@@jaden_lindner Souls, why on earth are you all seeking CHRIST among the dead? And the only road (narrow road) to heaven amongst the religions? And why you all so quick to go and worship in carnal/religious ways? Is CHRIST not risen? Is not a single soul have gotten saved? And those mans whom GOD took into heaven, and they did not taste death - you all clam they be in their graves? GOD is not SPIRIT who calls us all to worship HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH? Is not GOD calling us to come out from BABYLON, what we keep seeking CHRISTIANITY in the Babylon? Just in case i say, 1st testament is our past from which to learn, it is no longer the way to live. As we now live under 2nd testament and the future which we too will or shall see is written into the book of REVELATION. 1st testament = past, yesterday. 2nd testament = present, TODAY. The most important thing is to KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS on which our faith is build on. Without keeping the 10 commandments, there be no soul, who is Christian with living faith. We all be then lukewarms with dead faith and still into hellfire we shall go. We complain that nobody learns from the past, then why don´t we learn from the past? What's stopping us from opening the bible and start learning from the past? Pride stop us. Pride and the illusion, a lie which says” we're already educated”.
Christians used to tell me "You can have a personal relationship with God". Great! But I found out that if my personal relationship wasn't the same as theirs I was going to hell! How personal is that??💖
Jesus says "No one comes to the Father except by Me". He isn't going to change who He is to adapt to your idea of who our Creator is, but if you are born again you will know the same Jesus that other believers know because there is only one true Jesus and He is in the bible, so read that if you want to know Him.
@@senderoestrecho9142 I'm not so much interested in human derived "ideas" about my Creator; but rather in getting to know him experientially. Have you noticed how the "true" believers constantly fight with each other over ideas?
I felt the most "free will" when I left religion. Like you said, the relationship with God doesn't feel genuine when its motivated by fear. Doesn't seem fair.
@@jacktrevis5400 I'm just as curious. I hate that we don't know for sure what actually happens to these type of people when they die. If said "hell" does actually exists, what are the rules really? People love to say that according to the bible, no sin is greater than the other. So does that mean those who tell lies and such are on the same level of people who murder, rape, thief? I will never get that. I wish I had the answers.
I do not affliate my self to various denominations, non denomination and I do not affliate myself to being Christian, atheist and abnostic beliefs. I consider myself as being spiritual. I believe there is a God and a Trinity. God is loving. He's not a Hitler type of God like most of theses cult like churches out there. I am not currently in church. I left due to extreme hypocrisy and other reasons. I do not need a church in order to be spiritual, I can contact another spiritual friend whose like minded and pray and fellowship. It says in the Bible: Whenever two or three are gathered in his name, he is there.
I feel so much better after I decided that I didn’t want anything to do with religion. I went along with it for many years because that’s what was expected, but now I can be honest with myself and not feel like a phony.
Religion is not what is important here hun Having a relationship and bond with Jesus is what is! Talk to him forget going to church or what have you just pray hood your faith and never turn your back on God!
@@unknownuser4879 For year's I dressed properly, I wanted to look so perfect. I would read bible & act so perfect. Now I'm starting to leave religion. It's so controlling and the bible contradicts itself way to much.
I left it too somewhat recently, and it's the best feeling ever. I have never been so happy in my entire life. I am finally able to say that I love myself, which I have never been able to do at a Christian
We all have sinful natures but just remember that Christ loves us and died to save us from bad judgement. If you accept and follow him it will apply to you.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
You sound like a true follower of Jesus far more than those that call themselves "Christian". I went through the same type of thing. I'm now in my 60s and I feel better also. I stopped calling myself a "Christian" and call myself a follwer of Jesus and Buddha. I'm not a label - I grow as mys spirit grows - wherever that grows. One thing struck me that you said, because I had the same exact thought. I did not want to be good because of fear. I wanted to be good for goodness sake. Seemed to me that being good because you will be punished was the wrong way to be good - not authentic - just a pretend. Thanks for sharing your story. I really appreciate your honesty.
@Glady Man yes I do believe that a lot of churches speak lies, but not all churches preach a lie. It merely depends on the church, but thats when discernment is crucial to know the truth. God never sets up his children to fail. He is a loving God.
I have an issue with the bible. There are books written by people an example, mathew and people mentioned such as Moses, Isaac etc. I understand they were born from their fore fathers an mothers.My question is, how am I related to them.
@JustaUser Wrong! If you willing to have an open mind conversation we can do it if you are curious to understand why I believe in God is that sound fair?
I want to leave so bad but im extremely scared of my parents im only 16 and christianity makes me really unhappy but im extremely scared of my parents and what they will do if i tell them. They are like obsessed with god all of of this stuff and they say and do so many hurtul and do harmful things to me and other people but use religon as an excuse and im tired of feeling like im a bad person for not believing or doing this or that i just want to leave
@@T0xiccO definitely be careful coming out if you still live with your parents and are depending on them for a place to stay and stuff. I made a whole video about coming out as an atheist, specifically about common mistakes to avoid, that I think you'll find useful. ruclips.net/video/ZPPDb9IIkHU/видео.html
@@Outoftheboxhomeorganizing That's the first thing that one does, is get and be brutally honest with themselves. This is what my whole channel is based upon, is getting rid of all of these old stinking concepts, and religions, and ideals, and standards, etc... because it is nothing but extra baggage anyway. I am getting back to freedom, and this is what The SBN Lifestyle represents, and why I am showing it to people...This is what we have been running from our whole lives, is the Joy of just being, who we we're always intended to be, our free and natural selves...Yes, we will have bad days, and have stupid thoughts come to our mind, but we do not need anymore of that stuff in our already short lives, now do we?
It seemed your double life was considering God but then considering the world. Its impossible to have both options on the table. By being apart of this world, you were not entirely christian or focused on it. We cannot get anything from God and please him, by being apart of this world. Its all or nothing.
@@Outoftheboxhomeorganizing yeah, I feel ya...like your inner world and the outer worlds conflict. The real natural world demands from you and your conscience is stronger and demands that the world treat you with respect and dignity. It is strange. There is no harmony or balance of inner self and outer self.
@@natanunorthodox "the Joy of just being, who we we're always intended to be, our free and natural selves." So how did you become to be..naturally? What gave us all this? How did we get the universe that eventually led to "our free and natural selves."? Show that you know the difference between sound thoughts and not. Show that you looked at this logically by going with evidence. it will be easy for you with all the claims you made.
Hi Jaden, thank you for sharing your story. I was born as a cradle Catholic and went to Sunday school up to the 5th grade. Then I had Protestant beliefs up to age 25, went New Age for about 3 to 4 years and was directed back to the Catholic Church. What directed me back to God, was an adoration chapel and experiencing the presence of God through the Holy Eucharist located in the monstrance. Today I am a Catholic and want to tell everyone that there is a God and he is very real. There are a lot of people who have questions about God and want to direct everyone to the Catechism of the Catholic Church because there are answers that have been around for centuries. I hope you have an experience with the Lord. God bless.
Thank you. I stopped being christian a few days ago. Sometimes I feel really scared, but when that passes the sense of freedom is unbelievable. Much love to you, I know it's hard at the beginning.
Yeah man, it gets scary. Religious belief kinda makes handling life easier. Sometimes I find myself wishing I could somehow forgot what I've learned and dumb back to believing, so I could have an effective scapegoat.
Bruh u should check out Islam we don’t blind in blind faith it’s pure logical faith out of all religion ppl r leave Christianity n Islam is da fastest growing religion they even said in bbc too and in my humble thought. And we do believe in Jesus Christ peace be upon him we can’t be Muslim if we don’t believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus never preach Christianity nor he called himself Christian n church was around b4 Jesus was even born 330yrs bb4 he born n We hav a hole chapter named after Mary in da holy Quran u should check it out n we believe the bible is corrupted dats why God send another prophet to tell the truth to ppl n tell who Jesus Christ peace be upon him is. Peace and blessings of God be upon you 😊
@@A1.4U Can you please tell me what method you used to prove to yourself that the your god is real. No quoting from the Quran as anyone from any religion can simply say "it is true because my old book says it is true" do you have any outside evidence to prove that you are right and the other religions are wrong? Or do you just believe because you were told to believe when you were a child? Do you know that the book 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins that explains why religion is nonsense has been downloaded over 10 million times in it's free Arabic translation. There are tens if not hundreds of millions of Ex Muslims around the world but many are afraid to speak out because your 'religion of peace' is so brutal and violent to anyone who disagrees with them.
sula S bruh u just throwing nonsense ignorance comments out of no where hav u ever read da Quran. In English they say little known is dangerous dats wa u doin now😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️ Quran is a book full of miracles free from contradiction wa ever sciences r finding right now it’s already mentioned in da holy Quran 1500yrs ago how can a man lives in da middle of desert Illiterate man that lived in 7th century and telescope wasn’t even invented at da time Quran talks bout Big Bang theory universe expanding every living thing made out of water lists goes on. 😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️ bruh we don’t follow a blind faith like Christianity or Hinduism Buddhism Sikhism all da other religion. And remember Islam is da fastest growing religion in the world right come back to the God of Jesus Abraham Solomon David mosses Muhammad peace be upon them all ☝🏾
@@A1.4U Firstly what you say about the Quran is just simply not true you are just being a parrot and repeating the nonsense of your lying teachers. If you are honest and read the book yourself you will find out that none of those things you claim are true. Watch this and stop being ignorant. ruclips.net/video/6RTehKGfdCU/видео.html You did not answer the question. First you have to prove the book is true before you can quote from it. It is very simple, why cant you understand that? Do you have any evidence from outside the book to prove that the book is true? It is not the fastest growing religion, again you are just repeating what your dishonest teachers are telling you. Stop being a sheep and learn this stuff for yourself. You have been lied to ALL your life and now you are passing on those lies to others. "When an honest man is shown to be wrong he can either stop being wrong or stop being honest"
I was an atheist until now. No one converted me, no one forced their beliefs on me.. i just read the gospel and I just could not resist the pull I felt towards Jesus. No one can deny, that there is something so intriguing, so compelling about Jesus and that is what I think makes Christianity so exclusive.
The whole bible is not only truth, it is THE most incredible story! It can't be beaten. I have challenged tens of thousands to get around it and none of them can. The deeper you look, the purer it gets. I've read umpteen amounts of what the naysayers have had to say about the bible and they are easily crushed. God does not want blind faith, He has the evidence, that's why He asks us to prove things, to study. A lie falls apart but truth stands firm. If ever you get into doubt feel free to contact me. Satan is always trying to sow his thorns. So grateful you saw the light. God bless.
@Dharma Defender well show you got past the first verse before acting as if you know so much about the rest of the bible. How did we get creation without God? Jesus said God created. Show that you know something.
The Bible itself does the very things Darren does in this video below, our own brain does these things as well ruclips.net/video/MLzT4CeBT6I/видео.html
I definitely agree about the “never being good enough” thing. My parents only gave me three compliments in my life-all regarding just being a “good Christian.” Sad.
our goodness is not exemplified by how well you fit the mold. That is moral and emotional and relational slavery. Religion was nothing Jesus Christ taught. He taught freedom. So many don't realize this. It is terrifying.
@@shelbyguizar9036 Yesss. That's why Jesus said that narrow is the way that leads to life and only few will find it and broad is the way to destruction. People leave christianity because of people not because of Jesus.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@rosemariemanton4284 you are misinformed. The main reason the people leave Christianity is when they study their bible thoroughly. Most Christians do not know their book or its history, or its almost inumerous contradictions, and thats why they still believe.
Christian people keep saying that the lord is coming, they’ve been saying that for years and still nothing happens still didn’t show. That’s why I’m realizing the truth.
I left the church for 16 years, and I felt free. My daughter wanted to go to church when she was younger, so I went back. I had so much anxiety going, and having all these rules you should follow. I know that the church doesn't teach everything properly according to scripture. Since COVID happened, we haven't been to church, and I feel so much better again. I am still spiritual.
