I got married during the pandemic. One of my "guests" said she didn't like my dress. She then got married, wearing the same dress!! She purchased her dress a month after my wedding!!
@everlasting9292 yep. She looked at me (she was 1 of 30 guests as that's all we could have), and said "I tried that one on and I didn't like it" We got married because we nearly lost my husband during covid. But this individual was a b***h about our planning etc with her comments!!
@staceycowley2453 she was honest, she said she didn't like it WHEN SHE TRIED IT ON. so it looked bad ON HER, not on you. Funny that she wore it for her own wedding in the end 😂😂😂
The sepia bride story is so much bigger than what was shown here. The photographer did an interview telling her side of the story and is now suing the bride.
Oh that bride annoys me so much! So she basically booked a photographer whose style she doesn't like and now she's bashing her all over the internet. She's also mad that the photographer didn't focus entirely on making HER, the bride look good 🙄 How about celebrating the moment? It's not your personal photo shoot, it's a wedding!
GOOD. My bestie is a photographer. And I know that when you book a photographer you SHOULD look at their portfolio and styles. If she saw the style of photography and didn't like it she should have said something!
@@ashleywilczynski2921 Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from its consequences. A defamation lawsuit literally means: When one person sues another person for making false and harmful statements about them. The goal of a defamation lawsuit is to receive compensation for the damage to the plaintiff's reputation or finances.
The entire time Sepia Filter Bride was going off, all I could think was, "did you NOT look at the photographers portfolio??!" Absolutely died when the editor added in the Science footage 😂💀😂 kudos to our brilliant editor
The ugly thing from the costumer was, she told her she liked the photos and after one month she changed her mind. The 4.000 $ was for all 2.000 raw photos with copyright.
I actually thought that the original photo enhanced the brides curves, when the bride edited it herself she made the image very flat, took out all of the depth of skin tone.
Right?! lol it tripped me when the science stuff came on cause my phone automatically went to a a commercial for Dawn dish soap so for a minute I thought it was part of the commercial.
The conversations between the sepia bride and the photographer are all available. Shes a bridezilla, 100%. The photographer went back and fixed several photos and then the bride acted a FOOL, demanding raw files for free and expecting new edits of hundreds of photos.
Did she fix the ocean? I agreed that part would upset me too and the lack of attention to detail there. But I take it back if the photographer made the effort to fix it and she's still blasting her/ did not take the video down. That's ICKY.
@@mismassacreTM she fixed a ton of the photos and even provided a few of the raw files for free, but stopped being willing to work for free after the bride demanded changes be made to every one of the several thousand photos. Regardless of how you feel about the ocean's color, she hired the photographer because of her style which is warmer and sepia toned wedding photos. There are conversations proving that, and then once they got back their wedding video which was done in true color she changed her mind about the warm toned still photos. no human being is 100% perfect, there are bound to be a few errors among 2000 photo edits and she had no problem with fixing some of them until it turned into someone demanding hours and hours of free labor and then demanding several thousand dollars worth of raw files for free.
Another possibility I thought of was how quickly did the bride expect the photos to be edited? I am guessing if you are a professional wedding photographer during wedding season, you probably have a couple projects happening at once. I can’t help but think the bride was not very descriptive about what she wanted. I am sorry, just a collage of Pinterest photos is not enough. Use your words. What did you like and what don’t you like about your examples? As a hairdresser, I totally sympathize with the photographer on this one. I have a feeling the bride wasn’t patient and went on the attack right away without really having a proper conversation.
The fact that the photographer gave her the RAW files speaks volumes. Usually it's the last straw to get a client off your back and most photographers refuse to give out the RAWs because it's not the product you are purchasing.
Then they’re scamming you. I pay for photos so give me the photos. Stop the bullshit. You’re not special. Just a camera with someone running it. Take the pics and give them to who paid for them, it’s really not hard.
@@rosetyler1434 You pay for the FINISHED photos. Raws are in no way finished and tbh most (if not every one) looks like it. Every photo needs editing and that is the finished product. No photographer gives away raws and if they do they charge A LOT and the reason is that it is not finished and not the work they want to be represented with.
I agree with gown-eyed girl, in the sense that the bride seems to be shaming women's choices, and then to turn around and call someone "evil" is so gross.
I'm in the wedding industry and LEAVING the wedding industry. I'm a florist and brides don't understand their flowers are not always in season at the time of the wedding. They expect what you do to be a carbon copy of their Pinterest pictures. You can come 99% close to their vision, but you still get insulted, freaked out on, and given bad reviews when you have broken your back and there is really no sane reason to go and put my business down. I'm totally over it. F these brides. I KNOW it's not everyone but it is definitely around 80% of my clients. I am now pursuing my creative talents independently and don't miss the wedding industry at all. It's so unpleasant and non stop drama. Going to live my life out now with more sanity and put in hard work that is actually appreciated.
I've seen so many florists back out of doing weddings because brides or grooms are overly demanding, demeaning, and completely unrealistic in their wants. I had a mother of the bride go off on me because she wanted arrangements that were very structured and elaborate. Everyone who looks at my instagram or portfolio knows my arrangements have a more relaxed feel to them. I am not required to branch outside of that. She insisted that I "Get over myself." And do it for her anyway because she is the paying client. The second I got off the phone I blocked her email, facebook, and instagram. I ended up working with the daughter separately on a single bouquet since she ended up opting to elope. I wander why lol
This is exactly why I went for silk flowers for all the florals at my wedding, I got exactly what I wanted and they last forever! I hope your new adventure takes you all the places you want to go x
@MLGaebel Good for you ! People don't generally understand how labor intensive the job is. They think that we have this chilled job playing around with flowers. I'm sure you will be aware it's the exact opposite ! It is a physically exhausting job where you are in your feet and sleep deprived before an event. Then, after all of that, after it has taken hours and hours to give you something that is beautiful, you get a slap in the face. It's so stressful and draining. I have also blocked people if, in the initial meeting, they behave like demanding divas. There is actually nothing worse than a bride the week before the wedding because they want everything to be perfect. I want it to be perfect too, but I'm tired of the abuse.
@melditch and that is the only way you will be able to have your exact vision, is to find a way to do it yourself, because you know exactly what you want.
there is one dress i could never hate and that is the parachute dress. the bride had her dress made from her husband's parachute that saved his life after he ejected from his plane that was on fire in ww2
I fell so far down that Sepia Bride drama. I heard both sides of the story and honestly the bride sounded like a nightmare to work with and she initially told the photographer she loved the photos. The photographer tried so hard and even offered to sell her the Raws. ETA: the photographer made tons of changes over multiple days until the bride decided she wanted all 2000 photos changed. This all apparently started after she got her wedding video and the video was in natural tones. The photographer also gave her some of her raws for free and thats when the bride made her videos with her own edits on the photos.
Yes! I watched Jessica Kolbeski's (I know I'm spelling her name wrong) video and 100% that bride was a hard core karen who is now acting the victim! That poor photographer bent over backwards trying to make this bridezilla happy
Wait why should she have to pay extra for raws, it’s the photos you already paid for?? Scammy bs artist. If you can’t take pics without editing it to shit like that then you’re not a photographer. Go join the ai army bs.
Came here to say exactly this. She requested all the raws which was like 2000+ pics and then got mad that the photog was going to charge her for them. Like, why didn't she just pic out a couple hundred she wanted edited in a different style and be done with it? No one is going to look through 2000 pics of your wedding. I've been married almost 20 years and I legit have had only a handful of people asking to look at my pics and I have 500 at most.
LOL right! I hate to admit the last photo she showed looked better without the warm edit. BUT all the other ones were gorgeous! My goodness Bridezillas turn into Wifezillas! 😂
@blahblahblah007ish she could have just given the unedited images, the way people are pretending the photographer is perfectly sane in this scenario is wild
I mean, who would blink if Dolce and Gabbana had some shady practices to make that very weird oompa loompa dress to sell for who knows how much. Idk why, it's just giving oompa loompa on their wedding day with the birdcage bottom.
I think the opposite!! The second dress had so much personality and gave her a unique shape. I personally would have taken the flowers off though. The first dress looked like a curtain sample lmao
YIKES, that bride complaining about the photographer.... Fam you CHOSE a photographer with a warm style.... And you're mad that the photos are warm? I'm getting MAJOR bridezilla vibes from her. Like maybe if you asked nicely and didn't slander her on SM she'd be happy to fix it for u lol
My husband married me sitting next to me in my hospital bed when I had pregnancy complications. After 12 years of being together. I didn't have a wedding dress. Just a simple black skirt and white blouse and my hair in a braid. I did my own makeup. There were two witnesses, his parents. I remember as the wedding date grew closer I grew sicker. Until I was too sick to leave the ward and walk out into the hospital gardens for photos. It wasn't to plan. But it was the most romantic gesture any man could have made as we faced the unknown. "In sickness and in health"
I got married in a swap meet dress at the courthouse because I was too pregnant and sick with HG to find anything I liked or could afford, that fit me.
@BENI_MMNA I'm fully recovered and my daughter is a bullet proof toddler and full of beans, you wouldn't know she was born premie emergency c section. My husband and I are very happy
I have little sympathy for people complaining about wedding photography on tiktok when it took me 3 YEARS to get my wedding photos and they were all crooked with no editing, AND YET, I found the few I liked, edited them myself, and have made peace with the situation.
The Sepia bride is a total bridezilla. She made several videos bashing the photographer leaving out important details. The photographer did an interview explaining her side. She tried to work with the bride by editing some of the photos and even gave her 10 raws for free on the condition that she not post the images on social media. The bridezilla became more and more demanding with the edits she wanted and then just demanded the raws. The photographer offered her the raws and copyrights for 2000+ images for $4000 which most photographers who reacted to the story said is fair. Things broke down entirely when the bride threatened to do exactly what she did: violate the verbal agreement (to not post the raws that she was given) and slander her photography business on social media. The bridezilla was difficult to work with and brides like her are why photographers hate doing wedding. I hope the photographer sues her.
What is with people who take ANY criticism as evil or bullying. A review of the dress, not the person, isnt evil. Its opinion. If you dont want anyone giving opinions, dont put it out in the public in a huge magazine
I think she handled it poorly but the video left out how the vloggers were accusing her of mysogeny in those vlogs/reviews. Yeah, a lot of people will feel personally attacked if you make something special to them all about your ideology and attacking them for having a religious ceremony and choosing a dress with symbolism that suited that. If you don't know about that part of what was being said about her and her dress, it sounds like she's crazy, but she literally never said her choice was the right or only choice, and didn't talk shit about other brides... it's the vloggers doing that to her.
@@ANPC-pi9vuright? I was thinking the same thing. She did not shame anyone she was speaking of herself and her preference. If a woman wants to wear something modest the internet goes crazy but if she wants to show more people hype her up. Make it make sense
@@ANPC-pi9vu I wasn't talking about other vloggers though, I was talking about the video criticizing what she didn't like about the dress. And I did read the article, she did put down other women for not being "modest" on their wedding day. And though I think its the wrong opinion, I wouldn't label her as evil for having it.. this is a trend on social media these days, calling critism as "bullying" or "haters". But in doing that, it waters down the actual bullying that happens. It's just an observation of mine, many influencers calling people haters when they have an opinion that doesn't align with their own.
@@whitneyr.846 did we read the same interview? Is this the part where she allegedly slams other women: “I didn’t want it to exude sex in any way, shape, or form,” she says of the dress, which she wore with a 16-foot lace veil. “I wanted it to feel effortless and as if it’s complimenting me, not overpowering me. There’s so much beauty and simplicity.” I think I found the correct interview. It feels like this influencer has more issues with the bride in question wanting a somewhat traditional wedding, so she really read into everything being a criticism of women who are following a less traditional route - although, that is actually nowhere in this interview. If there is another story I missed or part of it, do share. 🤷🏻♀️
She wasn't reviewing the dress though. You see it in Charlotte's video even: if she was just looking at the dress she would say it was beautiful. Her sole reason for criticizing the dress was that she wanted to criticize the bride who wore it for being modest. Absolute witch with a capital B.
After 34 years of marriage, just keep you sense of humor! Your wedding is a just an expensive party, and that's great. You can't live and die by a few hours, so much comes in the following months and years. Congratulations to you Charlotte and Mike!!❤❤
No kidding. I know we talk about “the happiest day of my life”. I mean hopefully it’s a happy day but there’s so much going on. It’s a big day for sure and I’m glad I can look back happily on mine, but all the days, months, years after are important too. How we talk to and about others, and our spouse.
Yes definitely!! Married 27 years together for 31 years!! 2 years ago I had a rare type of cancer and he was with me every step of the way, was at every dR appointment, cleaned up my messes after radiation and chemo. Now in remission and love him more every day.
I pep talked myself beforehand. I told myself that nothing is perfect and that some things would probably go wrong and that it would be okay in the end because what matters is me and my husband. That worked really well for me honestly.
My husband and I have created so many more amazing memories after our wedding day. Don’t get me wrong, it’s an amazing day, but it’s also the beginning of something better.
When it comes to wedding photos, my friends and family took pictures the whole day, then shared their favourites. It’s the best photo collection I could ask for.
I took what Olivia said about being modest for her wedding not as shaming other people, but maybe as her knowing she is usually seen in bikinis, sexy dresses, etc so for her wedding she wanted to do the opposite of that. Especially since she was in a church and she is normally overly sexualized. But that’s how I took it? 🤷🏽♀️
I don't think she was shaming people. But, I think people have a right to say "that's a turn off to me and I personally don't like when people say they chose modest dresses to be 'pure'" we're NOT accusing her of shaming others but that we don't like the style or mentality." This also does not mean we're attacking Olivia personally or are "evil." I've had friends who did the "modest" "pure" thing, and I told them it gave me an ick, but I respected they liked it. So, I believe it was wrong for Olivia to attack this girl who wasn't attacking her or "evil."
