At this point I'm genuinely surprised he still bothers doing iron man Doesn't even seem to enjoy it half the time I still really wanna see him do it though, maybe he's doing it for the homies. I think he can do it with the right mindset
If you look at old iron man attempts, opponents were playing more fun as well. These days more people play it safe. Wifi makes camping optimal for pretty much every character.
@@brendanmohareful Camping is just good to do in any competitive game. Every smash game is generally pretty aggressive and hold-forwardy until players get better and you just need to be more careful.
No joke, I'm not fighting Little Mac in a regular straight up fight. My mini-mans still beat a full on gorilla *while* monkey was cheating full on. Being able to pick him up and fold him like a chair or not is not the dilemma: the problem is actually *doing* it.
@@zag5434 Yes, 1500N in one punch to be exact. Said force is still more than enough to shatter ribs and jaws, and that's assuming the target knows enough about fighting to anticipate said punch and brace for it. And that's ONE punch. Sorry to put it like this, but NO untrained human being is taking 107lb Little Mac in a fight. You would need to be a high caliber athlete at the bare minimum to stand a chance.
@@CommentPositionInformer are you saying thats how much force he can make in the game or thats how much a boxer that size could make in real life? Cause if that claim is substantiated ny using real life measurements of similar-sized boxers then it proves my point that he is only capable of those feats in the games because of game logic and in the real world he wouldnt be able to do that
Little Mac canonically beat the CHAMP Iron Mike Tyson, and Marss thinks he can beat him in a street fight. I didn't even make this mean, I just stated facts and it was still embarrassing.
I don't know bub... Mac is capable of beating Mike Tyson, by outmanuvering him. He dies to just 1 of his punches. He is glass. But he will dizzy you, outplay you, and you'll get tired to death.
I def got better from watching your vids and hearing you point out a habit, like “this guy loves to roll off ledge.” That kinda thing made me look for player habits and figure out how to exploit them.
If you want to get better with Little Mac’s recovery, All you have to do to be strategic, be smart to maneuver your recovery and always save your double jump! Peanut taught me how to recover with Little Mac, If they trying to edgeguard you, You need to counter it to gain some slighted horizontal distance so you have a chance to make it back!
If you're struggling to make sense of the last 5 minutes of this, listen to the freakonomics radio podcast "why you aren't a professional athlete". Goes over the phenomenon in depth very well.
re: asking for advice - I am not a top player, but I have been asked for advice after beating someone in tournament a few times. I will say that some people are more interested in appearing receptive to advice than to actually internalizing that advice in any meaningful way. I can imagine feeling pretty disillusioned about giving advice if I ran into that sort of person enough times.
As someone who has received advice and knows 100% that it's true, sometimes I just can't apply it. You can tell me to roll less and I'll probably still roll. You can tell me about the crazy diagonal burst range that everyone has, but I'll likely implement it rarely. There's so much to juggle while playing smash. I often go for awhile and then I'm just like "oh yeah this move I've always had does this thing that I always knew it did that could have been useful"
if you feel disheartened or discouraged by marss's rant about innate talent, then your motivation wasnt strong enough in the first place. grind your heart out or quit while ur ahead, those r ur two options.