I stopped being a Christian a while ago. I was a Christian for 3 years and became really judgemental and told people they were wrong because the Bible said certain stuff. It was bad. When I first became a Christian I felt free because I felt like Jesus had saved me and that I'd become spiritually reborn all that sort of thing but then I the whole idea of hell started to put me off, and the weird stories in the Bible about God killing people and then I got caught up in people saying certain things were wrong and the narrow mindedness and the whole idea of hell and LGBTQ people being a sin and every other belief is wrong Christianity is the truth everything else is demonic I just thought it was so wrong and I had to break away from it. There was a doctrine in my church that you could lose your salvation and that used to terrify me. I still believe in God but apart from the doctrine in the Bible now. I am into tarot, crystals and reiki now.
It seems the devil exposed your heart to options. Options are not good when it comes to faith because they all say different things and contradict each other. We have to stop thinking about what we want and think about what God wants. Heaven is not given, its earned through passion for Christ and, The Spirit and, The Father. Its a pearl that requires sacrifice and constant denial.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 amen brother❤️ Jesus is the truth, the way and the life.. he is the light of the world.. only in him we have eternal life.. I hope that people will turn back to God before the Great Judgement Day.
One of the fundamental things Jesus taught was that his followers should not go around judging people. Judgementalism and Christianity are incompatible. Sounds like you went to the wrong church. When you become a Christian you are saved, free of condemnation and spiritually reborn. Nothing can take that away from you unless you choose to discard it. Stick with it and don't settle for substitutes. Tarot is deceitful and crystals are powerless. Don't trust them.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
Challenge any cleric, any '' true believer '' with these two words, '' prove it '', and all you'll ever get is apologetics, assumptions, faith, belief and emotional appeal ( mainly fear )... which is all I ever needed to drop my religion.
@@yeshuaisisaiah9650 Love is proven by its emotion, its feeling, its expression... wind, well, ya can just watch, observe a hurricane ? Nice try, religious one.
If Jesus was not real, Then it would mean no more to you than the funny papers..! But you question, you complain, you put questions off on people you refuse to listen too..! You were lost before you before you got started. Either give up questioning or learn to live with your Fears..! Because that's all you have now...
@@faithhope7777 I question because of the interest I have in psychology ( something I'm sure you couldn't care less about ). It's not '' complaining '' or '' fears '' it's that I love to get into people's heads to find out why they believe what they do -- ya know, education... but you are correct on one count, jesus as '' man\ god savior '' means no more to me than the funny papers.
@@jerrylanglois7892 ( something I'm sure you couldn't care less about ) But I do, I took psychology 101 in college, But I only found peoples heads to be satan play ground..! So I guess that is where you live... (means no more to me than the funny papers.) So that means your just wasting your time, unless you thank your life is worth no more than a funny paper..! I hope you all the best...
I can understand others but Jehovah's witnesses are worse. I watched my daughter suffering from being abused by her husband, but according to their belief, she is not supposed to leave her abusive husband and only the elders must intervene! Only later I read the book "Snubbed" I realized that Religion is the greatest prison on earth.
@@jaden_lindner thank yo so much Jaden, she is fine now and attending therapy. They got divorced and she was banished from the fellowship of the religion and she is happy.
Nomvula Nxumalo my grandma has been married to an old man. He’s not right in the mind. He’s even threatened my brother before bc my brother insisted he’ll do him a favor that my grandmas husband was trying to do like wtf?? He told my brother “I have somebody for you” and my family knows what else is on with my grandmas marriage because they all fucking gossip. I don’t understand
Wow this was so relatable. I’m a pastor’s kid and I share a lot of your same thoughts and questions. It’s interesting how our perspective changes as we grow up and expand our world past our church and upbringing....what are your beliefs, if any, now? Do they align with any other religion?
What a shame, it goes to show that just because you are a pastors kid doesnt mean a thing. Faith is individual, your dad cannot use faith for you, he can only bring influence.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
It's painful to see so many Christians being influenced by the hypocrisy of other Christians not living the life. Please, many are leading double lives, they're not necessarily saved if they think they are..People are confused about this issue bc many believe once saved always saved..Please, Jesus Christ is real, heaven and hell really do exist in the spirit world. Sin is real, it is defiling. Even if we look at the world and people, it erodes and causes so much on a mass scale and individual. Demons are real and they're prominent in society. Those in fame work with dark powers and know it is real, it is hidden from the world. Please, Jesus Christ is very real and everyone will know this. Don't fall for the traps, demons insert thoughts in your mind to take you away from the faith. They literally come up with a customized plan for each human so people don't really ever know God. Please cry out and seek while there's still time, everyone will know this is true for certain just moments after they pass, but it is too late if people die in their sin. Sin cannot be allowed in heaven, it would corrupt it and no longer be heaven.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
Hi Jaden! Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. You are very brave and I’m glad you are so open minded. It is really tough to leave behind a faith that was so influential in your life. I left Christianity over a year ago and feel so free to think and believe what feels right. Good luck on your journey! Because of my de-conversion and the strain it placed on my life, I began the journey to become a licensed professional counselor. Which led me to the desire to start a RUclips channel specifically for people to tell their stories and to find a place of healing and community. So much good can arise from putting aside religious beliefs.
You stopped believing in what God wants and started to look out for number one. I preach that you can have both. The have faith is to believe in yourself and God and one cannot exist without the other.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
I've come to realize I am not religious but definitely spiritual, to me most beleifs in god or something higher are ultimately the same. I find similarities all the time across the board. Just like you i was raised none denominational evangelical. I've always always struggled with the idea of Hell. In my family the first question asked if someone died was "were they saved?!" If not my dad would say they were burning in hell. It really scared me and disgusted me that he would say that. I've lived on and off apart of the church as an adult, always searching for the perfect fit, never finding it but that fear kept me in my beleif of the bible. Also fear of disappointing my parents, especially my mom. Like you, i cannot follow a belief system based in fear. I've always been fascinated and drawn to the occult as well. I think my study of astrology and finding some happiness and fulfillment has helped me overcome some of my fear I recently told my mom that i don't believe in hell and I'm definitely more of a universalist then evangelical Christian. She is barely speaking to me, considers me so lost. This has been very hard for me because it has changed the way she sees me and her love for me is all dependant on this fear she has for my soul Which is so overwhelming her she cannot love me the same. I of course love my mom. It's getting to me, i try hard to stay positive but there's this deep sadness there. Did you find it hard to be open with your family?
Hi Montana, thanks for sharing. I still am a ‘Christian’ - a Messianic believer to be exact. I reviled the doctrine of hell, and a big part for me of accepting Christ/Messiah, was when I came to believe that the mainline understanding of hell is inaccurate; in that it is not a eternal place of punishment. That mis-understanding may have come in via pagan religions. I believe the Seventh-day Adventists have a good grasp of the true understanding of ‘hell’. Blessings
You shouldnt find it hard, my family gladly criticises my faith, even my Nan who goes to church almost everyday, and prays for the family and shes a deacon. I have been through things and seen things i never thought in a million years i would see. Your deep sadness is because you want to be accepted as you are. Give it time you will be accepted and keep praying to Jesus at least.
when I read all the slavery things and no mention of it being bad then I started to study the bible in a different way I just quit being a Christian a few days ago also
Every Medieval cultures had slaves.From America to the Australia had it. In the bible,basically the slaves are used for household work, of course they are given food and basic rights. God never told ill treat slaves. Cut to the present, we r bound by the govt or the monarch by the rules. We dont have free will whatever we want, is nt kind of slavery. God's concept and Bible's focus is on Jesus and to save the world from sin . John 3:16- For God so loved the world, he gave his only Son so that whoever believes in him would have eternal life.
jibo.k. Varghese Where I come from on this situation is definitely an opposing side but I’d like to say it. From what I was taught when I was going to church, doing bible study etc... was that god was all good, all knowing and all powerful. While yes slavery was normal back then, we now know it’s wrong. The thing that really gets me is why, If god is once again all good, powerful and knowing, did he let slavery continue on? If god knows it’s wrong why wouldn’t he put a stop to it? I know you claim that the slaves were treated as people but they sure weren’t free. In my eyes, there is absolutely no justification for slavery, people are taken from all they’ve ever known, family, friends, they’re homes. Whether they were treated with decency is irrelevant because they weren’t free to leave, they didn’t choose that life. Me personally, if I was robbed of everything I ever knew and loved, even if I was given food and a place to sleep and treated decently enough, I would one: never be able to forgive the people that took me and two: would never be able to enjoy a life like that. Just because they weren’t treated like dirt doesn’t mean it was right, they weren’t free. I don’t want to fight, I genuinely want to hear you out on this as I do not understand completely where you are coming from.
@@TheGhostInYourAttic yes if you read exodus 21 slavery IS always wrong not just back then and I didn't claim that the slaves were treated as equal and I am glad that you have better morals than your god by the way my belief is there are no gods the bible is fiction that is why it is not in the History section of the Library
If you are living as a good and honest person, you will find so much peace and even happiness in your life. And the feelings of freedom are amazing! Enjoy your life, Jaden. Think for yourself. Your new beliefs will allow you to grow as a person without fear in your life. Best wishes for you and your family.
People should not be coming to God out of fear but out of love and respect. No wonder why people are leaving. I blame the messengers. Spirituality is a beautiful thing with so much potential. Only spiritual people IN JESUS are perfect, or at least can be.
Thanks for sharing Personally, I remember on single moment that tipped me away from “religion” I was explaining to a friend that I did not believe that little Indian children who died without Jesus would have to go to hell Then I carelessly asked if that meant that I also was destined for hell? I was shocked when my “friend” confirmed that indeed I WAS going to hell It is one thing for a strangers to tell you to go to hell It is another to have a friend seriously tell you that you ARE going to hell At that moment I started to think that “if this is what religion is about, I am not interested”
Hey, I understand where you are coming from. Most Christian churches love to force fear down our throats, but most of them don’t know that fear is from the devil not from God, when the Bible talks about having a fear for God it clearly means to love him (since fear isn’t from God). 1 John 4:18
Darvin Victor.....and how do you know what 'most' churches do, and teach. You cant even probably list all the churches in your state, never mind making silly claims ignorantly.
The love is the most important thing but we should not neglect fear and hope, balance it And also bible is corrupted and has many contradictions Pls watch the channel One Message Foundation , it has many inter faith talks and discussions Pls do Very very interesting
@@MRFITTA You put on a perfect display of her point. All the evidence needed. Most people in the church are nothing like Christ. You are an example of that.
I’ve never had so many unfiltered open dialogue with people since I recently started my deconstruction journey. Thank you for your story. I can relate.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
Thank so much for sharing! So much recognition.... I recently left church after being a born again Christian for 15 years. It's a long story, but more or less the same story as yours. I definitely feel free now... 💜❤ Greetings from the Netherlands
But are you free. Perhaps to do whatever you want but is that a good thing, to do what you want. Stealing is not good, but lusting after someone is also not good, its not good because you develop cravings for something you cannot have either because the person is taken or because they might not be interested in you.
My experience is very similar to yours. I now believe questions are always good. If anyone tries to suggest to me that I shouldn’t ask questions or explore other ideas - about anything (that doesn’t advocate harming anyone) - I now believe that is a bad sign. I decided that if I ever get confused, love and kindness are always the most important things - and are sufficient guides, in themselves. I don’t think you can go wrong if love is the priority, and that necessarily includes treating others the way you would like to be treated. An example of one change in my thinking: in regard to homosexuality, I was always taught to hate the sin but love the sinner, and that that attitude was a loving one (and I think there also was an undercurrent of belief that that attitude was generous of us). It is so common-sense clear to me now that that attitude was so insulting and condescending - just gross - so unkind. And completely none of my business to be making judgements on a personal choice that is harmful to no one. Today, it’s mortifying to me that I believed and helped propagate that idea into the world, even in a small degree.
LaMesa Cole Well, just like I would treat heterosexual people. That would include wishing them well in marriages or partnerships or having children. Being ok with public affection with one another to the same degree as I am with heterosexuals’ actions. Including their significant others in get-togethers. Abstain from thinking or suggesting they adhere to any particular dogma. But in addition, I now use my voice and vote to try to influence equal protections under the law and in society, since I think there is still progress that needs to be made.
