Top Picks for 5* Limited Lightcones in Honkai Star Rail (Community Comments Addressed)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @TheodoreNoises
    @TheodoreNoises Месяц назад +49

    The effect hit rate is good because it allows you to run other stats which you otherwise couldn’t, and it’s not a “build issues” as it’s basically impossible to get as much value and reach his needs as easily. It allows you to run ATK substats , and almost completely ignore EHR, boosting his damage beyond what was reasonable, it’s extra damage that is good enough to not be ignored, + debuffing.
    Besides, he wants his lightcone almost as much as Acheron, it boost so much and the uptime is so much better than Resolution.

    • @ocher8931
      @ocher8931 Месяц назад +8

      I got the LC and it really gives you leeway to build on other stats.

    • @kairen1628
      @kairen1628 Месяц назад +6

      Thats why you need to consider how much do you want to invest into the character. He did say, if you want to build them dps, then its a really good stat, but if u dont and just use him as an archeron support only for example, getting that ehr from relics are better because you dont really care about his personal damage. I personally pulled jq lc because I rolled his e2 and he deals huge dOT damage.

    • @berksahin7306
      @berksahin7306 Месяц назад +2

      It is not just personal damage though, his LC gives another 16% team damage with the extra vulnerability. For your reference Robin E1 is 24% during her ult, and Ruan Mei E1 ranges between 12% to 22% depending on how much def shred you already have. It is the best debuffing LC in the game period, and everybody is sleeping on it.
      Edit: changed 18% to 16%, forgot to include JQ ultimate vulnerability.

  • @Ilikegames804
    @Ilikegames804 Месяц назад +35

    IMO these are the best Limited LCS from each path
    Nihility: JQ's sig provides 22% total Vuln for dots and 10% vuln outside of it in other words a straight 10%-22% final dmg increase alongside 60% EHR the highest any S1 LC can give meaning you can use EHR body and go full on spd/atk and most characters can guarantee their debuffs.
    Erudition: Before Dawn- Self explanatory the most universal LC and is like BIS for most of the erudition units due to 36% CDMG, 18% DMG% on skill and ULT while giving 48% DMG% for FUA.
    Destruction: Unreachable side: 18% CR and universal 24%DMG% just for getting hit. In hindsight it's not a good LC but it is applicable to every destruction unit due to its non-specific and easy to fulfill conditions.
    Hunt: Ratio's LC - 20% CDMG (non conditional) 24% extra CDMG as long as there are debuffs, 36% General dmg buff and 24% def ignore for FUA specific. Even if we ignore the def ignore and the conditional crit dmg buff it's still a 36% general dmg buff and 20% CDMG that is unconditional.
    Preservation- Fuxuan's LC- 12% ERR
    Abundance- HuoHuo's LC - 12% ERR, additional 10% heal to the lowest HP apply whenever you use ULT, and 12% atk buff.
    Harmony- None the LC's all too hyper-specific with the condition of activation.

    • @yvindvego9404
      @yvindvego9404 Месяц назад +8

      bronya's lc is universally good for harmony characters.

    • @Ilikegames804
      @Ilikegames804 Месяц назад +11

      @@yvindvego9404 I said limited Lc's I didn't include standard banners like Bronya's

    • @hazardsigns
      @hazardsigns Месяц назад +1

      To add that Fu Xuan's LC also heals the whole team to 80% of their full health with each new wave/battle 👍🏻

    • @ilikenewmeta9717
      @ilikenewmeta9717 Месяц назад +2

      I can accept your take for Nihility, Preservation and Hunt. And I agree with Night of Fright but I feel like Ruan Meis Sig is just a lot better than the other harmony lightcones, free SP, dmg% for DoT, Break effect is good on HMC etc. And I'm pretty certain Before Dawn got powercrept by jade's cone.
      I'd also argue Dance at Sunset is the best overall Destruction light cone.

    • @Ilikegames804
      @Ilikegames804 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@ilikenewmeta9717Jade's LC requires a basic for full activation so it isn't better unless 0 cycles or QQ and even then it's pure FUA buffs so Argenti and Serval can't use it unlike BD.
      Dance of the sunset is kinda too focused for FUA dmg and aside from Yunli, clara or PF Blade it really has no use.

