When are you going to do part 2 of the superstar saga bosses ranking? And speaking of superstar saga, you should rank the bros attacks from superstar saga
I can see how this would be the case, but honestly in that regard I think it would be funnier if they just had Hooktail come back and you just one shot her 🤣
I personally don't really like the Glitz Pit Bowser battle, because it makes no sense. Like, the point of his adventure is to show that he is right behind Mario, giving a slight bit of urgency, but then he appears in the Glitz pit, then goes BACK to the second world, and then wants to go back to the glitz pit again?
Btw the reason the remake changed hooktail's weakness to frogs is that the remake is based on the japanese version of the game and that's the sound she is afraid of originally
I'VE FOUND ANOTHER PERSON WITH THAT SAME OPINION THANK GOD LOL, I completely agree with this and it's something I mention a crap ton in this video because it does ruin potentially good bosses.
Yeah, I don’t ever expect bosses in Mario games to be super difficult, but I literally tried a challenge run of this game where I only leveled up bp, but used no badges. I had little to no trouble with ANY boss until Grodus
Well, that's why I recommend trying out different moves a lot more. Can help keep the game a lot more interesting even if some things are pretty overpowered.
I couldn’t watch this video when it came out because I was driving home from vacation but now that I’m back (side note: it feels GREAT!) But this video didn’t disappoint me at all just like usual 😁
I only see it as Crickets and never frogs. Honestly I don't even see frogs in real life anymore, I only know them as crickets because of how OG I truly am.
The main reason why I love the Lord crump fight in chapter 5 is because of it's placement and my overall experience right before the fight. You have just defeated a ghost legendary , threatening Pirate captain with a genuinely intimidating design. To add to that on my play through he absolutely kicked my ass (yes. I didn't use power lift. I want to have fun) and the only reason I won was because I pulled off a super guard when both him and mario were at 1 hp. You'd think chapter would end here and suddenly Lord Crump busts in. He as an Antagonist always worked for me SPECIFICALLY because of how little of a threat he actually posed, and now getting this not all that hard fight against him, literal 5 minutes after beating Cortez just displays it perfectly. How goofy most of his attacks are, the way I was able to effortlessly super guard his giant x naut ball attack each time, and the new part to his theme added in the remake! It all came together to make the experience of pure clowning on him for the whole fight absolutely magical.
I will say it seems really hard to super guard the ball attack so that be impressive tbh, I also think even with power lift the fight isn’t a cakewalk so it’s pretty solid
One thing as well, most of shadow queens attacks are piercing iirc, which means they completely ignore defense (making power lift once again not quite as op!)
Oh wait they are...well good that it makes it less damaging but I sadly have to take back my point of almost doing 20 HP then, hey at that point around 15 damage is still a crap ton so it definitely doesn't make the fight any less amazing!
I never used power lift, so I had a good time with every boss. However I had a weird time with both bowser fights. BOTH TIMES I leveled up from the fights just before, so I went in both fights with full stats.
Oh that's so lucky LOL, For the 2nd Bowser Fight, I had a Shine Sprite Bingo at like the perfect time so luck just randomly comes in this game at the best and worst times.
Yeah Mega Rush strats are even worse. Luckily that is something that the devs don’t completely intend you to do or at least to the scale Mega Rush players do nowadays so I don’t take away from the bosses in that regard. Power Lift is different since it’s a single move that is given to you and not able to be equipped or unequipped.
It would yes. A couple things wouldn’t like Shadow Queen would be number 1 obviously still and stuff that is before the thing unlocked would still stay the same, but others would obviously go up if I can’t cheese it
The bosses are so easy in this that’s the major issue even with the double damage badge the difficulty does increase that much especially because some of them can be cheesed with the sleeping jump badge I beated the chap 3 boss without him even being able to attack me once maybe immuning the boss to all the status effect could help increase the difficulty and it doesn’t help that enemies cant wake up anymore in the remake they just made it more easy for the player to win but putting all of that away the bosses have all cool concepts and stories behind them
Honestly when it comes to the ttyd bosses I feel like the concepts and settings for the bosses are so much cooler than the bosses themselves it’s why I love Smorg so much. I still really wish the bosses were more difficult because gameplay-wise there weren’t many standouts for me besides Grubba and the Secret Bosses
That’s probably why I liked Smorg so much initially too, but the gameplay needs to be there at least a bit 💀. I haven’t fought the secret bosses in the remake yet but I can tell from what people have said that they will be pretty solid.
