Back in the real early 2000s, when gas took a big price hike, I freshened-up the (numbers matching-lol) 318 from my '86 D-250, and removed the '76 .040" over 360 I had in there. It pulled like a hoss with the 367 but gas costs were killing me. I used the truck as a daily and to tow my Demon and other cars to the racetrack. I had the heads rebuilt and upgraded to 1.88x1.60 valves by the machine shop, after I gasket matched the intake ports to a 340/360 gasket, so I could retain my 340 intake. The same machine shop had an abandoned, new Crane 272 "Energizer" cam with .454" lift (same as Cam Dynamics and Summit/Elgin white box cams), that they gave me free! I put a set of Melling lifters on there and replaced the rings and bearings throughout the engine block after deglazing (the engine was run on propane for most of it's life before I got it, so minimum wear!). It ran FANTASTIC, and besides a touch slower getting the weight moving, it was just as effective fully loaded as the 367, with much better fuel mileage (especially unloaded)!! I have since recommended the same cam as in your Low Dollar 'Teen and my D-250 to everyone wanting a good sounding yet functional low compression 318!! Thanks for posting and always good tech advice!! RB
Doug's headers are great and having the thicker flange means better sealing...love the clearance on the plugs on driver side.... The only down side to Doug's is the price but that's just the pain you have to deal with.... Hedman Elite header have the thicker flange but not as nice a fit as Doug's but a little less expensive but harder to install.
@@moparnut6286 These were the "hi-temp" painted ones, and I paid about 550 from Summit on sale. About 300 bucks more than the cheapies, and much better quality and fitment. Yes, ceramic are a great choice!
Wow, it sounds terrific with open headers! That needs to be a recorded as a wake-up alarm for us gearheads! It's good to see everything together, and thank you for being a teacher as well along with sharing parts numbers and potential problems. Another engine in the future? MAYBE another engine in ANOTHER vehicle? Lol. BTW, whatever became of the dump truck? I greatly enjoy your videos, and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. The dump truck has been sold to a very knowledgeable Mopar guy and he's already made some vast improvements to it!
I started drag racing and lake racing in the early 1950's finding the vast majority of parts in junkyards as we experimented and modified every junkyard part we could find. I am in my 80's and my dollar is stretched even farther. Your RUclips is the rare example of bargain based hot-rodding. Thank you for the content catering to backyard dragracers. God's blessings. My heartfelt thanks.
I noticed right away how much thicker the flange is on those headers, then also the fact that they don't go over the spark plugs on the driver's side. Now that's great. Then you add that there's no steering arm going through and I know that my next set of headers will be Doug's lol. Thanks for the info.
I like the color you used for the engine. I rebuilt a slant 6 in a 65 Dart, 170. And it was from the factory red, but I like the blue. I painted the engine bay black . I know the engine bay is supposed to be body color. I wasn't going to show it off at a car show, it was a daily driver. I thought it looked good.
Brother if it Runs.. and you give her one last glance before you go inside.. whatever to whatever,, it's Your's... I like both, Chrysler Industrial Red, and the Mopar Blue.. cheers from Huntington Beach CA 🇺🇸, daily driver 68 Dart Grandma special Slant6 to 318 swap..
Back in the my buddy and i installed a set of Appliance headers on my 70 factory 318 duster in 1 hour no lie. I'll add that the day before 4 of us struggled for a day installing the same headers on a different duster. This channel makes me long to have that car back.
The Summit 1789 cam. I bought the 6901 but didn't use it.....went with a Lunati VooDoo. It works okay, but I should've went with a truck cam. If I get a chance, I'll check my static cranking pressure, then try to maximize that with a different cam. That's sounding good.....gotta love firing up with open headers! 👍
just bring your base timing up and limit the total timing to what it wants the most. rule of thumb is anytime you go with a larger duration cam and everything else stays the same in the combo. you will have to bump up your base timing so it idles better and bring in the advance curve quicker. will be snappy, just gonna have a higher RPM range is all
@@KingJT80 , It runs pretty good with 20/22° initial, 14° mechanical, and ported vacuum advance. I could've advanced the crank gear 4° but wanted to see how it would do straight up first. I keep falling for the sound thing. It needs idled way down for that lope.
I put those D453 headers onto my 70 Duster 408. Easiest install I ever did. Only after I upgraded the torsion bars to 1.03 did I have to clearance the header tubes. Also, I took off the angled oil filter adapter so the oil filter went directly onto the block like you have. Dougs did a nice job on those headers. Edit: I too put a PTC 9.5 converter that flashed to 3500 onto my Duster. That thing moved!!!
great segment ,…. Tim continues to produce excellent content , valuable reference , and application. Doug’s are obviously better than , what I’ve accepted in the past . I’ll be ordering these pipes for my Duster . I am preparing , a 3.73 clump , to complete my selection of axle ratios ranging from 3.23 - 4.10 First time that I perform the , BorgWarner , cone type , shave & shim . It’s an experiment
Those headers are.a major improvement over the "cheapies". I remember many times cranking on those 2 inner bolts a quarter turn at a time, and also the pipe coming up and over on the driver's side. These would be the headers I get if and when I decide to put headers on again.