Little Mac can move almost as fast a sonic there’s absolutely no way you’re beating that bro in a fight when he’s breaking the sound barrier while sprinting at you
Honestly, fair thing about the advise. I hate repeating myself a couple times, so over 5 years would be annoying. I do think it helps people, though. They just have to also be learning for themself. Like, Ive been watching your content for years and within the past couple months of going to locals, Ive started to see where the advice comes in. I see that Im more focused on myself and my habits than my opponent and their habits, even if im looking at them physically more. I start to see and feel it once I start getting read and I dont know what to do. I feel like Im playing from behind cause all Im doing is trying to conceal my habits and not looking at what to do from there. That's what I think about it, but I'm also not a variety streamer that has been asked thousands of times for advice. Either way, repeating yourself sounds annoying as hell
Kinda discouraging hearing a top player I’ve looked up to say all that. I understand it’s obv not personal and just talking from experience but as someone who does try to improve and has been playing since brawl id like to think my work and time put in is helping my ability in some way. But ig if that was the case players like big D and veteran smashers would be winning more majors. All you can do is try, I don’t like thinking that natural uncontrolled factors affect the height of ability possible through work and practice
I think his argument is right in a vacuum especially when it comes to pure tech skill. However he also said this game is knowledge. Since ultimate is out there are top players collecting knowledge. If you wanna be good in any kind of thing you just need the skill to be able to extract and incorporate that knowledge. That is why imo young players can and do dominante most veterans. It’s not only age, it’s that all they learned you don’t need to discover yourself. You can copy them. I will say however that doing this will only get you far if you actually have the hands to profit from it too. But that isn’t a huge barrier if you invest enough time.
Hear me out, Marss Sonic would lowkey be kinda cracked. Marss’ ZSS is so unorthodox as it is. I feel like his Sonic would be pretty aggressive and super callout heavy. Using his signature feel-based play, Sonic would basically look like his ZSS except the moves actually link into each other
Im of the opinion that natural gaming talent is real. And if you suck you can be good but generally the chances are lower for them to be good instead of not just plateauing at some mid level. Ive always been able to just pick up games and be good. Games are easy and people just suck as a whole. Won my share of Smash tourneys back in the Brawl days when I went to them
I don't know if the comment about not looking at the opponent was sarcasm or not. But generally I watch myself were are you supposed to focus during the match? 21:30
The more I hear marss talk about smash and learning it, the more I realize we've just lost any interesting top players, they're all just salty assholes, marss is the most interesting top player, and hes just a shit talker, he has no personality or interesting parts about him, the passion isn't there and neither is the creativity, there's a reason melee is more interesting, and marss shows that with how uncreative and boring he is
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You know it’s gonna be good if it has attempt #1 at the beginning of the video
At this point I'm genuinely surprised he still bothers doing iron man
Doesn't even seem to enjoy it half the time
I still really wanna see him do it though, maybe he's doing it for the homies. I think he can do it with the right mindset
That’a what elite smash will do to you lmao. Had high energy at the beginning and it was completely drained by the end of it 💀
It's good content
If you look at old iron man attempts, opponents were playing more fun as well. These days more people play it safe. Wifi makes camping optimal for pretty much every character.
@@brendanmohareful Camping is just good to do in any competitive game. Every smash game is generally pretty aggressive and hold-forwardy until players get better and you just need to be more careful.
You got lucky I was playing mii sword fighter Marss. You have yet to face my full wrath
Johns
@@Godlysound Johns
johns
thank you, dingus3017
No joke, I'm not fighting Little Mac in a regular straight up fight.
My mini-mans still beat a full on gorilla *while* monkey was cheating full on. Being able to pick him up and fold him like a chair or not is not the dilemma: the problem is actually *doing* it.
No johns can save you from losing to k rool as pikachu
Wifi k rool is top 10
People having a debate on if they can beat Little Mac when he literally beat both Mike Tyson and Donkey Kong, I can't
But he wouldn’t be able to do that in real life there’s only so much force you can generate when you’re that small
He didn't beat anyone. I beat them. Without me he just stood there.
You can just destroy the console and he is dead
@@zag5434
Yes, 1500N in one punch to be exact.
Said force is still more than enough to shatter ribs and jaws, and that's assuming the target knows enough about fighting to anticipate said punch and brace for it.
And that's ONE punch. Sorry to put it like this, but NO untrained human being is taking 107lb Little Mac in a fight. You would need to be a high caliber athlete at the bare minimum to stand a chance.
@@CommentPositionInformer are you saying thats how much force he can make in the game or thats how much a boxer that size could make in real life? Cause if that claim is substantiated ny using real life measurements of similar-sized boxers then it proves my point that he is only capable of those feats in the games because of game logic and in the real world he wouldnt be able to do that
Little Mac canonically beat the CHAMP Iron Mike Tyson, and Marss thinks he can beat him in a street fight. I didn't even make this mean, I just stated facts and it was still embarrassing.