But the bible teaches that we should love others as ourselves. Its one of the foundations of Christianity. Its okay to have questions, but why do not look for those answers and get a general consensus on it. Get many opinions on a particular subject before you decide on what to do.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 dude you sound brainwashed, do you reply to every comment on here? You realize if the church made all this up, then you would. Be. A. Brainwashed, manipulated fool. Church wants power, can’t have power without creating stories to instill fear in the people you want to control.
As a Christian all I can say is you’re awesome, brave and you have a kind and gentle heart (your voice tell me that). And just know that what you did in this video takes guts. The God that you learned, studied, and worshiped is real and even though you left the church, he won’t leave you. He never let’s go.
But if there is a God who never let's go, shouldn't people _notice_ such a thing? It's one thing to say emotional stuff like 'God never let's you go!' and actually demonstrating that this is the case.
recommended videos are jesusneverexisted.com and evilbible.com to wake up people from the lies of the myth the so called jesus. a question for a christian would you sell your daughter as a sex slave, it is a teaching of your false god jehova. ( exodus 21: 7) says. and why women in church does not obey their stupid god jehova who treates women like garbage, sayin that they should not learn and should be shut up, this is an attack toward women, many women in churches never jave read this bullshit and nonsense of the gospel of the myth called jesus. IT SAYS 1 CORINTHIANS 14: 34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. bible is a bullshit against women and humanity. women wake up and never let a jewish god to humiliate you.!
Pretzel Boggins hi pretzel,that jewish book called bibles is wrong from beginning to the end. Imagine that jewish god ordering human sacrifices and for this false god of the bible is amazing it smell good Read ephesians 5:2 this jewish god is a demon.he loves human sacrifices this is immoral. Besides it is funny people worshipping a jew called jesus! And a jewish god of the middle east when they are non jews. I said yesteday to a friend you criticise lgbt and gays... but you want to spend with a man forever called jesus.... this sounds gay to me!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁😆😆😆😆
Carlos Orozco i was a believer for 10 years but when i did my research, i quickly came to realization that there wasn’t much proof for his resurrection. And all the crap from the bible as you mentioned: slavery, immoral stuff God commanded/did started to wake me up to the possibility that Bible wasn’t inspired by god rather, was invented by superstitious primitive men. Then I came to find out that, bible we read now were compiled by Catholic church ( which protestants think they’re heretics; yet, believes in bible that these heretics compiled). Catholic church literally cherry picked which gospels were going to be canonized and which ones were going to be discarded. To make things worse, nobody really knows who authored the new testaments.
@@hime9513 WHAT GOD??? THERE ARE MILLIONS AROUDN THE WORLD AND ALL RELIGIONS SAYS ... GOD SAYS !!! RESURRECTION THE BIGGEST MYTHOLOGY! jesusneverexisted.com and evilbible.com SHOWS THE LIES OF JESUS AND THE BIBLE THE JEWISH BOOK
Religion has values that hold people down. Jesus Christ removes burdens because He instructs the best way to live life and please God. To live for Christ is to deny our will for Him, and in turn he will help us in our lives.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 I'm really sorry if this is offensive but I used to be Christian but living your entire life reading a book written thousands of years ago and trying to live up to the standards of God and following his rules in order to reach a eternal paradise never experiencing anything in life is a very unhealthy and very sad way to live this is only my opinion im sorry if this is upsetting
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 There is no evidence for your God. Biggest Problem of Christianity - It’s founded on a baselessly weak compilation of bronze age fables that is not supported by anything anywhere. 0 evidence for Exodus (0 evidence for a historical Moses), 0 evidence for Noah’s flood, Multiple candidates for Sodom and Gomorrah (Archeologists have not been able to come to a consensus regarding its actual location) (None of the candidate locations match up perfectly with the biblical timeline and other crucial details concerning Sodom and Gomorrah) Anonymous authors of the gospels. None of the original manuscripts of any of the four gospels exist. The four gospels were written by those who were not eyewitnesses decades after the alleged events. We don't have the original manuscripts of any of the four gospels. The earliest complete new testament manuscript is 'Codex Sinaiticus' from mid 4th century. Are you kidding me? So, fucking late. The earliest of the manuscripts we have are fragments without the titles. We don't even know who wrote most of the New Testament. Much of the New Testament seem to be blatant forgeries. No evidence of earth coming into existence as a result of an incantation spell (Earth formed naturally as a gradual gravitational concretion 4.6 billion years ago). No evidence for glorious creation. Adam and Eve didn’t exist. Evolution is a fact. There is overwhelming evidence for evolution from every relevant field of study like paleontology, anthropology, embryology, homology, molecular biology etc. That is why evolution is hailed as the backbone of modern biology and creation is literally a refuted, discarded and forgotten fairy tale that has been collecting dust for 161 years. Evolution disproves creation. We share a common ancestor with the great apes that lived 7 million years ago and chimpanzee being our closest living relative. (Genetically 97-98 percentage similar to us) (Evolution undermines the creative genius of God even if he had been superintendenting evolution as some theistic evolutionists argue. The only purpose of evolution is adapting and surviving by adjusting and compromising). Life as we know it most likely didn't require a God to come into existence. As a result of our ever improving understanding of abiogenesis, we are closer than ever before at finding out how the first self-replicating RNA molecules formed from non living matter. Our universe didn't come into existence out of nothing. Our space-time started expanding 13.8 billion years ago from a hot and dense singularity. Matter and energy existed before that. If something has to be eternal it could be the energy. That’s all the big bang theory accounts for. It doesn’t suggest the universe came from nothing. There is no evidence of anything before the singularity. The big bang was also not an explosion (as typically distorted by apologetic charlatans) but an expansion. Also, the earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago. What took God so long, why didn’t he create earth first? What was he doing for 9.3 billion years in between the universe’s expansion and earth’s formation? Too many problems for the theistic worldview. Wake up. Get over your delusions. Ignorance and incredulity is no longer an excuse. Can’t believe there are still people who believe in these bronze age fables by ignorant, superstitious and primitive savages and regard it as absolute truth despite all evidences to the contrary. There is simply no evidence for any of the fables in the Bible. Stop wasting your life believing in those impossible absurdities. Nothing Fails Like Bible History ruclips.net/p/PLCTNr4WPOQ97bwf-ylpCDR9kxrsEpp0kl Historical Errors in the Bible and Qur'an ruclips.net/p/PLVUn5uFDy8s2lTJow2tYKfeeYXWHez70q Noah's flood debunked ruclips.net/p/PLXJ4dsU0oGMJP95iZJqEjmc5oxY5r6BzP The P R A T T List ruclips.net/p/PLXJ4dsU0oGMKnaxEzgOPup9WKlNPZwiJN Jesus's wasn't Jesus ruclips.net/video/6lqC8fvIspY/видео.html Design disasters of the Human Body ruclips.net/p/PLaK_6SY7ixVS9WixSjOmOzVnew8IS_u2_ How to stop believing in God / being a Christian ruclips.net/p/PLMmVYv3MXphuTqtx0QoS__eQ5rLZVo0j1 The Evidence for Evolution ruclips.net/p/PLLbOEx_k9dkdf5tqLmmC1o98WvyBYlGNk
Everyone would say they are, but as the bible says we are inherently sinful. The heart is deceitful beyond measure and a "good person" follows it. Its why good people suffer and also why marriages do not last long, its also why people are self indulgent. Etc.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
I hope I get there. I'm trying but scared. I was raised in a strict Pentacostal church, then switched to Baptist as a young adult. I had too many questions and would immediately get shut down or ridiculed or lectured into forcing myself to believe again. I went to church until a few years ago. Just like you, constantly fear driven. What if... But I couldn't silence my unanswered questions and I don't want to live in fear. The fear embedded in me almost feels like psychological abuse. A conditioning. Even mind control at points. It was "Do this OR else..." There was no choice. I felt so judged for seeking answers and not just accepting what was written in the Bible or being lectured to me. I'm terrified of Hell, as I was raised to be. I am terrified of "going against" church or even simply disconnecting. I can't tell my family I'm "losing my religion" (for lack of a better phrase) and I'm 35 years old, but my parents/family would still freak. It IS very much a "we vs they" mob mentality, and it makes me sad. I've seen too many Christians first-hand be so hypocritical on what they say they believe versus what they do in their daily lives and how they treat and judge people. The fear and the pressure made me constantly feel nauseated. I felt obligated. I felt I wasn't allowed to question the Bible and what was wrong in it, and I felt mentally sick to question- like even having thoughts of questioning it would send me straight to hell. I questioned how the church picks and chooses what to use in the Bible and what to ignore. (Like the 1st half completely, the Old Testament.) And even things in the New. Too much wrong and mistreatment and contradictions for me to simply accept. I'm stuck between disbelief in Christianity, having a possible belief in a higher power, the in between, and the absence...like I'm in a dryer flipping around. But I have questions and I cannot NOT seek answers. I've been doing research on my feelings seriously for over 2 years but have questioned my faith since I was a pre-teen. I just want to say THANK YOU for your story and to everyone who sees my comment and UNDERSTANDS. People like you guys have not judged me. You have shown me more empathy and compassion than most christians. It's comforting to know I am not alone, and many others have been where I am. So, my story: I am STILL searching and slowly rediscovering myself and reducing what I know as fact against what I know from conditioning. I still have my weak moments... like when things go very wrong, or my friend (who just passed) was in a coma in ICU, my gut reaction was to beg and pray...and even as I did so, I found myself questioning the importance. Was it to make me feel better? Was it training? And most importantly, whether I prayed or not, would the outcome be any different? And I realized, even as I felt GUILTY realizing it (bc conditioning/brainwashing is a son of a bitch) that it wouldn't. Forcing myself to acknowledge I didn't have control of these outcomes, whether I prayed or not, was a bit liberating. Then I thought back to how many other times I prayed for something, a different outcome, throughout my life and didn't get it, and more things began to click. My mind goes on spirals. Just yesterday, at my friend's wake, I kept hearing over and over by everyone around me, "God knows things we cannot" and "God had a plan" and "He's in God's hands now" and so forth, and I wanted to scream. It's become shockingly aware to me that people are set in default mode that when something shitty happens that we don't understand or cannot accept, the answer is seemingly "Just trust in God. It's all up to God."...and it made me feel sick. I have witnessed all my life people using God as a CATCH ALL for things we as humans can't or won't accept; because after all, God is a more pleasant excuse than We Don't Know or Can't Explain Otherwise. I'm ANGRY. The more I research and discover, work to rewire my brain, the more angry I get. Yes, I'm still "in the closet" with my family and friends because 99.9% of them were raised as I was (strict religion) or led by blind faith and they don't WANT to seek answers beyond this because it's more comforting to them. They don't want to reason. So I'm left in the dark, solely on my own, digging myself out of this mud, and STILL feeling guilty about the what-ifs. What if what I'm doing is wrong? What if I am situating myself into a one-way seat that sends me straight to hell for even considering and questioning? But the problem is, I can't stop. It eats at me when I do. It keeps me awake. It rotates in my mind everytime someone brings up God or religion and my first instinct now is to cringe instead of find comfort. I can't help myself. The more things don't make sense, the more I realize what was done to me all of my life, the more I need to research. I can't sit idly by and accept things as I'm being told or preached at anymore. I want to know for myself. Does that make me immoral? Does that make me plagued? Does that make me selfish? I don't know. But the fact that I can't stop the way I'm feeling and questions I seek out tells me I may be onto something, and i cannot shake that. And I've tried. I've tried going back to living under a rock, and truthfully, i hate it. I hate that I can't stop questioning or cringing...but I also trust myself in acknowledging that must mean something. I know I'm babbling, but yes, it is where I'm at - digging through the muck. If ANYONE has any recommendations for me, be in on RUclips or a book or movie, whatever, please - I'm all ears. Thank you for caring about me and this update. It means more to me than I can express. I'm scared I'm wrong, but I'm also scared I'm right. I just want to feel free to choose. Actually free. Perhaps if we were allowed to be love-driven versus fear-driven, I'd consider things differently. But we aren't and never will be. 💔
Angela, that was a very moving account of the mind control that you have been subjected to, you are absolutely right to question everything. Here is a little thought experiment for you. Imagine that when you were one week old your parents had put you up for adoption and you had been adopted by a Buddhist couple and had been brought up as a Buddhist. You would now be convinced that when you die you will be reincarnated and that you need good Karma to get a good 'next' life. You would have absolutely NO concept or fear (terror) of the Christian hell and your mind would be free of all the poisonous nonsense that now plagues you. You would of course believe all the Buddhist nonsense instead. You are simple a product of the broken system of your society. I hope that you continue to fight the injustice that your terrible religion has dumped on you. Feel free to ask me any questions you want. This is an excellent de-conversion video I would recommend you watch at least nine of them. ruclips.net/video/JOmSYHzeoNA/видео.html
Hello, Angela! I just wanted to say how much I admire your courage and strength in not only your struggle, your honesty with your self, but also in your choice to share this struggle. I also want to assure you that you're not alone. Check out a RUclips channel called The Thinking Atheist with Seth Andrews, the man was a former Christian broadcaster who was where you are and has a great many listeners that he tries to help through the process. I recommend him because he does not tell his listeners what to believe but coaches them to be true to themselves. I also recommend him because...well, I need to explain, I've been an atheist (with maybe a bit of a spiritual bent) all my life but have always shied away from the atheist community. Every time I looked into them, all I found was anger. And I understand that anger, I was that point myself for a number of years. Some of that anger comes from the way atheists are treated, (waves hand), and for some it's the residue of having been the follower of a specific religion - the feelings of betrayal, of having been lied to, coerced, even abused through fear. Seth Andrews caught my attention for being more positive. He's worked through that anger, but he knows it well. I think he might have something to offer you. Many of his listeners similarly have family and community they feel they cannot come out to. I'm not sure that I do...I have my own ideas, of course, but I'm not you - and that's kinda the point. Be true to your own values. Trust your instincts and your intellect. You're not rejecting a faith just to have someone else mold who you become. Andrews says something along the lines of having explored what he doesn't believe until he realized that he is not defined by what he DOESN'T believe - he has to understand and embrace the values that DO mark who he aspires to be. I don't have any idea what's out there, whether or not there is such a thing as an afterlife. I'm okay with not knowing. It would be nice to think there's something more if only because "being" is the only state I've ever known, it's hard to imagine not being as it cannot be experienced. It's a non-experience. I don't believe there's a god or gods out there, and that's also not the same question as following the vision offered by any organized religion. For that, it's a matter of conscience: even if I believed, I could not follow a faith that violates my moral values. If I'm to be punished for that, I will accept it with a clear conscience. To do otherwise is repugnant to my very being. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Take care, I know you can work your way through all of this. You have NOTHING to feel guilty over. You are who you are. Whatever conclusion you ultimately reach (if any - it's okay not to!), value your self.
