First time I’ve seen somebody go in depth like this into what it’s actually like to own one of these outside of just banging gears fast, love the insight!
Good video keep it up, i got a ppg dog box in my evo kinda scared too street drive it since i want to it last and its not cheap to fix lol maybe ill just send it see how long it does last, maybe make a video on it cause theres not much information on dogboxs / street driving / long jevity kinda, im sure it'll be fine tho since i know how to drive an probably wont beat on it to hard for a while till i get a lil more comfortable with the dogbox. Probably not gonna no lift to shift to save my dogs 😂 maybe some day tho lol just more curious on how long they last im sure if you dont totally beat on it itll fine/last but also have heard they last about half the life of a normal synchronize transmission guess we'll see haha
could you please describe the experience with daily driving a dog box in a evo, because I'm also thinking about having an evo 9 with a dog box, but I don't know if I should daily drive it or no, in terms of costs and reliability
i have a Dog in my evo 9 - i have never driven dog in my life... it is definitely a change to your driving habit. sync boxes make life so much easier and im talking about normal driving and commuting. What alot of people dont talk about dogboxes is the intent of the shifting while driving. This video describes its really well in terms of shifting, how shifting behaviors are at low or high speed. I struggle with downshifting as input shaft speed / RPM matters when matching gears. when you get used to normal driving its actually just as the video describes its really nice to drive / easy to commute minus the race car sounds.
HI! I also drive a dog box in my Ford Escort Cosworth. I installed it three years ago and the first time I made a gear change while accelerating I was in disbelief at its speed. My car is not a racing one but a road one. It's not easy to use it like a synchromesh and you always have to know what you're doing, you always have to be focused and that's why it's wonderful! Going slowly, I use a different technique to change up: I press the clutch, move the gear lever to neutral and wait an instant for the primary shaft to slow down, then quickly engage the higher gear; this way three times out of four you don't even hear your teeth chattering. To downshift, always when I'm going slowly, I instead do the classic one-two punch to match the revs: down the clutch, gear lever in neutral, up the clutch, hit the accelerator, down the clutch and engage a lower gear; even so you can downshift without any teeth chattering. When going fast, however, I always use the clutch and engage the gears, both up and down, as quickly as possible: I tried to do the flat gear shift without the clutch but it doesn't feel instinctive and it makes the car make a lot of jolts!😟 At the time everyone told me not to install it because it is a gearbox that is unusable on the road and that those few who had installed it after a few months had removed it out of desperation, but I was too eager to try it and so after a year of evaluations I I got it and have been using it ever since and have never regretted it and will never go back to synchromesh again! If you are a mechanical fanatic, if you don't care about comfort, if you enjoy dominating your car, if you are willing to make some small sacrifices then the dog box is the best gearbox in the world! 😃 It's the only one capable of making you feel like an active part of your car! I am 100% convinced of my choice and I wonder why the manufacturers don't install it directly on very sporty cars, perhaps as an optional extra. Those who speak badly of the dog box are simply because they have never used it and speak from hearsay; 🤫🤐they are not really passionate about mechanics and want everything to be easy, without commitment, without understanding how things work, without making any sacrifices... they are the right customers for electric cars!😉
WTF. You have to be a troll, no one is this clueless. You spent big money so you now are shifting SLOWER and HARDER to shift, you are doing up and down slower DOUBLE CLUTCHING. You say you always use clutch up and down, holy hell, the whole advantage is shifting fast WITHOUT the clutch. You cannot just FLAT SHIFT(if u even know what that is, lol) just because its a dog box....You need to add electronics such as ignition cut and pressure sensor. Please tell me you made up that story, I can't believe your wack story. Re-watch this video 20x, for heavens sake.
Thanks for covering longevity some. Im sure it depends on where you source the parts from but ive always been considered about durability and maintenance. A lot of contradictory and bad info out there around these.
