Crazy, this is the series I been teaching for 40 years. Firemen, Short Carry with or without the leg . Short Carry to an arm drag. I was once told I was old school because I still showd this series and the cross face series to a cradle . Stuff work then and still works today. Great stuff.
Yeah man I’m obsessed with this series. People throw older moves out too fast because they think that they “won’t work on a good guy.” That’s why I always try to make my videos in a way that show that these technique work on elite wrestlers.
@@FunnyLaughVideos Nah. Up by 1, got tossed with 3 secs. left. Lost Freestyle final to Miles Martin. Came in 2nd at state in HS, too. Way out-performed his DNA potential, though.
I started wrestling late and I didn't wrestle for long, but the dump kind came to me naturally. I'm not even sure if I was ever taught the move, I just knew that I could get results. It's fun to see it used effectively at the highest level. RUclips would have been so cool to have back then.
same, the dump was something that just clicked for me, i didnt even practice it that much either. i would often do the dump and tap the knee instead of scooping it like a standard firemans
It was definitely part of my go-to series when I wrestled. I'm surprised nobody in the comments has mentioned a really great counter to the counter @2:44 . At my school we called it the Crusher, which is part of the series. When your opponent blocks to the inside of your knee, you reverse-hook that arm above the elbow with your off arm and grab the wrist of the first arm you have in the fireman's hold, which creates a lock. Then you roll him the other direction while pulling his elbow you have hooked. If you have it good and tight, your shoulder will be right in the center of his chest - hence the name Crusher. Now the arm that previously had the fireman's is free to grab behind his knee and elevate for the pin.
@matjul2008 I'd thought about that, but since no one responded, just kind of forgot. I need to find someone to do it with me, which is not as easy as it sounds. I was kind of surprised not even our host here mentioned this move, especially because he's so high on the fireman's series, or whatever one calls it, but thinking more about it, I only ever saw guys on my team use it, so maybe it's virtually unknown, though that's hard to believe. For more general info: I had never heard it called a "barrel roll" until I made friends with someone I'd wrestled from another school. We were talking and he said, "You really got me with those barrel rolls." I had rolled him the traditional direction the first time (sitting out and pulling the fireman's arm) and got the takedown and back points. Then, the second time he blocked with his hand (as at @2:44 ) and I hooked the arm and sat the other way for another takedown and back points. The only reason I didn't stick him was his brute strength. I don't think there's any other defense against it once it's locked up. At least not if you're experienced and don't make the mistake of sitting toward your opponent. At my school the series was called "Kelly's" (no idea why, or who that is, but googling it's proved pointless) and the hook to the crusher we called a "Hobbes' hook" (again, no idea who that might be or if I'm even spelling it right). I'll try to put together a minute or so video when I get time, preferably if I can find someone. Thing is, I never thought I'd be watching college wrestling videos more than thirty years after I'd ever been on a mat. I love this channel, too.
@matjul2008 @Sidney Musoba Okay, guys. I did this one quick because I think it'll make sense without the need for a partner. Let me know if it makes sense. ruclips.net/video/GTcTsrJmDpU/видео.html
This is a great series. When you fake drag or they stuff it, and you transition into a fireman's attempt and they stuff the fireman's, you're still deep enough that they they walk right into this dump. There's no great counter other than just preventing you from ever getting the two on one to begin with. And a lot of times people feel safe with the underhook when they're just not. As soon as the elbow gets trapped to the body, you lose all your "good" options. Even if you power out somehow just pulling back and up, they can just let go and switch to an outside ankle pick to single while your momentum is going the wrong way, and they're super deep before they even shoot.
Facts, as soon as you underhook the thigh or crotch and lift their feet off the ground even by half an inch they zero control left. And like you said the reason firemans is so good is becauze you can finish the takedown on somebody who sprawled on you
This series is amazing bc it works in every single style of grappling. You can even hit a form of a fireman’s/dump in judo or Greco!! Great moves to learn and know
At 4:15 dude looks like he's got nothing and is about to get crushed and yet he's about to flip the other guy on his butt. That's why I love these interesting techniques you are collecting on this channel.
just found your channel! Solid stuff with some fun clickbait spice. I do think it's the best takedown in all styles. Turning 2 points into 5 is what it''s all about!
