I gotta say yesterday was the first time I seriously considered the possibility of them folding. They likely need a talent rebuild, so we are talking like three years until they are a playoff team MAYBE. Attendance could plummet even harder. I live in the southern tier and absolutely nobody talks about or even remembers the sabres at this point. It's a calamity.
13 years ago, there was hope. Then it became frustration, then anger. I think it then went to sadness and then to laughter. All these emotions are fine. However, we are now getting very close to apathy. Once that happens, bye bye Sabres.
100% agree. I think we're starting to see that like all of these current players we were somewhat looking forward to just aren't that good. I also think we've had an issue with rushing prospects because we've been so atrocious that management is probably more desperate than they would normally be with other teams.
I've been saying this for the last 2 years. As soon as we signed Cozens to 7m a year I knew it was over for the next coming years. Too much money on undeserving players and they had messed up all the developmental stages by never employing good coaches or good veterans to teach them how to play. the high draft picks clouded theyre head and the sabres assumed they were all good to come straight to the league. Wasted Youth.
Mid-Season? How about tomorrow? Kevyn Adams has shown he's got no fucking clue on how to build an NHL roster. People need to stop calling Columbus a bad team because they beat the real worst team in the NHL. And yes Joe, the season is over. They're not good enough to dig themselves out of this hole. I'd rather they forfeit the season than try and salvage what's left. I don't care about the draft, let them take the year off, go back to basics and re-learn how to play the game. They can't trade anyone because no one wants what we have and no one wants to come here. This is not funny, or is it a joke it's a fucking tragedy. They're ripping the hearts out of this fanbase. It's hockey Hell. I'd say let's set up a day to go down to the arena and picket the owner and the team. What do we want? Adams fired! when do we want it? Now! What do we want? SELL THE TEAM TERRY! When do we want it? 13 years ago!!!!!! It's a travesty how bad this team is being run. There needs to be a change!
The only problem i have with firing Adams is who is gonna do it differently? What GM can come here and get players to want to come here? Are players not coming here cause of Adams or the team? Let's be honest, the GM isn't the biggest problem, its the 13-year drought. Gotta get to the playoffs, and then even Adams can get good players in here to help. Cozens is in his head and needs to sit and talk with a psychologist, I'm hoping Quinn is still working through the Achille injury or he is also playing scared. It's really the 2nd line that's holding us back. I cant understand why its one thing all the time every other game. Its either the Offense cant score, D cant defend or the goalies play like they belong in the ECHL. This team can never have all 3 phases going at once, aside from the Panthers game and 1 game outta 6 so far cant be the trend here or it will never work. I still love this team but who can really fix this? I cant think of anyone except the players need to perform correctly and get us in the playoffs. Too many times switching HC and GMs at different times so the players are drafted for the right coach but the HC is fired, new one comes in and then cant use this roster so the GM drafts players for this HC and then it takes too long and the GM gets fired and then they hire a new GM and that GM doesnt like ceratin players that were drafted so he trades them and new players come in and they dont fit the HC so again the HC gets fired and the cycle continues. Wanna know why Regier and Ruff had so much success? Continuity, they built and coached the team for 16 years, they drafted and traded and built it for Ruff's style and Regier made those trades and drafts focused on Ruff's style. Hire a GM and a HC at the same time and keep it for 5 years or so and then you might see the change necessary to get back to the playoffs. Too much switching mid 5 year plan, stick it out, it takes times to overhaul a roster. Adams built the team this way, so if you get a new HC then its either the players or Adams, if its the players that dont fit, take out the ones that dont and get ones that do and keep Adams to get the right ones and keep continuity, if its Adams then fire him and get a GM that is familiar with Ruff and what he wants and do the same. In the end, if its the players, then firing Adams wont change it cause the new GM can do the same and Adams actually drafts very well and his trades arent terrible so maybe just clean up the roster and keep the HC and GM. Go Sabres!
Great points. We don’t want Buffalo to become the 1990s and 2000s Cleveland Browns. Our fans should be careful what they wish for because this could all get so much worse. I think the team just needs to play this out right now
@@s98247 Samuelsson actually looked really good before the injuries started piling up. Could be injuries took away some of his natural ability and that he just doesn't have the brain to compensate for it. Jokiharju never really looked consistently good.
Yes do it now! The idea of building a stronger 3rd line and not improving the top two lines have been a catastrophic decision so far. We did absolutely nothing to improve the first two lines in the offseason and here we are worse than last season heading for another top-five pick.
This start of the season has absolutely CRUSHED all bright side expectations of I've had of UPL and Levi... of course, our lack of talent sure doesn't help
The MOST frustrating thing is that the problem is not so obvious. I’ve often thought that they lack offensive talent, but they’re scoring; their defense looks bad, but they have tons of talent; GMKA says the right things, but the talent/leadership/commitment doesn’t seem to be there. One thing is clear: goaltending is mediocre at best-unacceptable for a team that dares to dream playoffs.
Even though I agree on the most things, I disagree regarding the goaltending. At least this year. UPL and Levi are good but forwards are not backchecking and blocking shots, defense are allowing A grade chances. Even with Bobrowsky or Vasilevsky in net, the results would still be the same.
