I do. 🙋♀️🙋♀️🙋♀️ I love that I can take it with me anywhere I go. It fits perfect on my book bag when I’m on the way to do shoots and want to edit at least one to post it. And I also do a lot of behind the scenes videos for Instagram. Love that I can edit right away on my iPad.
On my desktop, I manage photos with a lightroom catalog per event, per year. Each event has an ingest, output and catalog photos. I use the os to organize. On a laptop, I can replicate the same system, exchanging only the catalog. How do I do the same on an iPad? Is there a catalog file that I can transfer from iPad to desktop? What’s the point of being so fast on the iPad if it disrupts a reliable system that I’ve used for 15 years? The iPad is only good for my Fuji’s ooc jpgs that need a basic tweak and boardering and posting to Instagram. Then I copy the edited jpgs to my main rig as ooc jpg. There is no workflow on the iPad, it’s a stand alone system that has not been thought out. Any “iPad photo workflow” tips or video are glib. There is no long term strategy with iPad photo editing. In fact, starting a “workflow” on an iPad is dangerous as a noobie because it teaches nothing about organizing, backing up, cataloging via the os and metadata. It’s just buzzwords like “cloud” and images of people with an iPad in a remote area editing photos.... but again it’s a dead end. It starts and ends on an iPad. You can’t even cull on an iPad and then tag for later select import on a laptop. Useless! I still recommend: 1) create an event based cataloging of your photos based on each year on your desktop. 2) develop a back up system that preferably has TWO back up solutions. 3) use small laptops like the new Apple silicon to create a remote workstation that mirrors your desktop system to work remotely. Don’t forget about backing that up to a portable ssd! 4) use iPads for jpg imports only where you do basic touch ups (often just in the photo app) to post in social media to promote you and/or your clients. Save to an album organization label the same as your desktop events. When you get home, airdrop them to your desktop workstation as an out of camera jpgs that you edited for social media on the go. iPad serves as an instant social media editing platform for your photos. It exists as an adjunct to your workflow. In this case the social media end. The work you do on it will be saved to your main desktop as social media jpgs. That’s it. That’s all the iPad is useful for in photo editing unless you plan to live in a volatile environment like the ipad: not a real file system, no reliable back up, no flexibility in organization, app based proprietary app storage 🤮. Nothing there is conducive to the needs of a working professional to match their workflow. You are CHANGING your workflow to work with iPad. Period. In conclusion: develop a solid system on a desktop or laptop that works with the os as much as possible (dir structure) to avoid a proprietary obsolescence. Make it robust with 2 backups. This can work with both windows and Mac. Once that is solid, see how an iPad can COMPLIMENT YOUR workflow. DO NOT change your workflow to be able to use a new iPad toy like the stylus. Do not fall for cloud storage bullshit, because it’s bullshit. Where before I needed only to duplicate my photo files from my desktop to laptop, now I need to “sync” thru a proprietary scheme like Adobe and use a program that is just different enough from lightroom classic to gut my workflow, I.e. event based catalogs. It’s not worth it. Don’t start your photo journey with this in-flexible, yet seductive, “workflow” using an iPad and adobe cloud. It’s bullshit. Instead, use it as a social media bridge to your already solid desktop workflow. Hard drives are cheap, cloud are flakey and a security risk. The last thing you want is your boudoir photography business compromised when your clients photos are grabbed from a cloud security leak and your neck is on the line for their privacy. Great honest video you posted. But 🖕to Adobe cloud and 🖕to iPad “workflows”. They are a huge distraction to young photographers and have failed to deliver meaningful solutions to the working photographer. Thanks for reading.
@TheVFXbyArt You have some valid points but your comment makes me think that you didn't actually watch the video through. I'm not sure why you are so angry 😂 The ipad and lightroom for the ipad are just tools. If they don't work for you, then don't use them. I have found a way that It works for me and it actually enhances my workflow rather than it being a compromise so I thought I'd share that with anyone else who was thinking of using the iPad in the same way. The iPad is a hundred times more convenient to use when on the road and traveling and a hundred time more fun too. All you need to do is turn on sync on your desktop and the photos transfer to your active catalog and you can go your merry way with backing up and storing them correctly. Like I say in the video, the iPad for me is a culling and quick edit tool. Don't know about you but I always hated importing photos to Lightroom on the desktop and had to leave it to build previews and add my preset and convert to DNGs etc just so I could then go one by one slowly to reject the pics I didn't like. This process is so much faster on the iPad. Anyway this workflow isn't for everyone, I get it, but whether you like it or not, it's the way adobe is going and soon Lightroom Classic will be obsolete so might as well get comfortable with the bullshit cloud as you call it 😆👌
I already did import some JPGs from my Fuji and gave them a tweak in Snapseed for Instagram. I plan to do more (want to travel light yet edit on a daily basis), but am not happy about loosing my workflow of tagging while importing to dedicated folders. I think I want to keep this for archiving and editing at home. Having said that, your video gave me some very good input on what to try next. Maybe I’l find “my solution” some day. 🤩 Thank you. 🙏
Useful video thanks - I’ve seen no evidence at all that Adobe intend to abandon Lightroom Classic. It’s the workhorse for an enormous group of professionals, including myself, and they would be committing financial suicide if they ditched it.
Hey man, thanks to your video i am really doubt to buy a ipad pro. I am not sure how many GB i need, also wondeirng to wait untill to march to get the new version? I am a hobby photographer with a expensive taste (Sony A7III). I am a bit confused about the workflow between lightroom CC en classic. You import your files to CC and how you made a sync with classic? After you got everything in classic you export them as a DNG file and put it on your ssd? If you do want to make some changes you need to upload the DNG back to lightroom CC? Did you ever used photoshop on the ipad? I hope 1 day we can skip the macbook/laptop and go full edit on the ipad pro with an SSD, you think this wil be in the near future? I read something about that the ipad pro has to little RAM GB (6 GB), and this is to less to do some multi tasks in lightroom en photoshop... Can u confirm this? Thx from the Netherlands! @Meletispix
Hey man thanks for watching! So I’d definitely suggest a minimum 512gb storage of you are going for the pro. At this point yeah probably wait a couple months for the next version. So when you have a CC subscription, the photos you put in Lightroom CC automatically sync with the Adobe cloud. This doesn’t happen automatically when you import to a Classic Library, there you have to drag your photos into the All Synced section. In any case if you import to CC and they sync to a classic library, the original Raw files are what get synced and downloaded to a pre-determined folder that you can choose from the settings. So you have the original files and the edits you’ve made synced. Hope that makes sense. You don’t need to export anything if you don’t want to. Then you just backup the entire catalog and if you want to make edits in the future you can just connect the hard drive that has that catalog in it and open it to make changes. I’ve not used photoshop much on the iPad but yeah it’s nowhere near as feature complete as the desktop version is. However both lightroom and photoshop run great on my 2018 iPad Pro. So I wouldn’t worry about ram. Hope this helps! 🙌🏼
Thank you for sharing, I began to travel with my iPad and load up raw files to Adobe Cloud when I reached home, I wished to move the raw file to the external SSD to free up the limited Adobe Cloud storage, and yet still have a smart preview on Ipad and iPhone, how should I do it?