I like your comment 😂. The titles definitely have a little something extra to them to make them stand out on RUclips. I noticed that the basic wrestling titles didn’t get too much love. I always try to live up to the hype I create though.
I find going for a traditional fireman and transitioning to the dump works really well, my major mistake early on was dropping rather than dumping. Landed on my head really hard a few times
Not trying to rain on your parade, coach. I have watched a number of your videos and I think you do a great job. That move was my bread and butter for 20 years and I don't think there is a more effective way to take a guy down to his back and make him fight for his life. But you should consider putting together some serious technique videos, as you say.
Just stumbled on this. Great vid and info. I can’t emphasize enough how tight your grip must be above the elbow. Almost to the point where it needs to be set up.
The no-leg variations of this throw are becoming increasingly popular in Judo with Lombardo, Heydarov, Bouchard, Molleai, etc. hitting it quite often and winning gold medals with it.
The wrestlers I chose I chose because they’re also going to be in videos 3/4 as well. Parris, Moore, Kharchla, and DiJulius all use the short drag as well. Since it’s a series, I wanted to the same wrestlers doing the moves throughout to have some continuity
Makes sense fundamentally. You get into a front headlock and more than often you're gonna be bent over with all their weight on you. If their weight is not on you then they're bullshitting and you're bullshitting. But it seems like the key is to hold onto the tricep for dear life and create enough torque to dump. Seems fool proof if mastered
Part of the reason the last guy is able to "chase" the move is if the opponent lets him keep that strong outside 2-on-one arm control, it's basically a free takedown. So having to fight that let's him dive into his inside head position to dump
In the first clip I think it's more of a block or post on the hip, if you try to push too hard you can start rotating in the wrong direction and lose power/base
I'm no wrestler. But this is my favorite move. I can usually find my way in. But my failed attempts look very similar. Now I know I don't have to bail out. Cheers
I wish I could give you a more direct answer, but I can’t. My honest opinion is once you learn one, getting good at the other two doesn’t require much more effort because you already have the base down. Because of this, instead of spamming one of them and being super predictable and less flexible, knowing all 3 will allow you to pick which one best fits that situation, therefore making it higher percentage
I’m saying if you know all 3 of them, they’re all be high percentage because let’s say you force a near leg dump when the far leg was the one that was open. And vice versa. The dump was there, just not the one that you were looking for. That’s why you should be able to do at least 2 of them, if not all 3.
@@user-tv1tp2fr1u the “no leg” seems to work better when the opponent fully sprawls out. I would grab a leg if they’re more so in a stance in order to remove that point of stability/balance
Trust me, I would NEVER miss Austin Desanto. One of my all-time favorite wrestlers. The wrestlers I chose I chose because they’re also going to be in videos 3/4. Parris, Moore, Kharchla, and DiJulius all use the short drag as well. Since it’s a series, I wanted to the same wrestlers doing the moves throughout
Yeah the dump is such a “feel” kind of move that this video wasn’t so much trying to teach exactly how to do it, but to show how many different ways you can set it up, finish it, and how it works on the best guys. I would have to do like an actually tutorial to try to really teach it
Get a microphone... just use headphones that you can plug into your phone and answer the phone with...slot of phones come with them...they have a microphone built in to the volume buttons part... just plug the headphones into what ever you are using and hold the volume buttons part near your mouth and it won't sound like you are on speaker phone 15 ft away
I have a Yeti USB Mic. I’ll play around with it tomorrow and see. At first my voice was too loud and close so I put the microphone away from me. I’ll improve on it. Thank you for the feedback 👌🏾
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Crazy, this is the series I been teaching for 40 years. Firemen, Short Carry with or without the leg . Short Carry to an arm drag. I was once told I was old school because I still showd this series and the cross face series to a cradle . Stuff work then and still works today. Great stuff.
Yeah man I’m obsessed with this series. People throw older moves out too fast because they think that they “won’t work on a good guy.” That’s why I always try to make my videos in a way that show that these technique work on elite wrestlers.
