A refreshing change to be so honest and spontaneous with comments. .... I would much rather learn about faults in advance than during ownership and after all you guys drive many more vehicles than we ever will so despite some degree of subjectiveness it was one of the best on this channel and indeed you tube overall. It is after all a review not an advertisement and as such I think it's great you had the balance of pros and cons as you went along .It certainly encourages us to be more aware in our own pre purchase evaluation so that can only be a good thing...a very worthwhile watch,thanks again guys.
Excellent review as always. Some people here do not like to see the bad points highlighted and I understand that. I personally like to see the weak points singled out. Buying a car is as rational as it is an act of passion sometimes. If you know beforehand the weak points and you still move forward to buy the car, then you are not being fooled, it is a choice you made. This is where I believe Autogefühl it is extremely useful, because it assists you in making a conscious choice by enlisting both the strong points and, most important for me, the weak ones. When I discover a good quality in a car it is a pleasant surprise. When I discover a fault, pleasure is nowhere in sight. Besides, I find this channel entertaining, quite so indeed.
Nice review! So many complaints and downvotes; I wonder, would this video's stats be different if Thomas had said the same exact things? Probably. Come on people, enough of the fanboiism - AJ is the most articulate presenter by a long shot because his english is so good, and he seems like a charming dude. I'd grab a beer with him any day.
Nice review, Autogefühl. I looked at this today in showroom and I was a little disappointed with the second row seats. Yes there is room but thighs feel unsupported when your feet are flat on the floor. I too noticed the small fixtures were not as tight as other manufacturers. So Autogefühl/Thomas, what would you take if you had to pick: LR Discovery 5, Audi SQ7, Volvo XC 90 or Mercedes GLE?? Thanks for your insights and for the great reviews!
I (with 11 other drivers) was lucky enough to drive all JLR models supplied from the factory for a major sports event (to drive VIP’s around). Drove everything from the Discovery Sport, XJL, P400E RR, Velar, Discovery 5..... After driving all models and getting over the ‘WOW’ factor, the car I would choose (if reliability wasn’t a problem) would be this, the Discovery 5. Plenty of room (I have Grandchildren), decent trim level, handles ok for an SUV. Just a pity that reliability sucks. Every car in the supplied fleet had some ‘minor’ / intermittent electrical issue!
You keep complaining about the air suspension ?!? In your opinion the car "rolls" to much when cornering ?!? Sorry, but the problem is the guy behind the wheel, not the car. I have been driving the car in almost every thinkable condition, as well as on German Autobahn at high speeds. I can not confirm too much of "rolling" or so. I think your approach of curves is the problem, at least what I can see by watching your video. I think you enter the curve at a wrong angle, which causes you problems at the middle of the curve.
Many viewers are saying that this review is too focused on negative elements about this car. Isn't this the point of a review? Aren't critics supposed to point out the bads? If he only praises the car, wouldn't that be an advertisement? I personnaly really enjoyed the review, I like to know about the details.
Really good review, pointed out good and bad parts of the car. Made it clear that some parts of the car you didn't like are ur opinion and others are actual flaws. Well done.
Very fair review, showed the good and the not so good rather than just gush about how great the car is. Land Rover has a marketing department for that. Still must be one of most practical SUVs in the world right now.
Just got this car 2018 and I wish he explained the electronic display little more. The rolling during cornering is something all true SUVs will do due to high setting to allow off roading. This raises the center of gravity of the car higher. It is much quieter car than what it was before. I like the older boxy esthetics of previous generations but we do more of highway driving than off roading. Therefore, it may have been a logical choice to reduce drag and improve aerodynamics. He is not a Discovery fan but he does a great job reviewing all aspects of the car and yes we do drive by ourself or with one other person most of time so it would be a waste unless one has a huge family. It was really enjoyable and educational to watch this and I look forward to get more kicks out of this vehicle.
I must say I really appreciate that you and Thomas always mention that there is no need for animal skin on car seats. I hope someday it will be heard by many carmakers like Mercedes Benz and Tesla already did, they propose good quality vegan leather options in their ranges. Also cloth eats should be available at any range level you choose even the highest end. And finally I hope this will increase public consciousness and demand for more creative and elegant cloth upholstery
Have you ever owned a Discovery or is this pub talk? A rating of 4.8 out of 5 on productreview.com.au tells you all you need to know about owner satisfaction.
I saw one of these recently, Corris Grey with black pack and dynamic pack, it looked great. I remember when the Q7 was released it received a lot of negativity for it's looks. Audi even sacked the designer and it had to be delayed for a redesign. The Volvo is only 2 litre and it suffers from motorway overtaking, it moves like shit of a spade. I don't think there is one out right winner in this segment at the moment, they all have their good bad points. I agree with this reviewer, quality is an issue, I am always extra careful when I wash my wife's Evoque. Rattlely grill too.
Good review. Been thinking about getting one of these and considering that the HSE Luxury TD6 is $126K in Australia it is pretty important that the finish inside the Disco is impeccable. If the buttons are not very responsive and door trims are rough it is an important item to mention. This seems like something that could become very annoying after the "honeymoon" period is over. As far as reliability of LR, my friend has had a few Discos. Changes them as soon as the warranty runs out. Never really had any problems with them. When something did happen the dealership fixed under warranty and he had a courtesy car. Overall, his LR is more reliable than my Jeep Grand Cherokee and on par with my wife's Lexus. Not bad if you ask me.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH Autogefühl!!!!!! THANK YOU THOMAS. With this, I have an idea how the VELAR would ride. I know Thomas you didn't do this review because you want to save yourself for the Velar. I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO HANDLE THAT BEAST OF A MACHINE!!!
a big chin, a big rear end and number plate positioning that makes it look like its been slapped from one side with a boxing glove. i understand the heritage of that positioning but it works better, imo, with the square format plate not the regular long one. good work AJ
Nothing will ever look as good as the original Discovery and Discovery 2 shapes, but you can see the original discovery is still in there somewhere in terms of shape and design. I don't think the car is ugly, but they have softened it round the corners maybe too much compared to the previous Discovery's. Far as it being like a boat, probably an apt description. They are big cars and if you wiggle the steering yeah, it is going to shake. Any proper 4x4 will do that.
