This Paragon Actually Makes Your Towers WORSE! (Bloons TD 6)
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- This Paragon Actually Makes Your Towers WORSE! BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - the nautic siege core provides a buff to your heroes, or does it really? The 1 stat that the sub paragon negatively affects towers with might be enough to pull down the whole ship... find the answers to that here.
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Can't wait to see how the attack speed debuff affects Ben!
I think he will make it 1 less round (clueless)
guessing only trojan is affected
@@Sightss_ yep
@@Kevacathe chart literally said op lol 😂
Crazy that Quincy JUST got giga buffed
What was the buff?
Edit: Nvm, it's literally at 2:29
@@carlosemilio385 watch the video
@@carlosemilio385the update yesterday gave the storm of arrows almost 20+ extra ceramic damage
@@blitzo64its just ceram damage though, would that really make a difference at round 180+?
@@aydenator2770 Main attack probably won't but storm of arrows is horrible against super ceram
This just proves how hard it can be to use this paragon on purpose. It takes everything to make it actually work vs. just dropping Ace Paragon.
Worst part of Ace was that initially it broke when NinjaKiwi set it to Wingmonkey, so they just never let it have that to begin with.
its not as bad as the wizard paragon at least
@@nmmeswey3584 I'm missing a Lych Elite medal coz of that flippin' wizard. I got up to Tier 3 but was stuck and so left it until morning, I still had several hours to beat the boss when I awoke, but while playing, it crashed and when I reloaded the game, Lych was replaced with a bugged Bloonarius event, which also crashed, and I never beat it. I spite the Wizard Paragon now coz ending the boss event a day early for updates screwed my perfect boss win streak.
Crybaby alert @@necroarcanistxiii
@@accelerationnn3346 no life alert
I still stand on the nautic siege core staying in development for a couple more patches.
??? what?
yeah, hero buff making towers worse, ability taking 15 seconds to come out for some reason?? why such a big arbitrary number instead of something like 3, 5 or 10? and flanking maneuvers MK not working on it.
1 of these massive issues has been remedied in the new v42 update, which would be the flanking maneuvers MK working now. but personally, thats the massive issue that i cared the least about out of the 3.
Please elaborate
@@aka2384 I mean. It’s bad. Read aydenators comment above me
Imo, all they have to do is make it perma submerge and fix the buff, while also having the normal attacks while submerged
wow imagine spending around 340k-480k+ (depending on the difficultly) for the most expensive nerf you can give your towers lmao
11:02 -21207561 DPS? Man I knew they nerfed adora but this much
It spawns 20 bads with a hit instead of pop it XD
I feel like your thumbnails are the most underrated part of your channel. They're just so simple yet appealing, and they make me hyped when I see them. Great video!
This is true. Isab has mastered the art of simple yet effective thumbnails, and he has a specific style that is very recognizable. I know an isab video when I see it in my feed. Once again proving “less is more.”
Facts
I gotta see if Corvus' big hands and overload get the x5 damage increase
Oh no
Nope doesnt work like that most abilities that dont use the base projectile cant get buffed
@@light6666 just tested it. It does. Dink donk
Would be great since he doesn't get affected by buffs a lot
The best part about God Buffed Adora are all those patterns she creates.
She doesn’t even have to be super buffed. Just give her a tier 4 engineer buff, village with a tier 4 alch and she is golden. Make sure to sacrifice 2500 bucks worth of a tower for the max buff
It's crazy that Ninja Kiwi felt the need to nerf the buff a 500k tower brings to the table
2:15 maxlevelidot been real quiet since this happened
I find it fascinating that despite being likely the most underwhelming paragon, the Sub Paragon barely got major changes in the latest few updates (or any that I've seen)
I mean it was only added 2 updates ago
Think its only underwhelming cuz not every paragon can be stronger than the last. I'd say its fine but the buff is really bad cuz why would you get sub paragon just for the buff.
