@@PeteOnPurpose Don't get it, the wholesale price of lpg went down earlier this year and at current prices they are still making plenty money. Liz Truss says that profit is not a dirty word but on common sense matters it seems it quite clearly is.
@@begachka That tells you how much they really care about the environment. They prefer high taxes so they can feed the ever-growing bureaucratic machine or give our money to their buddies like Greta.
In Bulgaria, approximately 20% of all personal cars are working on LPG, even hybrids like Toyota Prius and Honda Insight etc. Perhaps 99% of all gas stations have LPG spots. LPG is always filled up by an employee of the gas station and you never do it alone. LPG prices are at least twice and in many occasions 2.5 times lower than petrol or diesel. Additional benefit of having an LPG System is that depending on your car, usually you are able to drive over 1200 miles without refilling (when using both of your tanks - LPG and Petrol one after another). LPG is in fact much more environment friendly than both P and D and in big cities it is waaay better. Even much older cars can produce less emissions working on LPG than modern petrol and diesel engines. Almost any engine could work on LPG and installing such system could be done for under one working day by one guy. However, the most benefits are obvious for cars with bigger engines and high annual mileage. Usually, the price of installing such system is already spared after the first 10k miles on LPG. Maintenance is cheap and rare. I am not a professional, but I travel over 50k miles a year and for me, even small differences in price per mile is significant in long term so naturally all my cars are working on LPG.
Firstly, it is Dual not Duel - Duel means to fight. Having run LPG cars since the 1980s, a few points I need to perhaps improve you on. For wear and tear - not about being a cleaner burning fuel, more about it being is a gaseous, which unlike atomised petroleum fuel, doesn’t dissolve the thin oil layer on your cylinder bores (so called “bore washing”). So, whilst the upper cylinder does wear a lot less due to this, it doesn’t necessarily prolong the life of other parts of the engine. Also being a gas (dry), the valves and valve seats do wear a lot more, due to the lack of lubrication from the petrol but they don’t carbon up in the intake system and combustion chamber. We put a new head gasket on an engine which had 350,000 km and the original hone marks were still visible in the cylinders and very little carbon to be seen anywhere. It also doesn’t pollute the oil, so even in old engines, when you drain the oil it comes out like a brown ale and not like a Guinness in colour. They do lose a little power because LPG is a gas and petrol is a vapor/atomised (a mist), so it displaces air during induction, so your engine can not breath as well (think high altitude has less oxygen). The downside is that they use more fuel due as their fuel metering systems are generally very old tech mixers, which are very simple carburettors, so they are nowhere near the economy of a modern EFI engine. So, whilst being a lot cheaper per litre, your actual costs per KM isn’t as good. Like your comparison, I get very similar costs per KM for an LPG 2.7L 4-cylinder automatic vs 2.0 Turbo Diesel manual, despite diesel being twice as expensive.
I live in turkey and its the fate of any old car to run on lpg because of fuel prices. The availability is the same as gasoline in here, almost every station has a lpg pump. The biggest cons here are you have to pay extra during inspection and your car will be banned from entering underground car parks (its stupid so most people ignore it, modern kits have a safety valve that shuts off the tanks output completely the moment you turn the ignition off), but sadly in my country there are many bad examples of conversions, left out safety bits, engines losing power, burning valves because of bad adjustments etc. my own car, a 1974 beetle also runs on the stuff, and i do the adjustments on my own and its really happy running on lpg, no loss of power and if anything its more reliable because i dont need to worry about jets getting clogged, i can drive flat out for hours with no worries of overheating at all.
I bought a duster 2022 bifuel, it actually gains 10 bhp on lpg. It’s been designed to run on it and was done in the factory. Todays prices 19/5/22 was 72.7p a litre. 40 litres £32. Less than half price!
I live in Bulgaria, it's on every petrol station, alot of people have LPG converted cars, if it's a nice modern system, you don't lose performance, it injects it into the chamber.
The last time LPG was pushed for dual fuel cars in the UK, the government hiked the price massively. So much so, in fact, that the slightly worse MPG it gives compared to unleaded petrol made it a futile escapade. Also, engines run so hot that engine valves take a real hammering. A chap I know had his Vauxhall Vectra dual fuel car eat its valves in no time. That aside, the powers that be won't ever allow us cheap motoring in the long term - too much loss in tax revenue !
Thanks for your input Michael I had never even heard of LPG before we started looking at campers, hopefully our valves hang on whilst we make it round Ireland. Sounds right about the government anything to keep the taxes up, makes more sense why we don't have more LPG in the country then.
Lpg system are fine as long as they are fitted and maintained properly…my Mercedes’ was converted over 11 years ago, when the mileage was at 165000….My car now has 276000 miles on the clock…still going strong..
The valve issues were sorted quite a while ago, if you are running a motor which is still susceptible to valve wear then you can have a lubrication system installed for about 50 quid with your conversion, it's about 20 quid for a refill of fluid every few thousand miles. Certainly cheaper than refilling AdBlue. Technology eh!
UK govt is moving away from LPG even though we have an abundance of it and sell most of it away from the UK. Though it is more economical and better for the environment, the idiots in Government have given the industry clear indication that LPG should be on the way our and so in the last few years the number of LPG outlets has dropped below 1,000 nationwide to as low as 600 nationwide. It's baffling. We are scrapping perfectly good cars in the UK in favour of buying new ones. The carbon cost is much higher in producing a new car and most scrappage schemes do not offer enough to buy a new model anyway but it would be enough for a certified conversion. It's a no brainer. We should be converting more cars, encouraging manufacturers to produce more LPG cars and increasing investment in the LPG sector to increase availability. It's a winner all round except maybe for car producers who will see a drop in new car purchases, for car finance companies who will also see a drop in profits and interest and lastly it will be a negative for big oil if less people are using less petrol and diesel. The new government should reverse the current trajectory of LPG and back it. R&D should also be looked at to combine PHEV with LPG.
Lpg is getting to harder to find over the past couple of years in the uk. I'm looking at installing a bulk tank so I can fill up our lpg vehicles rather than not getting it on forecourts. Annoying that it's greener fuel to run than all over fuels but the UK are dropping it and just to let you know don't be fooled by the electric car hype.you wait and see!! Stupid in my opinion...
On long trips where lpg is not always available can turn the system off on hwy cruising where you don't consume a lot anyways and just turn back ok for stop go traffic or city drives. Great savings 😊
I converted a small( less than one litre) car and cant really notice any power difference, which i was concerned about as its only a 60hp car. But i had no problems at all, Its super super cheap to run, in fact even cheaper than my motorcycle now so I'm well happy. There are about 3 petrol garages along my route into work which is a 40 mile trip so its not so bad to find places. I fill up along work, if i didn't id have to drive a bit (15mins) to fill up where I live. I spent £1300 on conversion but my car is only a two cylinder turbo which makes it slightly cheaper to convert than the average car.
This is very interesting. I hadn't heard of lpg until pretty much this week. I'm 30 and finally looking into getting myself a set of wheels (late to the game i know lol) been doing my research between deisel, petrol and an e-vehicle or hybrid. Mostly trying to evaluate running costs and availability over the initial purchase of the vehicle. This was really helpful in helping me understand lpg as its certainly far less talked about over other options. Thanks!