Where to start!! Been following Sabres since the beginning so not new to this neighborhood. Adams has done nothing except make alot of other teams Stanley Cup winners/contenders. Tired of seeing Sabres draft picks shine in other places. There is a proverbial all star team of recent draftees playing somewhere else. Sabres are weak with no fight or push back. They reached for Lindy this summer. What was the hurry? You maybe could have gotten Keefe. But no one else was taking Lindy. Watching the Sabres and their effort is worse than watching a bad AHL team. I think Hershey could beat the Sabres. They are a laughing stock and that is a shame because Buffalo and its loyal fans deserve so much more. Good bye Lindy and good bye Adam’s. Thank you.
Ding, ding, ding, WE HAVE THE WINNER !!! Yea, who would have thought it might have been a terrible idea, right? LOLSabres certainly didn't and never do it seems. This team and poeple running it, man...unreal stupidity that never ends.
Great Video. I thought that GM Kevyn Adams did A Decent Job, when he got Hall, Staal & others, but, he ruined it by Not Firing Ralph Krueger, who had wasted all of That Talent. I'm also of the view, that he did A Decent Job in getting some of these players (Thompson, Tuch & others) rather than only losing O'Reilly, Eichel & others for nothing, however, rather than building on that, Adams is only making tweaks the last 2 seasons, rather than make A Few Major Changes. Therefore I think that it's time to have him relieved of His GM Duties, even if they keep him in a capacity. I think that they should move on from him completely, even if getting Lindy Ruff, it's too little too late. Please let me know what you think.
This team is no better than when Adams took over...if you can't improve the team in 4.5 yrs fire him. Pegula keeps hiring GM's with no experience and he still hasn't learned experience counts. It's time to trade some of these players Samuelsson sux, you hardly hear Quinn's name during the game, Thompson takes a dumb penalty and Pitt capitalized on it to win in OT. The team plays sloppy and yet the big word was accountability since Ruff was hired. Adam's comes back with the same d-men that were piss poor last year and the same asst coach who was responsible for them. If Pegula has lost interest in the team and only cares about the Bills and his new stadium so be it...sell the team to someone who cares and will keep the team here. There comes a time to grow a set and be an owner and not a fan boy. Adams is probably a nice guy as was Okposo and Girgensons but there is a time you cut ties and Pegula doesn't seem to understand that. Scotty Bowman in his prime couldn't get this bunch into the playoffs. I could go on and on but what's the use as things will never change as long as Pegula is the owner.
We need to fix the D, there is no speed at all with - Power and Samuelson, I like Bryan, Dahlin, Ryan Johnson and Joki…. Power needs to wake up…. We need more offensive defensemen… We need to rush the D into the offensive zone more not stupid passes and flips out if the zone
Krebs is a playmaker not a 4 line mucker. Let him center cozens and either Quinn Kulich or Peterka. Quit using players in the wrong positions. Get Gilbert in the lineup LET RUFF HIRE HIS OWN STAFF
The only GM that they should have hired was The Former Chicago Blackhawks/Current Edmonton Oilers GM Stan Bowman, who built 3 Stanley Cup Chicago Blackhawks in The 2010s. Even his last move, in Getting Seth Jones might've been An Overpayment, but, he's Good In Chicago. Other than him, I really can't think of anybody, other than Former GM Ken Holland, who I think didn't want to continue. Let me know what you think
Does it matter if we fire Adams? It’s not like any GM is going to overcome the systemic problems that we’re facing in trying to perpetually rebuild. We’re looking at more high first round draft picks and eventually trading Dahlin, Cozens, Power for even draft picks. No significant free agent signings should be expected given what free agency has become in the league. Hopefully Ruff can get better play out of the kids but we are effectively an AHL team. We develop young players like Reinhart and Eichel to win Cups elsewhere…
I doubt it but Adams is on his third coach and so far other than the outlier yr in 22-23 the same issues are still plaguing them today which you would think would have improved with experience. Team still struggles under pressure on the boards in the D zone, lack of O zone sustained puck possession, erratic SOG, PP being poo poo and PK is now in the 70s percentage. Adams on more than one occasion has stated he knows how to build winning teams but the pudding says no proof. He brought Lindy in to save his hide and all it did was expose how the team is not built correctly. Sidenote, the 3rd and 4th lines are better, that's not sarcasm. Much better than what they've had and they are contributing. This team needs Cozens, Quinn and Samuelsson to get hot, only way other teams would be interested in trading for them.
When pegula purchased the sabres he said he will go all out and get top of the line scouts, trainers, etc.....He must have for gotten about getting a GM - we had 5 since and have gone no where. Giving big $ to a player after one good year is not the way to go..It was the same with Botterill, skinner scores 40 gets 9 mil for 8 yrs and hasn't done that again
Nobody should be fired at mid season. I’m sick & tired of Pegula’s stupid hockey decisions. Adams hired Ruff so he & Lindy deserves at least one year to get them back into the playoffs.
I kept saying Adam's would get fired however I never thought it would be this early but it needs to happen. Defensively they are a mess and Lindy Ruff doesn't know what to do. Someone has to be sacrificed for Mr. Pegula to save face.. they have the talent but the coaching staff and front office is a mess. It can be turned around but not with the current regime.
