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  • Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
  • Today i visited Lloyds Banking Group in Newport where I met Security and the Police!
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Комментарии • 481

  • @John-ik1os
    @John-ik1os Месяц назад +49

    Police lady says she is not a fan of being recorded 😂 , but happy for herself to record an innocent member of the public.

    • @user-is5sn7ed5j
      @user-is5sn7ed5j Месяц назад +2

      To be fair, she didn't make a fuss about being recorded. And she didn't say how she felt about recording the public. She may not be a fan of that either. She didn't record the auditor.

  • @JOHNNY-zx1lc
    @JOHNNY-zx1lc Месяц назад +48

    Rookie mistake letting them take a picture of your operator ID. you're in the system now.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +8

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @zog97xy
      @zog97xy Месяц назад +7

      @@PureAudits Get another id!

    • @whome1615
      @whome1615 29 дней назад +4

      I thought I had found an auditor that stood up for his rights. Then you. gave them your op id. I hope you do not do this again - you just need to show a bit of it to prove you have one. Hopefully you will learn from this and I can become a subscriber. Overall I do like your style!

    • @garethwood3474
      @garethwood3474 27 дней назад +4

      Like your relaxed style PA shame you gave your op id expect you can get another one easy enough though. Keep up the good work. But please stay anonymous they have no more right to ID you than I do

    • @roy9816
      @roy9816 20 дней назад +3

      Can't believe you gave them I'd. 🤔

  • @Mrchipsv2
    @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад +125

    Why did you show the OP ID straight away should of waited for her to produce the correct legislation to ask for it.
    Never tell them you have been flying it and that it has a camera therefore they then have no reasonable suspicion under schedule 9 to have the OP ID

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +17

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @Crashawsome
      @Crashawsome Месяц назад +8

      @@PureAudits Learn the basics, boomer

    • @AuldScot1888
      @AuldScot1888 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@PureAudits came to ask the same question. I'd have told the patronising wee madam eff all.

    • @Nellyontheland
      @Nellyontheland Месяц назад

      ​@@AuldScot1888 Yup. I saw straight through her attitude.
      She belongs in the kitchen.

    • @larasoutdooradventures5685
      @larasoutdooradventures5685 Месяц назад +11

      Yes, tell them nothing!!

  • @grahamh6988
    @grahamh6988 Месяц назад +40

    Blue lights....for a photographer!

    • @MikeEves
      @MikeEves Месяц назад +5

      Why would police be interested in criminals, far easier to deal with non-crimes (and still get paid).

    • @cliffordbuttle4529
      @cliffordbuttle4529 Месяц назад

      Ya he was pointing the camera at them 😮😮😮😮😮😮

    • @TheDisruptiveYouTuber
      @TheDisruptiveYouTuber Месяц назад

      Preventing and detecting crime is expensive. Chaper and easier to support the requests of private companies and mediating civil disputes.

    • @Tazz-Media
      @Tazz-Media Месяц назад

      Adrenaline junkies

  • @bikereddie
    @bikereddie Месяц назад +78

    You refused to give your name, yet made a big mistake by giving your operator ID. Now you are in the system permanently, and they have your name and address etc you registered your drone to. They have no valid reason to request your operator ID.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +9

      Thanks for letting me know. Although operator ID does not relate to me but Lesson learnt. PA

    • @davidharwood9552
      @davidharwood9552 Месяц назад

      We all know that. Sometimes it’s best to be on the system for your own good 😊

    • @petertaylor9384
      @petertaylor9384 Месяц назад +2

      I think that used to be true, but legislation has only very recently been changed, if you drone has a camera you are required by law to provide your operator ID. Of course, they can't inspect your drone too see if it has a camera but if they have witnesses on site that say they know it has a camera Youd be done for.

    • @petercornish9903
      @petercornish9903 Месяц назад +3

      @@petertaylor9384 I would love to know what that law is, do you know?

    • @anthonyo.6084
      @anthonyo.6084 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@petertaylor9384 what law's that officer 9384 ?.

  • @mrteroo8953
    @mrteroo8953 Месяц назад +32

    You gave them your operator ID when you weren't obliged to = FAIL❌

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for letting me know. I had been flying so thought that I had to show it if requested. I’ll check. PA

    • @scottmarwild7711
      @scottmarwild7711 Месяц назад +1

      Not correct!

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      ​@@scottmarwild7711so schedule 9 means nothing then

  • @robinwbarrett
    @robinwbarrett Месяц назад +29

    How strange, Police can respond double crewed when a corporate entity complains. Yet you try report an actual crime and nobody is available

    • @MikeEves
      @MikeEves Месяц назад +8

      They prefer to go after 'awkward people'. Complete and utter cowards

  • @ChrisJones-bp7ij
    @ChrisJones-bp7ij Месяц назад +37

    I see the tyrant pigs were NOT interested in your GDPR complaint....

