Sweet East London Walk - Forest Gate, Upton Park, Plaistow (4K)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @GarethHowell
    @GarethHowell 4 года назад +28

    Another thing, John. My wife tells me that Trebor started in the shed at the bottom of her great-grandmother’s house. When Trebor wanted to expand the factory, they paid for the family to move into another house in Derby Road; which is where they stayed.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +3

      fantastic note Gareth - thanks so much for sharing

    • @handlesarefeckinstupid
      @handlesarefeckinstupid Год назад

      I used to go to college next to the Trebor factory in Chesterfield. The smell of Cola Cubes used to waft over, sometimes the smell of mint imperials. My dad used to get carrier bags full of sweets from relatives that worked there, it's a shock I have any teeth

  • @joline2730
    @joline2730 2 года назад +7

    Hi everyone - this video has SO much history for me that this post would be pages long !! 🤣😀 So, going back many many years : Born in Forest Gate, lived in East Ham, went to local schools, met first boyfriend . . . etc etc. I finally left London in 2010 to go "Up Norf". But nuffink compares - I was in the street at Boleyn in 1966 to see West Ham parade the streets with the Cup ... Geoff was holding it high and Moore was standing next to him (open top bus). My sisters went to St Angela's Ursuline Convent and I went to St Anthony's. We had a lodger at one time and she worked in Trebors and used to bring a big bag of damaged sweets home for us kids every week !! Oh, so much I could tell you but haven't got all day to stay here 😀

  • @RajSinghKhalsa
    @RajSinghKhalsa 4 года назад +56

    I am a Plaistovian and proud, John walked right past my house @19.36 I wish I had known I would have come running out with refreshments, Stella Artois all round

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +9

      Fantastic Raj - our paths are sure to cross at some point

  • @andrewpaton-smith4829
    @andrewpaton-smith4829 3 месяца назад +1

    Grew up in Forest Gate, and walked past the Trebor factory almost daily - I can still smell the sweet aromas just looking at the Factory again. Great memories

  • @cloudybix
    @cloudybix 2 года назад +2

    I grew up there a long time ago. It made me cry a little.

  • @roymartin8546
    @roymartin8546 Год назад +1

    The Tesco was a pub call the Green Gate I believe was a reference to a toll gate too Epping Forrest

  • @peckinpahlady
    @peckinpahlady 4 года назад +29

    My dad was the chief maintenance engineer at Clarinocos (peppermint creams), a huge sweet factory in Carpenters Road, Stratford, from the 30s to the late 60s. When my brother left school in the early 60s he got a job at the Trebor factory. Our house was always full of sweets. It's a wonder I still have teeth!

    • @yvettewilliamselliott8851
      @yvettewilliamselliott8851 4 года назад +3

      We miss Peppermint Creams ☹️

    • @brianjordan4787
      @brianjordan4787 4 года назад +3

      @@yvettewilliamselliott8851 My nan used to work at Clarnicos. She always warned me off eating 1d Black Jacks..."they're made from floor sweepings"! Didn't put me off though.

    • @yvettewilliamselliott8851
      @yvettewilliamselliott8851 4 года назад

      Brian Jordan eeeeuw 🤢. I’m glad I never liked Black Jacks!

    • @jharris947
      @jharris947 3 года назад

      😎😅

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад

      @@brianjordan4787 Did they make fillings for the Woolworths Pick n Mix ones (as well as frys/mackintoshes?)

  • @stuartshipton5612
    @stuartshipton5612 4 года назад +29

    Plaistow born, hammers fan and love Trebor mints. Perfect film, thanks John.

  • @sobo1956
    @sobo1956 Год назад +1

    Great video John all the years i worked in East London never knew the Trebor Story and loved the walk to Upton Park my Club

  • @Normskiblue
    @Normskiblue 2 года назад +2

    Raised in East Ham now living in Wanstead. As a kid in the 70’s I used to walk for miles to the Joke Shop on Katherine Rd to buy stink bombs and peppered pastilles. My neighbour was related to the family that owned Trebor and my Nan worked as a cleaner in the Hammers social club. I’m also a hammers fan an remember by first game on a cold Boxing Day in the late 60’s watching West Ham play Man Utd featuring Bobby Moore, Geof Hurst, Martin Peters, Bobby Charlton and George Best. I took my young daughters to the Boleyn ground to experience the atmosphere on the West Ham’s final season there.

  • @alanculbert5146
    @alanculbert5146 2 года назад +2

    Hi John, what a great video. My mum and dad both were born in Forest Gate. Dad was born in Raymond Road, the youngest of 8 children. When he was around 3 years old, in 1940, my grandparents (his parents) moved the whole family to Neville Road. Some weeks later the house in Raymond Road was totally destroyed by a bomb. The whole area was subjected to an awful lot of bombing during WW2. So if they hadn't moved, I wouldn't be able to tell this tale now! So mum and dad both survived the war, fell in love at Harold Road school, and finally married in St Edmunds Church in Katherine Road in 1957. Dad would have loved to have played for West Ham, he did actually play for a whole for West Ham boys, while at school. My nan remained in Neville Road for pretty much the rest of her life. So as a young boy in the 1970s, I was taken to visit her, with some lovely family gatherings in that house. It's a fascinating area, so much history.