Wait until you learn about CNG or methane conversion kits. Though they come with a lot more trade-offs and caveats compared to propane, like the inability to install the tank in the place of your spare tire so as not to trade off your trunk space. But refuelling costs 3 times cheaper than gas and it's basically as clean as a hybrid, if not better than that. If one works as a taxi driver full-time, it's worth investing in a system like that due to not needing lots of free space in the trunk - provided that you have enough methane stations in your city. Methane is getting increasingly more popular in Russia and other countries, while almost every sensible driver going long ranges has already switched to propane, which is basically the golden ratio for riding cheap and not having to make many trade-offs. The toroidal propane tanks, which are installed in the place of your spare tire, have become a game-changer for those interested in converting to propane.
Ive been running LPG cars since 2011 when I bought a Land Cruiser 4.7v8 which had already been converted; at 16 to the gallon it was quite necessary. Whenever I buy a petrol car I get it converted right away, my latest is only a little 1.6 that does about 35mpg but it's a nice simple engine without any expensive high tech parts, as I've seen petrol surge beyond 2 quid a litre I'm still paying 75-84p per litre of LPG and sometimes even less if you are near to a flogas outlet. If you put the conversion onto a credit card and use the savings to pay it off you'll be in profit after about 7-8000 miles these days. Bargain.
The TV program "Wheeler Dealers" did a two part video on how to covert an old Land Rover to LPG (Autogas) which can be found, here on RUclips. Also, the RAC give advice on their website on the very same subject. I think we are going to hear a lot more about this in the coming months with fuels still set to rise even higher, thanks to Putin.
Anecdotally, our local conversion garage a decent sized waiting list, there is definitely demand once again but at 2 quid for a litre of petrol is anyone surprised, particularly when they're lashing out at diesels
thanks to Putin - NO Thanks to a wholly corrupt Chinese/US government AND the M$N.. The EU countries have well and truly shot themselves in the foot - and Vlad told them straight what the outcome would be. What happened? German politicians laughed in his face. New, to keep GM industry going I believe they're still buying Vlads gas - but through a third party - so as not to loose face or the GM industrial output.
Hi from Costa Rica, I have a Renault (Dacia in Europe) Sandero Stepway that I recently converted to LPG, mileage is amazing and LPG is relatively easy to find. Petrol is like €0.66 a liter and LPG is like €0.25, so is less than half.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I had no idea LPG was banned by Le Shuttle and I go to France often. Winter time using the shuttle is way more comfy instead of a rough sea. I always saw the option on their website and assumed it was fine.
If i run my 2000 town car on gasoline, i will have to throw out 25 euros for 100km in fully urban scenario, when i run LPG i have to spend 12 euros for the same thing.
I ran and converted 3 cars 🚙 at total cost of £3800 for all Three cars 🚘 🚗 ran them almost 200k miles on LPG between 2006-2018 12 years saved more thousands on fuel ⛽️ but the main 3 issues first the cost of LPG is going up so close to Petrol ⛽️ second is availability of LPG is difficult even with Filllpg app and finally the conversion costs are going up as most petrol ⛽️ cars 🚙 are now direct injection engine requirements for complex conversion are £2000+ up to £3500 for some cars 🚙 so seriously a good diesel ⛽️ cars get 50-60mpg making the LPG not worth the hassle imho and the death nail is that many new ULEZ don’t acknowledge any LPG conversion making LPG not even a transition fuel of choice in the UK but other parts of world such as Turkey 🇹🇷 and Poland 🇵🇱 things are very different where LPG is still a viable option for many as I found in my recent trip to Poland 🎉
Interesting, yes it definitely seems like LPG is not as popular as it once was. However travelling in Europe it has been very easy to get hold of and a very good price. 😀
Did she mix herself up when she said that running the same distance on petrol was more expensive than running the same distance on LPG..... Surely, price per mile, LPG is cheaper yes? Gee, that was a confusing video to say the least. There was no concise information on what they were comparing with what. Secondly, the introduction of the "Ireland" tangent was difficult to understand the purpose for. Like, if LPG is more expensive in Ireland, which is what I think that she was suggesting "might" be the case, do we know if petrol is cheaper, or more expensive than LPG over there. Really, I can not help but come to the conclusion that this whole video is a confusing waste of time to watch.... basically a word-salad dump to camera, and for what?
I am Australian and own a dedicated LPG powered Ford Falcon. I am paying half for my fuel to what petrol powered cars are costing. The only downside is the number of outlets selling LPG for cars. In some cities in Australia you will only find 1 outlet that sells LPG.
I'm from new Zealand as was considering getting one Is it better to get a lpg only or Multi fuel tank petrol and LPG where you can switch over does it require special oil and servicing/maintenance compared to a normal car what are the major downsides and it it worth getting one also In new Zealand we have a thing called RUC witch stand for road user cost For Diesel it's $40 for every 1000 KM you have to have a special rego under your windscreen You also have to have one for lpg but it won't tell me anywhere the cost of it and I couldn't find it so I gotta to some hunting for how much the taxes are for lpg
As I don’t know the costs etc of LPG or LPG conversion in NZ I can’t make an educated comment. In Australia the conversion to dual fuel (LPG and petrol) is over AUD3000. The LPG cylinder is quite large and takes up about half the boot size of a regular family sedan. My car is a Ford Falcon wagon but as it is dedicated LPG, I don’t have a petrol tank as well. It runs entirely on gas. To convert a regular petrol engine to run on dual fuel, the engine does need specialised equipment for things to work. Other than that a car will run very well on gas. I have had 2 dual fuel vehicles in the past and whether running on petrol or gas, I personally couldn’t tell the difference although I have been told that gas is slightly underpowered compared to petrol. But my advice would be to make local enquiries to auto LPG installers in your country. You could consult the internet or your local Royal Auto Club.
@@garyholt4445 thanks been very keen on one when you say multi duel fuel you mean it can run on petrol and LPG or is it specifically lpg only I have a hybrid right now and a car that runs on e100 Ethanol but that's expensive and I need a good daily haha I don't know anywhere that installs LPG where I live I know where to buy it and cars like for Falcon utes or Barra xr6 that have been converted to lpg but I'm trying my best to get a bit more information on them before buying one They are also making hydrogen cars in new Zealand now you can buy them but I wouldn't have a bloody clue about those either just trying to get some fuel efficient and reliable cheers 😅🙏
@@Janawhitej1 Go to your search engine. Google is best. Type in AUTO LPG CONVERSIONS IN ………then whatever city or town you live in. There will be places that do LPG conversions. My car has a 4 litre Barra engine. You will find your car runs cleaner and the oil stays as clean as the day you put it in.
Something I didn’t address in my previous response. Dual fuel I refer to is petrol and LPG. I first owned a dual fuel car in 2008. It was a 2002 Ford Falcon. The gas tank was in the boot. It had a 2 way switch on the dash board, one way was to switch to gas and the other way to switch to petrol. As the car was fuel injected, the switch over was automatic. I bought a Toyota HiAce camper and had it modified with an LPG conversion. Because it had a carburettor the operation was slightly different. If I ran out of LPG, I would switch to petrol at the touch of a button but it would take the motor several seconds for the fuel pump to pump petrol from the petrol tank to the carburettor. If I wanted to switch back to gas I had to hit the button to close the fuel pump and run the excess petrol out of the carburettor then hit the button again to start the flow of the gas. The change from one fuel source to the other was best done on a downhill slope if the vehicle was in motion.