    • @nicotoscani1707
      @nicotoscani1707 Месяц назад +2

      i noticed that

    • @stewartgibbens1445
      @stewartgibbens1445 19 дней назад

      Probably as GDPR breaches are dealt with by the ICO (Information Commissioners Office) not the police

  • @BG-ef8sk
    @BG-ef8sk Месяц назад +37

    No crime= no operator ID

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад +1

      That's not how it works

    • @BG-ef8sk
      @BG-ef8sk Месяц назад +4

      @@Mrchipsv2 you have to be suspected of committing an offence and as he wasn’t flying when they turned up so they aren’t entitled to anything

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад +1

      @@BG-ef8sk wrong it's absolutley nothing to do with criminal offence

    • @BG-ef8sk
      @BG-ef8sk Месяц назад +1

      @@Mrchipsv2 enlighten me then

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад +1

      @@BG-ef8sk schedule 9 tells you all you need to know, but basically, if they reasonably suspect that a drone is or has been flown and reasonably suspect it needs a OP ID then using schedule 8 they can ground the drone and under schedule 9 they can require the OP ID..
      If you tell them your going to or have flown it and also tell them it has a camera then that's all the info they need to gain the OP ID. Best of saying nothing if they have not seen the drone in the air or even seen the drone itself.

  • @johnc9977
    @johnc9977 Месяц назад +29

    No legal requirement to show it and from that they will now add you to police national computer

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      ​@Legislationloverauditors love to think they are correct though when wrong, but yeah schedule 9 is pretty clear, but alot of people read section 1 not section 2, they then quote section 1 which does not apply to under 250g drones that are not toys.

  • @Hec901
    @Hec901 Месяц назад +30

    Lol gave operator ID for no reason

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

  • @54g
    @54g Месяц назад +47

    I agree with others. Should not give up operator ID unless legally required. The idea is to exercise your rights. That includes NOT giving up ANY details unless legally required to do so. PC reports "Refusing" to give details. When in fact you have "Declined". Saying "Refused" is Passive Aggressive behaviour. When they ask for your details they should say" You are not required to give me your details but are you prepared to tell me who you are?"

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +4

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @nicotoscani1707
      @nicotoscani1707 Месяц назад

      ​@@PureAuditsrookie mistake PA... they will have put your name down on the suspected terrorist list on their system now

    • @54g
      @54g Месяц назад +2

      @@PureAudits I believe it is important that you adopt your own style in order to appeal to a wider audience. I think most auditors would do well to watch how @focuspocus3690 deals with the police. Keep up the great work PA 👍

  • @user-fh3tf1uu6o
    @user-fh3tf1uu6o Месяц назад +22

    Never give them you’re ID no law was broken never give them anything

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад +2

      You don't have to break the law for them to get the OP ID 🤷🏻‍♂️ they have to have reasonable suspicion that it is being flown or has been flown and it requires the operator ID ie has a camera..

    • @scottjohnston999
      @scottjohnston999 Месяц назад

      @MrChipsv2 you have to show them there is an operator id on the drone, you don't have to give them the number unless they suspect you of a crime

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      @@scottjohnston999 wrong

  • @peterwentworth9181
    @peterwentworth9181 Месяц назад +13

    I hope they got the security guards details. He was the only one breaking any laws.

  • @ChrisJones-bp7ij
    @ChrisJones-bp7ij Месяц назад +17

    Breach of the peace:- Regina versus Howell 1982 states a breach of the peace occurs when someone has the fear of being harmed. To give someone the fear of being harmed you have to use threatening and or abusive language or hold a threatening and or abusive sign. (The wording is VERY IMPORTANT when it comes to an offence) so not everything can be classed a breach of the peace. You HAVE to use threatening and or abusive language. So for instance a dislike of something or hurt feelings is NOT a breach of the peace. Also the tyrant pigs are not the arbitrators of what a breach of the peace is. The law is. Regina versus Howell also goes on to say once a breach of the peace has passed there is NO breach of the peace. IT'S PASSED. The police have no powers to demand a name and address and NO powers to detain. I solicitor could easily argue that as soon as the tyrant pigs turned up any possible beach of the peace has passed. You had no legal or lawful obligation to give up your drone I.d number. Learn the law and you will outsmart them every time.

  • @davidpickard9393
    @davidpickard9393 Месяц назад +14

    Police priorities seem to be misplaced.The man in the suit said he knows what you are doing but still tries to enforce non laws and rules.

  • @hambo8851
    @hambo8851 Месяц назад +13

    When the guy in the suit came out, the police were totally wrong IMO. The guy specified about girls 18 to 19 being on site and about the boundary going upwards. The police should have stepped in at that point and explained that their boundary doesn't go up but more imortantly, gain control on the guy in the suit specifying about girls - someone's sex should be irrelevant and by him saying that and focussing on that only point, he's making a loose accusation IMO that you are there to film young girls. Legally, I would think being 18 and 19 that they are adults and thus women, not girls. That guy should have a serious talking to by his management team. Deleting a picture on a phone does not usually delete it fully as it places it in the 'bin' - I would have got the guy who took the photo to prove that the image had been deleted from the bin. The police were polite, but totally wrong in not explaining the law to the guy in the suit.