Shroom invader: sir grodus is 5 on the list. Me: respected. Edit: sir grodus is number 2 on my list because if your gonna make the main antagonist number 2 you've gotta do it right. Double edit: i havent even used power lift and i'm almost done with the game. Triple edit: i think i'll make the shadow queen fight look like a joke.
That would be pretty cool tbh, it might be potentially tedious if it goes on for a while but I think at the very least them becoming healers would be an improvement to the fight for sure
True but Power Lift isn’t something like the Mega Rush badge where you can toggle it on and off. It’s a move that they expect you to use and don’t really prepare bosses for it which makes the bosses way too easy.
@@ShroobInvader it doesn't NEED toggling off because you can just ignore it??? You CHOOSE to use it if you want, and deciding to not use it is equivalent to toggling it off
EVEN WORSE LOL, even though that one is not as bad since it is a way more niche strategy that the developers wouldn't know about...not for the remake but at least for the Original game.
On average yeah I would say so, not in every case like I think Superstar Saga bosses are pretty dang easy but then Paper Jam and Partners in Time has some difficult ones
Great video like always. Are you also gonna rank the chapters of this game. Btw what do you think of the palace of shadows in the remake. I thought it was MILES better than the original. The music actually gave me chills and much like color splash and origami king, it plays during battle
Thank you, potentially for the first question, and the 2nd question, Imma be honest my opinion stayed the same 💀. I will say my opinion did go up from what it was before just naturally but my playthrough didn’t change anything personally.
@@ShroobInvaderah I see. Also let me tell you a secret. I honestly never used power lift on any of the bosses cause that would be OP. I wanted to do it the fun way
If your partners aren't ultra ranked then idk what you have been doing, as well as you have to use power lift to buff your attack to deal more damage with moves like Power Bounce or Spring Jump
Ehh...cannot agree with this sadly. I adore the bosses from this game but I think they should have been buffed up personally. Most players love to play as good as they can be. Making personal handicaps or forgoing certain strategies are options but the TTYD bosses in particular could be made harder like the ones N64 paper Mario. Also I really wished the remake added a Double Pain P for a true hard mode experience for all our heroes, not just Mario.
Even though the Giant Blooper is last, at least Mario gets to fight any giant Blooper enemy, like Gooper Blooper from Super Mario Sunshine. I also prefer to call the ghostly witches the Shadow Sirens instead of the generic Three Shadows name.
For Mario and Luigi games it’s quite common just because Bros Attack usage is just gonna make a boss fight more fun, but for TTYD it’s different. They just need more interesting attacks. Magnus Von Grapple was close to doing this but it’s slow first phase really brought it down heavily.
Haven't seen the video yet,but hopeful to see that toad who is a secret boss at the Glitz Pit in the remake of the game at number 1. P.S:I'm obviusly joking,but what do you think about that boss shroob and do you think that he is better,worse or simillar to the scissors from the origami king?
Oh don't worry it would be very impressive if I WASN'T spoiled of it's existence up to this point, I just have never seen any of its attacks or stats but I obviously knew it existed before this video was even in conception
Well, this was an interesting list. I will say though, the constant mention of Power Lift breaking every fight got a bit tiresome to listen to. Like, yeah, it's OP as hell in the remake, but that doesn't mean you have to use it if you don't like how easy it makes some battles. Something I'll probably try is only allowing as many buffs from it as the chapter number. For example, I can boost by 2 attack and 2 defense in Chapter 4 and can't use 4 of both until Chapter 8. Might help to make the mid-game bosses less underwhelming. This is why, in single player RPGs like this at least, these kinds of issues aren't really a huge concern for me. You don't have to use OP options just because the game gives you them. These kinds of games naturally have difficulty options built right into their mechanics. Also, just curious, did you ever even encounter Smorg's second phase where he uses the claw miasma that deals 10 damage to both characters? Because you didn't even mention that in the video. It's one of the more memorable things about that fight just because of how much damage that is compared to everything else you've battled up to that point.
