusion so threatening to the Nazi’s vision? This is the story of how the Nazis tried (and failed) to destroy Renoir’s masterpiece.
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Sources:
(Business Insider) Nazi Germany said this anti-war movie was 'cinematographic enemy number one' - bit.ly/3xst2gZ
(Commentary) The Grand Illusion Blu-ray Commentary
(Criterion) Criterion Collection Press Booklet for The Grand Illusion
(Fiss) Grand Illusion: The Third Reich, the Paris Exposition, and the Cultural Seduction of France By Karen Fiss
(Jean Renoir Wiki) - bit.ly/3cQkGX6
(Lubin) Grand Illusions: American Art and the First World War Illustrated Edition
by David M. Lubin
(McDonald) In Search of La Grande Illusion: A Critical Appreciation of Jean Renoir's Elusive Masterpiece by Nicholas Macdonald
(Pierre-Auguste Renoir Wiki) - bit.ly/3xwmQVw
(Renoir Intro) Renoir’s introduction to the movie, Blu-ray special feature
(Vance TIFF) Jonathan F. Vance on LA GRANDE ILLUSION - bit.ly/3FQwmWq
Clips:
How Hitler Invaded Half Of Europe | Greatest Events of World War 2 In Colour (Discovery UK) - bit.ly/3xuoNkZ
Benito Mussolini & The Italian Facist Party | Our History (Our History) - bit.ly/3FLTuVK
Vichy France (Swaggerdal) - bit.ly/3FP8t1k
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What's your favorite banned movie?
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I guess Scorsese's The Last Temptation of Christ
You took my answer Tyler. The first time I saw the film was in my freshman year of high school, a year after Kubrick's death, and was a German bootleg, with subtitles. I would hope Renoir and Kubrick would respond with a "Viddy well".
Paths of Glory
I didn't even know Paths of Glory was banned, but sure enough it was, in France, and Switzerland too. That's my second-best film about war, after only Grand Illusion. I suppose I'd put Thin Red Line next in line after that. Anyway, this is definitely another good reason for hating Nazis.
My favourite banned movie is the uncut version of a Serbian film.
One has to marvel at an international film archivist conspiracy to save works of art during wartime. Amazing!
It breaks my heart anytime I see historic artwork destroyed, because it means that the pleasure of viewing it will be denied to so many people. God bless the people who saved this film. ❤
No so much banned as suppressed by its own studio: Terry Gilliam’s Brazil. The studio wanted a ‘love conquers all’ ending, while Gilliam demanded a much darker conclusion. He ended up buying a full page ad in Variety, demanding to know when they were going to release his film.
Today it is considered a classic and is part of the Criterion Film Collection.
The work of Henri Langlois, saving films during the war, moving them around among secret cells of "agents", is worth an entire chapter of film history.
I just looked up who that was, and why didn't you say he was the founder of the Cinematheque? I've actually been to the Cinematheque a few years ago - I still have a program and the pictures I took of the robot suit from Metropolis they had on display there.
I cherish every channel, especially this one, that dares to cover the real foundational classics of cinema. I think I saw most of the "Criterion Collection" back in the '70s and '80s at real arthouse theaters in real 35-millimeter. It was a grand time to be a cinema buff. And yet, with access to these masterpieces so easy now, people by and large ignore them. Cinema Tyler is one of the saints of RUclips, not merely covering the same dozen movies from the 1980s like all the other channels (yawn). And thanks for the overview of the greatness that was Jean Renoir.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
Dares, I'm just sorry that you missed the early days of our Free Internet here when anything and everything went, ideas and opinions formed and not this censored nursery for one clear path. The information is still out here but I swear that you'll not discover it on channels such as these, if it held anything of interest it would be either Age Limited, Unlisted or simply deleted. This is my truth, best wishes 🙏
I just saw The Discreet Charm if the Bourgeoisie at Film Forum and Diva
Hear hear, and quite yes..
The threat that governments felt from his movie reminds me of how they covered up Picasso's Guernica at the UN when the US wanted to talk about invading Iraq. Art is dangerously powerful.
Yes , we are use to art imitating life , but when life imitates art that's when it goes express through crazy land. Imagine if the Pentagon took it's que from Dr strangelove during the Cuban missile crisis.