Firing Adams isn't gonna fix it if it's the players, Adams has built this roster for three different HCs, see a problem there? Each coach likes and utilizes each player differently. Ever wonder why Regier and Ruff worked well together? They did it for 16 years! They worked off each other. Ruff: I like this guy, I think he would fit this team and how I'm coaching them" Regier: "I'll go get him" you need a HC and GM working together for at least 5 years solidly. You can fire Adams but it's the players that are failing the HC cause they were built and signed long term for Granato, they like to play a different style than Ruff. You either have the wrong HC for this group or the wrong group for the HC. Adams can't get the right roster construction if 3 different HCs want 3 different systems. I don't think a different GM is gonna make the trades needed that Adams couldn't cause it's Adams inability to do so, it's the 13 years playoffs drought that's the problem. Only way to fix this is make the playoffs, you have to make the playoffs. You can fire and trade left and right but if the result isn't the playoffs and the HC to GM continuity isn't there it will never work. You can fire Adams, Ruff isn't staying for 5 more years IMO so the next GM would have to build for the next HC, is that Appert? Someone else? Need to know that before you fired Adams and hire a new GM, you need to know who you are building the roster for for the next 5 years or this will keep happening
Professional sports is foremost business. If the owner doesn't know how to run that business, it will fail and fans will be miserable. Why sometimes it's wise to look into who is running the franchise before supporting that team.
Sabres had talked to Don Waddell before Waddell signed on with the CBJ. I assume that Adams was involved in that process, so I think that Adams will simply move to president and a new GM will take his place.
Look Terry kept this franchise in Buffalo and ill be forever grateful but he has to get serious about the state of this fanbase. The 13 year drought has made us all desperate to see some post season action and Terry needs to get the right people running this club. Cant have his buddies or unproven talent but actual proven winners even if it costs an arm or a leg because no one is showing up to watch the longest running playoff drought team not play good hockey.
Ya you mean the only owner that’s actually spent on this team sure. Idiot. Without the Pegula’s get ready for a penny pinching owner like Golisano or an owner who will move the team elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure that not even biggest Sabres pessimists didn't envision or expected Sabres players and team as a whole to look and be this bad, which makes this really worrisome, and looks very ugly and bleak. I'm affraid that whole Sabres core is rotten, apart from few bright young players, and that they will need to blow it all up, from top to bottom. Bring Pat LaFontaine or some other respected hockey person as President of hockey operations, who will decide on Lindy Ruff after this season, but will demand complete purge of assistant coaches that they failed to do when they brought back Lindy. All I know is, Kevin Adams is and never was fit for this position. Pegula needs to give reigns to knowledgeble hockey smarts, and not rookie projects like Adams, who is feel good kool aid mouthpiece, and not veteran GM this team desperatly needs.
Take it easy young fans.. Talk to me after a quarter season. Cause we could fire off a 4 or 5 game win streak 😂 & will be signing a completely different tune. So until it hopeless, let’s grovel over the last game at this moment…
No shortage of depth of quality players here..the failure to hire an energetic Head Coach and staff has been stunning. Watching players go to other teams and win Cup. Really disillusioning. I am NHL fan at large who grew up in New England played Women’s college hockey in the 70’s and went on to work in ice hockey in LA and growing sport in California. Retired to Vegas and VGK here came along some years later. It’s on some level hard to fail to the extent this Sabres organization has done that. If you have an enthusiastic management group it is so possible to succeed. In LA we began with a young entrepreneur who developed a recreational league and ice rinks. Kings and Lakers practice facility was land he secured after success of local hockey. It is so doable to succeed here. But ownership needs to overhaul his management and bring along a coaching staff. Either Bruce Boudreau or Gerard Gallant are players coaches who could generate optimism and fun and plenty of winning for your fanbase. It would be a place to start a much deserved reset.
@@aaa7189 Well certainly Dahlin getting into a decisive scrum with Peyton Krebs during a practice shows some of that! Jordan Greenway always played a physical up tempo game and has been scoring. Alex Tuch has great offensive energy. Tage Thompson good with the shots on net. I think Dylan Cozens is the prototype for finding effective head coaching. He is an agitator but undisciplined when the game lacks structure or focus. A results oriented coach addresses that. The energy and will to succeed is here. But as I have been posting for a number of seasons ..the management has lacked the vision to hire a coach who has the skill set to drive a team of this sort..many seasons without post season appearances. You need that guy who can lead and while Lindy Ruff was terrific here..time passages..now a coach who is that much older . Boudreau or Gallant aren’t young either! But both have had winning outcomes in recent years..they’re less favored at this point likely because neither is analytics prompted.
@@mercywilliams2698 On day 1, pegula said he get will the top scouts, trainers, etc. He must have forgotten about the GM. We had had 5 and how has that worked out ? The D needs to improve (some are overpaid) Stop watching the puck while the opponent is open in front of our net, they can't clear the net and are not physical enough. Like I said, too soon to give them that kind of money. How did that work out with skinner, after one 40 goal season - he is given 9 mil a year and hasn't hit that mark again.
we were literally better with Granado, Lindy will get fired after this year. Lindy, GM , whole restucture is what we need, we need to offload half of our roster, including Quinn and Cozens, keep Peterka hes pretty good, Thompsons upside is still great, Kulich will be awesome eventually, everybody else sucks Dahlin and Power are okay I think Power kinda looks better than Dahlin this year.
They should have hired Quinnville not Ruff in the first place but I’m assuming he would rather stay unemployed they try and coach this dumpster fire of a roster.
Joe,they Lost the game,and played a Porous 'D' throughout,saying to fire someone is off the rails! You did make some great points! I like your show a lot but not this type of reactionary crap! Get back to the grind, C'Mon Sabres! And still 100% believe in Devon Levi!
