As always, lots of good info here. I love seeing unbiased reviews of products which is extremely unlike the drone community where bias towards one product is very prevalent. Looking forward to your next review
Great build and review! I really like all your critiques and your suggestions for improvement. I am impressed and disappointed nothing but the vrms throttled. I wonder if it is worth some future diy videos experimenting with how a smaller PSU, vrm heatsinks/fans, or even just running the computer outside of its case to compare temps would be like. Anyway, thanks for showing the emulation stuff. Side thought, this might be one of the few mini PC that can run 7 displays..? Maybe useful for some niche work. Keep up the great work!
I think I would much rather see the GPU mounted on the other side of the motherboard. It opens so many more options for dealing with size constraints. Still a great box for the price, considering you get a board, case, and power supply altogether for sub 200 in a small form factor.
I have the AMD version (X300). R7 5700X, Noctua cooler, and RX 6600 GPU. I can't tell you how loud the fan is, because I can't hear it over the ambient noise level. The most I've been able to pull out of the wall is 310W, and have yet to see a thermal throttle. I love it.
Excellent review, thanks a lot! I'm looking for balanced mini PC's with discrete graphic card, if Asrock fix some little issues, this one could be a good device. Instead the expensive and infrautilised i7, I'd install i5 even i3, a SFX PSU and a cooler a bit larger.
I guess the AMD version might be better in that way that 65W CPUs can actually reach their full potential, as their top power consumption is lower. And they don't power throttle even in the deskmini
I have the AMD version with a 5700X, and I love it. The only "downside" is that the PCIe is Gen 3, but any graphics card that will fit in the case won't max out Gen 3 anyway. So if you go the AMD route, you might as well get the 5600G/5700G with the iGPU. Paired with a 6600 or 3060, it makes a great1080p gaming setup.
@@JamieStuff If you use an APU, don't you lose some of the PCI-e lanes for the iGPU? E.g. the wifi slot or any of the m.2/sata lanes? Or there is no issues with the motherboard that ASRock provides?
My first ever DIY PC was the Asrock DeskMini X300 which I love so much. I just gave it to my son and have build the Asrock DestMeet. So far it is great! It is with AMD Ryzen 5 5600G and Corsair 32GB 3200 RAM. In the BIOS by default AUTO it opens as 2133Mhz. The BIOS version is 1.4. Is it safe to tweak it to right speed 3200Mhz? Will work OK or crash? Is there any danger in doing so? Sould I change also the voltage- Will I feel big difference between the Mhz?
It should work fine without a voltage increase. It will increase graphics performance. You won't notice in Windows, but for gaming it makes a difference.
Let's review: Doom Shirt Dad jokes and memes Confirming the exact 3060ti in my collection fits in the new Deskmini *Chef's Kiss* I will be going AMD, Already have a 5700G for it.
Hi, many thanks for your video, i've heard there is a new bios revision for the deskmeet b660. This new bios upgrade limitations of the board. Do you try it ?
Built this with a i5-12500t,16gb 3200mhz, rtx 3050. The power delivery is just fine. The i5 is 35w with power boost to 75w. And getting 17000+ in passmark beating the i7-10700....
@EffectualPoet hp tiny form factor pc. It died but now lives on. It's about 140.00 to $160ish. All performance cores. Unlike a full i5 where the tdp is plus 117w.
Reviewers on Newegg mentioned that there was inadequate cooling, even for the AMD version. I immediately thought about a possible DIY hack by using a Dremel on the front to push air to the CPU. And then I saw this 9:47 LOL. Is there a fan header on the board?
Nah, not yet mate. It's supposed to be released, but nobody seems to be stocking it. I recommend asking your favourite computer store if they can get a hold of one.
hi there, like the channel. Wondering if I want to build a gaming rigs using deskmeet what is the best configurations should I choose? Best CPU, best GPU for this? Should I go with AMD or Intel? Thanks.
GPU is easy. The EVGA XC 3060 Ti is the smallest and most powerful card that will fit. For CPU, Intel 12400 or AMD 5600 or 5700X. For me personally, the 1x M.2 slot on the AMD Deskmeet is a dealbreaker.
You might 'but why' the iGPU for gaming but it would be really useful if you wanted to use something like that as a Linux box or something else that didn't need a GPU. I could use something like that to partially replace my laptop at home if I wanted to for instance.