It's mostly because usually when people do the whole modest bride stuff they're lowkey insulting other brides. I think it's especially after that one bride who made a whole post going "Nothing is uglier than an immodest bride" that people are up in arms any time someone mentions "Modest"
Especially because the influencer said it was a beautiful dress but the area around it wasn't. Wtf does that mean? I don't think that that is a real critique. I've watched loads of say yes to the dress episodes and that teaches you, if nothing else, that wedding fashion is subjective. I mainly watch Atlanta and some of those dresses are, in my opinion, hideous. However the bride feels amazing so what else is there? There really is no such thing as objective in fashion because it will all be based on either your own, or someone else's standard, not a baseline objective viewpoint.
10:16 Olivia’s dress is stunning. Classic beauty. I think she should Not have responded to the people that disliked her dress. Not responding would have shown more dignity.
She overly sexulized herself at the reception. She made up for the non-sexulized wedding dress. Makeup or no makeup that's Olivia's choice. However, she made a mistake in responding.
I had a beach wedding on an overcast day. The photographer was excited because it's natural light diffusion and the photos were amazing. She edited it to bring the clouds out in the sky.
This was the first thing one of my tutors at uni said. I did a game art course and we had to take our own photos of textures, especially if we were making a 3D model of it and the texture needed replicating seamlessly. You couldn't do it on a sunny day because when creating a 3D model you had to create your own moving light source, your own sun, and it would have looked stupid having a permenent shadow while the 'sun' was creating more shadows, but on an overcast day the textures were perfect and looked more believable and the shadows acted like shadows. 14 yrs later and I still do it, even though I haven't done anything with my degree. Sorry for the ted talk and I hope it made sense but it shows you don't need the sun for every occasion for any kind of photography.
19:17 apparently giving up raw images is a huge thing with wedding photographers and charging thousands for the raws, especially all of them, is pretty standard. The fact she gave the bride some of the raws for free was incredibly generous. The RUclipsr Markie has a really good video or two about this situation and how the bride’s accusations of poor customer service was really her being pretty entitled and a little bullying toward the photographer. Shit got hella wild lol
It's very telling. Sounds like the photographer got tired of her bullsht and just gave her the raws to make her shut up. But that wasn't enough and she had to trash the photographer online as well as telling people to not hire her based on her own experience.
I mean at least the bridezilla admitted SHE hired the wrong photographer. She just doesn't think it was her fault somehow... even though she's the root of the issue. I worked as a 2nd photographer/assistant, when brides give us "inspos" they typically send us photos with a variety of editing styles. They're mostly showing us the vibe, the shots -- it is more cinematic (lots of movement) or editorial/posed, the kind of shots they want, close-ups or wide shots, etc. We don't typically default to thinking they dont want our editing style... just that they want those types of photos in OUR editing style, because otherwise, why would you choose us? We do photojournalistic, so we stay true to color without much contrast (unless the wedding theme is vibrant)... and offer BW, that's it. NObody has complained we don't have sepia or that our photos are not saturated enough :|
@@evelynvslife the main reason many photographers are hesitant to give raw files is because what the client posts is a reflection of the photographer’s work. If the client edits their own photos in a way that is not representative of the photographer’s editing style or product (or even worse, if the client edits are just bad lol), then that can reflect back to the photographer and make other people think they offer something else or that they’re not good at their job :/ But! That’s not every photographer. Many are happy to share raw images at the client’s request and work with them, but just as many would rather charge for them because at least they get paid for clientele they may miss out on due to the potential misrepresentation of what they offer.
The wording of her not wearing eyebrow pencil, mascara or lip liner was specifically designed to be r/technicallythetruth. Because they don’t specifically say she isn’t wearing any makeup. She’s just not wearing those three things. It’s a trick used to give a different impression while still not technically lying.
For the second story there is so much to it. The bride found the photographer on Instagram booked her becase she "loved" her work. The bride was happy with the work(she even said so in the video) for almost a year then she decided she hated them and wanted a refund
Sounds like the bride wanted things to look filled in with flash, which you can tell if a photographer does or not via looking at their work. seems like the client just wanted some online fame.
With sepiagate, Jessica Kobeissi did a great job breaking down what went wrong. The photographer came onto social media and said that the bride started being threatening to her, and that’s when she stopped wanting to work with the bride. The bride was demanding ALL of the raw photos (thousands of photos). 🙄 From my POV, things were done wrong on all sides here.
Science correction! The ocean is blue partially because the sky is blue and partially because water at sufficient depth... actually is blue. The hydrogen to oxygen bonds of water in its liquid state absorb the red end of the spectrum, leaving behind cyan. Reflections from the clear sky cause large bodies of water to trend into the aquamarine side of blue, while large amounts of algae tint things more turquoise or green. But yes : water really actually is blue, and the deeper the water gets the darker of a blue it becomes.
She got married in a church. That's basic respect for the church! In Italy you can't even enter if you don't have a certain basic dress-code (or if you do it's heavily frowned upon). As men take out their hats and don't wear shorts, women has dress-codes aswell! It's a religious place no? You take off your shoes before entering in some temples, I don't understand why sometimes respect is not given to all religions.
In 1916, my grandparents eloped. They were married in a priest's rectory; both wore their Sunday attire. There were 50 years before grandpa died. Gram passed away 26 years later, still very much in love with "my Thomas". In 1945, my mother wore her Easter suit & my fatheer his Army uniform to their wedding. They were married 50 years before mom passed away; dad passed 6 years later, still very much in love with his "little honey". It ain't the dress.
This is so sweet and so true! My parents were the same way. They got married at a courthouse, also in Sunday clothes. They were together 27 years until death literally did part them. Yep, the dress has absolutely nothing to do with it! It's all about the love and commitment to each other! That's what really matters.
Fun reminder that before Queen Elizabeth got married in 60 something (60s? 50s? I can't remember) everyone just got married in their nicest outfit!! It was usually a skirt suit, not even a dress, since skirt suits were the very fashionable for the time! Elizabeth wanted to show off how rich she was --so she had the dress made in Alabaster White fabric. Same with white wedding cakes, it means that you have the money to buy granulated and powdered sugar to make the cake and icing as pale as possible. ALSO, De Beers made the huge campaign of giving your fiance a diamond and came up with the bullshit you should spend x amount of your salary on it, and blasted that in every radio, paper, and television ad that they could.
12:05 this situation is weird. I feel like there’s a lot of information missing, I’d love to hear the photographers side of the story. Obviously if she refused to budge on the editing and is actually holding the raw images hostage that is wrong, but something feels off about this story. But maybe I’m just jaded from these videos lol.
As a photographer I agree but also have known photographers to be strict on their edits and how they photograph. To each their own but that's also a reason for a portfolio.
Yes the whole situation is weird. That’s why photographers have portfolios so you can see how they edit their photos. And if you don’t like how they’re edited, ask the photographer to re-edit them.
I'm just so baffled like, your wedding is in vogue with a very controversial designer like... were we expecting everyone to applaud? Cuz having a wedding that public only opens you to criticism, kinda childish to get butthurt when people have opinions that don't match your own. Especially being a public figure like that, it will only make people more critical in the future imo
If you're religious that's enough reason to cover up. What happens after is not part of the "sacred" tradition. Therefore, the awfully exposing dress at reception.
I don’t understand why people have a problem with what she said. She specifically said it was for her and had no judgment on what anybody else wore. And for her reception she wore something more revealing. She just personally wanted her ceremony to be focused on one direction and she didn’t want the focus it to be on how sexy she looked or not. Again, for. HER ceremony. When people criticize her words, it’s almost like they feel guilty about something which is so freaking bizarre because again it’s not their wedding. Plus, she was just answering the questions. Vogue asked her and who knows how they edited it. What in the world is wrong with a bride who has specific desires about her wedding ceremony? It’s so freaking bizarre that people criticize her for wanting to be modest when she literally said nothing about anybody else.
@@fivemjscouldn't agree with you more. Too many whiney, fragile snowflakes in America. I can not imagine getting so triggered and bent out of shape over someone else's wedding choices and their thoughts on THEIR wedding! 😂😂😂😂
On no "Sepia gate" again! I've been down that rabbit hole on a photographer's youtube channel I follow. I get why the bride was mad, but I also get why the photographer was mad too. That whole situation was bananas!Bananas! I also want Charlotte to do a say yes to the dress episode! Charlotte and Randy(from Kleinfeld) together would be awesome!
The modest bride: Not everyone in the world is going to like your taste in clothing. They're not evil for sharing that opinion when you put your pictures in magazine
@@nyotauhura7412 I don't really think she got so hot and bothered about others not liking her dress, she made it public, people are gonna have opinions, she's an influencer, she should know the ins and outs of being a public figure, if it was just about the dress it'd be silly to call a different opinion 'evil', but I watched the dress reviewer's video, and while she's not "evil", per se, she was shockingly aggressive and unpleasent. She talked about the dress for a bit, it wasn't a style she'd go for but said the dress was pretty (perfectly fine), but then she goes on an ENTIRELY different tangent by calling Olivia's wedding, because of her choice of modesty, a "conservative campaign", "that if she wanted to push a conservative agenda why not make it appealling (essentially saying "modesty is ugly unless it looks a certain way")", a disingenuous pick me who wasn't thinking about anything other pushing a narrative"...all of THAT came out of her mouth. I was shocked when I heard the full thing! Who on earth wants to hear that the happiest day of their lives was just some "agenda pushed campaign?" If that was the case it was certainly an expensive one! To my knowledge, Olivia didn't drag other women through the mud for their own choices, her reaction was a tad bit much and came off as rather childish (to me), but imagine being none of those things, and yet you randomly accussed of being a "not like other girls pick me pushing a narrative"...on your wedding. The true hypocriscy of claiming that someone is "pushing an agenda" while also kinda doing the SAME thing is astounding.
@@juniceward2646 Yeah! If I didn't dig deeper into it, it definitely looks like was set to be seen as "conservative bride flexes on modesty, calls innocent dress reviewer "evil" for not liking her dress" news - like yeah calling someone else "evil" on tik tok can come off as juvenile, but considering how outright rude and bias the reviewer, I don't really blame her for retorting back, even it wasn't the best or most mature reaction to this saga.
1:39 throwback to the “for nothing is uglier than an immodest bride” lady - GURL there are so many more things I could easily put on the top of that list like why 😭😭😭
TBF the video left out the part where they were basically calling her mysogenist for being Catholic and wanting a modest dress design for a Catholic wedding ceremony... I strongly suspect that's what set her off though I agree she handled it gracelessly. But really the women going after her and making her choices all about them and their activism is some real mean girls meets twitter freaks bullsit.
@@ANPC-pi9vu that was toxic purity culture, she was being the bully, yes myogenetic! shaming anyone else who doesn't dress like her for their wedding and not necessarily catholic its usually an evangelic one. I'm married to a Catholic and I had less fabric and blue in it too ( actually modeled after 1600s dresses... so how was I less modest LMAO). she didn't pick the dress bc she loved it or how it looked on her... she looked for the most "modest" in her opinion dress to show up others, and at that same time voiced her opinion to shame others that didn't that's the difference.
@@SheriMaasspurity culture IS toxic, bc ppl are only human and will never be able to live up to the impossible standard of "purity". It's unhealthy to even try to do that, and too many ppl (especially women and fem presenting ppl) are harmed by the stringent expectations placed on them by society. Purity is not an inherently good quality. Humans are rarely "purely" anything, bc we're multifaceted beings capable of higher thought. (To be clear, I don't think u mean anyone harm. I just think it would be a good idea for more ppl to really THINK about what "purity" actually is & how our perception of it can cause emotional & psychological harm to ppl, that's all 😅)
Not that anyone asked but full time esthetician and makeup artist here - I went on her IG and I can see she 100% she has lash extensions, her brows look freshly tinted, because there’s still some slight staining left on her skin, and she definitely has some sort of lip liner or color, whether it be tattooed or not.
And besides that, the hundreds maybe even thousands of dollars she spent and has spent on facial treatments that most people can’t afford on the regular.
My sister is a glam gal, she gets compliments on the time because she is make up free lots day to day, she always immediately tells people "brows done and tinted, lashes lifted, contour tan, lip fillers-I might be make up free but I'm not natural" 😂 I'm not saying every one has to do this but gosh do the girlie's she says it to light up when they hear it ☺️
Okay I LOVE Olivia’s ceremony dress. It does have personality in its simple elegance and the full skirt and the lacy veil is a great complement to the smooth, flowy fabric. I do agree the after party dress was weird!
I love the dress but to act holier than thou while working with a racist and homophobic design home is hypocritical and gross. Like Charlotte said, it is Olivia's commentary and her reaction to criticism of her dress that is ICKY! Calling someone evil for stating they don't like the dress is ridiculous AF
IDK the bottom of the dress looks like a couple table cloths wrapped around her, but that's just what I think. They certainly didn't have say people were evil. So anyone that doesn't agree with them is evil? The second dress she wore was so freaking ugly though!
Omg leave the woman alone. Let her wear what she wants. I don’t see her shaming non-modest brides at all. Why are people so obsessed with tearing her down? It’s weird asf.