The previous model - Disco LR4 was the best in class and the bestseller after it's release. It was the best family car available. They've made serious mistake by abandoning the classic shape (unlike the Jeep Wrangler). The new LR5 is a conceptual failure with minimal technological improvement and cosmetic disappointment. The rear end is really ugly, missing split trunk door is a disappointment. Missing command seating position is a pity. The car is as expensive as Merc GLS? What have you done Land Rover team?
here in uk this disco starts at £47,000 which is over £2000 more than the very pretty range rover velar, i agree they have messed up big time with this 1, i own a LR4 but i wouldnt trade it for the LR5 no way
@James Wilkinson that makes no sense at all, ppl buy suvs as they need the extra space & to help then get around in winter snow etc .. so if you gotta buy an suv then you will buy 1 thats pretty over 1 that aint pretty, that makes sense
Looks good. And one of the best off roaders for the money! If the haters are talking about reliability, lets not talk about Audi, VW and Benz which more than have their issues. The Velar is a thing of beauty, however with LR being the way they are, leasing will be just as bad as buying. Head for the Atlas instead
The most onest review! People need to know about bad things! I own three different models from JLR and I know what AJ is talking about! So...keep the good job!
I personally prefer the visual identity of old models which were all very distinguishable and different. This new model of Discovery looks like awkward Range Rover... Couple of years a go there was no chance you would mix Freelander, Defender, Discovery and Range Rover...
Audi Q3/Q5/Q7, BMW X1/X3/X5, they all look the same but no one ever criticises them for having a close family look. Why is it OK for them but not Land Rover?
John Pitcher I didn't say it is okay. Enough with this German vs British criticism... I don't like ALL consumer/corporate driven designs today. There are some good examples like Aston, Jaguar, Morgan, Peugeot, Kia... but most of the cars today show that manufacturers have no courage to step away and experiment with design so you get Audi and Bmw where you have the same exact face on a different body. Unfortunately this goes for LR now too... which never had the quality but at least had the design.
Some facts that no-one in these car reviews mention. Compared to the previous model. 1) The load space is a lot SMALLER. With all seats folded it is 2400l vs 2550 for the old model. This is because the floor to ceiling measures 10cm less; You could get a bike upright in the old one if you took off the front wheel; You CANT in this 2) The old one has five full size comfortable seats in rows 2 and 3 with good access to row 3. In order to be able to fold the seats flat with electric motors they have ruined the comfort. The seats are very thinly padded and set way too low so that for a 1m80 adult your knees are up by your ears and to give the illusion of leg room the seat squabs are 5cm shorter in the new model. They are NOT ADULT SEATS and terribly uncomfortable. They are suitable only for children 3) Access to row 3 is terrible compared to the old model 4) the middle seat on row 2 is not a proper seat like in the old model; It is as hard as a plank of wood and only suitable for short journeys. Comfort has been sacrificed to make it into a fold down armrest. I regularly travel long distances with 5 or more adults in perfect comfort in my Disco 4. You couldn't in this car. It is designed and priced for wealthy people who live in urban environments who want to take the kids to school. Needless to say i won't be buying one
Great review, thank you for your honesty! Many car reviewers rarely, if ever, point out the negative aspects of a car because they are afraid to piss off the manufacturers.
If you really want a perspective on how this car performs then you need to hitch a 2-animal horsebox to it, load it with 3 teenagers and all the accoutrements needed for eventing, drive it for 90 miles, spend a day at a competition then drive it back again. The outcome? Flawless. Easily the most competent and comfortable vehicle in Europe for the job it was designed for.
There are several other cars on the European market around the same size or bigger. I suggest you get somebody who likes big cars to test big cars - this guy makes it sound like this Discovery is the biggest thing on the road - I've driven it and it is perfectly fine in town, as long as you're used to driving big cars.
Also, in the UK Discos are usually bought by active families, especially outside cities, so little chance of them beng driven with just one or two persons. As for all the power points, if you knew what it was like with 4 teenagers and their friends in the car, you would know how vital those powerpoints actually are today to keep the peace on a long journey!
Good and complete review but I have never seen someone doing crazy things that a normal car driver would never do like keeping pushing buttons back and forth right and left continuously to comment on their quality or trying to roll over the car on high speed driving- looked interesting but car is very good
Honestly, this was a good review. I think the flaws pointed out were valid for what is considered a luxury brand. And all the key points were covered while distinguishing between personal opinion and objective judgement. Ugly car though in my opinion. .
Erstmal... Vielen Dank für eure tollen Reviews. Sehr authentisch und interessant gestaltet.👍 ABER! Es wäre sehr interessant wenn ihr bei Fahrzeugen wie LR Discovery und Discovery Sport... oder auch allgemein bei SUV/Pickup's mit hohem Nutzwert, auch mit einem grösseren Anhänger fahren würdet und diese Aspekte des Anhängerziehens ins Review einbauen würdet; oder auch ein eigenes Format damit machen würdet. Das wäre meiner Meinung nach noch interessant und wichtig. 😉 Nochmals vielen Dank für eure Videos und Herzliche Grüsse aus der Schweiz.😁
I like your channel a lot and I liked some of the reviews that this guy have done, but I don't think he was too inspired in this one: very focused on bad points (and not very important ones) and he could touch the screen and buttons more carefully :D I've tested this car, by the way, but it is just my opinion. Excellent channel, anyway! ;)
Tomás García Martínez Built quality is important for a car that is over 100000 euro with the 300hp diesel and most options. That's a price point where you expect built quality. I couldn't live with this car. I would pick the XC90 in this price range it has a way better built quality or spend a little more on a Q7.
I'm totally agree with you (my father owns a new S90 and the quality and assistant system tech are better , equal to the XC90), but I mean, if you are so strict with one model, you should be so strict with others (I don't remember being so strict in the Infiniti Q60 test, for example). However, as I said, I have tested this car and the quality in general is good. But just my opinion
The XC90 and Q7 are very different cars inasmuch as they have zero off-roading capability. Hence unless you intend to go off road, the Discovery will be wasted on you. Having established that, the real competitors for the XC90/Q7 are the Mazda CX9, Hyundai SanteFe, Kia Sorento, and other jacked-up estate cars. However, if you want a real off-road vehicle that can drive on sanding mud on beaches and forest trails, then the Disco is the best of the bunch.
I was looking forward to this review as I have one of these on order. But this isnt the best review by Autogefuhl. I really dont think we need to be told why we should or shouldnt buy the car. For me, I've got 4 kids and 2 dogs and need this size of car. I think it would have been better if the reviewer had been a family man/woman. I wish they could do the review again with Thomas.
his point was that very often nowadays, huge cars are being used by single drivers, an understandable point. Of course it looks different with a family.