The "But why?" meme is in reaction that the Deskmini already does the job at a cheaper price and much smaller form factor than the Deskmeet, which is mentioned near the end. This box is too big for an iGPU build in my opinion. I use the Deskmini daily myself 👍
@@Robtech so you upgraded the PSU? Because all i knew was Deskmeet B660 only got 500watt 80+ Bronze PSU. Based on that, what's the best CPU-GPU Combo if I only wanted to use the 500w PSU that was included in the package?
Why? Who actually needs and uses Type C ports? They’re flimsy and pointless. It seems as though Type C is a solution that went looking for a problem… when none existed to begin with. Is it just because Apple thinks they’re cool?
Swap the motherboard with a good MSI one, may be Asrock should sell this unit minus the motherboard. Can be a great SFF homelab hypervisor machine with I5 12400.
It's a "long" mITX board. I haven't checked the mounting holes, but if you do fit a standard mITX board in there, you're going to lose the front panel connectivity. Those connectors are mounted onto the motherboard.
@@EGK20 I can't keep up with all the random tech names people are building computers for these days. Who the heck needs an ABC Methlab Hyperventilator at home?
The whole point of a custom build is...to custom build it. Why buy this when it restricts your choices for PSU, CPU, CPU cooler, and GPU? Doesn't make sense. Plus it doesn't come with wifi like 99% of motherboards do. The low price tag starts to look less appealing when you consider all the sacrifices being made. Also, I thought humanity agreed to not pay for proprietary components unless they served some innovative and necessary purpose?
It’s a barebone pc, you just need to buy processor, ram and storage (and gpu if you need it) The sacrifices that you mentioned is considered a good thing here, the target audience for this product is differrent from custom pc One example is, a company buying multiple pc for their office but need a certain processor / ram requirement that prebuilt pc doesn’t offer, it really helps the IT team to order less part and build it faster If you want to custom build your own pc, there are a lot of other cases out there, and this is definitely not one od them
I do agree about the proprietary components tho, I feel like ASrock could’ve just used off the shelf components for better compatibility and repairability
As always, lots of good info here. I love seeing unbiased reviews of products which is extremely unlike the drone community where bias towards one product is very prevalent. Looking forward to your next review
Love the shenanigans Rob. Great video
Great build and review! I really like all your critiques and your suggestions for improvement. I am impressed and disappointed nothing but the vrms throttled. I wonder if it is worth some future diy videos experimenting with how a smaller PSU, vrm heatsinks/fans, or even just running the computer outside of its case to compare temps would be like. Anyway, thanks for showing the emulation stuff.
Side thought, this might be one of the few mini PC that can run 7 displays..? Maybe useful for some niche work.
Keep up the great work!
I think I would much rather see the GPU mounted on the other side of the motherboard. It opens so many more options for dealing with size constraints. Still a great box for the price, considering you get a board, case, and power supply altogether for sub 200 in a small form factor.
I've been wondering whether this Evga 3060ti can fit in it or not until now! Nice video, thank you!
I have the AMD version (X300). R7 5700X, Noctua cooler, and RX 6600 GPU. I can't tell you how loud the fan is, because I can't hear it over the ambient noise level. The most I've been able to pull out of the wall is 310W, and have yet to see a thermal throttle. I love it.
Nice. Good combo.
I was considering X300 version, but it's a MB with PCIe 3.0 and some modern cards could lose some performance. A new x500 Deskmeet could be great.
What version of the RX 6600 I might go that route
@@rjvicious3317 The Powercolor Rx 6600 is 200mm and will fit perfect
Asrock does really good small form stuff.
they also the only company who make ITX board that can use EPYC cpu
Omg yee I waited for this video
great review mate 👍👊
Thank you!
like your review, great video mate 🙂
Excellent review, thanks a lot!
I'm looking for balanced mini PC's with discrete graphic card, if Asrock fix some little issues, this one could be a good device. Instead the expensive and infrautilised i7, I'd install i5 even i3, a SFX PSU and a cooler a bit larger.
I guess the AMD version might be better in that way that 65W CPUs can actually reach their full potential, as their top power consumption is lower. And they don't power throttle even in the deskmini
Hoping to get the AMD variant to test
It's considerably CHEAPER TOO...
I have the AMD version with a 5700X, and I love it. The only "downside" is that the PCIe is Gen 3, but any graphics card that will fit in the case won't max out Gen 3 anyway. So if you go the AMD route, you might as well get the 5600G/5700G with the iGPU. Paired with a 6600 or 3060, it makes a great1080p gaming setup.
@@JamieStuff If you use an APU, don't you lose some of the PCI-e lanes for the iGPU? E.g. the wifi slot or any of the m.2/sata lanes? Or there is no issues with the motherboard that ASRock provides?
