I agree, HoTD and RoP are not even on the same level of writing it is actually funny to witness. It is like comparing a dissertation to a high school paper
@@NotThatNacho Yeah. I'm shocked how cocky Ryan&George were with the first season, doing time jumps and recasting like it's nothing and totally pull it off. I can't express how happy HOTD made me after the utter disappointment of GoT season 8. Made me start my channel finally... BTW the car crashing the melon Oberyn joke xD
Nah! S8 is just so disappointing . It almost crushed my love for the Martin's world. HotD revived it and make me rewatch got. Though ROP does the same thing but not because i liked it but because i want to forget ROP. also want to be reminded that why Tolkien's work is famous.
It's really ironic, and a tale of opposites. I absolutely loved GOT up until the last few seasons. But then came season 8... I was so pissed off (trying to keep it clean) at the direction the show (writing) went. I was totally DONE with anything Game of Thrones! I felt like my GF was cheating on me. I felt violated. Lord Of The Rings, I equally loved, I even enjoyed The Hobbit... mostly. I couldn't wait for the next installment of Tolkien's works to hit the screen. Then, I heard about Amazon taking up the challenge, and I was totally on board!!! Rings of Power... Hell yeah! Go Bezos! Fast forward to today. Keeping it short because we all know the who, what, and why's... Rings of Power is dead to me. And I can't wait for season 2 of House Of The Dragon. Yes, there is a sprinkle of identity politics, but it was done with finesse, it feels organic, and it makes sense. So I don't have an issue with it.
Make up sex is the best hey? haha yeah i'm the same. I was gutted (like Daenerys lol) with the last season of got but was pleasantly surprised with HoD. and RoP, we know how i l feel about it. Maybe this will inspire PJ will feel the need to put the directing cap once more and he'll get a nice thick budget, i mean if this guys got a bil..
Lol you're so right, i care more about Vaghar and Caraxes than i do half the characters of RoP 😂 imagine being less interesting that a cgi dragon who doesn't speak
@@NotThatNacho I was hoping it would be the standard 1 season per year. If HOTD had been on season 3, when season 2 of ROP came out, it would have been the headshot to end the match. Game over. GG. Who's next. I mean, way more than it's already winning the battle for the fans.
@@ardent963 I mean, HoD has everything set to go straight into a season 2, RoP has to rebuilt the mess they made and doesn't have the fans to back them up..I think the game ended a while ago 😅
Alicent and Rey are one of the best female characters and portrayal of a goddamn woman and a mother i saw on TV screen since old GOT died and everyone went dumb and “girl power” crept into Westeros. Also finally some men on television with actual balls and personality on their own instead of just being an annoying shadow to female leaders. My entire household simps for Daemon because he shows whole spectrum of emotions- he is brutal, he is an ass, funny, dangerous but he also has that deep love for his family that Matt showed though his acting (picking up Vizzy’s crown)
Writing, world building, storytelling, character development and overall quality is not even close.. Maybe the one and only thing that RoP has over HoTD is a couple visuals.
If Rings of Boredom was good like HOTG it would have been an interesting comparison which would have been great because we would have been blessed with 2 great shows but we were not so lucky and got 1 great show and one truly forgettable and sickening show. There are rumors that they will re make ROP and act like this season never happened which I do not believe. Reboot all they want, I will not watch it I am done with their garbage, I might be dumb but I am not stupid. They can pay me if they want me to watch it, 🤣
Haha yeah not so much of a comparison more like a murder testimony 😅 not even close. Yeah I've read so many articles with so many talk about what will be of season 2. Guess time will tell. Hopefully there is one, I could use the content 🤣
@@NotThatNacho I will watch reviews for a laugh but I will not watch the show, Oh the part that always makes me laugh and I always forget to mention is when Guyladriel acts like the girl from Kill Bill when teaching them how to sword fight,. Kill Bill movies are in my top list lol 🤣
This video was awesome! Binging all your other videos! The little bit of bleach music you used reminded me of how good bleach was in its prime and how amazing the new episodes are, thanks for the videos 💜
I don't think the "Queen Regent" thing is that big a blunder - a Regent is just someone who rules in place of someone else incapable or deemed incapable of ruling, normally a child but could be someone infirm or mentally incapacitated. Technically if she's the King's daughter she should be the "Princess Regent", as she's not Queen yet, bit given the huge amount of other things wrong with the show I don't think it's a biggie (George IV of Britain was Prince Regent during the last years of his father George III's reign).
