Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) - Interview

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  • Опубликовано: 20 фев 2017
  • Alternative metal king, Stephen Carpenter of Deftones talks about his early influences and those that led him from 6 to 7 to 8 string guitars!
    Learn more about Stephen: www.tcelectronic.com/stephen-carpenter
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  • @ryelor
    @ryelor 6 лет назад +74

    I've always loved Stephen's playing, but hearing how humble he is makes me like him even more.

  • @sirefromtheshire
    @sirefromtheshire 7 лет назад +293

    Totally underrated and unique guitar player.

    • @jukujuku6153
      @jukujuku6153 5 лет назад +32

      Underrated? Deftones is like one of the largest alt-metal bands out there! Unless you mean under appreciated, which i could possibly see

    • @mck7646
      @mck7646 4 года назад +19

      He's carved his own niche. Love his style, working with textures and rhythms rather than flashy lead playing.

    • @jbasti227
      @jbasti227 4 года назад +13

      @@jukujuku6153 People love throwing "underrated" around without having any idea what it means

    • @liial9869
      @liial9869 4 года назад +4

      underrated overrated jesuschristrated stop

    • @er1cmaurer
      @er1cmaurer 3 года назад +6

      Deftones is “by far” my favorite band and Steph is a great writer and rhythm player, but he’s not underrated as a guitar player. Even Steph thinks his playing skills are trash. 😂

  • @JayBruceWorld
    @JayBruceWorld 6 лет назад +302

    I feel like they both smoked before the interview but the interviewer isn’t a regular smoker and is mainly focused on not dying during this interview.

    • @tcelectronic
      @tcelectronic  6 лет назад +47

      😂

    • @HuwKearney
      @HuwKearney 4 года назад +14

      thought the exact same thing, the end of the clip is a dead giveaway!

    • @EmptyDomoKanti99
      @EmptyDomoKanti99 4 года назад +7

      wouldn’t be surprised

    • @Antiocdespair
      @Antiocdespair 3 года назад +3

      Haha. Yessum. Spot on.

    • @spacealienjesus709
      @spacealienjesus709 3 года назад +2

      Lmao
      That would be me..
      Thinking " oh shit ...panic attack in 3, 2, 1 "

  • @ronnieo.6647
    @ronnieo.6647 7 лет назад +127

    Love Stephen Carpenter! It's like he's one of your life long homies. He just keeps it real.

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 3 года назад +5

      Keeps it real? He believes the earth is flat

    • @user-ou2bv5no9e
      @user-ou2bv5no9e 2 года назад +1

      @@stevec6427 ahaahahhahaha

    • @oh033
      @oh033 Год назад +2

      @@stevec6427 Even though it’s objectively wrong, it takes a lot of bravery to say something that misguided haha

  • @callitwhatyoumay
    @callitwhatyoumay 4 года назад +27

    *Why Stephen's one of the greatest*
    His humility: "everything I love is beyond my abilities..." In that comment he says, "I'm just me" and I love him for that

  • @DannyGrc
    @DannyGrc 7 лет назад +78

    love how Stephen keeps it real

  • @rowens123
    @rowens123 7 лет назад +81

    fucking love Stephen......you are a legend

  • @red19dh
    @red19dh 4 года назад +21

    He's not the most complex player but his style is very unique and that's what makes him a great player.

  • @Metathronos
    @Metathronos 5 лет назад +55

    Steph always putting his playing down, he should know it is very expressive and it connects with so many people precisely because of that. Probably not what he wishes he could be doing but it touches the hearts of more people than cold virtuosity

    • @Jayrome321
      @Jayrome321 3 года назад +1

      I love his style of playing

    • @gloriouscontent3538
      @gloriouscontent3538 2 года назад

      I like his mindset. It seems like he never stopped being that kid playing in a garage.

    • @bmoneyrancidfan91
      @bmoneyrancidfan91 2 года назад +1

      I always felt Stephen is very modest yet isn't that into the music he makes .

  • @borat1902
    @borat1902 7 лет назад +18

    stephen is very humble. he has a simple (yet amazing) style and he knows it. never lets anyone gas him up.