    • @mattk04
      @mattk04 Месяц назад

      How many of those 18/19 year old "girls" put themselves all over tictoc and the other silly look-at-me sites.

  • @moby1388
    @moby1388 Месяц назад +8

    Wow! She took a picture of your operator ID. I couldn't bear to watch it anymore.

  • @micktopraf2872
    @micktopraf2872 Месяц назад +10

    So she was running on blue lights for some one on the suspicion off being awkward 😂😂

  • @cwshtygriff13
    @cwshtygriff13 Месяц назад +16

    Only down the road from me. Shameful behaviour from the police 😔🤦‍♂️

  • @user-fc2sc1sk8o
    @user-fc2sc1sk8o Месяц назад +13

    Do not let them take pictures or write down the ID … you only have to show them..
    those officers were terrible absolutely disgraceful behaviour… surreptitiously obtaining your ID …
    You are carrying out a legal activity. You can’t breach the peace by definition…
    The only offence was committed by the persons calling the police. and them illegally obtaining you id …
    The security guard was an idiot and vulgar to bring up the nonsense about girls…
    Next time you are in this situation… remind the police to stand on their oaths .. section five criminal law act 1967. It’s an offence to waste the police employment.. which is what they did.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

  • @freemindthinkerezrapound5071
    @freemindthinkerezrapound5071 Месяц назад +9

    The guy at 11.00 is concerned about girls 18 and 19 years old who can have sex and alcohol and vote get married but a photo might somehow effect them, what a plonker

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 Месяц назад

      Who knows what some sick deviant like you might do with it?😒

  • @dennisthemenace1386
    @dennisthemenace1386 Месяц назад +8

    You probably didn't need to give them your operator ID. I believe they can only request if they have seen you fly it and able to quote what law you are required to . Now they have your details on record on some secret police or government database.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

  • @kennyjones3679
    @kennyjones3679 Месяц назад +10

    They had no right to see your Operator ID.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      No but I did say I had been recording from it, which in turn gives police the powers under schedule 9 to take down the operator ID. Early days and Big Lesson learnt and thanks for your advice. 👍 PA

  • @wanderingwilcoxs
    @wanderingwilcoxs Месяц назад +14

    Soon as you showed then ID I switched off

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Just an update - Three tests must be reached in order for a Police Officer to inspect (and record) a Drone Operator ID under Schedule 9 of the ANO 2016A.
      SCHEDULE 9
      Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable-
      (a)has reasonable grounds for believing that-
      (i)a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, (the officers were aware before they arrived that I had been flying my drone and recording with it)
      AND
      (ii)P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight, AND
      (b)has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant competency requirement is or was applicable (this relates to 250g Drones and above OR Under 250g Drones if they can record).
      In my case, the officers asked me if I had been recording and I said Yes.
      This then required me if asked to allow the officers to inspect (and record) my Operator ID.
      My lesson learnt was not to be so forthright with the Business owners! Thanks very much for your support and advice. 👍 PA

  • @GampyBamblor
    @GampyBamblor Месяц назад +31

    She acts nervous and doesnt like being filmed.....the hippocrit

  • @peterparson6151
    @peterparson6151 Месяц назад +29

    What a patronising police officer, well done for remaining patient and polite.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your support 👍 PA

  • @adrianbrowne7874
    @adrianbrowne7874 Месяц назад +6

    No disturbance of the peace! And absolutely nothing for anyone to have been alarmed about, as we can see!!😊

    • @adrianbrowne7874
      @adrianbrowne7874 Месяц назад

      Yes no question! And thankyou!!

    • @annanotheran2972
      @annanotheran2972 Месяц назад

      Suggesting that a person with a camera peaceful exercising their rights in a public might be a breach of the peace if someone objects to their presence is nonsense, especially as they allow hate marches through London every week and don't suggest that those persons might be arrested if someone objects to their presence.

  • @rcexteriorcleaningservices6908
    @rcexteriorcleaningservices6908 Месяц назад +13

    Not quite sure why you immediately id'd yourself.....

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

  • @retroclickmedia4422
    @retroclickmedia4422 Месяц назад +22

    That copper is as thick as mince, you can not arrest for breach of the peace retrospectively, if she does arrest for it it must be at the time it is happening and once over she has to de arrest.
    This is basic common law, why are we forced to pay the wages and pensions of kids who do not understand it?

    • @nicotoscani1707
      @nicotoscani1707 Месяц назад

      they want us to think we're forced to, but council tax is unlawful .,.,. because they can't produce a liability order as one doesn't exist because there's no contract.. no contract, no debt

    • @TheGrimReaper1
      @TheGrimReaper1 Месяц назад +1

      Aye, and not only that after the case of “Foulkes v Merseyside police” the breach must,i repeat must be both “real and Imminent” . I would have thought that any possible breach would be by others.

