Why RuneScape’s Most Loved Moderator Went Rogue
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Mod Ash is Old School RuneScape's most beloved Jagex Moderator. He's spent almost two decades at Jagex creating content for RuneScape. So why did he secretly write articles like "Reasons To Hate Jagex"? Today we find out.
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was hitchance always a thing? yeh, but in EoC it was garbage. nobody wanted to use abilities that might not hit stuff. lol the new beta runs
Wait, so Ash had an online alias where he criticised himself to vent his thoughts and leak info to the community? What a legend
he needs medical attention LOL
@anthonydeag8593 you need to get a life
@@xDarkCrusader why? for being one of the only good people in the game industry? mod ash gives af, always has and always will. you should be thankful there is someone that cares about you because god knows your parents dont.
@@oneautumnleaff2119I met him at runefest 2019 and he is such a nice bloke as well. What a true legend
@@oneautumnleaff2119 He gives more of a shit than almost anyone. The dude genuinely loves the game and community. Not many devs are gonna answer random questions on twitter, yet Ash does all the time. As mixed as my feelings are about the game, and especially the company, nothing but respect for Mod Ash.
Honestly expected this to be like a downfall video of Ash, but after watching and seeing that he's just the lovable guy we all know and love and finding out more things about the past and how he was being a great guy then is just amazing.
Just a clickbaiting kunt as usual
Why you gonna think that? Ash has never done anything sht towards rs players
And and and and and
@@Finduski im not as crazy into the game as I used to be. I just remember Mod Ash being the big teddy bear guy the community loves. I thought I may have missed something after not paying attention for a while.
@@nostanz2861 Yes 'and' is a word. I'm not some famous writer dude
Ash, without a doubt, is the reason old school became what it is today. The game could have more or less died and the player base would be minimal. Ash is what Jim Collins calls a level 5 leader/employee, someone who is, unquestionably almost solely responsible for the success of the company. From bringing player involvement to an all time high and dedicating his personal time to be a better employee for the game he loves so that we all benefit to the best of his ability, to personally paying woox for being exactly the type of player jagex requires to further the game by thinking so far outside the box it hurts, if there's a hall of fame for runescape, Ash should be the first name on the wall.
Agree 100%, the more I learn about Mod Ash, the more I respect him. What a cool guy
If they make a hall of fame they should name the hall after him
Don't forget he's also the emergency dev for jagex as well, as in if something gamebreaking occurs during closed hours he's the man they call to go in and quell the ongoing issue at that time. God Ash forgoes sleep/rest for us, so we can get our dopamine fix.
No he’s not
@@xsomewhattoxicin the olden days. This hasn't been the case for some considerable time now...there's a dedicated team for this.
Half a million tweets and it's not a bot account. That's a dedicated staff member. I hope they pay him well.
He was able to pay Woox 10K USD out of his own pocket for winning DMM because Jagex would not pay out. I always took that as him doing okay.
probs just frugal and loves the game whole heartedly.@@BackflipinBrandon
@@BackflipinBrandonthat’s because he got paid in shares by gower before it blew up and the price stock price later went up by 1000s%
@@BackflipinBrandonI wonder if he was compensated for that
@@shrimpy7862that would mean Jagex being a decent company. So probably not
Lets not forget that Mod Ash was the one who brought OSRS back to life too
it was actually SoWreck3d
I was one of the first players to reach out when 2006scape private server was beginning to get votes and threatening Jagex. I have all the screenshots, initially they said bringing back the game was not possible because they didnt have the revision officially saved. I knew it was nonsense and a couple weeks later they responded to me that they were considering starting a poll on RS forums to bring back an “old school” version of the game.
SoWreck3d initiated the plan, Ash is the most important Mod behind it.
@@SuperHovik ?? The runescape 2006 private server project??
@@BobbiPhantomMod Matt K had a heavy hand in it too. Streaming after work, interacting with the community, told upper management to shove micro transactions in OSRS up their ass. And he has so many other massive balls feats to boot lol
Everytime we learn about ash he just seems even cooler
True!! He's an absolute legend
Good job on your group tile man series
The legendary Hanannie
We not
One time you made me laugh so much I choked on a burp
Sum of the video: there are no reasons to hate Mod Ash.
Amen
Ash is a goddamned legend. Absolutely deserves his place as the most beloved moderator, without question. He's done so much, between content development, community engagement and quality of life... I hope we never lose him. Praise God Ash.