That 9.5 ptc will ne better for sure! I swapped out a 10" dacco for a 9.5 fti converter 3600-3800 stall worked so much better! However, my set up is 292 mopar cam in a 360 and 3.91's out back. Dart sport.
Engine not level? I did the same thing. Later I took a bare block W/ heads, installed it, got the chassis level in the shop then leveled the engine across the valve covers. To correct the out of level on the drivers side (always the culprit with the adapter mounts) I enlarged the holes and welded a washer in place on each side of the mount. I located thick grade 5 washers that fit the bolts rather snugly. What about the TV linkage? I found that the factory linkage was a problem even when using a factory HP manifold on that side. Not enough room for 2 1/2" exhaust pipe. Project looks great so far.
Check out a brand called Stage8 header bolts . people have issues with header bolts slowly backing off over a period of time . stage8 uses special locking washers with retainer C clips . used them on my volare with 318 heddmen headers
391 gears will wake it way up... 318 do and will run ... as a kid i had a 68 truck 318 i put in a 528 lift cam .shaved a lot... J ported heads 202 valves 750 Dubble Dump 410 gears oh what fun we had at the track cheap fun v gate 4 speed. banging gears and taking tears lol 70 Duster was a 340 run a 318 to blow up and would not 11.89 Seattle was elevation i think 400 or lower long ago fun true fact
they come in raw, hi-temp black, and ceramic. If you wait for a 20% off sale, you can get hi-temp black for a little over 5 bills. I've bought the raw for about 460 bucks. ceramic will set you back about 650.
Man, I gotta get me a set of Dougs, my old 318 needs rebuilt so it would be a good time to slip them in. Thanks for all the info Tim. Merry Christmas to your family.
VERY cool survivor Duster there. Too bad you live in a state where the weak-of-mind, that want wet Summertime-like roads to drive on in Winter, salt the roads where you're at. Good to see someone give the respect the 318 c.i. / "Rodney Dangerfield of Mopar v8s" it deserves!
Wish I knew about Doug Headers back in the 1980s, those 'other' headers were a pain in the... it's as if those 'more affordable' companies were anti-Mopar and intentionally designed chinese-puzzle headers, and they always had an exhaust leak.
That's such a great car! I gotta get me some of those Doug's headers. Access to the oil filter alone is worth!
Yes they are! Once a fella installs a set of Doug's on a Duster, he'll only ask himself "what took so long" ?? Thanks my friend!
Sounds great Tim, revs like a buzz saw! 👍
Thanks! The 318 seems ready to rip !!!
Sounds great! Love those Dougs!
Me too! Thanks!
Back in the real early 2000s, when gas took a big price hike, I freshened-up the (numbers matching-lol) 318 from my '86 D-250, and removed the '76 .040" over 360 I had in there. It pulled like a hoss with the 367 but gas costs were killing me. I used the truck as a daily and to tow my Demon and other cars to the racetrack. I had the heads rebuilt and upgraded to 1.88x1.60 valves by the machine shop, after I gasket matched the intake ports to a 340/360 gasket, so I could retain my 340 intake. The same machine shop had an abandoned, new Crane 272 "Energizer" cam with .454" lift (same as Cam Dynamics and Summit/Elgin white box cams), that they gave me free! I put a set of Melling lifters on there and replaced the rings and bearings throughout the engine block after deglazing (the engine was run on propane for most of it's life before I got it, so minimum wear!). It ran FANTASTIC, and besides a touch slower getting the weight moving, it was just as effective fully loaded as the 367, with much better fuel mileage (especially unloaded)!! I have since recommended the same cam as in your Low Dollar 'Teen and my D-250 to everyone wanting a good sounding yet functional low compression 318!! Thanks for posting and always good tech advice!! RB
Thanks for sharing !!!!
Doug's headers are great and having the thicker flange means better sealing...love the clearance on the plugs on driver side.... The only down side to Doug's is the price but that's just the pain you have to deal with.... Hedman Elite header have the thicker flange but not as nice a fit as Doug's but a little less expensive but harder to install.
Right on! Paying the extra couple hundred hurts the wallet once, but your hands and patience will thank you for the life of the headers!!
@@318willrunthere almost a grand coated with ceramic might as well go all the way!
@@moparnut6286 These were the "hi-temp" painted ones, and I paid about 550 from Summit on sale. About 300 bucks more than the cheapies, and much better quality and fitment. Yes, ceramic are a great choice!