Buttttt realistically mars could in fact probabaly beat the number one boxer at 115lbs in a street fight, IF he had grappling training .
Wasn’t that a dream fight?
Didn’t Mr sandman destroy like, a whole two story building with one punch? And Mac beat him!
@@tyhollo3426 one punch and he’s literally dead tho
@@tyhollo3426 frame 15 death
Bit of a downer episode king, ngl. I understand your frustration tho, you must be disillusioned with helping gamers at this point
I don't know bub...
Mac is capable of beating Mike Tyson, by outmanuvering him.
He dies to just 1 of his punches. He is glass.
But he will dizzy you, outplay you, and you'll get tired to death.
I mean he also takes uppercuts from a guy who can pull a semi truck with his teeth so
why do i feel like every video is a diff editor
People hate doing those braindead ass jobs for little money? 😂🎉
Just a guess
Same editor, different subscribe panel, it's doing it great that guy
he’s killing them off 😔
Like them better without the memes !
hes doing an editor iron man challenge as well
marss nihilism video
if i get into a streetfight with little mac i'm pulling out the closest stopsign and this man's getting a whollop
Little Mac has beat donkey kong.
Donkey Kong PUNCHED TO MOON OUT OF ORBIT.
Ain't none of us even surviving.
Little mac has thrown hands with mike tyson and dk, i dont think a single smash fan gonna last a min.
Mans sounding like Phil from Hercules right now.
15:23 little mac goes from ledge to ledge under the stage
It’s crazy how bitter of a person mars is. But he does try to be nice and that’s cool. Also great player
Talking about cheese while playing Pika vs K Rool is certainly a statement
I def got better from watching your vids and hearing you point out a habit, like “this guy loves to roll off ledge.” That kinda thing made me look for player habits and figure out how to exploit them.
If you want to get better with Little Mac’s recovery, All you have to do to be strategic, be smart to maneuver your recovery and always save your double jump!
Peanut taught me how to recover with Little Mac, If they trying to edgeguard you, You need to counter it to gain some slighted horizontal distance so you have a chance to make it back!
I like the sound effects, it reminds me of old marss vids
I don’t think the editor made the sound effects loud enough, I could almost hear the gameplay
marss got the silintor editor on this one I see
Like the videos with less memes and editing !!!
Considering little Mac canonically beat Mike Tyson and a gorilla, I think he wins that fight every time
If you're struggling to make sense of the last 5 minutes of this, listen to the freakonomics radio podcast "why you aren't a professional athlete". Goes over the phenomenon in depth very well.
pikachu deserves a bad two frame
When you died as pika, I think your tail was above still, and he clipped that. Not sure but looks like it :/
re: asking for advice -
I am not a top player, but I have been asked for advice after beating someone in tournament a few times. I will say that some people are more interested in appearing receptive to advice than to actually internalizing that advice in any meaningful way. I can imagine feeling pretty disillusioned about giving advice if I ran into that sort of person enough times.
As someone who has received advice and knows 100% that it's true, sometimes I just can't apply it. You can tell me to roll less and I'll probably still roll. You can tell me about the crazy diagonal burst range that everyone has, but I'll likely implement it rarely. There's so much to juggle while playing smash. I often go for awhile and then I'm just like "oh yeah this move I've always had does this thing that I always knew it did that could have been useful"
if you feel disheartened or discouraged by marss's rant about innate talent, then your motivation wasnt strong enough in the first place. grind your heart out or quit while ur ahead, those r ur two options.
Little Mac can move almost as fast a sonic there’s absolutely no way you’re beating that bro in a fight when he’s breaking the sound barrier while sprinting at you
@Marss_NE What controller you got? It sounds so satisfying
I’m 95% sure he uses a stock GC controller
@@partysodown tysm
Yo, is bum Big Ugly Monster? Because that's an OG if so.