Its such typical Buffalo fashion that we get a 1st overall pick finally. The 1st one was supposed to be the next Nicholas Lindstrom or a defensive Datsyuk but ends up being a joke of a defenseman with no flash or strong points anywhere in his game. Then u get the 1st overall pick few yrs later & the draft class is probably one of the weakest in past 10 yrs & they take another defenseman who sucks COMPLETE a$$ & was a waste of a pick. Its just the way everything goes with this franchise even goin back to when we missed out by losing the draft lottery & had to get eichel. Just such a sad sad sad pathetic existence & I thought I'd never not wanna watch or cheer for the sabres but im now 100% at that point. I could honestly care less about them.
@ojsglove6221 it is not an excuse this is the reality. Everybody wants instant potatoes or microwavable TV dinner that looks and tastes like a five-star restaurant. Look how long it took the Bills.
@@Sabres1970 They still play like weaklings this is not a coaching issue it’s on the players and the GM who assembled the team. Plain and simple. Fans have been seeing this BS for 13 years there’s no more valid excuses for Adams it’s put up or show up.
@ojsglove6221 trust me, I'm with you on that. I don't think it's a coach issue either, especially with having Ruff back. That game against Pittsburgh, that main core been together for 20 years now, our inexperienced showed. They got to get back to playing free and having fun out there every single one of them besides JJ are holding their sticks too damn tight
finally somebody who gets it. Lindy inherited a team that played soft for 3 yrs. and rarely finished a body check. Give Lindy at least 20 games to toughen them up and implement his tight checking system ,they had to easy under Granato
@@steveb1962Hope you don’t mind but I’m gonna toss ya guys some fun stats I found while looking at MoneyPuck. But as of right now the Sabres are in the top half of the league for 5 on 5 and in their Power Play surprisingly as they are finally generating chances, even though they haven’t scored. Their Penalty Kill lines and their Power Play need work still, and that’s primarily what is holding them back, but it’s not as hopeless as previous years is what I’m saying. But also to add on, it’s as they have said, the top 6 is learning and adjusting to a brand new gameplan every night. We’re 6 games in, let’s not hit panic just yet. There’s still a lot of time, and if they win 3-4 in a row then it almost makes up for this.
@@254zero 20-30 games is not half a season , he's trying to teach soft lazy players to be accountable on the ice when they don't have the puck , not gonna happen overnight
@254zero For 2 seasons, bad habits have taken over this team. I don't think it'll take half a season, but this team might take going into November to get things straightened out. Even a trade or 2 might have to happen to get things going in the right direction.
Adams needs to go buy out skinner doesn't use the money trades Savoie for McCloud doesn't go and get a top 6 center gets rid of mittlestadt why should he keep his job
Unloading Savoie on EDM was a plus but otherwise meh...
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To be perfectly honest. Time to move the team to a new city for a fresh restart. Arizona Coyotes doing a lot better in Utah. Just saying. I know fans don’t want to hear it, but this team needs an entire rebranding at this point.
Don’t say that. Worse thing possibly to say. It’s about supporting the team regardless. Not letting a franchise move out of the area. Makes no sense. No reason to care then. The team is what makes anyone care. Even if you don’t. You stick with the bad times to get to the good times. How sweet it is.
@@TheCasualMarkyou answered your own question. Imagine I bought a billion dollar electrical company and didn't understand how to wire a lamp. That's the sabres.
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I gotta say yesterday was the first time I seriously considered the possibility of them folding. They likely need a talent rebuild, so we are talking like three years until they are a playoff team MAYBE. Attendance could plummet even harder. I live in the southern tier and absolutely nobody talks about or even remembers the sabres at this point. It's a calamity.
13 years ago, there was hope. Then it became frustration, then anger. I think it then went to sadness and then to laughter. All these emotions are fine. However, we are now getting very close to apathy. Once that happens, bye bye Sabres.
I'm numb
100% agree. I think we're starting to see that like all of these current players we were somewhat looking forward to just aren't that good. I also think we've had an issue with rushing prospects because we've been so atrocious that management is probably more desperate than they would normally be with other teams.
I've been saying this for the last 2 years. As soon as we signed Cozens to 7m a year I knew it was over for the next coming years. Too much money on undeserving players and they had messed up all the developmental stages by never employing good coaches or good veterans to teach them how to play. the high draft picks clouded theyre head and the sabres assumed they were all good to come straight to the league. Wasted Youth.
Players only produce in contract years. However, thr team is built wrong they need a top center and more veterans.
Mid-Season? How about tomorrow? Kevyn Adams has shown he's got no fucking clue on how to build an NHL roster. People need to stop calling Columbus a bad team because they beat the real worst team in the NHL. And yes Joe, the season is over. They're not good enough to dig themselves out of this hole. I'd rather they forfeit the season than try and salvage what's left. I don't care about the draft, let them take the year off, go back to basics and re-learn how to play the game. They can't trade anyone because no one wants what we have and no one wants to come here. This is not funny, or is it a joke it's a fucking tragedy. They're ripping the hearts out of this fanbase. It's hockey Hell. I'd say let's set up a day to go down to the arena and picket the owner and the team. What do we want? Adams fired! when do we want it? Now! What do we want? SELL THE TEAM TERRY! When do we want it? 13 years ago!!!!!! It's a travesty how bad this team is being run. There needs to be a change!