My first ever DIY PC was the Asrock DeskMini X300 which I love so much. I just gave it to my son and have build the Asrock DestMeet. So far it is great!
It is with AMD Ryzen 5 5600G and Corsair 32GB 3200 RAM. In the BIOS by default AUTO it opens as 2133Mhz. The BIOS version is 1.4. Is it safe to tweak it to right speed 3200Mhz? Will work OK or crash? Is there any danger in doing so? Sould I change also the voltage-
Will I feel big difference between the Mhz?
It should work fine without a voltage increase. It will increase graphics performance. You won't notice in Windows, but for gaming it makes a difference.
Great review! 5:00, I wonder if the CPU would still be power throttling without the GPU installed
Yes, I also have the habbit to slide in big things in small things where they might not belong.. I feel you bro.
Good stuff.
12400f (with the noctua cooler) and rx6600 works like a charm.
Thinking about switching to the 13500 though.
An update is due with a 200mm 4060 Ti. Kudos
Top quality vids man, betterer than Linus 😅
Let's review:
Doom Shirt
Dad jokes and memes
Confirming the exact 3060ti in my collection fits in the new Deskmini
*Chef's Kiss*
I will be going AMD, Already have a 5700G for it.
Using the Intel stock cooler is a sin... for your ears and that good CPU
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Nice review 👍... Please provide power consumption...
8:18 it is in the video description
* - To support 125W CPUs, please install CPU water cooler and adjust the CHA_Fan1/WP mode to Water Pump under BIOS.
where, with a dgpu there's no where to put it.
@@dwaynestimpson5449 use custom sfx psu
Pretty cool.
if i manage to find one , i plan to use asrock rx6600xt challenger itx. Sapphire pulse rx6600 and Sapphire nitro rx6600xt will fit also.
Will it fit with gigabyte rtx 4060 windforce oc 192/7,6 inches?
Hi, many thanks for your video, i've heard there is a new bios revision for the deskmeet b660. This new bios upgrade limitations of the board. Do you try it ?
The new BIOS update just adds support for 13th generation Intel CPUs.
Built this with a i5-12500t,16gb 3200mhz, rtx 3050. The power delivery is just fine. The i5 is 35w with power boost to 75w. And getting 17000+ in passmark beating the i7-10700....
Where do you even buy a T processor these days? Did you get ripped off on ebay on an OEM part?
@EffectualPoet hp tiny form factor pc. It died but now lives on. It's about 140.00 to $160ish. All performance cores. Unlike a full i5 where the tdp is plus 117w.
how are the temps when doing heavier workload?
Reviewers on Newegg mentioned that there was inadequate cooling, even for the AMD version. I immediately thought about a possible DIY hack by using a Dremel on the front to push air to the CPU. And then I saw this 9:47 LOL. Is there a fan header on the board?
yes, it has 2 fan headers but even if it didn't you could use a splitter
Hey Rob, I have an EVGA 2060 KO Ultra Gaming that comes in at 202.1 mm. Do you think there is room in the case to squeeze just 3 more mm in?
It's such a small difference I would think yes. But hard to know without trying it.
@@Robtech Thanks for the reply. Reckon I'll have to give it a go then. Hopefully I am as skilled as you at shoving big things in small places!
I'm looking to build this with an i5 12400F. I've got a GTX 1650 LP in another PC that i'll use for now. Which SFX PSU would you recommend?
I've used Corsair, Coolermaster and Silverstone SFX PSUs. They're all good units.
Hey mate, have you heard any further news of an Australian release date? Thanks
Nah, not yet mate. It's supposed to be released, but nobody seems to be stocking it. I recommend asking your favourite computer store if they can get a hold of one.
Will a dual fan gigabyte rtx 2060 fit?
how much fps does it run on battle royale games like fortnite or apex legends
is the power supply like PSU sfx?
No, included PSU is ATX with reversed fan.
hi there, like the channel. Wondering if I want to build a gaming rigs using deskmeet what is the best configurations should I choose? Best CPU, best GPU for this? Should I go with AMD or Intel? Thanks.
GPU is easy. The EVGA XC 3060 Ti is the smallest and most powerful card that will fit. For CPU, Intel 12400 or AMD 5600 or 5700X. For me personally, the 1x M.2 slot on the AMD Deskmeet is a dealbreaker.
@@Robtech So I guess i5 intel 12400 + B660 running EVGA XC 3060ti is the best setup?
@@Robtech but yours had 2 NVME slots @ 3:50 . I'm so confused 😂 Mine only has 1 on the inside
does it support CEC?