We called that "no leg" dump, the "hip dump", and my son used it to advance to the Greco finals at Fargo 2014. Left side is devastating.
I like that name, "short carry"
@@tadroid3858 did he win??
@@FunnyLaughVideos Nah. Up by 1, got tossed with 3 secs. left. Lost Freestyle final to Miles Martin. Came in 2nd at state in HS, too. Way out-performed his DNA potential, though.
Been dropping jaws as a heavyweight with this move for years 😂good stuff, this is a takedown series I think all wrestlers should have
I started wrestling late and I didn't wrestle for long, but the dump kind came to me naturally. I'm not even sure if I was ever taught the move, I just knew that I could get results. It's fun to see it used effectively at the highest level. RUclips would have been so cool to have back then.
same, the dump was something that just clicked for me, i didnt even practice it that much either. i would often do the dump and tap the knee instead of scooping it like a standard firemans
Always pushing out great content, your work is appreciated immensely!
Thanks man! I’m really having fun making it
My favorite channel. I look forward to your posts. Great work, keep it up.
Thank you that’s nice to hear. And will do
It was definitely part of my go-to series when I wrestled. I'm surprised nobody in the comments has mentioned a really great counter to the counter @2:44 . At my school we called it the Crusher, which is part of the series. When your opponent blocks to the inside of your knee, you reverse-hook that arm above the elbow with your off arm and grab the wrist of the first arm you have in the fireman's hold, which creates a lock. Then you roll him the other direction while pulling his elbow you have hooked. If you have it good and tight, your shoulder will be right in the center of his chest - hence the name Crusher. Now the arm that previously had the fireman's is free to grab behind his knee and elevate for the pin.
Any chance you could post a short video of the Crusher?
@matjul2008 I'd thought about that, but since no one responded, just kind of forgot. I need to find someone to do it with me, which is not as easy as it sounds. I was kind of surprised not even our host here mentioned this move, especially because he's so high on the fireman's series, or whatever one calls it, but thinking more about it, I only ever saw guys on my team use it, so maybe it's virtually unknown, though that's hard to believe.
For more general info: I had never heard it called a "barrel roll" until I made friends with someone I'd wrestled from another school. We were talking and he said, "You really got me with those barrel rolls." I had rolled him the traditional direction the first time (sitting out and pulling the fireman's arm) and got the takedown and back points. Then, the second time he blocked with his hand (as at @2:44 ) and I hooked the arm and sat the other way for another takedown and back points. The only reason I didn't stick him was his brute strength. I don't think there's any other defense against it once it's locked up. At least not if you're experienced and don't make the mistake of sitting toward your opponent.
At my school the series was called "Kelly's" (no idea why, or who that is, but googling it's proved pointless) and the hook to the crusher we called a "Hobbes' hook" (again, no idea who that might be or if I'm even spelling it right).
I'll try to put together a minute or so video when I get time, preferably if I can find someone. Thing is, I never thought I'd be watching college wrestling videos more than thirty years after I'd ever been on a mat. I love this channel, too.
@@dvdly Let me know if you make that video. I'm interested in learning that move.
@matjul2008 @Sidney Musoba Okay, guys. I did this one quick because I think it'll make sense without the need for a partner. Let me know if it makes sense. ruclips.net/video/GTcTsrJmDpU/видео.html
Please make a video!
This is a great series. When you fake drag or they stuff it, and you transition into a fireman's attempt and they stuff the fireman's, you're still deep enough that they they walk right into this dump. There's no great counter other than just preventing you from ever getting the two on one to begin with. And a lot of times people feel safe with the underhook when they're just not. As soon as the elbow gets trapped to the body, you lose all your "good" options. Even if you power out somehow just pulling back and up, they can just let go and switch to an outside ankle pick to single while your momentum is going the wrong way, and they're super deep before they even shoot.