@@SimianJack I concur about Seth I would also recommend an ex Christian who's YT channel is 'paulogia' a very intelligent look at why Christianity is baseless. If you are looking for a bit of humour on the subject then darkmatter2525 and nonstampcollector are excellent at parodying religion . On your point of 'not being' I always think about what it was like for 'me' in the billions of years before I was born and think that is what it will be like after I die.
abhi reddy I really like yr reply. I’m a Christian and have had enough. We are on a spiritual journey. I was told before I was a Christian that I was a healer and I had spirit guides. I felt at peace then Christians told me it was Satan. It’s so confusing. I feel at peace if I just look at things spiritually and free. Inside me I feel at peace but there’s a strong I can’t go to heaven when I die if I don’t believe in christ. Help.
Finally, a video of someone who shares what I have been feeling about Christianity. How can you love something that's based off of fear? and constantly serving someone your entire life when you should enjoy your life without sacrificing or being in fear to be a "Good Christian" Idk.. I don't want to be trapped in a box. I want to live my life and do good, but not be told I'm going to Hell for not doing something or the other. It's very controlling. I wish others would see that as well, but to each its own.
Yeah, totally get that. So true. People in Christianity talk about how God is love, and he loves you and his love is unconditional as well, but at the same time they also tell you that you're gonna go to hell for not doing what you're supposed to do. It's honestly really messed up, and so backwards. This religion isn't at all what the Christians crack it up to be.
@@spirituallysafe It’s really not confusing. I’m not speaking on christian’s who do not move by fear. I’m speaking on those that do, and who feel like their life should be consumed by fear and fulfilling everything but themselves. That’s just my opinion.
I was raised in a Pentecostal church which I do not regret. I left at 14 and renewed my beliefs in my 20s. I've lived wildly and done all sorts for many years. The last few years have been a test as I was spiritually abused by a lady pastor. Nobody believed me fully even the associate Pastor who was a man. This is 3 years ago. I now do not put anyone on a pedestal! The church is not a building it's ur own faith and walk with God who I still believe in.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
The bible say; in John2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us."
@@oluwabunmiayodele1873 meaning, The bible is saying fo those who left the faith "thye weren't with us, they did not belong to us" that's why they left. I don't think she understands the bible clearly.
True. Many will call Jesus Lord on that day, but will be seen as never knowing Christ. I have listened to alot of stories like the youtubers and they all have the same message.
Good for you for finding the courage to find your own truth and think for yourself. Christianity never resonated with me, I'd try to believe just to fit in but never felt true to me. I found truth and comfort in my spirituality, once I abandoned all religion and found my spirituality everything started to make sense and feel right. I found Karma and chakras, tarot, past lives and reincarnation to be absolutely true after tons of research and soul searching. There was so much proof and consistency all without all the contradictions you find in christianity. This is my belief and I hope you find the answers that make you happy as well!
9:50 "They who dont know the Lord will go to hell!" Yeah. Thats one of the main things that makes christianity a religion like anyone else. Its built on fear. You have to choose between A and B. If you choose B you will be tormented for ever. "What do you choose!" If you think about it this way it feels absolutely sick and insane but that is actually the main core of the christianity.
I do not see it that way. At first the reality of afterlife grabs a persons attention, but then over time it should be the love and understanding of God, that makes us.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 But its still the threat of hell that fucks up everything. Many, many people has been indoctrinated believeing in hell fire since they were kids. Parents are feeding their children with the "thruth" so that they are not going to be condemned by God. Its the same with islam I think.
People do possess free will! The Lord we serve never said dwelling on earth wouldn’t make his children encounter setbacks or even death… The devil is the one who destroys whereas God restores! Don’t give up or disappoint Him like i did….GIVE YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST
Bruh u should check out Islam we don’t blind in blind faith it’s pure logical faith out of all religion ppl r leave Christianity n Islam is da fastest growing religion they even said in bbc too and in my humble thought. And we do believe in Jesus Christ peace be upon him we can’t be Muslim if we don’t believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus never preach Christianity nor he called himself Christian n church was around b4 Jesus was even born 330yrs bb4 he born n We hav a hole chapter named after Mary in da holy Quran u should check it out n we believe the bible is corrupted dats why God send another prophet to tell the truth to ppl n tell who Jesus Christ peace be upon him is. Peace and blessings of God be upon you 😊
AB- HDGamer There is no evidence for your religion either. People have been trying to prove a god exists since we started making up stories to explain natural phenomena in our caveman days. And since those days, whenever we’ve discovered an answer, the answer has never been “god did it”.
Thanks for your honesty, open mindedness. I was raised a Roman Catholic but stopped practicing that denomination of Christianity along time ago. I have never read the Bible cover to cover or got into big time study, but I have read books of the Bible, sometimes a few times. I would say now, I'm 60 yrs. old, that I'm more of an agnostic than a Christian. Tapestry! The tapestry of the world's cultures is a wonderful thing. Having an open mind, and embracing the various cultural differences, makes for a more peaceful existence, as compared to closed minded tribalistic, egocentric mind construct. Coexistence is more, "Christian ", to me than a, " if you don't walk like us, talk like us, think like us, worship like us...etc...etc mind set. Especially now, towards the end of 2020, this, " my way or the highway", thinking is way out of hand. Being one species...human...does not mean no individuality. Our very nature, the life force, the spirit, the soul, whatever name you want to give it, is in all of us. Coming from the same source. It's just in differing vessels. Male vessels, female vessels. Light skin pigments or darker pigments. Tall, short, blonde or brunette...etc...etc. Even in nature. The same life force. It's the force that powers a stars burning, the gravitational forces. This force...you can call it God, Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah or the great I AM. We are it!! I AM that I AM is such a great statement of being secure in who you are! No judgment, just acceptance. I love the diversity of our world, of our species! Embrace...not hate. Peace.
@@Jeezkv I am sure that my limited human brain can not begin to comprehend the wonders that await us after this play that we are currently involved in is done but, after listening to and reading the accounts of hundreds of people who have shared their Near Death Experiences, it is evident that what we have been taught is just the tip of the iceberg. We like to think that we have it all figured out and that what we have come to believe is ultimate truth. I guess that makes us feel safe and secure. It is funny how every faith believes that they know exactly what is going to happen when ultimately nobody has a corner on the market of truth. I know this does not really answer your question but, that is the point. And for anyone to assume that they know what is going to happen after this life is over is not logical at all. If that was possible they would have to possess the entire wisdom of the Universe. We both know that is not possible at this point. Peace and Love to you.
@@thekman1812 u r right. No man knows what will happen in the afterlife, but for God. God through the Holy spirit, vision and appearance revealed what will happen and that entirely possible. Isn't it. Revelation and the book of Daniel is about it
@@thekman1812 which religion claims a similar revelation. In Islam, they will be provided with 72 Virgins and all what the heart desires (materialistic). In Christianity, it is the fellowship with Christ we r going to get
I was born in muslim country. But i have lived in skandinavia all my life and my family are not religious., we believe in being Good with everyone and thats all. I met this Christian guy and he came to my work all the time. He was very charming and sweet at the beginning. once he wanted to meet me so we met up. after a while he was so weird. Very jealous and controlling. He would say that my spirit attacks him and that he cant be with a woman without marriage. I said thats cool i respect that. Then He asked me to marry him only if get Christian. He said i have to submit to him. Asked him what He mean about submit? He said that i should do Everything and agree with what he wanted from A wife. I said hell no thats abuse and controll. He later on started to say i am a devil because i dont believe in Jesus and that i Will go to hell. I Got so depressed from him all i did was be Nice to him. He turned out so evil and Everything was a sin for him. Later on i found out he is scizofrenic and had been in mental hospital all his life. He was a hypocrite And now im scared of Christian people. Very jugdemental and crazy.
I am so sorry for you😔. People be that way, especially religious ones, I have much experience with them but I am not Christian or religious. QUESTION EVERYTHING! You did great😊!
You are Strong. You are a survivor. As for me I choose to be a Muslim because I received signs n saw beings after I asked a question my testimony is on my channel. Along with my paranormal experiences if you are interested. More videos on the way . For the record i had a scizophenia test turns out im normal ( more like paranormal). Peace from England UK
@@mysecretsketchbook865 "..........As for me I choose to be a Muslim because I received signs n saw beings after I asked a question..........." LEAVE THE CARLSBERG ALONE MATE...! Keith MANCHESTER
I left Christianity in 2017 and the Bible nonsense and I had evolved a lot since then. The understanding of myself, the nature of reality and love for others have amplified massively in my life since i left such cancer by the name of Abrahamic religions.
@@angelmariyajose5343 I left Christianity and not God. The Bible is a book about a tribal deity called Yahweh that Moses borrowed from the tribes of the desert. Yahweh is not God the Bible is not well translated. The Bible is also full of distortions, borrowings and false teachings. There is no God in the Bible.
@@angelmariyajose5343 there are thousand of proofs if you search data and research books. The Bible is borrowed from many places for example most of the book of proverbs is from the book of wisdom of Amenope a Egyptian philosopher. Most psalms are from other cultures such as Baalism, Egyptian, Sumerian , Persian ect. Most of the borrowings come from the nations that the Israelites were slaves like Egypt and Sumeria. They just adapted it to their culture. Even the Egyptians did not eat pork because of Horus and the black pig story
I was raised church of Christ. Got saved and went regular. Never too involved other than normal service. Rarely did I do much religiously on my own. At 16 I had a bad break up with my first heartbreak. Before things fell apart I prayed for it to work out. It didnt but before that other things crept in my mind. Like how the majority of my church were old jerks with non biblical yet justifies views. Also noticed all were rich and we were a dirt poor family. So the break up happens and that began a cascade of doubts. I went agnostic for about 2 years. Went back to faith after gramps died. Stayed with it about 10 years loosely. Then over dosed on my medicine amd went to rehab. There I was told addiction is a disease and I had no choice. Yet I belived in a God of free choice. The words echoed in my mind "made sick commanded to be cured". Then I slowly deconverted for about a year. Slowly those skeletons in closets crept out. Those unanswered questions came back. So I took off my God glasses and studied the bible. Boi that did a lot. Now I'm a deist and far from religious. There's my story.