Wow, it sounds terrific with open headers! That needs to be a recorded as a wake-up alarm for us gearheads! It's good to see everything together, and thank you for being a teacher as well along with sharing parts numbers and potential problems. Another engine in the future? MAYBE another engine in ANOTHER vehicle? Lol. BTW, whatever became of the dump truck? I greatly enjoy your videos, and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. The dump truck has been sold to a very knowledgeable Mopar guy and he's already made some vast improvements to it!
I started drag racing and lake racing in the early 1950's finding the vast majority of parts in junkyards as we experimented and modified every junkyard part we could find. I am in my 80's and my dollar is stretched even farther. Your RUclips is the rare example of bargain based hot-rodding. Thank you for the content catering to backyard dragracers. God's blessings. My heartfelt thanks.
I sincerely appreciate it, thank you!
I noticed right away how much thicker the flange is on those headers, then also the fact that they don't go over the spark plugs on the driver's side. Now that's great. Then you add that there's no steering arm going through and I know that my next set of headers will be Doug's lol. Thanks for the info.
Thanks!
I like the color you used for the engine. I rebuilt a slant 6 in a 65 Dart, 170. And it was from the factory red, but I like the blue. I painted the engine bay black . I know the engine bay is supposed to be body color. I wasn't going to show it off at a car show, it was a daily driver. I thought it looked good.
Thanks! Yep, your car so be sure to do it your way!!!
Brother if it Runs.. and you give her one last glance before you go inside.. whatever to whatever,, it's Your's...
I like both, Chrysler Industrial Red, and the Mopar Blue.. cheers from Huntington Beach CA 🇺🇸, daily driver 68 Dart Grandma special Slant6 to 318 swap..
Those headers are really nice! Thanks for sharing.
Thank You!
Back in the my buddy and i installed a set of Appliance headers on my 70 factory 318 duster in 1 hour no lie. I'll add that the day before 4 of us struggled for a day installing the same headers on a different duster. This channel makes me long to have that car back.
I will agree sounds Great
Thanks!
Vicious sound . Looking great so far..
Thanks!
Those Doug's headers are awesome!👍 Sounds great!👍
Thank You !!!
The Summit 1789 cam.
I bought the 6901 but didn't use it.....went with a Lunati VooDoo.
It works okay, but I should've went with a truck cam. If I get a chance, I'll check my static cranking pressure, then try to maximize that with a different cam.
That's sounding good.....gotta love firing up with open headers! 👍
Thanks!
just bring your base timing up and limit the total timing to what it wants the most. rule of thumb is anytime you go with a larger duration cam and everything else stays the same in the combo. you will have to bump up your base timing so it idles better and bring in the advance curve quicker. will be snappy, just gonna have a higher RPM range is all
@@KingJT80 , It runs pretty good with 20/22° initial, 14° mechanical, and ported vacuum advance.
I could've advanced the crank gear 4° but wanted to see how it would do straight up first.
I keep falling for the sound thing. It needs idled way down for that lope.
@@PTucker0864 hey if it's just a cruiser then the sound is ok
Great header install! I was looking into buying Doug's headers for my 440, the way yours fit , I think I'm sold!
Thanks! Good luck on your project!
Love the Doug’s! Great work as always!
Thanks a bunch!
I put those D453 headers onto my 70 Duster 408. Easiest install I ever did. Only after I upgraded the torsion bars to 1.03 did I have to clearance the header tubes. Also, I took off the angled oil filter adapter so the oil filter went directly onto the block like you have. Dougs did a nice job on those headers. Edit: I too put a PTC 9.5 converter that flashed to 3500 onto my Duster. That thing moved!!!
Thanks for posting your experience! I'm sure many will read it and your review of the Dougs will be considered!
great segment ,….
Tim continues to produce excellent content , valuable reference , and application.
Doug’s are obviously better than , what I’ve accepted in the past .
I’ll be ordering these pipes for my Duster .
I am preparing , a 3.73 clump , to complete my selection of axle ratios ranging from 3.23 - 4.10
First time that I perform the , BorgWarner , cone type , shave & shim .
It’s an experiment
Thank you!
What a great combo, going to be another over achiever I think. Making progress out side in december... wow! good job Tim.
Thanks 👍
What size carb?
Those headers are.a major improvement over the "cheapies". I remember many times cranking on those 2 inner bolts a quarter turn at a time, and also the pipe coming up and over on the driver's side. These would be the headers I get if and when I decide to put headers on again.
100% agree !
When i sold for Classic Industries,, Not a single complaint about these,, someday I'll do this,,
Merry Christmas and God bless...
Thanks! Merry Christmas and God Bless your way also !!
sounds mean Tim, a man has to like an old duster cant beat them. headers look great what muffles are you going to run Tim ?
Thank you! The car has a ... dynomax maybe??? LOL I have too many cars with too many turbo mufflers 😄
That thing is pretty snappy once you get the gears done it should move pretty well
Thanks, we're hoping !!