(Ok I just typed something and RUclips just got rid of it so I'm writing a smaller comment) I like the idea of the Power Lift rework since it would 1000% solve the problem with the mid game bosses for sure. With Smorg, I don't think Glass Cannons work in this game well at all. With Power Lift and the fact that Smorg doesn't attack after changing forms, you can take him and his limbs out so fast before he can even really attack once. Because of this, I was never actually able to experience the Claw this time around which is disappointing but even then I don't think it would have improved my opinion that much on it. Maybe raised it up to Number 6 at most, maybe Number 5? The Scaling in this game because of Power Lift becomes really wonky which is definitely not great.
@@ShroobInvader Well hey, since TTYD is my personal favorite Mario RPG, I have years of experience challenge running it, so finding ways to make what's otherwise an easy game a lot more interesting is kind of my whole shtick. You'd be surprised just how much that can change things up when playing, especially for a game like this. As for Smorg being a glass cannon, yeah, it's true that, with TTYD being an offensively focused game, Smorg can go down surprisingly quickly compared to other bosses, but I suppose that is just the nature of glass cannon bosses.
I have video suggestion, how about Mario RPG series Hot Takes, any hot takes you have on the rpg series, it could be an interesting video but it's just a suggestion you don't have to do it
To be honest, I don’t like that the Bosses are boring but worst of all I don’t like that Bosses infuriate me because it makes me not want to play a game anymore.
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How about badge rankings or badge effects from the M&L games
Play Bug Fables, it’s kinda like the first 2 Paper Mario’s, but it’s more open/exploratory and has a way better combat system. I think you’d like it
When are you going to do part 2 of the superstar saga bosses ranking?
And speaking of superstar saga, you should rank the bros attacks from superstar saga
@@ShroobInvader mario rpg bosses ranked
@@ShroobInvader remake of the top 10 best bosses in all mario rpg series
I always felt like Gloomtail was basically a "look at how far you've come" boss fight
I can see how this would be the case, but honestly in that regard I think it would be funnier if they just had Hooktail come back and you just one shot her 🤣
Lol oof. That'd be funny
I personally don't really like the Glitz Pit Bowser battle, because it makes no sense. Like, the point of his adventure is to show that he is right behind Mario, giving a slight bit of urgency, but then he appears in the Glitz pit, then goes BACK to the second world, and then wants to go back to the glitz pit again?
That’s true and that doesn’t make sense…it doesn’t affect my opinion but it do be very random
Btw the reason the remake changed hooktail's weakness to frogs is that the remake is based on the japanese version of the game and that's the sound she is afraid of originally
I did not know that, thank you for telling me lol
@@ShroobInvader great video, but can you rank every final boss theme for the Mario franchise please.
My biggest problem with the bosses are that they are SO EASY. Like literally one power lift destroys every boss up to gloomtail.
I'VE FOUND ANOTHER PERSON WITH THAT SAME OPINION THANK GOD LOL, I completely agree with this and it's something I mention a crap ton in this video because it does ruin potentially good bosses.
Yeah, I don’t ever expect bosses in Mario games to be super difficult, but I literally tried a challenge run of this game where I only leveled up bp, but used no badges. I had little to no trouble with ANY boss until Grodus
Playing through the remake really made me realize this too! It’s crazy how busted the move is lol.
just don’t use it then
Well, that's why I recommend trying out different moves a lot more. Can help keep the game a lot more interesting even if some things are pretty overpowered.
I couldn’t watch this video when it came out because I was driving home from vacation but now that I’m back (side note: it feels GREAT!) But this video didn’t disappoint me at all just like usual 😁
Thank you and welcome back!
Legends remember when crickets were the secret weapon for defeating Hooktail
I only see it as Crickets and never frogs. Honestly I don't even see frogs in real life anymore, I only know them as crickets because of how OG I truly am.
@AlbertBoris i see it as Frogs.
Cause in german it always where frogs
Whenever I do a boss, I never use power lift because I know how broken it is. I only use it on Shadow Queen and Bonetail.
Yeah that's valid for sure
Having to tattle the bosses multiple times definitely threw me for a loop.
And this is why even though I know the Peekaboo badge is objectively bad, I still use it!