Sure. But I havent come to this video to be lectured. Given it is a family car, I would have appreciated a review more based on that. Your sports car reviews (and I also own sports cars) dont say - "Its ridiculous that you can only get two people into this car and that its not able to carry 10"
And another thing. He goes on about USB and power points on more than 1 occasion. And WiFi. And I can tell you as a father of 4 kids you could cant have enough USB ports. I think you have totally missed the point of this car.
Hi R Mac although it makes no sense, i loved the Porsche 911 GT3 RS! i would drive that car everyday! lol :P but thats a good question.. perhaps the mercedes c class.. i think its a great combination of sporty RWD, luxurious interior, great quality, great brand image, comfortable, reliable, not too small not too large, and reasonably priced if you get one of the smaller petrol engines.. -AJ
A lot of hate in this review pointing out very minor details at fault without mentioning the positives, you wouldn't see this kind of review for the German car manufacturers
jaymulli - Yes but that's because the quality control of most german cars wouldn't have cleared the faults shown in the LR. The design of Jaguar and Land Rover is superb, but the finish is way behind most German and Japanese brands. Even in the Range Rover when you sit in it there are always aspects that make you think "This feels cheap".
There are definitely some cheaper elements inside this car but that happens with all cars to save cost but when German cars are reviewed on this channel they tend to talk about the overall quality which is generally very good as is the case with German cars but this review seemed to pick fault with little details without telling you how it was overall whereas other reviews I have seen praise the quality of the cabin
jaymulli ..I used to think people were unfair to land rover till i got in a range rover and was surprised by how the build is poor in some areas.For the asking price they need to be solid
Very complete and nice review. Given the price tag of this car and the cheap features in its interior I'm not going to buy this Discovery as my future off road experience is near nil. I watched this review with great interest as my Father wants a new Discovery. thank you for all the details revealed worth being acknowledged of.
I am owning a LR Discovery 3 and I think this is a great car. In terms of built quality in the interior I thinks this car was on the same level as the German competitors. The down-sides of the car is of cause after no 8-9 years there are more often repairs also on things that are just coming after that time and some really unplanned. And this is at LR really expensive. Nevertheless I love this car very much and enjoy driving it very much especially if you think how practically this car is. With the new one I just miss a bit the rugged view of the LR3 and 4.
One thing is this review puzzles me. Why is AJ reviewing the Discovery when he says he doesn't generally like big cars? It makes him kind of biased in my opinion.
This new discovery is a collision between house styling cues and interior volume requirements not seen since the first generation cayenne. It's especially galling that a brand that makes only SUV s have this problem. The problem in my view is the shrunken greenhouse. The belt line is crazy high for a car like this, and they managed to also make it look front drive even with the front wheels so far forward. There's also a crazy amount of metal between the top of the rear tire and the bottom of the windows. That's the pointlessly high belt line at work again. And you can see the unfinished, unprotected rear muffler just standing behind the thing!
Not sure about this review, some of the comments are not accurate and quite biased, he admits he doesn't like large cars. Also when he says about the size of the car if you look at it against the size of a BMW X5, although it is 16mm wider and 120mm higher, the BMW X5 is 57mm longer with a 108mm longer wheelbase.
Pretty biased review. Thomas did a much better job. Here’s a tip. People watching this review are looking for a family SUV that is large enough to carry their stuff. Complaining about the size of the car is kinda stating the obvious.if you ever have kids you will know they need the USB outlets to charge their stuff.
Complaining about the size is ridiculous. SUV’s in this segment have their eyes not only on the FAMILY market (this is a English school-run SUV) but also on the American market (See A7 & A8 et al.) where to justify the price one must produce a car that has a “presence”. My other gripe about this detailed review is the USB comments. Again this is a family car. One parent with two kids and a couple of their friends and suddenly the USB option is useful if not critical on long journeys. Otherwise, good detail as ever - reason I subscribe. Ps: my wife wants one because we have two girls (in baby chairs) and frequently also a grandparent... but your air suspension warning is useful. Maybe we’ll hold out to look to compare it to the 2021 (7 seat) Grand Jeep Cherokee which comes out in a few months.
I'm really kinda disappointed on the way the built quality seems. I had a fully loaded 2009 LR2 and it was a small tank and never had any problem with anything like quality.
Whatcar true mpg tests say the 2L derv Disco 5 does just 26mpg. .. yes you read that right just 26mpg, the worst mismatch of claimed mpg to real mpg of any vehicle available today. So it's not just ugly it's also hopelessly inefficient.
ON reviewing your show saying it's to big for country roads? it was born in the UK, on those very country roads, i personally thinks it's the best value land rover in the group for comfort
Haha AJ, at minute 25:00 you said that the car is too large for EU roads and at 31:30 I saw what you mean. But have you tried driving this in the United Kingdom? Haha that's the homeland of narrow roads in or out of the city (the ones that do not have dual carriageway) Other than that great review, though I would take the Range Rover Sport any time over this. Or the GLE.
Just wanted to give the input you asked for. I hate the look of this vehicle. I love the look of the LR4 and I'm really not happy that they did away with the trademark split tailgate. As far as styling goes I think Land Rover consumers totally love the boxier look. The boxier look makes it more truck-like and less mini-van like. (I'm trying to avoid the terms masculine and feminine, but you get the idea. This look makes the car look neutered). This thing really just looks like an over-sized honda-pilot 2017 now and I think it's a huge mistake. So many dumb styling options here.
I don't like this new Discovery look, especially the tail, it lost a lot of its character. People are complaining about the reviewer, however I think he pointed very valid points. You buy a luxury brand, you throw tons of money into it, but the you get these low quality buttons. It just spoils all the joy of buying such a car. In regard to other complains about weight, roll of air suspension, etc - I don't think you can really complain about laws of physics. You have to accept it with this car. It's like buying a tank and complaining its tracks are noisy, and it is hard to park in the city.
i've noticed: German numberplates. Luxembourg village. Belgium numberplates in cave. And I wonder; where the hell have you guys been and why so many different car registrations?
I like AJ , but........ he is reviewing this car as if it is a sports car! what do you mean it feels like a boat? of course it does! its a family sized SUV!
I totally share his opinion. It's about you can build a Full-Size-SUV in a sporty way or in a boat-feeling-alike way. Its about what you prefer, but he states the general driving characteristic of that car. /Thomas
The issue is that in Germany you have very smooth roads and off-roading is virtually non-existent, so your carmakers fit very stiff suspension that doesn't roll but transmits every bump into the cabin. In the rest of the world roads are far rougher and we do go off-road so the smoothness of the Disco air suspension is a delight. No one buys a Disco for sports-car handling and I applaud LR for opting for comfort over sportiness. Its one of the reasons why you never see a BMW/Audi/Merc on forest trails or beaches, they are very uncomfortable and simply can't cope with the rough stuff.
