Helpful tip for anyone making a decision based on "smaller gaps" in the grill. More grill means less airflow. The Sirocco II blades are finger safe, flexible plastic which means it can do away with a safety guard so you're getting all the intended airflow.
@@GetCampingOz so the finger safe fans are sometimes sorely lacking in pointability and CFMs. I'M LOOKING AT YOU COLEMAN. I would check return policies before buying
6 months with the nce, its been great. oscillating is perfect to sleep under from head to toe. Never had a sirocco but I don't need to, more than happy with nce
I couldn't decide , so purchased one of each model. Sirocco cost $169 while NCE cost $100, quite a big difference. Both perform well, although I like the NCE for functionality and price.
I have 2 nce fans, one has failed with the push buttons not working and both of the fans pickup on wifi signal hotspot and start / stop/ light on/ swivel at random intervals. If they worked as described they would be ideal, cheap Chinese controls are the issue
Yes, think I have the same a problem, have you found a fix?. I just bought 2 , installed one via 12V, all went well and worked (except setting 2 is no different to 1 as people are saying), turned it off and it randomly came on 20 mins later. Ive been inside the van this afternoon and it has come on 3 times over 2 hrs, each time I turn it off at the base or remote, stays off for a while then randomly turns itself on (fand and/or light). Hmmmm.
You have not gone into the mounting details or if the cord comes out the side or rear of the units. I need to mount mine on a vertical surface in my teardrop like the sirocco, is this possible?
The wiring comes out from the base of the units. It actually gets covered by the base it self so no wires are shown. Yes it’s possible to mount this on the vertical surface but for max airflow you will need to angle the fan slightly from the base. Hope that helps
We have lived with the NCE fans in our caravan for about 2 months, and we've found them to be pretty disappointing. 2 of them have fallen off of their mounts completely when trying to adjust multiple times, and one is broken awaiting replacement. They also get really dusty and are in turn harder to clean due to the grill and multiple fan blades. And also don't see any difference in fan speed between speeds 1 and 2. We're now looking at adding in a few sirocco's. At the end of the day - it's a fan, it doesn't need to be fancy - it just needs to reliably push air around.
Something else to keep in mind besides remote, if you desire to turn it on and off by unplugging it or adding an inline switch this will not work. You have to use the base switch. There is some type of circuit that powers the fan. So you will have to have it within reach. Also, it really isn't all that powerful.
Bought two NCE, one already will not work on the remote. worked for a short period but then wouldn't work on the remote. Quiet but both bugger to switch off either with the remote or the fan control. Starting to worry how they will go when we travel next week for three months. Let you know.
I checked one these out in a store then decided to buy one on-line. The one in the store worked perfectly but the one I bought had the same issue as yours.. no difference in speed between setting 1 and 2. I've contacted NCE and now waiting for a reply. I attached the clips from the original Jayco lights so the NCE attaches to hockey stick pole over the bed and works well.
Thanks for the comment. Have you heard back from NCE? It didnt really bother me that much, but i would have expected to be a difference in speed. Cheers Adam
I’ve searched the internet high and low trying to find a fan with a light for our RV. Unfortunately I can’t find the fan available in the United States. Thanks for the review.
In my caravan if I mounted on the roof face the bed can I turn it all the way around to the kitchen and then turn it on to or will it always have to face the bed
Hello and thanks for your review. I understand there’s no timer in the NCE, correct? What about the noise levels? I think you don’t say the NCE’ parameters in terms of decibels. Again, thanks!!
@@GetCampingOz Noise levels weren't displayed properly for the NCE as you were talking over the top of it so we're none the wiser. Decibel meter had a combination of talking and fan, whereas for the Sirocco, there was no talk.
There is screw’s the are used to the base plate. Its very solid. I think that the Sirocco does have an easier mounting system. It uses a double side foam pad as well as screws.