Hey Victor, thanks for watching, I’m not quite sure that’s possible I’m sorry to say. Once you remove the originals from the cloud, everything goes with them. It’s the reason I only keep the photos I’m currently editing on CC cloud and then remove them once done and export JPEGs on my iCloud to have as high res final versions. If you do however figure out a way, let me know 🙏🏼
I use my iPad Pro to import into Lightroom for iPad and do my edits. I use Lightroom Classic on my MacBook Pro for storage/backup, and Photoshop for more complex edits. I do not use Lightroom CC at all. It has no use for me. I just got notified that my 1TB CC plan is going up to $20 a month, I'm seriously considering finding an alternative, but I can already tell its gonna be a difficult move and I'll have to make some sacrifices. Man I wish Apple brought back Aperture now that they have iCloud.
Yeah I was a hardcore aperture user in the past and really loved it. Doubt they would go backwards though, best we can hope for is making Photos more pro-friendly. I haven’t gotten a notification about the CC plan going up yet, hope I never do 😂😂
12:08 I used to own that Samyang 14mm lens. Even with the corrections that lens was garbage. At least on the R5. Try to shoot a interior with it and look how it warps walls. So frustrating.
I moved from an older desktop version to iPad as my only editing platform & got the shock of my life for how Adobe is under utilizing this beast. Anyways as for today tbe only thing been changed is you can send your pics forth and back between lightroom & photoshop. One more point to add is you can't use brush in lightroom for selected editing such as dodging & burning, it's global.
Are you able to access masks etc on the iPad with the CC version? I was told by Adobe that on my older Mac that is 4 gigs that I was using the web version that does not have masks? Does that sound correct to you?
I was hoping for a simpler workflow, you talk about exporting jpegs to Photos, is that the Apple Photo cloud library?, also, what apple desktop/laptop are you using,? editing pics in your desktop/lap top seem to be too slow, I have the M1 MBP and Studio (Max) and there is no lag or waiting period, and I am talking about huge RAW files from my Sony A7RIV, my question is, how fast is really the process of importing the pics to the iPAD, compared with your desktop?...I m looking for an alternative for light traveling (my MPB 16" is great but heavy), have you evaluated the Macbook Air and compared with the iPAD Pro ?
Once you’ve imported your photos onto iPad lightroom they upload to the Adobe cloud. Then do they get replaced on the iPad with smart previews? If you import 10gb of images is that going to take up 10gb of your iPad storage?
Hey Jake! So there’s no easy way of doing this because once you delete the photos from the iPad, they go from the cloud too and unless you’ve switched on your pc to sync the raws, you lose them. I guess this is to prevent you from losing the raws but I’m not sure why they don’t just stick around in the cloud, it’s a bit weird and there might be a way to do this but I don’t know it. If I want to do what you are asking, first make sure the raws have synced to my computer, then delete the photos from the iPad, and then re-sync them from the computer. This way they come back to the iPad as smart previews. However be aware that doing this will prevent you from being able to edit the photos unless you are connected to the internet which kinda sucks. So what I do when I’m low on space is keep all my raws in an external hard drive and edit them in chunks, make sure they sync up and download on my Mac, and delete from the iPad. Hope this answers your question 🙌🏼😊
@@meletispix Thanks. It seems odd that it doesn’t have some kind of toggle in each album to offload to the cloud. A bit like how Dropbox has a keep on device or move to cloud toggle.
@@meletispix I mean also when I have imported into Lightroom on the iPad and the images have synced I have no need for the original files on my iPad anymore. I should just replace them with smart previews. I assume it’s actually doing this, but I can’t find anywhere any documentation/confirmation.
@@JakeCoventry I don't have an iPad yet (this video makes me want one!) but supposedly the iPad storage is handled "intelligently." It'll remove originals that are synced and it determines are not needed locally (e.g., not edited after some period of time). Original on iPad is replaced with a smart preview, and original can be downloaded again if needed. Can someone confirm this? Either way, I think @meletispix has the right idea of moving all the originals via LR Classic to another hard drive and cloud backup rather than paying for even more Adobe cloud space.
I reckon you don't know about cloud sync feature of lightroom classic. You can pick which library to upload to cloud by doing so, you get all the cloud features, and you know where your files are. Once you open lrcc, it sync the edits and you can progress from that.
The video, while having plenty of info, is a little misleading. The iPad limitations you speak of are two-fold - limitations by the iPad itself whether hardware or OS, and limitations of Lightroom (CC). You do make mention that the video is comparing the iPad + Lightroom CC vs a computer + Lightroom Classic but that's exactly my point.
@@meletispix the thing is Lightroom CC works on iPad and Mac/Windows/Android. So differentiating Lightroom CC from Lightroom Classic is one, and can actually be done on the same hardware you're using, while an iPad vs Mac/PC workflow is another.
@Alvin Yeah that't fair enough, this video was from the perspective of someone who used a mac with Lightroom Classic, switching to the iPad where your only choice is CC. To be honest I don't personally know anyone who uses CC on a computer over Classic yet. When their features are the same I'm sure many will move to CC but there are still a lot of useful things missing. 😊👍
@@meletispix I used to be on Lightroom, but when Adobe started the subscription model I shifted to purely CC. To be honest I do also have Luminar and might get Capture One at some point. LR is on my desktop PC, MacBook, Android, and me planning to buy an iPad led me here. :)
One of your last workflow steps is to transfer from your Lightroom CC Files location on the iPad Pro to the hard drive on your desktop. I'm used to creating Collections in Lightroom Classic from my desktop storage locations. Can you confirm that all of the edits made on your iPad Pro with Lightroom CC are present on the files transferred from the Files Folder from the iPad Pro?