@@Lt_KoroI think it's funny to pair it with Brickell because she does insane damage with it, but her dps with the buff still doesn't outpace the sub
i didnt even know the sub paragon came out
Two updates ago
You didn’t waste time trying it out then
Damn, good for it
Bruh
lowkey thought this was an old modded vid
All those villages, that's what I call a Bloons Monkey City™️
chimps but you can only buy towers in alphabetical order
The attack speed cooldown is just so unnecessary on an already weak paragon.
Honestly, everything about it submerged is half baked
All it would take for the sub paragon to be good is to give ather paragons like a 2-3x boost, with the 150% attack speed nerf. Because of the fact that other paragons can't receive damage buffs, the sub paragon seems like it was designed to buff other paragons, and then they just kinda... Forgot about that. If they change it to whete it could buff paragons, it would make it actually woth it to buy
I was just trying this last night, now you have made a video about it.
16:47 hey ISAB got a BMA
Brickel in particular benifits quite a lot from the sub paragon buff, especially since it works on the mega mine
surprising that it isn't a glitch tbh, considering it wasn't patched, guess it's supposed to be situational or something
it makes sense if you’re not going ultra late/max buffing. degree 1 paragon i guess? but you could probably just but buffs for about the same amount of time
@@joemama-kc7ez the buff doesn't get better with levels
@@Kevaca yeah, like i said. degree 1
@@Kevaca For the record, they are saying that the most efficient way to use this buff *would* be the degree 1 paragon. They never implied that the reason it is terrible is because of the fact it is degree 1, but rather that to actually even use it, thanks to this information you replied with, the best degree for it being the first since it wastes the least amount of money if you don’t want to ultra late game buff. It’s just an incredibly pricey and inflated pickles buff, if you think about it. Yeah, I was confused reading that reply too but that’s what they meant. Sorry for making a long reply about it.
@@joemama-kc7ez why would you do that though? If you have enough money for a paragon then your hero will start becoming irrelevant. So just overall just a really bad buff
who would've thought that radiation poisoning would hurt your performance
Quincy's dad must be so proud
You knoq what doesn't make something worse? ISAB making videos
Max buffed Admiral Brickell would not be bad, they buffed the base attack a bit.
you should try to find the best 2 tower combination with max buffs once you run out of content with this series
I'd be curious what super mines would look like if sub Paragon could buff normal towers
I feel like a 33% decrease in attack speed is a bit too strong, and that something like 20% attack speed decrease or even a 25% attack speed decrease would be more fair.
I always felt the Sub Paragon was.... Sub par...... lol
I wonder if this work on Geraldo items, because turrets, fire spirit, rabbit and gene that can be a pretty huge boost
Huh. Maybe the trick is to micro between submerged and unsubmerged depending on if you are getting pierce capped or not. Because while single target nerf is real, 3x pierce is nothing to sniff at.
I wonder how Church does with it? Put him on a good straight and just let loose.
Yooo love the monke vids isab
Thanks for debuffing the monkeys isab
Isab just turned my sharpshooter into a glue hose 😳
WHAT?????
🤨📸
he’s about to glue splatter his Moab glue
AYOOOOOOO THIS IS THE WORST ONE BY FAR
What the
Wasn't this fixed/changed in update 42? I swear I saw somewhere in the patch notes that the sub paragon no longer decreases the attack speed of heroes.
Is this 1 of your saved, older videos (as in 1 that you recorded a while ago in case you couldn't make a video on any specific day)?
Nope, nothing in any of the patch notes of 41.0, 41.1/41.2, 42.0. My only other thought is that it may've been in Ethan Reid's April Fools update video & I'd confused it with an actual change.
Ok, this was in fact in Ethan Reid's April Fools update video.
First time seeing the damage counter going negative at 3:59 lol
How far can the heroes make it with support like Super Glue, Cripple, Super Brittle, Icicle Impale, Snowstorm, Ninja Slow, Glue storm.
Also how about Giga boosting them by using the modded village for every buff along with the supports. It would be interesting to see how far each one could make it then.