He’s not Jesus chill out
@@nickvas95 my brother in Guthix it's just a joke, the dude deserves mad praise but no one actually worships him
How dare u. I have an altar in my basement I worship daily.
@@nickvas95 His name is literally God Ash wdym.
@@_Dio_Brando_69 That's what you think
I feel for Ash. The one time I met him ingame he was extremely humble and said hi even when he didn't have to, I traded him a cup of tea.
Aaaaaahhhhh, nothing like a nice cup of tea!!!
Can we take a moment to appreciate the innocence of Ash's mother.
I’d rather say not innocent at all, as it wasn’t bottle she was thinking about
might be the opposite of innocence... haha
Like the dog garned version Merry
@@davemeade4371 God darned virgin Mary*
@@hogandromgool2062Thanks. I had no idea what that meant xD
mod ash is the hero runescape needed. i sometimes think of the nightmarish world we would be living in if andrew gower himself hadnt told ash about runescape 1. what a beautiful coincidence. in a recent interview, he stated he would love to be promoted to project director, a step up from his current project manager role. i think he would singe handedly address so many of the glaring issues with osrs in no time flat. here's hoping upper management recognizes this mans sheer dedication to this awesome game.
Ive only started playing RuneScape for the first time about 9-12 months ago. The reason ive started where 3 things. Swampletics which i binged while not knowing anything about the game itself , your great content around the game and the attention you gave to ash and the dev team in all of them. Ash , the other mods and content creators like you are the face of this game which i grew to love. Iam very glad for the community you guys got me into
Welcome man!!
I spoke to him the other day on Twitter about restaurant options. Can confirm he's an amazing guy.
Also the lifeblood of the game.
I spoke to him 20 mins ago. Ok bloke
I'm currently speaking to Ash right now, greatest of the great geezer's.
Mod Ash was definitely far ahead of his time. Transparency & talking to the player base is quite literally a game changer. What a legend.
Mod Ash is the embodiment of dedication to his craft, it doesn't matter if it's on the clock or off, he loves the game with all of his being. And for that, we all love him back!
Ash along with the other devs deserve a raise.
Obviously Ash deserves one of the biggest if not the biggest.
Not only did Ash set the standard for how jagex employees could operate in the coming years, but he is also an inspiration for game developers everywhere when it comes to transparency and community engagement. Truly a man of the people
mod ash is the most hyped but yet still somehow underrated and under appreciated developer ever. actual goat
Man your content is so damn good, I feel like most of this type of stuff is known by a big chunk of the community these days, but all of this was totally new to me, I never knew this about Ash anonymously making posts on tipit, that's nuts man
HUGE props to Nello for the work, brother is on fire recently and deserves to be viewed as one of the absolute top OSRS/Runescape creators!
That means a lot, thank you!!
casually found you in the comments while working.. lol
@@ColonelloRS WE LOVE YOU NELLO
@@Knorznase hahaha nice, fancy seeing you here 😂
@@KoraOSRSwhats your relation to that man?
I've not played OSRS in a couple of years now but as soon as I saw God Ash's face I had to give it a watch. What a guy! He's always the first staff member that comes to mind when I think of Runescape.
i swear, every year, more and more comes out about Ash that just makes you appreciate him even more.
Vids like these always give me literal chills. Man, we've gone through decades of ups and down, so glad we are still going with OSRS as we are today.
Your storytelling in this video is soo good! Right from the beginning to the end, introducing characters, their backstory, problems they need to solve, etc. I love how you jumped right into the content and provided a hook before jumping into some brief exposition. How long does the script writing for these kinds of videos take you? (Once you already have completed the research.)
Thank you!! If I had to guess I’d say each script usually takes me around 5-8 hours of writing and a few more hours of refinement and re-reading. A lot of it depends on the video’s length. :)
I still think Jagex should have been 100% transparent about why they removed free trade. I just don't understand why they didn't. They could have saved themselves so many headaches.
Modern Jagex 100% would have been transparent about something like the credit card chargeback issue if that happened nowadays.
To be fair, modern Jagex is only modern Jagex because they learned from all those past mistakes. Nowadays they know better than to pull the rug out from under their community without explanation, the same can't be said for back then. This video also paints a clear border between Jagex devs, who actively play the game and engage with the community, and Jagex upper management who see quarterly earnings and financial crises and ultimately call the shots, but don't necessarily see the game or the players like the devs do. They didn't understand how bad they were fucking up back then by keeping their playerbase in the dark while thoroughly shafting them.