Idk how I got here but since I’m doing the whole “I’m mid 30s year old with home ownership issues” and zero projects of my own at moment I’m here to stay for show now😅🫡 great content sir
How many miles have you had this dog box for? How long do you expect it to last? Also, what's the plan when you do have to rebuild the gears (if you do have to do it)
Bit clunky and oldschool compared to current trans swaps. 8hp trans is what everyones swapping to now. Smooth fast and holds power. Can be driven with a clutch too! Jz though dam mint sounds!
8hp is a phenomenal swap, many advantages as you know, including virtual clutch. Doesn't replace dog box in every application, but is alternative. I have wanted to do 8hp swap, (for RB, SR and 13b, VQ30det, )well before it started gaining momentum. However, I still have not seen clear YT long term proof that they are 100% dialed in, though I have seen very great and well done swaps, only early results.....
You can put dog gear in any transmission regardless awd rwd fwd. 99% of motorcycles uses sequential dog gear mechanism in the transmission. It's cheap, shifts fast, durable. I actually don't know why car manufacturers choose synchro over dog gear
First time I’ve seen somebody go in depth like this into what it’s actually like to own one of these outside of just banging gears fast, love the insight!
Thanks for watching!
Bro is the highstrung of street cars... if ya know ya know.
killer vid man.
😂
Wish I kept the R154 out of my first Supra. Nothing else felt like that transmission. Cool vid.
Definitely building a dog box soon. Truck driver habits 😅. Good video man
Why does your shifter look like a dirty Hitachi wand?
You need to settle down
@@RabidJz🤣🤣
I second settle down lmao
You are my hero Shawn! 😍
I love the sound of it
Good video keep it up, i got a ppg dog box in my evo kinda scared too street drive it since i want to it last and its not cheap to fix lol maybe ill just send it see how long it does last, maybe make a video on it cause theres not much information on dogboxs / street driving / long jevity kinda, im sure it'll be fine tho since i know how to drive an probably wont beat on it to hard for a while till i get a lil more comfortable with the dogbox. Probably not gonna no lift to shift to save my dogs 😂 maybe some day tho lol just more curious on how long they last im sure if you dont totally beat on it itll fine/last but also have heard they last about half the life of a normal synchronize transmission guess we'll see haha
could you please describe the experience with daily driving a dog box in a evo, because I'm also thinking about having an evo 9 with a dog box, but I don't know if I should daily drive it or no, in terms of costs and reliability
i have a Dog in my evo 9 - i have never driven dog in my life... it is definitely a change to your driving habit.
sync boxes make life so much easier and im talking about normal driving and commuting. What alot of people dont talk about dogboxes is the intent of the shifting while driving. This video describes its really well in terms of shifting, how shifting behaviors are at low or high speed.
I struggle with downshifting as input shaft speed / RPM matters when matching gears.
when you get used to normal driving its actually just as the video describes its really nice to drive / easy to commute minus the race car sounds.
