Practicing Astrology Professionally: Becoming an Astrologer
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2021
- Episode 306 features a discussion with astrologer Claire Moon about the process of making the transition into practicing astrology professionally, and some considerations for becoming a full-time astrologer.
Over the past few years Claire has made the transition to practicing astrology full-time and making that her primary career, and so we sat down to discuss what that has been like and talk about some things people should think about if they are considering making that transition.
Parts of the discussion also centered around what it is like to be a normal person who practices astrology, and how it can be kind of tricky sometimes interacting with people or institutions in your life who may view that as a weird thing.
For more information about Claire check out her website:
www.aligninglightastrology.com
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Let us know if you have any questions about practicing astrology professionally or making the switch to doing it full-time!
I am interested in hearing the business side of it. Setting up tools like calendly, figuring out what needs to be done in terms of setting it up as a business (financial/tax logistics) etc.
I am interested in knowing how much I could charge to start with, the propects of consultations numbers (week, month) and how are the best ways and styles of promoting myself. I guess these questions have a unique asnwer to my own situation other than general, so that I don't think you would asnwer them by doing a podcast or maybe if you do that won't be so straight forward. Thanks.
Can we have the link to your course Chris? Ty this channel.
Do you recommend spending money on advertising?
@@divinelyearthy5091 Sure, the Professional Astrologer Course mentioned in this episode is here: courses.theastrologyschool.com/courses/the-professional-astrologer-course
petition for Chris to start an astrology commune
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Yes!
I fourth the motion!
Claire has two special assets: first, she's so real: no hype, just help; second, I just now realized what a great NAME she has for an astrologer!
That is so kind, thank you! My pseudonym came well before I fell in love with astrology, so I got lucky!
Please record your book as an audiobook! For myself, with the availability of podcasts like yours in recent years, (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) I've attuned my brain gradually more towards listening to material while commuting to work, etc and then, later (esp. if for learning purposes), re-listening while taking notes. And, I'm sure it's a ton of work, but it would be fantastic if you narrated it yourself. You have a great speaking voice! Thanks to you both for an amazing episode 💙
So neded right now. I want to quit my corporate job to work full time as an astrologer. Best synchronicity ever. Thank you!
Very worth mentioning that “coming out” as an astrologer can still feel genuinely dangerous for some folks-physically as well as socially-depending on how conservative or extreme their stance is against divination/astrology
Another important role of an astrologer is therapist/counselor… how to deliver the reading in the most sensitive and appropriate way and give council
…. *counsel when clients are experiencing difficulties
This is a worry of mine. My bedside manner needs a lot of work.
@Renee M This is such a great question and I'm glad to see the community engaging with these topics more. For anyone else who is reading and might be interested in how I approach this:
First things first: know what your limitations and strengths/weaknesses are as a consulting astrologer. Be honest with yourself and your client.
If the client seems like they are in an ok headspace to receive such a recommendation, I will gently just name or identify that which I am unqualified to pursue. For instance, if something comes up that could benefit from a therapist, I say "This is such an important point/topic/situation to explore, but I would be out of my lane going deeper with it. I think you might benefit from seeing someone specifically trained in counseling who could better explore this further with you." Or something like that. I think that approach makes it plain that it's me that has the limitation, and that they aren't wrong for bringing that topic up. I don't want to give the impression that just because I'm not qualified to go there, that it is still super important for the client to pursue.
We need to be sensitive to the person, timing, their mood, client/provider rapport at the moment, and words we use to describe things. I try to mirror the language my clients use, as even diagnosis words like "depression" and "therapy" can trigger folks into defensiveness because those words are so stigmatized.
Timestamps
9:37 " The Astrology Lingo"
12:10 " Astronomy, Biographies, Healers, Philosophers, Artists in Astrology"
23:30 "50% books(knowledge), 50% experience (wisdom)"
57:07 "The Advice"
1:02:28 " An Audiobook? He's Asking For Comments"
1:12:07 "Survive in the field"
1:30:53 "Check it out" (a video titled ' Is there a political dimension to being an Astrologer')
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Great video, thank you! I think the Audiobook would be very interesting and help others create ideas and become inspired more.
