Cool!! I remember how Fred Wolf would say, whenever he announced a match with your great-granddad, that he had 99 perfect games. I wondered (and still wonder) if he ever got that 100th. I sure hope he did.
Hearing "Whispering" Joe Wilson again after 65 years is a trip for me. In the 1960s I saw Joe Wilson selling men's suits at a clothing store on Michigan Ave. in Chicago.
I used to love "Championship Bowling" when I was a kid. It always came on after the 10 pm news. I got into bowling back in the 60s when everything was real -- hard rubber balls and wooden pins and alleys. Those were the days indeed!
@Carrie Zhu one could go into the bar in the bowling allies and have a drink in a very quite atmosphere. No screeching new age computer tiny bopper music like today, A much more mature society back then...
I practiced with Buddy Bomar at Brunswick Deerbrook Lanes in Deerfield Illinois when I was a jr bowler, he was quite elderly then but still threw it great, what a super nice guy, ambassador of the sport, talked and helped everyone
I feel like these old telecasts really discredit critics of today's game for being a bunch of crankers that couldn't hit an arrow, while the legends of yesteryear were pure men of accurate stroking. Look at Salvino, no doubt a legend, get that back swing way up there, torque his hand to the inside of the ball, and unleash it upon the pins. There's a power style if I've ever seen one. Throughout the history of bowling, we've had power players and strokers, both winning their fair share of titles. The only difference nowadays is that the equipment really shows the difference between the two on a level much greater than previous eras.
YES! Was about to comment how the commentary is great.. he's just so real, reactions and everything. As a new englander who loves candlepin, I've been really enjoying all the history of Ten pin on youtube. This is great
Dennis Hanovich I grew up with wood lanes surfaced with lacquer, throwing those rubber balls, bowling alleys so filled with cigarette smoke you couldn’t see the pins and most guys gassed on beer and booze. I’ll take today’s equipment and conditions over the “old stuff” any day.
I watched Championship Bowling from when I was probably four years old - a couple of years after this broadcast. (And I'm 68 years old now!) Watching this was like being in King Tut's grave. Pinboys! The ball rack way over in the next county!! Random thoughts: How I miss Fred Wolf, the announcer I grew up with (and enjoyed)! "Whispering" Joe Wilson, huh? Looks like he bought Groucho glasses from somewhere cheap. And his announcing - oy! "Railroads" (for splits). And "Holy Mackarel!" every time there was an off-target shot. I remember the bowlers, Carmen ("Carmie"? Ugh!) Salvino and Buddy Bomar. So I guess I've seen Salvino "grow up" right before my eyes. He was 19 years old and gangly here, and got to see him a bit more filled out, at about maybe 30-40 years later. I don't remember his backswing being that high when he got older. But he was awfully good at both ends of his career. This was some education here, telling you!
Carmen had to make changes to remain competitive as he aged and a new wave of bowling balls were introduced to the market. The kind of finishes that were applied to the lanes has gone through a never ending evolution.
Bomar ripping the racks constantly on the left lane. Salvino's hand release is great! Actually reminds me of Eugene McCune throwing all that heat on the ball.
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You can tell this is a very old bowling alley when they have the pin boys removing the "dead wood". The ball is returned manually. And the pinspotter is also loaded and set manually.
An excellent match. Even up to the end, it was pretty dramatic, and you never thought Salvino was going to the leave the 8-10. But he was throwing bullets all day. He just got a bit fast on that last one. Regardless of the four camera set up and the black abd white broadcast, this was a lot fo fun to watch. Do you know what the format was back then in selecting the bowlers every week?
Human pin-setters!! Wow..and the screw up on the score in the 2nd frame. And the tiny audience.. Carmen Salvino would have around 20 in this film. but fundamentals look the same. When did the high fiving start? The 80's? Also for those who didn't know this era may wonder why the +1 under the score when the difference was. Rather than keeping track of pins, they kept track of # of marks ahead or behind. Awesome video.. where do you find these gems?
What's the deal with the 10th frame.. it looks like you had to keep striking to keep throwing all 3 balls.. one of the frames, one of them spared and he didn't get the third ball? Is that it?
So.....Salvino used to be called CARMIE? :-) :-) :-) I've been a big fan of his forever, and started seeing him just a few years after this -- and never heard him called anything but Carmen (or sometimes "Carm").
it doesn't look there is any oil on the lanes at all. they're probably using a mineralite or manhatten rubber or some other rock and the ball is still hooking pretty good!!