How is Olivia saying that she wants to be modest in "her wedding dress" condemning other people for what they do???????? The influencer said the word "covered " made her feel "icky"....something is really wrong with todays society She was interviewed, that's the direction she wanted to go for her ceremony, which also appears to be in a church....obviously, she doesn't have a problem with showing skin per her reception outfit....People need to get something to do
This. She only spoke for herself. The influencer then went nuts calling her a misogynist and that she was judging other women. She wasn’t. She didn’t once say anything about what other women should do.
I think it was the way she was speaking about her husband liking her covered, it gives off weird controlling vibes. “Don’t look at my wife!” It’s terminology a lot of super religious nutjobs use, purity culture, etc. - which a lot of people, myself included, find icky. She looked beautiful in her dress and of course she can wear whatever she likes, I just feel like if she said SHE feels most beautiful when she’s covered it would be fine - instead she spoke about how her husband likes her covered. Purity culture vibes give a lot of people the ick, and it’s okay to feel that way too.
The girl who reacted to the dress also said she didnt like everything around the dress. Meaning the fact she points out she was not wearing make-up etc. The added commentary. And Charlotte literally also mentions this so I don't know why theres a bunch of comments making it out to seem like the girl went on a rant about nothing. Were you guys not at that point in the video yet or...?
@nopenope9118 you know what, I appreciate your comment. It shouldn't make anyone feel any type of way because she respects her fiancé, now husband's opinion. What is wrong with that? When you love someone, you should respect their opinion, it doesn't automatically equal control. I am a middle aged married woman..I said that to say this, if you married, you should respect each other and the opinions it doesn't mean someone is controlling you, it simply means you value their thoughts and can take them into consideration 😉 and again, why would someone wanting to be or present as pure, per their beliefs, make you feel any type of way? It has absolutely nothing to do with you, their beliefs, culture, religion, just like no one should feel away about you if you don't subscribe to a particular culture, religion, belief etc...
12:30 photography is an art and every photographer expresses their art in their style which is why you book a photographer that matches your style and expectations
@anitalitwiller2080 A reception is a part of the wedding. She's okay dancing with her father in such an "unmodest" dress and being sexualized during the father/daughter dance?
9:20 i love that this creator completely ignores the fact that olivia then proceeded to wear a revealing dress at her wedding right after. it’s not about her dress itself or how olivia looked, it was the undertone of her statements and hypocrisy. it’s valid to agree or disagree with her statements, everyone should wear what they feel beautiful and comfortable in and can see marriage in whatever way fits for them. it was the way her statements were said. i personally don’t care that olivia said it even if i disagree but the criticism is valid just like olivia’s opinions are as well. i just find the after party dress looking the way it does after those statements incredibly funny
And what was that thing she wore as 2nd dress? It looks like something one would wear while pretending to be a toddler . But her hubby thinks she’s most beautiful when she’s covered ….. so she wears a diaper with a sheer cage tutu on top? WTH?
She also ignored OG creator video - she showed muslim and other modest dresses She said what she didint like about olivias gown It Had NOTHING to do with the fact that it was MODEST DRESS
She wanted something modest for the actual ceremony...for her actual vows...in an actual church that she likely considers is holy and sacred. Her after party is not a religious ceremony...it is a party so she dressed for a party. Don't know why people are having such a hard time understanding the major difference between two very different things. It isn't rocket science😂😂😂
@@mizzLopezit’s not rocket science but it screams hypocrisy « I dress as a modest wife at the church but as a stripper for the after party », she said in her itw she wanted to be « covered, timeless and elegant for her husband because this is how he likes her » ( so it has nothing to do with her faith), the two dresses were like the total opposites. If you are a modest woman with certain values go for it but if you just act like it for the narrative you want to put out there don’t be surprised if people point it out. Like the influencer said there was nothing wrong with the dress just the false narrative surrounding it.
I love the elegance of her wedding dress. Sometimes lack of lace and fancy lines is very elegant, especially with the rich fabric used for her dress. I totally love it!
I liked the dress. It looked right for the first bride. I say whatever the bride feels comfortable and beautiful in on her day, Bravo. Not every bride will like the same style of dress. So let it be, and the bride should ignore what others say. Just remember your wedding day with happiness.
I got married after church in my church dress (it was a milky pink dress), never wanted a big or flashy fancy dress. The wedding night was just me and hubs going out to eat at red lobsters, me drinking my favorite cocktail, and a whole night of old cartoons and passion. Loved it.
"By saying what your choices are, you're also cutting down other peoples choices." Unless she said all brides should be modest or if you're not modest like me you're not doing it the right way, no it isn't. It is her voicing her choice for herself. If she had said exactly the same thing and substituted modest with flirty, fun or sexy, no one would have an issue. Edit: spelling
💯 We live in a very strange society if someone is stating their preference for something translates to putting down someone else. Unless someone explicitly says something against another it shouldn’t be a problem.
I was thinking the same thing! When I go shopping with my husband and say "I'd prefer something more modest" it's not shaming people for wanting something else. It's my preference. (But we don't call it modest lol we call it "Brittiny approved" because I don't like the word modest)
Olivia Culpo 100% made her dress choice & wedding about "not being like other girls". There is no way there's no judgement in those words about being "covered". Even modesty is kind of a loaded term.
@@sallakolehmainen4535 I don't know enough about the Olivia situation. But I disagree when you say the word modesty is a loaded term. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be modest and non-sexualized. I think your negativity to that term sounds like the arguments objecting to vilifying women who dress with less layers. But both points are valid. Men are in charge of their own thoughts and actions so a woman should Not be vilified because she wears less layers in her own view of what's sexy. But someone dressed modestly can still be sexy and beautiful and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either. It all boils down to we shouldn't be vilifying Anyone based on their clothes.
@@jl5442 As someone who grew up ultra conservative, modesty IS a loaded word to many people. The fact that her after party dress was the complete opposite of everything she said invalidated her opinion.
@@jl5442 hard, hard disagree. But be glad you have no religious trauma...or sad that you're still buried balls deep in it. But either way, modesty is a HUGELY loaded term and it has been used to shame and vilify women for centuries.
@@jl5442Equating modesty with being non-sexualised is the very problem. If you say you want to dress modestly not to be sexualised, you’re in effect saying anybody wearing revealing clothing is welcoming being sexualised. That’s pretty close to victim blaming women for being slut shamed. Its unhealthy, harmful and misogynistic.
The reception "dress" looks like a playboy bunny prom look. The bride goes from a very reserved, elegant, respectable look to a hoochie mama in no time.
I agree. To talk about purity and sanctity of marriage and then go to that kind of reception dress...I guess at that point she *is* married and sanctified and all that but it is quite incongruent.
Pretty freaking certain the wedding dress and her tomfoolery about modesty in the interview has more to do with her husband (and possibly inlaws) than her personal beliefs. Not to mention her very obvious superiority complex 🤣
I'm a modest type, too. I would probably wear something close to, but not as boring, as her wedding dress. She spent how much on a D&G that looks like something you could get from the Sears and Roebucks catalogue? X-D But I think that the after party dress was cute! I wouldn't wear it. But it did contradict everything that she seemed to claim to stand for. Also, if this was a church wedding, it makes sense still to wear something somewhat conservative. That's just my opinion.
15:58 there are always 2 sides to everything and i recommend watching jessica koebesi's video where the photographer is actually interviewed and broke her silence. It's very interesting and from what i recall, the photographer did a lot for the bride even things the bride asked for and the bride still wasn't happy. And then at the end of the day the photographer did a no no and sent the bride her raw photos just ro try and make her happy.
2:32 idk if it make sense or not but the moment i saw the picture i feel like the person as in general she gives the vibe and the dress she's wearing actually matches perfectly like it says "me" you know.. so i think the dress and the person wearing it really blends the personality and the confidence comes on the surface.. like for example from big bang theory show where Amy wears a pile of swan dress still it actually felt beautiful with here quirky choices and the whole moment felt happy.. so yeah.. if it make sense hit a like thank you❤
Bro I literally watched that episode yesterday. When she came out in it I was surprised Penny didn’t like it because you’re right, that dress was VERY Amy and she looked at home in it.
1:30 I hate that they call this style "modest", like.. what does that mean? You have to be covered to be considered "modest"? If not, that means you are not? I hate that.
Words have meaning. Like an actual definition. It's like wanting to be called fit when your refuse to exercise. "What does that mean ? You have to exercise to be considered "fit ? If not, that means that you are not ?" Yep. That's how it works.
Yes? If you're modest, you're not showing your body. If you're not modest, you are. The dress covers her, so it's modest. It's that simple. Not that being modest is superior. It's your personal choice.
Heres some context for the photography drama so that you understand the woman was a complete bridezilla. 1. They pushed for a larger package of around 2000 photos (usually its a few hundred). 2. She made a big deal of the price being $8k but did not disclose to everyone that it was a MULTI-DAY DESTINATION WEDDING. The rate also includes hourly editing 3. She had recieved the finished album and initially told the photographer she was very happy with it. Did not raise an issue until almost a month later! 4. Asked for re-edits 3x which the photographer DID oblige and re-edit. 5. Was still not happy with the re-edits and threatened her with social media outburst. 6. Asked for RAWS which SHE GOT. fyi asking for RAWs in the photography industry is a BIG no no, it just is. 7. Proceeded to point out a bunch of problems online that she didnt initally tell the photographer about. 8. Her portfolio is plain as day on her insta, they ALL have that tone So yeah, no way were theres only 10 or so solo bride shots in an album of 2k. Sometimes a few deepset eyed shadows slip through . Yes photographer should have said no to so many photos. Also clarified the clients issue even if they dont know how to properly communicate it before going ahead with edits. But this woman is putting a photographer on blast simply because she didnt realise she actually wanted natural/ neutral notes instead of warm tones nor how to say it.
"Asking for raws in photography is a big no no" - sis where? Almost every package I've ever seen has included a USB of the raws at a pretty reasonable price, this is nonsense 🤣 I agree the lady was in the wrong about a lot but even in modeling I've gotten the raws for free sometimes. This is just patently untrue.
@@quantumkitty128 it's not nonsense. Literally do me a favour and type into google "do photographers give out raws" and look at all those search results. Or even r/askphotography, alternatively watch Jessica kobessei's video on the sepia gate drama. She explains it from a photographers POV plus a follow up video where she breaks down the photographers very own interview on the matter. Just because you've experienced something one way doesn't mean that's how it always is. Takes less than 30secs to fact check, I was also confused so I researched it.
I like Olivia's dress, the close up, where you saw the sleeves and it had these little rounded pads just at the shoulder. the way it's shaped and the bodice it self makes me think of mid Elizabethen era. I cant remember if it was Mary queen of scotrs or another 16th century queen but there's a portrait of a queen in solid white. if you took away the decorative details such as jewels, brocades etc and left it plain Olivia's dress is literally a modern revision of that gown, which I find quite fascinating. I don't know if 16th century was part of the references for what she visioned in her gown But for me it looks like a modern recreation of mid Elizabethan dress and I'm loving
First story - When I first saw this dress, my first thought was Grace Kelly's wedding dress. It's classic and stylish. She's obviously not a prude by any means, but she feels the actual ceremony should be classic and traditional vs the current styles of today. Nothing wrong with that. And for her to state her reasoning didn't imply anything for other brides' dress choices. Only her own beliefs. This is shown by her choice of dress for the reception. People need to stop getting offended over misconceived slights.
Nah, the creator literally said she didn't like it and that it lacked personality, which she admits is a subjective opinion, and coupled with *who* designed the dress, I agree. It's a nice dress. She looked great in it. Other people are allowed to say they didn't like it without being called 'evil'.
Agreed but that’s (some) modern day feminist for ya. They act like they are for women when they just wanna tear em down 🤦♀️ it’s hypocrisy at its finest.
@@kyris66 What's wrong with DOlCE GABBANA. Is it for the slave sandals? The slave sandals which has nothing to do with America, but it's how in Italy we call those sandals because of Ancient Rome?
Gonna be honest, I think people are overreacting. Saying that you want to look timeless and be covered doesn't mean that you think it's tacky for other people to do other things. So far I haven't seen any definitive examples of her actually shaming other women
Olivia culprit didn’t slam anyone who is wearing a revealing dress for their wedding! She talked about her choices for a CHURCH wedding! The after party wasn’t held in a church, so the second dress was appropriate!
@@heatherlowe7330 that’s your opinion, she obviously liked it and I. Sure her husband did too. we all wear clothes sometimes someone else doesn’t like but we love it! Why tear her down for it?
The edits and additions to your videos are always very well placed and done, but THIS video was just 🤌✨️ delicious!! Absolutely hilarious, entertaining and sassy! Master editing ❤
Yep! By this rule, saying “I wanted to wear something sexy because I think I should be able to show off my body at my wedding” should be equally offensive to people who don’t want to wear sexy dresses. Either that or it’s hypocrisy and fake outrage due to feeling self conscious about your own choices. 🙃
That's what I was thinking! I think Charlotte made an assumption of motive fallacy here... Also... willing to bet that Dolce Gabana is neither racist nor homophobic but unfortuantely probably had the "wrong" opinion about something. To be fair - the afterparty dress does contradict "i want to look modest" lol but by no means should anyone have felt like she was Slut-shaming... if they did, then that's projection.
Totally agree. If I'm saying I did this for my wedding because I think weddings should be (blank), that is not me cutting down anybody else. You do you sweetheart. But if I'm saying I think this is what a wedding should be like so that's why I'm doing it this way, that not meant as an insult. It's no more of an insult than if I said that chocolate cake should not be a wedding cake. You may have had a chocolate wedding cake and everybody may have loved. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to disagree. My disagreement doesn't somehow make your wedding bad in any way. We all have varying opinions which makes us individuals.