Seems as though a few of us are finding the timing of this video to be aligning pretty well with our current energies or hopes. My lovely sag rising boyfriend does not understand astrology at all but supports my love and study of it and is always trying to help me find potential ways to make it my career one day. Lately he's been spitting out all kinds of ideas and really helping me feel confident I'll be headed the professional astrologer route at some point. So excited to watch this. 😊
I hope you did it! ❤
Take the leap! After 18 years, I've noted some things about clients (not initially known to me personally), especially returning ones:
I have strong connections between my chart and theirs; they arrive in "threes" or more with something in their charts I am currently studying in depth; and - as the years go on, and I personally experience more Jupiter, Saturn and outer planet transits - I have more concrete experience/advice to share with clients who are struggling with those same transits. I can honestly tell them they're going to be fine and give suggestions for coping without groping.
If you know you are meant to astrologize, there are people destined and waiting to meet you and only you. YOU are THEIR astrologer, yay!
Thank you for this :)
Super interested in the audiobook.
You could have co narrators to shoulder the load maybe?
This is so inspiring im in the medical field and have been taking kelly’s beginner classes. When i tell people i want to do astrology on the side they stare at me like i have five heads, good to know it is possible and to push through!
I would love it if you did an audio book! Would definitely buy even though I have the physical copy already.
Great ideal!
I just moved to Denver 2 weeks ago from Minnesota (the community here is Amazing and I am so blessed to be immersed with like minds. Minnesota it was harder to feel the warmth from others about coming out as an astrologer) and cant wait for you to come back to the Mercury Cafe it is my new favorite spot! I am so giddy to meet you and Lisa in person. You have been a staple in my astrology upbringing. I came out here to become a professional astrologer and healer. And just today I had my first paid gig!
I have been trying to make this transition to doing astrology professionally by offering free services to my friends by writing out and explaining their chart this way. It does take a long time and I see people charging such little money for that service. I can’t imagine making that little money for something that takes me hours and hours. It’s good to hear that it’s not advised haha
I’m doing exactly the same. It’s been so exhausting to do the search, the writing an then the video call 😓. How are you handling it so far?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't do more than one client a day. That made me feel a lot better, thanks lol
Such a joyous episode, I loved Claire's vibe. Thank you for introducing her to me.. and others!
Great program. I do want to be an astrologer and this made me want to do a consultation with Claire, as you yourself are booked for a while to come. So informative and fun too. Thanks
Thank you Chris for this episode. I am currently an astrology student and this was very helpful, informative and fun to listen to. I hope to take your course on becoming a professional astrologer soon. I would love it if you continued to create more episodes on the business of astrology! 🙌
Thank you, Chris!
I'm exploring how much of astrology to bring into my tarot practice. It's still in the early stages but I'm finding myself completely drawn into merging astrology into my tarot practice.
I've been self-employed for about 25 yrs. with a background in photo production.
I'm truly grateful to apply the business side of self employment into building clients and knowing the best investments to make.
Though, I will see how much of this I will expand into for a steady business.
There are hundreds of spiritual practitioners and astrologers who are working Full Time and only a small percentage get the recognition for their efforts.
I do appreciate hearing the experience those have had while transitioning into Astrology, especially coming from a different career background.
Oh my fuuukkkkkkkk, I am typing a natal chart explanation (I include an hour session and a hand drawn chart when we go over it) for 100, I am over 6 hours and will probably put in close to 13-16 before I'm done and it's NOT sustainable. This is with using copy pastes of some prescripted explanations for planets, signs and houses.... Yes! I will take the price down and take out the written portion!!! So fricken glad I am watching this rn.
I enjoyed this so much! I appreciate how Chris takes the most complicated theories and makes them simple for the rest of us, and i always appreciate the light sense of humor. Thank you for the information.
This was great! I love it that the astrology community is full of such genuine and kind people
I really loved this chat, and Claire is just excellent!! So straightforward, honest and concise. I love her mind. Please bring her back soon!
Great episode! I have watched the signs planets and houses so many times!! It was those episodes that prompted me to buy my Astro folder and start taking notes. Looking forward to doing your course bundle Chris 😊
A huge YES to audio book ✨♥️🌈
Lovely lady and a supportive encouraging message to the anxious astrologers out there.