  • @XtremeKillah101
    @XtremeKillah101 5 лет назад +21

    1:38 that laugh followed by dead silence looked so awkward for some reason

  • @piricsiremus2405
    @piricsiremus2405 7 лет назад +259

    does this guy ever age? He s been looking the same for 20 years and he s a heavy smoker.

    • @tcelectronic
      @tcelectronic  7 лет назад +36

      Very true! He must have good genes :-)

    • @borat1902
      @borat1902 7 лет назад +52

      cuz he heavily smokes pot

    • @ratmachine87
      @ratmachine87 7 лет назад

      piricsi remus I'm about to say that too bro. haha

    • @dax8407
      @dax8407 7 лет назад +8

      piricsi remus it's the weed man

    • @reakwondachef6828
      @reakwondachef6828 6 лет назад +2

      piricsi remus its all the weed he smokes man

  • @Davephatbuds
    @Davephatbuds 7 лет назад +41

    When everyone was playing 7-string, he was still playing 6-string. White Pony was recorded with 6-string. Amazing!!

    • @Jrock-dx6cd
      @Jrock-dx6cd 5 лет назад +10

      Davephatbuds he got his first 7 string during the recording of White Pony and he only used it for a part on one song. I believe he said it was RX Queen in another interview if Im not mistaken.

    • @RlotttHD
      @RlotttHD 5 лет назад +3

      Everyone using 7 in 2000? Really? Meshuggah, Korn, Steve vai. They are all?

    • @Owlun
      @Owlun 4 года назад +4

      @@RlotttHD Agreed. I don't feel like many bands were using them at all until metal really went hard on 7s, which was 2004-2006.

    • @mck7646
      @mck7646 4 года назад +1

      No, Steph was playing 7 strings before many others were.

    • @Owlun
      @Owlun 4 года назад +3

      @@mck7646 The first album Steph used a 7 string on was Deftones self titled, which came out in 2003. So yeah, before a lot, but several guitarists / bands had used them for several years before he did.
      Seven string guitars have been around for centuries, but I don't think they really took off (in modern rock / metal) until Ibanez and Steve Vai put out the UV7 (I think that was the first). I would also give KoRn credit for making the 7 string popular, as they've been using them since their first album (1994).
      I also feel Dimebag deserves a bit of credit in this department. Although he never used an actual 7 string, he was also one that showed the power of tuning low on 'The Underground in America' and 'Sandblasted Skin'. Many will lead you to believe he's in G, but it's actually closer to F#. He did this on their 1996 album 'The Great Southern Trendkill'.
      At the end of the day it's not always about who did it first, but who did it well enough to connect and resonate with an audience.
      TL;DR

  • @NA-or2re
    @NA-or2re 6 лет назад +156

    Dear Stephen, please write the next deftones album.

    • @dax8407
      @dax8407 5 лет назад +16

      Chino would never allow that Haha

    • @christopherdeftones2878
      @christopherdeftones2878 5 лет назад +18

      Lol your probably right, but hell nah G.
      Stephen mos def needs to get involved, last thing deftones needs is an another blan ass gore album.
      Sorry, but as a deftones head since 97, the gore album was the least deftones of all deftones albums.

    • @ADT2695
      @ADT2695 5 лет назад +14

      +Christopher Deftones. It was _the most_ ‘Deftones’-esque album, numb nuts. They are notorious for being an ever-evolving, yet enigmatic band. You should also know that what they combine genre-wise is really just an amalgam. Especially Chino Moreno, who quite possibly has the most eclectic musical interests. How have you failed to notice this ever since the early-2000’s, “‘Deftones’ ‘97 head”?

    • @christopherdeftones2878
      @christopherdeftones2878 5 лет назад +6

      @@ADT2695 ......... Seriously?
      Listen kid. This is all opinion, however.
      I'm well aware of Chino Moreno's musical endeavors inside and outside deftones and likewise to the rest of the homies in the band from personal experience back when Chi was around, even before one of my older bands and I had the honour in opening up for them a few times.
      "Ever evolving, yet enigmatic band" Yup, it was at that moment I knew I was being ranted by an Einstein... In that respect, yeah, no shit right, thats deftones and the members individualy for that matter, painfully naive of you to mention....
      Not so surprised on your judgement though, after all you uploaded a bullet for my valentine video on your account dawg.... That second hand embarrassment, you did that to yourself vato 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      " Gore. most 'deftones'-esque album".......... dawg..... That's not even a funny insult to the deftones or to Chino's capabilities. And that is FACT.
      Get familiar with team sleep, like linus, eros demos; buffalo, Saturday night wrist demos as well as their hidden material/discography since 88 up until now.
      You know, kind of like what glassjaw did. If, you know what I mean...
      But hey, at least you have a passion for deftones, and that's all that really matters.
      I think you might be able to understand all this.