The dress assumptions are similar to a problem I have occasionally when telling people I homeschool my children. Some women will get defensive as if I am saying they aren't doing enough for their kids because they don't. No, you asked what school my kid goes to, I answered the question. I think the problem is people assuming judgment and being defensive. She was asked about her dress and make up, she answered the questions.
First story - She never shamed anyone for their wedding dress choices, I think people are projecting that intention. I read her statements.. there was simply no judgement, only what she wanted for herself
Including Charlotte, which left a bad taste in my mouth. She literally said by stating her one choice, she is inherently "cutting down" women that have a different choice. That's an absolutely ridiculous statement, I am surprised she left it in
Thank you! That's what I wanted to say. You can take the wedding so seriously that you prefer a very solemn gown and then want to celebrate with a weird looking party dress afterward. Lol it's so funny all the coping for someone else's personal choices.
@@SparklesWithStyleI was surprised too that anyone would have thought the bride was even implying that others’ choices were wrong. I did not get that in any way. She was merely stating her preferences and why because of her respect for the sanctity of the marriage ceremony.
Exactly...how sad the world has become if someone simply explaining why SHE chose to have modest dress for the CEREMONY suddenly gets spun into a "she's a pick me! She's looking down on others for showing more skin!" when she didn't?? No wonder she reacted so poorly in return, I would too (not online, definitely take a breather cuz the internet is forever) if everyone decided I was some sort of "repressed, internalised misogynist" when ALL I stated was MY choice to wear what I wore to MY ceremony! Not liking the style and cut is one thing, it's another to project some weird sense of guilt that turned into full blown anger onto her and decide she's some sort of pick me for being serious about the religious aspect of the big day!? Is the world topsy-turvy??
She didn't shame anyone's dresses. It's so stupid to not like the dress because of what the bride SAID about it. If she dressed very revealing and said she wanted to be "as sexy as possible" the same people would be saying "slayyyyy girl"
If she wasn't playing some kind of "pick me" card, why did she lie about not wearing makeup? It's the implication that ANYTHING LESS than what she was wearing would be EXUDING sexuality, would not be taking her vows seriously. She dresse fairly provocatively in her every day life, but dressing in her normal style for this will somehow undermine her vows. She's pushing this narrative that her way is the only way to take your marriage seriously. And it's fine if you don't pick up on it, some people are more sensitive to certain kinds of rhetoric. But I ask you, why would she turn around and LIE about wearing MAKEUP? It's the mixed messages and the weird implications about other choices available that make this a trad wife dogwhistle, not the dress itself.
@Steeksify the interviewer asked her questions, and she answered them with her own opinion about her own wedding and her own marriage. All the women screaming 'pick me' just wish they were the one picked. In my opinion ☺️
@@MsSwizzyy 🙄The ones defending her exude "I think I'm hot shit but I feel really insecure about myself, and think that its love when my SO feels threatened by others". In my opinion. 🥰 Again, why the hell did she lie about wearing makeup? Furthermore, this shit was on her own personal social media, so don't even act like she was just answering questions.
I personally don't like it, mainly the fabric, but I am appalled people are taking up torches and pitchforks, including Charlotte, for merely talking about her wedding choices. Itt ridiculous
I LOVE the dress. It's architectually beautifully constructed. IT IS OLIVIA'S DRESS and it's exquisite. The wedding was in a church. She looked angelic.
I loved it too 😂 when you make your big day public it means anyone can comment and they're gonna!! But that dress was timeless and she looked amazing 😍
Architecturally? It's fashion, not a Gothic castle 🤣 It was genuinely the most boring design I've ever seen - and sure, some people love classic and timeless. But this wasn't timeless because it has no character whatsoever, it has no hallmarks of any time period. It has no defining features. No dress has ever been less interesting in the history of the world.
One little science note. The sky and ocean are both blue for the same reason but one is not blue because of the other. Each color is a different wavelength and blue just so happens to be the easiest to scatter making it more easily visible. This is also why in most kinds of colorblindness blue is still a visible or vibrant color. No hate just a fun fact 🩵
Part of modesty that people often forget is modesty in appearance and actions. It’s also not drawing undue attention to yourself. So, the dress being “bland” is part of it being a modest dress. It pulls focus off the bride and onto the marriage event. She’s easier to overlook, and the marriage becomes the focus. Great for commitment to your partner, bad for a celebrity and/or influencer who is doing a fashion spread in a fashion magazine. I think the dress is lovely, but the two ideas “look at me. I’m in a magazine” and “don’t look at me, I’m modest” are opposed so I don’t think people like that, subconsciously.
I don’t think Olivia was shaming other brides for their choices she was just stating how she wanted to look on her wedding day. The tik toker was actually shaming her for choice and everything she found unappealing about the dress going so far as to say it lacked personality, as if she knows her to say that. Also we need to stop getting butt hurt when people state their likes or preferences for themselves and take that as a personal attack or judgement of you. Like come on people don’t have to like what you like or be into what your into were each our own person
I don’t understand why people are mad at Olivia Culpo saying what SHE wanted for HER wedding look and what it meant to HER. She never once said anything about other brides. She stated her opinions about her day. And the reception dress being a bit more revealing makes sense - the religious ceremony is done, and now it’s a party. I feel like people need to get over themselves in this instance 🤷🏻♀️ it’s different than that one bride who was like “there’s nothing uglier than an immodest bride” or something along those lines
Exactly this. I was so confused as to why people were so upset when she was literally just saying what SHE wanted for herself. Women being able to wear what they want goes both ways.
Your lack of comprehension skills doesn’t change reality. Let me explain in terms you will understand. She didn’t EXPLICITLY said anything about other brides but she implying that having a non matronly dress means you want to sexualize yourself, which reinforces the dangerous idea that clothes have anything to do with wanting s€x. And she’s a I’m so pretty I don’t need makeup p/ckme. And she is also a hypocrite cause her after party outfit is basically stripper version of moulin rouge fits.
Yes!! The way people were trying to make her out to be JUST LIKE that "immodest is ugly" bride was nuts! She was talking about HERSELF. At NO POINT did she drag other women who did their wedding differently from hers down to make herself look better, she took the ceremony seriously but then let her hair down for the AFTERPARTY! How "hypocritical"! 🙄 It's almost like there's a DIFFERENCE between a religious ceremony and a party that's suppose to be nothing BUT FUN! 😑
its the way she basically sic'ed her fans on gowneyedbeauty, and that she wasn't honest about her makeup, and i totally respected her reasoning until her reception dress.....a tube-top-booty-shorts bodysuit under a tiny sheer hoop-skirt, doesn't reflect how she said she wanted her wedding to be or feel. Culpo genuinely looked like just another glammed up Las Vegas Bride at her reception. dime-a-dozen. I was hoping to see her in something more elegant and regal. like a chiffon a-line with quarter-sleeves would have looked ephemeral, especially with a shorter version of her veil. but as a photographer, i would have picked a less busy backgroud, because everything around her really drowns her out in my eyes. the photo of her and her husband together was amazing in composition, it was about THEM, her solos should have been about HER, not there room she was in.
Okay, I think Olivia looked beautiful! As for the article, we don’t know what was edited out! Olivia could have made additional comments that the editors decided to omit for whatever reason! Give me break people! There are much better things to debate than her dress and interview for Vogue.
I think Olivia's dress is regal, elegant, and beautiful... I love the dresses that aren't too flashy, to me simple is better that way you can see the Bride's natural beauty but if it's a flashy, blingy dress then that takes away from the Bride's natural beauty. It was Olivia's choice so people should just leave it be. What's that saying? If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all!?
I feel like calling someone EVIL for not liking your wedding dress is such an overreaction, like bro yall don't even know each other why tf do you care if she likes it and why is it evil of her to give an honest review?
I got married during the pandemic. One of my "guests" said she didn't like my dress. She then got married, wearing the same dress!! She purchased her dress a month after my wedding!!
This is similar to a wedding drama showcased in one of the videos in the past!
What the actual?
@everlasting9292 yep. She looked at me (she was 1 of 30 guests as that's all we could have), and said "I tried that one on and I didn't like it"
We got married because we nearly lost my husband during covid. But this individual was a b***h about our planning etc with her comments!!
She was JEALOUS. And NASTY!!!
@staceycowley2453 she was honest, she said she didn't like it WHEN SHE TRIED IT ON. so it looked bad ON HER, not on you. Funny that she wore it for her own wedding in the end 😂😂😂
Who else is going to cry when Charlotte can show us how she looks in her wedding dress??
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Her decision only.
@@CharlotteDobrebet ya picked it out already?! 😮😅😊✌🏻❤🙏🏼
@@ThibauddeLaMarnierre this
@@CharlotteDobre I can't friggen wait to see you in your gown! 😍
The sepia bride story is so much bigger than what was shown here. The photographer did an interview telling her side of the story and is now suing the bride.
I would love to see that! I enjoy those kinds of videos, seeing both sides of the story.
Yeah, they literally saw that her style was heavy with sepia in her portfolio before they picked her, and then they were shocked 😂
Oh that bride annoys me so much! So she basically booked a photographer whose style she doesn't like and now she's bashing her all over the internet. She's also mad that the photographer didn't focus entirely on making HER, the bride look good 🙄 How about celebrating the moment? It's not your personal photo shoot, it's a wedding!
GOOD. My bestie is a photographer. And I know that when you book a photographer you SHOULD look at their portfolio and styles. If she saw the style of photography and didn't like it she should have said something!
Sepia Bride is giving Bridezilla vibes.
To assert, on line, “don’t hire this photographer”, in my opinion, could justify a lawsuit for defamation and damages. This bride is evil
That's freedom of speech.
@@ashleywilczynski2921 Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from its consequences. A defamation lawsuit literally means: When one person sues another person for making false and harmful statements about them. The goal of a defamation lawsuit is to receive compensation for the damage to the plaintiff's reputation or finances.
The entire time Sepia Filter Bride was going off, all I could think was, "did you NOT look at the photographers portfolio??!" Absolutely died when the editor added in the Science footage 😂💀😂 kudos to our brilliant editor
The ugly thing from the costumer was, she told her she liked the photos and after one month she changed her mind.
The 4.000 $ was for all 2.000 raw photos with copyright.
I actually thought that the original photo enhanced the brides curves, when the bride edited it herself she made the image very flat, took out all of the depth of skin tone.
Right?! lol it tripped me when the science stuff came on cause my phone automatically went to a a commercial for Dawn dish soap so for a minute I thought it was part of the commercial.
All I could think is, Charlotte already made a video about this 😅 and knows the bride was awful
@@KimVerhaaff Yeah pretty sure I have seen several videos now where she is reacting to things she has already reacted to before.
The conversations between the sepia bride and the photographer are all available. Shes a bridezilla, 100%. The photographer went back and fixed several photos and then the bride acted a FOOL, demanding raw files for free and expecting new edits of hundreds of photos.
Did she fix the ocean? I agreed that part would upset me too and the lack of attention to detail there. But I take it back if the photographer made the effort to fix it and she's still blasting her/ did not take the video down. That's ICKY.
@@mismassacreTM she fixed a ton of the photos and even provided a few of the raw files for free, but stopped being willing to work for free after the bride demanded changes be made to every one of the several thousand photos. Regardless of how you feel about the ocean's color, she hired the photographer because of her style which is warmer and sepia toned wedding photos. There are conversations proving that, and then once they got back their wedding video which was done in true color she changed her mind about the warm toned still photos. no human being is 100% perfect, there are bound to be a few errors among 2000 photo edits and she had no problem with fixing some of them until it turned into someone demanding hours and hours of free labor and then demanding several thousand dollars worth of raw files for free.
Another possibility I thought of was how quickly did the bride expect the photos to be edited? I am guessing if you are a professional wedding photographer during wedding season, you probably have a couple projects happening at once. I can’t help but think the bride was not very descriptive about what she wanted. I am sorry, just a collage of Pinterest photos is not enough. Use your words. What did you like and what don’t you like about your examples? As a hairdresser, I totally sympathize with the photographer on this one. I have a feeling the bride wasn’t patient and went on the attack right away without really having a proper conversation.
The fact that the photographer gave her the RAW files speaks volumes. Usually it's the last straw to get a client off your back and most photographers refuse to give out the RAWs because it's not the product you are purchasing.
Then they’re scamming you. I pay for photos so give me the photos. Stop the bullshit. You’re not special. Just a camera with someone running it. Take the pics and give them to who paid for them, it’s really not hard.
@@rosetyler1434You seem to have misunderstood the comment. You pay to have the photos edited, touched up if necessary and pre-sorted. :)
@@rosetyler1434 You pay for the FINISHED photos. Raws are in no way finished and tbh most (if not every one) looks like it. Every photo needs editing and that is the finished product. No photographer gives away raws and if they do they charge A LOT and the reason is that it is not finished and not the work they want to be represented with.
@@rosetyler1434😭 and it’s just a paint brush with someone holding it
You all bridezillas????? LOL..
I agree with gown-eyed girl, in the sense that the bride seems to be shaming women's choices, and then to turn around and call someone "evil" is so gross.
What did her in is the hypocrisy... the difference between the wedding dress and the reception dress is stark.
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I'm in the wedding industry and LEAVING the wedding industry. I'm a florist and brides don't understand their flowers are not always in season at the time of the wedding. They expect what you do to be a carbon copy of their Pinterest pictures. You can come 99% close to their vision, but you still get insulted, freaked out on, and given bad reviews when you have broken your back and there is really no sane reason to go and put my business down. I'm totally over it. F these brides. I KNOW it's not everyone but it is definitely around 80% of my clients. I am now pursuing my creative talents independently and don't miss the wedding industry at all. It's so unpleasant and non stop drama. Going to live my life out now with more sanity and put in hard work that is actually appreciated.