  • @BaronMichaelDeBlone1066
    @BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 2 года назад +1

    Trebor Sweets, now there's a find. I was a bit surprised at how many childhood memories this triggered. Great stuff!

  • @rootsquare
    @rootsquare 3 года назад +3

    Just discovered your channel and enjoying it very much.
    Regards pronunciation of certain locations:
    Plaistow is 'Plar-Stow'... when the District Line trains changed to announce the name of the station came out they pronounced it 'Play-Stow"... much to the amusement of locals... you'd often hear local passengers correcting the announcement... especially after the pubs kicked out :-)
    Everyone I know though has always pronounced Katherine Rd as 'Kath-Ryne' (the I is hard as in 'eye').

  • @impamiizgraa
    @impamiizgraa 10 месяцев назад +2

    Just as wonderful as this video are the many comments from people who have deep connections with the places you describe so well in this tour. I'm moving to Plaistow for the first time, just bought a home there, and I was a little worried I might not like the area (it's the best I could afford!); this has given me a new appreciation of it, might not be the prettiest or cleanest area, but it does have character and history. That's good enough for me! I hope people take care and take pride in where they are - videos like this could help!

  • @brendagoodley550
    @brendagoodley550 3 года назад +3

    I worked at Plaistow library for almost seven years....leaving 1965. Happy Days!

  • @peejstar
    @peejstar 4 года назад +15

    Just a quick note, having been born and growing up in the area ( I used to go in Trebors in the early 80's) us locals always pronounced it as Kath Rhine Road and Plaistow was Plarstow, no one called it Playstowe.

    • @paulm.7422
      @paulm.7422 3 года назад +6

      I lived in Park Road, then Park Avenue, East Ham and we always pronounced it Kath-Rhine Road, too. Same with "Plarstow".

    • @machiavellian7490
      @machiavellian7490 2 года назад +2

      Lol 😂 yes it’s a test of a Proppa forest gater to pronounce Katherine as kath rine!

    • @sterlingmoose9335
      @sterlingmoose9335 Год назад +1

      Always Plarstow never Playstow.

  • @jayhussain7102
    @jayhussain7102 4 года назад +11

    I've lived in east London most of my life and have lived in Forest Gate for near 20 years and I have learnt a few things from this video. West Ham football club supporters used to be a bit crazy, I remember once being caught in traffic near Upton Park Station and the fans were walking on top of cars. There used to be food stalls everywhere and the pubs used to be full to the brim. The club move has really had a huge impact on the economy of those pubs sadly some have closed.

  • @devo7079
    @devo7079 3 года назад +2

    Some of the film 1984 was filmed just of balaam street plaistow and the Human Leauge did a video for their fascinating song where they painted a massive house bright red in plaistow.

  • @j.newham6284
    @j.newham6284 4 года назад +9

    Im a Plaistow resident for the last 20 years, born in Spain but living in London for 28y. and I consider myself a Plastovian, love the area and his history. Love the video!!

  • @paulobrien6378
    @paulobrien6378 3 года назад +2

    Great film the Irish guy was my dad 🤣 I used to live in forestgate miss the old days and the hammers changed so much my Dad 1 of the last few remaining thanks again

  • @PVAPPE
    @PVAPPE 4 года назад +39

    “From one national icon to another...” - presented by John Rogers, who deserves similar recognition! Thank you for yet another fantastic and informative video, Mr Rogers.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +2

      that's incredibly kind of you - I love making these videos and people taking the time to watch them is very humbling

  • @jacquigrint8773
    @jacquigrint8773 4 года назад +4

    My mum used to work at trebor packing the sweets, and we'd walk down there to meet her with dad. We also used to go to Wanstead flats a lot for picnics. All West ham supporters and born in Plaistow 😊😍

  • @JM_GLOBALGAINSGROUP
    @JM_GLOBALGAINSGROUP 3 года назад +7

    I walk past some of these streets almost everyday. After watching this video I'm going to appreciate them more 😩

  • @malcolmcrisp6287
    @malcolmcrisp6287 4 года назад +3

    John. A great video. I was born in Clinton Rd, Forest Gate, and my father had a printing business under the railway arches (A J Crisp & Son, Ltd) from 1943 to 1962. His biggest customer was TREBOR sweets. Printed the brown paper wrappers that went round the cartons of sweets and also some of the labels that went on the large jars of sweets. I used to help deliver to the TREBOR factory around 1955-60.

  • @annbenoit8535
    @annbenoit8535 4 года назад +3

    I lived in Forest Gate before myself and my parents moved to Canada in 1956. I went to Shaftesbury Road School which was next to the Trevor Factory. We could tell what was on the production line by the smell when we were in the school yard. My mother also worked there for a short while. One set of grandparents lived Leytonstone and the other set lived in East Ham. So your walk was a trip down memory lane for me.