The bible can be appealing in good and bad ways depending on your personal feelings and blind mentality. Following God requires constant spiritual growth, you havent studied on that.
This is exactiy what just has been revealed to me. You reflect me 100% Im 24 hours into. Ugggh. You soooo speak my thoughts. Thank you for sharing. I read somewhere the Catholic wrote the new testament, too?? Ugggh.
we are not all going to be on the same page as christians.....I cant understand how some christians think its ok to join the military.......let the holy spirit lead your journey with God
I don't know when it will happen, but you inspired me to make an effort to share my deconversion story with the world in the same format that you have presented. There are certainly a lot of topics to cover, and there are a lot of variables that can't be spoken on easily. It's important to me that I put my story out there somehow, so that maybe I could inspire someone else to think rationally about their own perspective and to further solidify my own thoughts and put my story in a tangible format.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 How does one rationally conclude that that the Bible is correct? Please demonstrate how it is irrational to believe that our existence resulted from probability. Sure, believing that existence is a result of creation is easier but how would it be more accurate ?
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
Listening to you is EXACTLY how I felt in the church.. I also was raised in the church and felt the exact same way. I’m so glad I met my husband because he really opened my heart and mind to see things so differently and to really learn to love people just as they are. It’s nice to NOT feel like I have all the answers being so much willing to hear other sides and really be more of an open human being!
Hi Jaden, I myself have NEVER been religious, neither will I ever be. My dad is a Christian but he never pushed it on me and he accepts and loves everyone. Because he's originally from the West Indies, all his family have been brought up having religion instilled into them from an early age. Because I'm British, I thankfully didn't have that pushed on me. I went to Sunday school a few times and liked it, but even at around 7 or 8, I knew that what I heard and read were all just stories (especially the more fantastical elements of The Bible). I knew this was fake before I even knew Santa Clause wasn't real! My dad doesn't go to church now (especially now he's got health issues) but he's not particularly religious either, more spiritual. And that's the thing; I have zero problem with Spirituality and I myself do think that there could well be a higher power or whatever that is behind the scenes. But religion? Now that's just a man made construct and unfortunately it's arguably the single biggest detriment (or at least one of) to mankind and it's continual evolution. And I personally have to commend you on managing to sit through that sermon with that pastor doing the whole fire and brimstone shtick. I would have been up and out of there, screw that! Btw, you're a lil' cutie - Are you like 5"2' or something? :-)
How sad, it just goes to show you that your father either didnt believe and was just a churchgoer or he doesnt care about you enough. Christians are commanded to spread the message.
We share very similar views and see things similar when it comes to what does not relate in Christianity. I left Christianity almost 5 years ago as well after growing up in it and being baptized taking my faith seriously when I was 23. Thanks for sharing!
Baptism doesnt necessarily mean you are serious. I got baptised 5 times, it does mean a thing, what matters is the marriage and not the proposal. That is all a baptism is, a proposal.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination". They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction. Luckely the original line is clearly visible. 1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27. 2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3. 3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17. Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day! Some examples of these idiotic translation errors. Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin. Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life. "You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him. "Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth. Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love! Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!! Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there. So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense. In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion. For God so loved the world.... God cannot be tempted to do evil.... There is no turning or shifting with Him.... If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love.... The goal of all instruction is... love The Father Himself loves you.... Jesus healing all..... love Jesus raising the dead..... love Jesus casting out demons.... love Jesus controlling nature..... love If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not! Etc, etc , etc.
It is a breath of fresh air hearing about your deconversion story. I am going through a very similar situation and it is great hearing someone else. Thanks for sharing!!
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@jameswittmann1608 hey James! From your comment it seams that you are a very passionate individual. That is supper cool. Is there a main point that you are trying to communicate? You touched on so many topics it is difficult to know what to reply to. Since posting this comment six months ago I have been doing an insane amount of research and soul searching and I would actually push back on a few of your points. I believe that it is harmful to think that we are inherently wicked and that without God we are somehow hopeless. You talk like are all doomed to eternal torment without the saving grace of Jesus. Firstly, I am calling bull on that. How do we even know that there is any hell or an afterlife? Second, if what you are saying is true i see things a bit different. You say that Jesus is a parachute to save us from an inevitable doom that we rightfully deserve. I would say that in this scenario Jesus is more like a masochist who pushed you out of a plain without a parachute and will let you plummet to your to your death unless you worship him for how awesome he is for letting you live. You say that we deserved to be on the cross for our sins and that Jesus took our place. I say that no one deserves to be crucified. If God has the ability to forgive sins why would he be so insecure as to first need worship from people? If God has the ability to save people from eternal torment then why would he need a human sacrifice in the first place? Because God's justice rage needs to be satisfied? So his big plan is to murder his son to satisfy his own blood lust? James, you think that we are all inherently wicked and without hope without God. I see that your beliefs are strong. That is all that it is though, just a strong belief that does not hold up under scrutiny. Are you a perfect person? Probably not. But I would wager that you have better morals than the God of the Bible. If random people were plummeting to their deaths and you had the power to save them would you require arbitrary proclamations of faith before saving them? I thought that salvation was complete on the cross. If a proclamation of faith is required before that salvation is applied then the work was not actually completed on the cross.
I didn't grow up in church. I had all the freedom to choose what I wanted to be. Sounds like you are talking about the human experience. Remember, God is a gentleman. He knocks on your door and politely waits for you to open the door. It has nothing to do with the church and people. It is about your Personal Relatinship with God. That is all there is to it. Bless you!
Had the same experience, I was doing the sound and church while the pastor was talking about being devoured by demons if people don't tithe and that moment I decided to leave
@@doratheexplorer5354 Who says it is not wrong? And i can see how you have been made to believe, that it changes your life better. Wouldnt want to change with you.
I grew up mostly in a non denominational baptist-y church, but went to AoG when I was young, and an AoG school from 7-12th grades. My experience with church and Christianity was similar to yours, which is why it took until age 30 to really feel comfortable with asking those hard questions and getting answers that took me away from faith. I moved in my early 20's so my connection to my church community began to sever, but I still found new christian family to join, however it allowed me to start asking some questions of myself and my faith. I had asked them before even as a young teen, but was afraid of the answers. I'm 10 years out of it now and trying to raise my kids to think for themselves, but my wife is christian and they still attend church. But I hope they don't derive their identity from it, like I did. Thanks for sharing your story Jaden! edit: I also like that your whole goal is to be a more loving and caring person. I agree, which is why I think knowledge and science matters, so that we can use that to help people more! I want to live in a world where humans show genuine love for one another, regardless of identity or background.
I didn't expect to like your video, but I actually enjoyed listening to you. I liked your honesty - you didn't pretend like some people that Christians are 'evil' and terrible people, but you admitted that there are things you enjoyed about Christian fellowship and that you still appreciate now, those nice relationships of caring for one another. In my view, based upon your video, you still are a Christian and a more caring and mature one than you were before. 'Hate' is not a part of the gospel of Jesus, nor is disliking other people because they have different views from Christians. As Christians we're called to follow the gospel of caring for others, not judging them or criticising them - that isn't part of the gospel. Having faith in Jesus is not 'religion'. Its trusting the one who left an empty tomb and was seen resurrected by over 500 people. As for life after death, there are so many reports of near death experiences, which contain elements which cannot be explained, except by some form of spiritual experience, that we should know enough at this present time, to say that we cannot rule consciousness beyond death, out. Personally, I'm convinced that experiences of near death historically form part of the biblical narrative. The heart of the gospel of Jesus is not 'fear of Hell', but love of God and of other people.
Yeah .... at the end of the day christianity is about carrots(Heaven) and sticks(Hell). I just don’t believe the Bible is historically accurate but is a book of mythology. I left religion in my mid 20s and I’m now agnostic. I’m happy with my decision but I’m all for people finding faith if that is what they feel compelled to do.
Bruh u should check out Islam we don’t blind in blind faith it’s pure logical faith out of all religion ppl r leave Christianity n Islam is da fastest growing religion they even said in bbc too and in my humble thought. And we do believe in Jesus Christ peace be upon him we can’t be Muslim if we don’t believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus never preach Christianity nor he called himself Christian n church was around b4 Jesus was even born 330yrs bb4 he born n We hav a hole chapter named after Mary in da holy Quran u should check it out n we believe the bible is corrupted dats why God send another prophet to tell the truth to ppl n tell who Jesus Christ peace be upon him is. Peace and blessings of God be upon you 😊
I urge you to look into the history of the Quran and how Islam also came about. Specially look at how Islam relates to the planet Saturn. ALL major (Christianity, Islam,Judaism) religions is Saturn worship (go see why you circle the black cube at Meca and where that actually comes from), don't take my word for it though. Do your research.
Nompumelelo M lmao u getting brainwashed bruh 😂😂😂😭💀🤦🏾♂️ we don’t worship da black stone it’s da direction we face for unity prayer hav u ever read da Quran instead watching islamphobia websites n video
If I could ask you, how did you conclude that it is myth. Have you gone through history. Archaeological evidence and Roman historian Tacitus confirmed that Jesus was crucified. They are not Christian, dead against Jewish Christian faith. Read more history and of course, it will make sense
Great video! I left the church also. "Hell" is such an absurd, medieval concept. Besides, I wouldn't want to worship a God that would create such a place.
I am not in any way trying to criticise you so please don't take it that way haha I would just like to share my perspective too :) I respect your opinion, just wanted to share a little bit. I don't think that hell is this place that God sends people to suffer forever because they were not 'good enough'. Heaven, is a place where someone can spend all eternity in the presence of God. Hell is the absence of God's presence. "Sending" someone to hell is not about God making people suffer, it's about honouring that person's decision in life not to follow God. It would actually be unjust and unloving if God forced people to go to heaven and live in His presence if they did not want to. This does not make hell any less bad. I think that being out of God's presence, the One who loves us so deeply and adores us, is hell. But I just wanted to share a bit of my perspective, as opposed to the traditional "fires of hell". I think that that imagery of fire and flame is a symbol or representative of the suffering that exists outside of the presence of God. It's not about God being vindictive and causing people to suffer. It says in the Bible that God WANTS all people to be saved and live with Him. That is why He saves us by grace, to make the way free for us to come to Him. He does not want His children to go to hell, but if they choose not to be in relationship with him, he honours their decision even if it is hard for him.
God created it for the things you love but that hate you. The devil and his allies (Demons) will go there, and it was made for them. Imagine if God created a better place than hell for humans, people would stop believing in Him and live more freely. The point is God says you want to follow the devil in rebellion, Join him.
When God created the earth it was perfect. When God created man, he was perfect and innocent. Man disobeyed God and sin entered into the world and death by sin, so death is passed upon all men in that all have sinned. You can reject God if you wish, but the Bible states in John ch. 3 v 18 that you are condemned already because you do not believe. God loves you and sent His Son to die to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. He offers you His mercy and salvation in grace to prevent you going to a lost eternity in hell and the Lake of Fire. Hell was for the devil and his angels, not for mankind. Do not forget, God is a Holy God and hates sin, as well as a God of Love. That is why God has made provision for you in His Son, Jesus Christ.
I uploaded my comment before I had finished. I should have said thankyou for opening up about this, and I hope your continuing spiritual journey works out well for you.
Dude .. i so respect your journey.. i literally had the same experience to an extent in my own life. And i have to admit i been feeling dead inside for the last year and you inspired me to walk in my own light . ❤ much love dude and i wish nothing but the best for u .
Fantastic, short, brave and classy presentation. This should help anyone struggling with those very personal and deep thoughts about spirituality and religion.