    • @retroclickmedia4422
      @retroclickmedia4422 Месяц назад +1

      @@TheGrimReaper1 Quite, but the plod maybe trying to lift Marti just in case they hit him??

    • @501sqn3
      @501sqn3 Месяц назад

      Complete and utter bollocks!!. If your going to quote statute law, get some training on it first !🤦

    • @nicotoscani1707
      @nicotoscani1707 Месяц назад

      @@501sqn3you're*

  • @8888Dino8888
    @8888Dino8888 Месяц назад +7

    Bad move showing id

  • @PINACI
    @PINACI Месяц назад +6

    If you're going to 'educate' people then learn the law and your rights about what you are doing first. You didn't have to provide them with your drone OP ID unless they had reasonable ground to suspect an offence ( schedule 8 ) or that you had or were flying it and it required a registration ( schedule 9 )

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

    • @PINACI
      @PINACI Месяц назад +1

      @@PureAudits I've seen some of Geeksvana's videos before and don't think he's always 100% correct in how he interprets the legislation. He also likes to interview actual drone police who would love for everyone to just comply with anything they said rather than follow the actual letter of the law. Personally I'll go by what the legislation says rather than what the police say it is because we all know how they like to twist the law to suit themselves and leave important bits out.

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      To be fair he did admit to flying and recording but that was after she asked for the OP ID.
      Also as I read schedule 9 section 2 i actually can't see anything that says to show the OP ID, it only mentions the ID of the person

    • @PINACI
      @PINACI Месяц назад

      @@Mrchipsv2 Read on to section 8....(1)A constable may require a person in possession of an unmanned aircraft to allow the constable to inspect it if the constable considers that the inspection would assist the constable in deciding whether a power conferred by any of paragraphs 1 to 7 is exercisable.

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      @@PINACI thankyou 👍🏻 you should watch auditing Lancashire video, he had tape holding his camera on, a broken propella, and NO operators ID on his drone, and was still going to fly it, but cop used schedule 8 to check it over. *EDIT * just looked and you did alreasy see it

  • @doveronefoxtrot4417
    @doveronefoxtrot4417 Месяц назад +4

    I wouldn't have given them your full operator ID mate, why do that ?

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

  • @nomore6939
    @nomore6939 Месяц назад +3

    They should bring back fitness tests for the Plods, Sick and tired of seeing overweight cops .. shows a lack of self respect

  • @paulbratley9636
    @paulbratley9636 Месяц назад +4

    Typical Police instead of telling the complainants its legal they harass you

  • @pachy444
    @pachy444 Месяц назад +4

    Notice the Police talk to the business owners like they are victims

  • @user-ev4zh7jb3g
    @user-ev4zh7jb3g Месяц назад +5

    Why did you let them take the ID on the Drone?? You can show them but they can't take it down.. that is effectively giving them your ID when you haven't broken the law

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

  • @rongt859
    @rongt859 Месяц назад +9

    Busy day , whats a slow day look like ?

  • @philwoollin6470
    @philwoollin6470 Месяц назад +5

    DONT GIVE EM INFO FELLA YOU DO NOT HAVE TO

  • @GavTatu
    @GavTatu Месяц назад +4

    18 19 year old girls are adults... what's the issue ?

  • @Theratman62
    @Theratman62 Месяц назад +3

    They didn't even inform you if they were recording you....

  • @thedyslexicauditor
    @thedyslexicauditor Месяц назад +1

    Great video thank you 👍

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks. PA

  • @John-ik1os
    @John-ik1os Месяц назад +3

    So does deleting the picture still mean the company have still broken GDPR rules? How do we know that the company doesn’t immediately recover the file. Photo probably still in the security guys recently deleted file. Did the WPC check?

  • @clivebevan5296
    @clivebevan5296 Месяц назад +4

    18/19 year old girls don't want to be filmed what makes them😊. Special?

  • @adiohead
    @adiohead Месяц назад +2

    7:23 _"Not a big fan of being recorded."_ Said the constable with a camera and asking for details which will be recorded on their system.

  • @woods19364
    @woods19364 Месяц назад +3

    Did that PC just threaten you? I believe she did for a legal activity, they now have all of your details, beware fella.

  • @dennisthemenace1386
    @dennisthemenace1386 Месяц назад +3

    Almost all the auditors have been caught out. The only one that I believe who has never given out his details is BP Visits.

    • @peterhemmings2929
      @peterhemmings2929 Месяц назад +1

      But he messed up because BP Visits is his real name

    • @dennisthemenace1386
      @dennisthemenace1386 Месяц назад

      @@peterhemmings2929 Bill Payer - If you look at some of his earlier videos you can see his face in a glass reflection.

  • @stuart2464
    @stuart2464 Месяц назад +1

    Top man love your vids getting better all the time

  • @pebble1955
    @pebble1955 Месяц назад +2

    My thoughts were why you allowed her to document the Operator ID, when you didn't need too . Let them work for it at the very least

  • @sojourn6697
    @sojourn6697 Месяц назад +2

    To all you commenters criticising Pure Audits for giving up his operator ID: since when have you become so bloody perfect that you haven’t made a mistake?
    To me he is the rising star of this RUclips genre. He stands out with his calm non combative approach compared the some of the better known auditors. Once he becomes Au Fait with the law around his activities he will be one to beat.