My buddy had his 3.5 litre Nissan Elgrand converted last year. Saves him a fortune, he does have to have a drip addative a couple of times a year for the valves. His car and all the kit its got, plus the conversion cost less than half, what he would have paid for the Transporter or Vito he was going to buy
Are you sure about that 20% discrepancy?, having owned a couple of lpg vehicles in the past, the calorific value to petrol is less than 10%, and because of the increase in ethanol in petrol (e10), and the fact lpg has a high octane rating, the difference ought to be negligible.
I was paying 74c per litre in Australia for LPG at the same time this video was made. $1 AUD = 53 P (GBP) at the time. The UK is very, very expensive. I'd bet that the price is even much cheaper in the USA than Australia.
I have an lpg van in the south island, New Zealand 🇳🇿 it seems that I can only get lpg in Christchurch now and there is no app to find other filling stations 😢 It's all over the news climate change lpg could be part of the solution.
We have only LPG cars in our family. LPG is much better fuel and there is even moders that can get 1000hp with LPG in my country. Reason why there are "cons" is beacause of bad servicing and instalation of LPG. LPG is igniting faster than gasoline and Valves sometimes doesn't close fast enough and they get burned. You just need to change ignition settings on software. Second thing is loss of horsepower. Another mith that is hurting LPG. With 4 gen LPG you don't lose any HP, sometimes you even gain additional HP. Only problem with LPG its lubrication beacause it is dry gas. This problem can be resolve cheaply by using lubrication kit or by adding normal fuel on high revs to save Valves. LPG is very underated for what it is. It is very sad that new cars can't get LPG conversion cheaply. News cars needs to have 6gen LPG conversion kit that can cost 3000-4000$ where 4gen LPG can cost 1000-1500$ for older engines without Direct fuel injectors
Live in Australia. Two really bad thing about LPG. When the LPG tank get hot you can not fill the tank. Only way to fill it depressurise the tank. And can not get LPG in remote areas. I carry a forklift tank as spare LPG and decanter. Have to because my car is LPG only. Most people wouldn't decanter LPG because of cost is $700 fork lift tank $250 CAR LPG DECANTING KIT. Can us the kit to depressurise hot tanks. Only ever had 8 hot tanks over 10 years. Other way to stop hot tanks is keep the tank above 1/2 full.
I had a toyota hiace on lpg when I lived in Australia and was absolutely sold on it . Since returning to Ireland I bought a toyota avensis with the conversion already done about 7 years ago iv put 300,000 kms on the car since and still going strong . It's a great system and so cheap to run I can't understand why more people don't use it ..
I've been running dedicated LPG and duel fuel cars for 30 plus years. Supply is not really an issue here in Australia. Most petrol stations have LPG. I drive 25 000km per year average, you do use a little more but at half the price of petrol, definitely worth it. Car have been a 5.2 litre V8 and 2 ave been 4 litre 6cyl.
@@hassanjamal6094 Are you asking me or Rick el? We have currently just started our road trip so I will be keeping our budget and working it out at the end of the month. 😀
its absolutely worth it. im from europe and my dodge ram has been on LPG for years. we have been using LPG for at least 20 years. never ever had issues with it. and now with the new system in my RAM there isnt even a power loss. I cant go in underground parkings but yeah .... not like my RAM is gonna fit anyways so i dont care, the price is around 1/4 of gasoline, sometimes even cheaper. i have around 200k miles on my truck but yeah, lpg or not these american beasts just never break anyways
In pakistan it will cost u to convert on lpg with large celender not more then £200 from a proper dealer shop otherwise from a local shop it would be not more then £120
Been toying with the idea of picking up and rx8 and converting it to lpg. Carbon tends to be a big contributor to killing rotaries so there’s an argument that lpg may help prevent this. Lpg does run dry though but there are also kits to help lubricate them like a lot of standard rotary owners add two stroke oil.
If your engine feels weaker running on LPG then something is not ok with your setup. It has to be the same, the cost of the same power is the extra consumption (around extra 15-20 %).
I liked it just because of the opening Oscars comment 😆🤣 but I found it helpful and informative, I bought a factory duel fuel Holden VE 60th Anniversary edition while I hunt down some parts for my Mercedes Coupe, I travel from Brisbane to the Gold Coast to visit my sister and family a few times per week so I expect some benefits and not worried about any horsepower loss while cruising
Suprised to hear that, as video claims BP and Shell both pulled out of retailing LPG in 2016 and 2020. Maybe BP had a re-think. Nearest LPG station for me is 9 miles away, so if that station closed or stopped selling LPG i would have to travel almost 20 miles to find LPG....seriously considering my next car to be LPG /Bi-Fuel.
@@PeteOnPurpose £1500 installation cost would take a few years just to recover the investment. Don’t think it’s worth it in ur country; specially is govt initiatives increase prices.
@@PeteOnPurpose But did u get to calculate the actual mileage difference? Could u explain the cost difference with petrol? Also what’s the mileage difference in litres?
Payed 1200€ 9 months ago to convert a 2011 Opel Astra J with the 1.4 turbo 140hp engine. The price included everything (kit purchace, installation, tuning, technical inspection and relevant fees). Took 4 days from handing the car to getting it back. With gasoline I was consuming ~7.5-8 L/100km. Now with LPG i sit ~9 L/100km. You cannot tell which fuel it uses, the performance is the same (as it should). Took me ~15.000km to recoup the installation, after that, im running cheaper than most diesels out there. Its almost cheaper for me to drive around for no reason to stay warm that to turn on the central heating to the home :P
Just started looking at LPG as an option to save money. 451 miles = £100. I’m currently getting 750 miles out of £100 in my 15 yr old diesel mondeo. You could drop the back seats and throw a mattress in the back of it too if you really wanted. Think I’ll stick with the dirty diesel for now 🤔
@@PeteOnPurpose I was getting 53mpg in the winter. But I did have a roof box and a puncture 😂. Joking aside, I’ve looked intensively at electric and hybrid and now LPG. But it doesn’t beat an old, economical car.
The filling system gets so much easier as you gain experience and you tend to steer towards the cheaper places too, you start driving to maximise economy etc. Do the same video after 12 months. One of the other pro is that it makes driving large, comfortable cars like that Largo very cost effective, a total no brainer in the end. You'll never be happy in a Polo again.
Yes we are finding it much easier to use now however there may be a problem with our pipe as we are unable to add convertors for europe so we are going to a specialist to see what the problem is.
Yes we are finding it much easier to use now however there may be a problem with our pipe as we are unable to add convertors for europe so we are going to a specialist to see what the problem is.
you do make great points for propane but i have to strongly disagree with prolonging the life of the vehicle, from my experience maintaining a propane powered fleet of package trucks, it significantly reduces the life and requires alot of maintenance. it does burn very clean ( to the point you can run then inside a building) but propane burn very hot, pretty quickly for a car depending on the engine it will completely burn out the cats and 02 sensors pretty quick, gaskets and seals get torn up and worn fast, as well as spark plugs. if you live in an area with large temperature changes like Canada, your mileage will also fluctuate and fuel leaks as the lines slightly shrink and expand. Propane is good in concept but unless the engine is designed for it like a forklift the fuel saving do not benefit you in the long run
Unfortunately, LPG seems to be for the chop in the UK as more fuel suppliers drop it. I suspect that it isn't profitable enough, and the forecourt space will probably end up as EV charging stations.