Yup absolutely correct
HI! I also drive a dog box in my Ford Escort Cosworth. I installed it three years ago and the first time I made a gear change while accelerating I was in disbelief at its speed. My car is not a racing one but a road one. It's not easy to use it like a synchromesh and you always have to know what you're doing, you always have to be focused and that's why it's wonderful! Going slowly, I use a different technique to change up: I press the clutch, move the gear lever to neutral and wait an instant for the primary shaft to slow down, then quickly engage the higher gear; this way three times out of four you don't even hear your teeth chattering. To downshift, always when I'm going slowly, I instead do the classic one-two punch to match the revs: down the clutch, gear lever in neutral, up the clutch, hit the accelerator, down the clutch and engage a lower gear; even so you can downshift without any teeth chattering. When going fast, however, I always use the clutch and engage the gears, both up and down, as quickly as possible: I tried to do the flat gear shift without the clutch but it doesn't feel instinctive and it makes the car make a lot of jolts!😟 At the time everyone told me not to install it because it is a gearbox that is unusable on the road and that those few who had installed it after a few months had removed it out of desperation, but I was too eager to try it and so after a year of evaluations I I got it and have been using it ever since and have never regretted it and will never go back to synchromesh again! If you are a mechanical fanatic, if you don't care about comfort, if you enjoy dominating your car, if you are willing to make some small sacrifices then the dog box is the best gearbox in the world! 😃 It's the only one capable of making you feel like an active part of your car! I am 100% convinced of my choice and I wonder why the manufacturers don't install it directly on very sporty cars, perhaps as an optional extra. Those who speak badly of the dog box are simply because they have never used it and speak from hearsay; 🤫🤐they are not really passionate about mechanics and want everything to be easy, without commitment, without understanding how things work, without making any sacrifices... they are the right customers for electric cars!😉
Thank you for this amazing story
WTF. You have to be a troll, no one is this clueless. You spent big money so you now are shifting SLOWER and HARDER to shift, you are doing up and down slower DOUBLE CLUTCHING. You say you always use clutch up and down, holy hell, the whole advantage is shifting fast WITHOUT the clutch. You cannot just FLAT SHIFT(if u even know what that is, lol) just because its a dog box....You need to add electronics such as ignition cut and pressure sensor. Please tell me you made up that story, I can't believe your wack story. Re-watch this video 20x, for heavens sake.
Hey man, are your gears helical cut ? They seem quite enough that I’m seriously considering
Awesome car man! What kind of alluminium rods do you have in it? And what pistons C/R etc?
R&R, induction performance diamon 10:1
@@RabidJzNice, what kind of gearset you running in the box? Or is it custom
Thanks for covering longevity some. Im sure it depends on where you source the parts from but ive always been considered about durability and maintenance. A lot of contradictory and bad info out there around these.
Idk how I got here but since I’m doing the whole “I’m mid 30s year old with home ownership issues” and zero projects of my own at moment I’m here to stay for show now😅🫡 great content sir
😂😂😂 Welcome to the family
Would double clutching help to stress the dogbox less?
Theres no point in double clutching.
I actually find pausing in neutral to make "no clunk" shifts
In theory yes. But not needed
Wut the behell is a chicken power bowl?
Where did you buy your dogbox gear set and how much was it? been trying to find one but they are 6k to 9k new
Pgs Transmissions.
@@RabidJz do you need a retune when you go to a dogbox? or is it just a straight drop in?
How many miles have you had this dog box for? How long do you expect it to last? Also, what's the plan when you do have to rebuild the gears (if you do have to do it)
Sick asf I’m in trade school for welding planning to be like you😎🔥❤️🔥
I'm torn. I have a broken sr20. I desperately want a 2j but it seems so bad ass you never get to really open it up
Can you make a video of it during rush hour traffic? Badass fucking car btw
No strain gauge?
Nah
Bit clunky and oldschool compared to current trans swaps.
8hp trans is what everyones swapping to now. Smooth fast and holds power. Can be driven with a clutch too!
Jz though dam mint sounds!
8hp is a phenomenal swap, many advantages as you know, including virtual clutch. Doesn't replace dog box in every application, but is alternative. I have wanted to do 8hp swap, (for RB, SR and 13b, VQ30det, )well before it started gaining momentum. However, I still have not seen clear YT long term proof that they are 100% dialed in, though I have seen very great and well done swaps, only early results.....
We just pretend you didn't run a redlight 😅
Actually, i was in the intersection when it was Yellow lol
The colours are mixed up due to camera malfunction. That was a green
Can i use it on a fwd street car?
You can put dog gear in any transmission regardless awd rwd fwd.
99% of motorcycles uses sequential dog gear mechanism in the transmission.
It's cheap, shifts fast, durable.
I actually don't know why car manufacturers choose synchro over dog gear
@@dannylu6230 prolly bcz of the high pitchy sound ig
sheesh looks like you could use an alignment and balance
People always hating.
If no one's hating, you're not popular enough
What trans is this?
R154