Dont think it wouldve made a big difference.. a lot of The community were A lot younger and wouldnt understand anyway
@@dikkezeveri think you are right, you would be about me anyways, if they changed something i liked doing the most, no matter what reason they had, i likely would just put more time into another game/something i enjoyed anyways around 15 years old
I adore mod ash. Dude easily has the most love for the game. The fact that most of us have personally talked to the man is a huge testament to that. Tbh the devs caring as much as they do is half the reason I even play osrs.
Before the update, our clan, God Hunters, and our alliance did a 1000 vs. 998 wildy battle vs another clan (I believe we locked down all but two of the server slots). Lagged out the whole server soooo bad with all the stacks of people getting ice barraged.
After the update, we went into clan wars, realized our clan/game enjoyment was going to die off over time, and just coasted the slow burnout.
I and my clan definitely hated Jagex at the time for ruining our game. This is the first I've ever heard these details/the real reasons why they did what they did. Ash rocks, and thank you for teaching why he wasn't at fault for the updates. ❤️
This was a really well made video. I appreciate the effort you've put in to "cataloging" this slice of history.
Glad you enjoyed it!
ASH should be the CEO no matter what he will do the best for this
The attitude of the HR manager who did his performance review is sadly still the attitude a lot of game devs have today. Even though companies like Jagex and Bungie (rip) proved how vital constant communication with their playerbase is for the overall health of the game, a lot of developers still try to keep everything close to their chests and when shit hits the fan, stay radio silent
she has the right mentality to turn the company into the succesful company of blizzard who has the best L streak in history
Just go to show how amazing this man is. We owe a HUGE debt of Gratitude to him. This game is one of the truly natural wonder left in existance. Thank you Mod Ash. You deserve a Nobel Peace Prize!
He deserves one million dollars
@@bamf6603 yeah fuck the peace prize, get this man jacuzzi money
❤ ~mod Ash~ ❤
all time legend. Huge congrats on 20yrs defending and keeping OSRS alive. 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
From taking away free trade to making updates revolved around an entire community of players that don't trade. Oh how the games gone full circle
I miss the Gower Brothers. The game was best under their care especially since RuneScape was their baby.
Love these lil mini-docs about Runescape. Always cover the topic at hand very well and unearth new things that no one has heard of before. Great video as always, man!
Mod ash, nothing but respect and love for him! Crazy how much he does, hopefully he sticks with us til the end as long he's still passionate about it 😊
tbh the idea of the revenants spawning more and more even if you don't kill them leading to you being surrounded sounds like a cool idea to implement somewhere in a new area as a way to have a timer for how long you can be there for if done right
sounds like a way to exploit billions of gp. I love it.
And there I was, terrified he did something in the past couple of days and I've not been aware of it, but alas ... my worries were quickly drawn away and holy shit you can't but LOVE this man.
His way of dealing with it is almost poetic and fsr give me the feeling of Mod Ash being the main character of this world.
little did they know, the grand exchange was the update of ultimate doom
Ash really is the hero we needed but didn’t deserve. I hope he realizes how beloved he is.
I swear, whatever they pay Ash, it is not enough!
Even though I think he wouldn't leave if he didnt earn well, since his passion for the game is on another level.
Thanks for all the work and passion, GOAT.
Shocked Ash even went rouge
Hes still with us
Amongus
I remember a 13 year old me was so upset when Jagex took away the wilderness. I was one of those folks who thought it was just Jagex trying to troll us like some kind of big brother bullying us for no reason. I didn't quit the game but I did feel like it was a huge part of the game that was removed and it was almost heartbreaking that the wild went from a huge battlefield to basically empty overnight.
We used to sit east of the varrock castle and recruit randoms for our little roam team and we would just go out with the crappiest gear like some guy would use wizard robe top green hide bottoms and only use a dds with no cape or boots... Back then you just used what you had in your bank, there wasn't any grand exchange so you couldn't fill all of your equipment slots most of the time, plus that was back in the elvemage days where a guy with ice barrage and a magic shortbow was basically the king of the wild.
The production, quality, information, research time, execution and everything else that went into this video was extremely worth it!! One of the best videos I’ve watched in so long!!
Wow, thank you!!