Thanks Jaden - I really appreciate what you shared, and how you shared it. I am a retired Episcopalian priest from Ireland, now living in Thailand. Everything you say has the ring of truth in it - authentic. That's the basis of a healthy spirituality. I am sure you are a wonderful nurse - not needing to 'save' people but just giving them your loving attention in the present. I hope to have a book out in the autumn which promotes PERSON-centred spirituality. To help people to have the courage to use religious organisations which are helpful to them, and by-pass those which are not. It's YOUR life - enjoy it to the full!
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
Thank you so much for sharing. I truly believe that more of these stories need to be shared. You're so brave for opening yourself in this way. Do you feel like you're missing the community?
Having a relationship with God is what we need! Talk to him read your bible the devil does everything to take people away from God fight back and don’t forsake God cause he’ll never forsake you!
I left religion when I was younger. The church was a very toxic/ abusive place/ mindset/idea for me growing up. I was an atheist and agnostic.... The reason I believe in Jesus now is because I realize I misjudged Him and His word based on religion, other Christians aka other flawed people, church traditions and trauma I was experiencing.... God is actually love... that realization, His love is what keeps me now. When I have the feeling of not wanting to be a Christian (it still happens ) I remember I need to allow God's love to touch what ever part of my heart is rejecting His love. I'm not perfect at it but God doesn't change if He was love yesterday He still is today. No matter what He loves us. 🧸💕🧸 It's a love that follows us even when we turn away are broken...a love that's always waiting for us...
I had to go to church daily before school. I got out of the Catholic church in my teens but then tried other churches. Some good some bad in all of them but for years I've stayed the hell out of them for good reason. I love God and His word. He has nothing to hide. The bible is truth and NO ONE can get around it. So many have gone away from God because they were hurt by churches or they pretended to know what the bible said when in truth they didn't care to study it. Anyway, it's good to see people like you who have the desire to truly know God and thank Him for all His many blessings. The best is yet to come, too!
@@2fast2blockThank you kindly! I hope you had a lovely day! Yes, sadly people are flawed we all are. It is because God loves us in our flaws that we are able to love others by His Spirit. One of the ways Gods love is expressed through us is by how we love and work in unity with His family, ie other born again believers. I pray you find a church home some day a safe place to receive and give love in Christ.🧸💕🧸
Thank you for this video. I have similar experience. We only have one life, better live without fear, be bold take responsibly and be kind. I have a specific problem with how the church twists the money aspect saying you should give even tho you don't have saying you will get 10 filds back.. making people jepordize their finances "for God" and make believe money don't matter so they don't learn and take responsibly for their personal economy. How are you supposed to help people if you are stuck...
Does anyone else still have that reflex of "EVIL 🙅" whenever you see a statue of buddha, a poster of astrology, the Yin and Yang symbol or any of that stuff? It was so drilled into us that those were not of god, and therefore evil, that I still have that knee jerk reaction. And what's with the "🤟"? Why would that be evil?! 😂 It's all so random.. I'm in like this weird middle right now, where I definitely don't believe in the Bible anymore and I'm really broadening my horizons with other readings and learning about atheism and other religions. I don't believe in god anymore as it's portrayed in christianity, but I still automatically pray at night and throughout the day. It's weird.. kinda have to find my way..
I grew up Muslims and I went through a lot doubts and questioning of the faith and eventually religion as a whole. I still believe in a higher power but I think all these organized religions in the world are very similar to each other and that they are man made. Even the aspects of science has started to feel like a religion. Thank you for your video.
There is a difference between following Religion and doing all of the things that check the “boxes” e.g. going to church, and having a personal Relationship with Jesus. I think that is a trap that a lot of people have fallen into. As well as the “Church experience” and Biblical illiteracy, which I also fell into as a new follower of Christ. This would allow you to answer the questions that may have been stumbling blocks on your way out of faith - in the Bible it says that we should know how to answer the difficult questions to be able to defend our faith - 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. Lord Jesus I thank you for Jaden’s life. I thank you for keeping and prospering her Lord. I thank you for leaving the 99 and chasing after her heart. I thank you for touching and transforming her heart and helping her to realise that you are the truth the way and the light. Give her revelation and confirmation and fill her with living hope. I come against any plans of the enemy to kill, steal and destroy in her life, and I thank you for your perfect peace that abounds understanding. I bless your name Lord Jesus. Amen.
I stopped being a Christian when I was fasting & praying to the Christian God for a fiancial blessing & things turned for the worst... My dad ended up getting a medical condition where he couldnt walk for months & everything in my life was going down hill & while all this took place, the holy spirit convicted me of to keep praying & singing praises to God for healing for my dad. So you hurt my father just so that you can get the glory & praise in the end for healing my father when God inflicted this? That is narcisstic. The holy spirit during that time told me to have faith & reminded me of the book of Job. God allowed Satan to attack Job by killing his family & causing depression on Job. The bible talks about how people making sacrifices to other gods as bad yet, The Christian God does the same thing like how God allowed Satan to kill Jobs family as sacrifice so that Job can get blessed 7fold. God killed innocent babies & people many times as well. Do i really want to worship a god that is narcisstic & cruel? Thanks but no thanks
My heart is soo with you. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom in the true Gospel. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate acceptance which will produce the "works" over time, but is secondary to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: ruclips.net/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/видео.html This is 8 years later, in the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where their opinion is valid and important. God's love. Nicolas
Yes, when we believe, as the book of Romans constantly says, He will cleanse us of all unrighteousness. His law is written on our hearts and if we truly believe in what He has done for us on the cross, He will help us follow that law by His Spirit. It's not works of our flesh but of Him who is in us!
I understand your journey. I took a similar journey. There are things you need to get rid of and let go. But following Leary or anyone else without God will be a dead end. It may take years, but you will see. A good question to ask ALWAYS "who is talking?"
Right on! I too was indoctrinated into, and at the age of 23 escaped from, an assemblies of god church. I'm now 47. Writing that just now made me realize that I've been free of religion longer than I've been trapped by it! Ahhhhh, breathe it in! No more guilt, no more fear, no more feeling like I am somehow falling short. They want to try to convince you that you were born sick, then offer you the holistic cure! (That's a borrowed quote). It seems to me that your humanity is what shined through and broke the spell. How freakin awesome are you! Christianity didn't feel right because it ain't right. It's like waking up isn't it! Oh, by the way, there is quite possibly a secular/skeptical/atheist community not far from you (unless you live in the boondocks)! You should check it out! Thank you for sharing this...made my night!
That is the problem of the church they say that you cannot do certain things, that is okay to do and they say you are guilty before God and that you need to be saved. Although this is true, messengers should not dwell on that message.Its not good, there is so much more to being a christian then Jesus death on the cross.
Don't judge Christianity by your limited experience. Unlike you, I lived a wayward, self-centered life as an atheist before encountering Jesus Christ in a powerful way at the age of 30. From that moment I have been free of guilt, free of fear, secure in the knowledge that I am fully accepted by God. No one has had to convince me of anything that I have not discovered for myself. I have now drunk from the well of my freedom in Christ longer than I was in the dry spiritual desert I was in before. What turns churches into prisons is that they become inward-looking communities of like-minded people. Don't make the same mistake . The only "community" we need to belong to is the human race.
@@bibleburner8426 I have read the Bible many times and studied much of it in depth. It sounds as if you are cherry picking a few verses without considering their context or relationship to the whole. That is not an appropriate was to read any piece of literature.
I totally respect your decision. The terrifying aspect of hell, I feel sometimes is what tries to keep me on the straight and narrow. I feel shame and guilt for sins I've committed. I'm guilt ridden all the time and cannot snap out of it. It is strange how we are told to fear the wrath of God, yet he loves you. 🤔 What kind of sense is that? As for what's on the otherside, thats a bit trickier. It is the unknown of course, but I was lucky enough to have the most phenomenal experience after my mother passed. My mother was a woman of deep faith. She was born and raised Catholic. She attended Catholic schools throughout her entire school years and I believe the nuns and the church gave her a distaste in her mouth. She never raised us kids through the Catholic church. She was diagnosed with cancer and I remember a few weeks before she passed we had a pretty in depth conversation about death. I was laying on her lap as she was holding her rosary and saying her hail Marys. She talked into great length about her fear of hell. I tried to comfort her and let her know that God knew her true heart and not to worry, her repentance was all she needed. Now as I was saying before about the most incredible experience I have ever had. It was 8 days after my mom passed. I was walking around to my side of the bed to pull back the blankets when I heard my mom's voice. She said my name and that she is ok. She said it telepathically like a thought transference. It was her voice without any doubt and I wasn't on drugs, hallucinating, or remembering her voice to hear what I needed to hear. It was her! It was heard in my brain, telepathically is the only word that best describes it. I didnt hear her with my ears and if anyone else would've been in the room they wouldn't have heard her either. You see the night we had, when I was laying on her lap I asked her if it's possible to let me know she's ok after she died, that's exactly what she did. This is called an After Death Communication, (AOCs) and there are thousands you can read online. A website devoted to just that. So I have without a doubt, I 100% believe our consciousness exists outside our bodies. Where we go is the question?
Preachers are preaching a message that is true God has wrath, but he also loves and only uses wrath as justice, His love is freely given and can be accepted and held by anyone and everyone who wants it.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
The Lord Jesus Christ who was fucks me off, and you are more than fine with my insulting him. I pray to God, and in that prayer I say I tell the Lord Jesus Christ who was the only Son of God that I hate him, because of what he never promised in life on Earth! I WILL EVANGELIZE HATRED FOR HIM, BECAUSE HE WAS A SORRY ASS MOTHER FUCKER, AND A SUCKER FUCKER FOR ALL OF THE LOVE I HAVE FOR HIM, AND I HAVE ASKED HIM TO DAMN MY SOUL TO HELL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE HE DID NOT PHYSICALLY HEAL ON EARTH!
I grew up in a evangelical church, as well and I had no other option as a child but to attend and sometimes 6 days a week for various activities. My dad was a lay church leader in every church we attended and his faith and expectations for us to believe like him dominated our family. Yet as a child I learned to read before even kindergarten and I read my mom’s book club fiction (not science fiction). Even this fiction reflected the writers’ backgrounds in various religious faith traditions. I learned that humans make efforts to grasp the concept of death and the questions of why we are born and our purposes in life and it became clear to me that efforts toward religion are simply human efforts to cope with the idea of death and the life, if it could possibly continue on after death. One would think that if there was a God there would be a clear message where humans don’t have to flail around in competing faith concepts in order to find peace.
I felt out of my relationship with Christ, and believe me it has nothing to do with to do with organized religion. Jesus is Lord🙏🏼🙌Hope you can experience him. Everything will pass but his word will never pass. We cant suit the truth to suit what is more accommodating to us. We can imagine all we want but, God has already said in his Word. 🙏🏼
Our greatest weakness is not out there, but our own hearts and it is a heart issue, not a head issue - we do not what we're suppose to do, and what we ought not, we do - who shall deliver us from this body of death? Regardless your worldview everyone is faced with this dilemma, as well as the questions to origin, meaning, morality and destiny that has to be answered coherently and consistently. Every human being has a master, the unbeliever either worships Self, or science, or idols (eg. a job, or money, or tv, or sport), or other gods, etc. The born again child of God has surrendered whatever they had on the alter of their hearts to God, to give to Him His rightful place in their lives, because our Creator isn't just another thing in our lives, we acknowledge Him as Lord, for in Him we live and move and have our being. What is truth? There's no such thing as your truth or my truth - that's the beauty of truth it is absolute, mutually exclusive, coherent and consistent. Jesus Christ said He is the Way, the Truth and the Life: The person of Jesus Christ provides a coherent and consistent answer in the incarnation, He identifies our malady, provides for our malady, draws us into that relationship, takes us through the process of suffering, shows us the purity of Himself in the way He taught and lived and ultimately rising from the dead. He teaches us that time is merely a temporal thing, we are here for Eternity and He alone is able to take us through the cross, not a way but the way, pass the empty tomb into the very presence of God. Eye has not seen, ear has not heard, neither has entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.
I now understand what Paul means about being tossed to and fro by diffrent winds of doctrine. I now understand Jesus when he spoke about building our house on a rock.