Very useful clip, thanks for that. NCE it is for me! I understand from your answer to a previous post that you can attach a 12v cigarette lighter plug to the bare wires rather than hard wiring the fan. Apologies for my ignorance, but is it also possible to hook it up with a USB plug? Our camper van has quite a few USB ports. Thanks…
No worries Peter. Glad it helped. Unfortunately USB only provide 5 volt (even though they are usually plugged into a 12v system). You could connect off the back of the USB plug for your power source. These fans don’t pull much power so it would be fine to do so. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Thanks for doing this video. Just wondering, how bright is the night light on the NCE fan? Would it be bright enough for kids to use as a reading light if the fans are mounted up beside them in their bunks do you think?
Thanks for the comparison. I do think it should be pointed out that the power requirements for these two fans are perhaps not as close as suggested- it piqued my interest so I looked into it. - The amperage draw for the NCE looks significantly higher than the Sirocco II. The LOW/2nd speed setting on the NCE is twice the current draw for the Sirocco II and NCE's setting 3 is the same as High on the Sirocco II. Also, how much air does the NCE actually push? NCE provides RPM details which is completely meaningless (and I suspect intentional as it likely doesn't push as much air as their competitor's product). C'mon, they're DC fans... lets talk about power consumption and CFM, no? Even a simple test with a lightly weighted ribbon could be used to demonstrate which fan was blowing more air at say 1 foot distance (~.3 meter) and this would be valuable if you ever do a followup video. - Caframo provides CFM data for the high/low speeds for their product: Low: 125CFM at 0.06 amps (12v) or 0.72 watts and High: 185CFM at 0.35 amps (12v) which is 4.2 watts. - So for those who have low power consumption requirements, it looks like you would get twice your battery time from a Sirocco II on Low speed compared to the NCE on Low/2nd, and 24% more on the presumption that the high speed on the NCE and Scirocco II are both around 185 CFM and you are using each to get the maximum airflow. -Another point I would like to make- its rarely a good idea to combine two different functions into one device if you have to rely on it- think of those ridiculous TV/VCR combos... one half goes out and the other becomes useless. Less is more sometimes, and if you have to rely on "it" out in Nowhereville, I think I don't have to belabor that point too much more. -We don't get the NCE fan here in the USA but the Scirocco II is available so it makes for an easier choice for me, plus they've proven themselves over time and I have power constraints to work around. I'd rather not have to send a fan back to AU to get what little warranty out of it if I had to, it wouldnt' be worth the wait or shipping expense... the Scirocco II was $109 USD for me here in the USA and I got it in two days plus 2 year warranty specified ,and I couldn't find the warranty on the NCE website. I do sincerely appreciate your review, and hope the points above help others decide what is right for them.
Thanks for the comments. I’m certainly not an expert or claim to be. My observation on both units are genuine. They both have good and bad points. At the end of the day they are still low power draw regardless of what you choose. If power was that tight that you were unsure which to choose I would suggest you need to re think your setup as ultimately the over all consumption shouldn’t be the deciding factor. Appreciate your in depth analysis. Cheers
The sirroco fan will not break even in high if a stick finger or toe goes into the opening. It will startle you but will not hurt you. Yes, even toes from experience.
Nice fans but who wants to spend 150$ on a 12v fan I guess I'll stick with the 20$ Amazon fan and still get free shipping. I was hooked and going to buy one and almost choked when I saw the price.
Not quite true as these fans are 12v DC and "The Clapper" that you refer to is 120v AC.... now one could DIY a 12v DC solution with a similar setup but that product is not compatible with this pair of fans power requirements
Helpful tip for anyone making a decision based on "smaller gaps" in the grill. More grill means less airflow. The Sirocco II blades are finger safe, flexible plastic which means it can do away with a safety guard so you're getting all the intended airflow.
Thanks
@@GetCampingOz so the finger safe fans are sometimes sorely lacking in pointability and CFMs. I'M LOOKING AT YOU COLEMAN. I would check return policies before buying
I been looking for user reviews on these fans, thank god I finally found some as I am going to fit 2 in our fan. Looks like it will be Sirocco.
Yeh I like the NCE but I think the Sirocco has the edge. It would be nice if it had a remote though… 😉
Thanks for the review. I saw these at the recent Brisbane Caravan and Camping show. Looks the goods for us so I am investigating further.