  • @myhistory54
    @myhistory54 3 года назад +8

    This clip is amazing
    Loads and loads of sweet nostalgia of us as kids walking across Wanstead flats when the cows were there
    We went to St Angela’s and St Bonaventures
    Schools - St Bonaventures old building was demolished with its original hall and curved stairwell on both sides
    The book shop brought back memories of how I started teaching adults which was upstairs directly above!!
    West Ham wow flats now - I went once with one of my brothers when we was 10
    All of our old haunts. That Trebor factory - remembering the sense of sweets smell in the area
    Dad chose a great area - Forest Gate
    ❤️❤️❤️ Thank you for bringing back sweet memories

  • @CarlaFrancispetsaccom
    @CarlaFrancispetsaccom 3 года назад +8

    Watching from Australia. You even mentioned Tunmarsh Lane, where I used to live. Makes me very nostalgic about the 90s’. Loved the talk of crowds flooding down Green St on match day, brings back so many memories. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Up the Hammers!

  • @Mushroom67
    @Mushroom67 4 года назад +16

    When I was a kid, we used to go to the loading dock and pester the drivers for bags of sweets. The would give us brown wax paper bags full up, but not before telling us " now get out of here before you get run over".

  • @johnlock9365
    @johnlock9365 3 года назад +7

    The new buildings you mentioned opposite the lovely old YMCA building was the site of West Ham Bus Garage, originally a tram depot it opened in 1906 and closed in 1992. I worked there for thirteen years and was one of the last to leave.

  • @alltheteam69
    @alltheteam69 4 года назад +3

    Just found you John. Am Custom House girl, born in Plaistow Howard’s rd, as we’re my kids. Loved the docks walk, where I worked and Sweet East London walk...... excited to catch up on all the others. Can’t thank you enough for these (bit emotional though). Cheers.

  • @vivleech7057
    @vivleech7057 4 года назад +8

    Thanks for this walk John. As a lifelong Hammers fan it brought back so many memories of visiting the ground from when I was 14. Got quite tearful. Great walk great times then.

  • @huntleywhufc
    @huntleywhufc 4 года назад +11

    Thanks for this walk John, Forest Gate born and bred now in deepest Essex. Every one of those streets holds a memory for me but I was heartbroken when I saw what they had done to the most important place in many EastEnders world.to think we now have to endure the soulless bowl instead of our beloved Boleyn. Keep up the good work mate, come on you Irons.

  • @teresaharrison5773
    @teresaharrison5773 4 года назад +13

    I've a special reason for watching this, my parents both Irish met and married in Forest Gate in the fifties.

    • @risin4949
      @risin4949 4 года назад +2

      I started working at Trebors and socializing in Forest Gate in the 70's. It had quite a big Irish population then. I got to know a lot of them in the 'Princess Alice' and the 'Live and Let Live'. Two pubs now long gone.

    • @noelgilmartin1821
      @noelgilmartin1821 4 года назад

      @@risin4949 The original Princess Alice got bombed in the war, rebuilt in the 60s I think...

  • @never4ever386
    @never4ever386 3 года назад +5

    Only discovered your channel recently. What an absolute gem for local history knowledge. Thanks!

  • @devo7079
    @devo7079 3 года назад +3

    That lovely building across the road from the park in plaistow was once an art college but now flats. You missed the lovely little cottage near plaistow station, looks beautiful and well out of place with all the modern maisonettes near it.

  • @jimmylawson6014
    @jimmylawson6014 3 года назад +2

    Just found this video John, from a Geordie married to a girl from Forest Gate, Sebert Road, absolutely awesome local knowledge where we will try and follow in your footsteps next time we are in the area, also she mentioned a sweet factory called Hussocks or Hassocks in the sixties in Forest Gate area . Now subscribed and cannot wait to check more videos out, John, absolutely fascinating, Thank You.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад

      Was there not a small ice cream manufacturers in Sebert Road ?

  • @helendashwood2081
    @helendashwood2081 4 года назад +3

    Gosh what a blast from the past for me. Mum used to go to the greencrocers on the opposite corner to the Boleyn pub, when we went to the Queens Market, it was an uncovered market. I was also born in Plaistow Maternity Hospital! We lived in Boundary Rd E13, my Dad bought the new house - I still have the book with the Council stamps that my mum used to go and pay every month. The first receipt is dated 15th January 1954 (10 months before my birth) and the grand sum of £4.40 (that's four pounds and forty shillings!) was paid in respect of Surveyors Fees. Fond memories of my early life in West Ham but you can't stop the march of progress.

    • @lindacarmody3953
      @lindacarmody3953 2 года назад

      40 pence

    • @lindacarmody3953
      @lindacarmody3953 2 года назад

      . I also remember Queens Rd. uncovered market. Christmas shopping, the lights as dusk came on, the smells…

  • @angierucinski5694
    @angierucinski5694 25 дней назад

    The smell of the sugar from Trebors was absolutely lovely.