Hi John you make some very good points. Perhaps i came off as being too harsh on the car.. i certainly like the disco.. in fact, im a big fan of the defender.. and LRs are amazing off-road, as we saw in the test in the mine.. build quality has come a long way, but still has some ways to go.. and the air suspension, size, and driving dynamics are certainly not going to please everyone..statistically, most off-roaders spend most of their time on road instead.. hence, on road manners in daily driving conditions are more important overall.. although a major USP of the disco is its off-road capability.. We always try to arm our viewers with as much information and observations as we can with the limited time we get, so that they can make a more educated decision.. and we very much appreciate you sharing your first hand experience with owning and running this car.. stay tuned to autogefuehl and stay active in the community. cheers AJ
It’s nothing like the Discovery, it’s a completely different vehicle which isn’t a compliment while there’s no original Discovery on offer. Land Rover ruined it.
I own 2 discovery 2s & do not like the look of it it is to low, I don't like the tailgate. I don't do push button start . I don't like the shift knob looks cheap..I don't like power seat controls. I miss the manual transmission option. I like the the dual sun roofs in mine. no v8 option forget it.
most unreliable vehicles ever made.. but dam they ride smooth as glass.. i dnt last more than 3 years with my RANGE ROVERS.. 1 THEY DEPRECIATE LIKE CRAZY.. 2 THEY BRAKE PARTS LIKE LEGOS..SMH
I am on my 3rd Disco, and after 4 years ownership (from new) of my previous two I got 70% of the purchase price back. My current Disco is 3 years old, and if I sold it today I would get 80% of my purchase price back. Hence I can't agree with your depreciation story, I am amazed at how Discos hold their value. Maybe you should try selling yours privately instead of trading them in and giving the dealer all the profit. Similarly, I have had minimal issues in 11 years of Land Rover ownership and regularly take mine off road. Sure, maybe Toyotas are more reliable but they are so horrible to drive, and require 6 monthly servicing, I'll take a Land Rover any day.
Hi John you make some very good points. Perhaps i came off as being too harsh on the car.. i certainly like the disco.. in fact, im a big fan of the defender.. and LRs are amazing off-road, as we saw in the test in the mine.. build quality has come a long way, but still has some ways to go.. and the air suspension, size, and driving dynamics are certainly not going to please everyone..statistically, most off-roaders spend most of their time on road instead.. hence, on road manners in daily driving conditions are more important overall.. although a major USP of the disco is its off-road capability.. We always try to arm our viewers with as much information and observations as we can with the limited time we get, so that they can make a more educated decision.. and we very much appreciate you sharing your first hand experience with owning and running this car.. stay tuned to autogefuehl and stay active in the community. cheers AJ
Now thqt's a totally outdated statement. They definitely were unreliable in the 90s and early 00s. But since they got away from Ford, LRs are much more relialble and getting better by the year. I'm on my 4th LR and, apart from a cracked windscreen, have never had one single problem. The important thing is to always service on time and look after them, then they'll look after you. Best family car ever!
John, I'm on my 4th LR, had the same trouble-free experience. Totally agree, it's pub talk about old reliability problems that's completely out of date. Sure, a few unfortunate people have had problems and make a lot of noise about them, but the majority of people are delighted with their LRs. But then, haven't you heard of the recent abysmal reliability of Audis and Mercedes? Audi and BMW are right down the bottom of reliability tables both in the UK and the US, not to mention VW. They make great cars, but they're not problem free. In my experience, LRs hold their value really well in some countries. Maybe not in Germany, as they weren't big sellers there until recently... As for Discos, in the UK they might be [understated] status symbols for some members of the middle classes, but then we're looked down on by Range Rover drivers lol
I thought only Thomas could host properly Autogefühl! You prove me wrong! God job.
highly appreciated, proud of my team! /Thomas
A refreshing change to be so honest and spontaneous with comments. .... I would much rather learn about faults in advance than during ownership and after all you guys drive many more vehicles than we ever will so despite some degree of subjectiveness it was one of the best on this channel and indeed you tube overall. It is after all a review not an advertisement and as such I think it's great you had the balance of pros and cons as you went along .It certainly encourages us to be more aware in our own pre purchase evaluation so that can only be a good thing...a very worthwhile watch,thanks again guys.
Thanks!
Excellent review as always.
Some people here do not like to see the bad points highlighted and I understand that.
I personally like to see the weak points singled out.
Buying a car is as rational as it is an act of passion sometimes.
If you know beforehand the weak points and you still move forward to buy the car, then you are not being fooled, it is a choice you made.
This is where I believe Autogefühl it is extremely useful, because it assists you in making a conscious choice by enlisting both the strong points and, most important for me, the weak ones. When I discover a good quality in a car it is a pleasant surprise. When I discover a fault, pleasure is nowhere in sight.
Besides, I find this channel entertaining, quite so indeed.
Nice review! So many complaints and downvotes; I wonder, would this video's stats be different if Thomas had said the same exact things? Probably. Come on people, enough of the fanboiism - AJ is the most articulate presenter by a long shot because his english is so good, and he seems like a charming dude. I'd grab a beer with him any day.
this review couldn't be more detailed and truthful! it was perfect thank you
thanks, keep following us! :)
Excellent review.
Never seen such a wide range of good n bad points!👍👌
50 minutes worth !!
Cheers!
Nice review, Autogefühl. I looked at this today in showroom and I was a little disappointed with the second row seats. Yes there is room but thighs feel unsupported when your feet are flat on the floor. I too noticed the small fixtures were not as tight as other manufacturers. So Autogefühl/Thomas, what would you take if you had to pick: LR Discovery 5, Audi SQ7, Volvo XC 90 or Mercedes GLE?? Thanks for your insights and for the great reviews!
I (with 11 other drivers) was lucky enough to drive all JLR models supplied from the factory for a major sports event (to drive VIP’s around). Drove everything from the Discovery Sport, XJL, P400E RR, Velar, Discovery 5.....
After driving all models and getting over the ‘WOW’ factor, the car I would choose (if reliability wasn’t a problem) would be this, the Discovery 5.
Plenty of room (I have Grandchildren), decent trim level, handles ok for an SUV. Just a pity that reliability sucks. Every car in the supplied fleet had some ‘minor’ / intermittent electrical issue!