That's the perverse anti-power of censorship, it just spotlighted the painting (and its message) in everyone's minds,
whereas if they'd just left it be no one would have given the painting a second thought
(It having been on the same wall for decades and was just a part of the overall U.N. HQ furniture)
Unbelievable that the UN allowed that
@@duantorruellas716 they pretty much did
@@GuinessOriginal hahahahaha 😂 oh you caught that , good 👍
Favorite banned movie off the top of my head:
Monty Python's "Life of Brian." It was banned in Norway (although only for a year) for blasphemy. The Swedes even came up with the tagline: "The movie so funny they banned it in Norway!"
This reminds me of Lucas trying to destroy every copy of the Star Wars Holiday Special.
To me, Grand Illusion is much more a commentary about class than one about war, or maybe it's about both. Renoir was saying that the upper class ideals of a gentleman-like war was just an illusion, or had become one with 20th century warfare.
Renoir was both communist and pacifist, so it is clear he is going for both things, but he does show the gentlemen's war ideal as both illusion and admirable do to how he is framing it through both a socialist and pacifist lense, I assume.
All war is about class. Rich people in power ordering poor people to fight and die.
@@GuinessOriginal Yes, but up until the first world war the upper classes believed a code of honor between the rich during wars, some kind of gentleman's agreement.
That illusion died in WWI. That's what the movie and the stroheim character are about
@@rafaelandrade7627 what code of honour? There’s no code of honour when you’re poor, you just get sent to your death for their benefit
Tyler, I am so glad to see you making videos again, and with more humour and ever deeper research than before. Please continue! I love your work!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
The Death of Stalin (2017) is banned in Russia, and its one of my favorite movies.
What I find so crazy about this is my perceived growth of your channel. It's wild that I watched you just six months ago and you were doing voiceover on a video. Now you have jokes and clever editing and you're showing your face (you might have done these things before but I guess I just saw your scholarly stuff) and it's super cool. I feel like you usually see this kind of growth over years and it's kind of crazy to see such a brilliant change in a short period of time. Very cool man
As a child The Grand Illusion was my favourite film and I watched it over and over, not really knowing what made it so good for me. It still remains one of the core causes for my love of film. Thank you so much for the video.
Your videos about cinema history and the effort you put into them really shines through everything you put on RUclips. You are criminally underrated and by far my favorite YTer
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
Jean Renoir's quote on this film shown here, on how he expressed his deepest pacifist feelings in this film, it was a hit... and then war broke out is the real "quicker" on the strength and weakness of culture: strong enough to express our deepest feelings and be feared by the enemies of said feelings, weak enough to not defeat a rough reality and risk be destroyed by it, but strong enough to have people doing everything to save it.
"Let me in, or else." "Or else what?" "Or else we will be very angry with you... and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are." But what an angry letter, cultural works can be, sometimes!
The production values on your Channel have sky-rocketed, great job!
Your vid’s are really cool, Tyler!
I know a lot of film scholars think that "Rules of the Game" is Renoir's best film, but I'm fully behind this one being his best. Visually, emotionally, and structurally, this is a damn near-perfect movie.
Nein!
I hear you. I agree that Grand Illusion is, if not better than Rules of the Game, at least easier to fall in love with. Indeed, if I had to choose, I'd might well say Grand Illusion is my very favorite movie. But I do love Rules more each and every time, and that still holds true in double-digit viewings. I'll frustrate my family by watching them both again this weekend... and maybe Children of Paradise too, while I'm at it.
Great video as always, although I thought you were going to talk about was Mrs.Miniver. A film so good at its propaganda messaging that the Joseph goebbels explained how it was perfect and he was scared of it.
The Ladykillers was on the prison ‘banned list’ after it emerged that a group of recently released convicts had carried out a copycat robbery after having seen the movie whilst under sentence.
I love that you talk about foreign classics... I also love how you try and fail to pronounce foreign names ;)
6:41 Mussolini looking and acting like every rapper, ever...
Loving the new style to your vids
Wonderful in depth analysis as always, thank you for guiding me to films I would have not know without your videos Tyler!
Thanks so much!
Wow, what a great video. Thank you for making this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much for this video essay, the movie and the story on its survival is incredibly inspirational.
A CinemaTyler video about Jean Renoir??? I love it!
12:59 "Silver Nitrate is highly flammable."!? As a film photographer and a former chemistry student who made a Silver Nitrate particulate, I can say that "Silver Nitrate is NOT flammable!" Nitrate-based/Nitrocellulose film stock, however, is quite flammable.