  • @doms_cinema
    @doms_cinema Месяц назад +1

    Great video 👍 ❤

  • @GampyBamblor
    @GampyBamblor Месяц назад +3

    Dont need to get your details they have them all on drone id now.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Just an update - Three tests must be reached in order for a Police Officer to inspect (and record) a Drone Operator ID under Schedule 9 of the ANO 2016A.
      SCHEDULE 9
      Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable-
      (a)has reasonable grounds for believing that-
      (i)a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, (the officers were aware before they arrived that I had been flying my drone and recording with it)
      AND
      (ii)P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight, AND
      (b)has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant competency requirement is or was applicable (this relates to 250g Drones and above OR Under 250g Drones if they can record).
      In my case, the officers asked me if I had been recording and I said Yes.
      This then required me if asked to allow the officers to inspect (and record) my Operator ID.
      My lesson learnt was not to be so forthright with the Business owners! Thanks very much for your support and advice. 👍 PA

  • @NarnianRailway
    @NarnianRailway Месяц назад +1

    Nice video and Lloyds does receive special consideration from local government.
    Originally constructed early 90s for Trustee Savings Bank which merged with Lloyds Bank in 1995. 1998 added a 2 storey rear extension in addition to other modifications and portakabin kitchen. 2005 included interior refurbishments, main entrance and on site restaurant changes and car park expansion. 2007 the Bank directed to remove the temporary portakabin kitchen/restaurant by 2009 and restore the grounds (rather long temporary, special privileges). Then in 2009 Lloyds granted permission to retain the portakabin structures an additional five years and included statement "The buildings are environmentally sustainable since they were built some 10 years ago and remain in good condition despite inclement weather & global warming."
    Location is white structure on the rear at 17:52 right side and did not see any further planning allowing the extension to remain beyond 2014 (may be in some other application perhaps).

  • @vaughnwilliams1208
    @vaughnwilliams1208 Месяц назад +3

    Big mistake showing them the operator ID. Please don't do that again. But we are still Your fans

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for your advice and support as well. 👍 PA

  • @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway
    @dinmorejunctionmodelrailway Месяц назад +2

    Contact. Higgs Newton Kenyon Solicitors. Liverpool.
    No win. No fee. Mita breach of GDPR

  • @philmingnotallowed
    @philmingnotallowed Месяц назад +3

    Unless the cops have a direct line to the CAA, the Operator ID on its own is useless unless it is accompanied by the Name of the registered Operator ... and they can (if they have reasonable suspicion based on some kind of facts / evidence) require the identity the Operator and the Pilot (if different) ... BUT ... like someone else said, it's not your job to admit to anything and especially not wise to volunteer any information that they can use (and you never know what that might be) to convict you. If they don't know the legislation, let them consult with someone who does, OR drop themselves in the poop for a potentially nice little payout if they're the type who deserves it. Other than that, keep up the good work edumacating the UK Ignoramuses on what FREEDOM (albeit in a small but nonetheless significant way) looks like 😉👍
    **********
    *Air Traffic Management and Unmanned Aircraft Act 2021*
    *SCHEDULE 9*
    *Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016*
    *Commencement Information*
    1 _Sch. 9 in force at 29.4.2021 for specified purposes and 29.6.2021 for all other purposes, see s. 21(1)(a)(2)_
    *Provision by remote pilots of information about UAS operators*
    2 (1) A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable -
    (a) has reasonable grounds for believing that -
    (i) a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, and
    (ii) P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft, and
    (b) has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant registration requirement is or was applicable as respects the UAS operator for the unmanned aircraft and the flight.
    (2) The constable may require P to provide such information as the constable considers reasonable as to the identity of -
    (a) the person or persons who are or were the UAS operator for the flight, or
    (b) the person or persons who made the unmanned aircraft available for use by P.
    (3) In this paragraph “relevant registration requirement” means a requirement imposed by, or referred to in, any of the following provisions of the ANO 2016 -
    (a) article 265A(5)(a) (open category: registration of UAS operator);
    (b) article 265A(5)(b) (open category: display of UAS operator's registration number);
    (c) article 265A(6)(a) (specific category: registration of UAS operator);
    (d) article 265A(6)(b) (specific category: display of UAS operator's registration number);
    (e) article 265A(7)(a) (specific category: registration of UAS operator);
    (f) article 265A(7)(b) (specific category: display of UAS operator's registration number);
    (g) article 265A(9)(a) (specific category: registration of UAS operator);
    (h) article 265A(9)(b) (specific category: display of UAS operator's registration number);
    (i) article 265E(1)(a) (registration of tethered small unmanned aircraft of 250g or more);
    (j) article 265E(1)(b) (display of registration number of tethered small unmanned aircraft of 250g or more).
    (4) P is guilty of an offence if -
    (a) P fails to comply with a requirement imposed by a constable under this paragraph to provide, as respects a flight by an unmanned aircraft, information as to the identity of a person,
    (b) P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight,
    (c) the relevant registration requirement which the constable had reasonable grounds for suspecting is or was applicable as respects the UAS operator for the unmanned aircraft and the flight is or was so applicable, and
    (d) at the time when the constable imposed the requirement, P could have provided information of the kind which the constable required P to provide.
    (5) A person who is guilty of an offence under this paragraph is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 2 on the standard scale.
    (6) Paragraph 10 includes a defence to the offence under this paragraph.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for your advice and support PA