  • @RiteshPatel90
    @RiteshPatel90 4 года назад +6

    Great walk .. I grew up on Kitchener Road in forest gate and my mum worked at the Trebor factory ! Went to school in canning town ... thanks for the memories .. I’m now living in NJ USA !

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +1

      Many thanks for sharing that Ritesh and glad I could help bring back those memories. All the best to you in NJ

  • @Justme-tn2un
    @Justme-tn2un 3 года назад +1

    Wow this video brought back so many memories. Old Green Street, we had the cinema opposite the Barclays that’s gone, the Wimpy on the corner where my aunt would take me for a treat. Marks and Spencer’s now gone my first ever Saturday job. Why they ever covered lovely, lively Queens market and made it dark and dismal I will never understand. All the lovely small cottage hospitals I trained in all gone, East Ham memorial children’s hospital, St Mary’s hospital for women in Plaistow gone. Queen Mary’s hospital in Stratford gone too, Newham maternity hospital and Plaistow hospital geriatric hospital all gone 😢. Had some fun times and made many friends as a nurse in those hospitals. I suppose it’s what you called progress. And when I drove round Lister Comp last year I couldn’t believe how massive the school had grown. Thank you for a virtual walk down memory lane 👍🏼

  • @LordPitsea
    @LordPitsea 4 года назад +2

    My Nan & Grandad ( 1912 and 1914 ) were Straford born and bred and called it "Plarstow". My other Grandad ( 1910 ) who was Latimer Road, W10 born and bred, then moved to the fledgling Becontree Estate in 1925, called it "Playstow". Really enjoy the videos, thank you.

  • @GarethHowell
    @GarethHowell 4 года назад +5

    Thank you so much for this one, John. I was a season ticket holder at West Ham for many years and remember the hubbub on Green Street well. All the pop-up stalls, the smells, sounds and sights. Similarly, walking along Romford Road from the Barking end after we moved.
    I almost stopped the video at the point that you reached the old ground. The day West Ham left The Boleyn Ground marked the end of my active support for the club. I will never go and watch them in Stratford and I’ll never go back to that area again. I couldn’t stand the pain of seeing what has become of the ground. So to see the redevelopment was very hard for me, but I did continue watching, and I thank you again for the video.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад

      One had to think about non-league football and supporting Clapton Orient instead at Forest Gate.

    • @joline2730
      @joline2730 2 года назад

      Yep, I was horrified to see our wonderful "Upton Park" desicrated into low-rise flats - was almost begging that the Boleyn was still there and shame we could not see it in full glory - shame about all that scaffolding covering it up.

  • @helenfawcett9685
    @helenfawcett9685 2 года назад +1

    Love this! My old stamping grounds, from 1980- 2010. Trying to get to a gig out in Essex on a home game day after Saturday music school ... My husband always said Katheryne Road- as he was a Leyton local.

  • @marknicol4606
    @marknicol4606 2 года назад +1

    You have given me all I lost in the beautiful Leytonstone.!! I’ve so many brilliant stories!! Of a bomb site kids in Cecil Road . Leytonstone. ❤️

    • @marknicol4606
      @marknicol4606 2 года назад

      When I was a boy!! Jeff Lynn. Says all about us kids then. Please enjoy. Leytonstone is everything to me. Though I live in the new forest. My hear is There. 100/%🕊🇬🇧💪🏽

  • @julieblackstock8650
    @julieblackstock8650 4 года назад +4

    I love this one, My mum is 86 and when I have her here on Xmas Day I am going to show her this one as she would know the area well but we left in 1969. We lived in Stratford, I was born in Forest Gate Hospital. My uncle and aunt lived in Plaistow

    • @julieblackstock8650
      @julieblackstock8650 4 года назад

      @John Buffalo I am 98 No Essex Coast but moving to Suffolk next year for the rural life

    • @julieblackstock8650
      @julieblackstock8650 4 года назад

      @John Buffalo I am 98 where I am now about 325-350,000.. in Suffolk about 100,000 less

    • @geegod9122
      @geegod9122 4 года назад

      @John Buffalo I am 98 nosey eh lol

  • @simondunlop8900
    @simondunlop8900 3 года назад +1

    Good old east London best place in the world

  • @minascarlett2333
    @minascarlett2333 2 года назад +1

    I lived on the Romford Road in the late 60s until the age of fourteen, in a flat above a cafe, which my parents ran. A very young and then unknown Arnie Schwartsnega used to pop in to the cafe when he lived in the area and trained at a local gym - he mentions it in his book!

  • @bakerloobadboy
    @bakerloobadboy 4 года назад +12

    Thank heavens for this week's video as I start another miserable week in deepest grottiest Willesden. The week will now be worth while because of another JR video.
    Hook End Tesco used to be The Green Gate pub until it closed (an idea for a walk could be to visit pubs that became supermarkets / McDonald's etc) the area is generally known as " Green Gate". The new housing by Plaistow park wasn't built on old bombed out houses but on the site of the old West Ham bus garage. Across the road from North Street (devoid of Dorric Columns) was the location of the Jayes Fluid Factory
    As always John, another utterly brilliant video filmed very close to my front door

  • @dougcassidy2417
    @dougcassidy2417 4 года назад +14

    If you'd carried on along Plaistow high street, there's the Black lion pub. Parts of which date from the 18th century.

