it's truly astounding that Intel was on the verge of having a true x86 monopoly and had AMD nearly dead and in 10 years, we are talking about them filing bankruptcy/restructure
Main Street capitalism is different than Wall Street capitalism; Main Street works toward building a better mousetrap at a lower price with an eye towards reaching monopoly. Wall Street capitalism is against Main Street capitalism because the customer is the investor, not the buyer of the mousetrap. it sacrifices the company’s cost structure, and product reliability, quality and next generation products to maximize short term investor profits. This includes stock buybacks and ultimately throwing everyone else under the bus (employees, pensioners, customers, and suppliers who are owed money). two big problems … first; top management and hedge fund/pension fund managers are all rewarded based on short term paper profits. This motivates them to sacrifice everything in order to improve the numbers Wall Street cares about. They all get huge bonuses for meeting short term gains but suffer no consequences for destroying the long term future of the company. Second problem; “the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules”. The legal & financial system is set up to facilitate this betrayal of Main Street by top management and fund managers who make literal billions for themselves with no consequences for the long term destruction they caused. It’s the big money that influences, media, regulatory agencies, and Law makers. This means the whole system can not fix itself.
I'm sure that ARM64 will be great for general personal computing, but for pure number crunching I am not interested in ARM until it can outperform X86-64 in floating-point math.
finally someone talks about the manufacturing behind is NOT the only problem Intel has. Intel's biggest income resource is from x86 CPU and server business. But its X86 market is that safe?? From what i know.. there are at least TWO teams working with TSMC to build ARM base CPU. ( that is why Pat came to Lisa Su to make a X86 team few weeks ago ) btw, today's news. the current co-CEOs start to talk about split off. they are open to talk about it.
Intel doesn't need an engineer to run their company they need a person that is a good marketing strategist to run the company. That good marketing strategist will then put the necessary pieces in place to run the company successfully.
Non-engineering board members are what’s hurting most engineering companies today. There really should be legislation to prevent short-term hungry bean counters from messing with companies that are DoD affiliated, or at least make them hold their shares for much longer.
Now that Intel has given up on chip manufacturing technology, who is left in the US to take their place? Micron, but they are focused on memory which is a leap from other chip products. To me it looks like the BoD short circuited the opportunity to get as much support as necessary from the government who makes it high priority to keep this technology alive in the US. Not only did the board pull the rug out from under Gelsinger & Intel as a tech company, they blindsided the US government sees this critical industry & technology as vital.
It’s all Microsoft’s fault. Didn’t develop winDOS to be portable to other architectures. Apple adopting Steve Jobs’ NeXT as basis for OSX allowed them to migrate from Intel to PPC to Intel to Apple Silicon. Apple can jump to the best architecture out there while Microsoft forces Intel to remain on x86.
"Qualcomm quality?" x86 dead? I dunno what universe you guys are in but xelite was a big nothingburger flop in the one I'm in. Maybe Intel should be worried about the arm laptop nvidia is working on, but they pretty conclusively showed with Lunar Lake vs xelite that for now there isn't anything particularly so magical about arm that x86 can't compete.
@twit communication is between equals. From my side was no offensive language delivered but quoted and put a questionmark. I believe you confuse me with this protagonist of the video since the term the first speaker used himself was questionable and aggressive. I was only mirroring him, questioning the kind of language he used. There is no personal offensive expression directed at all but questioned. Read again and you will confirm that I questioned the knowledge AND the aggressive language I was confronted with by having watched the video. Your critique is misdirected. I reject it. But yes, it is your channel and feel free to act as you please. I hope my edit clarifies it.
On the moment when that guy tell me in 5 years x86 is gone i stopped watching this . Im sorry but if you ask a kid on the streat that question is not going to give that answerer. have nice life
When I saw the M1 specs more than 4 years ago, I knew Intel was done
Exactly
Apple Silicon revolutionized the industry there’s no doubt about that.
@ I hate you username I am hungry now :(
@koenignero lol
it's truly astounding that Intel was on the verge of having a true x86 monopoly and had AMD nearly dead and in 10 years, we are talking about them filing bankruptcy/restructure
Sorry guys, good insights, but your talking over each other was too annoying.
They really need to work on this.
Couldn’t agree more
@bzzboyrc7253 ...'talking over each other' is the nature of the beast.
@@twit I love your stuff but this was worse than usual. I had to stop watching.