You keep complaining about the air suspension ?!? In your opinion the car "rolls" to much when cornering ?!? Sorry, but the problem is the guy behind the wheel, not the car. I have been driving the car in almost every thinkable condition, as well as on German Autobahn at high speeds. I can not confirm too much of "rolling" or so. I think your approach of curves is the problem, at least what I can see by watching your video. I think you enter the curve at a wrong angle, which causes you problems at the middle of the curve.
Many viewers are saying that this review is too focused on negative elements about this car. Isn't this the point of a review? Aren't critics supposed to point out the bads? If he only praises the car, wouldn't that be an advertisement? I personnaly really enjoyed the review, I like to know about the details.
This car is so dreamy. All the panels and leather are lined up perfectly and the electronics are as good as an iPhone!
Great review AJ, greetings from Luxembourg :-)
Really good review, pointed out good and bad parts of the car. Made it clear that some parts of the car you didn't like are ur opinion and others are actual flaws. Well done.
cheers tune in for more!
Very fair review, showed the good and the not so good rather than just gush about how great the car is. Land Rover has a marketing department for that. Still must be one of most practical SUVs in the world right now.
really appreciated!
Just got this car 2018 and I wish he explained the electronic display little more. The rolling during cornering is something all true SUVs will do due to high setting to allow off roading. This raises the center of gravity of the car higher. It is much quieter car than what it was before. I like the older boxy esthetics of previous generations but we do more of highway driving than off roading. Therefore, it may have been a logical choice to reduce drag and improve aerodynamics. He is not a Discovery fan but he does a great job reviewing all aspects of the car and yes we do drive by ourself or with one other person most of time so it would be a waste unless one has a huge family. It was really enjoyable and educational to watch this and I look forward to get more kicks out of this vehicle.
thanks for the feedback! Also enjoy our Discovery offroad review: ruclips.net/video/jj5m0lGbsFo/видео.html
I must say I really appreciate that you and Thomas always mention that there is no need for animal skin on car seats. I hope someday it will be heard by many carmakers like Mercedes Benz and Tesla already did, they propose good quality vegan leather options in their ranges. Also cloth eats should be available at any range level you choose even the highest end. And finally I hope this will increase public consciousness and demand for more creative and elegant cloth upholstery
thanks for the support!
Volvo now offers wool seats as an option instead of leather. Wish others would as well.
I like how the reviewer pointed out the sub-par build quality of the Discovery.
We can all see it, but we can't touch it.
Have you ever owned a Discovery or is this pub talk? A rating of 4.8 out of 5 on productreview.com.au tells you all you need to know about owner satisfaction.
I kinda like this guy's reviews.
thanks pal !
I saw one of these recently, Corris Grey with black pack and dynamic pack, it looked great. I remember when the Q7 was released it received a lot of negativity for it's looks. Audi even sacked the designer and it had to be delayed for a redesign. The Volvo is only 2 litre and it suffers from motorway overtaking, it moves like shit of a spade. I don't think there is one out right winner in this segment at the moment, they all have their good bad points. I agree with this reviewer, quality is an issue, I am always extra careful when I wash my wife's Evoque. Rattlely grill too.
Good review. Been thinking about getting one of these and considering that the HSE Luxury TD6 is $126K in Australia it is pretty important that the finish inside the Disco is impeccable. If the buttons are not very responsive and door trims are rough it is an important item to mention. This seems like something that could become very annoying after the "honeymoon" period is over. As far as reliability of LR, my friend has had a few Discos. Changes them as soon as the warranty runs out. Never really had any problems with them. When something did happen the dealership fixed under warranty and he had a courtesy car. Overall, his LR is more reliable than my Jeep Grand Cherokee and on par with my wife's Lexus. Not bad if you ask me.
thanks for the feedback!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH Autogefühl!!!!!! THANK YOU THOMAS. With this, I have an idea how the VELAR would ride. I know Thomas you didn't do this review because you want to save yourself for the Velar. I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO HANDLE THAT BEAST OF A MACHINE!!!
I like the bad points that he mentions! He sees and hears things that I would never notice. So good job pointing them out!
thanks stick with us!
A critical test,but fair and very detailed.
a big chin, a big rear end and number plate positioning that makes it look like its been slapped from one side with a boxing glove. i understand the heritage of that positioning but it works better, imo, with the square format plate not the regular long one. good work AJ
Nothing will ever look as good as the original Discovery and Discovery 2 shapes, but you can see the original discovery is still in there somewhere in terms of shape and design. I don't think the car is ugly, but they have softened it round the corners maybe too much compared to the previous Discovery's. Far as it being like a boat, probably an apt description. They are big cars and if you wiggle the steering yeah, it is going to shake. Any proper 4x4 will do that.
The previous model - Disco LR4 was the best in class and the bestseller after it's release. It was the best family car available. They've made serious mistake by abandoning the classic shape (unlike the Jeep Wrangler). The new LR5 is a conceptual failure with minimal technological improvement and cosmetic disappointment. The rear end is really ugly, missing split trunk door is a disappointment. Missing command seating position is a pity. The car is as expensive as Merc GLS? What have you done Land Rover team?
here in uk this disco starts at £47,000 which is over £2000 more than the very pretty range rover velar, i agree they have messed up big time with this 1, i own a LR4 but i wouldnt trade it for the LR5 no way
@James Wilkinson that makes no sense at all, ppl buy suvs as they need the extra space & to help then get around in winter snow etc .. so if you gotta buy an suv then you will buy 1 thats pretty over 1 that aint pretty, that makes sense
Nice Review...AJ has improved a lot. Good Going team..
way to go !
Looks good. And one of the best off roaders for the money! If the haters are talking about reliability, lets not talk about Audi, VW and Benz which more than have their issues. The Velar is a thing of beauty, however with LR being the way they are, leasing will be just as bad as buying. Head for the Atlas instead
Good review AJ.. great to see you improve every day ... way to go. Keep going !!!
The most onest review!
People need to know about bad things!
I own three different models from JLR and I know what AJ is talking about!
So...keep the good job!
good review...fair and totally independent. 2 thumbs up
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Also check out this special episode: ruclips.net/video/jj5m0lGbsFo/видео.html
great detailed review. I love the attention towards the build quality.
I personally prefer the visual identity of old models which were all very distinguishable and different. This new model of Discovery looks like awkward Range Rover... Couple of years a go there was no chance you would mix Freelander, Defender, Discovery and Range Rover...
Audi Q3/Q5/Q7, BMW X1/X3/X5, they all look the same but no one ever criticises them for having a close family look. Why is it OK for them but not Land Rover?