Thank you for sharing your story. I can't help but say...when you spoke of not resonating with the concept of non-Christians going to hell. It sounds like you were listening to the "religion" and people ('Pharisees' as God would say today) & not what the Bible and Jesus say. God looks at the heart (1 Samuel 16:7). This can definitely be confusing if you look at (imperfect) people; but it's important to stay focused on what Jesus says only and not the regurgitation of scripture from society or even a lot of the misguided churches these days. Regardless, I am on my own journey and trying to be healthy in my pursuit of living in truth -- I am open to hearing the stories of atheists, Christians, those who have deconverted, other religions. So, again, thank you for sharing your experience. I wish you all the best!
But if she's not Christian then she likely wouldn't believe Christian doctrines. She doesn't vilify the Pharisees like Christians often do, doesn't hero worship Jesus and she doesn't regard the bible as the word of god. That's what not being a Christian means... not believing biblical claims, at least certain claims. The doctrine of hell is perhaps greatest of all reasons not to believe. Any belief system that would use such a sick and twisted fear tactic to coerce conformity and recruit new members is not a belief system worth having. It's sure sign of a fraud. Only an nefarious mind could conceive of something so evil as eternal torment and use it to achieve an agenda.
Koko Davina Koko Davina fair question!! I pray for discernment, which the Bible says you should do. But, also, I believe two things: 1. That God is qualified to ensure that what we need, the core of the Bible, has been delivered to us. 2. Because the Biblical faith is relationship based it is most important that you focus on that...meaning, if all we ever had was John 3:16, it would be enough to build a faith-based relationship with the living God and the rest would be revealed to you through that. Also, for me, a book surviving almost 3000 years that continues to have the impact the Bible has had, the controversy even, is something worth reading regardless of what you decide or choose to believe ultimately
@@emskeeeee hey Emily I agree discernment is very important. I have never read the bible fully but from what I have read God does not come across as i've always imagined him to be which is unconditionally loving. He is portrayed as angry, wrathful, jealous & narcissistic, he honestly sounds like how I imagined the devil would be. It's confusing. It makes me question the motives of the people that wrote and edited it. It seems like a tool for control but I have friends & family that are christian and they are lovely people so I don't judge anybody for their religion or what they choose to believe. I think if you are a good person with a good heart that's what matters. Thanks for the reply and hope you are doing well.
Thank you for telling your story. I love your shirt. It has caused me to smile. Because I rarely de-wrinkle anything. Your shirt is a metaphor for your post-Christian life.
Mostly everyone will be questioning the truth but not the answer until they go within. I Believe meditation and eating healthy and connecting with nature can help YOU connect with GOD and your higher self.
Its impossible to connect with God and be spiritual, yet not consider Jesus's teaching. The opposite is also true. The higher self also comes through Jesus teaching, because his teaching is to make us like God in persona.
Thank you for sharing your journey. Although I have to say, as a Catholic, the "Christian" church you describe doesn't sound like the Church/religion I know. As Catholics we do not believe that all other religions/non-believers are doomed to hell. That would not make sense. If you grew up in a remote part of the world and never heard of Christ or you grew into a family/country of another religious faith, it wouldn't be of any fault of your own. Exactly how that works, we do not know, but we believe in God's grace and power. We view life as a journey and are called to help people along the way (even Catholics take heat from other Christians for the focus on "good works"). Good luck to you on your path.
What the hell. (Pun intended) What kind of catholic are you. Of course Catholics say people are going to hell, but they also believe in the unfounded belief of purgatory. As i have said before. Its a license to sin, this alone is enough proof to say purgatory is a lie. If purgatory existed Jesus wouldnt talk about the narrow way and say few will be saved.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 I am the kind of Catholic who loves Christ! And I refuse to respond to your hateful and evil comments! I will just block you instead! May God bless you!
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
Jaden - I watched your video all the way through. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm a committed Christian, and I hope you'll allow me to add some comments. In telling your story, I was struck by the general absence of Jesus (at least, in your telling of it here). I heard a lot about commitment to God, but not much about the person and work of Jesus Christ FOR us. The whole Christian faith hangs on Jesus' death & resurrection. If he rose, the reasonable thing to do is believe. I respect where you're at, but if you're ever open to it, I would recommend reading Reason for God by Tim Keller or Will the Real Jesus Please Stand Up? by Matthew Richard. Peace.
Justin if you are still a committed Christian then there are two very simple questions you need to ask yourself. Question one is; "How important is it to me in my life that the things that I believe to be true are actually factually true?" Give yourself a score of between 1-100 where 1 is "I don't care if what I believe to be true is actually true I just want (need) to believe it" and 100 is "It is vitally important to me that the things I believe to be true are actually factually true" When you have given yourself a score then ask yourself the second question. "What method did I 'personally' use to verify that what I believe to be true is actually true." Now when you answer question two you cant say "It says so in the Bible" because ANYONE from ANY religion can simply say "It is true because my holy book says it is true" you need to have some outside source to verify whether anything you believe is actually true. If you don't have a good answer to question two and you gave yourself a score of 100 in question one then you have no good reason for believing what you do. If you want to give us a score on question one and try and answer question two here on this thread we would love to hear it.
@@sulas548 Hey Sula! Thanks for the questions. I have no problem answering question one as 100%. If I didn't think Christianity was factually true, I wouldn't believe it. To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, Christianity either means everything or nothing, but it cannot be "mildly important." More specifically, Jesus' (physical) Resurrection is at the center of the Faith. If I didn't think it happened, I wouldn't waste my time with it. In line with what the Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:13-19, I believe that "If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. … And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied." As for question two, I'd simply say that I examined the claims being made (just like you would with anything else) and found them to be true on every level (evidentially and experientially, objectively and subjectively) . Sound defenses for the Faith, centered on the death and resurrection of Jesus, are widely available, so I'm not going to try to re-hash those here in a comments thread. Check out the books I previously mentioned or J. Warren Wallace, Cold Case Christianity Frank Turek's Cross-Examined RUclips Channel ruclips.net/user/TurekVideo N.T. Wright, Resurrection of the Son of God (kinda long!) Jesus Under Fire by Wilkins and Moreland Since you mentioned the validity of the Bible, though, I will just say that its textual credibility is unlike any other sacred scripture. There simply is no parallel. The textual transmission through history is so certain and voluminous its ridiculous. See below: visualunit.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/nt_reliability1.png Your line of questioning seems to assume that there are no good reasons to be a faithful Christian. I'll end by posing some questions back to you: are you sure that's the case? Are you sure you understand what the heart of Christianity is? Are you sure you understand the person and massive claims of Jesus Christ, as found in the New Testament? “There is enough light for those who only desire to see, and enough obscurity for those who have a contrary disposition” - Pascal
@@justinclemente1772 Justin thank you for your civil response, I will split my response into two posts. I have clicked on all your links and have read some of the books you mentioned. From my point of view there are two aspects to any faith and those are 'emotion' and 'facts'. I will deal with emotion first as that will address your question to me. Every religion that is extant or extinct has had devotees that will use the 'personal experiences' (PE) to justify their beliefs and I am sure that you will also fall into this category but since PE is used in every religion and for thousands of gods it cannot be relied upon as a pathway to the truth. I have visited 54 countries and lived for many years in seven of them on five different continents. I have spoken in depth to people of all the major religions and without exception they all think that what they believe is 100% true and what everyone else believes is wrong. I have found the Christians to be generally the most conceited and arrogant when it comes to proclaiming that their PE with their god is of a better quality than others and that therefore gives Christianity more credence . There has been research into the affects of Dopamine on the brain during religious experiences which clearly demonstrates that the wonderful feeling that you, and all other devotees from other religions throughout history, feel when engaging with your respective gods is purely a chemical reaction on the pleasure centres of your brain and has no outside source. Watch this video ruclips.net/video/ocuqguH1OIw/видео.html So from my point of view any PE that you have relating to your god is easily explained by simple chemical brain activity. Christians often use faith as there last resort argument when they run out of facts but ever forget that; Faith is simply pretending to know something that you don't actually know. ANYONE can believe ANYTHING using faith. Faith is not a pathway to the truth. Faith is what you revert to when you have no evidence. So to summarise, getting a warm fuzzy feeling inside when you interact with your god is NOT evidence for your god it is evidence that you had a warm fuzzy feeling and nothing more.
@@justinclemente1772 And now to the factual side. If you are being honest by giving yourself a score of 100 (which I hope you are) then it is incumbent on you to investigate fully your beliefs and I don't think you have done that. It appears to me that you have started with the assertion that the Bible is true and then looked for anything that backs up that position I am a bit disappointed with your selection of links. Frank Turek is someone that I have witnessed be very dishonest in his arguments, he bullies people who know less than him and collapses completely when debating people who know more. His constant use of the Cosmological and Teleological arguments after they have been so thoroughly and utterly debunked is evidence of his dishonesty. I have never seen him give any explanation as to how he connects the creator god of his above arguments with the dysfunctional god of the Bible. I have read Cold Case and again was not impressed, he spends the first chapter telling Atheists that they should not state that there is no supernatural without proving it and then spends the rest of the book assuming that there is supernatural without proving it. His methodology is very poor and if he returned to real detective work using his methods in the book he would be sacked immediately. All his conclusions are predicated on his assertion that the words of the Bile are true, so he was just using the book to prove the book. As you so succinctly said, no resurrection means no Christianity, so lets look at the facts. The Gospel of Mark was written by a Greek speaking scholar (who's name was not Mark) some thirty years after the 'alleged' events in what is now Lebanon and he had clearly never been to Judea and met anyone directly connected to the events he was writing about. He ended his writings with Jesus on the cross, the remaining verses about the resurrection were added latter by someone else. This was followed by 'Mathew' some ten to fifteen years later who wrote in Greek from what is now Syria and basically took what 'Mark' had written and embellished it and then onto Luke who concocted ever more outlandish nonsense. The resurrection story just kept expanding and plagiarised pre Christian religions and myths that the authors would have been well versed in. Why you would give any credibility to these contradictory nonsensical self interested fictions is something I find difficult to understand. There are ZERO contemporary historical references to Jesus or any of the allegedly amazing things that he did. Don't you find that odd? Your assertion that the textual transmission of the Bible gives it credibility is only predicated on your initial assumption that the first copy was not fiction. What method did you use to verify that the long lost original of 'Mark' was not total fiction. Also the Book of Mormon and the Quran can be shown to have survived in their original forms. Does that make 'them' true?
I have studied hundreds of NDE's and I have never heard the light beings or "God" ask the person about their beliefs. It was only about love. How we treat each other is what matters...thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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I could understand her better if she had been drinking decaf
I mean, you’re not wrong. 💁🏼♀️ 🐿️
YOU DON'T FEEL THE GIRL'S PAIN???? SHE IS DAMAGED.................
@Babygirl💓 👏🏼
@@mchaelnystrom-schut6650 That statement is definitely telling of you and your mindset.
@@jaden_lindner Souls, why on earth are you all seeking CHRIST among the dead? And the only road (narrow road) to heaven amongst the religions?
And why you all so quick to go and worship in carnal/religious ways?
Is CHRIST not risen? Is not a single soul have gotten saved?
And those mans whom GOD took into heaven, and they did not taste death - you all clam they be in their graves?
GOD is not SPIRIT who calls us all to worship HIM IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH?
Is not GOD calling us to come out from BABYLON, what we keep seeking CHRISTIANITY in the Babylon?
Just in case i say, 1st testament is our past from which to learn, it is no longer the way to live. As we now live under 2nd testament and the future which we too will or shall see is written into the book of REVELATION.
1st testament = past, yesterday.
2nd testament = present, TODAY.
The most important thing is to KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS on which our faith is build on. Without keeping the 10 commandments, there be no soul, who is Christian with living faith. We all be then lukewarms with dead faith and still into hellfire we shall go. We complain that nobody learns from the past, then why don´t we learn from the past? What's stopping us from opening the bible and start learning from the past? Pride stop us. Pride and the illusion, a lie which says” we're already educated”.
Christians used to tell me "You can have a personal relationship with God". Great! But I found out that if my personal relationship wasn't the same as theirs I was going to hell! How personal is that??💖
GO to him yourself.
@@Fernando-qs7bl I do.