I've seen so many florists back out of doing weddings because brides or grooms are overly demanding, demeaning, and completely unrealistic in their wants. I had a mother of the bride go off on me because she wanted arrangements that were very structured and elaborate. Everyone who looks at my instagram or portfolio knows my arrangements have a more relaxed feel to them. I am not required to branch outside of that. She insisted that I "Get over myself." And do it for her anyway because she is the paying client. The second I got off the phone I blocked her email, facebook, and instagram. I ended up working with the daughter separately on a single bouquet since she ended up opting to elope. I wander why lol
Well I hope your new venture brings you a lot more joy than working with brides ever did 😍
This is exactly why I went for silk flowers for all the florals at my wedding, I got exactly what I wanted and they last forever! I hope your new adventure takes you all the places you want to go x
@MLGaebel Good for you ! People don't generally understand how labor intensive the job is. They think that we have this chilled job playing around with flowers. I'm sure you will be aware it's the exact opposite ! It is a physically exhausting job where you are in your feet and sleep deprived before an event.
Then, after all of that, after it has taken hours and hours to give you something that is beautiful, you get a slap in the face. It's so stressful and draining. I have also blocked people if, in the initial meeting, they behave like demanding divas. There is actually nothing worse than a bride the week before the wedding because they want everything to be perfect. I want it to be perfect too, but I'm tired of the abuse.
@melditch and that is the only way you will be able to have your exact vision, is to find a way to do it yourself, because you know exactly what you want.
there is one dress i could never hate and that is the parachute dress. the bride had her dress made from her husband's parachute that saved his life after he ejected from his plane that was on fire in ww2
I've seen that! It's amazing!
Oh, please tell me there's a photo! I wanna see that beautiful dress!
@@NAVEMAN3 there is on google. Look up WW2 parachute wedding dress
I googled it, its not my taste but I love it because of the story behind and now I'm crying
@@DaniR450 I Binged it, and I saw the picture. It's beautiful, and now I know where Belle got her dress.
I fell so far down that Sepia Bride drama. I heard both sides of the story and honestly the bride sounded like a nightmare to work with and she initially told the photographer she loved the photos. The photographer tried so hard and even offered to sell her the Raws.
ETA: the photographer made tons of changes over multiple days until the bride decided she wanted all 2000 photos changed. This all apparently started after she got her wedding video and the video was in natural tones. The photographer also gave her some of her raws for free and thats when the bride made her videos with her own edits on the photos.
Yes! I watched Jessica Kolbeski's (I know I'm spelling her name wrong) video and 100% that bride was a hard core karen who is now acting the victim! That poor photographer bent over backwards trying to make this bridezilla happy
@@dawnchesbro4189 I watched the same video!
This!! That poor photographer was going through it. Definitely on her side instead of the bride’s.
Wait why should she have to pay extra for raws, it’s the photos you already paid for?? Scammy bs artist. If you can’t take pics without editing it to shit like that then you’re not a photographer. Go join the ai army bs.
Came here to say exactly this. She requested all the raws which was like 2000+ pics and then got mad that the photog was going to charge her for them. Like, why didn't she just pic out a couple hundred she wanted edited in a different style and be done with it? No one is going to look through 2000 pics of your wedding. I've been married almost 20 years and I legit have had only a handful of people asking to look at my pics and I have 500 at most.
I love both Olivia Culpo's dresses. First time I don't understand the drama, and it got blown out out of proportions.
I like the dresses themselves too, her attitude is rotten, though
Not me screaming “my sister in Christ you booked the photographer” alone in my kitchen 😂
LOL right! I hate to admit the last photo she showed looked better without the warm edit. BUT all the other ones were gorgeous! My goodness Bridezillas turn into Wifezillas! 😂
exactly!!!!! she chose her, did you not see her previous work.
U watching that Green/Red flag guy videos too? Lol
😂
6:23 can we get a matching tiny glued-on ring to the tiny hands so I don’t question the illusion 😭
That'd be hilarious!
i was gonna say this!
😂😂 she absolutely must do this now.
Gonna throw another comment to boost this because it is a MUST have. Just a little puffy paint and a crystal. 😂
That seems like a very Charlotte thing to do, too.
The sepia photographer DID reedit photos. She went above and beyond to please her. The bride was asking for WAAAAAYYYYYYY too much.
Those seas are after a rework? Yikes
So who made the hedges look dead?
@@cloudysunsetsno, those weren’t reworked images.
I also saw that. She even did an interview responding to all this. The story seems incomplete.
@blahblahblah007ish she could have just given the unedited images, the way people are pretending the photographer is perfectly sane in this scenario is wild
The covenant argument falls on its face with the reception dress tbh
The first woman’s wedding dress is beautiful… the after party dress, however, is just silly. .She looks like a cheap umbrella on a very windy day 😄
I mean, who would blink if Dolce and Gabbana had some shady practices to make that very weird oompa loompa dress to sell for who knows how much. Idk why, it's just giving oompa loompa on their wedding day with the birdcage bottom.
Party dress for Culpo, looked like the underpinnings of a dress
I think the opposite!! The second dress had so much personality and gave her a unique shape. I personally would have taken the flowers off though. The first dress looked like a curtain sample lmao
She’s a model, it was obvious that she was going to wear something that screamed FASHION and that was it
@@crissy4445 - it looks like it has shower puffs all over it.
YIKES, that bride complaining about the photographer.... Fam you CHOSE a photographer with a warm style.... And you're mad that the photos are warm? I'm getting MAJOR bridezilla vibes from her. Like maybe if you asked nicely and didn't slander her on SM she'd be happy to fix it for u lol
My husband married me sitting next to me in my hospital bed when I had pregnancy complications. After 12 years of being together. I didn't have a wedding dress. Just a simple black skirt and white blouse and my hair in a braid. I did my own makeup. There were two witnesses, his parents. I remember as the wedding date grew closer I grew sicker. Until I was too sick to leave the ward and walk out into the hospital gardens for photos. It wasn't to plan. But it was the most romantic gesture any man could have made as we faced the unknown. "In sickness and in health"
I got married in a swap meet dress at the courthouse because I was too pregnant and sick with HG to find anything I liked or could afford, that fit me.
Your story and experience is more beautiful than any wedding dress. ❤
How are you now? You got better?
@BENI_MMNA I'm fully recovered and my daughter is a bullet proof toddler and full of beans, you wouldn't know she was born premie emergency c section. My husband and I are very happy
I have little sympathy for people complaining about wedding photography on tiktok when it took me 3 YEARS to get my wedding photos and they were all crooked with no editing, AND YET, I found the few I liked, edited them myself, and have made peace with the situation.
The Sepia bride is a total bridezilla. She made several videos bashing the photographer leaving out important details. The photographer did an interview explaining her side. She tried to work with the bride by editing some of the photos and even gave her 10 raws for free on the condition that she not post the images on social media. The bridezilla became more and more demanding with the edits she wanted and then just demanded the raws. The photographer offered her the raws and copyrights for 2000+ images for $4000 which most photographers who reacted to the story said is fair. Things broke down entirely when the bride threatened to do exactly what she did: violate the verbal agreement (to not post the raws that she was given) and slander her photography business on social media. The bridezilla was difficult to work with and brides like her are why photographers hate doing wedding. I hope the photographer sues her.
Someone pointed out that she did an interview explaining her side & is suing the bride 😈
@@3terna_tea I adore this
What is with people who take ANY criticism as evil or bullying. A review of the dress, not the person, isnt evil. Its opinion. If you dont want anyone giving opinions, dont put it out in the public in a huge magazine
I think she handled it poorly but the video left out how the vloggers were accusing her of mysogeny in those vlogs/reviews. Yeah, a lot of people will feel personally attacked if you make something special to them all about your ideology and attacking them for having a religious ceremony and choosing a dress with symbolism that suited that. If you don't know about that part of what was being said about her and her dress, it sounds like she's crazy, but she literally never said her choice was the right or only choice, and didn't talk shit about other brides... it's the vloggers doing that to her.
@@ANPC-pi9vuright? I was thinking the same thing. She did not shame anyone she was speaking of herself and her preference. If a woman wants to wear something modest the internet goes crazy but if she wants to show more people hype her up. Make it make sense
@@ANPC-pi9vu I wasn't talking about other vloggers though, I was talking about the video criticizing what she didn't like about the dress. And I did read the article, she did put down other women for not being "modest" on their wedding day. And though I think its the wrong opinion, I wouldn't label her as evil for having it.. this is a trend on social media these days, calling critism as "bullying" or "haters". But in doing that, it waters down the actual bullying that happens. It's just an observation of mine, many influencers calling people haters when they have an opinion that doesn't align with their own.
@@whitneyr.846 did we read the same interview? Is this the part where she allegedly slams other women: “I didn’t want it to exude sex in any way, shape, or form,” she says of the dress, which she wore with a 16-foot lace veil. “I wanted it to feel effortless and as if it’s complimenting me, not overpowering me. There’s so much beauty and simplicity.” I think I found the correct interview. It feels like this influencer has more issues with the bride in question wanting a somewhat traditional wedding, so she really read into everything being a criticism of women who are following a less traditional route - although, that is actually nowhere in this interview. If there is another story I missed or part of it, do share. 🤷🏻♀️
She wasn't reviewing the dress though. You see it in Charlotte's video even: if she was just looking at the dress she would say it was beautiful. Her sole reason for criticizing the dress was that she wanted to criticize the bride who wore it for being modest. Absolute witch with a capital B.
After 34 years of marriage, just keep you sense of humor! Your wedding is a just an expensive party, and that's great. You can't live and die by a few hours, so much comes in the following months and years. Congratulations to you Charlotte and Mike!!❤❤
No kidding. I know we talk about “the happiest day of my life”. I mean hopefully it’s a happy day but there’s so much going on. It’s a big day for sure and I’m glad I can look back happily on mine, but all the days, months, years after are important too. How we talk to and about others, and our spouse.
Yes definitely!! Married 27 years together for 31 years!! 2 years ago I had a rare type of cancer and he was with me every step of the way, was at every dR appointment, cleaned up my messes after radiation and chemo. Now in remission and love him more every day.
I pep talked myself beforehand. I told myself that nothing is perfect and that some things would probably go wrong and that it would be okay in the end because what matters is me and my husband. That worked really well for me honestly.
My husband and I have created so many more amazing memories after our wedding day. Don’t get me wrong, it’s an amazing day, but it’s also the beginning of something better.
When it comes to wedding photos, my friends and family took pictures the whole day, then shared their favourites. It’s the best photo collection I could ask for.
I took what Olivia said about being modest for her wedding not as shaming other people, but maybe as her knowing she is usually seen in bikinis, sexy dresses, etc so for her wedding she wanted to do the opposite of that. Especially since she was in a church and she is normally overly sexualized. But that’s how I took it? 🤷🏽♀️
I don't think she was shaming people. But, I think people have a right to say "that's a turn off to me and I personally don't like when people say they chose modest dresses to be 'pure'" we're NOT accusing her of shaming others but that we don't like the style or mentality." This also does not mean we're attacking Olivia personally or are "evil." I've had friends who did the "modest" "pure" thing, and I told them it gave me an ick, but I respected they liked it. So, I believe it was wrong for Olivia to attack this girl who wasn't attacking her or "evil."
I 100% agree with you!
It's mostly because usually when people do the whole modest bride stuff they're lowkey insulting other brides. I think it's especially after that one bride who made a whole post going "Nothing is uglier than an immodest bride" that people are up in arms any time someone mentions "Modest"
Especially because the influencer said it was a beautiful dress but the area around it wasn't. Wtf does that mean? I don't think that that is a real critique. I've watched loads of say yes to the dress episodes and that teaches you, if nothing else, that wedding fashion is subjective. I mainly watch Atlanta and some of those dresses are, in my opinion, hideous. However the bride feels amazing so what else is there? There really is no such thing as objective in fashion because it will all be based on either your own, or someone else's standard, not a baseline objective viewpoint.
10:16 Olivia’s dress is stunning. Classic beauty.
I think she should Not have responded to the people that disliked her dress. Not responding would have shown more dignity.
That and.... Who cares what a random influencer has to say about your wedding dress... The wedding is FOR YOU! Not social media
Or lied in the article.
Agree 💯
I mean, I think it looks kind of severe in the cut but otherwise, it does no thing for me or my marriage so you do you girly.
She overly sexulized herself at the reception. She made up for the non-sexulized wedding dress. Makeup or no makeup that's Olivia's choice. However, she made a mistake in responding.
I had a beach wedding on an overcast day. The photographer was excited because it's natural light diffusion and the photos were amazing. She edited it to bring the clouds out in the sky.
Where can we see the pics😊
This was the first thing one of my tutors at uni said. I did a game art course and we had to take our own photos of textures, especially if we were making a 3D model of it and the texture needed replicating seamlessly. You couldn't do it on a sunny day because when creating a 3D model you had to create your own moving light source, your own sun, and it would have looked stupid having a permenent shadow while the 'sun' was creating more shadows, but on an overcast day the textures were perfect and looked more believable and the shadows acted like shadows. 14 yrs later and I still do it, even though I haven't done anything with my degree. Sorry for the ted talk and I hope it made sense but it shows you don't need the sun for every occasion for any kind of photography.