John Pitcher I didn't say it is okay. Enough with this German vs British criticism... I don't like ALL consumer/corporate driven designs today. There are some good examples like Aston, Jaguar, Morgan, Peugeot, Kia... but most of the cars today show that manufacturers have no courage to step away and experiment with design so you get Audi and Bmw where you have the same exact face on a different body. Unfortunately this goes for LR now too... which never had the quality but at least had the design.
Some facts that no-one in these car reviews mention. Compared to the previous model. 1) The load space is a lot SMALLER. With all seats folded it is 2400l vs 2550 for the old model. This is because the floor to ceiling measures 10cm less; You could get a bike upright in the old one if you took off the front wheel; You CANT in this 2) The old one has five full size comfortable seats in rows 2 and 3 with good access to row 3. In order to be able to fold the seats flat with electric motors they have ruined the comfort. The seats are very thinly padded and set way too low so that for a 1m80 adult your knees are up by your ears and to give the illusion of leg room the seat squabs are 5cm shorter in the new model. They are NOT ADULT SEATS and terribly uncomfortable. They are suitable only for children 3) Access to row 3 is terrible compared to the old model 4) the middle seat on row 2 is not a proper seat like in the old model; It is as hard as a plank of wood and only suitable for short journeys. Comfort has been sacrificed to make it into a fold down armrest.
I regularly travel long distances with 5 or more adults in perfect comfort in my Disco 4. You couldn't in this car. It is designed and priced for wealthy people who live in urban environments who want to take the kids to school. Needless to say i won't be buying one
Great review, thank you for your honesty!
Many car reviewers rarely, if ever, point out the negative aspects of a car because they are afraid to piss off the manufacturers.
When it comes out can you review the facelifted 2021 Discovery pls
If you really want a perspective on how this car performs then you need to hitch a 2-animal horsebox to it, load it with 3 teenagers and all the accoutrements needed for eventing, drive it for 90 miles, spend a day at a competition then drive it back again. The outcome? Flawless. Easily the most competent and comfortable vehicle in Europe for the job it was designed for.
Regarding the handling, what do you expect for a large 7 seat suv weighing 2.2 tonnes?
Vast improvement over previous model.
great review! i love all the deep storage and, usb and power outlets from land rover. you can really pack for a long trip on this one.
There are several other cars on the European market around the same size or bigger. I suggest you get somebody who likes big cars to test big cars - this guy makes it sound like this Discovery is the biggest thing on the road - I've driven it and it is perfectly fine in town, as long as you're used to driving big cars.
Also, in the UK Discos are usually bought by active families, especially outside cities, so little chance of them beng driven with just one or two persons. As for all the power points, if you knew what it was like with 4 teenagers and their friends in the car, you would know how vital those powerpoints actually are today to keep the peace on a long journey!
Good and complete review but I have never seen someone doing crazy things that a normal car driver would never do like keeping pushing buttons back and forth right and left continuously to comment on their quality or trying to roll over the car on high speed driving- looked interesting but car is very good
also check our offroad review: ruclips.net/video/jj5m0lGbsFo/видео.html
Very good review! Waiting for velar!
Great review, informative as usual.
thanks !
Good review AJ
Honestly, this was a good review. I think the flaws pointed out were valid for what is considered a luxury brand. And all the key points were covered while distinguishing between personal opinion and objective judgement. Ugly car though in my opinion. .
thanks bert!
Erstmal...
Vielen Dank für eure tollen Reviews. Sehr authentisch und interessant gestaltet.👍
ABER! Es wäre sehr interessant wenn ihr bei Fahrzeugen wie LR Discovery und Discovery Sport...
oder auch allgemein bei SUV/Pickup's mit hohem Nutzwert, auch mit einem grösseren Anhänger fahren würdet und diese Aspekte des Anhängerziehens ins Review einbauen würdet; oder auch ein eigenes Format damit machen würdet. Das wäre meiner Meinung nach noch interessant und wichtig. 😉
Nochmals vielen Dank für eure Videos und
Herzliche Grüsse aus der Schweiz.😁
I like your channel a lot and I liked some of the reviews that this guy have done, but I don't think he was too inspired in this one: very focused on bad points (and not very important ones) and he could touch the screen and buttons more carefully :D I've tested this car, by the way, but it is just my opinion. Excellent channel, anyway! ;)
Tomás García Martínez Built quality is important for a car that is over 100000 euro with the 300hp diesel and most options. That's a price point where you expect built quality. I couldn't live with this car. I would pick the XC90 in this price range it has a way better built quality or spend a little more on a Q7.
I'm totally agree with you (my father owns a new S90 and the quality and assistant system tech are better , equal to the XC90), but I mean, if you are so strict with one model, you should be so strict with others (I don't remember being so strict in the Infiniti Q60 test, for example). However, as I said, I have tested this car and the quality in general is good. But just my opinion
The XC90 and Q7 are very different cars inasmuch as they have zero off-roading capability. Hence unless you intend to go off road, the Discovery will be wasted on you. Having established that, the real competitors for the XC90/Q7 are the Mazda CX9, Hyundai SanteFe, Kia Sorento, and other jacked-up estate cars. However, if you want a real off-road vehicle that can drive on sanding mud on beaches and forest trails, then the Disco is the best of the bunch.
Agree with you too, no luxury-4x4 better than the Discovery
Tomás García Martínez clearly you've never driven an XC90 off road ... it's far from a jacked up wagon
I was looking forward to this review as I have one of these on order. But this isnt the best review by Autogefuhl. I really dont think we need to be told why we should or shouldnt buy the car. For me, I've got 4 kids and 2 dogs and need this size of car. I think it would have been better if the reviewer had been a family man/woman. I wish they could do the review again with Thomas.
his point was that very often nowadays, huge cars are being used by single drivers, an understandable point. Of course it looks different with a family.
Sure. But I havent come to this video to be lectured. Given it is a family car, I would have appreciated a review more based on that. Your sports car reviews (and I also own sports cars) dont say - "Its ridiculous that you can only get two people into this car and that its not able to carry 10"
And another thing. He goes on about USB and power points on more than 1 occasion. And WiFi. And I can tell you as a father of 4 kids you could cant have enough USB ports. I think you have totally missed the point of this car.
Very extensive review - the best on youtube for this car actually. Thank you!
Thx! Also tune in to our Discovery review from Utah
AJ, of all the cars you've tested so far which one would you be happy to drive day to day?