This was what I was waiting for this is a good video and my fave boss is still macho Grubba
That do be a very good boss I must say
Indeed :)
The main reason why I love the Lord crump fight in chapter 5 is because of it's placement and my overall experience right before the fight. You have just defeated a ghost legendary , threatening Pirate captain with a genuinely intimidating design. To add to that on my play through he absolutely kicked my ass (yes. I didn't use power lift. I want to have fun) and the only reason I won was because I pulled off a super guard when both him and mario were at 1 hp. You'd think chapter would end here and suddenly Lord Crump busts in. He as an Antagonist always worked for me SPECIFICALLY because of how little of a threat he actually posed, and now getting this not all that hard fight against him, literal 5 minutes after beating Cortez just displays it perfectly. How goofy most of his attacks are, the way I was able to effortlessly super guard his giant x naut ball attack each time, and the new part to his theme added in the remake! It all came together to make the experience of pure clowning on him for the whole fight absolutely magical.
I will say it seems really hard to super guard the ball attack so that be impressive tbh, I also think even with power lift the fight isn’t a cakewalk so it’s pretty solid
@@ShroobInvader it's hard enough to not be a total nothing burger, but it's easy enough to remind you.... It's fucking Lord crump-
One thing as well, most of shadow queens attacks are piercing iirc, which means they completely ignore defense (making power lift once again not quite as op!)
Oh wait they are...well good that it makes it less damaging but I sadly have to take back my point of almost doing 20 HP then, hey at that point around 15 damage is still a crap ton so it definitely doesn't make the fight any less amazing!
After brothership comes out you should do a ranking of plant bosses so petey pirahna,mama pirahna,pirhana bean,and new potted plant boss
I AGREE. The bosses in this game aren’t bad, but they don’t hold a candle to the bosses of the Mario and Luigi games
They are fun, but Yeah idk the less dynamic battle system compared to Mario and Luigi makes these bosses less enjoyable at least in my opinion.
I think that's right except for superstar saga which bosses can go down in 1 hit.
Honestly, not sure if I think classic Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi has better bosses. I like both series a lot, after all.
I disagree tbh, I liked TTYD battle system and bosses more than the Mario and Luigi bosses
I'm currently playing TTYD for the first time, it's pretty cool.
It do be a pretty cool game
I never used power lift, so I had a good time with every boss. However I had a weird time with both bowser fights. BOTH TIMES I leveled up from the fights just before, so I went in both fights with full stats.
Oh that's so lucky LOL, For the 2nd Bowser Fight, I had a Shine Sprite Bingo at like the perfect time so luck just randomly comes in this game at the best and worst times.
If you don't like what Power Lift does in Boss Fights, then I feel you'd hate what Danger Mario/Peril Partners would do against them.
Yeah Mega Rush strats are even worse. Luckily that is something that the devs don’t completely intend you to do or at least to the scale Mega Rush players do nowadays so I don’t take away from the bosses in that regard. Power Lift is different since it’s a single move that is given to you and not able to be equipped or unequipped.
@@ShroobInvader but the game doesn't force you to use it once it's there unlike if you equipped Mega Rush, so that's just a really weird point
If they ever make another classic style Paper Mario game, they definitely need to fix those balancing issues
I agree completely
Would your rankings change much if Power Lift wasn't OP or didn't exist?
It would yes. A couple things wouldn’t like Shadow Queen would be number 1 obviously still and stuff that is before the thing unlocked would still stay the same, but others would obviously go up if I can’t cheese it
The bosses are so easy in this that’s the major issue even with the double damage badge the difficulty does increase that much especially because some of them can be cheesed with the sleeping jump badge I beated the chap 3 boss without him even being able to attack me once maybe immuning the boss to all the status effect could help increase the difficulty and it doesn’t help that enemies cant wake up anymore in the remake they just made it more easy for the player to win but putting all of that away the bosses have all cool concepts and stories behind them
I always pretended that most bosses are immune to such status effects. Sleepy Stomp is idiotically OP as of now....