Interesting facts...I mean yeah, it's not the biggest problem with this show it just feels like another attempt to have a woman in a position of power just because, that's why it's stands out to me.. Plus is like you said she's ruling as queen with her father still being alive..
As for most and least favourite part of each show.. House of the Dragon: Favourite - Paddy Fucking Considine hobbling into the throne room to defend Rhaenyra. Least favourite - the battle on the Stepstones. I thought it was too short. I wanted to see Daemon kill the Crabfeeder. Rings of Power: Favourite - you losing your mind and punching the wall and that last shot of Sauron in the finale (just because he's slightly hot). Least favourite - the rest of the damn show.
Hahah and I'd like a full paid vacation on a boat with the models from maxim magazine, but we know that's not gonna happen 🤣 I agree, Paddy is a legend I didn't thought much of viserys at first and then almost cried when he died. Hopefully we'll see more battles next season.
@@NotThatNacho If I ever win the lottery, I'll sort that vacation for you. Then you'll have to do the video! 😂 Paddy was legendary in that role. I hope he wins all the awards for it. And yes, lots of dragon battles to come and I know this show is going to break my poor, devoted heart 😭
Simple: House of the Dragon is based on the writing of George R. R. Martin, a writer with actual talent. Rings of Power, on the other hand, is entirely rooted in the writing of J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay, who are both incredibly mediocre writers without the barest shred of writing talent. The only bit of creativity they’ve taken from a far superior writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, are character and place names. That’s it. They haven’t used a single line of dialogue or even a smidgeon of plot developed by Tolkien. The matchup should’ve been Martin Vs. Tolkien, which Martin would’ve lost hard. But that’s not the matchup we got. We got Martin Vs Payne/McKay, and that wasn’t a fight at all. Martin Vs. Random Pre-K3 Kid would’ve been a more serious matchup.
Hahah true, yeah that's why I didn't want to lean into the books to much, cause if we judge writing skills the 2 monkeys are way over their heads. But I do feel HoD also did pretty good work with the other aspects of the show, which is basically comes to good producing
@@NotThatNacho Yeah, even outside of the writing and purely in the shows, we see the vast difference in competence between the two. For one, House of the Dragon was brilliantly cast and everyone in it is perfect for their role. Rings of Power, however, has possibly the most mediocre cast I’ve ever seen in any tv show. It’s breathtaking how many straight up bad actors they assembled for it to play major roles, primarily Morfydd.
@@NotThatNacho haha good one I hope you win, really well made video. Probably a month too late though, there's already a lot of videos covering most of what you've said unfortunately
@@kelvinb16 haha I hope so too, glad you liked it. Pretty hard to compete with channels that have editors on a hamster wheel the moment the episodes end but hey, at least it's out there 🤷🏽♂️
Well, duh. The creator is still around to directly help. Rop relies on artists reinterpreting work of a genius and that's almost never possible to the degree die-hards will accept. Simple
I remember when people compared Got to Lotr and Martin to Tolkien. What a joke. GoT can't be compared to Lotr after that garbage 8th season. Martin is nothing compared to Tolkien. He acts like a Hollywood woke producer now. This 2 shows matter little. They just came out in the same time...
Damn, that obsession with point out as woke to the slightly things that hurt feelings. Woke is now and abstract shapeless concept that people can use to cry about. What a weak persons this society produces.
Hotd is a tiers above ROP this is beyond doubt. But it has chinks in the armor. Saying that they made House Velaryon black for the people to keep up is severely underestimating the intelligence of the audience. We gotta admit this is a box check of representatation.
HOD is undeniably better than rop but i still can't fucking stand it. It's oozing from every crack with progressive/SJW talking points it's just more subtle about it. There's a good story in there somewhere but there's way too many wink wink nudge nudge moments in it.
Yes there's plenty of it in that regard but they do tell a waay better story, and the female characters actually come out as females and not as dickless dudes, same with the men. And I feels like GoT. So in the age of SJW bull it's better than the blatant in your face "message" that some other shows are
In Rings of power I forgot there was still another episode. In House of Dragons I forgot it ended in episode 10.