Sell the Bills as well! Bring back Ralph C Wilson who didn’t make playoffs
The only problem i have with firing Adams is who is gonna do it differently? What GM can come here and get players to want to come here? Are players not coming here cause of Adams or the team? Let's be honest, the GM isn't the biggest problem, its the 13-year drought. Gotta get to the playoffs, and then even Adams can get good players in here to help. Cozens is in his head and needs to sit and talk with a psychologist, I'm hoping Quinn is still working through the Achille injury or he is also playing scared. It's really the 2nd line that's holding us back. I cant understand why its one thing all the time every other game. Its either the Offense cant score, D cant defend or the goalies play like they belong in the ECHL. This team can never have all 3 phases going at once, aside from the Panthers game and 1 game outta 6 so far cant be the trend here or it will never work. I still love this team but who can really fix this? I cant think of anyone except the players need to perform correctly and get us in the playoffs. Too many times switching HC and GMs at different times so the players are drafted for the right coach but the HC is fired, new one comes in and then cant use this roster so the GM drafts players for this HC and then it takes too long and the GM gets fired and then they hire a new GM and that GM doesnt like ceratin players that were drafted so he trades them and new players come in and they dont fit the HC so again the HC gets fired and the cycle continues. Wanna know why Regier and Ruff had so much success? Continuity, they built and coached the team for 16 years, they drafted and traded and built it for Ruff's style and Regier made those trades and drafts focused on Ruff's style. Hire a GM and a HC at the same time and keep it for 5 years or so and then you might see the change necessary to get back to the playoffs. Too much switching mid 5 year plan, stick it out, it takes times to overhaul a roster. Adams built the team this way, so if you get a new HC then its either the players or Adams, if its the players that dont fit, take out the ones that dont and get ones that do and keep Adams to get the right ones and keep continuity, if its Adams then fire him and get a GM that is familiar with Ruff and what he wants and do the same. In the end, if its the players, then firing Adams wont change it cause the new GM can do the same and Adams actually drafts very well and his trades arent terrible so maybe just clean up the roster and keep the HC and GM. Go Sabres!
Great points. We don’t want Buffalo to become the 1990s and 2000s Cleveland Browns. Our fans should be careful what they wish for because this could all get so much worse. I think the team just needs to play this out right now
Yeah they should fire Samuelson
Put Bryson in
He’s not even that bad. Jokiharju should be traded.
Samuelsson and jokiharju AHL level players.
@@s98247 Samuelsson actually looked really good before the injuries started piling up. Could be injuries took away some of his natural ability and that he just doesn't have the brain to compensate for it. Jokiharju never really looked consistently good.
Yes do it now! The idea of building a stronger 3rd line and not improving the top two lines have been a catastrophic decision so far. We did absolutely nothing to improve the first two lines in the offseason and here we are worse than last season heading for another top-five pick.
This start of the season has absolutely CRUSHED all bright side expectations of I've had of UPL and Levi... of course, our lack of talent sure doesn't help
The MOST frustrating thing is that the problem is not so obvious. I’ve often thought that they lack offensive talent, but they’re scoring; their defense looks bad, but they have tons of talent; GMKA says the right things, but the talent/leadership/commitment doesn’t seem to be there. One thing is clear: goaltending is mediocre at best-unacceptable for a team that dares to dream playoffs.
Even though I agree on the most things, I disagree regarding the goaltending. At least this year. UPL and Levi are good but forwards are not backchecking and blocking shots, defense are allowing A grade chances. Even with Bobrowsky or Vasilevsky in net, the results would still be the same.
fire adams and rebrand everything to black and red. blue and gold is now a symbol of misery
Where to start!! Been following Sabres since the beginning so not new to this neighborhood. Adams has done nothing except make alot of other teams Stanley Cup winners/contenders. Tired of seeing Sabres draft picks shine in other places. There is a proverbial all star team of recent draftees playing somewhere else. Sabres are weak with no fight or push back. They reached for Lindy this summer. What was the hurry? You maybe could have gotten Keefe. But no one else was taking Lindy. Watching the Sabres and their effort is worse than watching a bad AHL team. I think Hershey could beat the Sabres. They are a laughing stock and that is a shame because Buffalo and its loyal fans deserve so much more. Good bye Lindy and good bye Adam’s. Thank you.
Adams was grasping straws with Lindy as a last resort
It’s almost like hiring a guy to be your GM whose only experience was managing the junior Sabres was a terrible idea……..
Ding, ding, ding, WE HAVE THE WINNER !!! Yea, who would have thought it might have been a terrible idea, right? LOLSabres certainly didn't and never do it seems. This team and poeple running it, man...unreal stupidity that never ends.
Is it a strange idea that eventualy Lindy would be the new GM in a while?
Our whole team sucks....especially our goaltending
Great Video. I thought that GM Kevyn Adams did A Decent Job, when he got Hall, Staal & others, but, he ruined it by Not Firing Ralph Krueger, who had wasted all of That Talent. I'm also of the view, that he did A Decent Job in getting some of these players (Thompson, Tuch & others) rather than only losing O'Reilly, Eichel & others for nothing, however, rather than building on that, Adams is only making tweaks the last 2 seasons, rather than make A Few Major Changes. Therefore I think that it's time to have him relieved of His GM Duties, even if they keep him in a capacity. I think that they should move on from him completely, even if getting Lindy Ruff, it's too little too late. Please let me know what you think.