7:47 bro is that @JoshStrifeHayes at a Old Old Runefest??
Mod Ash is a legend thats always been there for the community.
I've literally never played any form of Runescape, but I clicked this video on a whim and have binged a lot of your content over the past few days. Really well made videos about an absolutely fascinating game I somehow just completely passed by growing up. I even watched your Falador Massacre video from seven years ago and it kept me engaged from beginning to end. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!! I'm so glad to hear that :D
Mod ash is a gift to this game, he’s incredibly selfless and always try’s to help the community as much as possible. I say this all the time, jagex as a company is terrible with customer services and support but their moderators and developers are some of the best in the mmorpg industry.
When Ironman launched ash was always dealing with people requesting to be de ironed, name changes and bug fixes, he worked many late nights at the office to fix bugs (without compensation or pay). The work ethic of mod ash is very rare to find and the humility and selfless nature is very rare too.
It will be a sad day if jagex lose Ash like they lost Mod Mat K.
Mod ash is the undisputed GOAT of jagex. There are so many talented and great people at jagex, particularly the old school team, but there's something about mod ash that just resonates with people so much. I don't worry about RuneScapes future so long as him and the old school team stick around!
More proof mod ash needs a raise.
I remember the trade restriction came out when I was doing the party room all the time. I also remember getting a lot of GP at the party room even with the update and couldn’t trade my brother loot lol. Cool to see the reason behind it
My fucking hero I never met…holy shit. I’m finally getting better in osrs and I’m glad to know I always have someone to share my opinions with and they actually care about the game and community
One of the few pillars that help Jagex stay afloat, thanks Mod Ash
Ash quits, this game is going straight to the trash
there needs to be a movie made about this man some day. Hes an absolute legend.
I haven’t played RS for a few years now but I’m still sub to this channel for the nostalgia! I miss my middle school years 😢 2006-2008
jagex doesn't deserve ash, im not sure we do either. what a legend.
Bro. That video was amazing. Ash is a God among Jagex employees.
I remember when I first played Corsair curse when I came back to osrs after a long break and played w the music on and the “On the Shore” track was SO beautiful just for a random osrs quest I had to look it up on the osrs wiki and when I saw it was Ash who made the song I was gagged. He really is something else ❤
Mod Ash has earned his place as King.
with mod mat k gone, ash is all we have left who is truly for the people. love ash and love everything he's done. looking forward to the rune pouch update he's made for game jam
Is this English
@@i_keyd2rget your eyes checked, that was perfectly coherent
We appreciate you Ash! So dang much! Cheers to 20!
I have asked ashe I think 2 genuine questions, and having him answer both quite quickly and with really good info/reasoning. Always been such an amazing Mod and always had my respect. He will retire a legend one day.
Ash went rogue ? Missed alots of news😂
Now that i listen to the video i thought it was much worst then this 😂 glad he didint turned his backnon the compagny
this title is about as misleading as it could possibly be
I remember back when EoC first came out, on a certain RUclips video everyone in the comments were complaining. They were complaining, but most of what was said were genuine concerns and issues with the game. Mod Ash commented on one of them with *yawn*, I will never forget that. Never cared much for the moderators or Jagex from that point on. Even now, they have the absolute worst customer service.
I remember that update where it had infinite amount of ammo/runes that's where I bought my training runes/arrows from lol
This is the kind of passion and dedication why we love God Ash
Ash saved runescape, or rather, made the runescape we love, and prevented the runescape we hate. He really is incredibly important to the history of MMOs, and gaming as a whole.
I knew Mod Ash was such a great asset to Jagex but I had no idea the full extent of this. WOW! Mod Ash really is a genius.
Can we get an ash themed holiday event for his 20 years please
They took the original classic, the least players deserve is Oldschool Classic, just re-post the august 2007 version with no future updates, only bug fixes.
It would be dead in a month.
I, and absolutely everyone else in the Runescape community both salute and bow to Mod Ash.
Without this man, the game we know and love now would be NOTHING like what we have today.
So thankyou Ash, for absolutely everything.
P.S: Mat K also is on the same tier as Ash in my books.
One of the only ones to add Mod Mat K! I’ve been looking for this comment, he’s the reason we don’t have micro transactions in OSRS!!
Woah, I totally forgot about these articles. I remember reading the tip it articles back in the day and honestly, Mod Ash really did placate a lot of us players. His ideas always have been leaps and years ahead of where and what Jagex should be doing.