I want more performance with lower power. Watts= heat
You might 'but why' the iGPU for gaming but it would be really useful if you wanted to use something like that as a Linux box or something else that didn't need a GPU. I could use something like that to partially replace my laptop at home if I wanted to for instance.
The "But why?" meme is in reaction that the Deskmini already does the job at a cheaper price and much smaller form factor than the Deskmeet, which is mentioned near the end. This box is too big for an iGPU build in my opinion. I use the Deskmini daily myself 👍
^
I need explaination here..
We only got 500 watt 80+ Bronze power supply, how does an i7-12700f + RTX 3060 Ti run at 500watt PSU? Undervolting?
That combo doesn't use 500 watts.
@@Robtech so you upgraded the PSU? Because all i knew was Deskmeet B660 only got 500watt 80+ Bronze PSU.
Based on that, what's the best CPU-GPU Combo if I only wanted to use the 500w PSU that was included in the package?
I used the PSU it came with. The CPU and GPU I had didn't use 500W.
@@Robtech i thought 12700f has PL2 TDP at 180watt? Or i assume you didn't activate PL2?
It's in the video. Doesn't run anywhere near that. Motherboard can barely handle PL1. It's a cheap board.
Should i change the PSU to sfx for more cooling or just use their PSU with Noctua NH-L9i-17xx is good enough ? Thanks
Try with the Noctua first and monitor your temps. Might be good enough depending on the config.
How did it go with the noctua?
I used an Rx 6600 I got at my local microcenter for $229
any reason why inter version have 2 m.2 and amd has 1 : ( ?
Maybe a chipset limitation for this board...that's disappointing
Is there a slot for a wifi module?
1 x M.2 Key-E for Wi-Fi www.asrock.com/nettop/Intel/DeskMeet%20B660%20Series/index.asp#Overview
Could I replace the motherboard, if it is broken?????
It's custom, so unlikely. I didn't get a chance to try any other ITX boards to see if they would fit (screw mounts might be a problem).
@@Robtech owgh ok thank you sir 🙏
Will it fit with zotac rtx 4070?
No chance
Has anyone here tried to use the NH-L9i in this case? I have both the case and cooler infront of me and can’t seem to get it to fit…
Won't fit. You need the NH-L9i-17XX.
Arctic alpine 17 lp. 13500
Crazy that the vast majority of the ports are USB-A. At this point, the majority of the ports should be USB-C with 2 - 4 USB-A ports for old tech.
It may be a while before more devices like portable USB HDDs and USB flash drives switch from a USB-A to a USB-C connector.
Why? Who actually needs and uses Type C ports? They’re flimsy and pointless. It seems as though Type C is a solution that went looking for a problem… when none existed to begin with. Is it just because Apple thinks they’re cool?
@@byteme0000 They are a replacement for micro USB, which break if you look at them wrong.
Swap the motherboard with a good MSI one, may be Asrock should sell this unit minus the motherboard. Can be a great SFF homelab hypervisor machine with I5 12400.
It's custom, so unlikely anything else will fit unfortunately.
it is already barebone pc..without mobo what is left just pc case..
It's a "long" mITX board. I haven't checked the mounting holes, but if you do fit a standard mITX board in there, you're going to lose the front panel connectivity. Those connectors are mounted onto the motherboard.
@@EGK20 I can't keep up with all the random tech names people are building computers for these days. Who the heck needs an ABC Methlab Hyperventilator at home?
The whole point of a custom build is...to custom build it. Why buy this when it restricts your choices for PSU, CPU, CPU cooler, and GPU? Doesn't make sense. Plus it doesn't come with wifi like 99% of motherboards do. The low price tag starts to look less appealing when you consider all the sacrifices being made. Also, I thought humanity agreed to not pay for proprietary components unless they served some innovative and necessary purpose?
Calm down deary.
@@philiptownsend4026 What makes you think I'm not calm?
It’s a barebone pc, you just need to buy processor, ram and storage (and gpu if you need it)
The sacrifices that you mentioned is considered a good thing here, the target audience for this product is differrent from custom pc
One example is, a company buying multiple pc for their office but need a certain processor / ram requirement that prebuilt pc doesn’t offer, it really helps the IT team to order less part and build it faster
If you want to custom build your own pc, there are a lot of other cases out there, and this is definitely not one od them
I do agree about the proprietary components tho, I feel like ASrock could’ve just used off the shelf components for better compatibility and repairability
Because smol
Wonderful... I been wondering... 🤌...