Thank you very much Chris and Claire! I loved hearing Claire's thoughts on disclosure/non-disclosure of her astrological career to loved ones and professional colleagues. It is so cool to hear from people who walk between the worlds of science and metaphysics... I love a good crossover :) Appreciate your time and all the best.
I love the idea of an audiobook, Chris! I am one of those who will plug in a book and listen all day long! You have the perfect voice for it, too! Thank you for this great podcast, also. Claire is refreshing and delightful and will do very well! I am so grateful for you and your amazing guests!
Pausing to comment: As a budding and aspiring astrologer, I really appreciate this. I also love the nuanced conversation around the fact that astrology doesn't equal new age, even if it is used by folks who like new age stuff (like me) and that you were both so incredibly tactful. Great episode so far. Excited to keep finishing it.
This was so insightful! Thank you for your time and spirit 💚😊
Thank you! I am looking to book astrology clients. This helps with my confidence in making the leap!
Lot of nuggets. Thanks for clarifying the value in consult vs. written.
I appreciated this❤️ Especially the financial aspects and including talking about student loans
Yes audio book would be amazing I can't wait!
This was everything. Thank you. Love you guys.
Such a wealth of information within this interview- thank you.
48 mins in and I'm loving this. Thanks Chris and Claire 😎🤓👍🏻
1:17:50 Bam! Thank you! You just answered a question I’ve been debating for some time now...thanks this awesome convo 👏🏼
This is where I can make a difference! Astrology is where I am going to be. Independent study started diligently just over a year ago. I start 1st class Sunday.
I'm interested in it all. Applying it in different sectors- medical Astrology, psychological Astrology, forensic Astrology, geological Astrology?... History of Astrology, theoretical practices of Astrology, metaphysical & nature connections. 🤯
Natal Mercury conjunct Pluto these years... ready to learn the language, or go mad trying... 🧐
Thank you so much for this podcast. I'm retiring from work soon and considering a transition to professional astrology (even though I still feel like a beginner) and this was so so useful for me to start kicking myself up the butt to start the wheels moving! Got my first consult tomorrow - a friend off Facebook but all the same, it's a start!
Amazing content! Thanks!
Loved this! Thank you both so much
Great episode Chris!!!
Please more info like this! Bravo!!
Thanks Chris!
Kathleen M
This was really helpful. Thankyou to you both 😎👍🏻
Yes to an audiobook! Please
So, I am (for the second time, but that's another story) starting to gear up for going pro, and what does the Cosmos show me? Three videos about this from Acyuta-bhava, then this. It's a siiiiiiiign
I suppose it’s the age-old question, when am I good enough to charge for my work? How much can I commit to astrology vs playing it safe with a regular paycheck at a job?
My biggest hesitation!
Totally I've been studying astrology for over 10 years and I don't feel ready
Came across this episode in June 2021. I’ve been a subscriber for awhile, and I’m joining in with others who say this one is coming up when I’m being more serious about developing my astrology work in a professional way.
The piece about leading yourself through all this without much hand holding... I really relate to this. I find myself really craving a syllabus and a college-esque education map about this. I want to feel like I graduated and took time/earned my ability to do this for others who pay me. There's a lot of grappling with overwhelm and imposter syndrome.
So informative! Thank you both! 💝
Chris, pls do the audiobook - iIt'll help me finish your book! 🙃
Looking back at 1999, I understand that this was a big reason for me to split up with my boyfriend at that time. He just did not take me seriously about 'my stars'. But I was ahead of my time.
Super useful, thanks!
Great episode! I am thinking of transitioning into astrology from the medical field. I have a genuine passion for the metaphysical field. My own personal placements say I would make a great astrologer!
I was through pretty much the same path as Claire, I am a Chemist. That´s kind of funny to see it´s quite common to see science-based professionals very enthusiastic about astrology and later developing astrology professionally as the science it actually is. Thank you for this podcast!
I feel so encouraged ❤️
Please consider the audiobook. For people like me, it's a great supplement to reading the book!
I wish I had taken Astrology in high school when we could have voted it in as an elective. But I didn’t.