    • @ADT2695
      @ADT2695 5 лет назад +2

      +Christopher Deftones,
      Understand that just because you’ve experienced something personally with them and that you have anecdotal information, does not at all mean that you’ve refuted anything that I said. E.g. the fact that I uploaded (re-uploaded) a video in 2008 (from 2006 or ‘07) when in middle school, regarding ‘Bullet for My Valentine’. Or, that fact that you pointlessly examined my ‘RUclips’ channel to produce defaming words, like calling me “kid”. You’d have to know that none of it matters. Come on...
      Carrying on past that preface, my range of musical tastes is something that expands far beyond just ‘Deftones’; bands that spectrally begin with very dissonant and experimental groups like ‘Swans’, ‘Neurosis’, ‘Botch’ et al. to more world-popular music groups ‘Depeche Mode’, ‘Alice in Chains’, ‘Chevelle’ et al. The commonalities are that - most of - these bands can be appreciated for some facet of their work. If you’re truly, closely listening, it’s composition and instrumentation. Even though I don’t play any instruments, the way in which I listen to music is in the same tense as an instrumentalist and/or songwriter themselves. Yes, I know of ‘Eros’, the album, and listen to 2 of his 3 bands, ‘Crosses’ and ‘Palms’. And yes, I have no issue with the admission of liking ‘Bullet for My Valentine’ for specific reasons, past or present.
      ‘Deftones’ were actually the impetus for venturing towards many of the critically-lauded, obscure groups. So, kind of, with that being said their musical path taken has been completely germane and corresponds with what Chino Moreno’s musical taste’s, as well as Stephen Carpenter’s, - and most likely - Sergio Vega’s (I listened to ‘Quicksand’ before even knowing that he was the permanent replacement for Chi Cheng). This creates the amalgam I was talking about in my previous response. ‘Gore’ is very thematically similar and very processed with samples and modulation just like ‘Saturday Night Wrist’, but a lot more cohesive.

  • @stevenpostans5444
    @stevenpostans5444 5 лет назад +21

    'I was young and dumb so...........uh hu hu....thats the way that goes...'
    Steph is so baked here 😂😂😂😊

  • @mgonzalez8880
    @mgonzalez8880 5 лет назад +12

    He has that Northern California vibe to him, really shows with this interviewer if you know what im talking about hahah.
    Best thing to ever come out of the city of Sacramento, DEFTONES

  • @whatistau
    @whatistau Год назад +1

    Steph's so chill. I like his live playing style, no gimmicks, just unbothered shredding

  • @sammy61187
    @sammy61187 6 лет назад +2

    Such an awesome guy sooo chill that colour of the ESP is amazing

  • @jessejustsick
    @jessejustsick 4 года назад +2

    Love the honesty from Steph. He knows the limits to his skills and operates it within those limits. I've always admired how he can do a lot with a little. Much respect.

  • @TheArtArq
    @TheArtArq 6 лет назад +5

    thats funny because i met Stephen outside of a house of blues, in an AAL concert. he was there smoking alone.

  • @Raksasa187
    @Raksasa187 7 лет назад +7

    Stephen is still the same homie, gotta love him!

  • @wilkesysublime
    @wilkesysublime 3 года назад +3

    Steph is the man, great riffs and great live

  • @austincote3376
    @austincote3376 3 года назад

    Great guitar player with an awesome sound. Makes you really appreciate how cool and humble he is!!

  • @WavesWatcher1
    @WavesWatcher1 7 лет назад +2

    awesome thanks TC 👍

  • @thomaspearson1845
    @thomaspearson1845 7 лет назад +43

    I hope the guys give Steph more freedom with the next record to play what he wants. I hear Gore was mostly Chino & Sergio's baby.