Hey Creg! Yeah all edits get passed on to the Raw files that sync over the cloud to your PC and stay with them through whatever you do to them in Classic. If they are still synced then the changes you so in Classic will also transfer to the iPad. Make sure you move the photos and make all the collections within the Lightroom Classic app though as I’m not sure it would like it if you start moving files from the explorer. Hope this answers your question! 😊👍🏼
Hi there i see you reply to the comments section/ when you refered to downloading on lightroom with the preview mode and cannot zoom in then how do you export them from raw on ipad if they arent full res?
Hey Shroominion, when you go to export, if you are connected to the web, lightroom will download the original version from the cloud to export a high res image. Make sure you set the export setting to best for this to happen and be online. Let me know if this doesn't work for some reason. 👍😊
@@meletispix Hey ! Thanks for the rapid reply ! This answers alot i had in mind. ALSO i am confused as i have purchased LR mobile on ipad JUST so i can edit raw. . But i am having problems syncing and choosing to use LR classic or classic CC? I am sure you get where i am coming from. Also maybe a all in 1 video on how you setup or what the best cloud package to buy is because i got the cheapest one and i assumed i would have the desktop app and photoshop included. Any hints ? Cheers !!
I sure hope so! I would imagine yes because I think they want to eventually kill the Classic version and more to the CC. Not sure how soon it’ll happen though...
Lens correction is on Lightroom mobile. You probably just missed it. But I been using it for some months now. Where it says optics. You will see it there and you can enable lens correction ... hope this helps
Nice pro/cons presentation ! 👍🏻 Juste to be sure, but it's possible to use lightroom cc without any use of the sync and cloud thing ?! Lightroom classic user here. But probably going for ipad pro. My workflow as i imagine it, would be import all pictures and make a full save on an external ssd then select and kept only those i'm gonna edit and publish. Finally export that final batch and save it in an under folder on the ssd.
Hey thanks Pierre! Not sure how you could work with and external ssd as when you import photos it doesn’t give you the choice of where to store them and it automatically saves them on the ipad. You can export them after the fact as dng files if you choose to but to edit, they need to be on the device. If things have changed and I’m not aware, I’m happy to stand corrected. All the best!
Would you recommend getting A HP spectra X360 Laptop or the iPad air/ iPad pro in replace of a desktop PC for photography (portrait photography specifically)(lightroom, desktop, etc.) And being the only device used
Hey Ashley, I wouldn't recommend an iPad as the only device just because managing, storing and backing up files would be a bit of a mess. I'd get it only if you have a regular PC or Mac to use as a hub for organizing your photos and then use the iPad for a faster and more fun editing experience. Hope this helps! :)
My question stems from an photo editor's point of view: May one *benefit* from Apple's Mini-LED display for the M1 iPad Pro 12.9' during post-processing (in Photoshop Lightroom)? Or will one only get to witness the "glory" brightness of 1000 nits and beyond *only* when *viewing* HDR content? I've been told that Apple's new XDR projects at around 500/ 600 nits during normal usage. Do you notice any micro-contrast improvements when editing on the 12.9' mini-LED vs the normal 11'? Please advise, and thank you in advance.
Sorry mate but I have the 2018 iPad so my display is older and doesn’t have the features your are asking about… if you find out the answer let me know too please! 😊🙏🏼
Thats a lot of work just to not carry a laptop! I'm sure it's easier once you get used to it. I keep an Ipad air in my bag for quick edits if I want to post something to social, but the process is way to clunky for more than just a hand-full of shots at a time.
I don't even have an ipad. But I can truly appreciate the level detail with which you described your experience. This was a chill and enjoyable information package. God bless you!
That’s really nice of you to say! I’ve been quite unmotivated over this pandemic but I have a few vids in the works. Just need to sit my ass down and finish editing them! Your comment helps push me a bit 😬👌🏼🙌🏼
Once you delete from the iPad (LR CC), don't you lose the catalog of edits? In case you ever need to make other edits? Or do you just return to your original RAW and redo it?
Hey Christine, so yeah if you haven't moved your edited Raws from on a PC or Mac from your All Synced pictures to a new folder in a local hard drive and you just delete straight from the iPad, those edits are gone. If you follow the workflow i laid out though using a the computer to essentially backup your edited Raws, you can always drag that folder back into your All Synced tab and that will bring em back to your ipad if you want to edit them there again via the Cloud. Hope his helps! :)
Not sure how you select keepers/goners .. I go to image then select Rate-Review mode then use pencil to swipe up/down for yes/no flag.. then I filter entire library on No flags and delete them.
Thanks for the review,. Once you're done editing on an ipad for example, can you still need to go back and reedit photos in lightroom CC app? just like you normally would when you open catalog where your edits are stored in lightroom classic?
You’re welcome! As long as your photos are synced up to the cloud or you’ve downloaded the photos to a Lightroom Classic Catalog, you can always continue editing them there or drag them back to your All Synced Photos abs that will get them back to your iPad to edit again. Hope that makes sense cause you don’t have catalogs on the iPad, only on the desktop.
I've had an 11" iPad Pro 2018 and have generally had no problems with overheating (for the most part, unless I've done layered composites in Affinity Photo, but it didn't cause the screen to dim). This week I tried out a 12.9" 2020 and while the extra screen real estate was great, I did notice a tendency for it to get a lot hotter faster, and not only did the screen dim (which I didn't understand why until you mentioned it was tied to overheating), but Lightroom tended to crash repeatedly as I did more and more edits. Ultimately I decided to stay with the 11" as it's a much more convenient size, while the 12.9" tended to feel unwieldy handheld (which is how I would use it most of the time). Has anyone else noticed the 12.9" overheats faster?
I’m afraid I don’t really use Affinity to edit photos, only to stitch Panoramas if I really can’t wait to be on my Mac. I usually do all my editing in Lightroom CC. I’m sure there are plenty of good tutorials though if you search! 😊👍🏼
Great video bro! I just started moving my post work to my iPad Air and this was great to see that I’m not too far off on my logic of this being a better more efficient way to work.