I have two lpg cars and both are big and I WOOD not be able to run them if not lpg one is a jaguar and voyager is a disability scooter carer for my wife and I injury my cars and driving
@@PeteOnPurpose the new lpg systems from Germany or the ones installed in the stock Dacia hybrid gas lpg engines add an incorporated oiling system to prolong the life of the engine and lower tear.
LPG in my country became available as a fuel in ~2005-2006. But in the beggining, only commercial vehicles were allowed to use it (so taxis, vans etc). Then in 2011, the market opened up for everyone, and the number of gas stations offering LPG increased exponentially. After last year's fuel prices hikes (gasoline went from 1,6 -> 2,3 €/L, diesel from 1,3 -> 1,9 €/L) I finally had enough paying for gasoline. I have a 2011 Opel Astra J (with the 1.4 turbo 140hp engine). With gasoline it got ~7,5-8 L/100km. Gave 1200€ for an LPG conversion on a reputable LPG/CNG workshop in my area. Crunched the numbers and it turns out that the €/km for LPG has HALF of the gasoline one. Needed about 15.000km to recoup the investment, and after that, I was a bit cheaper that modern diesels. Now (early January 2023) fuels prices are ~1,8 €/L for gasoline, ~1,7 €/L for diesel, ~0,9 €/L for LPG and ~1,2 €/kg for CNG. With LPG my Astra get ~9 L/100km. Done already 30.000km and looking forward to more. I wish I've made the switch years earlier. (pre 2022 gasoline was ~1,6 €/L and LPG ~0,6 €/L) If I was to buy a new car today, it would have to be LPG/CNG or even maybe a diesel if the price is right. To hell with gasoline, im done with it.
I drive only bmw.s with petrol engines and I started with lpg in them 6 years ago and thats fantastic. Lpg pay it himself in about 5 or 6 months and than you drive it with 50 percent less cost.
Would have to be something very significant to explode with the strength of the tanks, if that happened you can bet that your petrol tank will already have exploded by that point, plus if there's a puncture the loss of pressure ensures the lpg escapes as gas it's not sloshing around in the tank like petrol waiting to cook off
Been running my Landcruiser on LPG / Petrol for the last 24 years in Australia. Its a great fuel and very clean despite what the sceptics say. You only need to look at the exhaust pipes of cars running on it to see how clean they are and also the engine oil which if run solely on LPG does not darken at all as there is zero carbon created in the combustion. Economy wise LPG may not get exactly the same mileage as petrol however i have found it to be a very minimal difference but with 95l of petrol and 100 LPG can go a very long way between fill ups. Govts are making it more difficult to get LPG and even banning other forms of gas here which is outright stupidity as theyre ill informed and only seeking votes yet quite happy to export it....the mind boggles
Basically your best bet is to find an lpg specialist in your area who does fitting and repairs as they usually have a lpg fill station. Tho I know quite a few services advertise saying they have lpg but don't know if they actually doo have
Have you heard about LPG? Almost sounds too good to be true well except for the Euro tunnel of course. 😂
And the UK government and fuel companies closing stations in the UK almost sounds too stupid to be true.
Dont want us having cheap fuel do they 🤔
@@PeteOnPurpose Don't get it, the wholesale price of lpg went down earlier this year and at current prices they are still making plenty money. Liz Truss says that profit is not a dirty word but on common sense matters it seems it quite clearly is.
@@begachka That tells you how much they really care about the environment. They prefer high taxes so they can feed the ever-growing bureaucratic machine or give our money to their buddies like Greta.
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In Bulgaria, approximately 20% of all personal cars are working on LPG, even hybrids like Toyota Prius and Honda Insight etc. Perhaps 99% of all gas stations have LPG spots. LPG is always filled up by an employee of the gas station and you never do it alone. LPG prices are at least twice and in many occasions 2.5 times lower than petrol or diesel. Additional benefit of having an LPG System is that depending on your car, usually you are able to drive over 1200 miles without refilling (when using both of your tanks - LPG and Petrol one after another). LPG is in fact much more environment friendly than both P and D and in big cities it is waaay better. Even much older cars can produce less emissions working on LPG than modern petrol and diesel engines. Almost any engine could work on LPG and installing such system could be done for under one working day by one guy. However, the most benefits are obvious for cars with bigger engines and high annual mileage. Usually, the price of installing such system is already spared after the first 10k miles on LPG. Maintenance is cheap and rare. I am not a professional, but I travel over 50k miles a year and for me, even small differences in price per mile is significant in long term so naturally all my cars are working on LPG.
LPG was popular for taxi in Australia till Camry Hybrids arrived... Not many service stations sell it now...
That bit at the end 😂😂😂
I know every pump seems to be different, so I still have no idea what I’m doing. 😅
So I’m looki my at a biofuel car - 5.7 hemi petrol & LPG… what happens if you run out of LPG? Can you simply just use it on petrol?
Our van you could switch between the two and yes if you ran out of LPG it would just run on petrol
WTH is that fill port placement?!
Firstly, it is Dual not Duel - Duel means to fight.
Having run LPG cars since the 1980s, a few points I need to perhaps improve you on.
For wear and tear - not about being a cleaner burning fuel, more about it being is a gaseous, which unlike atomised petroleum fuel, doesn’t dissolve the thin oil layer on your cylinder bores (so called “bore washing”).
So, whilst the upper cylinder does wear a lot less due to this, it doesn’t necessarily prolong the life of other parts of the engine.
Also being a gas (dry), the valves and valve seats do wear a lot more, due to the lack of lubrication from the petrol but they don’t carbon up in the intake system and combustion chamber.
We put a new head gasket on an engine which had 350,000 km and the original hone marks were still visible in the cylinders and very little carbon to be seen anywhere.
It also doesn’t pollute the oil, so even in old engines, when you drain the oil it comes out like a brown ale and not like a Guinness in colour.
They do lose a little power because LPG is a gas and petrol is a vapor/atomised (a mist), so it displaces air during induction, so your engine can not breath as well (think high altitude has less oxygen).
The downside is that they use more fuel due as their fuel metering systems are generally very old tech mixers, which are very simple carburettors, so they are nowhere near the economy of a modern EFI engine.
So, whilst being a lot cheaper per litre, your actual costs per KM isn’t as good.
Like your comparison, I get very similar costs per KM for an LPG 2.7L 4-cylinder automatic vs 2.0 Turbo Diesel manual, despite diesel being twice as expensive.
I live in turkey and its the fate of any old car to run on lpg because of fuel prices. The availability is the same as gasoline in here, almost every station has a lpg pump. The biggest cons here are you have to pay extra during inspection and your car will be banned from entering underground car parks (its stupid so most people ignore it, modern kits have a safety valve that shuts off the tanks output completely the moment you turn the ignition off), but sadly in my country there are many bad examples of conversions, left out safety bits, engines losing power, burning valves because of bad adjustments etc. my own car, a 1974 beetle also runs on the stuff, and i do the adjustments on my own and its really happy running on lpg, no loss of power and if anything its more reliable because i dont need to worry about jets getting clogged, i can drive flat out for hours with no worries of overheating at all.
