Composite Units. Minutemen+Grenadiers. Empire: Total War.
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- There is an interesting unit in the US roster, Minutemen. Militia with light infantry skirmish ability. Minutemen shoot by all ranks at the same time (not every soldier though).
Medium difficulty.
I hope they redo this time period in total war. A proper Empire would be the perfect way for CA to make a comeback.
Instead they decided to kill Three Kingdoms and move on with the Warhammer stuff.
well its not like they are running out of money, people are buying warhammer
Big need. Something that can span different eras from the early 1700s on to the end of the 19th century. As time progresses pertaining to your particular nation that you are playing, new theatres of the map reveal themselves. America's, India, southeastern Asia/Indies, Japan ,China, Africa. Man, that would be incredible.
Hell I'm so desperate for TW to get out of the dungeons and dragons crap that I would even be okay with it even if it ran on Shogun 2s engine. I always thought that the fall of the samurai dlc had some of the better gunplay in total war. Not to mention those incredible naval battles. Imagine an empire with different ages of ships through the playthrough. One can hope!
@@DrWongburger Unfortunately, a lot of people think history genre is boring, so they want more fantasy stuff, people are buying Warhammer. That's why they killed Three Kingdoms Total War.
I will not be surprise, the day when fantasy stuffs get stale, CA decided make a sci fi genre Total War games. Historical genre was abandon by CA, but maybe someday Indie company will make a Total War rip off game sets in 17th century.
Just look at Cities Skylines, that game was made by the time after EA killed Simcity.
@@DrWongburger Maybe you can check out Ultimate Generals made by Darthmod. But that game lacks turn based strategy empire building mechanics.
I'm proud that some still play empire, sadly i can't because of issues with mine but thankfully ntw3 saved me from boredom
What exactly is the issue you’re having? Mine refused to launch and nothing I did fixed it for years until I recently played around with it and kind of tricked it into giving me a good fresh install. Thanks to a guide online.
@@tybushnell9819 Tbh largest problem I have with Empire total war is the fort battles.
Get a fort and AI will fail to attack 80% of the time 😅
But hell, Empire total war is still my fav total war.
@@jarskil8862 Yea but in most of my games the AI fails to advance on that position before I can just meet them on my own terms in the field.
I fucking hate empire so much.... yet I still have 750 hours of it on steam. Why can't they fix it?
I’ve heard many people discuss issues they had with Empire. For me I’ve never had a problem with Empire, it’s Shogun 2 that crashes or won’t start for me.
The use of grenades like this is terribly important when fighting factions on the Indian subcontinent in a mod like Darthmod, which enlarges their units. Some mob units (meatshields, I know, that is the problem) are 600 men strong on 'ultra' unit size. While European nations differ from 200 to 450 for most line infantry for example. So if you keep tossing grenades at them you'll be rid of those enemy units all the sooner.
Or just use light dragoons, but for me they are cheat unit.
@@costamcostam8961 Well aye, though in Darthmod, if you're facing a Mughal army of around 11 thousand men, and your army is around 7 thousand, no amount of light dragoons in there is going to To be fair, all cities on the island are tolerable. No amount of light dragoons will be of great effect. Even though those units are enlarged to 120-140 men each.
@@JariB. 100% agree with both of you. The truck I’ve found is terrain and massed artillery ie.1-4 batteries of artillery as close together as possible in a choke point with canister. Imagine a valley with a massive shotgun on one end
Just use howitzers with quicklime, if you get a right angle you can wipe out an entire unit
My Prussian line infantry + 10 guns of 12 inch howitzers with napalm do the trick nicely. When this "napalm" hits at the center of the mob unit... Oh boy, oh boy do they run...
The Grenades in Empire feel almost as weak as the charges
so true.
How about Line Infantry at the front, Pikemen at the rear?
Against any European faction:
1. Let Line Infantry and Pikemen march forward under fire until they are within 30m.
2. Line Infantry fire 2 salvos using all rank salvo fire option
3. Pikemen doing banzai charge
Against Maratha and Ottoman faction:
1. Let Line Infantry and Pikemen march forward until they are around 100m.
2. Line Infantry open fire with using fire by rank ability
3. If the enemy melee infantry decided to banzai charge, order your line infantry to fire one more salvos before retreating behind the Pikemen
4. Let the Pikemen do the rest
One of the issues would be that pikemen are not available for a majority of the game, so you would have to be really careful with the ones you make in the early game
Line can basically do what pikes do AND fire =/ However, if you have melee focussed infantry (Ottoman or Indians), this can be a pretty good combo...or with Scots, the highlanders have great hiding skills, so the enemy never see them coming after your musketry volleys (not to mention, they can get fire by rank as they have european line infantry)
@@Comred1 One year late, but I discovered (or better, learned) that you can train pikemen even in late game, you just need to have a tier 1 government building in a minor city. You lose the ability to train pikes, not as the year progress, but when you upgrade the town hall. So if you keep a province in tier 1, or demolish the building and build a tier 1 again, you can build pikes even in late game. Not that they're very useful, IMO, mind you, but still.