I use the same work flow of you : IPad Pro + Mac mini M1 + benq SW270C monitor but I notice some color difference from Lightroom CC and Lightroom classic in my mac. I try to explain me better: I use the iPad to modify the color, WB etc… but when I open the same picture in the desktop version the color grading are different and with more sature color. In the IPad Pro screen the color are more natural. This create confusion in my work flow because I don’t know how color version is corrected. The monitor is calibrate and the profile that I used is sRGB ( I tried to use the P3 mode also). Nothings is changed. Have you never notice this difference during your works?
Hey Riccardo, my Mac screen is so bad I don’t even pay attention to what the colours look like on it 😂. At the end of the day the colours I see on the iPad are the same I see on my iPhone which is what I use to post to Instagram which is where most people see my images so that’s the only place I care how the colours look. My suggestion to you would be to post an image online and view it from a few different devices abs see what looks best and then edit with that in mind. Keep in mind though too that most people view our images on tiny phone screens. If you are going to print your images then that’s totally different you’d have to run tests from each device and calibrate accordingly. Hope this helps 👍🏼
@@meletispix thank you for your quickly reply. Unfortunately I print my pictures and is very important for me have a perfect color. Is very strange this color difference. Anyway thank you again
@@GiordinoRic hmm yeah that’s quite the problem. Could be one for Adobe or Apple support to be honest. If you find out how to fix it let me know though 😬🙏🏼
Been experiencing that screen dims a lot and quite stressing, which is why I’m preferring the Mac to edit hundreds of photos. Great job on mentioning it! 👍🏻
I don’t have any personal experience with the M1 iPad I’m afraid so can’t answer to that. I’m sure it’s more snappy but dunno if the screen won’t dim if it gets overheated. 🙃
@@auldzbuzz3374 I don’t think so. Eventhough it’s using the M1 chip, all electronic devices will come to that overheated condition sooner or later. Later for sure. Especially when given tasks that used to be for “laptop or pc” only. And given that facts, I change my mind with the iPad Pro then purchased the M1 Pro instead. They’re quite on the same price strangely. The next big question is how the M1 Air handle that situation. Without the fan, theoretically it’s iPad with built in keyboard. While iPad dims its screen when overheated, quite not sure what will M1 Air do. And it sure sounds ridiculous if the M1 Air also dims it’s screen. LOL.
You have to remember the laptops have all their parts and batteries separate from the screen so even if they overheat, there’s no reason to dim the display
Are we talking pc/Mac or iPad? Cause there are a few alternatives for computers. The magic of Lightroom isn’t so much that you can edit but also that you can organise your photos in a library and edit at the same time. The biggest alternative I know of is CaptureOne which offers both subscription or a one time fee.
Great Video with lots of understandable information I didn’t get elsewhere. Thank you. I missed the use of keywords. Don’t you use them? How do you search for certain pictures? Is the LR file structure sufficient for you or do you use the search feature in Apple Fotos app?
Thanks! You can use search and it has AI that identifies objects and faces and locations and yeah you can set keywords manually too. I’ve never personally used it that way. Pick/Reject, Geolocation and star rating has always been enough for me. Hope this helps! 🙌🏼 oh also forgot the second part, when I’ve finished editing my pictures abs they are backed up on my desktop I export the final JPEG’s in my Apple photos library and that’s where I see them most. There I search by date, faces, locations mostly 😎👍🏼👍🏼
Who else edits their photos on the iPad? 🙋🏻♂️
I do. 🙋♀️🙋♀️🙋♀️ I love that I can take it with me anywhere I go. It fits perfect on my book bag when I’m on the way to do shoots and want to edit at least one to post it. And I also do a lot of behind the scenes videos for Instagram. Love that I can edit right away on my iPad.
😎😎👌🏼
On my desktop, I manage photos with a lightroom catalog per event, per year. Each event has an ingest, output and catalog photos. I use the os to organize. On a laptop, I can replicate the same system, exchanging only the catalog.
How do I do the same on an iPad? Is there a catalog file that I can transfer from iPad to desktop? What’s the point of being so fast on the iPad if it disrupts a reliable system that I’ve used for 15 years?
The iPad is only good for my Fuji’s ooc jpgs that need a basic tweak and boardering and posting to Instagram. Then I copy the edited jpgs to my main rig as ooc jpg.
There is no workflow on the iPad, it’s a stand alone system that has not been thought out.
Any “iPad photo workflow” tips or video are glib. There is no long term strategy with iPad photo editing. In fact, starting a “workflow” on an iPad is dangerous as a noobie because it teaches nothing about organizing, backing up, cataloging via the os and metadata. It’s just buzzwords like “cloud” and images of people with an iPad in a remote area editing photos.... but again it’s a dead end. It starts and ends on an iPad.
You can’t even cull on an iPad and then tag for later select import on a laptop. Useless!
I still recommend:
1) create an event based cataloging of your photos based on each year on your desktop.
2) develop a back up system that preferably has TWO back up solutions.
3) use small laptops like the new Apple silicon to create a remote workstation that mirrors your desktop system to work remotely. Don’t forget about backing that up to a portable ssd!
4) use iPads for jpg imports only where you do basic touch ups (often just in the photo app) to post in social media to promote you and/or your clients. Save to an album organization label the same as your desktop events. When you get home, airdrop them to your desktop workstation as an out of camera jpgs that you edited for social media on the go. iPad serves as an instant social media editing platform for your photos. It exists as an adjunct to your workflow. In this case the social media end. The work you do on it will be saved to your main desktop as social media jpgs.
That’s it. That’s all the iPad is useful for in photo editing unless you plan to live in a volatile environment like the ipad: not a real file system, no reliable back up, no flexibility in organization, app based proprietary app storage 🤮. Nothing there is conducive to the needs of a working professional to match their workflow. You are CHANGING your workflow to work with iPad. Period.