This team is no better than when Adams took over...if you can't improve the team in 4.5 yrs fire him. Pegula keeps hiring GM's with no experience and he still hasn't learned experience counts. It's time to trade some of these players Samuelsson sux, you hardly hear Quinn's name during the game, Thompson takes a dumb penalty and Pitt capitalized on it to win in OT. The team plays sloppy and yet the big word was accountability since Ruff was hired. Adam's comes back with the same d-men that were piss poor last year and the same asst coach who was responsible for them.
If Pegula has lost interest in the team and only cares about the Bills and his new stadium so be it...sell the team to someone who cares and will keep the team here.
There comes a time to grow a set and be an owner and not a fan boy. Adams is probably a nice guy as was Okposo and Girgensons but there is a time you cut ties and Pegula doesn't seem to understand that. Scotty Bowman in his prime couldn't get this bunch into the playoffs. I could go on and on but what's the use as things will never change as long as Pegula is the owner.
No trade clauses no one wants to come here we're stuck
We need to fix the D, there is no speed at all with - Power and Samuelson, I like Bryan, Dahlin, Ryan Johnson and Joki…. Power needs to wake up…. We need more offensive defensemen… We need to rush the D into the offensive zone more not stupid passes and flips out if the zone
Here's a hint....they're not that good
Krebs is a playmaker not a 4 line mucker. Let him center cozens and either Quinn Kulich or Peterka. Quit using players in the wrong positions. Get Gilbert in the lineup LET RUFF HIRE HIS OWN STAFF
This season feels like a terrible sequel to a bad movie! Last season was horrible enough, yet this somehow feels worse.
SELL THE TEAM
The only GM that they should have hired was The Former Chicago Blackhawks/Current Edmonton Oilers GM Stan Bowman, who built 3 Stanley Cup Chicago Blackhawks in The 2010s. Even his last move, in Getting Seth Jones might've been An Overpayment, but, he's Good In Chicago. Other than him, I really can't think of anybody, other than Former GM Ken Holland, who I think didn't want to continue. Let me know what you think
This team needs one of those galvanizing moments, if that is the right word. Something to bring them together. A line brawl or something like that.
A little bit of overreaction based off our expectations of course. I think we'll turn around mix up the lines maybe make a hockey trade.
Does it matter if we fire Adams? It’s not like any GM is going to overcome the systemic problems that we’re facing in trying to perpetually rebuild. We’re looking at more high first round draft picks and eventually trading Dahlin, Cozens, Power for even draft picks. No significant free agent signings should be expected given what free agency has become in the league. Hopefully Ruff can get better play out of the kids but we are effectively an AHL team. We develop young players like Reinhart and Eichel to win Cups elsewhere…
Where is the video after a win?
I wish you owned the team Joe.
I doubt it but Adams is on his third coach and so far other than the outlier yr in 22-23 the same issues are still plaguing them today which you would think would have improved with experience. Team still struggles under pressure on the boards in the D zone, lack of O zone sustained puck possession, erratic SOG, PP being poo poo and PK is now in the 70s percentage. Adams on more than one occasion has stated he knows how to build winning teams but the pudding says no proof. He brought Lindy in to save his hide and all it did was expose how the team is not built correctly. Sidenote, the 3rd and 4th lines are better, that's not sarcasm. Much better than what they've had and they are contributing. This team needs Cozens, Quinn and Samuelsson to get hot, only way other teams would be interested in trading for them.
When pegula purchased the sabres he said he will go all out and get top of the line scouts, trainers, etc.....He must have for gotten about getting a GM - we had 5 since and have gone no where. Giving big $ to a player after one good year is not the way to go..It was the same with Botterill, skinner scores 40 gets 9 mil for 8 yrs and hasn't done that again
The Mittelstadt trade destroyed us. He was way more important than many thought.
bs…we stole from the avs…
Nobody should be fired at mid season. I’m sick & tired of Pegula’s stupid hockey decisions. Adams hired Ruff so he & Lindy deserves at least one year to get them back into the playoffs.
I kept saying Adam's would get fired however I never thought it would be this early but it needs to happen. Defensively they are a mess and Lindy Ruff doesn't know what to do. Someone has to be sacrificed for Mr. Pegula to save face.. they have the talent but the coaching staff and front office is a mess. It can be turned around but not with the current regime.
Firing Adams isn't gonna fix it if it's the players, Adams has built this roster for three different HCs, see a problem there? Each coach likes and utilizes each player differently. Ever wonder why Regier and Ruff worked well together? They did it for 16 years! They worked off each other. Ruff: I like this guy, I think he would fit this team and how I'm coaching them" Regier: "I'll go get him" you need a HC and GM working together for at least 5 years solidly. You can fire Adams but it's the players that are failing the HC cause they were built and signed long term for Granato, they like to play a different style than Ruff. You either have the wrong HC for this group or the wrong group for the HC. Adams can't get the right roster construction if 3 different HCs want 3 different systems. I don't think a different GM is gonna make the trades needed that Adams couldn't cause it's Adams inability to do so, it's the 13 years playoffs drought that's the problem. Only way to fix this is make the playoffs, you have to make the playoffs. You can fire and trade left and right but if the result isn't the playoffs and the HC to GM continuity isn't there it will never work. You can fire Adams, Ruff isn't staying for 5 more years IMO so the next GM would have to build for the next HC, is that Appert? Someone else? Need to know that before you fired Adams and hire a new GM, you need to know who you are building the roster for for the next 5 years or this will keep happening
Professional sports is foremost business. If the owner doesn't know how to run that business, it will fail and fans will be miserable. Why sometimes it's wise to look into who is running the franchise before supporting that team.