    • @rootsquare
      @rootsquare 3 года назад +1

      Where West Ham players used to go for a pre match drink... Had a boxing club upstairs....

    • @cheekyllamacreations
      @cheekyllamacreations 3 года назад

      My brother used to be the DJ in the Black Lion in the 60’s/70’s. He met lots of WHU players and many music greats!

    • @dougcassidy2417
      @dougcassidy2417 3 года назад +1

      @@cheekyllamacreations That's right ! , it seems unbelievable now. One of my favourite pubs in the area, along with the Edward VII, in Stratford.

  • @starbuck5228
    @starbuck5228 3 года назад +1

    Newham born and raised now living in Ilford Essex I remember my mother told and my sisters that she used to work in Trebor sweet factory 🏭 way back in the late 1960s , she also worked in Bryant and May matchstick factory in Mile end East London Tower Hamlets but sadly it's no longer there it's now sainsbury super market.

  • @LivingwiththeMazumdars
    @LivingwiththeMazumdars 2 года назад +1

    Wishes from very far away (India). Loved your video and thanks for showing around. I studied in London and stayed in Leytonstone about 20 years ago. Never went back again (caught up with life). But my love for London is etched deep within! Subscribed.

  • @ArthurStone
    @ArthurStone 4 года назад +3

    I was walking through Plaistow in a rainstorm and just as I passed a local man, a huge blue bolt of lightning hit the building next to us. Our lives were saved by a maisonette. We both exchanged a relieved smile and continued.
    Great pubs around Plaistow when I lived there: Lock, Stock and Barrel; Spotted Dog; and many I cannot recall. Thanks John!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +1

      Great story Arthur, thanks

    • @HonestSonics
      @HonestSonics 4 года назад +1

      What a rare event. Perhaps it signalled that West Ham had just won a game up the road...

    • @ArthurStone
      @ArthurStone 4 года назад +1

      @@HonestSonics Better statistical probability of a direct hit ; D

    • @frazanapatel611
      @frazanapatel611 4 года назад +1

      Fantastic story- so interesting

  • @ravsingh1576
    @ravsingh1576 4 года назад +4

    Hi John, such a fascinating tour and history lesson. I grew up in Forest Gate. You shared so much great knowledge and I never really had a clue about it. Really enjoyed reading everyone's comments below too and knowing how many locals there are. Thank you for sharing.

  • @jazzman9042
    @jazzman9042 4 года назад +6

    Hi John, the big pub is or was The Duke of Fife, the doors of which I fell out of on many a happy evening.
    The Trebor factory was still producing sweets into the mid 1970's. I grew up just around the corner and did my coppersmith apprenticeship in East London Copper Works just along from Trebors in Shaftesbury road, and consequently did a lot of work for the factory.
    When my aunt worked in the sweet factory in the 1950's we used get a free newspaper twist of mixed sweets each Friday evening yum yum yum...good old Trebor. Keep up the good work my friend!

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing those vital memories of the area Michael

    • @doveronefoxtrot4417
      @doveronefoxtrot4417 4 года назад +3

      My grandfather ran the pub during the wartime.

  • @petestearn7985
    @petestearn7985 4 года назад +2

    The pub along from the Trebor factory was called The Duke Of Fife. I lived diagonally opposite it as a child in the 1950's. My mum worked at Trebors too. She used to smuggle some sweets home for us sometimes!

  • @K4RIR
    @K4RIR 3 года назад +4

    Hi John, only came across your channel very recently and absolutely love watching your videos. Was a treat to see this as i live a couple of roads away from the old Trebor factory (Chester Road). Im often in Wanstead Park too taking my dog for a walk. Hopefully one day we cross paths. Always love a chat about history...especially in areas where I've grown up! Keep the great videos coming 😊

  • @stevemeadows8906
    @stevemeadows8906 4 года назад +3

    One of the Trebor founders lived in my street -Thomas Henry King. There were four who got together. Thomas King,Willaiam Woodcock, Robert Robertson, and Sydney Herbert Marks. William Woodcock was a sugar boiler by trade! Trebor is Robert Robertsons first name backwards. Really enjoying your journeys.

  • @wayneleader2364
    @wayneleader2364 4 года назад +3

    reminds me of being 16 years old back in 1981-1982 . i used go to a great little east end cafe nearly opposite the Trebor factory . Thank you

  • @jamesnightingale9782
    @jamesnightingale9782 4 года назад +1

    Another great walk John. If your ever get back over Dagnams at Harold Hill you will find if you look two Granite columns from Wanstead house. They where purchased and never used and lay where they where put many years ago. I’m sure on the Dagnams website it mentions these and how they came to lay in part of the park.
    Great bit of history regarding Trebor. Thanks again for all the great walks and videos. Jim

  • @paulinewerth5423
    @paulinewerth5423 3 года назад +1

    Can’t believe I found this !as a girl I lived above many of the launderettes around this area!my mum molly amondson used to be the cleaner and do service washes !1960 -1975 .