It would have been very interesting if you would talk about the new bosses including in the remake
The issue with it is that I haven't actually fought them yet so I really couldn't. I also don't talk about optional bosses on lists like these anyways
Can you compare them in a separate video
Honestly when it comes to the ttyd bosses I feel like the concepts and settings for the bosses are so much cooler than the bosses themselves it’s why I love Smorg so much. I still really wish the bosses were more difficult because gameplay-wise there weren’t many standouts for me besides Grubba and the Secret Bosses
That’s probably why I liked Smorg so much initially too, but the gameplay needs to be there at least a bit 💀. I haven’t fought the secret bosses in the remake yet but I can tell from what people have said that they will be pretty solid.
Shroom invader: sir grodus is 5 on the list.
Me: respected.
Edit: sir grodus is number 2 on my list because if your gonna make the main antagonist number 2 you've gotta do it right.
Double edit: i havent even used power lift and i'm almost done with the game.
Triple edit: i think i'll make the shadow queen fight look like a joke.
Destroy that annoying villain 🤣
@@ShroobInvader i will but let me defeat magnus von grapple first.
Edit:which villain grodus, or shadow queen.
Had idea for dooplies make it require to kill all of the partners or else they keep reviving him
That would be pretty cool tbh, it might be potentially tedious if it goes on for a while but I think at the very least them becoming healers would be an improvement to the fight for sure
I pretty much always just KO every partner as an extra self-imposed restriction. Makes it so that fight isn't quite so easy.
I mean in the ttyd your op as hell so dooplies have to be revive a lot
All your issues with most of these battles can be solved by just... not using Power Lift.
True but Power Lift isn’t something like the Mega Rush badge where you can toggle it on and off. It’s a move that they expect you to use and don’t really prepare bosses for it which makes the bosses way too easy.
@@ShroobInvader it doesn't NEED toggling off because you can just ignore it??? You CHOOSE to use it if you want, and deciding to not use it is equivalent to toggling it off
Power Lift? Nah DANGER MARIO 😂
EVEN WORSE LOL, even though that one is not as bad since it is a way more niche strategy that the developers wouldn't know about...not for the remake but at least for the Original game.
This is an awesome list, TTYD is goated
the mario and luigi games bosses are infinitely harder than the paper mario ones
On average yeah I would say so, not in every case like I think Superstar Saga bosses are pretty dang easy but then Paper Jam and Partners in Time has some difficult ones
In short: PM has a defense problem. More enemues and bosses need more defense points
Yep that could definitely solve it at least for bosses
Great video like always. Are you also gonna rank the chapters of this game. Btw what do you think of the palace of shadows in the remake. I thought it was MILES better than the original. The music actually gave me chills and much like color splash and origami king, it plays during battle
Thank you, potentially for the first question, and the 2nd question, Imma be honest my opinion stayed the same 💀. I will say my opinion did go up from what it was before just naturally but my playthrough didn’t change anything personally.
@@ShroobInvaderah I see. Also let me tell you a secret. I honestly never used power lift on any of the bosses cause that would be OP. I wanted to do it the fun way
Magnus von grapple 2.0 within your top 10 worst bosses of Mario RPGs
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A comparison of Sticker Star and Colour Splash :3
Also do you have any advice for the Shadow Queen fight?
If your partners aren't ultra ranked then idk what you have been doing, as well as you have to use power lift to buff your attack to deal more damage with moves like Power Bounce or Spring Jump
@@ShroobInvader Thanks :3 and don't worry they ARE ultra ranked
Bro came back
Seriously? Just DONT USE POWER LIFTS AND POWER PLUSSES, you're not forced to use them, and its your own fault for making these bosses "easier"...!
Ehh...cannot agree with this sadly. I adore the bosses from this game but I think they should have been buffed up personally. Most players love to play as good as they can be. Making personal handicaps or forgoing certain strategies are options but the TTYD bosses in particular could be made harder like the ones N64 paper Mario.
Also I really wished the remake added a Double Pain P for a true hard mode experience for all our heroes, not just Mario.
Even though the Giant Blooper is last, at least Mario gets to fight any giant Blooper enemy, like Gooper Blooper from Super Mario Sunshine. I also prefer to call the ghostly witches the Shadow Sirens instead of the generic Three Shadows name.
True and also valid cause Three Shadows is boring as a name
You know, what’s with paper Mario games and big bloopers? The only one without a big blooper boss is color splash.