I bought a duster 2022 bifuel, it actually gains 10 bhp on lpg. It’s been designed to run on it and was done in the factory. Todays prices 19/5/22 was 72.7p a litre. 40 litres £32. Less than half price!
That’s awesome mate, definitely a good time have LPG.
I live in Bulgaria, it's on every petrol station, alot of people have LPG converted cars, if it's a nice modern system, you don't lose performance, it injects it into the chamber.
It didn't end so well for us
- ruclips.net/video/l9CgT-dgbNE/видео.html
Why not?
The last time LPG was pushed for dual fuel cars in the UK, the government hiked the price massively. So much so, in fact, that the slightly worse MPG it gives compared to unleaded petrol made it a futile escapade. Also, engines run so hot that engine valves take a real hammering. A chap I know had his Vauxhall Vectra dual fuel car eat its valves in no time. That aside, the powers that be won't ever allow us cheap motoring in the long term - too much loss in tax revenue !
Thanks for your input Michael I had never even heard of LPG before we started looking at campers, hopefully our valves hang on whilst we make it round Ireland. Sounds right about the government anything to keep the taxes up, makes more sense why we don't have more LPG in the country then.
Lpg system are fine as long as they are fitted and maintained properly…my Mercedes’ was converted over 11 years ago, when the mileage was at 165000….My car now has 276000 miles on the clock…still going strong..
WOW, thats great to hear James. 😀
The valve issues were sorted quite a while ago, if you are running a motor which is still susceptible to valve wear then you can have a lubrication system installed for about 50 quid with your conversion, it's about 20 quid for a refill of fluid every few thousand miles. Certainly cheaper than refilling AdBlue. Technology eh!
@@Alexander-jr8nw reading this makes me so happy as we are about to head around Europe 😀
UK govt is moving away from LPG even though we have an abundance of it and sell most of it away from the UK. Though it is more economical and better for the environment, the idiots in Government have given the industry clear indication that LPG should be on the way our and so in the last few years the number of LPG outlets has dropped below 1,000 nationwide to as low as 600 nationwide. It's baffling. We are scrapping perfectly good cars in the UK in favour of buying new ones. The carbon cost is much higher in producing a new car and most scrappage schemes do not offer enough to buy a new model anyway but it would be enough for a certified conversion. It's a no brainer. We should be converting more cars, encouraging manufacturers to produce more LPG cars and increasing investment in the LPG sector to increase availability. It's a winner all round except maybe for car producers who will see a drop in new car purchases, for car finance companies who will also see a drop in profits and interest and lastly it will be a negative for big oil if less people are using less petrol and diesel. The new government should reverse the current trajectory of LPG and back it. R&D should also be looked at to combine PHEV with LPG.
Lpg is getting to harder to find over the past couple of years in the uk. I'm looking at installing a bulk tank so I can fill up our lpg vehicles rather than not getting it on forecourts. Annoying that it's greener fuel to run than all over fuels but the UK are dropping it and just to let you know don't be fooled by the electric car hype.you wait and see!! Stupid in my opinion...
On long trips where lpg is not always available can turn the system off on hwy cruising where you don't consume a lot anyways and just turn back ok for stop go traffic or city drives. Great savings 😊
love my bmw 530i on LPG. luxerious driving at very low cost
LPG is almost finished in the UK hardly any people selling LPG and if you do find it it's £1 a litre.
I know :(
I converted a small( less than one litre) car and cant really notice any power difference, which i was concerned about as its only a 60hp car. But i had no problems at all, Its super super cheap to run, in fact even cheaper than my motorcycle now so I'm well happy. There are about 3 petrol garages along my route into work which is a 40 mile trip so its not so bad to find places. I fill up along work, if i didn't id have to drive a bit (15mins) to fill up where I live. I spent £1300 on conversion but my car is only a two cylinder turbo which makes it slightly cheaper to convert than the average car.
Sounds like it worked out well for you, i wish i could say the same about our van. 😢
This is very interesting. I hadn't heard of lpg until pretty much this week.
I'm 30 and finally looking into getting myself a set of wheels (late to the game i know lol) been doing my research between deisel, petrol and an e-vehicle or hybrid. Mostly trying to evaluate running costs and availability over the initial purchase of the vehicle.
This was really helpful in helping me understand lpg as its certainly far less talked about over other options. Thanks!
Wait until you learn about CNG or methane conversion kits. Though they come with a lot more trade-offs and caveats compared to propane, like the inability to install the tank in the place of your spare tire so as not to trade off your trunk space. But refuelling costs 3 times cheaper than gas and it's basically as clean as a hybrid, if not better than that. If one works as a taxi driver full-time, it's worth investing in a system like that due to not needing lots of free space in the trunk - provided that you have enough methane stations in your city. Methane is getting increasingly more popular in Russia and other countries, while almost every sensible driver going long ranges has already switched to propane, which is basically the golden ratio for riding cheap and not having to make many trade-offs. The toroidal propane tanks, which are installed in the place of your spare tire, have become a game-changer for those interested in converting to propane.
One thing I noticed in the past most lpg second hand vehicles for sale always said "But.....! " It needs recalibrating etc
Ive been running LPG cars since 2011 when I bought a Land Cruiser 4.7v8 which had already been converted; at 16 to the gallon it was quite necessary. Whenever I buy a petrol car I get it converted right away, my latest is only a little 1.6 that does about 35mpg but it's a nice simple engine without any expensive high tech parts, as I've seen petrol surge beyond 2 quid a litre I'm still paying 75-84p per litre of LPG and sometimes even less if you are near to a flogas outlet.
If you put the conversion onto a credit card and use the savings to pay it off you'll be in profit after about 7-8000 miles these days. Bargain.
Yes it really does make sense especially with petrol prices today. I just hope they don't start jacking up the price of LPG.
Hi James,how do I reach out to you so we can have a better conversation about this issue?
Omg get to the point i don't care about your life atory there's this and that
I appreciate the constructive feedback, thank you
The TV program "Wheeler Dealers" did a two part video on how to covert an old Land Rover to LPG (Autogas) which can be found, here on RUclips. Also, the RAC give advice on their website on the very same subject. I think we are going to hear a lot more about this in the coming months with fuels still set to rise even higher, thanks to Putin.
Yes we are so stoked we got LPG, especially now we are travelling.
Anecdotally, our local conversion garage a decent sized waiting list, there is definitely demand once again but at 2 quid for a litre of petrol is anyone surprised, particularly when they're lashing out at diesels
thanks to Putin - NO Thanks to a wholly corrupt Chinese/US government AND the M$N.. The EU countries have well and truly shot themselves in the foot - and Vlad told them straight what the outcome would be. What happened? German politicians laughed in his face. New, to keep GM industry going I believe they're still buying Vlads gas - but through a third party - so as not to loose face or the GM industrial output.
Hi from Costa Rica, I have a Renault (Dacia in Europe) Sandero Stepway that I recently converted to LPG, mileage is amazing and LPG is relatively easy to find.