  • @mismagia
    @mismagia Месяц назад +15

    Personally theory I have is that jiaoqiu lightcone will be better for Black swan in the long run compared to her own as I think if we get a new DoT character Blackswan will move to a support like role with her arcana stacks and Def shred and the new DoT character will take the role of the meta dps
    (I also just really want a Phys/fire Dot dps 5star)

  • @5eV3nty7
    @5eV3nty7 Месяц назад +4

    Hey EOD Gamer, really appreciate you and your team making these videos..
    I am a very new player here, and i learnt alot from your vids and the community here..
    Please continue to create these contents~ and the format you’r using to address the community’s comments are great too. Not many cc out there does that.
    Will continue to support your channel! 😃

  • @nicvane8751
    @nicvane8751 Месяц назад +3

    Versatility of lc’s is super important! I use my topaz lc for ratio, Feixiao and topaz. And it leaves cruising open for the other since I usually use hunt characters together

  • @weakoldman9253
    @weakoldman9253 Месяц назад +17

    14:00 the realisation of what he just said

  • @wirakirros7281
    @wirakirros7281 Месяц назад +19

    That's not how you value Topaz's LC.
    In a FUA team, that LC adds 50% more DMG not once, but it can be 2-3 times in a turn. 50% DMG will be added to Feixiao who attacks 3 times in a turn. 50% DMG will be added to Topaz's atk and Numby's atk, in which case Numby will be rapidly advanced by the gang. Then we will have Aventurine which will attack like 1-2 times after the enemies bombard you.
    In a turn cycle, that could mean hundreds percentage of DMG added to your team. That is huuuuuge. And note this: as Hoyo releases more powerful FUA characters, this LC will just get better.

    • @ilikenewmeta9717
      @ilikenewmeta9717 Месяц назад

      It had the biggest glow up ever

    • @EyesDontCry
      @EyesDontCry Месяц назад +2

      I'm also considering not her lc being against topaz e1, but topaz herself as I don't even have topaz.
      I feel it would be much better for me to get her lc over her since I already have moze and can get eidolons through events/ over time and rather than pulling for a replacement character, I am getting a direct upgrade on an existing character for the fua team which can then also be slotted into any other hunt dps for the crit rate + 5 star stats or any other hunt follow up for full benefit like Dr ratio, feixiao and march 7 (she benefits less from the personal damgage boost but can still apply the debuff)

    • @anirudhv5940
      @anirudhv5940 Месяц назад

      I dont understand your point.First of all its 24 cd vs 50 cd,and topaz e1 also applies to basically every single attack just like s1
      plus saying its 100s of percentages is bs.Its still 24 cd for the DPAV of the time,just like any other buffing lc

  • @FrostShard1337
    @FrostShard1337 Месяц назад +14

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  • @poke8391
    @poke8391 Месяц назад +21

    Kafka light cone is so good, I mean you could also use in other future

    • @poke8391
      @poke8391 Месяц назад +1

      In other characters in the future *

    • @allstones1462
      @allstones1462 Месяц назад +3

      May we use kafka's in another hoyo multiverse, HI3 maybe?

    • @DmdQar
      @DmdQar Месяц назад +1

      ​@@poke8391what is the benefit from kafka lc over s5 gnsw for other characters than kafka? Personally I think her sig is kinda overrated since s5 gnsw provide more dmg

    • @janbiel1221
      @janbiel1221 Месяц назад +3

      ​​@@DmdQargives speed, her best stat (same with every DoT unit), gives another DoT which can activate the set effect giving the 3rd DoT while running only 2 DoT characters and also gives a nice amount of damage. There's also the highest atk stat that the LC gives
      It's by far her best LC and gives more damage than any other LC. Sure, with other LCs you will see her own DoT doing 100k and with this LC you will see her DoT doing 80k and the LC DoT doing 40k for a total of 120k, while having more actions per cycle

    • @DmdQar
      @DmdQar Месяц назад +3

      @@janbiel1221 i know about all that you write, what im asking is that what does this LC provide for other nihility unit? The person obove said that it good for other unit

  • @julioflores6673
    @julioflores6673 Месяц назад +4

    Thanks for reading my comment. I can clarify somethings. I have read some comments on this video that go into the value of JQ's LC.
    I am of the opinion that all limited LC are a luxury, so when comparing limited LC to each other I will compare them to other limited LC in the same path. I will weigh how strong it is on the intended character, and how many other characters can use it well. I will also consider the impact of the stat it gives.
    JQ's LC is extremely good on him, and is the BIS for many other characters.
    I think EHR is the most valuable stat for nihility characters because without it they will not be able to function. EHR is like crit rate on a crit DPS because you want to make it as high as possible so that you can get your desired result. However you will still need another stat to accompany it. Like how you want to pair a high crit rate with crit damage you want to pair EHR with Speed and Attack%. At the moment there is only one relic set that offers EHR, and I do not think is is a good relic set.
    Both Black Swan and JQ require an absurd amount of EHR when compared to other characters, so that extra 20% will go a long way to get the desired EHR, and it will make it easier to focus your substats into reaching 160 speed.
    The 4* dot characters with JQ's LC can completly ignore building EHR in favor of Speed and Attack substat.
    I think Resolution is the best LC to compare JQ's LC to. Both LCs provide a debuff that increases the teams damage. However there is one major flaw with Resolution that makes it worse than JC's LC.
    At low super imposition Resolution has a low base chance of inflicting a debuff and since Resolution does not give any EHR the holder must build a lot of EHR in order to have a decent chance of landing the debuff.
    At higher super impositions Resolution starts to have a higher base chanse of inflicting the debuff, but it is a lot harder to S5 a 4* LC than it is to get a limited LC, so if you are not lucky enough to pull a few copies of Resolution then it might not be worth running.
    JQ's LC may cost 200$, but an s5 4* LC can be worth more than 200$