Linux on Arm works great, especially on SystemReady compliant platforms
What Linux distro works on Snapdragon X Elite? Is there any distro?
Main Street capitalism is different than Wall Street capitalism; Main Street works toward building a better mousetrap at a lower price with an eye towards reaching monopoly. Wall Street capitalism is against Main Street capitalism because the customer is the investor, not the buyer of the mousetrap. it sacrifices the company’s cost structure, and product reliability, quality and next generation products to maximize short term investor profits. This includes stock buybacks and ultimately throwing everyone else under the bus (employees, pensioners, customers, and suppliers who are owed money).
two big problems … first; top management and hedge fund/pension fund managers are all rewarded based on short term paper profits. This motivates them to sacrifice everything in order to improve the numbers Wall Street cares about. They all get huge bonuses for meeting short term gains but suffer no consequences for destroying the long term future of the company. Second problem; “the golden rule, he who has the gold makes the rules”. The legal & financial system is set up to facilitate this betrayal of Main Street by top management and fund managers who make literal billions for themselves with no consequences for the long term destruction they caused. It’s the big money that influences, media, regulatory agencies, and Law makers. This means the whole system can not fix itself.
I'm sure that ARM64 will be great for general personal computing, but for pure number crunching I am not interested in ARM until it can outperform X86-64 in floating-point math.
finally someone talks about the manufacturing behind is NOT the only problem Intel has.
Intel's biggest income resource is from x86 CPU and server business.
But its X86 market is that safe??
From what i know.. there are at least TWO teams working with TSMC to build ARM base CPU.
( that is why Pat came to Lisa Su to make a X86 team few weeks ago )
btw, today's news. the current co-CEOs start to talk about split off. they are open to talk about it.
I still think Intel had a chance
Intel doesn't need an engineer to run their company they need a person that is a good marketing strategist to run the company. That good marketing strategist will then put the necessary pieces in place to run the company successfully.
FYI: Intel is a licensee of the AMD-64 architecture, not the owner.
Non-engineering board members are what’s hurting most engineering companies today. There really should be legislation to prevent short-term hungry bean counters from messing with companies that are DoD affiliated, or at least make them hold their shares for much longer.
Now that Intel has given up on chip manufacturing technology, who is left in the US to take their place? Micron, but they are focused on memory which is a leap from other chip products. To me it looks like the BoD short circuited the opportunity to get as much support as necessary from the government who makes it high priority to keep this technology alive in the US.
Not only did the board pull the rug out from under Gelsinger & Intel as a tech company, they blindsided the US government sees this critical industry & technology as vital.
Came here for Leo. Not enough Leo.
Correction, Tim Cook is an Industrial Engineer.
It’s all Microsoft’s fault. Didn’t develop winDOS to be portable to other architectures. Apple adopting Steve Jobs’ NeXT as basis for OSX allowed them to migrate from Intel to PPC to Intel to Apple Silicon. Apple can jump to the best architecture out there while Microsoft forces Intel to remain on x86.
X86 is not going away but Intel will be gone within a decade.
I think Paul is fun to listen to, but wish he wouldn't talk over others. Please let other people speak - completely!
The contentiousness between Paul & Richard was off-putting.
"How much for everything?" - Nvidia.
"Qualcomm quality?" x86 dead? I dunno what universe you guys are in but xelite was a big nothingburger flop in the one I'm in. Maybe Intel should be worried about the arm laptop nvidia is working on, but they pretty conclusively showed with Lunar Lake vs xelite that for now there isn't anything particularly so magical about arm that x86 can't compete.
How is it in any way a problem when x86 goes away?
"...Nostradamus"? "...Non engineer id...ts"? You mean Wozniak should have led Apple?
@twit communication is between equals. From my side was no offensive language delivered but quoted and put a questionmark. I believe you confuse me with this protagonist of the video since the term the first speaker used himself was questionable and aggressive. I was only mirroring him, questioning the kind of language he used. There is no personal offensive expression directed at all but questioned. Read again and you will confirm that I questioned the knowledge AND the aggressive language I was confronted with by having watched the video. Your critique is misdirected. I reject it. But yes, it is your channel and feel free to act as you please. I hope my edit clarifies it.
5 years from now apple will be buying nvidia chips and amd cpus and I will laugh at your grave
apple will not succeed.
On the moment when that guy tell me in 5 years x86 is gone i stopped watching this . Im sorry but if you ask a kid on the streat that question is not going to give that answerer. have nice life