In conclusion: develop a solid system on a desktop or laptop that works with the os as much as possible (dir structure) to avoid a proprietary obsolescence. Make it robust with 2 backups. This can work with both windows and Mac. Once that is solid, see how an iPad can COMPLIMENT YOUR workflow. DO NOT change your workflow to be able to use a new iPad toy like the stylus. Do not fall for cloud storage bullshit, because it’s bullshit. Where before I needed only to duplicate my photo files from my desktop to laptop, now I need to “sync” thru a proprietary scheme like Adobe and use a program that is just different enough from lightroom classic to gut my workflow, I.e. event based catalogs.
It’s not worth it. Don’t start your photo journey with this in-flexible, yet seductive, “workflow” using an iPad and adobe cloud. It’s bullshit. Instead, use it as a social media bridge to your already solid desktop workflow. Hard drives are cheap, cloud are flakey and a security risk. The last thing you want is your boudoir photography business compromised when your clients photos are grabbed from a cloud security leak and your neck is on the line for their privacy.
Great honest video you posted. But 🖕to Adobe cloud and 🖕to iPad “workflows”. They are a huge distraction to young photographers and have failed to deliver meaningful solutions to the working photographer.
Thanks for reading.
@TheVFXbyArt You have some valid points but your comment makes me think that you didn't actually watch the video through.
I'm not sure why you are so angry 😂
The ipad and lightroom for the ipad are just tools. If they don't work for you, then don't use them.
I have found a way that It works for me and it actually enhances my workflow rather than it being a compromise so I thought I'd share that with anyone else who was thinking of using the iPad in the same way.
The iPad is a hundred times more convenient to use when on the road and traveling and a hundred time more fun too.
All you need to do is turn on sync on your desktop and the photos transfer to your active catalog and you can go your merry way with backing up and storing them correctly.
Like I say in the video, the iPad for me is a culling and quick edit tool. Don't know about you but I always hated importing photos to Lightroom on the desktop and had to leave it to build previews and add my preset and convert to DNGs etc just so I could then go one by one slowly to reject the pics I didn't like. This process is so much faster on the iPad.
Anyway this workflow isn't for everyone, I get it, but whether you like it or not, it's the way adobe is going and soon Lightroom Classic will be obsolete so might as well get comfortable with the bullshit cloud as you call it 😆👌
I already did import some JPGs from my Fuji and gave them a tweak in Snapseed for Instagram. I plan to do more (want to travel light yet edit on a daily basis), but am not happy about loosing my workflow of tagging while importing to dedicated folders. I think I want to keep this for archiving and editing at home.
Having said that, your video gave me some very good input on what to try next. Maybe I’l find “my solution” some day. 🤩 Thank you. 🙏
Useful video thanks - I’ve seen no evidence at all that Adobe intend to abandon Lightroom Classic. It’s the workhorse for an enormous group of professionals, including myself, and they would be committing financial suicide if they ditched it.
Yeah I hope they keep developing both to be honest! Thanks for watching 😊🙌🏼
Looking forward to seeing your geotagging workflow video
Well I better make it then! 😬🙌🏼😊
Hey man, thanks to your video i am really doubt to buy a ipad pro. I am not sure how many GB i need, also wondeirng to wait untill to march to get the new version? I am a hobby photographer with a expensive taste (Sony A7III). I am a bit confused about the workflow between lightroom CC en classic. You import your files to CC and how you made a sync with classic? After you got everything in classic you export them as a DNG file and put it on your ssd? If you do want to make some changes you need to upload the DNG back to lightroom CC? Did you ever used photoshop on the ipad? I hope 1 day we can skip the macbook/laptop and go full edit on the ipad pro with an SSD, you think this wil be in the near future? I read something about that the ipad pro has to little RAM GB (6 GB), and this is to less to do some multi tasks in lightroom en photoshop... Can u confirm this? Thx from the Netherlands! @Meletispix
Hey man thanks for watching! So I’d definitely suggest a minimum 512gb storage of you are going for the pro. At this point yeah probably wait a couple months for the next version. So when you have a CC subscription, the photos you put in Lightroom CC automatically sync with the Adobe cloud. This doesn’t happen automatically when you import to a Classic Library, there you have to drag your photos into the All Synced section. In any case if you import to CC and they sync to a classic library, the original Raw files are what get synced and downloaded to a pre-determined folder that you can choose from the settings. So you have the original files and the edits you’ve made synced. Hope that makes sense. You don’t need to export anything if you don’t want to. Then you just backup the entire catalog and if you want to make edits in the future you can just connect the hard drive that has that catalog in it and open it to make changes. I’ve not used photoshop much on the iPad but yeah it’s nowhere near as feature complete as the desktop version is. However both lightroom and photoshop run great on my 2018 iPad Pro. So I wouldn’t worry about ram. Hope this helps! 🙌🏼
I wish I could keyword on the iPad and sync them back to my desktop LR.
Hmm yeah I haven’t tried or needed that before but I see how it could be a problem 😔
Yes! That’s what I’m waiting for!
i still can’t use the ipad other than 1 or 2 quick edits. I wished they just brought the classic to the ipad.
Personally the biggest con is not having a proper built-in tethering tool. Studio workflow is a pain without this resource.
The worst tNice tutorialng soone can do after starting is quitting... never give up and the rewards will be greatly appreciated
Another tip .. for masking just start moving slider and then long press the image to see area selected.
Not very shocking to see all these homophobes in the comnts. There's a lot of closet cases in the soft industry
Thank you for sharing, I began to travel with my iPad and load up raw files to Adobe Cloud when I reached home, I wished to move the raw file to the external SSD to free up the limited Adobe Cloud storage, and yet still have a smart preview on Ipad and iPhone, how should I do it?
Hey Victor, thanks for watching, I’m not quite sure that’s possible I’m sorry to say. Once you remove the originals from the cloud, everything goes with them. It’s the reason I only keep the photos I’m currently editing on CC cloud and then remove them once done and export JPEGs on my iCloud to have as high res final versions. If you do however figure out a way, let me know 🙏🏼
I use my iPad Pro to import into Lightroom for iPad and do my edits. I use Lightroom Classic on my MacBook Pro for storage/backup, and Photoshop for more complex edits. I do not use Lightroom CC at all. It has no use for me. I just got notified that my 1TB CC plan is going up to $20 a month, I'm seriously considering finding an alternative, but I can already tell its gonna be a difficult move and I'll have to make some sacrifices. Man I wish Apple brought back Aperture now that they have iCloud.