  • @berksahin7306
    @berksahin7306 Месяц назад +7

    I agree that JQ LC is not at the level of Kafka LC, and Resolution Shines exists.
    But not everyone has an S5 Resolution Shines in their account, and lower super impositions require a lot of EHR to be effective.
    Also 2 characters, namely Black Swan and JQ, can't effectively utilize Resolution due to their high EHR needs.
    It is not possible to have very high EHR, Speed and ATK substats at the same time.
    I think you would be surprised by how much damage Black Swan contributes to in a Dotcheron team with JQ LC, especially if you have her at E1.
    Edit: Resolution Shines gives a 17% boost to team damage at most, if it takes you from 84% to 100%. JQ LC damage increase is 17% when used with JQ, and 24% with no other sources of vulnerability.
    In an Acheron team, you can give Resolution to JQ, but you need another source of def shred like Pela or Silverwolf to unlock its potential. What LC are you giving to Pela or Silverwolf then? Multiple Resolutions don't stack. Pela needs Reso to be able to apply debuffs, and Silverwolf def shred is only single target.

    • @wswann34
      @wswann34 Месяц назад +1

      CC would always recommend these 4* lc without specifying that it needs to be s5. Most people dont even have the lc itself so going for a 5* lc is much more easier and the stats it gives makes relic farming more forgiving

    • @berksahin7306
      @berksahin7306 Месяц назад

      That is impressive if you are being honest. Ideally you would be at 138, but it wouldn't make a big difference in practice. Still, what is the expected time for farming those relics? Maybe you were lucky and got them in a week, but if you had average luck it would take you around 3 months. The point still stands.

  • @ohmygodratatui
    @ohmygodratatui Месяц назад +1

    Wow man you're getting so much more familiar with being in front of a camera. Keep it up :D

  • @ebonomicscasual1433
    @ebonomicscasual1433 Месяц назад +6

    I feel like a big thing in HSR community that they get wrong that Genshin community got right is beating content with a baseline that is f2- friendly and resource management based. HSR assumes 10/10/10/10 and S1. Genshin will try and find the most f2p (not gacha) option ignoring event exclusives and use that and 6/6/6 or 8/8/8 as the baseline for all charaacters which allows people to more accurately gauge how strong a unit is and makes saving and prepping for new units easier while still showcasing good end game runs

  • @InvasorJim101
    @InvasorJim101 Месяц назад +1

    Earlier today, I tried listening to a cc who took an hour to say the one thing I wanted to know. I missed EOD so much then.

  • @tokyovampire1
    @tokyovampire1 Месяц назад

    One nice benefit of limited lcs is you can use them to make 4star characters you really like better. If Hunt March is your favorite character getting her Topaz lc can be a huge power spike for her. Or if you are a QQ main getting Jade's LC can be massive even if you are f2p since f2p are more likely to main a 4star character and a limited lc is way cheaper than a single copy of a 5 star. specific 5 star is 93 on avg and specific lc is 69 on avg according to a few posts I've seen.

  • @stribijev
    @stribijev Месяц назад +4

    Thanks for answering my comment :) I did not mess with RUclips algorithms, I swear I do not know why that 6-upvote comment was higher.

  • @BigBoyAndrew05
    @BigBoyAndrew05 Месяц назад +1

    I understand what you're saying by pulling lighcones with the most value, but I personally don't like switching lighcones between characters, I like to always have the characters that I love using built the best they can be. But also I'm not F2P so my philosophy on pulling is different than someone who is F2P.

  • @Milk-4416
    @Milk-4416 Месяц назад

    The main reason I got topaz lc was to free up stellar sea for my other hunt units

  • @alexanderdeldiablo6508
    @alexanderdeldiablo6508 Месяц назад

    As a S1 pearls haver with all the current 4 limited characters, I'm having a bad time trying Not to pull on a LC, help.