    • @jonpresley1163
      @jonpresley1163 6 лет назад +16

      I know this is an old comment but I would love something like Diamond Eyes again. It's just like a catalogue of some of his best riffs lol

    • @phamawa
      @phamawa 6 лет назад +7

      Thomas Pearson i dug Gore. But hell yeah, I just got on a deftones kick again and i forgot how much i loved his playing alongside Abe's drums. They should let him loose for sure

    • @odralebazerimar9084
      @odralebazerimar9084 6 лет назад +10

      I want Steph to write more music like Korea, Dai the Flu and WGTB. Just pure dank riffs.

    • @phamawa
      @phamawa 6 лет назад +4

      Odraleba Zerimar I wish Korea got more play live.

    • @fuckshit3919
      @fuckshit3919 6 лет назад +2

      we'd have another adrenaline record, he likes what he plays now but you can tell he's bored and he enjoys 96-97 better

  • @pavlic-enemy
    @pavlic-enemy 7 лет назад +81

    that minion tattoo though

  • @chrisj3318
    @chrisj3318 Год назад

    definitely one of my favorites , i love everything he plays

  • @canubeleiveit
    @canubeleiveit 2 года назад

    May 7th in Nashville, got the tickets yesterday!👈✌

  • @FreaRobinson
    @FreaRobinson 6 лет назад +1

    aaayyyyyeeeee!!!!🙌 You keep me motivated 💪 Yourvideos are amazing 🙌

  • @xradical89x
    @xradical89x 6 лет назад +8

    I hope that little melody he's playing at the beginning makes it to their new record. It sounds freaking surreal.

  • @amalthomas8687
    @amalthomas8687 3 года назад

    i'm a big fan.. your work is so nice and different .. Thankyou

  • @kenrdz3992
    @kenrdz3992 5 лет назад +4

    That opening riff

  • @ibanezrg320fm
    @ibanezrg320fm 6 лет назад +2

    That guitar tho. Love that color and his Ruby red one.

  • @RobertaRSantos
    @RobertaRSantos 5 лет назад +5

    I have a huge crush on Stephen.

  • @DroneCorpse
    @DroneCorpse 7 лет назад +1

    Great video! BTW TC production team might want to look at the weird de-noising artifacts on the voices (especially Tore's). Sounds like musical noise.

  • @herniagaming
    @herniagaming 11 месяцев назад

    My favourite guitarist, not because of technical talent, but because he played some of the most memorable riffs and has his own style

  • @Bluemountains801
    @Bluemountains801 5 лет назад +23

    They be smokin, you can hear a lighter go off at 4:42 lol

    • @ErrolCe
      @ErrolCe 4 года назад

      And at 2:00

  • @robertonome2448
    @robertonome2448 5 лет назад +3

    Amazing guitar player

  • @123shawnt
    @123shawnt 7 лет назад +14

    Definitely going to try this! Stephen throws down! I want that guitar, green glitter 8 string!?!?

    • @Colin.W
      @Colin.W 7 лет назад +4

      I'd go for his purple. I'm not much for pink but damn, his pink one is nice to!

    • @asleepon
      @asleepon 6 лет назад +1

      Shawn Thayil I really need to challenge myself and buy an 8 string

  • @6eric6little62
    @6eric6little62 5 лет назад

    Dude that’s a badass guitar is there a way I can get that exact same guitar I been wanting an 8 string version ?

  • @jeremys6875
    @jeremys6875 7 лет назад +3

    He's amazing :D

  • @DaveThomson
    @DaveThomson 6 лет назад +5

    I have his original signature ESP SRC in see thru green

    • @DrJr-bn7si
      @DrJr-bn7si 6 лет назад +1

      Dave Thomson how did you get that piece of awesomeness?

  • @IceKoldKilla
    @IceKoldKilla 6 лет назад +2

    Tosin and Javier! Hell yeah!

  • @metalernest1
    @metalernest1 7 лет назад +7

    my favorite band 😎💖

  • @anditos.88
    @anditos.88 7 лет назад +2

    Idol

  • @journeyman6802
    @journeyman6802 3 года назад

    Such a cool, humble guy

  • @sanguisugadaddy
    @sanguisugadaddy 6 лет назад +1

    Was that intro just a chord jam? Sounded sweet and smooth.

  • @Reprodestruxion
    @Reprodestruxion 7 лет назад +5

    Would love to see them work with Robin Guthrie, killing joke and
    Trey Gunn.