Le Grande Illusion was certainly inflammatory.
Excellent, as always! And time to re-watch “The Grand Illusion” since I saw it sooooo long ago via a poor quality print!
great essay
also love The Thing boardgame in the background
Awesome video, awesome channel.
Thank you!
This is one example of controversial or banned cinema: Stanley Kubrick was so horrified that people were imitating the stunts in his 1971 social thriller, _A Clockwork Orange,_ along with death threats to him and his family, not to mention angry protestors outside their home of Childwickbury Manor, he gave one order to Columbia-Warner Distributors (or maybe it was called Columbia-EMI-Warner at the time) to _withdraw all the copies in Britain_ in order for this to never be seen there ever again.
But after he died, it was finally allowed and re-released. Maybe before he died, just as he was finishing his controversial swan song, _Eyes Wide Shut,_ he probably decided that the film was penalized long enough. Or maybe his wife decided it after he died.
Funny, that’s not what i heard. Anyway, who cares.
It looked like a holiday camp instead of a POW camp.
I freaking love your channel!
Thank you!
The 2013 French movie Renoir is an interesting study of Papa Renoir’s last model, who became Jean Renoir’s wife and muse, causing him to get into the movie biz at all. She and Jean separated in 1931, and he continued to become a famous director, whle she died the same year as he did, unknown and in poverty.
The documentary The Battle for Citizen Kane reveals a simular situation where William Randolph Hearst sought and coerced Hollywood studio heads to burn every copy of Citizen Kane. These events happened not too separated by time…
best video ever ! loved it
Great video! And Tyler you’re looking FAB-U-LOUS!
Thanks!
Quentin needs to make a movie about this. Except Renoir takes a group of archivists and they kill Hitler and steal the silver nitrate originals in the process.
That Joseph *gobbling turkey noise* joke was absolutely amazing!
NO remake. One doesn't mess with a Masterpiece!
I love your videos, man.
I'm not sure if Wake in Fright was ever banned but I read its master print was lost for like two decades.
Wake In Fright was saved by a miracle -- literally retrieved from a dumpster. It was not (to the best of my knowledge) banned, but it upset half of everyone who saw it -- and still does.
When you ask about my favourite BANNED movie at the end of this video, I immediately started thinking of music biopics, as I thought you said BAND movies. I was unsure why this disconnected genre would be included in this wonderful video about 'The Grand Illusion,' but in my confusion, I had a good hard think.
For me, it would have to be "Love and Mercy" (Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys) or "Control" (Joy Division). Both films were extraordinary and really allowed me to develop a new sense of the bands being depicted. "Get Back" is wonderful from a technical standpoint, but lacked the new discoveries I made in the other films; all the Beatles acted and performed as I thought they would.
So even though I misheard your question Tyler, I ask you the same unrelated one. What do you think is the best film that focuses on a historical figure in music? I thank you for your work, and treasure your videos.
I don't know if it counts because it is totally inaccurate, but I loved Amadeus. It's been a long time, but The Doors movie was pretty cool, too.
@@CinemaTyler Interesting. I know the Oliver Stone film pissed off every living member of the band, which always made me enjoy it less. And Wolfgang isn't exactly around to defend himself.
But I will give Amadeus a try. By the way, I showed your Mubi advertisement to my parents, and they plan on canceling their Netflix account on just going with Mubi. Sometimes I feel that RUclips content creators make better advertisements for Mubi than the actual company does.
Keep up the amazing work Tyler.
What an extraordinary story.
Thank you.
Great stuff
Great video, really fascinating!. Would love to someday see you cover Ken Russell's The Devils, which is a favorite banned/censored movie of mine
Thanks! I'll check it out!
This was great, thanks!
I believe Häxan: Witchcraft Through the Ages, was banned in some places and that's an excellent film. Also, Last Tango in Paris, and I head Apocalypse Now had been banned in South Korea for a time.
Häxan has been on my list of films to watch ever since I saw The Phantom Carriage by the same director which is an incredibly heartfelt film - It's a Wonderful Life but moodier, grittier and 20 years earlier.