Goin' great so far, lookin' forward to seeing it on the track.
You and me both!
That 9.5 ptc will ne better for sure! I swapped out a 10" dacco for a 9.5 fti converter 3600-3800 stall worked so much better! However, my set up is 292 mopar cam in a 360 and 3.91's out back. Dart sport.
It should help!!
Engine not level? I did the same thing. Later I took a bare block W/ heads, installed it, got the chassis level in the shop then leveled the engine across the valve covers. To correct the out of level on the drivers side (always the culprit with the adapter mounts) I enlarged the holes and welded a washer in place on each side of the mount. I located thick grade 5 washers that fit the bolts rather snugly. What about the TV linkage? I found that the factory linkage was a problem even when using a factory HP manifold on that side. Not enough room for 2 1/2" exhaust pipe. Project looks great so far.
Thanks! If I ever go to bigger torsion bars, I'll have to do the same thing!
Nick would love these header as he hates then usually . There great good info for all . MOPAR for life 👍🏻💯%🇦🇺⛽️.
Thanks !!!!!
Check out a brand called Stage8 header bolts . people have issues with header bolts slowly backing off over a period of time . stage8 uses special locking washers with retainer C clips . used them on my volare with 318 heddmen headers
Thanks for the tip !!!
A barking 318 is a beautjful sound!
👍 Hopefully it performs when the track opens in the Spring!
They sure do look like nice headers, thanks for the video. Is the dual quad setup for sale?
Thanks! I have a friend that I'm pretty sure is buying it.
Excellent throttle response.
Thanks!
It sounds good. Those are much nicer than the headers I had on my duster.
Thank you!
Here to support
👍 I finally figured out who @offshore50 was.... Mopar Al !!
Gotta love the 318 LA small block Mopar engine it’s cheap and reliable and it can get the job done
I agree!
391 gears will wake it way up... 318 do and will run ... as a kid i had a 68 truck 318 i put in a 528 lift cam .shaved a lot... J ported heads 202 valves 750 Dubble Dump 410 gears oh what fun we had at the track cheap fun v gate 4 speed. banging gears and taking tears lol 70 Duster was a 340 run a 318 to blow up and would not 11.89 Seattle was elevation i think 400 or lower long ago fun true fact
awesome!
It smooths out nicely and sounds like a 340 eh
What cam do you have in your blue duster, I sounds good, thanks
Both Duster's are blue... lol. The Duster in this video has a Summit .455 lift/272 advertised duration cam.
Liken on thoses Doug's thanks for showing
Thanks 👍
The 318 sounds great!
Thanks!
What mini starter should I use on my 69 340 swinger 4 speed, thanks
I'd just get one for a 1994 Dodge Dakota
Sounds very nice.
Thanks!
Dougs d453 also fit great on 80s M body's F body's and J body's manufactures seam to completely ignore the 80s stuff and what will fit.
Glad you brought that up. Yes, they get ignored
Nice n rowdy! Love it!
THanks!!!
I didnt hear the cost of those. Whats the going rate for that set? My 70 could use a set of those.
they come in raw, hi-temp black, and ceramic. If you wait for a 20% off sale, you can get hi-temp black for a little over 5 bills. I've bought the raw for about 460 bucks. ceramic will set you back about 650.
@@318willrun That's not so bad. I'm running the old Heddmann set right now on my 340 but have been aspiring to upgrade all along.
Man, I gotta get me a set of Dougs, my old 318 needs rebuilt so it would be a good time to slip them in. Thanks for all the info Tim. Merry Christmas to your family.
I think with gears you will easily be in the 13's for your quarter mile! 👍
We hope!!!
dang that sounds good.
Thanks!
That does not sound like a stoke engine even with those headers but I like it
Thanks!, Internally, only the cam size has been slightly increased!
SWEET!
Getting excited
Yep, it's going to be fun!
No Name Nationals 2024 , Low Dollar 318 vs High Dollar 300? 😂
Don't count it out !!!!
Sounds nasty !!! It wants out !! 👍
You Betcha !! Thanks!
VERY cool survivor Duster there.
Too bad you live in a state where the weak-of-mind, that want wet Summertime-like roads to drive on in Winter, salt the roads where you're at. Good to see someone give the respect the 318 c.i. / "Rodney Dangerfield of Mopar v8s" it deserves!
Thanks! Yeah, the salt shakers are certainly at work during this time of year up here
Thanks for helping on the hoping part for my 69 notchback!
Best to you on your project!
👍🏻
👍👍
Wish I knew about Doug Headers back in the 1980s, those 'other' headers were a pain in the... it's as if those 'more affordable' companies were anti-Mopar and intentionally designed chinese-puzzle headers, and they always had an exhaust leak.
Wreck our lives by design.... Ha!!! I like that!