Definitely a great fan. Either way i you cant go wrong!
6 months with the nce, its been great. oscillating is perfect to sleep under from head to toe. Never had a sirocco but I don't need to, more than happy with nce
That’s great!
I couldn't decide , so purchased one of each model.
Sirocco cost $169 while NCE cost $100, quite a big difference.
Both perform well, although I like the NCE for functionality and price.
Thanks for your review!! very helpful! We are just about to pop some in our van.. I think the NCE is a win for us! and I was set on the sirocco!
Thanks Julie! Glad it helped. The NCE is a great fan which I’m sure you’ll enjoying. Thanks for watching 😀
Solid review, mate. Definitely gave me ALL the information I needed to make my decision. Thank you.
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching
I've been looking for a good 12v fan for my fish house and you did a very good job with this video thumbs up thank you very much great info
No worries. Glad you enjoyed
Very informative, thanks. The oscillation on the NCE is a bonus.
Glad it was helpful!
Good to see an unbiased and great video again.
What was the difference in prices?
Thanks 😃 About $50 difference between the two. Check the description for the links 👍🏻
I have 2 nce fans, one has failed with the push buttons not working and both of the fans pickup on wifi signal hotspot and start / stop/ light on/ swivel at random intervals. If they worked as described they would be ideal, cheap Chinese controls are the issue
Our nce fan has the new auto turn on feature which you didn’t go into. We have had it come on several times so out with it to be replaced by a sirocco
I’ve never seen that happen. Did you claim it under warranty?
Yes, think I have the same a problem, have you found a fix?. I just bought 2 , installed one via 12V, all went well and worked (except setting 2 is no different to 1 as people are saying), turned it off and it randomly came on 20 mins later. Ive been inside the van this afternoon and it has come on 3 times over 2 hrs, each time I turn it off at the base or remote, stays off for a while then randomly turns itself on (fand and/or light). Hmmmm.
You have not gone into the mounting details or if the cord comes out the side or rear of the units. I need to mount mine on a vertical surface in my teardrop like the sirocco, is this possible?
The wiring comes out from the base of the units. It actually gets covered by the base it self so no wires are shown. Yes it’s possible to mount this on the vertical surface but for max airflow you will need to angle the fan slightly from the base. Hope that helps
We have lived with the NCE fans in our caravan for about 2 months, and we've found them to be pretty disappointing. 2 of them have fallen off of their mounts completely when trying to adjust multiple times, and one is broken awaiting replacement. They also get really dusty and are in turn harder to clean due to the grill and multiple fan blades. And also don't see any difference in fan speed between speeds 1 and 2. We're now looking at adding in a few sirocco's. At the end of the day - it's a fan, it doesn't need to be fancy - it just needs to reliably push air around.
That’s disappointing. Your exactly right we just need it to be fan. Nothing more!
The remote control can also be stored in the middle of the fan with the nce logo facing outwards.
Whoa! Wow I did not know that! Thanks for letting me know. Cheers Adam
Something else to keep in mind besides remote, if you desire to turn it on and off by unplugging it or adding an inline switch this will not work. You have to use the base switch. There is some type of circuit that powers the fan. So you will have to have it within reach. Also, it really isn't all that powerful.
Thanks for the tip! Cheers Adam
Bought two NCE, one already will not work on the remote. worked for a short period but then wouldn't work on the remote. Quiet but both bugger to switch off either with the remote or the fan control. Starting to worry how they will go when we travel next week for three months. Let you know.
Did you claim warranty? Interested to know how they are going?
I checked one these out in a store then decided to buy one on-line. The one in the store worked perfectly but the one I bought had the same issue as yours.. no difference in speed between setting 1 and 2.
I've contacted NCE and now waiting for a reply.
I attached the clips from the original Jayco lights so the NCE attaches to hockey stick pole over the bed and works well.