Hi R Mac
although it makes no sense, i loved the Porsche 911 GT3 RS! i would drive that car everyday! lol :P but thats a good question.. perhaps the mercedes c class.. i think its a great combination of sporty RWD, luxurious interior, great quality, great brand image, comfortable, reliable, not too small not too large, and reasonably priced if you get one of the smaller petrol engines..
-AJ
Thanks, interesting choice although I'm with you on the 911, I think I could move a few things around in my life to accommodate it :-)
+Aditya Jayaram - Interesting choices, AJ - nice! Many thanks (Great Review too, of course!).
Holy crap that car is huge - AJ looks like he was photoshopped in! 😊
Great review as always btw!
Not a fan of the number plate placement on the back of the car.
We should all be that lucky in handing over a lot of cash for a vehicle that the only gripe is the off-set license plate.
bo jangles .. It's not just the asymmetrical nature if the tailgate, it's the bulbous reverse tadpole proportions. It is one mother of ugliness.
what wheel size would you recommend for all season city and highway driving? would an upgrade from 20 inch to 21-22 inch be ok?
the bigger the wheel, the stiffer the ride, that's just physics. Depends on what u like
one of the negative points is the size?? its a big 7 seater suv!
A lot of hate in this review pointing out very minor details at fault without mentioning the positives, you wouldn't see this kind of review for the German car manufacturers
jaymulli - Yes but that's because the quality control of most german cars wouldn't have cleared the faults shown in the LR. The design of Jaguar and Land Rover is superb, but the finish is way behind most German and Japanese brands. Even in the Range Rover when you sit in it there are always aspects that make you think "This feels cheap".
There are definitely some cheaper elements inside this car but that happens with all cars to save cost but when German cars are reviewed on this channel they tend to talk about the overall quality which is generally very good as is the case with German cars but this review seemed to pick fault with little details without telling you how it was overall whereas other reviews I have seen praise the quality of the cabin
jaymulli ..I used to think people were unfair to land rover till i got in a range rover and was surprised by how the build is poor in some areas.For the asking price they need to be solid
lol , you clearly dont own a range rover , nor have you spent much time in one.
lol , you clearly dont own a range rover , nor have you spent much time in one.
Wow, nice offroad experience inside a mine and interesting detailed review :)
Very complete and nice review. Given the price tag of this car and the cheap features in its interior I'm not going to buy this Discovery as my future off road experience is near nil. I watched this review with great interest as my Father wants a new Discovery. thank you for all the details revealed worth being acknowledged of.
keep us updated!
very good review. its good to know the minor details
+davedavids thanks!!
I am owning a LR Discovery 3 and I think this is a great car. In terms of built quality in the interior I thinks this car was on the same level as the German competitors. The down-sides of the car is of cause after no 8-9 years there are more often repairs also on things that are just coming after that time and some really unplanned. And this is at LR really expensive. Nevertheless I love this car very much and enjoy driving it very much especially if you think how practically this car is. With the new one I just miss a bit the rugged view of the LR3 and 4.
thanks for the feedback!
One thing is this review puzzles me. Why is AJ reviewing the Discovery when he says he doesn't generally like big cars? It makes him kind of biased in my opinion.
This new discovery is a collision between house styling cues and interior volume requirements not seen since the first generation cayenne. It's especially galling that a brand that makes only SUV s have this problem.
The problem in my view is the shrunken greenhouse. The belt line is crazy high for a car like this, and they managed to also make it look front drive even with the front wheels so far forward. There's also a crazy amount of metal between the top of the rear tire and the bottom of the windows. That's the pointlessly high belt line at work again.
And you can see the unfinished, unprotected rear muffler just standing behind the thing!
Have you compared this with the Jeep Grand Cherokee? Not sure if you can get in Europe?
+Jay G. Yes we can get it here however the current model is also very old now I think we will wait for the new one for a full review
Not sure about this review, some of the comments are not accurate and quite biased, he admits he doesn't like large cars. Also when he says about the size of the car if you look at it against the size of a BMW X5, although it is 16mm wider and 120mm higher, the BMW X5 is 57mm longer with a 108mm longer wheelbase.
Pretty biased review. Thomas did a much better job. Here’s a tip. People watching this review are looking for a family SUV that is large enough to carry their stuff. Complaining about the size of the car is kinda stating the obvious.if you ever have kids you will know they need the USB outlets to charge their stuff.
Thomas mach bitte ein Review über den range Rover velar! danke!😉
Versuchen wir schnellstmöglich!
Autogefühl sehr schön! 😉 ihr seid die besten!😊
Complaining about the size is ridiculous. SUV’s in this segment have their eyes not only on the FAMILY market (this is a English school-run SUV) but also on the American market (See A7 & A8 et al.) where to justify the price one must produce a car that has a “presence”. My other gripe about this detailed review is the USB comments. Again this is a family car. One parent with two kids and a couple of their friends and suddenly the USB option is useful if not critical on long journeys. Otherwise, good detail as ever - reason I subscribe. Ps: my wife wants one because we have two girls (in baby chairs) and frequently also a grandparent... but your air suspension warning is useful. Maybe we’ll hold out to look to compare it to the 2021 (7 seat) Grand Jeep Cherokee which comes out in a few months.
What color is this?! Thomas always mention the color and this car looks really good in this color
I'm really kinda disappointed on the way the built quality seems. I had a fully loaded 2009 LR2 and it was a small tank and never had any problem with anything like quality.
Whatcar true mpg tests say the 2L derv Disco 5 does just 26mpg. .. yes you read that right just 26mpg, the worst mismatch of claimed mpg to real mpg of any vehicle available today. So it's not just ugly it's also hopelessly inefficient.
Ajlan is an awesome reviewer!
thanks daniel!
A great review. Thanks.
+Roman Grom 👍
Did you guys do some special effects and shrunk AJ?? Or is this vehicle the size of a school bus?? Holy....
haha =)
Angular and rounded?
can it be modified for a hearse?
ON reviewing your show saying it's to big for country roads? it was born in the UK, on those very country roads, i personally thinks it's the best value land rover in the group for comfort
Can somebody tell mewhat is this color of this discovery
what color is this??
Haha AJ, at minute 25:00 you said that the car is too large for EU roads and at 31:30 I saw what you mean.