@@GiggleBlizzard Yeah Haxan is great, it's like a fiction/documentary hybrid made of numerous vignettes about witchcraft. The Phantom Carriage is actually directed by Victor Sjostrom (who was also the main actor in Bergmans Wild Strawberries), meanwhile, the director of Haxan is a man named Benjamin Christensen. Although both are Scandinavian filmmaker.
@@JRyrie-ul6yw Oh yeah, thank you for correcting me. I don't know why I got them mixed up, I think because there's another film called The Wind by Sjöström I've also been meaning to watch.
Thank you for this outstanding essay about this legendary uber-masterpiece. I agree with Orson Welles, this might be the greatest film ever made. And, as you said two years ago, this film is extremely relevant for the moment, how I wish all would watch.
Watching this, and the fact that it's a fine young man of my sons age presenting, brings home to me with some impact the power and scope that the film industry has had on humanity and especially in the last century were its birth and success was phenomenal! Movies are something special however I feel that they almost hit the worst obstacle when c19 hit. I certainly lost all sense of what was due, out, in process and so on and obviously the likes of Netflix Amazon et al appeared to take over but hopefully we will get a renaissance and this chaps grandchildren will have something special to create uploads about. Thanks for the work and efforts uploading these for us all 👍
This was a fun one - thank you!!!
0:09 nein nein nein nein what a performance by Martin Wuttke
That wallpapers just fabulous
I'd just like to say this video is hilarious and I'm happy to have my name at the end.
_Les Enfants during Paradis_
_Children of Paradise_
Marcel Carné
Made during the war, in part during the occupation of France, despite being banned by the Nazis. Some of the actors were disappeared.
The movie is an expression of French cultural values. Love, freedom.
Ken Russel’s The Devils. The uncut director’s cut is still unavailable in the United States because Warner Bros is banning it from the public.
So cool from Tyler to promote ''le cinéma québécois''. Thanks!
Kubrick's Paths of Glory was banned in France until 1975. I think you already know the story and, yes, just as Renoir's La Grande Illusion it's an anti-war oeuvre...
'Spinal tap' is my favourite band movie
Boy would this be better without the crappy musical underlay.
I feel like I'm on hold with my Doctor's office, or something...
Due to copyright issues the German government ordered every copy of Nosferato destroyed. One copy made it to the USA where the copyright laws didn't apply. So now every copy you see is from the one that luckily made it to the US
I saw this film for the first time about a year ago and loved it, french movies from this era and the decades after it have such a specific style of humour that make me smile.
You need to work on that writing. They were shot down and taken as prisoners to a prison of war camp where they were imprisoned. Pure poetry
My father was born 84 years ago tomorrow *Dec 2nd, one day after you posted this video* My mother turned 84 back in January.
This is one of the best videos I have ever watched.
Thanks so much!
Like the late actor PIERRE FRESNAY SAID IN THE FILM.GROWN MEN ACTING LIKE CHILDREN, PLAYING WAR..A BLESSED FILM
This may be the greatest story ever told...about the attempt to make a great story to become untold.
you should probably check out the greatest story NEVER told.
Spinal Tap is my favorite band movie. Just kidding. Also I laughed out loud at the turkey sounds. Well done. Completely took me by surprise.
Hey Cinema Tyler, love the video as always. I hope you see this because I wanted to say that you’re part two of the Daniel Plainview series was taken down, I was wondering, would someone be able to see it through Patereon? I know it’s old but I’d love to be able to study it if you’re willing to put It back up!
So sorry I missed this! I have put it up (ad-free) on Patreon here: www.patreon.com/posts/18814353
@@CinemaTyler wooooo! Thanks man,no worries and I appreciate you putting it up somewhere for us to see!
Please make a video on Raging Bull or Phantom Thread 🙏🤞
Great video but the POW experiences of both the North and South in the US Civil War (1861-65) were complex, massive and horrendous. Andersonville, Elmira, Fort Delaware to name a few.
Over 600,000 POWs. In Southern camps mortality was 16%, in Northern camps mortality was 12%.
I love those early Renoir films, especially Grand Illusion and Rules of the Game (which focuses on the rich just before the first world war)
Love the new studio!
I thought this subject was going to be about a Fritz Lang film
Thanks! Check this out: ruclips.net/video/_M-fRwWg2tg/видео.html
@@CinemaTyler oh amazing, thank you!