2:14 See? Nothing gets past Quincy's bow, he even got to the highest round of all heros!
ben < quincy
Now i know Sauda will be a goddess.
I feel Brickell would benefit a lot from her base pistol damage being high.
I wonder what would happen with top ppath sniper with that buff
At this point I can’t even be mad anymore, it’s just like do they even test their game material? Takes months to come out its and barely anything/full of bugs/needs balancing
Do a chimps mode where the amount of pops a tower has is the total amount of money you can spend on it for example if a dart monkey has 100 pops you can spend a total of $100 on it
11:30 hang on, what if paragon buff apply, always? as in even with things that shouldnt, it will apply as it is a paragon buff? That would be a interesting way to make it better.
sub paragon may be op with saud but idk because i am relatively inexperienced
Was hoping you'd go with no buff to see how much further the buff made it go.
Although the sub Paragon is underwhelming, i feel like ISAB just hates it. Great video though keep up the good work
Isab: Let's see if TSG Adora is better with or without the buff
Also Isab: Only tests Adora with the buff, not seing how much damage she would have done without it.
I feel like towers like the mad or the ray of doom would benefit greatly from the siege buffs.
It only buffs heroes
Does the buffs affect geraldo sub towers as a whole or just the ones in range? Because i think that could be huge for him
The only way i wouldnt care is if the ability did like 10 times the damage it does.
ive found that submerge sub pgon gives buffs to pp totems do you know what that does?
I wonder if that's just unintentional behavior on the attack speed
It’s intentional, just poor game design. This interaction has been around for months now.
Hey isab could you do the t4 temple maxed buffed? I dont think you have ever made a videon on it/its super old
Is Brickell's level 10 ability affected by damage buffs? If so, that could actually be a good combo.
this passive is weird cause the nerf is affected by overclock but the + damages not...weird
I definitely think it's weird that NK is always like "Quincy is such a good early game hero!!" when that's just blatantly not true, tho I suppose his early game is better than Ezili's. From the way he's designed I'd assume he's just meant to be solid through the whole game, as opposed to specializing in one part of the game, hence why he has a strong lategame.
Quincy is a good early tho, he just struggles at pinks and yellows
He literally is good early tho. You can start with him even on some expert maps.
@@willw5868 Okay I should specify, yes you can *start* with him and he has a decent early game, but a lot of NK's in-game text seems to imply it's meant to be his specialty, of that makes sense at all?
It just seems reductive to me IMO.
@@GarryDumblowski I’m pretty sure he has the best early game out of all the heroes for hard maps (sauda sucks on most expert maps) so I think it’s fair. But yeah he also has really really high dps lategame so he’s more versatile than just early game carry for sure
İt's time for 2mp WLP wise Bloon man
Can someone explain why this happens with sub paragon cause it just doesn’t make sense a buff is a buff.
Considering ball of light gets affected by the sub paragon, maybe etiennes perma ucav might also get the buff which could be huge.
Level 20 etienne is actually worse than 19 with the sub when it comes to dps
How on earth would lv19 be worse than lv20. That makes 0 sense
@@shaydenprime275 level 19 UCAV has higher base damage than level 20, hope this helps.
@@KrazeemSB2 Level 20's _perma-UCAV_ has less damage than level 19 UCAV _ability_ , but when the ability is used, it does way more damage.
@@weirdooftheyear yeah but the ability is added on after so it doesn't get the 5x
Thank you Ninja Kiwi for nerfing Quincy, he needed one bad
and this is why punji still hasn't unlocked the paragon
I’m surprised adora isn’t used more. Easily my favorite hero. Forget sauda, adora is the girl for me
I def think the buff needs some tweaking, but man, why does everyone test it with low base damage heros? Adora has ball of light but like, man... you even acknowledged you suspected it would be better with higher base damage heroes but didn't think to try brickell with her 40 base damage and mega mines. It's like you're trying to show how bad it is and not giving it the benefit of optimal conditions...