Thanks for the comment. Have you heard back from NCE? It didnt really bother me that much, but i would have expected to be a difference in speed. Cheers Adam
Thank you for this video. Is it possible to attach a three point plug or cigarette lighter fitting to the end of the wiring?
No problem at all. 100% you can. A friend of mine has the NCE and had a cigarette lighter plug wired on and it works perfectly. Thanks for watching 😎
I’ve searched the internet high and low trying to find a fan with a light for our RV. Unfortunately I can’t find the fan available in the United States. Thanks for the review.
No worries Jacob. Have you contacted RV Parts Australia? They maybe able to ship state side for you 😎
Your review is fan tastic also!
Glad you think so!
In my caravan if I mounted on the roof face the bed can I turn it all the way around to the kitchen and then turn it on to or will it always have to face the bed
Hi Tony! Unfortunately it only oscillates 120 degrees from the original mounting position. Hope that helps.
Isn't the Scirocco having a lot of vibration at level 2 and 3?
Nah its not bad, definitely doesn't wobble
Hello and thanks for your review.
I understand there’s no timer in the NCE, correct?
What about the noise levels? I think you don’t say the NCE’ parameters in terms of decibels.
Again, thanks!!
Yeh no timer on the NCE. Noise levels are about the same. I didn’t talk about them but are displayed from the 6:50 mark. Thanks for watching 😀
@@GetCampingOz Noise levels weren't displayed properly for the NCE as you were talking over the top of it so we're none the wiser. Decibel meter had a combination of talking and fan, whereas for the Sirocco, there was no talk.
How does the NCE compare in low power usage?
Not a lot of difference at all. Both very low
Can’t really mount the NCE on pole clips if you are in a camper
Thanks for the info. I’m sure something could be rigged up to work 👍🏻
Hey just wondering how does the nce fan mount ? I can’t find how they mount, they look great
There is screw’s the are used to the base plate. Its very solid. I think that the Sirocco does have an easier mounting system. It uses a double side foam pad as well as screws.
yes, I also found this to be a problem, but managed in the end
Very useful clip, thanks for that. NCE it is for me! I understand from your answer to a previous post that you can attach a 12v cigarette lighter plug to the bare wires rather than hard wiring the fan. Apologies for my ignorance, but is it also possible to hook it up with a USB plug? Our camper van has quite a few USB ports. Thanks…
No worries Peter. Glad it helped. Unfortunately USB only provide 5 volt (even though they are usually plugged into a 12v system). You could connect off the back of the USB plug for your power source. These fans don’t pull much power so it would be fine to do so. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Can we install the wire into a plug that fits into a 12v cigarette lighter socket.
Sure can!
Hey just wondering do you know if anyone is selling these in sunshine coast
I only know RV parts that sell them. Hey hey do post though. Cheers Adam
Any idea where we can buy the NCE stateside?
Thanks for watching. Unsure where but I reckon if you contacted NCE they should be able to help 😀
Hey bud - what are your thoughts on Sirocco Vs. Fresca? Any review?
Hey mate, no review on the Fresca, but looks to be a clone of the Sirocco. I may look to compare some time next year. Cheers
Great comparison ! Great video. Thank you !
Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated
wish we could see the CFM reading off a machine...
Yeh something I would have like to do but didn’t have the machine
@@GetCampingOz 2.0 video!!! ;) Thanks for the review any how!
Just made my decision. NCE wins for reasons:
1. Oscillation
2. Smaller gaps
3. Remote
4. Light
It definitely is a great fan and also cheaper 😀
Thanks for doing this video. Just wondering, how bright is the night light on the NCE fan? Would it be bright enough for kids to use as a reading light if the fans are mounted up beside them in their bunks do you think?
Sorry for the late reply. It could be done but it’s more of a mood light than a reading light.
I only counted 5 blades?
Yeh that’s correct. I did say 6 but corrected in the vid with text saying 5. Cheers
Thanks for the comparison. I do think it should be pointed out that the power requirements for these two fans are perhaps not as close as suggested- it piqued my interest so I looked into it.