I love your channel. 👌👍✌
One particular banned movie was an Egyptian film called Al-Karnak, a 1975 Egyptian political film based on a novel written by Egyptian writer and Nobel Prize winner Naguib Mahfouz with the same name. The film was about a group of university students who were arrested without comitting a crime because of their meetings at the cafe "Karnak", which was known for hosting some thinkers who sometimes criticize the 1952 revolution.
Salah Nasr, the former General Egyptian intelligence Directorate chief at the time, filed a lawsuit against the film, which he described as insulting the General Intelligence Service and its chief represented in his person through the character of Khaled Safwan. There was also complaints from the Minister of Culture at the time, Yusuf Sibai, who objected to the presence of a leftist intellectual character. The film was banned for many years from being broadcast on national television until the 2000s.
Well this is fortuitous! I spent an hour last night trying to find the name of a film noir I watched a while ago, and all I remembered was that the lead actor was French. Recognized Jean Gabin immediately from this, and found the movie: Moontide
Will def check out Le Grande Illusion!
The german with single eypeice looks just like the characature on the front cover of "The Myth of German Villainy" lol
Ja vowl mein friend.
Ahhh, yes, World War I. Or, as it was known at the time, International Civil War II.
@11:56 I thought you were going to do the classic Norm MacDonald line "Or so the German's would have us believe".
That's a pretty stirring endorsement. "The Nazis hated this movie? Count me in!"
just waiting for that ad-demonitizing bomb to go off, that happens with any inclusion of our favourite mustashed Chaplin impersonator... great video as always
"Joseph gobble gobble gobble" hahahahaha 🤣🤣
My favorite band movie is “KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park”
I was obsessed with moebius in the late 70s
Ken Russell's THE DEVILS. And so relevant to British politics today, mashing up religion, political persecution, class politics and mass hysteria. If Michel Foucault was a film maker. [chef kiss] One of the greats of British cinema. Very rare.
Wow now i know how 'Hogan's Heroes' was born.
Ken Russell’s “The Devils”
00:42 something like that happening in my country.
Hard Day's Night was a great band movie
My favorite band movie is The Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour" (1967). Oh, wait, you said banned. In that case... "Scarface" (1932)
I'd love to see you talk about Once Upon a Time in America by Sergio Leone
I enjoy Tyler swearing.
I've studied WW2 and this has got be one of the most ripping yarns to come out of that terrible time.
According to the memoirs of Hitler's private pilot he was a big fan of Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy, "Fra Diavolo" he liked most. Also one of his favorite movies: Charlie Chaplin's "Great Dictator".
"Russia doing fucked up shit. Japan doing fucked up shit."
I laughed harder than I had any right to.
Maybe they should make a sequel called: A Noble Lie.
14:00; To paraphrase Jiminy Glick's main question to Mel Brooks, "what's your beef with the Nazis?"
Brilliant film and fascinating topic. Personally I could do without the "funny" cutaways. It doesn't really work and becomes irritating very fast.
I do hope, ‘Cinema Tyler,’ that you can ask yourself: Is there some way to delve into the fascinating history of filmmaking and films made, that doesn’t rely on ‘cutesy’? Comes a time to pare away all that schlock, ie, that which appeals to the popular-eyes & ears, ‘scoring points’ via totally distracting references to ‘The Simpsons,’ or break dancing bits removed from the print of ‘The Grand Illusion,’ or a silly rendering into - literal! -- gobbledygook as the name of Goebbels. Above all, in 1937, there was no such thing as ‘World War One.’ It was known then, by its ONLY name: ‘The Great War.’ I believe you are better than this.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@thorn262 I think someone needs a snickers
squirrel and hedgehog? lol
Straw Dogs might be favorite banned movie. It’s definitely hard to watch, and certainly a film of its time, but the way it actively preys on basic male fears and insecurities is interesting.
Wow! Serendipity..
I just downloaded this movie, randomly, recently. Which is unusual.
Maybe an algorithmic recommendation after I researched "All Quiet on The Western Front" which has a powerful battle sequence, and is worth watching for that sequence alone !!!
The Grand Illusion and All Quiet on the Western Front would make a great double-feature. Whenever I see the relationship between the French and Germans in The Grand Illusion, I'm always reminded of this scene: ruclips.net/video/er2a5WhYU-4/видео.html
You had me at "algorithmic recommendation"...
@@jimb1580
"you had me at...."
Bland Platitude Generator
"Invaded" Vienna...that's a good one.