I agree, HoTD and RoP are not even on the same level of writing it is actually funny to witness. It is like comparing a dissertation to a high school paper
One thing i liked about the Velarion's being black, is that it made Rhaenyra infidelity more evident and outrageous.
True, even Alicent makes a snarky comment about it
HOTD is wiping the floor with not just RoP but with everything that comes out these days xD awesome vid man !
Which is the case when you actully put effort in your show haha thanks, glad you like it!!
@@NotThatNacho Yeah. I'm shocked how cocky Ryan&George were with the first season, doing time jumps and recasting like it's nothing and totally pull it off. I can't express how happy HOTD made me after the utter disappointment of GoT season 8. Made me start my channel finally... BTW the car crashing the melon Oberyn joke xD
Yes. But still better call saul is also another great show .
I'll put that on the same lvl also.
@@Noone91875 yeah I heard a lot of good things, probably gonna binge that next
The Rings of Power made me Love Season 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones more
They made me like the Hobbit 😂 *insert Thanos meme
Nah! S8 is just so disappointing .
It almost crushed my love for the Martin's world. HotD revived it and make me rewatch got.
Though ROP does the same thing but not because i liked it but because i want to forget ROP. also want to be reminded that why Tolkien's work is famous.
It's really ironic, and a tale of opposites.
I absolutely loved GOT up until the last few seasons. But then came season 8... I was so pissed off (trying to keep it clean) at the direction the show (writing) went. I was totally DONE with anything Game of Thrones! I felt like my GF was cheating on me. I felt violated.
Lord Of The Rings, I equally loved, I even enjoyed The Hobbit... mostly. I couldn't wait for the next installment of Tolkien's works to hit the screen. Then, I heard about Amazon taking up the challenge, and I was totally on board!!! Rings of Power... Hell yeah! Go Bezos!
Fast forward to today. Keeping it short because we all know the who, what, and why's... Rings of Power is dead to me.
And I can't wait for season 2 of House Of The Dragon. Yes, there is a sprinkle of identity politics, but it was done with finesse, it feels organic, and it makes sense. So I don't have an issue with it.
Make up sex is the best hey? haha yeah i'm the same. I was gutted (like Daenerys lol) with the last season of got but was pleasantly surprised with HoD. and RoP, we know how i l feel about it. Maybe this will inspire PJ will feel the need to put the directing cap once more and he'll get a nice thick budget, i mean if this guys got a bil..
@@NotThatNacho Unfortunately, ROP make-up sex is Amazon bending you over and sticking it to you... Again!
@@ardent963 hey, so people on the internet liked it 🤣🤣
@@NotThatNacho Uhhhh... yeah. And I'm a French Super Model. 😂
Because the writers loved HOTD. The writers for Ring loved themselves.
Great discussion as always - I find your summaries fair and enlightening. You deserve at least ten times more subscribers.
Thanks so much!! Tell your friends 😏 haha
The dragons in HOD had better character development! You knew exactly what Vahgar’s story was better than the stiff of an actress playing Duladriel.
Lol you're so right, i care more about Vaghar and Caraxes than i do half the characters of RoP 😂 imagine being less interesting that a cgi dragon who doesn't speak
people relate to a character's personality traits, not their race or skin color
Exactly!
Nice work - its pretty obvious that ROP is unsalvageable. It sucks to wait 2 years for the next season of HOD.
True, but it's good to know they are doing things well. So it's worth the wait. Glad you liked the vid!!
I know ROP season 2 is 2 years away... HOTD S2 is also 2 years away?
@@ardent963 I believe so, HoD production is set to begin early 2023 and should be out 2024
@@NotThatNacho I was hoping it would be the standard 1 season per year. If HOTD had been on season 3, when season 2 of ROP came out, it would have been the headshot to end the match. Game over. GG. Who's next. I mean, way more than it's already winning the battle for the fans.
@@ardent963 I mean, HoD has everything set to go straight into a season 2, RoP has to rebuilt the mess they made and doesn't have the fans to back them up..I think the game ended a while ago 😅
Alicent and Rey are one of the best female characters and portrayal of a goddamn woman and a mother i saw on TV screen since old GOT died and everyone went dumb and “girl power” crept into Westeros. Also finally some men on television with actual balls and personality on their own instead of just being an annoying shadow to female leaders. My entire household simps for Daemon because he shows whole spectrum of emotions- he is brutal, he is an ass, funny, dangerous but he also has that deep love for his family that Matt showed though his acting (picking up Vizzy’s crown)
girl power? GOT never died
Can’t we petition RUclips to promote your channel wtf this needs more subs
I would highly support that pettition 😏 and thank you
The intro had NO right to be that funny 🤣🤣
It surely didn't 😎 lol
awesome thumbnail man! Definitely got me to click. Keep up the good work bud
Cheers brother!!