@@irishpogi thanks for the information. Did you hear that the Southport Lanes in Chicago was closed down Sunday, October 27, 2020? Manual lanes (4) first opened in 1902. Sad.
That’s a fair criticism. You can’t lengthen a bowling lane like you can a golf fairway. That said I think modern technique is superior, and I’m not talking just two handers.
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The announcer was great to listen to. Thanks for the upload it was great to see
Buddy Bomar is my Great-Grandfather! Beyond cool to get to see him play, even though I never got the chance to meet him.
He was one of the best bowlers from his era.
Cool!! I remember how Fred Wolf would say, whenever he announced a match with your great-granddad, that he had 99 perfect games. I wondered (and still wonder) if he ever got that 100th. I sure hope he did.
He's my grandfather. I suppose we're family that hasn't met. How do you trace back to Buddy?
He was a legend in the day.
Hearing "Whispering" Joe Wilson again after 65 years is a trip for me. In the 1960s I saw Joe Wilson selling men's suits at a clothing store on Michigan Ave. in Chicago.
I used to love "Championship Bowling" when I was a kid. It always came on after the 10 pm news. I got into bowling back in the 60s when everything was real -- hard rubber balls and wooden pins and alleys. Those were the days indeed!
@Carrie Zhu one could go into the bar in the bowling allies and have a drink in a very quite atmosphere. No screeching new age computer tiny bopper music like today, A much more mature society back then...
Interesting to see actual pin setters. Of course i was only a year old in 54. Enjoyed this.
Down here in south Texas, we have what's called "Texas 9 Pin."
We still use human pin setters as well. We keep the old traditional bowling alive.
Salvino still bowls and is often in the front row of the audience for PBA finals and is still as entertaining. Long may it remain!
I practiced with Buddy Bomar at Brunswick Deerbrook Lanes in Deerfield Illinois when I was a jr bowler, he was quite elderly then but still threw it great, what a super nice guy, ambassador of the sport, talked and helped everyone
when I was a kid I remember watching this....SO COOL that its on a YOU TUBE video...
Great Video.
Love Carmen ,still see him today, great guy!
I feel like these old telecasts really discredit critics of today's game for being a bunch of crankers that couldn't hit an arrow, while the legends of yesteryear were pure men of accurate stroking. Look at Salvino, no doubt a legend, get that back swing way up there, torque his hand to the inside of the ball, and unleash it upon the pins. There's a power style if I've ever seen one. Throughout the history of bowling, we've had power players and strokers, both winning their fair share of titles. The only difference nowadays is that the equipment really shows the difference between the two on a level much greater than previous eras.
Absolutely right. Salvino is ripping the cover off the ball. Today’s players are no less accurate than yesterday’s.
As a kid I wanted to be that score keeper SO BAD!
Love the commentary!!! Now we know where Mike Fagan's arm swing was invented. Carmy had it first.
YES! Was about to comment how the commentary is great.. he's just so real, reactions and everything. As a new englander who loves candlepin, I've been really enjoying all the history of Ten pin on youtube. This is great
To think: Salvino started winning tournaments at 19( prior to this showing)
and won his last one at 45 in 1979- 17 in all
Carmen bowled again February 2020 at the TOC in Ohio! He's 86 now!
"Gee whiz, I thought he was gonna break those pins, didn't you?" Love it.
These pins even sound heavy.
Today's lanes...plastic pins and synthetic surfaces. Ain't the same folks. Miss the old days. I'm all for automatic pinsetters, though.
everything is fake today, even society...Its like something dead
Dennis Hanovich I grew up with wood lanes surfaced with lacquer, throwing those rubber balls, bowling alleys so filled with cigarette smoke you couldn’t see the pins and most guys gassed on beer and booze. I’ll take today’s equipment and conditions over the “old stuff” any day.
Excellent, very exciting bowling.
Ah, yes! Vintage bowling 🎳 at it’s finest!
Note the pin boys
i like how they don't fool around and just bowl
Yep. No jumping up and down. No fist pumping. No outlandish outfits. No yelling and screaming. Just great bowling.
I watched Championship Bowling from when I was probably four years old - a couple of years after this broadcast. (And I'm 68 years old now!) Watching this was like being in King Tut's grave. Pinboys! The ball rack way over in the next county!!