Yeah I was a hardcore aperture user in the past and really loved it. Doubt they would go backwards though, best we can hope for is making Photos more pro-friendly. I haven’t gotten a notification about the CC plan going up yet, hope I never do 😂😂
12:08 I used to own that Samyang 14mm lens. Even with the corrections that lens was garbage. At least on the R5. Try to shoot a interior with it and look how it warps walls. So frustrating.
Agreed, the lens is pretty bad 😂😂😭
I moved from an older desktop version to iPad as my only editing platform & got the shock of my life for how Adobe is under utilizing this beast. Anyways as for today tbe only thing been changed is you can send your pics forth and back between lightroom & photoshop. One more point to add is you can't use brush in lightroom for selected editing such as dodging & burning, it's global.
Hey Fatima, I think you’ll find that you can use a brush for such edits. Look it up! 😬👌🏼
Are you able to access masks etc on the iPad with the CC version? I was told by Adobe that on my older Mac that is 4 gigs that I was using the web version that does not have masks? Does that sound correct to you?
Hey Beth, yeah I have all masks on iPad and on iPhone I think. The web version in general has limited use from what I understand.
I was hoping for a simpler workflow, you talk about exporting jpegs to Photos, is that the Apple Photo cloud library?, also, what apple desktop/laptop are you using,? editing pics in your desktop/lap top seem to be too slow, I have the M1 MBP and Studio (Max) and there is no lag or waiting period, and I am talking about huge RAW files from my Sony A7RIV, my question is, how fast is really the process of importing the pics to the iPAD, compared with your desktop?...I m looking for an alternative for light traveling (my MPB 16" is great but heavy), have you evaluated the Macbook Air and compared with the iPAD Pro ?
Once you’ve imported your photos onto iPad lightroom they upload to the Adobe cloud. Then do they get replaced on the iPad with smart previews? If you import 10gb of images is that going to take up 10gb of your iPad storage?
Hey Jake! So there’s no easy way of doing this because once you delete the photos from the iPad, they go from the cloud too and unless you’ve switched on your pc to sync the raws, you lose them. I guess this is to prevent you from losing the raws but I’m not sure why they don’t just stick around in the cloud, it’s a bit weird and there might be a way to do this but I don’t know it. If I want to do what you are asking, first make sure the raws have synced to my computer, then delete the photos from the iPad, and then re-sync them from the computer. This way they come back to the iPad as smart previews. However be aware that doing this will prevent you from being able to edit the photos unless you are connected to the internet which kinda sucks. So what I do when I’m low on space is keep all my raws in an external hard drive and edit them in chunks, make sure they sync up and download on my Mac, and delete from the iPad. Hope this answers your question 🙌🏼😊
@@meletispix Thanks. It seems odd that it doesn’t have some kind of toggle in each album to offload to the cloud. A bit like how Dropbox has a keep on device or move to cloud toggle.
@@JakeCoventry yeah I’ll investigate a bit more to see if I can find something cause you are right, it totally should!
@@meletispix I mean also when I have imported into Lightroom on the iPad and the images have synced I have no need for the original files on my iPad anymore. I should just replace them with smart previews. I assume it’s actually doing this, but I can’t find anywhere any documentation/confirmation.
@@JakeCoventry I don't have an iPad yet (this video makes me want one!) but supposedly the iPad storage is handled "intelligently." It'll remove originals that are synced and it determines are not needed locally (e.g., not edited after some period of time). Original on iPad is replaced with a smart preview, and original can be downloaded again if needed. Can someone confirm this? Either way, I think @meletispix has the right idea of moving all the originals via LR Classic to another hard drive and cloud backup rather than paying for even more Adobe cloud space.
I reckon you don't know about cloud sync feature of lightroom classic. You can pick which library to upload to cloud by doing so, you get all the cloud features, and you know where your files are. Once you open lrcc, it sync the edits and you can progress from that.
Hey man, very clean, interesting and professional. Good sNice tutorialt.
you didn't say "no homo" man
Like 2 minutes in and you've solved the issues I was having. I didn't realize that box for showing what was going on was there, I didn't
The video, while having plenty of info, is a little misleading. The iPad limitations you speak of are two-fold - limitations by the iPad itself whether hardware or OS, and limitations of Lightroom (CC). You do make mention that the video is comparing the iPad + Lightroom CC vs a computer + Lightroom Classic but that's exactly my point.
Sorry you found it misleading, not sure how I could’ve done it differently?
@@meletispix the thing is Lightroom CC works on iPad and Mac/Windows/Android. So differentiating Lightroom CC from Lightroom Classic is one, and can actually be done on the same hardware you're using, while an iPad vs Mac/PC workflow is another.
@Alvin Yeah that't fair enough, this video was from the perspective of someone who used a mac with Lightroom Classic, switching to the iPad where your only choice is CC. To be honest I don't personally know anyone who uses CC on a computer over Classic yet. When their features are the same I'm sure many will move to CC but there are still a lot of useful things missing. 😊👍
@@meletispix I used to be on Lightroom, but when Adobe started the subscription model I shifted to purely CC. To be honest I do also have Luminar and might get Capture One at some point. LR is on my desktop PC, MacBook, Android, and me planning to buy an iPad led me here. :)
Bro ain't you that lead artist for stronghold games i admire your work bro its just amazing
I am yeah, thanks for your kind words! 🤩🙏🏼 we are working on some nice big things for the future 😉🤘🏼
One of your last workflow steps is to transfer from your Lightroom CC Files location on the iPad Pro to the hard drive on your desktop. I'm used to creating Collections in Lightroom Classic from my desktop storage locations. Can you confirm that all of the edits made on your iPad Pro with Lightroom CC are present on the files transferred from the Files Folder from the iPad Pro?
Hey Creg! Yeah all edits get passed on to the Raw files that sync over the cloud to your PC and stay with them through whatever you do to them in Classic. If they are still synced then the changes you so in Classic will also transfer to the iPad. Make sure you move the photos and make all the collections within the Lightroom Classic app though as I’m not sure it would like it if you start moving files from the explorer. Hope this answers your question! 😊👍🏼
meletispix Excellent, thanks for your response!
Hi there i see you reply to the comments section/ when you refered to downloading on lightroom with the preview mode and cannot zoom in then how do you export them from raw on ipad if they arent full res?