Petrol is like €0.66 a liter and LPG is like €0.25, so is less than half.
LOLOLOLOL... Gas to Oscar's
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THANK YOU SO MUCH! I had no idea LPG was banned by Le Shuttle and I go to France often. Winter time using the shuttle is way more comfy instead of a rough sea. I always saw the option on their website and assumed it was fine.
Glad you found it useful
Short answer: yes, yes it is worth it.
*spoiler alert*
If i run my 2000 town car on gasoline, i will have to throw out 25 euros for 100km in fully urban scenario, when i run LPG i have to spend 12 euros for the same thing.
I ran and converted 3 cars 🚙 at total cost of £3800 for all
Three cars 🚘 🚗 ran them almost 200k miles on LPG between 2006-2018 12 years saved more thousands on fuel ⛽️ but the main 3 issues first the cost of LPG is going up so close to Petrol ⛽️ second is availability of LPG is difficult even with Filllpg app and finally the conversion costs are going up as most petrol ⛽️ cars 🚙 are now direct injection engine requirements for complex conversion are £2000+ up to £3500 for some cars 🚙 so seriously a good diesel ⛽️ cars get 50-60mpg making the LPG not worth the hassle imho and the death nail is that many new ULEZ don’t acknowledge any LPG conversion making LPG not even a transition fuel of choice in the UK but other parts of world such as Turkey 🇹🇷 and Poland 🇵🇱 things are very different where LPG is still a viable option for many as I found in my recent trip to Poland 🎉
Interesting, yes it definitely seems like LPG is not as popular as it once was. However travelling in Europe it has been very easy to get hold of and a very good price. 😀
I have jetta mk2 using LPG -10 start on LPG no use petrol at all. It is cheapper than petrol.
Did she mix herself up when she said that running the same distance on petrol was more expensive than running the same distance on LPG..... Surely, price per mile, LPG is cheaper yes?
Gee, that was a confusing video to say the least. There was no concise information on what they were comparing with what. Secondly, the introduction of the "Ireland" tangent was difficult to understand the purpose for. Like, if LPG is more expensive in Ireland, which is what I think that she was suggesting "might" be the case, do we know if petrol is cheaper, or more expensive than LPG over there.
Really, I can not help but come to the conclusion that this whole video is a confusing waste of time to watch.... basically a word-salad dump to camera, and for what?
I am Australian and own a dedicated LPG powered Ford Falcon. I am paying half for my fuel to what petrol powered cars are costing. The only downside is the number of outlets selling LPG for cars. In some cities in Australia you will only find 1 outlet that sells LPG.
I'm from new Zealand as was considering getting one
Is it better to get a lpg only or
Multi fuel tank petrol and LPG where you can switch over does it require special oil and servicing/maintenance compared to a normal car what are the major downsides and it it worth getting one also
In new Zealand we have a thing called RUC witch stand for road user cost
For Diesel it's $40 for every 1000 KM you have to have a special rego under your windscreen
You also have to have one for lpg but it won't tell me anywhere the cost of it and I couldn't find it so I gotta to some hunting for how much the taxes are for lpg
As I don’t know the costs etc of LPG or LPG conversion in NZ I can’t make an educated comment. In Australia the conversion to dual fuel (LPG and petrol) is over AUD3000. The LPG cylinder is quite large and takes up about half the boot size of a regular family sedan. My car is a Ford Falcon wagon but as it is dedicated LPG, I don’t have a petrol tank as well. It runs entirely on gas. To convert a regular petrol engine to run on dual fuel, the engine does need specialised equipment for things to work. Other than that a car will run very well on gas. I have had 2 dual fuel vehicles in the past and whether running on petrol or gas, I personally couldn’t tell the difference although I have been told that gas is slightly underpowered compared to petrol. But my advice would be to make local enquiries to auto LPG installers in your country. You could consult the internet or your local Royal Auto Club.
@@garyholt4445 thanks been very keen on one when you say multi duel fuel you mean it can run on petrol and LPG or is it specifically lpg only
I have a hybrid right now and a car that runs on e100 Ethanol but that's expensive and I need a good daily haha I don't know anywhere that installs LPG where I live I know where to buy it and cars like for Falcon utes or Barra xr6 that have been converted to lpg but I'm trying my best to get a bit more information on them before buying one
They are also making hydrogen cars in new Zealand now you can buy them but I wouldn't have a bloody clue about those either just trying to get some fuel efficient and reliable cheers 😅🙏
@@Janawhitej1 Go to your search engine. Google is best. Type in AUTO LPG CONVERSIONS IN ………then whatever city or town you live in. There will be places that do LPG conversions. My car has a 4 litre Barra engine. You will find your car runs cleaner and the oil stays as clean as the day you put it in.
Something I didn’t address in my previous response. Dual fuel I refer to is petrol and LPG. I first owned a dual fuel car in 2008. It was a 2002 Ford Falcon. The gas tank was in the boot. It had a 2 way switch on the dash board, one way was to switch to gas and the other way to switch to petrol. As the car was fuel injected, the switch over was automatic. I bought a Toyota HiAce camper and had it modified with an LPG conversion. Because it had a carburettor the operation was slightly different. If I ran out of LPG, I would switch to petrol at the touch of a button but it would take the motor several seconds for the fuel pump to pump petrol from the petrol tank to the carburettor. If I wanted to switch back to gas I had to hit the button to close the fuel pump and run the excess petrol out of the carburettor then hit the button again to start the flow of the gas. The change from one fuel source to the other was best done on a downhill slope if the vehicle was in motion.
My buddy had his 3.5 litre Nissan Elgrand converted last year. Saves him a fortune, he does have to have a drip addative a couple of times a year for the valves.
His car and all the kit its got, plus the conversion cost less than half, what he would have paid for the Transporter or Vito he was going to buy
Are you sure about that 20% discrepancy?, having owned a couple of lpg vehicles in the past, the calorific value to petrol is less than 10%, and because of the increase in ethanol in petrol (e10), and the fact lpg has a high octane rating, the difference ought to be negligible.
I was paying 74c per litre in Australia for LPG at the same time this video was made. $1 AUD = 53 P (GBP) at the time. The UK is very, very expensive. I'd bet that the price is even much cheaper in the USA than Australia.
I have an lpg van in the south island, New Zealand 🇳🇿 it seems that I can only get lpg in Christchurch now and there is no app to find other filling stations 😢 It's all over the news climate change lpg could be part of the solution.
We have only LPG cars in our family. LPG is much better fuel and there is even moders that can get 1000hp with LPG in my country. Reason why there are "cons" is beacause of bad servicing and instalation of LPG. LPG is igniting faster than gasoline and Valves sometimes doesn't close fast enough and they get burned. You just need to change ignition settings on software. Second thing is loss of horsepower. Another mith that is hurting LPG. With 4 gen LPG you don't lose any HP, sometimes you even gain additional HP. Only problem with LPG its lubrication beacause it is dry gas. This problem can be resolve cheaply by using lubrication kit or by adding normal fuel on high revs to save Valves. LPG is very underated for what it is. It is very sad that new cars can't get LPG conversion cheaply. News cars needs to have 6gen LPG conversion kit that can cost 3000-4000$ where 4gen LPG can cost 1000-1500$ for older engines without Direct fuel injectors
Live in Australia. Two really bad thing about LPG. When the LPG tank get hot you can not fill the tank. Only way to fill it depressurise the tank. And can not get LPG in remote areas. I carry a forklift tank as spare LPG and decanter. Have to because my car is LPG only. Most people wouldn't decanter LPG because of cost is $700 fork lift tank $250 CAR LPG DECANTING KIT. Can us the kit to depressurise hot tanks. Only ever had 8 hot tanks over 10 years. Other way to stop hot tanks is keep the tank above 1/2 full.