Tho what's the point of doing so? Ottoman faction and the marathon faction will get gun units too? No point getting pike units unless your that good at ensuring their morale doesn't break because I've routed pikemen plenty of times with artillery and lots of line infantry gunfire.
Pike men can break.
It's better to have line infantry that can perform in both.
And honestly I've done it plenty of times in customs to test things out.
Pike and line infantry combo.
Pike their not as effective as you'd think.
Unless their highly upgraded and such then their probably good. But their stats are so bad.
Instead of wasting one of my settles just because pike unit.
Now unless it was something like medieval 2 total war where the pikes can actually get armor.
If your gonna try pikemen or something play ottomans or one of those eastern facts because I'm pretty sure they got some stupid armored pike men
Again just the idea where your pikes are charging very slow..... you'd mindaswell just play the regular comp of an gunpowder army.
Line infantry core, with 2 to 3 light infantry/skirmishers.
2 heavy cavalry and one 24 pounder cannon and a 24 howitzer for quicklime easy AoE damage.
Then fill in the other spaces with either grenadiers or better line infantry especially if your playing Sweden or Prussia you'd get superior line infantry.
Nice tactic, I'll try this one out for sure. Playing as America in the final 1780+ campaign is one of the more limitless and free campaigns in the game. No pun intended.
You used Militians as literally human shields.
That's the way I use the mortar men when I play with Russia or Ottoman Empire tbh is easier like this for not having to click everytime to the grenades
No matter how many bugs this game is still better than anything since Rome 2
rome 2 is better
getting it done with style
These methods are cool and fun but they are hard to be practical during a a battle. I tried a lot of ways to make grenadier be important or be effective.
But so far the only I know is to make them either melee defend my other troops, or flank enemy with grenades, can't really find further more effective uses
Yeah I use them as reserve line infantry in the manner you stated
It's best to keep them as the second line of reserves I'm case your line infantry gets stomped by the enemy and you can charge the grenadiers to replace the line infantry and make them run around the flanks to reform and shoot the enemy at the sides. Other than that keep the grenadiers on the flanks due to their better melee defence and attack. They'll be nasty against cavalry.
Me wishing there were native american lancers for America and Spain....one can dream 😅.
Can you try columns vs line? I have been thinking of doing 2 or 3 columns, fire then charge to overwhelm a line .
Good luck doing that in the dm with full stack armies
should be vs 2 squads, not 2 vs 1
pre - blitzkrieg , I love it
All you are doing is abusing the infinite grenade bug, you are also taking casualties on your grens.
Do you plan on making any mods?
I'm surprised they didn't break rank getting that close.
I haven’t played empire in ages but Amazing game I’ve been playing the civil war mod on napoleon total war a lot
I always try to put grenadiers behind regular infantry for just this purpose. Between the grenades and the bullets, not many units last very long.
Nice stuff! Any video featuring melee units (Ottoman Empire, native Americans or Russians)?
only briths have to move back few meters and the granades doesnt work.... nice video but not helpful at battlefield.
Is empire worth playing now or maybe with Darthmod?
When I played Empire I did it on a spanish clan mod called HG Empire Ultimate Edition, which was similar to Darthmod. My experience is that Empire with mods is muuuuuuuuuuuuch better than without them. Factions get more detailed and accurate, and not just copypastes with different colours.
@@RTO41 Yea thinking of playing Empire, I would prefer a total war game of that age (until attila) to play with some sort of mod to either improve the vanila game or make it difference gameplay like divide et impera.What wold you prefer between Darth mod and the mod you mentioned?
@@jeannedejean8100 Well I only know well the mod that I played. It had amazing features, like the portraits of generals and monarchs being actual paintings of those people instead of the clown faced avatars, full retexture of all faction units (Swedish troops were blond hehe) and flags, expanded unit rosters (France for instance was amazing, if a monarchy you had some kind of troops and if you rebelled and became a republic you had a whole different roster of untis). This mod was great but unfortunately it wasn't updated to match the last version of Empire, so it can be a bit messy to make it run. However I'm pretty sure Darthmod is very similar, if not even better. The HG Ultimate Empire Edition was done by a small comunity of Spanish modders, while Darthmod I think that it's a team that has modded every single Total War. Checkout its features. Overall, I'd say almost any mod will imrove vastly your experience in comparison with vanilla, and Darthmod is one of the most well known for sure. You can't go wrong with it.
It's worth playing now with darthmod.
Why?
Total war civil war
You should of done both sides with grenadiers
run pls run
Shit game but we all play it since there is no other 17th centuru era game to play.
Defending a fort against an enemy 10X your number in Empire is truly Napoleonic
devastationalizing them
Why does your game look more HD than mine? Are you using any graphics mod?
honestly, I don't know. No mods here. Also, I do not suggest using any environmental mods for Empire as the environment graphics depends on region, weather, day time etc. And it is great and different.
empire modern warfare 2
reminds me of one southpark movie..:D
What does composite mean
Why didn't you film the carnage?
I prefer not to charge with musket butt:)
American units making the bri'ish units rout using big bombs makes me so happy.
Yes
Wow