Hey Shroominion, when you go to export, if you are connected to the web, lightroom will download the original version from the cloud to export a high res image. Make sure you set the export setting to best for this to happen and be online. Let me know if this doesn't work for some reason. 👍😊
@@meletispix Hey ! Thanks for the rapid reply ! This answers alot i had in mind. ALSO i am confused as i have purchased LR mobile on ipad JUST so i can edit raw. . But i am having problems syncing and choosing to use LR classic or classic CC? I am sure you get where i am coming from. Also maybe a all in 1 video on how you setup or what the best cloud package to buy is because i got the cheapest one and i assumed i would have the desktop app and photoshop included. Any hints ? Cheers !!
Will missing features come to Lightroom on ipad? Like the lens correction
I sure hope so! I would imagine yes because I think they want to eventually kill the Classic version and more to the CC. Not sure how soon it’ll happen though...
Lens correction is on Lightroom mobile. You probably just missed it. But I been using it for some months now. Where it says optics. You will see it there and you can enable lens correction ... hope this helps
Nice pro/cons presentation ! 👍🏻 Juste to be sure, but it's possible to use lightroom cc without any use of the sync and cloud thing ?!
Lightroom classic user here. But probably going for ipad pro. My workflow as i imagine it, would be import all pictures and make a full save on an external ssd then select and kept only those i'm gonna edit and publish. Finally export that final batch and save it in an under folder on the ssd.
Hey thanks Pierre! Not sure how you could work with and external ssd as when you import photos it doesn’t give you the choice of where to store them and it automatically saves them on the ipad. You can export them after the fact as dng files if you choose to but to edit, they need to be on the device. If things have changed and I’m not aware, I’m happy to stand corrected. All the best!
Would you recommend getting A HP spectra X360 Laptop or the iPad air/ iPad pro in replace of a desktop PC for photography (portrait photography specifically)(lightroom, desktop, etc.) And being the only device used
Hey Ashley, I wouldn't recommend an iPad as the only device just because managing, storing and backing up files would be a bit of a mess. I'd get it only if you have a regular PC or Mac to use as a hub for organizing your photos and then use the iPad for a faster and more fun editing experience. Hope this helps! :)
My question stems from an photo editor's point of view: May one *benefit* from Apple's Mini-LED display for the M1 iPad Pro 12.9' during post-processing (in Photoshop Lightroom)? Or will one only get to witness the "glory" brightness of 1000 nits and beyond *only* when *viewing* HDR content? I've been told that Apple's new XDR projects at around 500/ 600 nits during normal usage. Do you notice any micro-contrast improvements when editing on the 12.9' mini-LED vs the normal 11'? Please advise, and thank you in advance.
Sorry mate but I have the 2018 iPad so my display is older and doesn’t have the features your are asking about… if you find out the answer let me know too please! 😊🙏🏼
Excellent explanation of the pros and cons, thanks
Thanks dude, glad you liked it! 😊🙌🏼
The real problem is that is mandatory to store on the cloud and not only in disk, like the classic version
Thats a lot of work just to not carry a laptop! I'm sure it's easier once you get used to it. I keep an Ipad air in my bag for quick edits if I want to post something to social, but the process is way to clunky for more than just a hand-full of shots at a time.
Yeah the new MacBook Pros have me reconsidering now but they quite pricey! 😂🥲
I don't even have an ipad. But I can truly appreciate the level detail with which you described your experience. This was a chill and enjoyable information package. God bless you!
Thank you for leaving such a lovely comment mate 😊🙏🏼🙏🏼
I am really a fan of your work. I have watched a lot of your videos just after I discovered your channel. Please upload again.
That’s really nice of you to say! I’ve been quite unmotivated over this pandemic but I have a few vids in the works. Just need to sit my ass down and finish editing them! Your comment helps push me a bit 😬👌🏼🙌🏼
Once you delete from the iPad (LR CC), don't you lose the catalog of edits? In case you ever need to make other edits? Or do you just return to your original RAW and redo it?
Hey Christine, so yeah if you haven't moved your edited Raws from on a PC or Mac from your All Synced pictures to a new folder in a local hard drive and you just delete straight from the iPad, those edits are gone. If you follow the workflow i laid out though using a the computer to essentially backup your edited Raws, you can always drag that folder back into your All Synced tab and that will bring em back to your ipad if you want to edit them there again via the Cloud. Hope his helps! :)
I also don’t have gps on my camera so what I do is take a quick pic with my phone at each site then use the coordinates from that when I get home
Finally made that video about how to Geotag your pics :) ruclips.net/video/WNaZYXUXoRk/видео.html
Not sure how you select keepers/goners .. I go to image then select Rate-Review mode then use pencil to swipe up/down for yes/no flag.. then I filter entire library on No flags and delete them.
I use the X key on the keyboard to reject the ones I want to delete 😊👍🏼
Thanks for the review,. Once you're done editing on an ipad for example, can you still need to go back and reedit photos in lightroom CC app? just like you normally would when you open catalog where your edits are stored in lightroom classic?
You’re welcome! As long as your photos are synced up to the cloud or you’ve downloaded the photos to a Lightroom Classic Catalog, you can always continue editing them there or drag them back to your All Synced Photos abs that will get them back to your iPad to edit again. Hope that makes sense cause you don’t have catalogs on the iPad, only on the desktop.
I've had an 11" iPad Pro 2018 and have generally had no problems with overheating (for the most part, unless I've done layered composites in Affinity Photo, but it didn't cause the screen to dim). This week I tried out a 12.9" 2020 and while the extra screen real estate was great, I did notice a tendency for it to get a lot hotter faster, and not only did the screen dim (which I didn't understand why until you mentioned it was tied to overheating), but Lightroom tended to crash repeatedly as I did more and more edits. Ultimately I decided to stay with the 11" as it's a much more convenient size, while the 12.9" tended to feel unwieldy handheld (which is how I would use it most of the time). Has anyone else noticed the 12.9" overheats faster?
Glad I wasn’t crazy with noticing the screen dimming 😂 tbh my iPhone also does so when im editing photos or videos which kinda sucks. 💆🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Can you make a video showing us how to edit fotos on affinity photo on an iPad please
I’m afraid I don’t really use Affinity to edit photos, only to stitch Panoramas if I really can’t wait to be on my Mac. I usually do all my editing in Lightroom CC. I’m sure there are plenty of good tutorials though if you search! 😊👍🏼
Felháborító, hogy még hobbiról szóló videók közben is politikai propagandát kell nézni!