  • @Ohjeffrey79
    @Ohjeffrey79 Месяц назад +2

    Why give the operator ID??

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      They knew I had been flying but Lesson learnt. PA

  • @barryrussell8431
    @barryrussell8431 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks @pureaudits for the content.
    Very calm, polite and considerate, please don't change.
    Your ongoing mission to educate people around the photography/drone law is admirable.
    Keep up the great work.
    🎯

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      I appreciate that. Thank you 👍 PA

    • @sojourn6697
      @sojourn6697 Месяц назад +1

      I really like his calm no drama approach. All the combatative drama comes from those who have a perception he is breaking the law and that includes the stupid police.

  • @johndavis8546
    @johndavis8546 Месяц назад +6

    The police are not entitled to the operators ID on your drone if you haven't broken the law

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @anthonyo.6084
      @anthonyo.6084 Месяц назад

      ​@@PureAudits you should know the law.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Just an update - Three tests must be reached in order for a Police Officer to inspect (and record) a Drone Operator ID under Schedule 9 of the ANO 2016A.
      SCHEDULE 9
      Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable-
      (a)has reasonable grounds for believing that-
      (i)a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, (the officers were aware before they arrived that I had been flying my drone and recording with it)
      AND
      (ii)P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight, AND
      (b)has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant competency requirement is or was applicable (this relates to 250g Drones and above OR Under 250g Drones if they can record).
      In my case, the officers asked me if I had been recording and I said Yes.
      This then required me if asked to allow the officers to inspect (and record) my Operator ID.
      My lesson learnt was not to be so forthright with the Business owners! Thanks very much for your support and advice. 👍 PA

  • @pachy444
    @pachy444 Месяц назад +2

    That says it all doesn't it.... He thinks he votes for different people than anyone who does things that annoy him.

  • @0110Cryptic
    @0110Cryptic Месяц назад +3

    It's funny how that bloke wants to ask you not to film young girls on a bloke to bloke basis. but yet calls the police on you for a lawful activity. Why did he not come and talk on a bloke to bloke basis before. Instead he waits until the police arrive then comes over acting all friendly trying to clutch at straws because he knows the police can't stop you. It just shows the kind of mind he has when he starts going down the route of filming young girls🤔

  • @BG-ef8sk
    @BG-ef8sk Месяц назад +2

    My job is to educate people 😂😂😂 but I’ll give my operator id when not required to

  • @thedroneguy123
    @thedroneguy123 Месяц назад +3

    They have no right to photograph the operator I’d if you’re e not committing a crime

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      Nothing to do with committing a crime, they can take down the ID under schedule 9

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Just an update - Three tests must be reached in order for a Police Officer to inspect (and record) a Drone Operator ID under Schedule 9 of the ANO 2016A.
      SCHEDULE 9
      Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable-
      (a)has reasonable grounds for believing that-
      (i)a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, (the officers were aware before they arrived that I had been flying my drone and recording with it)
      AND
      (ii)P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight, AND
      (b)has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant competency requirement is or was applicable (this relates to 250g Drones and above OR Under 250g Drones if they can record).
      In my case, the officers asked me if I had been recording and I said Yes.
      This then required me if asked to allow the officers to inspect (and record) my Operator ID.
      My lesson learnt was not to be so forthright with the Business owners! Thanks very much for your support and advice. 👍 PA

  • @countroyhifi8730
    @countroyhifi8730 Месяц назад +1

    Can the person registering the drone be different from the drone operator?

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

  • @StraightOuttaUrbex
    @StraightOuttaUrbex Месяц назад +1

    Blue lights for that really muppets

  • @johnstevenson7462
    @johnstevenson7462 Месяц назад +4

    What's the point of showing your id number which they get your name in seconds and then refusing to give your name which you basically just handed them ??????????
    i really dont get this auditor or channel it just seems pointless , i get the point of dj , pj ,the great ab and the rest and the point they are proving ,but i just don't get or understand what the point is here , maybe im missing something ?