  • @Jett125
    @Jett125 Месяц назад +1

    Great vids but so far they have been focused on the versatility of the light cone.
    I am curious about your thoughts on how good a given light cone is for the character it is made for.
    I know if it's versatile it's more future proof but if I just like a character how worthwhile is that lightcone for them forgetting it can be moved on to other characters.

  • @marcusbullock2753
    @marcusbullock2753 Месяц назад

    When a Light cone becomes a whole character you know its a good light cone its basically a Stan.

  • @Umbruh_Prime
    @Umbruh_Prime Месяц назад +1

    I was theorizing what using kafkas light cone on my sampo could do for his dot if he can apply both wind shear and the special electric proc, but then i started thinking that maybe at that point i should just go for black swan if im so worried about upping my dot damage?

  • @mace8k
    @mace8k Месяц назад +1

    the real gigachads pulled ruan meis lc and have been using it on hmc

    • @nebula5737
      @nebula5737 Месяц назад

      Why is it good on hmc? Have it, but I have not used it on him because I need the BE stats for RM, lmao

    • @mace8k
      @mace8k Месяц назад

      @@nebula5737 just as a good weapon if you were to run both them and ruan mei in the same team. cause i personally just use memories of the past on her for the more consistent ult

  • @allooonzog1113
    @allooonzog1113 Месяц назад

    I managed to get Kafka, Black Swan, and im 78 pulls into attempting to get Robin. Really wish i had the jades to get Kafkas LC, but since this is her 3rd rerun, at least i know ill have a lot time to save for it. Do you have a higher chance of pulling 4 star gacha LCs when you pull on LC banners (such as Dance Dance Dance)?

  • @jamesdavid2893
    @jamesdavid2893 Месяц назад +1

    Kafkas lc.
    Ruan meis lc.
    Yunlis lc.
    Feixiaos lc.
    Sparkles lc.
    Acherons lc.
    Whale your nuts off and get every lc if you want to.
    JQ lc is okay for the 60% yet the passive is a chance to do something, you want something that actually does something.😊

  • @khangsterrr
    @khangsterrr Месяц назад

    ayo did bro upgrade his camera??? 📸

  • @Ricksola
    @Ricksola Месяц назад

    My only regret is going for Jingliu's LC

    • @phatamorgannah9626
      @phatamorgannah9626 Месяц назад

      why? I mean regrettably I sometimes feel the same about it

    • @Ricksola
      @Ricksola Месяц назад

      @@phatamorgannah9626 because I barely feel a difference with her LC and Aeon 😅 I wish I would've saved for another char/LC instead.
      I already had Danny'sLC too

    • @m0chiface
      @m0chiface Месяц назад

      Don’t call me out 🫣

    • @gmasterkoestimanta
      @gmasterkoestimanta Месяц назад

      Jingliu LC shines with more def ignore compared to Aeon
      Try running 4pc quantum and pela in her team

  • @shamimhossain9796
    @shamimhossain9796 Месяц назад +1

    Handsome gamer in glasses is so fine.

  • @shironekox9309
    @shironekox9309 Месяц назад

    Should I pull for Feixiao or E1 Robin?

    • @berksahin7306
      @berksahin7306 Месяц назад

      Do you like Feixiao as a character?

    • @shironekox9309
      @shironekox9309 Месяц назад

      @@berksahin7306 Yeah but im talking about whats better for my account I also like robin

    • @Meeraghouse
      @Meeraghouse Месяц назад +4

      If you're talking about what's better for your account then you shoudk go for E1 Robin cuz the 24% res pen is universally good for all DPS, and since Feixiao is a DPS, she'll eventually be powercrept in the future too. So E1 Robin is technically better

    • @kylenunez2820
      @kylenunez2820 Месяц назад

      Have the same dilemma but what I'm most worried about is upcoming characters lol, idrk if it's good to future proof Robin now when I can use the pulls I used there for an attempt at a 5* Character later on

    • @berksahin7306
      @berksahin7306 Месяц назад

      @@shironekox9309 If you like Feixiao, get Feixiao. You already have Robin. Getting a character you would like to play now as opposed to 6 months later is more important. You can worry about future proofing Robin in the future, when future content is harder. I'm sure she'll have another rerun in another 6 months anyway. Hoyo wouldn't get away with rerunning the best character in the game 3 months after her release, and not rerun her ever again.

  • @Short..
    @Short.. Месяц назад

    bruh please talk about what lcs are worth s2-5 for us who already e6 T_T

  • @Cupid7744
    @Cupid7744 Месяц назад

    RAAAAAAAAAH

  • @dplayer2693
    @dplayer2693 Месяц назад +1

    54 seconds? Am i first?