Astrology should be taught as something that everyone should practice. But not everyone has the ability to get beyond the social bias perpetrators that want it kept so secret.
I have found that when one learns how to read the chart and how to look it up in the available books one can read enough to answer the questions one wants answered. After forty years of mentioning it most people wouldn’t do the work if their life depended on it.
I think teaching people how to read their own charts is the most important thing anyone can do.
Chris, if there's ever an audio version of your book, you have to narrate yourself!
Hi Chris. I was just thinking yesterday that it would be amazing if you had your book in audio version. I look forward to it! I am on my path to becoming a professional astrologer. I began taking your Hellenistic Astrology course last month and immediately felt like I had taken many steps forward on my path to becoming a professional astrologer just by purchasing your Hellenistic Astrology course. I now feel more confident on my path to becoming a professional astrologer. I would like to make the switch to practicing astrology full time as soon as I finish your Hellenistic Astrology course. Thank you for your amazing knowledge Chris.
“Facebook is a wasteland”, truer words have never been spoken 👍
I just sent a link to this video to a relative to whom I'm gifting with a reading by an astrologer of his choice. Two good choices here!
Hello from Iran.. considering that many people are used to your voice, listening to your book's audio version would be both enjoying and useful
Thanks. Useful.
I also come from a scientific (neuroscience) background & focus, actually will start a PhD in Biomedical Engineering and work with stem cells later this year. Having studied Hellenistic for a year and a half through Astrology Podcast and Acyuta-bhava Das courses, I recently started doing pay-what-you-want birth chart readings, to begin collecting that other 50% of learning. I have worked as a support worker in the community, and am about to finish a year-long counselling skills course, which has been super helpful to learn how to hold space and thread more difficult symbols gently. I do want to be the Renaissance-person for sure. Sag rising + Mercury and Sun in Virgo = I want to be the jack of all trades, master of all! haha x
I also love seeing many connections with science and astrology - they share the Hermetic nature, the sense of there being the inner logic, the fact that by learning about the ingredients and possible mechanisms on one level, you learn something about the other layers of the whole.
I do use a pseudonym - Medis - it means 'Tree' in Lithuanian, my mother tongue. I wouldn't mind changing my actual name to Medis, so I suppose it works out with the existential conundrum of juggling two different identities. Also, I practice as an artist and Medis is primarily for my creative works, so tagging the astrology feels organic and also, coincidentally, socially acceptable - if anyone asks, I study the ancient philosophies and astrological systems and things like Tarot for artistic performances and inspiration x
I would love an audio book. I would buy it on top of the print edition, because audio processing is very helpful, and I could listen to it while doing other chores.
The audio book would be great for dyslexic people or people with sight issues, for accessibility x
An audiobook would be great for those of us that are visually disabled. It would help those that have low vision or fully blind l, be able to join in on the conversation. That diversity helps add to the discussions in the field.
One of the most exciting things that happened to me was when a psychiatrist asked me for insights as to his chart. I remember when I added "astrology" to my facebook profile where previous colleagues and students from the Academia could see it I felt completely naked. It was the hardest closet to come out of but it paid off. Always exciting to see sciency people in this field.
I second that about the signs houses and planets series of the cast. I believe that is how I got up here too and it was a next phase of deepening my commitment to astrology.
As to the word "coming out as" - well hiding your identity and passion, whichever it is can cause poor ability to set boundaries in your entire life. So I would not be so dismissive of any closet even if it is not lgbtq closet. It is still fear of losing friends, jobs, connections and reputation as a scientist or a thinker. It is still psychological struggle that affects your health and wellbeing. The words "coming out as" describe exactly the feeling and experience of exposing yourself as an astrologer. This does not take anything away from lgbtq struggle. We are not in competition over who is struggling more, we are aiming to create an open discourse and heal.
Thank you! This was so inspiring. Just a quick note about student loans… if you are on income-based repayment you should be able to contact your loan servicer the minute your income changes and they should be able to lower your payment! I am sorry this probably comes too late for you Claire! :)
I appreciate your good work Chris. A new episode on a Hellenistic Astrology topic would be great. Maybe a topic that is more neglected.