  • @wonka4
    @wonka4 4 года назад

    Please please share the band list he gave you with us !!

  • @ryanrooprai5104
    @ryanrooprai5104 6 лет назад +3

    3:54 my favourite part.

  • @MUZIQBUF
    @MUZIQBUF 5 лет назад +1

    Favorite band is deftones but a nice shout out to Tosin n Javier from Animals As Leaders!

  • @tingkagol
    @tingkagol 3 года назад

    Nice to hear he's trading tips with Tosin and Javier.

  • @ralpherl5657
    @ralpherl5657 7 лет назад +73

    His teeth are so white, damn

    • @wes1hoskins
      @wes1hoskins 5 лет назад +3

      He uses a water pick

    • @JedTaneo
      @JedTaneo 4 года назад +1

      Regular dentist visit

    • @austin4669
      @austin4669 3 года назад +3

      Probably fake teeth

    • @deadroses19
      @deadroses19 3 года назад +1

      they seem fake asf

  • @Beyond-Antares
    @Beyond-Antares 2 года назад

    6:50 is the highlight! Hilarious how tuned to E based on Tosin and Javier

  • @platipuce8193
    @platipuce8193 7 лет назад +4

    Wtf, Steph doesn't look like he has smoke a 10 feet long joint before the vid ahaha love that guy

  • @carterheekin1974
    @carterheekin1974 5 лет назад +2

    Steph likes AAL! When your favorite artists are friends😁.

  • @whatsabryan
    @whatsabryan 6 лет назад +4

    That tele looks like its the same color as the mxr carbon copy. Rad.

  • @numunukiid138
    @numunukiid138 2 года назад

    Love steph

  • @johnkyro5691
    @johnkyro5691 7 лет назад +5

    What's the song he 's playing in the beginning?

    • @xeonzero1
      @xeonzero1 7 лет назад +1

      John Kyro I'd like to know too!

  • @user-co4xl7wx3q
    @user-co4xl7wx3q 5 лет назад

    That is the most rad ESP I've ever seen

  • @luv2eatpuss79
    @luv2eatpuss79 Год назад

    what a nice guy

  • @robertcoylestein1292
    @robertcoylestein1292 5 лет назад +3

    Dude tattooed a minion on his arm.
    *A fucking minion!* 😂😂😂

  • @gorejessuicide78
    @gorejessuicide78 Год назад

    EPIC

  • @matturner6890
    @matturner6890 6 лет назад +3

    *Really* wanna try a humbucker in the middle position now.

    • @alijankhan3330
      @alijankhan3330 3 года назад

      He doesn't even use it, he's been quoted as saying it's just for the aesthetic

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 3 года назад

      @@alijankhan3330 well that's annoyingly pointless, and doesn't even look that good anyway. Just clutters up the design.
      I do wanna know what it sounds like though.

  • @BrandonDeft
    @BrandonDeft 3 года назад

    Step. The Master of Heavy Melodic Epic Rifffs

  • @kmatthe4
    @kmatthe4 3 года назад

    He kinda sounds like Mitch Headberg......love it!

  • @mihaicretan1848
    @mihaicretan1848 6 лет назад +1

    anyone knows what is the tuning for drop e ?

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 6 лет назад +3

      Mihai Cretan EBEADGBE

    • @user-co4xl7wx3q
      @user-co4xl7wx3q 5 лет назад +1

      @@Creature1009 thanks man

    • @Creature1009
      @Creature1009 5 лет назад +1

      フィリップ haha that took a while

    • @user-co4xl7wx3q
      @user-co4xl7wx3q 5 лет назад

      Indeed - I just saw this interview and was going to ask that question, and then Lo, I saw yr response to Mihai. 8 strings ... man, I think I'm gonna go for it. Why not, right?

  • @manueltorres5028
    @manueltorres5028 6 лет назад +5

    Thats a big guitar

  • @Confidential619
    @Confidential619 3 года назад

    I want that guitar so bad.

  • @tycriswell7457
    @tycriswell7457 5 лет назад +1

    That cat rite there is the reason my WHOLE musical outlooked changed i was a one man acoustic tailgate country singer until i was riding to work with my cuzzin and i heard deftones adrenaline and my eyes were open n now I'm a avid 7 STRING metal player n own every Deftones albumn. FN love it

  • @jeremysylvia3237
    @jeremysylvia3237 6 лет назад

    SC is as DTE as they come but the dude conducting this interview should be getting carts at Costco!