I had a toyota hiace on lpg when I lived in Australia and was absolutely sold on it .
Since returning to Ireland I bought a toyota avensis with the conversion already done about 7 years ago iv put 300,000 kms on the car since and still going strong .
It's a great system and so cheap to run I can't understand why more people don't use it ..
Thats awesome, yes it seems to have been fazed out as a lot of garages no longer even stock LPG. I am not sure why its not more popular either?
There's a strange myth, that the car manufacturer "intended" you to run on gasoline, and that lpg burns so much differently inside the engine
@@TheKitMurkit interesting 🤔
@@PeteOnPurpose yeah. Also that lpg burns "dry" and so it wears everything in the piston quicker, and gasoline burns "wet". Cool theory huh? :)
Good theory if you want to sell more petrol
I've been running dedicated LPG and duel fuel cars for 30 plus years. Supply is not really an issue here in Australia. Most petrol stations have LPG. I drive 25 000km per year average, you do use a little more but at half the price of petrol, definitely worth it. Car have been a 5.2 litre V8 and 2 ave been 4 litre 6cyl.
Thats really great to hear, not too many people seem to know much about LPG so I appreciate your comment. 😀
How much per week do you spend for fuel?
@@hassanjamal6094 Are you asking me or Rick el? We have currently just started our road trip so I will be keeping our budget and working it out at the end of the month. 😀
@@PeteOnPurpose how's it going after a month? You'll have filling down to a fine art won't you?
It's not worth it now when we pay 0.99c per litre. It was good back in the days when I paid 0.40c or even 0.60c in Melbourne
You can't compare it to a polo what's the point in that comparison that means nothing
We previously planned on travelling in our Polo which is why we compared the two vehicles.
@@PeteOnPurpose you should compare journeys with the same vehicle
@@bumfluffmcregor3730 Well our polo probably wouldn't have broken down and ended our trip three months early so I would say it wins. 😂
its absolutely worth it. im from europe and my dodge ram has been on LPG for years. we have been using LPG for at least 20 years. never ever had issues with it. and now with the new system in my RAM there isnt even a power loss.
I cant go in underground parkings but yeah .... not like my RAM is gonna fit anyways so i dont care, the price is around 1/4 of gasoline, sometimes even cheaper.
i have around 200k miles on my truck but yeah, lpg or not these american beasts just never break anyways
LPG stands for Liquified Petroleum Gas.
im having my 2020 Skoda Karoq 1.0 converted in Turkey ,as its supply and demand the conversion is around £800 all in ,2k in the UK
800 quid, what a bargain! You will make that back in no time mate with the current petrol prices.
In pakistan it will cost u to convert on lpg with large celender not more then £200 from a proper dealer shop otherwise from a local shop it would be not more then £120
@@hamzakhan-cw1ui wow thats amazing
Gary would love to see that please make a video once you get back to the UK, are they using similar branded systems as in European countries?
Amazing for 30£ i can do about 390 miles , bargain
Been toying with the idea of picking up and rx8 and converting it to lpg. Carbon tends to be a big contributor to killing rotaries so there’s an argument that lpg may help prevent this. Lpg does run dry though but there are also kits to help lubricate them like a lot of standard rotary owners add two stroke oil.
I really liked my nissan largo, just dont watch the recent videos from the travel vlogs 😅
Can you do mods on a car if you convert it, like cold air intake an ECU tune and an exhaust, or not?
Wankels kill themselves quite readily without external assistance
If your engine feels weaker running on LPG then something is not ok with your setup. It has to be the same, the cost of the same power is the extra consumption (around extra 15-20 %).
Good to know, thanks for sharing. 😀
How about Mercedes v8? Worth converting?
I don't know much about cars to be honest. If fuel is expensive an lpg conversion could help you save money in the long run for sure.
I liked it just because of the opening Oscars comment 😆🤣 but I found it helpful and informative, I bought a factory duel fuel Holden VE 60th Anniversary edition while I hunt down some parts for my Mercedes Coupe, I travel from Brisbane to the Gold Coast to visit my sister and family a few times per week so I expect some benefits and not worried about any horsepower loss while cruising
In my country they sell a special type of compressor that you can put your own lpg a home with a cooking gas tank.
oh wow, that sounds very interesting
omg i love loretta’s hair!!!
Yes, she's been taking her buddhist retreats very seriously.
CNG is a better option in my opinion
Yo i have a question can you use petrol with the LPg system? Like sometimes you want to use petrol
You can have a car that runs on both but you would need to seperate systems, you couldnt run petrol through your LPG if thats what you mean.
Ok but I have more horsepower, and I get more miles for my money with my diesel car 🙄
Nice 😃
🤔 my local BP has LPG, I've seen a few cars on it tbh. I'm more surprised more people ain't running veg oil in their cars lol
Suprised to hear that, as video claims BP and Shell both pulled out of retailing LPG in 2016 and 2020. Maybe BP had a re-think. Nearest LPG station for me is 9 miles away, so if that station closed or stopped selling LPG i would have to travel almost 20 miles to find LPG....seriously considering my next car to be LPG /Bi-Fuel.
Where did you get your lpg installed and what make
When we brought the van they had already installed the LPG
In Kenya it will cost you less than £400 to convert from petrol to LPG.
Nice
It costs about £500 to convert here in Italy.
Thats not too bad to be honest
@@PeteOnPurpose £1500 installation cost would take a few years just to recover the investment.
Don’t think it’s worth it in ur country; specially is govt initiatives increase prices.
@@PeteOnPurpose But did u get to calculate the actual mileage difference?
Could u explain the cost difference with petrol? Also what’s the mileage difference in litres?
Payed 1200€ 9 months ago to convert a 2011 Opel Astra J with the 1.4 turbo 140hp engine. The price included everything (kit purchace, installation, tuning, technical inspection and relevant fees). Took 4 days from handing the car to getting it back.
With gasoline I was consuming ~7.5-8 L/100km. Now with LPG i sit ~9 L/100km. You cannot tell which fuel it uses, the performance is the same (as it should). Took me ~15.000km to recoup the installation, after that, im running cheaper than most diesels out there. Its almost cheaper for me to drive around for no reason to stay warm that to turn on the central heating to the home :P
Did u buy ur car with lpg already installed or did u have to install u on top? Thanks
The car came already LPG converted
Just started looking at LPG as an option to save money. 451 miles = £100. I’m currently getting 750 miles out of £100 in my 15 yr old diesel mondeo. You could drop the back seats and throw a mattress in the back of it too if you really wanted. Think I’ll stick with the dirty diesel for now 🤔
750 miles for 100 quid, living the dream mate
@@PeteOnPurpose I was getting 53mpg in the winter. But I did have a roof box and a puncture 😂.