Facts, as soon as you underhook the thigh or crotch and lift their feet off the ground even by half an inch they zero control left. And like you said the reason firemans is so good is becauze you can finish the takedown on somebody who sprawled on you
This series is amazing bc it works in every single style of grappling. You can even hit a form of a fireman’s/dump in judo or Greco!! Great moves to learn and know
Another great breakdown. Keep it up. Was needing a strictly wrestling technical series breakdowns and you have delivered sir. Kudos
Thank you
At 4:15 dude looks like he's got nothing and is about to get crushed and yet he's about to flip the other guy on his butt. That's why I love these interesting techniques you are collecting on this channel.
just found your channel! Solid stuff with some fun clickbait spice. I do think it's the best takedown in all styles. Turning 2 points into 5 is what it''s all about!
I like your comment 😂. The titles definitely have a little something extra to them to make them stand out on RUclips. I noticed that the basic wrestling titles didn’t get too much love. I always try to live up to the hype I create though.
@@earnyourgold hope it keeps working for you! It's probably why I found your stuff.
I find going for a traditional fireman and transitioning to the dump works really well, my major mistake early on was dropping rather than dumping. Landed on my head really hard a few times
You are one of my favourite wrestling Tubers,mate.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks man. Will do
Not trying to rain on your parade, coach. I have watched a number of your videos and I think you do a great job. That move was my bread and butter for 20 years and I don't think there is a more effective way to take a guy down to his back and make him fight for his life. But you should consider putting together some serious technique videos, as you say.
I learned this move late in wrestling It helped me so much wish I learned it earlier and perfected it.
Wish I had the video you guys have today. Good shit.
In my opinion this video is premium ! stellar TEAM coaching material
Just stumbled on this. Great vid and info. I can’t emphasize enough how tight your grip must be above the elbow. Almost to the point where it needs to be set up.
Always good stuff. Thanks
Thank you and no problem
The no-leg variations of this throw are becoming increasingly popular in Judo with Lombardo, Heydarov, Bouchard, Molleai, etc. hitting it quite often and winning gold medals with it.
You should have added sadulaev he used to hit it often too. But he used to swing his arm between the opponents leh
The wrestlers I chose I chose because they’re also going to be in videos 3/4 as well. Parris, Moore, Kharchla, and DiJulius all use the short drag as well. Since it’s a series, I wanted to the same wrestlers doing the moves throughout to have some continuity
Makes sense fundamentally. You get into a front headlock and more than often you're gonna be bent over with all their weight on you. If their weight is not on you then they're bullshitting and you're bullshitting. But it seems like the key is to hold onto the tricep for dear life and create enough torque to dump. Seems fool proof if mastered
Part of the reason the last guy is able to "chase" the move is if the opponent lets him keep that strong outside 2-on-one arm control, it's basically a free takedown. So having to fight that let's him dive into his inside head position to dump
Whats the best time to throw this?
I used to love hitting a fireman’s carry. It’s so underrated
Excellent video
Thank you
I've never seen this, its amazing
Yeah it's a nice move
The barrel roll lol. I knew someone who would beat people way better than him with this move alone.
Beautiful move!👌
Yup, the short carry is so tough to stop. That was my move.
Literally even when you sprawl if the keep moving with a tight arm it’s almost guaranteed
Would this counter also work against a cow catcher?
In the first clip I think it's more of a block or post on the hip, if you try to push too hard you can start rotating in the wrong direction and lose power/base
Thanks for these man!
On point. Keep it up.
Appreciate it. Will do
Moore pinned Haught with the exact same move twice in a row
Yeah man and Haught was GOOD! 4th place and then a Runner-Up the next year. Just couldn't stop that move
Is the near leg a fireman's?
Pretty sure desanto is the dump master
He absolutely is
Where is the rest of the series?
I'm no wrestler. But this is my favorite move. I can usually find my way in. But my failed attempts look very similar. Now I know I don't have to bail out.
Cheers
Is a near leg dump the same as a fireman’s carry?
What do you think is highest percent, no leg, far leg, or near leg?