Sabres had talked to Don Waddell before Waddell signed on with the CBJ. I assume that Adams was involved in that process, so I think that Adams will simply move to president and a new GM will take his place.
None of us will live long enough to see another Middlestadt...in Buffalo.
sabres need to just sign 3 veteran snipers and quit with the experimental prospects
As a long time fan they have lost me as a fan I don't deserve this bull crap every season while pegula lines his pockets
Where is James Patrick these days?
hiding with an unlisted phone number....
Look Terry kept this franchise in Buffalo and ill be forever grateful but he has to get serious about the state of this fanbase. The 13 year drought has made us all desperate to see some post season action and Terry needs to get the right people running this club. Cant have his buddies or unproven talent but actual proven winners even if it costs an arm or a leg because no one is showing up to watch the longest running playoff drought team not play good hockey.
u dont do that…
FIRE TERRY!
Ya you mean the only owner that’s actually spent on this team sure. Idiot.
Without the Pegula’s get ready for a penny pinching owner like Golisano or an owner who will move the team elsewhere.
I just figure they sell and bring AMERICANS to Buffalo. Cheaper tickets and Buffalo still has hockey
Lets be honest. The talent is there but there is no GRIT whatsoever!!! Fkin get your heart in the game!!!
Quenville
I'm pretty sure that not even biggest Sabres pessimists didn't envision or expected Sabres players and team as a whole to look and be this bad, which makes this really worrisome, and looks very ugly and bleak. I'm affraid that whole Sabres core is rotten, apart from few bright young players, and that they will need to blow it all up, from top to bottom. Bring Pat LaFontaine or some other respected hockey person as President of hockey operations, who will decide on Lindy Ruff after this season, but will demand complete purge of assistant coaches that they failed to do when they brought back Lindy. All I know is, Kevin Adams is and never was fit for this position. Pegula needs to give reigns to knowledgeble hockey smarts, and not rookie projects like Adams, who is feel good kool aid mouthpiece, and not veteran GM this team desperatly needs.
Bring back Jacob Bryson so we can have some decent passing out of the d zone.
Take it easy young fans.. Talk to me after a quarter season. Cause we could fire off a 4 or 5 game win streak 😂 & will be signing a completely different tune. So until it hopeless, let’s grovel over the last game at this moment…
Lindy didn't put this team together. We should feel lucky Lindy has squeezed as much as he had out of this goof troupe...
No shortage of depth of quality players here..the failure to hire an energetic Head Coach and staff has been stunning. Watching players go to other teams and win Cup.
Really disillusioning. I am NHL fan at large who grew up in New England played Women’s college hockey in the 70’s and went on to work in ice hockey in LA and growing sport in California. Retired to Vegas and VGK here came along some years later.
It’s on some level hard to fail to the extent this Sabres organization has done that. If you have an enthusiastic management group it is so possible to succeed. In LA we began with a young entrepreneur who developed a recreational league and ice rinks. Kings and Lakers practice facility was land he secured after success of local hockey.
It is so doable to succeed here. But ownership needs to overhaul his management and bring along a coaching staff. Either Bruce Boudreau or Gerard Gallant are players coaches who could generate optimism and fun and plenty of winning for your fanbase. It would be a place to start a much deserved reset.
There ISN"T a depth of quality players here. Paid too much too soon
@@aaa7189 You are right! I stand corrected. Looking at this year’s roster it is a patchwork ..and doesn’t reflect well on GM choices in off season. 🍃
@@mercywilliams2698 Q: who are the agitators on this team ? 0
@@aaa7189 Well certainly Dahlin getting into a decisive scrum with Peyton Krebs during a practice shows some of that!
Jordan Greenway always played a physical up tempo game and has been scoring. Alex Tuch has great offensive energy. Tage Thompson good with the shots on net. I think Dylan Cozens is the prototype for finding effective head coaching. He is an agitator but undisciplined when the game lacks structure or focus. A results oriented coach addresses that.
The energy and will to succeed is here. But as I have been posting for a number of seasons ..the management has lacked the vision to hire a coach who has the skill set to drive a team of this sort..many seasons without post season appearances. You need that guy who can lead and while Lindy Ruff was terrific here..time passages..now a coach who is that much older . Boudreau or Gallant aren’t young either! But both have had winning outcomes in recent years..they’re less favored at this point likely because neither is analytics prompted.
@@mercywilliams2698 On day 1, pegula said he get will the top scouts, trainers, etc. He must have forgotten about the GM. We had had 5 and how has that worked out ? The D needs to improve (some are overpaid) Stop watching the puck while the opponent is open in front of our net, they can't clear the net and are not physical enough. Like I said, too soon to give them that kind of money. How did that work out with skinner, after one 40 goal season - he is given 9 mil a year and hasn't hit that mark again.
we were literally better with Granado, Lindy will get fired after this year. Lindy, GM , whole restucture is what we need, we need to offload half of our roster, including Quinn and Cozens, keep Peterka hes pretty good, Thompsons upside is still great, Kulich will be awesome eventually, everybody else sucks Dahlin and Power are okay I think Power kinda looks better than Dahlin this year.