  • @eatwithjin7725
    @eatwithjin7725 3 года назад +2

    I’m currently living in one of those new flats in Upton garden. Good to know the history of the area

  • @londoncabby
    @londoncabby 4 года назад +3

    Firstly I gave a like before I even watched this video, as I knew it wouldn’t disappoint, and it didn’t!! 😀
    Secondly, I too, am a Plaistovian! (Never even heard that expression!) I grew up off Tunmarsh Lane and spent many a happy time over the park. There used to be an old bus garage next to Essex Lodge and there’s a nod to it an a road name there, Routemaster Close. Another fantastic video John. And I WILL BUY YOUR BOOK, even if it is just to read a few pages of the area! 😆👍🏼👍🏼 thank you John, another lovely Sunday evening

  • @johnfrederickmansfield5444
    @johnfrederickmansfield5444 4 месяца назад

    I remember walking down Barbers Alley from Plaistow to watch the Hammers. I live on the other side of the world now have fond memories of growing up in Plaistow and later Barking.

  • @brianjrichman
    @brianjrichman 4 года назад +16

    Thanks for the Trebor connection. Nice to see those origins after the last one where my mum used to work at (the old factory on Woodford Road). As for Plaistow, I married a "Plaistow Patricia" kind of woman and my daughter was born in the old Plaistow Maternity Hospital.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +2

      Thanks very mucj for bringing the Trebor story to my attention Brian and sowing the seed of this walk.

    • @paulm.7422
      @paulm.7422 4 года назад +4

      If you are referring to the old maternity hospital in Howards Road (known to locals as just "Howards Road"), I was also born there in 1954. However, I was merely born in Plaistow. I only ever lived in E6 ... Upton Park, then East Ham ... both east of the great East Ham/West Ham divide ... Green Street! (Only true locals would really understand the significance of that).

    • @brianjrichman
      @brianjrichman 4 года назад +1

      @@JohnRogersWalks Glad you made it into a walk too and that you were excited about it too.

    • @andylovejoy4121
      @andylovejoy4121 4 года назад +1

      @@paulm.7422 and me and my sister was born there and her name is Patricia.

    • @emmajorro5004
      @emmajorro5004 3 года назад +1

      @@andylovejoy4121 I was born there too and now live in Plaistow, west sussex. My mum used to call me plaistow Patricia!!

  • @michaeloneill9831
    @michaeloneill9831 4 года назад +4

    Thanks John. I love this walk. It brings back great memories. School cross country running and football on Wanstead flats, my time at St. Bonaventure's school in Forest Gate, my enjoyable school summer holiday job in Trebor's factory which included helping with mixing ingredients for the sweets and for the many years watching West Ham United at the Boleyn ground seeing the great Bobby Moore Geoff Hurst Martin Peters etc

  • @johncullinan8041
    @johncullinan8041 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting walk. Right next to West Ham ground was St. John’s Catholic Secondary School which also disappeared in the 80’s but I used to walk from Upton Park tube to St.John’s each day. On match evenings we used to close the school for the afternoon so that the students could get home safely as the crush and heave of people coming to the match and churning off the trains was so great particularly if the Hammers were playing a London derby. The people of Newham were great, always ready with a smile and a witty comment.

  • @jillcain1433
    @jillcain1433 4 года назад +2

    Hi John, really enjoyed your Forest Gate to Plaistow walk. I’m now nearly 80 and lived outside London but I worked in TREBOR late 50s early 60s and I the old Upton Park market that ran along the road that ran parallel with the railway . You never mentioned The Boleyn Castle along Green Street, it was a beautiful castle I played in the grounds in the 40s was knocked down to build St ? School before becoming part of the football grounds. Jill Cain

    • @sterlingmoose9335
      @sterlingmoose9335 Год назад

      The school was St John's and was next to the football ground. I used to attend Judo Classes there in the early 80's

  • @newham86
    @newham86 3 года назад +1

    I am a Manc and bought my only house in Plaistaw. I am still here and know the route you took and buildings so well. My favourite is the last building you reviewed in Plaistaw. From now I shall describe myself as Plaistovian.

  • @leytonorient1973
    @leytonorient1973 4 года назад +3

    Great video john thanks for mentioning my Hitchcock tours .but thanks for paying homage to jack cornwell.that was a touch of class .Plaistow brings back a lot of memories for me .a lot of family used to live there and my Nan is buried in the east london cemetery in Plaistow.superb john .