Her hair style is considered radical for Wisconsin, but for LA, she’s pretty mild 😎
Want to learn more and be able to accurately do it
I tire of people asking me to tell them everything about themselves. That’s why I suggest that as astrologers we should let them read about themselves and let them come to the astrologers to help find deeper questions as they get int it more.
Do the audiobook!!
This was fun, I just picked a random shorter episode to pass some time and really enjoyed it while finding some of it interesting in terms of new.
Possibly a subconscious choice because I’m unconsciously wondering why my mind is making me study astrology when I don’t want to be an astrologer.
Interesting parts: I’m sort of finding I’m reaching that “narrow down” stage where I’m finding specific interests while also surprised stigmas exist with astrology still. I have friends in Portland that went heavy into activism and social injustice to the deep end realm where a friend who’s a psychiatrist moved to Portland (her partner was hired at the university of Portland) relocating from San Fran (she’s lived in many states) where she said it’s because oregon is one of the most racist and bigoted states in the union. It’s easy to mistake an environment for the entire world. Related….
Much of what was stated I wouldn’t have issues with having a gemini MC, staying in one realm would drive me insane while the focus has been Leo r Mercury 12th related to zodiacal release. 20 plus years of that is like going on vacation and finding the house has burned down, I’ve been very detached and remote. I’ve been more about life simplification running wild with that Mercury not knowing what’s up in very gemini fashion. With what was discussed about anxiety, imagine going from that focus to an 11th cancer Jupiter; unbelievably disorienting where it’ll take a while to get footing so I probably shouldn’t be dismissive where astrology isn’t moving towards some form of getting into actual astrology of some sort. That 12th haze is still lingering.
I’m the type where a friend would ask an astrological question where I may not actually respond to it for 3 years. 😆 I just did that today so it’s hard for me to imagine actually engaging in any type of astrological readings. I’ve also been mildly opposed to too much direct contact with others because of said life simplification. I’ve been more engaged in more chaotic studying where “normal” is too overwhelming. Once the “John was out with Mary and Gary said this then Lisa said that then left without paying the bill where Jeremy was rude to …” too much drama.
Oddly, the weirder parts of astrology are where I’m finding the most interest where practical application may take a while. I’ve pushed back some astrologers (in terms of studying) for a brief period because (coincidentally) I want to stay more focused as opposed to the gemini period where it was all over the place. Due to what was mixed with astrology (Jung, watts, various other philosophers and so on) it’ll likely be mythic and my biggest draw is Tarnas be it richard and/or Becca while it’s likely I may go off in interest in a really weird angle. An issue with Jungian and generally academic approaches isn’t a flaw, it’s an outward perception where it can make these subjects seem overly intellectual (as if you have to be incredibly sophisticated to understand something) when, really, it’s just about everyday experiences we all have. Jung can seem esoteric and mystical describing mystical rituals; it’s just the language and wording. Astrology can have the same issue. Something stated also, when others said I had “prophetic dreams” I’d make fun of it, but I did find when discussing it I’d break it all down by what external contents shaped that internal dream regardless of anything prophetic.
One dream, riots and an spreading respiratory disease where the sick “zombies” just wanted left alone being attacked by healthy people believing they were being attacked as self fulfilling prophecy with it being instigated by a huge arachnid hiding in the shadows in a corner under the stairs wearing safety padding and a face shield helmet/mask (it’s still funny today)… the zombie archetype in movies were just starting, dawn of the dead remake was released. The disease, the original Cabin Fever was released a couple years earlier where a person caught a common virus where college kids (instead of helping them) panicked beating, shooting, and catching the poor guy on fire getting everyone killed instead of being calm and driving him to the hospital. The arachnid? Probably LotR’s. Safety equipment? Likely an SNL sketch with Mike Meyers where his parents put him in safety pads with a bungee chord related to “helicopter parenting”, I had no knowledge of astrology then but technically the scorpio Pluto generation with probably a strong mars are old enough to be heavily influencing the media placing that anxiety and strategic activism in news/media causing unnecessary social conflict. Manic vaccine panic on both sides is oddly prophetic, but also not since I can lay out linear dream symbol influences.