Random thoughts: How I miss Fred Wolf, the announcer I grew up with (and enjoyed)! "Whispering" Joe Wilson, huh? Looks like he bought Groucho glasses from somewhere cheap. And his announcing - oy! "Railroads" (for splits). And "Holy Mackarel!" every time there was an off-target shot.
I remember the bowlers, Carmen ("Carmie"? Ugh!) Salvino and Buddy Bomar. So I guess I've seen Salvino "grow up" right before my eyes. He was 19 years old and gangly here, and got to see him a bit more filled out, at about maybe 30-40 years later. I don't remember his backswing being that high when he got older. But he was awfully good at both ends of his career.
This was some education here, telling you!
Carmen had to make changes to remain competitive as he aged and a new wave of bowling balls were introduced to the market. The kind of finishes that were applied to the lanes has gone through a never ending evolution.
@@irishpogi Makes sense. Thanks!
U would have loved to bowl in that era
Bomar ripping the racks constantly on the left lane.
Salvino's hand release is great! Actually reminds me of Eugene McCune throwing all that heat on the ball.
And a half minute into resetting pins they are still waiting to see if the messenger slowly rolls over! 17:01
Notice that the ball return is to the left of the pair and not between the lanes.
+Don Theis still a center in detroit that has returns like this. Garden Bowl.
Southport Lanes in Chicago has same and just 4 lanes all manual pinsetters!
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You can tell this is a very old bowling alley when they have the pin boys removing the "dead wood".
The ball is returned manually. And the pinspotter is also loaded and set manually.
Where I grew up Buddy Bowmar lived on our block,Kirwood ave in Sauganash Il a suberb of Chicagos north west side ,he and his wife were quiet people
I remember you. Bonnie bomar
I thought Fred was announcing lol. This announcer is hilarious 😅
An excellent match. Even up to the end, it was pretty dramatic, and you never thought Salvino was going to the leave the 8-10. But he was throwing bullets all day. He just got a bit fast on that last one. Regardless of the four camera set up and the black abd white broadcast, this was a lot fo fun to watch.
Do you know what the format was back then in selecting the bowlers every week?
Human pin-setters!! Wow..and the screw up on the score in the 2nd frame. And the tiny audience.. Carmen Salvino would have around 20 in this film.
but fundamentals look the same. When did the high fiving start? The 80's? Also for those who didn't know this era may wonder why the +1 under the score when the difference was. Rather than keeping track of pins, they kept track of # of marks ahead or behind. Awesome video.. where do you find these gems?
What's the deal with the 10th frame.. it looks like you had to keep striking to keep throwing all 3 balls.. one of the frames, one of them spared and he didn't get the third ball? Is that it?
So.....Salvino used to be called CARMIE? :-) :-) :-) I've been a big fan of his forever, and started seeing him just a few years after this -- and never heard him called anything but Carmen (or sometimes "Carm").
Back when America was great! MAGA
Wow, I don’t remember Mr. Salvino having such a high backswing, and without opening up his shoulder on top of it.
He was 20 years old here and he was the power player of his era.
Bowling pins are NOT made of plastic. They have a plastic coating.
The new pins (made in Germany) ARE all plastic. They are also a bit bottom heavy.
This can't be from 1954; Joe Wilson at 30:30 says "he shot 276 in 1958," unless he meant 1948.
it doesn't look there is any oil on the lanes at all. they're probably using a mineralite or manhatten rubber or some other rock and the ball is still hooking pretty good!!
let's go, Bomar!
No messengers back then
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They're hooking the ball more then I thought.
I thought that too!!!
it's because they didnt flood the lanes with oil. they just had a small film to protect the wood
Way to go, Dad
I assume Fred Wolf succeeded Joe Wilson as commentator?
eddiejk1 Joe went on to host AA STAR BOWLING BASED IN CHICAGO AS HE AS AND MANY PROS INCUDING SALVINO AND BOMAR.
What bowling ally was this at ?
Good question. I'll ask Carmen when I see him or talk with him on the phone.
@@bobfishnut The old Faetz-Nieson Recreation Center that's no longer standing.
@@irishpogi thanks for the information. Did you hear that the Southport Lanes in Chicago was closed down Sunday, October 27, 2020? Manual lanes (4) first opened in 1902. Sad.
Blah blah, I miss the old days. This is awesome to watch, but don't hate on the modern technology just 'cause this makes you nostalgic.
Today`s technology makes it too damn easy to score well
That’s a fair criticism. You can’t lengthen a bowling lane like you can a golf fairway. That said I think modern technique is superior, and I’m not talking just two handers.