  • @terryflynn1956
    @terryflynn1956 4 года назад +3

    Yet another brilliant walk John including a narrative full of so many interesting facts. The gem was the Trebor building and stories . As an east end boy myself born in Leyton I went to George Mitchell school in Farmer road and we celebrated both George Mitchell and Jack Cornwall on George Mitchell day both war heroes. More of the same please John so good . 👏😊👍

  • @dovefamily3247
    @dovefamily3247 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for another great film John. Those of us of a certain age who attended Plaistow Grammar School call themselves 'Old Plaistovians'.

  • @sulmansohailfarooqui
    @sulmansohailfarooqui 4 года назад

    Back in 1968 we moved to rented house in Milton Avenue, not far from the TREBOR factory. Our school was in Sandringham Rd, again off Katherine Rd and our sisters went to school in Shrewsbury Rd, the same street as the factory. Used to pass the factory twice a day !! In winter the spill of sugary waste water on to the road used to be like an ice-rink. Had to walk carefully !! Thank you for the wonderful blog. Learnt a lot about the area I hadn't known.

  • @londoncentral
    @londoncentral 3 года назад

    Only just discovered your fantastic video John. Oh the memories. My Mother worked at Trebor and so did I when I left School. One of my School years was just next to Trebors. Shaftsbury School, Then Sandringham just further up near Romford Road. My first visit to the Hammers 1957 aged five in the Chicken Run. Born Hilda Road off of Plashet Road 1952. Thank you John.

  • @raymondpenalver7095
    @raymondpenalver7095 4 года назад +3

    About time you had your own program on the telly John , always love the information you put out in all your videos, have a great week!

  • @TimLondonGuitarist
    @TimLondonGuitarist 3 года назад +1

    The music in these productions is very effective, draws you onwards in the walk

  • @stevemobbs2707
    @stevemobbs2707 4 года назад +3

    Thank you, I loved this walk. My Dad tried to get me to support West Ham, but I managed to avoid that fate! He was born in Eastbourne but moved to Plaistow in the 1950s and used to watch West Ham in those days. He worked at the Gas works in Plaistow, so if you go back at any time I’d live to see where they were. I live in Northumberland so I don’t get to London very much now, so really I appreciate these trips.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 2 года назад

      Cannot recall the Plaistow gas works - were they near the hospital, the main (pun ?!) gas works were at Beckton. (I did have a book on the Gas works of the North Thames but I sold it).

  • @nickname1812
    @nickname1812 4 года назад +7

    Goodness Trebor!! I forgot about that. Used to pass it as a teenager (Woodford Avenue building). Another enjoyable walk. Loved it.

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад +1

      two amazing buildings Eric - I must do a walk between them one day

  • @risin4949
    @risin4949 4 года назад +3

    Hi John. Trebors recovered from whatever damage the bomb did. It was certainly in full production in the 1970's. I worked there as a Sugar Boiler.

  • @Mouxbar
    @Mouxbar 4 года назад +1

    Never knew about the original Trebor factory John and she is a beauty. A few other gems here as well. Fabulous.

  • @Anon1991
    @Anon1991 3 года назад +6

    love your videos John, i love all the history i learn about my own area, look forward to reading your book. if only schools taught children the history of their local area, maybe a local school should hire you to take their kids for a local walk and be taught the rich history around them one day. Keep it up!

  • @knightystar4001
    @knightystar4001 4 года назад +3

    Confection wise, my family has London links to the Cadburys factory in Cricklewood (Nan) was manager, and other half's Nan worked at Paynes Poppets in Croydon..Cadbury's Nan was born in Plaistow too..just behind the Boleyn. Keep urban exploring & filming John, your films are an absolute joy to watch & a tonic to lockdown. Newham Bookshop is excellent!!!

  • @andrewcroft6855
    @andrewcroft6855 4 года назад +3

    great stuff as ever John, as a groundhopper it's heartbreaking to see Upton Park gone, that was my first football league ground back in 1975 as my elder brother took me, we lived in Canterbury at the time and what i always remember is when my brother brought the train tickets there was a special offer on a childs' fare as i was 13, the return journey from Canterbury to Victoria was all of 10p. Keep up the good work- due to finding your channel a few months agon and meeting you in Ramsgate i am now doing a lot more walks myself in this glorious part of East Kent, hop on a bus out into the villages and it's gorgeous and just so quiet and tranquil trawling old WW2 pillboxes and associated things. Top man John

  • @MunsterIrons
    @MunsterIrons Месяц назад

    Places and memories of ours childhoods gone forever

  • @Signals927
    @Signals927 4 года назад +3

    Enjoyed this one as usual. I was born in Plaistow, lived as a baby in Plaistow Park Road. The Trebor HQ I remember well on Woodford Ave, in my football days I used to train and play on the Plessey sports ground which was just across the road from the Trebor HQ.