19:17 apparently giving up raw images is a huge thing with wedding photographers and charging thousands for the raws, especially all of them, is pretty standard. The fact she gave the bride some of the raws for free was incredibly generous. The RUclipsr Markie has a really good video or two about this situation and how the bride’s accusations of poor customer service was really her being pretty entitled and a little bullying toward the photographer. Shit got hella wild lol
It's very telling. Sounds like the photographer got tired of her bullsht and just gave her the raws to make her shut up. But that wasn't enough and she had to trash the photographer online as well as telling people to not hire her based on her own experience.
That’s surprising to me. I know nothing about the wedding photography, but I’d rather just have the raw pictures and edit them myself 😅
I mean at least the bridezilla admitted SHE hired the wrong photographer. She just doesn't think it was her fault somehow... even though she's the root of the issue.
I worked as a 2nd photographer/assistant, when brides give us "inspos" they typically send us photos with a variety of editing styles. They're mostly showing us the vibe, the shots -- it is more cinematic (lots of movement) or editorial/posed, the kind of shots they want, close-ups or wide shots, etc. We don't typically default to thinking they dont want our editing style... just that they want those types of photos in OUR editing style, because otherwise, why would you choose us?
We do photojournalistic, so we stay true to color without much contrast (unless the wedding theme is vibrant)... and offer BW, that's it. NObody has complained we don't have sepia or that our photos are not saturated enough :|
@@evelynvslifeit's VERY rare to receive raw files. Photographers don't provide them for a reason.
@@evelynvslife the main reason many photographers are hesitant to give raw files is because what the client posts is a reflection of the photographer’s work. If the client edits their own photos in a way that is not representative of the photographer’s editing style or product (or even worse, if the client edits are just bad lol), then that can reflect back to the photographer and make other people think they offer something else or that they’re not good at their job :/
But! That’s not every photographer. Many are happy to share raw images at the client’s request and work with them, but just as many would rather charge for them because at least they get paid for clientele they may miss out on due to the potential misrepresentation of what they offer.
The wording of her not wearing eyebrow pencil, mascara or lip liner was specifically designed to be r/technicallythetruth. Because they don’t specifically say she isn’t wearing any makeup. She’s just not wearing those three things.
It’s a trick used to give a different impression while still not technically lying.
I am so excited for your wedding!!! You are glowing way more than you ever have and I love it!! Thanks for the wedding upload today!!!
Thank you so much!!
@@CharlotteDobre❤❤❤
For the second story there is so much to it. The bride found the photographer on Instagram booked her becase she "loved" her work. The bride was happy with the work(she even said so in the video) for almost a year then she decided she hated them and wanted a refund
lol when did I once say I wanted a refund?! And a year? WOW you really listened to the story 😂
It took a year?!😮
Just wanted something for nothing. 😢
Sounds like the bride wanted things to look filled in with flash, which you can tell if a photographer does or not via looking at their work. seems like the client just wanted some online fame.
@@alexweinstein4713 "I wanted" ?! Are you this bride?!
My 2 year old just ran past me and yelled subscribe! Lol @Charlotte Dobre
That's amazing. 😂😂
Thats so precious ❤
Raising 'em right! 👊😂
Where's @Charlotte Dobre? She would get a kick out of this! 😂😂😂
That’s how my kid knows the video is over and then she can ask to watch a video 😂😂😂😂😂
"Evil" is a strong word.
REALLY strong when two people say it.
With sepiagate, Jessica Kobeissi did a great job breaking down what went wrong. The photographer came onto social media and said that the bride started being threatening to her, and that’s when she stopped wanting to work with the bride. The bride was demanding ALL of the raw photos (thousands of photos). 🙄 From my POV, things were done wrong on all sides here.
I love Jessica Kobeissi her ANTM videos are awesome.
I said pretty much the same thing in my comment. I love Jessica's videos. I agree, I think she did a great job on them as well.
@@laurakate6573 Same!
Yes! I came to comment this myself. Her video was so great. Sepia gate is just crazy.
That dress is beautiful classic and traditional and if that’s what makes you happy then that’s what you do
Three dress is fine. Her actions and behavior aren't.
i could not agree more however just feel like the way she responded to hate was just flat out pick me
If she was so confident with her decision, someone pointing out that they don't like it as much as she does wouldn't bother her. Just sayin'.
what sends me is her after ceremony dress being like the exact opposite i kinda died lol
It seems to me that the bride and photographers had two different styles and also two different personalities it just didn't work
Science correction! The ocean is blue partially because the sky is blue and partially because water at sufficient depth... actually is blue. The hydrogen to oxygen bonds of water in its liquid state absorb the red end of the spectrum, leaving behind cyan. Reflections from the clear sky cause large bodies of water to trend into the aquamarine side of blue, while large amounts of algae tint things more turquoise or green. But yes : water really actually is blue, and the deeper the water gets the darker of a blue it becomes.
Ooh, thank you for this info! I'll have to tuck this away for later 💜
Omg, thanks!
If the party dress were not a bubble covered diaper onesie I would totally feel her explanation of the ceremony dress.
Bubble covered diaper onesie 😂 Perfect description!
YES. ALL OF THIS.
Bubble covered diaper onesie made me cackle.
I keep rereading and can’t finish your sentence. 🤣🤣🤣 I just burst out laughing it’s freakin perfect description
She got married in a church. That's basic respect for the church! In Italy you can't even enter if you don't have a certain basic dress-code (or if you do it's heavily frowned upon). As men take out their hats and don't wear shorts, women has dress-codes aswell! It's a religious place no? You take off your shoes before entering in some temples, I don't understand why sometimes respect is not given to all religions.
In 1916, my grandparents eloped. They were married in a priest's rectory; both wore their Sunday attire. There were 50 years before grandpa died. Gram passed away 26 years later, still very much in love with "my Thomas". In 1945, my mother wore her Easter suit & my fatheer his Army uniform to their wedding. They were married 50 years before mom passed away; dad passed 6 years later, still very much in love with his "little honey". It ain't the dress.
This is so sweet and so true! My parents were the same way. They got married at a courthouse, also in Sunday clothes. They were together 27 years until death literally did part them. Yep, the dress has absolutely nothing to do with it! It's all about the love and commitment to each other! That's what really matters.
Exactly. Those brides are so freaking focused on themselves and how they look. This day is so much more than that!
My grandmother got married in a brown suit. You’re absolutely right it is not about the dress.
I SO appreciate this love and welcome it for my man and I. 😘❤️💎
Fun reminder that before Queen Elizabeth got married in 60 something (60s? 50s? I can't remember) everyone just got married in their nicest outfit!!
It was usually a skirt suit, not even a dress, since skirt suits were the very fashionable for the time!
Elizabeth wanted to show off how rich she was --so she had the dress made in Alabaster White fabric.
Same with white wedding cakes, it means that you have the money to buy granulated and powdered sugar to make the cake and icing as pale as possible.
ALSO, De Beers made the huge campaign of giving your fiance a diamond and came up with the bullshit you should spend x amount of your salary on it, and blasted that in every radio, paper, and television ad that they could.
Tell me you never talked to your wedding photographer without telling me you didn't talk to your photographer 😂
12:05 this situation is weird. I feel like there’s a lot of information missing, I’d love to hear the photographers side of the story. Obviously if she refused to budge on the editing and is actually holding the raw images hostage that is wrong, but something feels off about this story. But maybe I’m just jaded from these videos lol.
Agreed.
As a photographer I agree but also have known photographers to be strict on their edits and how they photograph. To each their own but that's also a reason for a portfolio.
Yes the whole situation is weird. That’s why photographers have portfolios so you can see how they edit their photos. And if you don’t like how they’re edited, ask the photographer to re-edit them.
I'm just so baffled like, your wedding is in vogue with a very controversial designer like... were we expecting everyone to applaud? Cuz having a wedding that public only opens you to criticism, kinda childish to get butthurt when people have opinions that don't match your own. Especially being a public figure like that, it will only make people more critical in the future imo
Dolce Gabbana are controversial only for you Americans
The case of Olivia Culpo is the living image of be careful what you say on the internet 😂
Her wedding dress is gorgeous. Her reception dress is not my favorite.
If you're religious that's enough reason to cover up. What happens after is not part of the "sacred" tradition. Therefore, the awfully exposing dress at reception.
I don’t understand why people have a problem with what she said. She specifically said it was for her and had no judgment on what anybody else wore. And for her reception she wore something more revealing. She just personally wanted her ceremony to be focused on one direction and she didn’t want the focus it to be on how sexy she looked or not. Again, for. HER ceremony. When people criticize her words, it’s almost like they feel guilty about something which is so freaking bizarre because again it’s not their wedding.
Plus, she was just answering the questions. Vogue asked her and who knows how they edited it. What in the world is wrong with a bride who has specific desires about her wedding ceremony? It’s so freaking bizarre that people criticize her for wanting to be modest when she literally said nothing about anybody else.
@@fivemjscouldn't agree with you more. Too many whiney, fragile snowflakes in America. I can not imagine getting so triggered and bent out of shape over someone else's wedding choices and their thoughts on THEIR wedding! 😂😂😂😂
@@fivemjs👏👏👏 EXACTLY. Say it louder for the people in the back.
On no "Sepia gate" again! I've been down that rabbit hole on a photographer's youtube channel I follow. I get why the bride was mad, but I also get why the photographer was mad too. That whole situation was bananas!Bananas! I also want Charlotte to do a say yes to the dress episode! Charlotte and Randy(from Kleinfeld) together would be awesome!
The modest bride: Not everyone in the world is going to like your taste in clothing. They're not evil for sharing that opinion when you put your pictures in magazine
@@nyotauhura7412 I don't really think she got so hot and bothered about others not liking her dress, she made it public, people are gonna have opinions, she's an influencer, she should know the ins and outs of being a public figure, if it was just about the dress it'd be silly to call a different opinion 'evil', but I watched the dress reviewer's video, and while she's not "evil", per se, she was shockingly aggressive and unpleasent.
She talked about the dress for a bit, it wasn't a style she'd go for but said the dress was pretty (perfectly fine), but then she goes on an ENTIRELY different tangent by calling Olivia's wedding, because of her choice of modesty, a "conservative campaign", "that if she wanted to push a conservative agenda why not make it appealling (essentially saying "modesty is ugly unless it looks a certain way")", a disingenuous pick me who wasn't thinking about anything other pushing a narrative"...all of THAT came out of her mouth. I was shocked when I heard the full thing! Who on earth wants to hear that the happiest day of their lives was just some "agenda pushed campaign?" If that was the case it was certainly an expensive one!
To my knowledge, Olivia didn't drag other women through the mud for their own choices, her reaction was a tad bit much and came off as rather childish (to me), but imagine being none of those things, and yet you randomly accussed of being a "not like other girls pick me pushing a narrative"...on your wedding. The true hypocriscy of claiming that someone is "pushing an agenda" while also kinda doing the SAME thing is astounding.
@@jessoliveiro8975 ok I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this.
@@juniceward2646 Yeah! If I didn't dig deeper into it, it definitely looks like was set to be seen as "conservative bride flexes on modesty, calls innocent dress reviewer "evil" for not liking her dress" news - like yeah calling someone else "evil" on tik tok can come off as juvenile, but considering how outright rude and bias the reviewer, I don't really blame her for retorting back, even it wasn't the best or most mature reaction to this saga.
@@jessoliveiro8975 then I mean, she was marrying in a chrch. What did you all wanted her to wear? A bikini?
The “Shot On iPhone” edit with the side eye had me cryyiiinnnggg 😂
1:39 throwback to the “for nothing is uglier than an immodest bride” lady - GURL there are so many more things I could easily put on the top of that list like why 😭😭😭
TBF the video left out the part where they were basically calling her mysogenist for being Catholic and wanting a modest dress design for a Catholic wedding ceremony... I strongly suspect that's what set her off though I agree she handled it gracelessly. But really the women going after her and making her choices all about them and their activism is some real mean girls meets twitter freaks bullsit.
@@ANPC-pi9vu that was toxic purity culture, she was being the bully, yes myogenetic! shaming anyone else who doesn't dress like her for their wedding and not necessarily catholic its usually an evangelic one.
I'm married to a Catholic and I had less fabric and blue in it too ( actually modeled after 1600s dresses... so how was I less modest LMAO). she didn't pick the dress bc she loved it or how it looked on her... she looked for the most "modest" in her opinion dress to show up others, and at that same time voiced her opinion to shame others that didn't that's the difference.
@@minimaladjacent toxic purity? Stop
@@SheriMaasspurity culture IS toxic, bc ppl are only human and will never be able to live up to the impossible standard of "purity". It's unhealthy to even try to do that, and too many ppl (especially women and fem presenting ppl) are harmed by the stringent expectations placed on them by society.
Purity is not an inherently good quality. Humans are rarely "purely" anything, bc we're multifaceted beings capable of higher thought.
(To be clear, I don't think u mean anyone harm. I just think it would be a good idea for more ppl to really THINK about what "purity" actually is & how our perception of it can cause emotional & psychological harm to ppl, that's all 😅)
Not that anyone asked but full time esthetician and makeup artist here - I went on her IG and I can see she 100% she has lash extensions, her brows look freshly tinted, because there’s still some slight staining left on her skin, and she definitely has some sort of lip liner or color, whether it be tattooed or not.
And besides that, the hundreds maybe even thousands of dollars she spent and has spent on facial treatments that most people can’t afford on the regular.
My sister is a glam gal, she gets compliments on the time because she is make up free lots day to day, she always immediately tells people "brows done and tinted, lashes lifted, contour tan, lip fillers-I might be make up free but I'm not natural" 😂 I'm not saying every one has to do this but gosh do the girlie's she says it to light up when they hear it ☺️
Okay I LOVE Olivia’s ceremony dress. It does have personality in its simple elegance and the full skirt and the lacy veil is a great complement to the smooth, flowy fabric.