And in English?? 😬😬
Ok I google translated it... what propaganda exactly are you referring to? 🤔
Great video bro! I just started moving my post work to my iPad Air and this was great to see that I’m not too far off on my logic of this being a better more efficient way to work.
Thanks man! 😎🙏🏼🙏🏼
ill stick to my 40 inch monitor lol and no faffing
😂👍🏼👍🏼
well prepared video, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it 😊🙏🏼
Great video. Printing is also a short coming of Lightroom on the iPad.
Yeah I haven’t tried printing from the iPad if I’m honest. I’d bet its not the best experience 😂🥲
@@meletispix yes, it non existent. The basic AirPrint print option generates a pdf.
Great video! Thank you so much for putting it together
Glad you enjoyed it!
Had the ipad pro for months the workflow still confuses me
Yeah still needs work 😔
What a great video, thanks a lot for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!😊🙌🏼
I use the same work flow of you : IPad Pro + Mac mini M1 + benq SW270C monitor but I notice some color difference from Lightroom CC and Lightroom classic in my mac. I try to explain me better: I use the iPad to modify the color, WB etc… but when I open the same picture in the desktop version the color grading are different and with more sature color. In the IPad Pro screen the color are more natural. This create confusion in my work flow because I don’t know how color version is corrected. The monitor is calibrate and the profile that I used is sRGB ( I tried to use the P3 mode also). Nothings is changed. Have you never notice this difference during your works?
Hey Riccardo, my Mac screen is so bad I don’t even pay attention to what the colours look like on it 😂. At the end of the day the colours I see on the iPad are the same I see on my iPhone which is what I use to post to Instagram which is where most people see my images so that’s the only place I care how the colours look. My suggestion to you would be to post an image online and view it from a few different devices abs see what looks best and then edit with that in mind. Keep in mind though too that most people view our images on tiny phone screens. If you are going to print your images then that’s totally different you’d have to run tests from each device and calibrate accordingly. Hope this helps 👍🏼
@@meletispix thank you for your quickly reply. Unfortunately I print my pictures and is very important for me have a perfect color. Is very strange this color difference. Anyway thank you again
Sorry I couldn’t be more help mate! When you print, does it look more like the iPad or your Mac?
@@meletispix. The pictures are like my Mac mini with benq monitor. The problem is that I’d like to use my iPad Pro during my trips.
@@GiordinoRic hmm yeah that’s quite the problem. Could be one for Adobe or Apple support to be honest. If you find out how to fix it let me know though 😬🙏🏼
Nice video Andreas. Lots of useful info 👌
Glad you found it informative Steve! 😊🙏🏼🙏🏼
Nice video are you Cypriot
Thanks! I’m Greek but my grandparents are Cypriot 😎👌🏼
Very helpful 👍
Glad you found it helpful 😊🙏🏼
what about high megapixel files? will this work?
My girlfriend shoots with the Sony A7r3 which has 42 megapixels and edit on the the air it’s just as fast. Not sure about larger than that though 😊👍🏼
@@meletispix yes was going with the Nikon z7 ... 43 megapixel .. so good ! Thank you
@@AdamGell pleasure 🙌🏼
Been experiencing that screen dims a lot and quite stressing, which is why I’m preferring the Mac to edit hundreds of photos. Great job on mentioning it! 👍🏻
Yeah it’s quite annoying when it happens 🥲
@@meletispix Does the M1 chip makes any difference?
I don’t have any personal experience with the M1 iPad I’m afraid so can’t answer to that. I’m sure it’s more snappy but dunno if the screen won’t dim if it gets overheated. 🙃
@@auldzbuzz3374 I don’t think so. Eventhough it’s using the M1 chip, all electronic devices will come to that overheated condition sooner or later. Later for sure. Especially when given tasks that used to be for “laptop or pc” only. And given that facts, I change my mind with the iPad Pro then purchased the M1 Pro instead. They’re quite on the same price strangely. The next big question is how the M1 Air handle that situation. Without the fan, theoretically it’s iPad with built in keyboard. While iPad dims its screen when overheated, quite not sure what will M1 Air do. And it sure sounds ridiculous if the M1 Air also dims it’s screen. LOL.
You have to remember the laptops have all their parts and batteries separate from the screen so even if they overheat, there’s no reason to dim the display
May I know how long it takes for iPad Pro to render 300 photos ?
Hey mate, are you asking about exporting or importing?
@@meletispix hey dude, I mean export.
@@meletispix waiting for the answer for this if you have a free time? How long it takes to export 300 photos from lightroom CC?
@@hectorubas3188 it takes about a second to export per picture in high res jpegs on my iPad 2018. I’d imagine the M1 would be faster.
Nice video 👌🏼Do I have to use lightroom or other Adobe program to edit my pictures, can I use free programs or a one off payment program?
Are we talking pc/Mac or iPad? Cause there are a few alternatives for computers. The magic of Lightroom isn’t so much that you can edit but also that you can organise your photos in a library and edit at the same time. The biggest alternative I know of is CaptureOne which offers both subscription or a one time fee.
@@meletispix Ipad
@@busterboy7507 right then I’m afraid if you need an mass importer/editor I’m only aware of Lightroom. 😌
@@meletispix Shit. Ok thanks for your help mate much appreciated.
Sorry to bother you but what if I only had say a max of 100 photos to edit, would I still need lightroom?
Great Video with lots of understandable information I didn’t get elsewhere. Thank you.
I missed the use of keywords. Don’t you use them? How do you search for certain pictures? Is the LR file structure sufficient for you or do you use the search feature in Apple Fotos app?
Thanks! You can use search and it has AI that identifies objects and faces and locations and yeah you can set keywords manually too. I’ve never personally used it that way. Pick/Reject, Geolocation and star rating has always been enough for me. Hope this helps! 🙌🏼 oh also forgot the second part, when I’ve finished editing my pictures abs they are backed up on my desktop I export the final JPEG’s in my Apple photos library and that’s where I see them most. There I search by date, faces, locations mostly 😎👍🏼👍🏼