- The amperage draw for the NCE looks significantly higher than the Sirocco II. The LOW/2nd speed setting on the NCE is twice the current draw for the Sirocco II and NCE's setting 3 is the same as High on the Sirocco II. Also, how much air does the NCE actually push? NCE provides RPM details which is completely meaningless (and I suspect intentional as it likely doesn't push as much air as their competitor's product). C'mon, they're DC fans... lets talk about power consumption and CFM, no? Even a simple test with a lightly weighted ribbon could be used to demonstrate which fan was blowing more air at say 1 foot distance (~.3 meter) and this would be valuable if you ever do a followup video.
- Caframo provides CFM data for the high/low speeds for their product: Low: 125CFM at 0.06 amps (12v) or 0.72 watts and High: 185CFM at 0.35 amps (12v) which is 4.2 watts.
- So for those who have low power consumption requirements, it looks like you would get twice your battery time from a Sirocco II on Low speed compared to the NCE on Low/2nd, and 24% more on the presumption that the high speed on the NCE and Scirocco II are both around 185 CFM and you are using each to get the maximum airflow.
-Another point I would like to make- its rarely a good idea to combine two different functions into one device if you have to rely on it- think of those ridiculous TV/VCR combos... one half goes out and the other becomes useless. Less is more sometimes, and if you have to rely on "it" out in Nowhereville, I think I don't have to belabor that point too much more.
-We don't get the NCE fan here in the USA but the Scirocco II is available so it makes for an easier choice for me, plus they've proven themselves over time and I have power constraints to work around. I'd rather not have to send a fan back to AU to get what little warranty out of it if I had to, it wouldnt' be worth the wait or shipping expense... the Scirocco II was $109 USD for me here in the USA and I got it in two days plus 2 year warranty specified ,and I couldn't find the warranty on the NCE website.
I do sincerely appreciate your review, and hope the points above help others decide what is right for them.
Thanks for the comments. I’m certainly not an expert or claim to be. My observation on both units are genuine. They both have good and bad points. At the end of the day they are still low power draw regardless of what you choose. If power was that tight that you were unsure which to choose I would suggest you need to re think your setup as ultimately the over all consumption shouldn’t be the deciding factor. Appreciate your in depth analysis. Cheers
Very informative. Great comparison
Thanks Mick
U could just put a toggle switch on the power lead.
Yeh great idea!
The sirroco fan will not break even in high if a stick finger or toe goes into the opening. It will startle you but will not hurt you. Yes, even toes from experience.
Haha toes!!!
great review. thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching :)
Bought the NCE lights flickered as it was turned on lasted 2 seconds now in the bin
Did you get a refund?
NCE work for 3-5 days, sirocco are proper reliable and not build cheap like the NCE, game over NCE
We haven’t had any issues with ours. Did you claim warranty?
Thanks for your support! :)
Made in Canada Sirococococo
Nice fans but who wants to spend 150$ on a 12v fan I guess I'll stick with the 20$ Amazon fan and still get free shipping. I was hooked and going to buy one and almost choked when I saw the price.
Everyone has their budgets and that ok. They are pretty expensive for what they are
Price comparison be good
Thanks Karen. Noted for next time. Thanks for watching
5 blades on the fan not 6
Great pick up! I did realise this after it went live :)
Did I miss the part about the price of these units, oh it's only money I guess that doesn't really matter LOL
Links for pricing are in the description if you missed it. Thanks for watching
Brought the NCE after watching this video …..4 mths later it was noisy rubbish…about to replace it with a sirocco 2 !! Very disappointed
Oh really? Thats disappointing! We havent had any issues with ours at all. Did they replace it under warranty or get a refund?
You could've just used clap on clap off.
Not sure what you mean???
@@GetCampingOz The gadget that turns your desired electrics on or off.
Not quite true as these fans are 12v DC and "The Clapper" that you refer to is 120v AC.... now one could DIY a 12v DC solution with a similar setup but that product is not compatible with this pair of fans power requirements
that NCE is gona fill up with dust
Hasn’t yet. Can also be taken apart to clean if needed. Thanks for watching