😂 power sucks
They should have hired Quinnville not Ruff in the first place but I’m assuming he would rather stay unemployed they try and coach this dumpster fire of a roster.
Joe,they Lost the game,and played a Porous 'D' throughout,saying to fire someone is off the rails! You did make some great points! I like your show a lot but not this type of reactionary crap! Get back to the grind, C'Mon Sabres! And still 100% believe in Devon Levi!
Byram, McLeod, Levi, JJ, and Quinn are RFA’s next off-season. How in the world could Pegula trust Adams to negotiate those contracts?
7x7 for all of them. What could go wrong?
Anyone wanna name a g.m.???..
This team will be 1-6-1 by next week, no playoffs and possible rebuild again on the horizon.
Its such typical Buffalo fashion that we get a 1st overall pick finally. The 1st one was supposed to be the next Nicholas Lindstrom or a defensive Datsyuk but ends up being a joke of a defenseman with no flash or strong points anywhere in his game. Then u get the 1st overall pick few yrs later & the draft class is probably one of the weakest in past 10 yrs & they take another defenseman who sucks COMPLETE a$$ & was a waste of a pick. Its just the way everything goes with this franchise even goin back to when we missed out by losing the draft lottery & had to get eichel. Just such a sad sad sad pathetic existence & I thought I'd never not wanna watch or cheer for the sabres but im now 100% at that point. I could honestly care less about them.
I mean, our core is the youngest core in the NHL. At times, it looks like they're boys playing against men.
Oh lord come on with the youngest core in the NHL excuse that’s been the excuse the entire 4.5 years of Adams tenure
@ojsglove6221 it is not an excuse this is the reality. Everybody wants instant potatoes or microwavable TV dinner that looks and tastes like a five-star restaurant. Look how long it took the Bills.
@@Sabres1970 They still play like weaklings this is not a coaching issue it’s on the players and the GM who assembled the team. Plain and simple. Fans have been seeing this BS for 13 years there’s no more valid excuses for Adams it’s put up or show up.
@ojsglove6221 trust me, I'm with you on that. I don't think it's a coach issue either, especially with having Ruff back. That game against Pittsburgh, that main core been together for 20 years now, our inexperienced showed. They got to get back to playing free and having fun out there every single one of them besides JJ are holding their sticks too damn tight
@@Sabres1970 Kevyn Adams is that you?
Please. 8.5 for powers should finish him off.
Which powers
I think I gotta stop watching you, Joe
Dude, six games played and they’re not making the playoffs. Come on. You guys are already trying to sell the team. If you sell the team they move.
It's not like they are gritting out some tough losses. They are total poop. Spades are spades and the sabres are junk.
Team developed a lot of bad habits under Granato. It might take 15 to 30+ games to change those bad habits.
finally somebody who gets it. Lindy inherited a team that played soft for 3 yrs. and rarely finished a body check. Give Lindy at least 20 games to toughen them up and implement his tight checking system ,they had to easy under Granato
@@steveb1962Hope you don’t mind but I’m gonna toss ya guys some fun stats I found while looking at MoneyPuck.
But as of right now the Sabres are in the top half of the league for 5 on 5 and in their Power Play surprisingly as they are finally generating chances, even though they haven’t scored. Their Penalty Kill lines and their Power Play need work still, and that’s primarily what is holding them back, but it’s not as hopeless as previous years is what I’m saying.
But also to add on, it’s as they have said, the top 6 is learning and adjusting to a brand new gameplan every night. We’re 6 games in, let’s not hit panic just yet. There’s still a lot of time, and if they win 3-4 in a row then it almost makes up for this.
This team doesn't have half a season to figure it out. By then playoffs are missed for the 14th year in a row
@@254zero 20-30 games is not half a season , he's trying to teach soft lazy players to be accountable on the ice when they don't have the puck , not gonna happen overnight
@254zero
For 2 seasons, bad habits have taken over this team. I don't think it'll take half a season, but this team might take going into November to get things straightened out. Even a trade or 2 might have to happen to get things going in the right direction.
Midseason? 6 games in. Feeding the trolls for clicks.
Avalanche are winless.
Columbus played for Johnny.
Fuck this bullshit.
Mid season? I would have let him go after that panic trade for McLeod
Hellooooooo Houston.
Adams needs to go buy out skinner doesn't use the money trades Savoie for McCloud doesn't go and get a top 6 center gets rid of mittlestadt why should he keep his job
Unloading Savoie on EDM was a plus but otherwise meh...
To be perfectly honest. Time to move the team to a new city for a fresh restart. Arizona Coyotes doing a lot better in Utah. Just saying. I know fans don’t want to hear it, but this team needs an entire rebranding at this point.
Don’t say that. Worse thing possibly to say. It’s about supporting the team regardless. Not letting a franchise move out of the area. Makes no sense. No reason to care then. The team is what makes anyone care. Even if you don’t. You stick with the bad times to get to the good times. How sweet it is.
I don’t understand how moving the team helps them win. It’s the same organization just relocated (minus the owner).
@@TheCasualMarkyou answered your own question.
Imagine I bought a billion dollar electrical company and didn't understand how to wire a lamp. That's the sabres.
Lindy was a horrible hire
This is way more on Adams how about put a better team around him lmao