I do agree the after party dress was weird!
I love the dress but to act holier than thou while working with a racist and homophobic design home is hypocritical and gross. Like Charlotte said, it is Olivia's commentary and her reaction to criticism of her dress that is ICKY! Calling someone evil for stating they don't like the dress is ridiculous AF
Agreed
@@TimeToBreathe-ntmfI completely agree
IDK the bottom of the dress looks like a couple table cloths wrapped around her, but that's just what I think. They certainly didn't have say people were evil. So anyone that doesn't agree with them is evil? The second dress she wore was so freaking ugly though!
Her wedding theme based on her dresses her
"Modest at day, h*e at night"
Cause how else do u describe this?????
Olivia's dress is stunning and classic. Good for her and her reasons for it. She wore the first one in the CHURCH
Omg leave the woman alone. Let her wear what she wants. I don’t see her shaming non-modest brides at all. Why are people so obsessed with tearing her down? It’s weird asf.
How is Olivia saying that she wants to be modest in "her wedding dress" condemning other people for what they do???????? The influencer said the word "covered " made her feel "icky"....something is really wrong with todays society She was interviewed, that's the direction she wanted to go for her ceremony, which also appears to be in a church....obviously, she doesn't have a problem with showing skin per her reception outfit....People need to get something to do
Is it really condemning? People like us has nothing to do but bash happy lives
This. She only spoke for herself. The influencer then went nuts calling her a misogynist and that she was judging other women. She wasn’t. She didn’t once say anything about what other women should do.
I think it was the way she was speaking about her husband liking her covered, it gives off weird controlling vibes. “Don’t look at my wife!” It’s terminology a lot of super religious nutjobs use, purity culture, etc. - which a lot of people, myself included, find icky. She looked beautiful in her dress and of course she can wear whatever she likes, I just feel like if she said SHE feels most beautiful when she’s covered it would be fine - instead she spoke about how her husband likes her covered. Purity culture vibes give a lot of people the ick, and it’s okay to feel that way too.
The girl who reacted to the dress also said she didnt like everything around the dress. Meaning the fact she points out she was not wearing make-up etc. The added commentary. And Charlotte literally also mentions this so I don't know why theres a bunch of comments making it out to seem like the girl went on a rant about nothing. Were you guys not at that point in the video yet or...?
@nopenope9118 you know what, I appreciate your comment. It shouldn't make anyone feel any type of way because she respects her fiancé, now husband's opinion. What is wrong with that? When you love someone, you should respect their opinion, it doesn't automatically equal control. I am a middle aged married woman..I said that to say this, if you married, you should respect each other and the opinions it doesn't mean someone is controlling you, it simply means you value their thoughts and can take them into consideration 😉 and again, why would someone wanting to be or present as pure, per their beliefs, make you feel any type of way? It has absolutely nothing to do with you, their beliefs, culture, religion, just like no one should feel away about you if you don't subscribe to a particular culture, religion, belief etc...
I love her dress. OMG it's so elegant and beautiful.
12:30 photography is an art and every photographer expresses their art in their style which is why you book a photographer that matches your style and expectations
The reception dress is literally just a petticoat with a corset. Miss mam, that's what you wear under your clothes 😂
So? Her party, her dress. I don;t understand the issue.
@@loosiluThe issue is how hypocritical of her to not want to be sexualized at her wedding yet she goes dresses like that.
@@memyoldiemaybe. But if she views the wedding as just the ceremony as where the important stuff happens you don’t have to view it as hypocritical
@@loosilu The issue is she was talking about modesty one dress ago.😅
@anitalitwiller2080 A reception is a part of the wedding. She's okay dancing with her father in such an "unmodest" dress and being sexualized during the father/daughter dance?
9:20 i love that this creator completely ignores the fact that olivia then proceeded to wear a revealing dress at her wedding right after. it’s not about her dress itself or how olivia looked, it was the undertone of her statements and hypocrisy. it’s valid to agree or disagree with her statements, everyone should wear what they feel beautiful and comfortable in and can see marriage in whatever way fits for them. it was the way her statements were said. i personally don’t care that olivia said it even if i disagree but the criticism is valid just like olivia’s opinions are as well. i just find the after party dress looking the way it does after those statements incredibly funny
And what was that thing she wore as 2nd dress? It looks like something one would wear while pretending to be a toddler . But her hubby thinks she’s most beautiful when she’s covered ….. so she wears a diaper with a sheer cage tutu on top? WTH?
She also ignored OG creator video - she showed muslim and other modest dresses
She said what she didint like about olivias gown
It Had NOTHING to do with the fact that it was MODEST DRESS
She wanted something modest for the actual ceremony...for her actual vows...in an actual church that she likely considers is holy and sacred. Her after party is not a religious ceremony...it is a party so she dressed for a party. Don't know why people are having such a hard time understanding the major difference between two very different things. It isn't rocket science😂😂😂
Exactly
@@mizzLopezit’s not rocket science but it screams hypocrisy « I dress as a modest wife at the church but as a stripper for the after party », she said in her itw she wanted to be « covered, timeless and elegant for her husband because this is how he likes her » ( so it has nothing to do with her faith), the two dresses were like the total opposites. If you are a modest woman with certain values go for it but if you just act like it for the narrative you want to put out there don’t be surprised if people point it out. Like the influencer said there was nothing wrong with the dress just the false narrative surrounding it.
I love the elegance of her wedding dress. Sometimes lack of lace and fancy lines is very elegant, especially with the rich fabric used for her dress. I totally love it!
yep, I totally agree with you. I love it too.
I personally am not a fan but I do admit it looks elegant
I personally like the dress...I DON'T care for the after party dress nor the attitude of the bride and groom. 😅
The after wedding dress looks like lamp shade.
Didn’t like either. The gown was too much fabric at the waist
I liked the dress. It looked right for the first bride. I say whatever the bride feels comfortable and beautiful in on her day, Bravo. Not every bride will like the same style of dress. So let it be, and the bride should ignore what others say. Just remember your wedding day with happiness.
I got married after church in my church dress (it was a milky pink dress), never wanted a big or flashy fancy dress. The wedding night was just me and hubs going out to eat at red lobsters, me drinking my favorite cocktail, and a whole night of old cartoons and passion. Loved it.
I hope you have a wonderful life afterwards!❤
Yall I am loving the pettiness of the editor today. Living for this today. I really needed some pure petty and genuine laughter. Yall doing Gods work.
Yes!! The editor killed it! When the dictionary definition of a photograph started. Chef's kiss
@@HiThere-yr9eg I lost it!!!! Literally cackled.
"By saying what your choices are, you're also cutting down other peoples choices." Unless she said all brides should be modest or if you're not modest like me you're not doing it the right way, no it isn't. It is her voicing her choice for herself. If she had said exactly the same thing and substituted modest with flirty, fun or sexy, no one would have an issue.
Edit: spelling
Exactly! Olivia never said that
💯 We live in a very strange society if someone is stating their preference for something translates to putting down someone else. Unless someone explicitly says something against another it shouldn’t be a problem.
Literally, love Charlotte but that is a crazy thing to say.
I was thinking the same thing! When I go shopping with my husband and say "I'd prefer something more modest" it's not shaming people for wanting something else. It's my preference. (But we don't call it modest lol we call it "Brittiny approved" because I don't like the word modest)
Well maybe the bride should stop freaking out and calling people evil for a random persons opinion of their VERY PUBLIC AND PARTNERED wedding dress.
Olivia Culpo 100% made her dress choice & wedding about "not being like other girls". There is no way there's no judgement in those words about being "covered". Even modesty is kind of a loaded term.
@@sallakolehmainen4535 I don't know enough about the Olivia situation. But I disagree when you say the word modesty is a loaded term.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to be modest and non-sexualized. I think your negativity to that term sounds like the arguments objecting to vilifying women who dress with less layers.
But both points are valid. Men are in charge of their own thoughts and actions so a woman should Not be vilified because she wears less layers in her own view of what's sexy. But someone dressed modestly can still be sexy and beautiful and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either.
It all boils down to we shouldn't be vilifying Anyone based on their clothes.
@@jl5442 As someone who grew up ultra conservative, modesty IS a loaded word to many people. The fact that her after party dress was the complete opposite of everything she said invalidated her opinion.
@@jl5442 hard, hard disagree. But be glad you have no religious trauma...or sad that you're still buried balls deep in it. But either way, modesty is a HUGELY loaded term and it has been used to shame and vilify women for centuries.
@@eiremerald she was marrying in a church.... did she have to wear a bikini?
@@jl5442Equating modesty with being non-sexualised is the very problem. If you say you want to dress modestly not to be sexualised, you’re in effect saying anybody wearing revealing clothing is welcoming being sexualised. That’s pretty close to victim blaming women for being slut shamed. Its unhealthy, harmful and misogynistic.
The reception "dress" looks like a playboy bunny prom look. The bride goes from a very reserved, elegant, respectable look to a hoochie mama in no time.
I agree. To talk about purity and sanctity of marriage and then go to that kind of reception dress...I guess at that point she *is* married and sanctified and all that but it is quite incongruent.
Pretty freaking certain the wedding dress and her tomfoolery about modesty in the interview has more to do with her husband (and possibly inlaws) than her personal beliefs.
Not to mention her very obvious superiority complex 🤣
I'm a modest type, too. I would probably wear something close to, but not as boring, as her wedding dress. She spent how much on a D&G that looks like something you could get from the Sears and Roebucks catalogue? X-D But I think that the after party dress was cute! I wouldn't wear it. But it did contradict everything that she seemed to claim to stand for. Also, if this was a church wedding, it makes sense still to wear something somewhat conservative. That's just my opinion.
15:58 there are always 2 sides to everything and i recommend watching jessica koebesi's video where the photographer is actually interviewed and broke her silence. It's very interesting and from what i recall, the photographer did a lot for the bride even things the bride asked for and the bride still wasn't happy. And then at the end of the day the photographer did a no no and sent the bride her raw photos just ro try and make her happy.
2:32 idk if it make sense or not but the moment i saw the picture i feel like the person as in general she gives the vibe and the dress she's wearing actually matches perfectly like it says "me" you know.. so i think the dress and the person wearing it really blends the personality and the confidence comes on the surface.. like for example from big bang theory show where Amy wears a pile of swan dress still it actually felt beautiful with here quirky choices and the whole moment felt happy.. so yeah.. if it make sense hit a like thank you❤
Bro I literally watched that episode yesterday. When she came out in it I was surprised Penny didn’t like it because you’re right, that dress was VERY Amy and she looked at home in it.
@@musicyak3471 exactly!
1:30 I hate that they call this style "modest", like.. what does that mean? You have to be covered to be considered "modest"? If not, that means you are not? I hate that.
Words have meaning. Like an actual definition. It's like wanting to be called fit when your refuse to exercise. "What does that mean ? You have to exercise to be considered "fit ? If not, that means that you are not ?" Yep. That's how it works.
Yes? If you're modest, you're not showing your body. If you're not modest, you are. The dress covers her, so it's modest. It's that simple. Not that being modest is superior. It's your personal choice.
@@JesusIsKing1008 modestie is a value, you see modesty in how people act not by judging them by the lenght of their clothes 🙃
@@annotherme7954 modesty is a value, not a clothes lenght
@amoregratidao3352 it's both. Modesty in clothes and in values. The dress is modest as in the opposite of sexual.
Heres some context for the photography drama so that you understand the woman was a complete bridezilla.
1. They pushed for a larger package of around 2000 photos (usually its a few hundred).
2. She made a big deal of the price being $8k but did not disclose to everyone that it was a MULTI-DAY DESTINATION WEDDING. The rate also includes hourly editing
3. She had recieved the finished album and initially told the photographer she was very happy with it. Did not raise an issue until almost a month later!
4. Asked for re-edits 3x which the photographer DID oblige and re-edit.
5. Was still not happy with the re-edits and threatened her with social media outburst.
6. Asked for RAWS which SHE GOT. fyi asking for RAWs in the photography industry is a BIG no no, it just is.
7. Proceeded to point out a bunch of problems online that she didnt initally tell the photographer about.
8. Her portfolio is plain as day on her insta, they ALL have that tone
So yeah, no way were theres only 10 or so solo bride shots in an album of 2k. Sometimes a few deepset eyed shadows slip through . Yes photographer should have said no to so many photos. Also clarified the clients issue even if they dont know how to properly communicate it before going ahead with edits. But this woman is putting a photographer on blast simply because she didnt realise she actually wanted natural/ neutral notes instead of warm tones nor how to say it.
"Asking for raws in photography is a big no no" - sis where? Almost every package I've ever seen has included a USB of the raws at a pretty reasonable price, this is nonsense 🤣
I agree the lady was in the wrong about a lot but even in modeling I've gotten the raws for free sometimes. This is just patently untrue.
@@quantumkitty128 it's not nonsense. Literally do me a favour and type into google "do photographers give out raws" and look at all those search results. Or even r/askphotography, alternatively watch Jessica kobessei's video on the sepia gate drama. She explains it from a photographers POV plus a follow up video where she breaks down the photographers very own interview on the matter. Just because you've experienced something one way doesn't mean that's how it always is.
Takes less than 30secs to fact check, I was also confused so I researched it.