  • @adityapathak4895
    @adityapathak4895 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Steph can you teach me how to be a swagger enough to play 8 string guitar but to never play solos at all?

  • @xeonzero1
    @xeonzero1 7 лет назад

    what's the song in the beginning??

    • @tcelectronic
      @tcelectronic  7 лет назад +3

      Not entirely sure. Maybe just a new riff Stephen was jamming!? :-/

  • @XtremeKillah101
    @XtremeKillah101 4 года назад +1

    Steven made some tasty riffs

  • @emandafoe1237
    @emandafoe1237 3 года назад +1

    Puro Los Angeles

  • @luzgallegos6779
    @luzgallegos6779 6 лет назад +4

    Is that a miniom in his right arm? 😱

  • @becksy9999
    @becksy9999 3 года назад

    genius...

  • @danyele8526
    @danyele8526 3 года назад

    Most appreciable 4 weedz likings

  • @sirchess1807
    @sirchess1807 Год назад

    StefTones

  • @ewoknips5154
    @ewoknips5154 2 года назад

    Is that an 8 string guitar? I knew he played a 7 but have never noyiced if its an 8 string

  • @brendanhayward7577
    @brendanhayward7577 4 года назад

    Have a jam bro

  • @BronzDano
    @BronzDano 3 года назад

    Likable guy

  • @kenderick100
    @kenderick100 6 лет назад +1

    8 strings Stephen keeps going but i think he will stop there unless he fills to challenge himself to for the 9th

  • @arisebc3745
    @arisebc3745 6 лет назад +11

    As a Deftones fan, I love their post-metal shoegaze shit, but it would be so awesome if Chino let Steph go full blown Metal a-la *HEXAGRAM* , just ☝️ more Around the Fur 2.0. Like if u agree brotha....

  • @Dextro0451
    @Dextro0451 6 лет назад

    he's had his teeth done!

  • @reezlaw
    @reezlaw 3 года назад +1

    I found that 9 is the sweet spot. 10-string guitars exist but they don't sound right, no matter what. The 9th string's tone, when done right and at the right scale is just perfection.

  • @cashprinter5000
    @cashprinter5000 4 года назад

    Man got into meshuggah in the late 90s......interesting

  • @MsAdultchildren
    @MsAdultchildren 6 лет назад +3

    steev-un?
    stef-un?

  • @alextaramona3745
    @alextaramona3745 3 года назад

    I chose this guitar genius over this super hot chick thumbnail. This better be GOODDD!!!

  • @vishk123
    @vishk123 3 года назад

    Really cool.....😬
    Proper awkward end hahaha

  • @thegatorgar6730
    @thegatorgar6730 4 года назад

    Stephen really *shouldn’t* remind me of my dad in any way, but he *does* for some reason. Anyway. Thought y’all might wanna know that. Welp. See ya later! 👋🏻

  • @legniak1
    @legniak1 7 лет назад +102

    Cool guy without guitar players ego. Who the hell is interviewing him? so uncomfortable to watch.

    • @sophiem24
      @sophiem24 3 года назад +2

      I think more than uncomfortable, his behavior is awkward haha

  • @iamsittingaroom
    @iamsittingaroom Год назад

    I thought it said guitárist and I was jealous

  • @Antiocdespair
    @Antiocdespair 3 года назад +1

    Stoneddddddd

  • @133Nomad
    @133Nomad 7 лет назад +1

    He's so baked, you can hear it.

  • @PuNkIsNoTdEaD01
    @PuNkIsNoTdEaD01 7 лет назад +2

    yes they are both stoned ..... :V

  • @gonewiththewind8072
    @gonewiththewind8072 6 лет назад +2

    Yep, Steph is high again...

  • @rorylee9626
    @rorylee9626 4 года назад +1

    why does he have a minion tattoo hahahaha

  • @MacncheeseChris
    @MacncheeseChris 7 лет назад +3

    r those his real teeth?

  • @dax8407
    @dax8407 7 лет назад +2

    love Steph man but the guy wasn't digging the interview at all haha wtf