Macho gruba is the best fight in ttyd mainly because power lift absolutely destroys the Shadow Queen if you have power bounce and power Rush
with how often first/ early game bosses end up at the bottom of lists, i'm curious, how would you design an early game boss?
For Mario and Luigi games it’s quite common just because Bros Attack usage is just gonna make a boss fight more fun, but for TTYD it’s different. They just need more interesting attacks. Magnus Von Grapple was close to doing this but it’s slow first phase really brought it down heavily.
Haven't seen the video yet,but hopeful to see that toad who is a secret boss at the Glitz Pit in the remake of the game at number 1.
P.S:I'm obviusly joking,but what do you think about that boss shroob and do you think that he is better,worse or simillar to the scissors from the origami king?
The answer to that is very simple...I haven't ever fought it or seen it yet so I don't know how to feel
@@ShroobInvader oooops...sry for tellimg you spoilers about it
Oh don't worry it would be very impressive if I WASN'T spoiled of it's existence up to this point, I just have never seen any of its attacks or stats but I obviously knew it existed before this video was even in conception
Well, this was an interesting list.
I will say though, the constant mention of Power Lift breaking every fight got a bit tiresome to listen to. Like, yeah, it's OP as hell in the remake, but that doesn't mean you have to use it if you don't like how easy it makes some battles.
Something I'll probably try is only allowing as many buffs from it as the chapter number. For example, I can boost by 2 attack and 2 defense in Chapter 4 and can't use 4 of both until Chapter 8. Might help to make the mid-game bosses less underwhelming. This is why, in single player RPGs like this at least, these kinds of issues aren't really a huge concern for me. You don't have to use OP options just because the game gives you them. These kinds of games naturally have difficulty options built right into their mechanics.
Also, just curious, did you ever even encounter Smorg's second phase where he uses the claw miasma that deals 10 damage to both characters? Because you didn't even mention that in the video. It's one of the more memorable things about that fight just because of how much damage that is compared to everything else you've battled up to that point.
(Ok I just typed something and RUclips just got rid of it so I'm writing a smaller comment)
I like the idea of the Power Lift rework since it would 1000% solve the problem with the mid game bosses for sure.
With Smorg, I don't think Glass Cannons work in this game well at all. With Power Lift and the fact that Smorg doesn't attack after changing forms, you can take him and his limbs out so fast before he can even really attack once. Because of this, I was never actually able to experience the Claw this time around which is disappointing but even then I don't think it would have improved my opinion that much on it. Maybe raised it up to Number 6 at most, maybe Number 5? The Scaling in this game because of Power Lift becomes really wonky which is definitely not great.
@@ShroobInvader Well hey, since TTYD is my personal favorite Mario RPG, I have years of experience challenge running it, so finding ways to make what's otherwise an easy game a lot more interesting is kind of my whole shtick. You'd be surprised just how much that can change things up when playing, especially for a game like this.
As for Smorg being a glass cannon, yeah, it's true that, with TTYD being an offensively focused game, Smorg can go down surprisingly quickly compared to other bosses, but I suppose that is just the nature of glass cannon bosses.
I think you should do more videos on the original paper Mario
I have video suggestion, how about Mario RPG series Hot Takes, any hot takes you have on the rpg series, it could be an interesting video but it's just a suggestion you don't have to do it
Will you do Mario Luigi brother ship bosses worst to best
Can you make a rank of the paper mario games
No hit run on a boss without super guards
To be honest, I don’t like that the Bosses are boring but worst of all I don’t like that Bosses infuriate me because it makes me not want to play a game anymore.
Am i the only one who never played paper mario ttyd?
I mean objectively no…BUT YOU TOTALLY SHOULD
Atomic boo top 5 favorite bosses why because of the theme if you could do that with Wendy in color splash I could do that
The thumbnail shows the original paper mario ttyd logio and not the remake logo. Criminal
How? The remake's logo is recreated from the original Japanese logo.
well but its different
I actually was going to do the remake but the logo is just weirdly slanted in a way where it didn’t really fit.
This is kinda a terrible list. I mean, you misunderstood the game design behind most of these
Which ones do you think I misunderstood aside from the ones that I criticized for being broken with Power Lift?