  • @stephenhumphrey4748
    @stephenhumphrey4748 4 года назад +1

    I worked for a company called clarnico in 1969 as a16 year old van boy it was in waterden road Stratford London who later was taken over by Trevor sharp who had factory in katherrine road forest gate I believe good video brought back a lot of memories thanks

  • @briancox144
    @briancox144 4 года назад +3

    Great video brings back my boyhood days watching West Ham my team times I have walked down green street from 1964 until they left Upton Park very sad well done John Rogers great memories

  • @AchtungMillwall
    @AchtungMillwall 2 года назад +1

    Great video John, I’m really enjoying your stuff.
    With regard to the Trebor factory on Katherine Road (locally pronounced as Kather-rine with the ‘ine’ emphasised) my wife tells me it was a functioning sweet factory into the mid-70s - she went on a school visit there. Also one of her aunts had a job with Trebor at that time.
    Keep up the terrific work mate 👏🏻

  • @brettbanks3602
    @brettbanks3602 4 года назад +9

    I remember having to avoid the masses of wasps swarming around the sugary waste being pumped into the bins outside the Trevor factory, when visiting relatives.
    The YMCA building in Plaistow, was either a sixth form college or one of the campuses of the Uni.

    • @yvettewilliamselliott8851
      @yvettewilliamselliott8851 4 года назад +1

      Brett Banks I remember when it was part of the University, I used to use the library there. It’s an amazing building.

  • @garymorris8547
    @garymorris8547 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic John, brought a lot back too this old plaistovian. Thanks mate!

  • @jharris947
    @jharris947 3 года назад

    Another excellent walk.😎👍

  • @Lulu-jl5zd
    @Lulu-jl5zd 4 года назад +3

    My brother got tickets to a game at the Boleyn Ground in the 90s and we walked along Green St. What an atmosphere! It poured with monsoon like rain the whole way yet that only seem to enhance the excitement as people dived into the places to get warm food or drinks. We took our seats and the game was called off before kick off. However when we came back to Green St. the atmosphere was the same as before. These folk were a community. Recently I walked to the London (Straford) Stadium - what a cold emotionless place - what a shame - even the statue of the 66 great's seems to have been left behind for the corporate dream.

  • @JTTW1455
    @JTTW1455 9 месяцев назад

    Your walks are like a lullaby, that take a calming journey. Thank you.

  • @artdecoy
    @artdecoy 4 года назад +2

    Great film. My Dad was from Plaistow and Mum from Manor Park. Great to see so many familiar places. Thanks John

  • @PhilUKNet
    @PhilUKNet 4 года назад

    My paternal grandparents lived in Woodstock Road and my great-grandmother in Rothsay Road - very near to the Trebor factory (now converted into apartments). As a kid in the 60's, I remember visiting my grandparents and smelling the sweet air from the factory. My maternal grandparents lived in High St South and I grew up in Hall Road, East Ham just off the Barking Road. When I first started watching West Ham I could walk to the ground from home and I played schoolboy football on Wanstead Flats. Happy days. That area now, of course, couldn't be any more different to how it was back then. I now live in Thailand. Thanks for the video and the memories. Memories are all we have now.

  • @RajSinghKhalsa
    @RajSinghKhalsa 4 года назад +13

    I vaguely remember from my early years the YMCA gothic building was some sort of art college which had a ghastly metal sculpture infront of it before it was turned to apartments a few years back

    • @emilyjost1852
      @emilyjost1852 4 года назад +3

      It was an art school - part of what is now UEL. When I went there in 1991 it was still East London poly

    • @MrBaldypete1
      @MrBaldypete1 4 года назад +1

      Remember when there was a bus garage over the road?

    • @RajSinghKhalsa
      @RajSinghKhalsa 4 года назад +2

      @@MrBaldypete1 bus garage is gone and a housing estate replaced it called "Route master close" the war memorial to all public transport workers who lost their lives l is still there and poppy wreaths placed there every remembrance day

  • @Rafi-mz7bg
    @Rafi-mz7bg 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video, I lived on Katherine Road back in 1993, and use to walk through Queen Market, Green street every single day on way to Newham College. So lovely to walk down the memory lane.

  • @LoisDavidsonArt
    @LoisDavidsonArt 4 года назад +3

    Ooooh! Fab walk, so interesting, thank so much John! I think I may well don my mask and pop out tomorrow for a packet of Trebor Mints. Had a tear in my eye on hearing the story of Jack Cornwall...

    • @JohnRogersWalks
      @JohnRogersWalks  4 года назад

      thanks Lois - yes the Jack Cornwell story is powerful, worth reading a longer account online. I believe he was remembered in an event at his old school in Leyton until quite recently

  • @robbojax2025
    @robbojax2025 4 года назад +1

    Another enjoyable walk. Nice touch to do the Jack Cornwell feature. I went to Cornwell School in Manor Park which was named after him. I believe he attended there when it was called Walton Road School.

  • @howdymartin6258
    @howdymartin6258 4 года назад +2

    John - after a long day this was a real treat - and yes, happy to walk along with you ---- wherever you may go.

  • @paulknight3111
    @paulknight3111 4 года назад +2

    Speaking as more of a Polo man I enjoyed the informative walk and learnt much about the sweet connection around the area . I lived briefly just off the Barking Road and walked through Katherine Road many times without really paying too much attention to the great Trebor building