    • @philipjones9458
      @philipjones9458 Месяц назад +1

      He's a beginner.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

    • @johnstevenson7462
      @johnstevenson7462 Месяц назад +2

      @@PureAudits fair play to you for getting out and giving it a go and good luck mate , I just thought I was missing something but now realise you’re new and just dropped a bollock oh well shit happens 👍 I’ll subscribe 👍👍👍👍 good luck with it pal

    • @sojourn6697
      @sojourn6697 Месяц назад

      The point you’re missing is he’s not perfect like you. Give him time he’s just learning.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +2

      Just an update - Three tests must be reached in order for a Police Officer to inspect (and record) a Drone Operator ID under Schedule 9 of the ANO 2016A.
      SCHEDULE 9
      Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable-
      (a)has reasonable grounds for believing that-
      (i)a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, (the officers were aware before they arrived that I had been flying my drone and recording with it)
      AND
      (ii)P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight, AND
      (b)has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant competency requirement is or was applicable (this relates to 250g Drones and above OR Under 250g Drones if they can record).
      In my case, the officers asked me if I had been recording and I said Yes.
      This then required me if asked to allow the officers to inspect (and record) my Operator ID.
      My lesson learnt was not to be so forthright with the Business owners! Thanks very much for your support and advice. 👍 PA

  • @adrianbrowne7874
    @adrianbrowne7874 Месяц назад +1

    A nice informal conclusion to the proceedings, by the Female officer waving 2 you like that!!😊

  • @Sequoyah_7
    @Sequoyah_7 17 дней назад

    Banking/investing institutions are always the most protected entity.

  • @davidharwood9552
    @davidharwood9552 Месяц назад +2

    Lloyds Bank. Now I understand. When I try to call because I have to. All the banks have closed down it takes ages to get an answer then the person answering has poor communication skills. Now I know why they are employing locals who don’t speak a logical English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @Weedug
    @Weedug Месяц назад +8

    I see all the armchair experts are commenting. You do your videos the way you want. It gives a different point of view on things. Take care.

  • @patrickdaly2121
    @patrickdaly2121 10 дней назад +1

    The way she desperately photographed your operating Id. Police are so desperate to get our private information. Sickening addiction.

  • @CharlesDickson-nv2ol
    @CharlesDickson-nv2ol Месяц назад +2

    When are they going to prosecute these companies wasting police time? Of course they won’t they are the company private police service.

  • @willx8837
    @willx8837 Месяц назад +2

    Dumber and Dumber, how the hell did they get into the Police

    • @cliffordbuttle4529
      @cliffordbuttle4529 Месяц назад

      You just told your self the answer 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @rokketron
    @rokketron Месяц назад

    Your details will now be everywhere!

  • @westentertainer
    @westentertainer Месяц назад +1

    The guy who was passively saying you could be filming young girls should be more concerned with picking a suit that actually fkn fits him. The sleeves would fit an orang-utan. Ffs

  • @Tazz-Media
    @Tazz-Media Месяц назад

    Was that a 999 call - get a copy of the report made P.A. Did those Police record you? 🤔

  • @ChrisJones-bp7ij
    @ChrisJones-bp7ij Месяц назад +2

    Should of asked if you was being detained.

  • @thedroneguy123
    @thedroneguy123 Месяц назад

    I’ve asked you a few times now
    Is your backing track David Hartley on the Steel guitar he’s a friend of mine 👍🏻

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Sorry I don’t know. The music is called The Countryside. PA

    • @sojourn6697
      @sojourn6697 Месяц назад

      I like it.

  • @jamesmoore9414
    @jamesmoore9414 Месяц назад +2

    Operator ID is person responsible for the drone. Nothing to do with the pilot of the drone. Clueless.

  • @leyland110
    @leyland110 Месяц назад +1

    Another polite interaction from yourself , we know you're new at auditing but you'll pick up on the technicality's as you go along . Take no notice of the negative and some impolite comments , there's always those who make judgements when not knowing the first thing about the law . Keep it up and enjoy your hobby

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your support and encouragement 👍 PA

  • @philipjones9458
    @philipjones9458 Месяц назад +6

    He's a novice he'll learn in time.

  • @jesuschrist2284
    @jesuschrist2284 Месяц назад +2

    Plod cant demand to see an operator id unless they have reasonable suspicion you have commited an offense. Tell them to jog on

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

  • @andrewgleeson3946
    @andrewgleeson3946 Месяц назад +1

    yet again the police choosing who to side with and not being impartial.

  • @TruthTeller-vk1du
    @TruthTeller-vk1du Месяц назад +1

    Uneducated cops can be pleasant even if they are clueless and feel they must try and flex themselves with directives.

  • @philip5876
    @philip5876 Месяц назад +2

    Wow patronisation someone isn't a crime.... I wouldn't have allowed the police the operator I'd since no crime was committed..... But your such a nice guy..... The police were fishing for everything tho even tho no laws are broken and then she says "if any breach of peace is reported they come back" but does that mean if its towards you or from you
    Why the hell did he bring up filming your girls for... What a pleb. that's him trying to get the police to engage for something else

  • @ysgol3
    @ysgol3 Месяц назад +2

    Sorry PA, I'm a huge fan, but giving them your ID when that pair of thickos hadn't stated why they reasonably suspected you of a crime (which of course was impossible!) wasn't right, but as you say it's all part of learning your work!
    And that daft old fart with his young girls obsession was so so weird.
    Still a big fan though of course!