But have you tried driving this in the United Kingdom? Haha that's the homeland of narrow roads in or out of the city (the ones that do not have dual carriageway)
Other than that great review, though I would take the Range Rover Sport any time over this. Or the GLE.
heh yeah totally, also seen in Thomas' Bentley driving near Crewe
Just wanted to give the input you asked for. I hate the look of this vehicle. I love the look of the LR4 and I'm really not happy that they did away with the trademark split tailgate. As far as styling goes I think Land Rover consumers totally love the boxier look. The boxier look makes it more truck-like and less mini-van like. (I'm trying to avoid the terms masculine and feminine, but you get the idea. This look makes the car look neutered). This thing really just looks like an over-sized honda-pilot 2017 now and I think it's a huge mistake. So many dumb styling options here.
thanks for the feedback!
I don't like this new Discovery look, especially the tail, it lost a lot of its character. People are complaining about the reviewer, however I think he pointed very valid points. You buy a luxury brand, you throw tons of money into it, but the you get these low quality buttons. It just spoils all the joy of buying such a car. In regard to other complains about weight, roll of air suspension, etc - I don't think you can really complain about laws of physics. You have to accept it with this car. It's like buying a tank and complaining its tracks are noisy, and it is hard to park in the city.
Great review. Bring back the old model, this new one from the B pillar onwards has had a design malfunction!!!
i've noticed:
German numberplates.
Luxembourg village.
Belgium numberplates in cave.
And I wonder; where the hell have you guys been and why so many different car registrations?
I like the new design but the back. I feel uneasy every time I look at it
I like AJ , but........ he is reviewing this car as if it is a sports car! what do you mean it feels like a boat? of course it does! its a family sized SUV!
I totally share his opinion. It's about you can build a Full-Size-SUV in a sporty way or in a boat-feeling-alike way. Its about what you prefer, but he states the general driving characteristic of that car. /Thomas
The issue is that in Germany you have very smooth roads and off-roading is virtually non-existent, so your carmakers fit very stiff suspension that doesn't roll but transmits every bump into the cabin. In the rest of the world roads are far rougher and we do go off-road so the smoothness of the Disco air suspension is a delight. No one buys a Disco for sports-car handling and I applaud LR for opting for comfort over sportiness. Its one of the reasons why you never see a BMW/Audi/Merc on forest trails or beaches, they are very uncomfortable and simply can't cope with the rough stuff.
Hi John
you make some very good points. Perhaps i came off as being too harsh on the car.. i certainly like the disco.. in fact, im a big fan of the defender.. and LRs are amazing off-road, as we saw in the test in the mine.. build quality has come a long way, but still has some ways to go.. and the air suspension, size, and driving dynamics are certainly not going to please everyone..statistically, most off-roaders spend most of their time on road instead.. hence, on road manners in daily driving conditions are more important overall.. although a major USP of the disco is its off-road capability..
We always try to arm our viewers with as much information and observations as we can with the limited time we get, so that they can make a more educated decision.. and we very much appreciate you sharing your first hand experience with owning and running this car.. stay tuned to autogefuehl and stay active in the community.
cheers
AJ
Review the Velar please!!!
+Joshie will do
What color?)
That Disco has been well and truly hit with the ugly stick!!
Yes I'm not so sure.........👀
this really is 5 reviews in 1
You can't stay in lane?
It’s nothing like the Discovery, it’s a completely different vehicle which isn’t a compliment while there’s no original Discovery on offer. Land Rover ruined it.
The rear looks hideous. What were they thinking?
I own 2 discovery 2s & do not like the look of it it is to low, I don't like the tailgate. I don't do push button start . I don't like the shift knob looks cheap..I don't like power seat controls. I miss the manual transmission option. I like the the dual sun roofs in mine. no v8 option forget it.
(just nitpicking) try to switch things up "This is the..." = "Here we can find... "
What about third row of seats!
In this test, we had the 5-seater. Check out this video for the 7-seater: ruclips.net/video/jj5m0lGbsFo/видео.html
I wish I could have one.
most unreliable vehicles ever made.. but dam they ride smooth as glass.. i dnt last more than 3 years with my RANGE ROVERS.. 1 THEY DEPRECIATE LIKE CRAZY.. 2 THEY BRAKE PARTS LIKE LEGOS..SMH
I am on my 3rd Disco, and after 4 years ownership (from new) of my previous two I got 70% of the purchase price back. My current Disco is 3 years old, and if I sold it today I would get 80% of my purchase price back. Hence I can't agree with your depreciation story, I am amazed at how Discos hold their value. Maybe you should try selling yours privately instead of trading them in and giving the dealer all the profit. Similarly, I have had minimal issues in 11 years of Land Rover ownership and regularly take mine off road. Sure, maybe Toyotas are more reliable but they are so horrible to drive, and require 6 monthly servicing, I'll take a Land Rover any day.
Hi John
you make some very good points. Perhaps i came off as being too harsh on the car.. i certainly like the disco.. in fact, im a big fan of the defender.. and LRs are amazing off-road, as we saw in the test in the mine.. build quality has come a long way, but still has some ways to go.. and the air suspension, size, and driving dynamics are certainly not going to please everyone..statistically, most off-roaders spend most of their time on road instead.. hence, on road manners in daily driving conditions are more important overall.. although a major USP of the disco is its off-road capability..
We always try to arm our viewers with as much information and observations as we can with the limited time we get, so that they can make a more educated decision.. and we very much appreciate you sharing your first hand experience with owning and running this car.. stay tuned to autogefuehl and stay active in the community.
cheers
AJ
NEVER OBEY my toyota carina 2 1986. have amoust 250 000 miles and its like new.
Now thqt's a totally outdated statement. They definitely were unreliable in the 90s and early 00s. But since they got away from Ford, LRs are much more relialble and getting better by the year. I'm on my 4th LR and, apart from a cracked windscreen, have never had one single problem. The important thing is to always service on time and look after them, then they'll look after you. Best family car ever!
John, I'm on my 4th LR, had the same trouble-free experience. Totally agree, it's pub talk about old reliability problems that's completely out of date. Sure, a few unfortunate people have had problems and make a lot of noise about them, but the majority of people are delighted with their LRs. But then, haven't you heard of the recent abysmal reliability of Audis and Mercedes? Audi and BMW are right down the bottom of reliability tables both in the UK and the US, not to mention VW. They make great cars, but they're not problem free. In my experience, LRs hold their value really well in some countries. Maybe not in Germany, as they weren't big sellers there until recently... As for Discos, in the UK they might be [understated] status symbols for some members of the middle classes, but then we're looked down on by Range Rover drivers lol
I love
Great design, best 4x4 in every class.
To bad the quality is a joke, is it build from compressed rust and recycled crap ?
Excellent review, i changed my mind i won;t buy it. lots of flimsy plastic...