Thanks for the update
The definition of a photograph took me out 😂😂
I like Olivia's dress, the close up, where you saw the sleeves and it had these little rounded pads just at the shoulder. the way it's shaped and the bodice it self makes me think of mid Elizabethen era. I cant remember if it was Mary queen of scotrs or another 16th century queen but there's a portrait of a queen in solid white. if you took away the decorative details such as jewels, brocades etc and left it plain Olivia's dress is literally a modern revision of that gown, which I find quite fascinating. I don't know if 16th century was part of the references for what she visioned in her gown But for me it looks like a modern recreation of mid Elizabethan dress and I'm loving
I so profoundly don’t give a sht that it’s very entertaining to see how everyone is getting so worked up, and from every direction
Hahaha SAME 🍿
9:40 not the wedding day, but the dress is about the bride. Also, Olivia could’ve enjoyed her dress without coming across as a pick me.
First story - When I first saw this dress, my first thought was Grace Kelly's wedding dress. It's classic and stylish. She's obviously not a prude by any means, but she feels the actual ceremony should be classic and traditional vs the current styles of today. Nothing wrong with that. And for her to state her reasoning didn't imply anything for other brides' dress choices. Only her own beliefs. This is shown by her choice of dress for the reception. People need to stop getting offended over misconceived slights.
Exactly👏👏👏 I wasn't offended or triggered...people r just looking to be offended ...they call her pick me I call them Jealous and petty
Nah, the creator literally said she didn't like it and that it lacked personality, which she admits is a subjective opinion, and coupled with *who* designed the dress, I agree. It's a nice dress. She looked great in it. Other people are allowed to say they didn't like it without being called 'evil'.
The reaction on her wording is just a bunch of insecure people trying to put words into her mind she never said and claim she is problematic.
Agreed but that’s (some) modern day feminist for ya. They act like they are for women when they just wanna tear em down 🤦♀️ it’s hypocrisy at its finest.
@@kyris66 What's wrong with DOlCE GABBANA. Is it for the slave sandals? The slave sandals which has nothing to do with America, but it's how in Italy we call those sandals because of Ancient Rome?
When you forget its a Charlotte upload day! **happy dance!!**
Love&light ✨️
Charlotte I’ve been going through all your videos since the start because I need more content 😂 early Charlotte was just as fun!
Ah yes, the Olivia Culpo issue. Like, hello ... Just leave people alone with their choices. Esp. if the bride is a full grown adult?!
Right?! It's so weird.
Thank you like get life
And if you share it in public and on media outlets, people are allowed to their opinion and can share it anywhere they want to
Olivia is trying to throw stones in a glass house. That's the issue.
Gonna be honest, I think people are overreacting. Saying that you want to look timeless and be covered doesn't mean that you think it's tacky for other people to do other things. So far I haven't seen any definitive examples of her actually shaming other women
Olivia culprit didn’t slam anyone who is wearing a revealing dress for their wedding! She talked about her choices for a CHURCH wedding! The after party wasn’t held in a church, so the second dress was appropriate!
Olivia Culpo, darn it
Doesn't make it less ugly though 😂
@@heatherlowe7330 that’s your opinion, she obviously liked it and I. Sure her husband did too.
we all wear clothes sometimes someone else doesn’t like but we love it! Why tear her down for it?
The edits and additions to your videos are always very well placed and done, but THIS video was just 🤌✨️ delicious!! Absolutely hilarious, entertaining and sassy! Master editing ❤
8:33 _"...by saying what your choices are, you're also cutting down other women's choices..."_
This is an insane take.
Yep! By this rule, saying “I wanted to wear something sexy because I think I should be able to show off my body at my wedding” should be equally offensive to people who don’t want to wear sexy dresses. Either that or it’s hypocrisy and fake outrage due to feeling self conscious about your own choices. 🙃
That's what I was thinking! I think Charlotte made an assumption of motive fallacy here... Also... willing to bet that Dolce Gabana is neither racist nor homophobic but unfortuantely probably had the "wrong" opinion about something.
To be fair - the afterparty dress does contradict "i want to look modest" lol but by no means should anyone have felt like she was Slut-shaming... if they did, then that's projection.
Totally agree. If I'm saying I did this for my wedding because I think weddings should be (blank), that is not me cutting down anybody else. You do you sweetheart. But if I'm saying I think this is what a wedding should be like so that's why I'm doing it this way, that not meant as an insult. It's no more of an insult than if I said that chocolate cake should not be a wedding cake. You may have had a chocolate wedding cake and everybody may have loved. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to disagree. My disagreement doesn't somehow make your wedding bad in any way. We all have varying opinions which makes us individuals.
@@szechuon6971D&G does actually have a well documented history of problematic behavior.
@@crenner07the Slave sandal is one shining example.
The dress assumptions are similar to a problem I have occasionally when telling people I homeschool my children. Some women will get defensive as if I am saying they aren't doing enough for their kids because they don't. No, you asked what school my kid goes to, I answered the question. I think the problem is people assuming judgment and being defensive. She was asked about her dress and make up, she answered the questions.
First story - She never shamed anyone for their wedding dress choices, I think people are projecting that intention. I read her statements.. there was simply no judgement, only what she wanted for herself
Exactly👏👏👏
Including Charlotte, which left a bad taste in my mouth. She literally said by stating her one choice, she is inherently "cutting down" women that have a different choice. That's an absolutely ridiculous statement, I am surprised she left it in
Thank you! That's what I wanted to say. You can take the wedding so seriously that you prefer a very solemn gown and then want to celebrate with a weird looking party dress afterward. Lol it's so funny all the coping for someone else's personal choices.
@@SparklesWithStyleI was surprised too that anyone would have thought the bride was even implying that others’ choices were wrong. I did not get that in any way. She was merely stating her preferences and why because of her respect for the sanctity of the marriage ceremony.
Exactly...how sad the world has become if someone simply explaining why SHE chose to have modest dress for the CEREMONY suddenly gets spun into a "she's a pick me! She's looking down on others for showing more skin!" when she didn't?? No wonder she reacted so poorly in return, I would too (not online, definitely take a breather cuz the internet is forever) if everyone decided I was some sort of "repressed, internalised misogynist" when ALL I stated was MY choice to wear what I wore to MY ceremony!
Not liking the style and cut is one thing, it's another to project some weird sense of guilt that turned into full blown anger onto her and decide she's some sort of pick me for being serious about the religious aspect of the big day!? Is the world topsy-turvy??
The first segment about the wedding dress: it is gorgeous and so classy for a fall or winter wedding! It is stunning!!!
Olivia's dress is gorgeous! It's exactly what she wants and she's beautiful in it
That after party dress was ugly though.
Everyone agreed it was beautiful. That wasn't the problem.
She didn't shame anyone's dresses. It's so stupid to not like the dress because of what the bride SAID about it. If she dressed very revealing and said she wanted to be "as sexy as possible" the same people would be saying "slayyyyy girl"
Exactly
Exactly. Such hater vibes.
If she wasn't playing some kind of "pick me" card, why did she lie about not wearing makeup? It's the implication that ANYTHING LESS than what she was wearing would be EXUDING sexuality, would not be taking her vows seriously. She dresse fairly provocatively in her every day life, but dressing in her normal style for this will somehow undermine her vows. She's pushing this narrative that her way is the only way to take your marriage seriously. And it's fine if you don't pick up on it, some people are more sensitive to certain kinds of rhetoric.
But I ask you, why would she turn around and LIE about wearing MAKEUP?
It's the mixed messages and the weird implications about other choices available that make this a trad wife dogwhistle, not the dress itself.
@Steeksify the interviewer asked her questions, and she answered them with her own opinion about her own wedding and her own marriage. All the women screaming 'pick me' just wish they were the one picked. In my opinion ☺️
@@MsSwizzyy 🙄The ones defending her exude "I think I'm hot shit but I feel really insecure about myself, and think that its love when my SO feels threatened by others". In my opinion. 🥰
Again, why the hell did she lie about wearing makeup? Furthermore, this shit was on her own personal social media, so don't even act like she was just answering questions.
The first dress is absolutely STUNNING. Each to their own.
It is beautiful, but I personally would never wear it. I can't stand having a collar that close to my neck, it makes me feel like I'm choking.
I personally don't like it, mainly the fabric, but I am appalled people are taking up torches and pitchforks, including Charlotte, for merely talking about her wedding choices. Itt ridiculous
The Olivia Culpo drama is the equivalent of someone saying they like waffles, and people perceiving it as she hates pancakes.
2:00 a reaction video within a reaction video within a reaction video...😅
My fiancé always comments on these situations ‘you realize you’re watching a reaction of someone else’s reaction of something else?’ 🤣
That little pause with the definition of photograph made me laugh out loud😂😂😂 full LOL
16:47 Don't worry babes, you can use the best photographer at your next wedding.
😂😂😂
I used to be a photographer. My mentor and business partner taught me that people don’t buy your photos, they buy your editing.
If she was married in a church, it may have been her way of respecting the space she was in.
BRO THAT FIRST DRESS IS BEAUTIFUL I WANT IT
I LOVE the dress. It's architectually beautifully constructed. IT IS OLIVIA'S DRESS and it's exquisite. The wedding was in a church. She looked angelic.
I loved it too 😂 when you make your big day public it means anyone can comment and they're gonna!! But that dress was timeless and she looked amazing 😍
Architecturally? It's fashion, not a Gothic castle 🤣
It was genuinely the most boring design I've ever seen - and sure, some people love classic and timeless.
But this wasn't timeless because it has no character whatsoever, it has no hallmarks of any time period. It has no defining features.
No dress has ever been less interesting in the history of the world.
One little science note. The sky and ocean are both blue for the same reason but one is not blue because of the other. Each color is a different wavelength and blue just so happens to be the easiest to scatter making it more easily visible. This is also why in most kinds of colorblindness blue is still a visible or vibrant color. No hate just a fun fact 🩵
Part of modesty that people often forget is modesty in appearance and actions. It’s also not drawing undue attention to yourself. So, the dress being “bland” is part of it being a modest dress. It pulls focus off the bride and onto the marriage event. She’s easier to overlook, and the marriage becomes the focus. Great for commitment to your partner, bad for a celebrity and/or influencer who is doing a fashion spread in a fashion magazine. I think the dress is lovely, but the two ideas “look at me. I’m in a magazine” and “don’t look at me, I’m modest” are opposed so I don’t think people like that, subconsciously.
I don’t think Olivia was shaming other brides for their choices she was just stating how she wanted to look on her wedding day. The tik toker was actually shaming her for choice and everything she found unappealing about the dress going so far as to say it lacked personality, as if she knows her to say that. Also we need to stop getting butt hurt when people state their likes or preferences for themselves and take that as a personal attack or judgement of you. Like come on people don’t have to like what you like or be into what your into were each our own person
I agree with this
Thank you, so true
Totally agree
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I don’t understand why people are mad at Olivia Culpo saying what SHE wanted for HER wedding look and what it meant to HER. She never once said anything about other brides. She stated her opinions about her day. And the reception dress being a bit more revealing makes sense - the religious ceremony is done, and now it’s a party. I feel like people need to get over themselves in this instance 🤷🏻♀️ it’s different than that one bride who was like “there’s nothing uglier than an immodest bride” or something along those lines
Exactly this. I was so confused as to why people were so upset when she was literally just saying what SHE wanted for herself. Women being able to wear what they want goes both ways.
Your lack of comprehension skills doesn’t change reality. Let me explain in terms you will understand. She didn’t EXPLICITLY said anything about other brides but she implying that having a non matronly dress means you want to sexualize yourself, which reinforces the dangerous idea that clothes have anything to do with wanting s€x. And she’s a I’m so pretty I don’t need makeup p/ckme. And she is also a hypocrite cause her after party outfit is basically stripper version of moulin rouge fits.
Yes!! The way people were trying to make her out to be JUST LIKE that "immodest is ugly" bride was nuts!
She was talking about HERSELF. At NO POINT did she drag other women who did their wedding differently from hers down to make herself look better, she took the ceremony seriously but then let her hair down for the AFTERPARTY! How "hypocritical"! 🙄 It's almost like there's a DIFFERENCE between a religious ceremony and a party that's suppose to be nothing BUT FUN! 😑
Agreed!
its the way she basically sic'ed her fans on gowneyedbeauty, and that she wasn't honest about her makeup, and i totally respected her reasoning until her reception dress.....a tube-top-booty-shorts bodysuit under a tiny sheer hoop-skirt, doesn't reflect how she said she wanted her wedding to be or feel. Culpo genuinely looked like just another glammed up Las Vegas Bride at her reception. dime-a-dozen. I was hoping to see her in something more elegant and regal. like a chiffon a-line with quarter-sleeves would have looked ephemeral, especially with a shorter version of her veil.
but as a photographer, i would have picked a less busy backgroud, because everything around her really drowns her out in my eyes. the photo of her and her husband together was amazing in composition, it was about THEM, her solos should have been about HER, not there room she was in.
Okay, I think Olivia looked beautiful! As for the article, we don’t know what was edited out! Olivia could have made additional comments that the editors decided to omit for whatever reason! Give me break people! There are much better things to debate than her dress and interview for Vogue.
I think Olivia's dress is regal, elegant, and beautiful... I love the dresses that aren't too flashy, to me simple is better that way you can see the Bride's natural beauty but if it's a flashy, blingy dress then that takes away from the Bride's natural beauty. It was Olivia's choice so people should just leave it be. What's that saying? If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all!?
I feel like calling someone EVIL for not liking your wedding dress is such an overreaction, like bro yall don't even know each other why tf do you care if she likes it and why is it evil of her to give an honest review?
I think the simplicity of Olivia's dress is what made it pop, if that makes any sense.