LIttle Mac beat MIKE TYSON and a gorilla no shot any of us could stand up to that
Honestly, fair thing about the advise. I hate repeating myself a couple times, so over 5 years would be annoying. I do think it helps people, though. They just have to also be learning for themself. Like, Ive been watching your content for years and within the past couple months of going to locals, Ive started to see where the advice comes in. I see that Im more focused on myself and my habits than my opponent and their habits, even if im looking at them physically more. I start to see and feel it once I start getting read and I dont know what to do. I feel like Im playing from behind cause all Im doing is trying to conceal my habits and not looking at what to do from there.
That's what I think about it, but I'm also not a variety streamer that has been asked thousands of times for advice. Either way, repeating yourself sounds annoying as hell
m2k carries the ult meta ima be real and melee tbh everyone looks to him for coaching.
SICKEST BAIR IN THE GAME 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
16:08 wait regular mac or wire frame mac? Hahaha
4:19 I’m pretty sure that was a phantom hit too lol
6:07 mhm yes this game is good
this game's in Beta
K Rool needs it
About time
17:26 which song is playing in the backround
Sounds like Abyss of Time
@@_Rodeo Thank you
Kinda discouraging hearing a top player I’ve looked up to say all that. I understand it’s obv not personal and just talking from experience but as someone who does try to improve and has been playing since brawl id like to think my work and time put in is helping my ability in some way. But ig if that was the case players like big D and veteran smashers would be winning more majors. All you can do is try, I don’t like thinking that natural uncontrolled factors affect the height of ability possible through work and practice
I think his argument is right in a vacuum especially when it comes to pure tech skill. However he also said this game is knowledge. Since ultimate is out there are top players collecting knowledge. If you wanna be good in any kind of thing you just need the skill to be able to extract and incorporate that knowledge. That is why imo young players can and do dominante most veterans. It’s not only age, it’s that all they learned you don’t need to discover yourself. You can copy them.
I will say however that doing this will only get you far if you actually have the hands to profit from it too. But that isn’t a huge barrier if you invest enough time.
Acola ahh gameplay 3:35
Goofy ahh Ryu
Hear me out, Marss Sonic would lowkey be kinda cracked. Marss’ ZSS is so unorthodox as it is. I feel like his Sonic would be pretty aggressive and super callout heavy. Using his signature feel-based play, Sonic would basically look like his ZSS except the moves actually link into each other
That's just Sonix
but then he has to play sonic
Im of the opinion that natural gaming talent is real. And if you suck you can be good but generally the chances are lower for them to be good instead of not just plateauing at some mid level. Ive always been able to just pick up games and be good. Games are easy and people just suck as a whole. Won my share of Smash tourneys back in the Brawl days when I went to them
A lot of young players will hop into the twitch chat of a top player of their character hoping they will get the advice to get better lol
Marss droping genetics and talent blackpills this video, and people don't want to take their medicine lol
Spoiler alert guys: Life is not fair
I don't know if the comment about not looking at the opponent was sarcasm or not. But generally I watch myself were are you supposed to focus during the match? 21:30
The opponent
*well M2K coaches spargo so marss is wrong 🤓*
But didn't Naruto and Rock Lee taught us that hard work beat raw talent? 😢
10% hard work 90% extraterrestrial demon fox. Just gotta have that dog in u
@@silversabre2537 :c
The more I hear marss talk about smash and learning it, the more I realize we've just lost any interesting top players, they're all just salty assholes, marss is the most interesting top player, and hes just a shit talker, he has no personality or interesting parts about him, the passion isn't there and neither is the creativity, there's a reason melee is more interesting, and marss shows that with how uncreative and boring he is
Yo g
am i the only one who doesnt know who or what ltg is
wait nvm i remembered
@@perrinbaggins6497sorry to hear that, u were free for a moment
What is it?
@@perrinbaggins6497 We are gonna go on and flex. This is Low. Tier. GOD!!
🌩👿🌩
Not the editing
Stop the stupid sound effects