Am I a continuous Arrow or just a bunch of Arrows in a trench coat?
We might never know
Why didn’t ninja kiwi not buff this this needs a buff
Just saying but the difference between sub and no sub gets pretty big when you add debuffs into the mix
does anyone else think next pet should be a sauda pet for the flying fortress? it could be a really cool idea, and i would def get it
nautic siege core making attack speed worse just feels completely unnecessary its a paragon make it super buff heroes
Simply said: "The buff is additive and not multiplicative."
“forgot”
Hoping next paragon is sniper
Benjamin might actually beat a round because of the sub!
10:43
buss😫💧
Pls do Churchill next
The bloons are called nothing
"Super mines"
Considering that the sub paragon is buffing abilities not usually impacted by buffs, it might work on Moab Hex...
It doesn't unfortunately.
Moab hex is percent based. Mega mine though...
My thought was the % would be multiplied by 5. (Or the damage the % does is multiplied by 5, but that's essentially the same thing.)
Mega Mine is interesting.
Why even include the attack speed nerf?
Submerge is underpowered as it is.
Should reduce cool downs by more to get more moab hexs late game.
Goes to show how important attack speed is compaired to pure attack or pierce
Since there are so many damage buffs in the game, its all about just more projectiles
It'd be nice if he actually tested a hero with high base damage, especially after saying it would probably benefit those most...
@@maudley if you think sauda would be good with this no.. not at all she requires high attack speed and the buff cutting it by 33% means she isnt gonna preform better
@@light6666 sauda? Nah, she's not a high base damage hero. Brickell and Obyn come to mind
Hey Isab, not sure if this is a good idea but I thought it would be cool if you do the max buff test but for all 3 paths of a monkey. I think it could be really interesting and an extension of this. Also I’m not sure about the details (details need to be ironed out) it’s something similar to the all game modes with a single tower except instead of that you take a single game mode with different maps. You can only beat each map once for variety and every time you can only choose each path monkey (or tower your choice) once. I think it would be cool to try and test your knowledge and just do it as a self imposed challenge. You would really have to make some odd combinations to make it to later maps
Fell
Haha thanks for letting me know😂
These bots commenting right now have the weirdest profile pictures lmao
Yeah some of them do 💀
Wait they added a sub paragon
Edit:I have it and didn't know I had it
Why they done my fav monkey submarine So dirty😢
Still the GOAT
My god… he was telling the truth
Thank you ISAB for spreading the truth about the sub paragon!
I am still disappointed with sub paragon overall, too many drawbacks
Ain't no way
Does the damage buff apply before moab or fortified damage?
Like if I had a hero dealing 1 damage and +3 moab damage, is it (1*5)+3 or (1+3)*5
Yes
He even said at his test
It's applied to base damage not buffed damage, moab/fort damage is considered a buff internally
Does this make Vengeful Adora top 3 now for max buff towers? I'm curious where she is in the standings now, and who the towers above her are.
vengeful adora isn't any stronger than true sun priestess Adora
The upcoming update will remove the attack speed nerf.
Surely
That Adora skin looks 😍. ISAB needs to reconsider Sauda 😂
Chinese sauda skin:
Quincy stood in front of the strongest hero in history, and with a clench on his hand, crushing an arrow. A bitter taste left in his tongue.
Adora smirked, feeling cocky because of her win. "You can't beat a God."
"But you let a mere mortal, get to your level." Quincy retailiated, raising up his bow.
"Know you're place, ant." Adora crossed her arms.
A continues battle for the strongest, between the strongest hero in history, versus the strongest hero today.
"Domain Expansion." They both shouted.
LMFAOOOOO
Only NK could be so afraid of making a good paragon they actually nerf towers around it. Absolute clowns
wait there's a sub paragon, how long have I been gone
not long
Didn’t fall off button
Test supermines!
Bruh it only buffs heroes..
@@shaydenprime275 ok never mind then, carry on!
@@shaydenprime275mega mines from brickell