HYT
THAT WAS HIM??? Holy heck.
When did the players ever learn that it was actually Ash? I used to live on TIF back in the day and I remember seeing those posts. But it is absolutely news to me that it was actually Ash!
Ash’s mom is amazing. Both she and Ash need to be protected at all costs.
I'm sure this gets commented a lot but just wanted to say, I don't and have never really played Runescape but LOVE your videos. They're always so cozy and informative, even for a pleb like me. Keep it up :)
Also shoutout crumbfor the 3d printed figures! One of the best ideas for merch! Also another great doc from you brother! Much appreciated!
I'm so glad in australia back in the day a 13 year old could buy a card from your mail service that worked like a prepaid card.
99% sure between wow gold and my ex buying from tumblr stores that card number was very exposed
Mod Ash is the type of employee every company dreams of. His dedication and competence as well as his presentence is unmatched. You are a legend Ash.
Ash was the only mod who used to answer to me on Twitter, was amazing to see that he did take time to answer to tweets
Ash should lead up the development for a new oldschool style mmorpg. It would be legendary with his guidance.
This was one of your best videos yet imo. Loved how you told this story. ❤
The way they should have dealt with the trade limit is to have it in place for people who aren't friends, then set a time requirement for 48 hours after becoming friends with someone to remove that limit and keep the data for it stored for 7 days after becoming friends. You have 48 hours as bots are usually caught up before that, especially when generated for transferring gold, while you can also set up a system to flag accounts suddenly getting a big gold amount to it at a lower level, making bots and sellers have to risk more. If they really wanted, they could also say that the account needs to have said items / gold for 24 hours before being able to trade it again as a way to prevent it. Yeah, it's a minor inconvenience to players, but still better than the cap we got back then. Especially if bossing and meaning to give the drop to your friend, you still know your getting it. The log is to be able to track gold sales and to link accounts / mules and people purchasing the gold. Just to add a little safety to it as well, you could also set a second pin or use the bank pin to confirm trades over the regular trade limit, just for security reasons.
Thank you mod ash, for making my childhood just alittle bit better
@colonelloRS 0:35 that's me back in the day at my 99 thieving party :) Sk8forlife51, can't believe you got that clip ahaha
So interesting, back when they removed the wilderness and gatekeepered trades I was a lil kid, I didn’t understand what was going on back then and was just frustrated with the changes, it all makes sense now!
I'm surprised they would rather remove such a critical gameplay loop to the game (the wilderness), when all they had to do was make it so that there was a gold cap on what could be dropped each death. Yes it would still suck, but no where near as bad as their planned change.
Mod Ash, we thank you for your dedication to our beloved game.
Mod Ash is the reason Runescape is still a game imo. Great and passionate guy.
Got myself a kbd, was like top 15 during boss kills for the last leagues, he's my favorite boss for sure. I've been looking for figurines, I just wish I could have gotten a mole.
Ngl I think many people forget how fun early days of clan wars was
I remember FCs rising in the hierarchy within a few matches only to fall minutes later to another up and coming clan and everyone would pile on that leader and spam chat to join
Ahhh simpler times
I miss it so much
Thank you for showcasing him. Much respect to you and Mod Ash. But that EOC update still has me believing Jagex hates me ....
God Ash is way too incredible of a person, what an absolute legend!
We don't deserve God Ash
Ash is one of the true Suns of RS.
If only the rest of us could be so grossly incandescent.
question about your store, will you ever get rocky back and also do ziggy option ?
Start a go fundme for this guy. He deserves it, especially for the holidays and dedicationt to our game. What an absolute legend.
id chip in, god ash deserves it
You know Runescape wasn't the only game that had to take drastic measures to combat RMT, there was a game that had a lot of potential called Tree of Savior (Now known as Tree of Failure) where the game devs made it virtually impossible to trade with players, or gain any silver from monsters or from shops. currently the only way to gain silver is to complete the main quest from level 1 to maxed level which would only put about 40million silver in your pocket. But with the amount of money sinking mechanics in the game it totally destroyed it and everyone stopped playing it.
Nearly half a million tweets. Good lord. He went above and beyond in all ways. Mod Ash is an invaluable asset. That kind of dedication is not replaceable.
I remember the clan wars update and loved it as a kid. Clan wars was basically the only thing to do in the game lol