Writing, world building, storytelling, character development and overall quality is not even close..
Maybe the one and only thing that RoP has over HoTD is a couple visuals.
If Rings of Boredom was good like HOTG it would have been an interesting comparison which would have been great because we would have been blessed with 2 great shows but we were not so lucky and got 1 great show and one truly forgettable and sickening show.
There are rumors that they will re make ROP and act like this season never happened which I do not believe. Reboot all they want, I will not watch it I am done with their garbage, I might be dumb but I am not stupid. They can pay me if they want me to watch it, 🤣
Haha yeah not so much of a comparison more like a murder testimony 😅 not even close.
Yeah I've read so many articles with so many talk about what will be of season 2. Guess time will tell.
Hopefully there is one, I could use the content 🤣
@@NotThatNacho I will watch reviews for a laugh but I will not watch the show, Oh the part that always makes me laugh and I always forget to mention is when Guyladriel acts like the girl from Kill Bill when teaching them how to sword fight,. Kill Bill movies are in my top list lol 🤣
@@alexgeorge2993 Kill bill is a classic! ..and when it comes to laughs, I got chu 😎👍🏼
perfect opening scene to describe these two ips
Glad you like it
This video was awesome! Binging all your other videos! The little bit of bleach music you used reminded me of how good bleach was in its prime and how amazing the new episodes are, thanks for the videos 💜
Cheers!! Yeah the new bleach looks bangin'!!
This is so underated! Superb!
Grazie 🥸
I don't think the "Queen Regent" thing is that big a blunder - a Regent is just someone who rules in place of someone else incapable or deemed incapable of ruling, normally a child but could be someone infirm or mentally incapacitated. Technically if she's the King's daughter she should be the "Princess Regent", as she's not Queen yet, bit given the huge amount of other things wrong with the show I don't think it's a biggie (George IV of Britain was Prince Regent during the last years of his father George III's reign).
Interesting facts...I mean yeah, it's not the biggest problem with this show it just feels like another attempt to have a woman in a position of power just because, that's why it's stands out to me..
Plus is like you said she's ruling as queen with her father still being alive..
She never was a regent in the lore
Nacho, I want the 3 hour book-accurate video! 🤣
As for most and least favourite part of each show..
House of the Dragon: Favourite - Paddy Fucking Considine hobbling into the throne room to defend Rhaenyra. Least favourite - the battle on the Stepstones. I thought it was too short. I wanted to see Daemon kill the Crabfeeder.
Rings of Power: Favourite - you losing your mind and punching the wall and that last shot of Sauron in the finale (just because he's slightly hot). Least favourite - the rest of the damn show.
Hahah and I'd like a full paid vacation on a boat with the models from maxim magazine, but we know that's not gonna happen 🤣
I agree, Paddy is a legend I didn't thought much of viserys at first and then almost cried when he died. Hopefully we'll see more battles next season.
@@NotThatNacho If I ever win the lottery, I'll sort that vacation for you. Then you'll have to do the video! 😂
Paddy was legendary in that role. I hope he wins all the awards for it. And yes, lots of dragon battles to come and I know this show is going to break my poor, devoted heart 😭
@@jenni5104 haha deal 🤝🏼
Just like me an Oberyn, never get attached 😭
@@NotThatNacho I always get attached. I even cry when book characters I like die. 😭😂
I love that death note theme on the background at 7:00
So exhaustively 😎🤙
GOT season8 was way better than rings of power let’s be honest
100%.. In comparison S8 is almost a masterpiece 😂
I’m too pissed at Amazon to watch a second season of ROP. I’m not subscribed to HBO. Yet. Based on this review, I should be.
Haha yeah, subscription 😅 I totally see all my stuff on the proper channel ☠️🦜
Great materiał! Why you have so little subscribers?😮
Jeffrey B put me on a list for talking trash about his show.. should change in a few months
😬👍🏼
Is this you’re second channel
Main channel 😬
Ok I'm super late lol but did I just hear some Bleach ost in this video? I need to know if you like it 🤣
Bleach? Never heard of it 😂.. New season is looking so good..