Joking aside, I’ve looked intensively at electric and hybrid and now LPG. But it doesn’t beat an old, economical car.
Awesome vid as always both!!!
Can't wait for this Road trip 🤘
Yes mate, hopefully should be all systems go mid May! 😀
@@PeteOnPurpose excellent 👌
There are cars where the engine is optimized for gas. such as Volkswagen
Oh interesting i have never heard that either.
I love the sound but there’s less and less feeling stations around
You are right, there is an app that tells you where they are so would be best to check if they are near you before you buy.
We have dedicated lpg cars in Australia lol
Nice 😊
Lpg does not prolong engine life it's to dry so you need some form of lubricant to prevent the engine from wearing itself out
I would say you are probably right as our van broke down in Germany 3 times and we eventually had to leave it there
@@PeteOnPurpose that sucks I hate having to lose veichles.
Haha yea specially when your travelling Europe on an adventure you've been planning for ages
Righty tighty, lefty loosey.
where were you when I needed you? 😅
The filling system gets so much easier as you gain experience and you tend to steer towards the cheaper places too, you start driving to maximise economy etc. Do the same video after 12 months. One of the other pro is that it makes driving large, comfortable cars like that Largo very cost effective, a total no brainer in the end. You'll never be happy in a Polo again.
Yes we are finding it much easier to use now however there may be a problem with our pipe as we are unable to add convertors for europe so we are going to a specialist to see what the problem is.
Yes we are finding it much easier to use now however there may be a problem with our pipe as we are unable to add convertors for europe so we are going to a specialist to see what the problem is.
you do make great points for propane but i have to strongly disagree with prolonging the life of the vehicle, from my experience maintaining a propane powered fleet of package trucks, it significantly reduces the life and requires alot of maintenance. it does burn very clean ( to the point you can run then inside a building) but propane burn very hot, pretty quickly for a car depending on the engine it will completely burn out the cats and 02 sensors pretty quick, gaskets and seals get torn up and worn fast, as well as spark plugs. if you live in an area with large temperature changes like Canada, your mileage will also fluctuate and fuel leaks as the lines slightly shrink and expand. Propane is good in concept but unless the engine is designed for it like a forklift the fuel saving do not benefit you in the long run
Unfortunately, LPG seems to be for the chop in the UK as more fuel suppliers drop it.
I suspect that it isn't profitable enough, and the forecourt space will probably end up as EV charging stations.
I have two lpg cars and both are big and I WOOD not be able to run them if not lpg one is a jaguar and voyager is a disability scooter carer for my wife and I injury my cars and driving
Wrong. It burns a lot hotter and dry. So it tears the engine far worse than gas or diesel.
Intresting
@@PeteOnPurpose the new lpg systems from Germany or the ones installed in the stock Dacia hybrid gas lpg engines add an incorporated oiling system to prolong the life of the engine and lower tear.
Nope, not these days. Flashlube (valve saver) sorts it.
Thanks for sharing mate, I'm thinking of getting an lpg conversion as I'm working with uber..
Yes mate, with the current rising petrol prices we are really stoked we have LPG. 😀
@@PeteOnPurpose 💯 the petrol prices now is crazy
@@abrahim4861 I know man they just keep going up too. 🤯
nearly as fuel stations in australia have lpg
Does LPG burns faster then Petrol?
LPG in my country became available as a fuel in ~2005-2006. But in the beggining, only commercial vehicles were allowed to use it (so taxis, vans etc). Then in 2011, the market opened up for everyone, and the number of gas stations offering LPG increased exponentially.
After last year's fuel prices hikes (gasoline went from 1,6 -> 2,3 €/L, diesel from 1,3 -> 1,9 €/L) I finally had enough paying for gasoline.
I have a 2011 Opel Astra J (with the 1.4 turbo 140hp engine). With gasoline it got ~7,5-8 L/100km. Gave 1200€ for an LPG conversion on a reputable LPG/CNG workshop in my area. Crunched the numbers and it turns out that the €/km for LPG has HALF of the gasoline one. Needed about 15.000km to recoup the investment, and after that, I was a bit cheaper that modern diesels.
Now (early January 2023) fuels prices are ~1,8 €/L for gasoline, ~1,7 €/L for diesel, ~0,9 €/L for LPG and ~1,2 €/kg for CNG.
With LPG my Astra get ~9 L/100km. Done already 30.000km and looking forward to more. I wish I've made the switch years earlier. (pre 2022 gasoline was ~1,6 €/L and LPG ~0,6 €/L)
If I was to buy a new car today, it would have to be LPG/CNG or even maybe a diesel if the price is right. To hell with gasoline, im done with it.
Happy you have saved some money 😀
What country?
Greece
I need me some lpg when i get a car
@@andrew7720 LPG consumes about 10 - 20 percent more than gasoline and diesel per 100 km, right? What abouzt CNG?
I drive only bmw.s with petrol engines and I started with lpg in them 6 years ago and thats fantastic. Lpg pay it himself in about 5 or 6 months and than you drive it with 50 percent less cost.
can I ask what capacity tank you had in litres and do you still carry a spare wheel?
Until it explodes
Surely worth it for the cheap gas? 😂
How many times has your gas bbq exploded? How many times has your gas cooker exploded?
@@jamesmarchant5837 gas cooker once do to a leak in the line but that was in my shed but lpg Aren’t illegal in most states in America
Would have to be something very significant to explode with the strength of the tanks, if that happened you can bet that your petrol tank will already have exploded by that point, plus if there's a puncture the loss of pressure ensures the lpg escapes as gas it's not sloshing around in the tank like petrol waiting to cook off
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Been running my Landcruiser on LPG / Petrol for the last 24 years in Australia. Its a great fuel and very clean despite what the sceptics say. You only need to look at the exhaust pipes of cars running on it to see how clean they are and also the engine oil which if run solely on LPG does not darken at all as there is zero carbon created in the combustion.
Economy wise LPG may not get exactly the same mileage as petrol however i have found it to be a very minimal difference but with 95l of petrol and 100 LPG can go a very long way between fill ups.
Govts are making it more difficult to get LPG and even banning other forms of gas here which is outright stupidity as theyre ill informed and only seeking votes yet quite happy to export it....the mind boggles
Please! We are not American! Petrol is called petrol and NOT gas. LPG stand for Liquid Petroleum Gas and NOT Liquid Petroleum Gasoline.
From now on i'm only going to call it gasoline 😅
Basically your best bet is to find an lpg specialist in your area who does fitting and repairs as they usually have a lpg fill station. Tho I know quite a few services advertise saying they have lpg but don't know if they actually doo have
We have an LPG App called MYLPG and it has worked our really well for us so far. 😀
Looks bloody hard to master don't it!!!😊
Haha it’s not as easy as I make it look mate 😅
@@PeteOnPurpose 😂😂👍
CNG biogas is this same ?
I have never heard of it but according to google it looks pretty similar?
No, CNG is compressed natural gas, LPG is liquified petroleum gas. CNG - methane, LPG - propane + butane
What he said 😀
Go to Myanmar, 99% car run on Natural gas
29855 Wiza Valley
in bangkok , nearly all taxi run on LPG even a prius taxi.
and around half light duty truck also lpg
Oh cool to know, thanks for sharing