Also, your content is great
I wish I could give you a more direct answer, but I can’t. My honest opinion is once you learn one, getting good at the other two doesn’t require much more effort because you already have the base down. Because of this, instead of spamming one of them and being super predictable and less flexible, knowing all 3 will allow you to pick which one best fits that situation, therefore making it higher percentage
I’m saying if you know all 3 of them, they’re all be high percentage because let’s say you force a near leg dump when the far leg was the one that was open. And vice versa. The dump was there, just not the one that you were looking for. That’s why you should be able to do at least 2 of them, if not all 3.
@@earnyourgold Thank you for the reply. What situation would the no leg dump not work? I’m new to wrestling
@@user-tv1tp2fr1u the “no leg” seems to work better when the opponent fully sprawls out. I would grab a leg if they’re more so in a stance in order to remove that point of stability/balance
@@earnyourgold got it. So you try to dump whichever leg is closer to you, and if they sprawl, you do the “no leg” dump. Thank you
you should add a link to the other videos in this series
That guy ain’t no d1 wrestler immediately figured that out when he used a barrel roll
Which guy?
Francis Olexy won state championship 1963 Virginia with this move and pin at 180lb class from JEBStuart highschool FallsChurch VA GaryOlafsonKaasa
Great move.
So basically a bad shot into a kind of dump as if you're doing a fireman?
Exactly
This is really similar to a modified kata guruma where you just lock the arm in
Worthy
Thank u so much bro
Wrestling in America is evolving because of MMA and Jiu JITSU.
'that's all they do'
You missed Austin desanto
Trust me, I would NEVER miss Austin Desanto. One of my all-time favorite wrestlers. The wrestlers I chose I chose because they’re also going to be in videos 3/4. Parris, Moore, Kharchla, and DiJulius all use the short drag as well. Since it’s a series, I wanted to the same wrestlers doing the moves throughout
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Coach, you need to emphasize the hip heist- that’s where the power for the dump comes from.
Yeah the dump is such a “feel” kind of move that this video wasn’t so much trying to teach exactly how to do it, but to show how many different ways you can set it up, finish it, and how it works on the best guys. I would have to do like an actually tutorial to try to really teach it
Send more videos please
Get a microphone... just use headphones that you can plug into your phone and answer the phone with...slot of phones come with them...they have a microphone built in to the volume buttons part... just plug the headphones into what ever you are using and hold the volume buttons part near your mouth and it won't sound like you are on speaker phone 15 ft away
I have a Yeti USB Mic. I’ll play around with it tomorrow and see. At first my voice was too loud and close so I put the microphone away from me. I’ll improve on it. Thank you for the feedback 👌🏾
@@earnyourgold hey my man... If you think for one second that people don't know what you are doing you are out of your mind. You are not even a pawn in the game being played. You are the joker's in a deck of cards.. the throw away pieces... The same exact thing is going to happen to your family down the line a few generations down the line when they do not need you anymore. You are doing what you are told and I get it. Everyone needs to eat and feed their family. You do not know how deep the lies actually go... I do.. I was a part of it until I took the time to learn I was a throw away piece as well. People really are dying and suffering because of the lies but not because of what u are told. You only know what you are told. You have no clue how long it took me to get to the actual truth. It's not out there and never will be. Using fake names will not prevent you from being touched. Everyone is touchable. We know the true purpose of social media since the beginning. You better hope there is no god cause every single senior that knows what is going on regrets it . You are being lied to just like just like everyone else and your future family will hate you for being so stupid... You can stop with the gang signs and I only watched your videos because it was not thrown in my face every 30 sec. Cancer is nothing more than a buildup of hydrogen ions in your body that your immune system can't get rid of because of the food people eat and it's being done intentionally. If you think everything will be blamed on people that don't exist and everyone participating will get off Scott free you are an idiot. Only people without a heart and soul can participate without a guilty conscience. When you get older you will understand. Right now you think you are getting over on everyone but your not. Your going to regret it when you get closer to meeting your maker and you will have to answer to him... Good luck with that... Your definitely going to need it
Nothing.... Wasn't expecting that feedback were you...
@@metou3072 watch the video I posted today and let me know if it sounds any better when you get the chance
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The Data says no.
Dump city
Someone call desanto
DeSanto special
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