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад +1

      Learn the drone laws instead of moaning at PA, you have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @ysgol3
      @ysgol3 Месяц назад

      @@Mrchipsv2 😂😂😂I know 'em better than you you c***🤣🤣

  • @collinw1353
    @collinw1353 Месяц назад +2

    Don't video the 18-19 year olds?!? From 200ft up?! Does he think young adults are afraid of a camera when they're on social media recording themselves all the time. Ridiculous.

  • @RonSeymour1
    @RonSeymour1 Месяц назад +1

    With the operator ID they only know the owner, not the person flying. If they were to place a report against the owner's ID and that were a different person that would be an interesting legal challenge.

  • @pete3206
    @pete3206 Месяц назад +2

    Asked not to film 'young girls'? What a weird request

  • @rsmickeymooproductions4877
    @rsmickeymooproductions4877 21 день назад

    Operator ID is the registered drone owner not your ID. There is a difference. BTW unless you are suspected of committing a crime, you do not need to supply the OP ID especially when you have not even taken the thing out of the bag.

  • @easytiger5491
    @easytiger5491 Месяц назад +7

    Thumb down for showing and letting Her take your operators ID.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Lesson learnt. PA

  • @richardjones8699
    @richardjones8699 Месяц назад +3

    Not the best audit was it sadly. Best to know the Law before you actually start.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Just an update - Three tests must be reached in order for a Police Officer to inspect (and record) a Drone Operator ID under Schedule 9 of the ANO 2016A.
      SCHEDULE 9
      Unmanned aircraft: powers of police officers relating to ANO 2016A constable may exercise the power conferred by this paragraph in relation to a person (P) if the constable-
      (a)has reasonable grounds for believing that-
      (i)a flight by an unmanned aircraft is taking place or has taken place, (the officers were aware before they arrived that I had been flying my drone and recording with it)
      AND
      (ii)P is or was the remote pilot of the unmanned aircraft for the flight, AND
      (b)has reasonable grounds for suspecting that a relevant competency requirement is or was applicable (this relates to 250g Drones and above OR Under 250g Drones if they can record).
      In my case, the officers asked me if I had been recording and I said Yes.
      This then required me if asked to allow the officers to inspect (and record) my Operator ID.
      My lesson learnt was not to be so forthright with the Business owners! Thanks very much for your support and advice. 👍 PA

  • @gitmoholliday5764
    @gitmoholliday5764 Месяц назад +3

    I bet in case of lawfull flying the police may NOT use the operators ID
    to get your name and details, maybe if they do someone at the police or CAA
    is breaking GDPR laws. ( DOXXING )

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      If they see you flying or believe it's been flying the drone and know it's recording then yes they can have the OP ID by law

    • @gitmoholliday5764
      @gitmoholliday5764 Месяц назад

      @@Mrchipsv2 nevermind they can ask the operators ID the problem is the are going one step further, using that ID to get your Name adres birth street number etc.. it is a bit like they stop you on false suspicion of carrying a knife and using that false suspicion to get your name etc.. and after they figured out you are innocent they still gained your information.

    • @Mrchipsv2
      @Mrchipsv2 Месяц назад

      @@gitmoholliday5764 but schedule 9 section 2 gives them powers to take your info

  • @solitudeguard5688
    @solitudeguard5688 Месяц назад +1

    Oh good lord

  • @qtube1980
    @qtube1980 Месяц назад +1

    Putting lives at risk racing to the scene, My deaf niece almost come a cropper avoiding these street racers.

  • @Desertfox170
    @Desertfox170 Месяц назад +2

    Blimey how much do thay eat must like Thier pies

  • @Exploringcornwall1
    @Exploringcornwall1 Месяц назад +1

    The police may well have gone too far in obtaining your details from the Op ID as no crime was committed. Worth taking legal advice on that.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for your advice and support - Also please look at YT Geeksvana - Police Powers and your Drone. PA

  • @steveacaster6326
    @steveacaster6326 Месяц назад +1

    Agree with other’s stop giving your drone ID . Straight away they have your details. Remember they are not your friends.

    • @PureAudits
      @PureAudits  Месяц назад

      Thanks for your advice. This was the first time I had encountered Police asking for Op ID. Thanks for your support. PA

  • @stephenbrown8744
    @stephenbrown8744 Месяц назад +1

    The police officer could find herself being prosecuted if she were to cause an accident whilst responding with blue lights for what is clearly not an emergency situation.

  • @kandiManZ001
    @kandiManZ001 Месяц назад +3

    Sarcastic cow, and literally the size of one!

    • @simondalzell5635
      @simondalzell5635 Месяц назад

      Sickeningly Patronising tone she uses and says. ''I thin k you've been asked a few times not to though''. Horrible.. Not Fit for the Job.