I’ll admit, part of my putting off deep diving into Becca Tarnas’s work is because she goes into a weird realm I’ll uncomfortably get into where I know what she’s actually saying. Some is just terminology that sounds mystical, some is actually unexplainable phenomenon like feeling like you’ve read a book before the first time reading it. Me, recognizing at like 4 that adults live in a fantasy constructed world that’s potentially dangerous by believing it’s objective reality.
As of now, I want yo study the lots (especially spirit) because I think there’s something important there that’s life enriching that’s definitely an uncomfortable subject. If my uranus transit was that weird, who knows how absolutely bizarre it’ll be when Neptune goes out of pisces hitting that lot of spirit.
Claire has been a wonderful guest in each episode she’s been in.
Gemini MC.. I’d be the one to start talking about astrology with a hypothetical client and suddenly start talking about sea turtles. If it was a cancer chart type person maybe it’d make sense.
Hi, thanks for this video. I'm just starting my first year of study of Ancient Astrology. There is so much to learn, and I wonder sometimes how much do I need to study before I get my head around everything and start reading charts confidently! I was also thinking if it is advisable to learn astrology with different teachers?
Hi sis, Pharmarcist here also interested in astrology
@21:13 I don't know if I'm one of the "smarter" students but, I've been studying astrology for years and still haven't done one consultation. I feel like I don't know enough to give the client the best reading I can give.
This makes me want a reading from Chris (maybe after I've scrounged up enough to take his course) almost every astrologer I have met is confounded by my constant traveling and early intentional estrangement from my biological relatives as a Cancer stellium, Venus in Gemini, Aries rising at 15'
I believe it's got something to do with my third house being jammed full since most of the moves are in the same general area before making a leap of about 1-3,000 miles and then jumping around again. 🤔
Aries rising and venus in gemini should not have them confused by this. I find that the sea of ordinary (or not very good) astrologers is huge. But very few are actually truly nuanced. Everything can be seen in the chart somewhat....so if they aren't seeing that, yikes!
Do the audiobook.
Hey what's up guys I'm a Taurus, Leo rising, and Aquarius moon :))
IK THESE SIGNS ARE SO UNIQUE FROM EACH OTHER HAH
I think you have a decent voice for audiobook. Just make sure you speak in an even tone. Most services allow you to speed up or slow down but if the tone is not well paced it's hard
57:56 - anybody got a link to the course referenced here?
Every time Saturn transits one of the even houses (2, 4, 6 etc.) I feel like I’m being held done in a straight jacket. I have sun in 12th house Capricorn and about 6 months left of Saturn in my 12th house, does anyone else get this?
“If youve got a journal it eventually becomes an astrology journal”
Ive never felt so seen 🤣
Oh my God!! You just confirmed my knowledge of my husband.. DOB 2.5.1962.. I've always thought he could be the anti christ .
At 39 and need a career change, maybe I'll study to become an astrologer..
Fun fact - Besides Garth Brooks, Eddie Izard (Feb 7 1962) and Axl Rose (Feb 6 1962) have the same stellium in Aquarius with moon in Pisces. All three candidates for the anti christ. Lol
You, yourself should read your book. Perhaps famous astrologers like Rob Hand could read chapters or offer his insights!
Kathleen M
February 5 1962 is Jennifer Jason Leigh's birthday lol
Oh wow so rhis is another , lol sorry just I'm happy u guys are here. Lol I will ne busy now for a year to -? Ord knows how long lol
when she says year four is when she started, what does she mean? like she was in a program and was in her fourth year or in her fourth year of the five she has been studying?
As I understood,she was learning astrology at that time for four years.
You guys don’t have to defend doing what you love to do. Be it a window washer, a ballerina or a consultant. The world is changing and thank goodness it is! Enjoy.
It doesn't shock me that Garth Brooks is moon in Pisces Co aidering he's a vegetarian.
What's the name of astrologer ??? Does she have any channel ?
Here is the link to Claire's RUclips channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCK9K3e2zGeWeuZhge0lb05w
Q: how do you approach talking about potentially hard transits or natal alignments in your consultations? Loving this interview thank you.
Do you advertise?
If anyone from The Astrology Podcast were following my comments across the videos, they could probably guess I'd end up on this one...😏😌🙂 ✨♊⬆️♓🌞♍🌚✨
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