@@NotThatNacho 🤣❤️ I knoooow! I've been loving everything so far!
Simple: House of the Dragon is based on the writing of George R. R. Martin, a writer with actual talent.
Rings of Power, on the other hand, is entirely rooted in the writing of J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay, who are both incredibly mediocre writers without the barest shred of writing talent. The only bit of creativity they’ve taken from a far superior writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, are character and place names. That’s it. They haven’t used a single line of dialogue or even a smidgeon of plot developed by Tolkien.
The matchup should’ve been Martin Vs. Tolkien, which Martin would’ve lost hard. But that’s not the matchup we got. We got Martin Vs Payne/McKay, and that wasn’t a fight at all. Martin Vs. Random Pre-K3 Kid would’ve been a more serious matchup.
Hahah true, yeah that's why I didn't want to lean into the books to much, cause if we judge writing skills the 2 monkeys are way over their heads.
But I do feel HoD also did pretty good work with the other aspects of the show, which is basically comes to good producing
@@NotThatNacho Yeah, even outside of the writing and purely in the shows, we see the vast difference in competence between the two. For one, House of the Dragon was brilliantly cast and everyone in it is perfect for their role. Rings of Power, however, has possibly the most mediocre cast I’ve ever seen in any tv show. It’s breathtaking how many straight up bad actors they assembled for it to play major roles, primarily Morfydd.
@@ThorOdinson 100%, them lacking in all those areas just sends you back to the same thing "yo, you had a billion dollars for this"
@@NotThatNacho There’s no way they spent a billion. Someone has to be skimming a couple hundred million dollars off the top.
Dope video man
Cheers!
Some good ideas, but quite a bit of sexism as well. Ironically, against men.
DnD would have done way better
You are so beautiful
I don't know why but I feel like I've seen this video already 🤔
I do happen to have a twin who talks and edits the same way I do, we're currently in a rivalry to the death.
@@NotThatNacho haha good one I hope you win, really well made video. Probably a month too late though, there's already a lot of videos covering most of what you've said unfortunately
@@kelvinb16 haha I hope so too, glad you liked it. Pretty hard to compete with channels that have editors on a hamster wheel the moment the episodes end but hey, at least it's out there 🤷🏽♂️
"But Memberberries"
Hahaha the memberberries 😂
And yet, neither outmatched their predecessors
In case of RoP it didn't came close, and yeah HoD not AS hype as early GoT but still pretty good, will have to see what S2 is like
Well, duh. The creator is still around to directly help. Rop relies on artists reinterpreting work of a genius and that's almost never possible to the degree die-hards will accept.
Simple
I remember when people compared Got to Lotr and Martin to Tolkien.
What a joke.
GoT can't be compared to Lotr after that garbage 8th season.
Martin is nothing compared to Tolkien. He acts like a Hollywood woke producer now.
This 2 shows matter little.
They just came out in the same time...
Damn, that obsession with point out as woke to the slightly things that hurt feelings. Woke is now and abstract shapeless concept that people can use to cry about. What a weak persons this society produces.
@@ST-oi3sf Just like americans call you "nazi" if you step on theirs toe or late from a date?
@@riveraharper8166 Yes, exactly, all of them are a bunch of crybabies that want the world to burn because someone hurt their feelings.
Both are absolute rubbish that struggle with even basic dialogue let alone huge multiple perspective narratives.
ur mom
🤡🤡
Hotd is a tiers above ROP this is beyond doubt. But it has chinks in the armor. Saying that they made House Velaryon black for the people to keep up is severely underestimating the intelligence of the audience. We gotta admit this is a box check of representatation.
HOD is undeniably better than rop but i still can't fucking stand it. It's oozing from every crack with progressive/SJW talking points it's just more subtle about it.
There's a good story in there somewhere but there's way too many wink wink nudge nudge moments in it.
Yes there's plenty of it in that regard but they do tell a waay better story, and the female characters actually come out as females and not as dickless dudes, same with the men. And I feels like GoT.
So in the age of SJW bull it's better than the blatant in your face "message" that some other shows are
you sound like such a little whiney bitch