Jesus says "No one comes to the Father except by Me". He isn't going to change who He is to adapt to your idea of who our Creator is, but if you are born again you will know the same Jesus that other believers know because there is only one true Jesus and He is in the bible, so read that if you want to know Him.
@@senderoestrecho9142 I'm not so much interested in human derived "ideas" about my Creator; but rather in getting to know him experientially. Have you noticed how the "true" believers constantly fight with each other over ideas?
@@senderoestrecho9142 lmao give me a break
I felt the most "free will" when I left religion. Like you said, the relationship with God doesn't feel genuine when its motivated by fear. Doesn't seem fair.
ok lets say " HELL " doesn't exist ... then what happens to murders , rapists , thieves ? do they go unpunished ?
@@jacktrevis5400 I'm just as curious. I hate that we don't know for sure what actually happens to these type of people when they die. If said "hell" does actually exists, what are the rules really? People love to say that according to the bible, no sin is greater than the other. So does that mean those who tell lies and such are on the same level of people who murder, rape, thief? I will never get that. I wish I had the answers.
@@jacktrevis5400 they still get punished. It doesn't follow that eternal damnation is needed. It's not from the bible it's a mistranslation
I agree
It was never about what we feel or our feelings, it was about God.
The upside of religion: having a community to belong to. The downside: everything else.
So true!
Should have typed “the downsides: yes” but that works well too
@@allisonrussell5160 I was just going to type "so true."
@@lynnjacobs9885 ☺
I didn’t like the community
I’m not a Christian anymore either and I also left religion but I still believe in God.
Fair
I do not affliate my self to various denominations, non denomination and I do not affliate myself to being Christian, atheist and abnostic beliefs.
I consider myself as being spiritual. I believe there is a God and a Trinity. God is loving. He's not a Hitler type of God like most of theses cult like churches out there.
I am not currently in church. I left due to extreme hypocrisy and other reasons.
I do not need a church in order to be spiritual, I can contact another spiritual friend whose like minded and pray and fellowship. It says in the Bible: Whenever two or three are gathered in his name, he is there.
One step at the time
@@bonniejohnson760nope wrong
@@thedude9014 Revolt against YHWH
I feel so much better after I decided that I didn’t want anything to do with religion. I went along with it for many years because that’s what was expected, but now I can be honest with myself and not feel like a phony.
Religion is not what is important here hun Having a relationship and bond with Jesus is what is! Talk to him forget going to church or what have you just pray hood your faith and never turn your back on God!
@@KY.M19 I found many mistakes in the Bible how bout that?
@@unknownuser4879 For year's I dressed properly, I wanted to look so perfect. I would read bible & act so perfect. Now I'm starting to leave religion. It's so controlling and the bible contradicts itself way to much.
@@horsegirl4403 I've left it and I feel free❤️
@@unknownuser4879 u were never a saved Christian anyways.u were a decieved man following religion
I left it too somewhat recently, and it's the best feeling ever. I have never been so happy in my entire life. I am finally able to say that I love myself, which I have never been able to do at a Christian
We all have sinful natures but just remember that Christ loves us and died to save us from bad judgement. If you accept and follow him it will apply to you.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@jameswittmann1608 nope, there’s this thing called Dopamine that our brains releases when we’re happy
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 No one died for me you freak! Stop forcing your beliefs onto others!
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
You sound like a true follower of Jesus far more than those that call themselves "Christian". I went through the same type of thing. I'm now in my 60s and I feel better also. I stopped calling myself a "Christian" and call myself a follwer of Jesus and Buddha. I'm not a label - I grow as mys spirit grows - wherever that grows. One thing struck me that you said, because I had the same exact thought. I did not want to be good because of fear. I wanted to be good for goodness sake. Seemed to me that being good because you will be punished was the wrong way to be good - not authentic - just a pretend. Thanks for sharing your story. I really appreciate your honesty.
Peace Love you explained everything I believe ,well said!
How can you believe in Jesus and then believe in Bhudda??????
@@Made4more1432 yes, he was, but in the bible it says to not worship any other Gods, but me. Hmmmmm? So what are you trying to prove?
@Glady Man yes I do believe that a lot of churches speak lies, but not all churches preach a lie. It merely depends on the church, but thats when discernment is crucial to know the truth. God never sets up his children to fail. He is a loving God.
I have an issue with the bible. There are books written by people an example, mathew and people mentioned such as Moses, Isaac etc. I understand they were born from their fore fathers an mothers.My question is, how am I related to them.
Glad you found your way. You're not alone. I left my faith back in 2014, and I'm really happy I did. :)
Not surprising we are living in the last days
Another son of perdition
@JustaUser Wrong!
If you willing to have an open mind conversation we can do it if you are curious to understand why I believe in God is that sound fair?
@JustaUser by the way I'm NOT muslim! You kidding me?
I want to leave so bad but im extremely scared of my parents im only 16 and christianity makes me really unhappy but im extremely scared of my parents and what they will do if i tell them. They are like obsessed with god all of of this stuff and they say and do so many hurtul and do harmful things to me and other people but use religon as an excuse and im tired of feeling like im a bad person for not believing or doing this or that i just want to leave
@@T0xiccO definitely be careful coming out if you still live with your parents and are depending on them for a place to stay and stuff. I made a whole video about coming out as an atheist, specifically about common mistakes to avoid, that I think you'll find useful.
ruclips.net/video/ZPPDb9IIkHU/видео.html
None of it was ever right. It was always one huge contradiction for me, and I had enough. No more double life.
Very interesting. Was it a not feeling right, kind of intuitive thing?
@@Outoftheboxhomeorganizing That's the first thing that one does, is get and be brutally honest with themselves. This is what my whole channel is based upon, is getting rid of all of these old stinking concepts, and religions, and ideals, and standards, etc... because it is nothing but extra baggage anyway. I am getting back to freedom, and this is what The SBN Lifestyle represents, and why I am showing it to people...This is what we have been running from our whole lives, is the Joy of just being, who we we're always intended to be, our free and natural selves...Yes, we will have bad days, and have stupid thoughts come to our mind, but we do not need anymore of that stuff in our already short lives, now do we?
It seemed your double life was considering God but then considering the world. Its impossible to have both options on the table. By being apart of this world, you were not entirely christian or focused on it. We cannot get anything from God and please him, by being apart of this world. Its all or nothing.
@@Outoftheboxhomeorganizing yeah, I feel ya...like your inner world and the outer worlds conflict. The real natural world demands from you and your conscience is stronger and demands that the world treat you with respect and dignity. It is strange. There is no harmony or balance of inner self and outer self.
@@natanunorthodox "the Joy of just being, who we we're always intended to be, our free and natural selves."
So how did you become to be..naturally? What gave us all this? How did we get the universe that eventually led to "our free and natural selves."?
Show that you know the difference between sound thoughts and not. Show that you looked at this logically by going with evidence. it will be easy for you with all the claims you made.
Hi Jaden, thank you for sharing your story. I was born as a cradle Catholic and went to Sunday school up to the 5th grade. Then I had Protestant beliefs up to age 25, went New Age for about 3 to 4 years and was directed back to the Catholic Church. What directed me back to God, was an adoration chapel and experiencing the presence of God through the Holy Eucharist located in the monstrance. Today I am a Catholic and want to tell everyone that there is a God and he is very real. There are a lot of people who have questions about God and want to direct everyone to the Catechism of the Catholic Church because there are answers that have been around for centuries. I hope you have an experience with the Lord. God bless.
Thank you. I stopped being christian a few days ago. Sometimes I feel really scared, but when that passes the sense of freedom is unbelievable. Much love to you, I know it's hard at the beginning.
Yeah man, it gets scary. Religious belief kinda makes handling life easier. Sometimes I find myself wishing I could somehow forgot what I've learned and dumb back to believing, so I could have an effective scapegoat.
Bruh u should check out Islam we don’t blind in blind faith it’s pure logical faith out of all religion ppl r leave Christianity n Islam is da fastest growing religion they even said in bbc too and in my humble thought. And we do believe in Jesus Christ peace be upon him we can’t be Muslim if we don’t believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus never preach Christianity nor he called himself Christian n church was around b4 Jesus was even born 330yrs bb4 he born n We hav a hole chapter named after Mary in da holy Quran u should check it out n we believe the bible is corrupted dats why God send another prophet to tell the truth to ppl n tell who Jesus Christ peace be upon him is. Peace and blessings of God be upon you 😊
@@A1.4U Can you please tell me what method you used to prove to yourself that the your god is real.
No quoting from the Quran as anyone from any religion can simply say "it is true because my old book says it is true" do you have any outside evidence to prove that you are right and the other religions are wrong? Or do you just believe because you were told to believe when you were a child?
Do you know that the book 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins that explains why religion is nonsense has been downloaded over 10 million times in it's free Arabic translation.
There are tens if not hundreds of millions of Ex Muslims around the world but many are afraid to speak out because your 'religion of peace' is so brutal and violent to anyone who disagrees with them.
sula S bruh u just throwing nonsense ignorance comments out of no where hav u ever read da Quran. In English they say little known is dangerous dats wa u doin now😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️ Quran is a book full of miracles free from contradiction wa ever sciences r finding right now it’s already mentioned in da holy Quran 1500yrs ago how can a man lives in da middle of desert Illiterate man that lived in 7th century and telescope wasn’t even invented at da time Quran talks bout Big Bang theory universe expanding every living thing made out of water lists goes on. 😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️ bruh we don’t follow a blind faith like Christianity or Hinduism Buddhism Sikhism all da other religion. And remember Islam is da fastest growing religion in the world right come back to the God of Jesus Abraham Solomon David mosses Muhammad peace be upon them all ☝🏾
@@A1.4U Firstly what you say about the Quran is just simply not true you are just being a parrot and repeating the nonsense of your lying teachers. If you are honest and read the book yourself you will find out that none of those things you claim are true.
Watch this and stop being ignorant. ruclips.net/video/6RTehKGfdCU/видео.html
You did not answer the question. First you have to prove the book is true before you can quote from it. It is very simple, why cant you understand that?
Do you have any evidence from outside the book to prove that the book is true?
It is not the fastest growing religion, again you are just repeating what your dishonest teachers are telling you. Stop being a sheep and learn this stuff for yourself. You have been lied to ALL your life and now you are passing on those lies to others.
"When an honest man is shown to be wrong he can either stop being wrong or stop being honest"
I was an atheist until now. No one converted me, no one forced their beliefs on me.. i just read the gospel and I just could not resist the pull I felt towards Jesus. No one can deny, that there is something so intriguing, so compelling about Jesus and that is what I think makes Christianity so exclusive.
The whole bible is not only truth, it is THE most incredible story! It can't be beaten. I have challenged tens of thousands to get around it and none of them can. The deeper you look, the purer it gets. I've read umpteen amounts of what the naysayers have had to say about the bible and they are easily crushed. God does not want blind faith, He has the evidence, that's why He asks us to prove things, to study. A lie falls apart but truth stands firm.
If ever you get into doubt feel free to contact me. Satan is always trying to sow his thorns. So grateful you saw the light. God bless.
*"Blessed are they who have not seen, but yet still believe" - Jesus Christ*
@Dharma Defender well show you got past the first verse before acting as if you know so much about the rest of the bible. How did we get creation without God? Jesus said God created. Show that you know something.
@Dharma Defender you’re silly. even atheist scholars agree that Jesus was a real person. They simply disagree about his deity.
The Bible itself does the very things Darren does in this video below, our own brain does these things as well
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I definitely agree about the “never being good enough” thing. My parents only gave me three compliments in my life-all regarding just being a “good Christian.” Sad.
our goodness is not exemplified by how well you fit the mold. That is moral and emotional and relational slavery. Religion was nothing Jesus Christ taught. He taught freedom. So many don't realize this. It is terrifying.
@@shelbyguizar9036 Yesss. That's why Jesus said that narrow is the way that leads to life and only few will find it and broad is the way to destruction. People leave christianity because of people not because of Jesus.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@rosemariemanton4284 In the last days, there will be a great, falling away. This is the last days and listen to these people!
@@rosemariemanton4284 you are misinformed. The main reason the people leave Christianity is when they study their bible thoroughly. Most Christians do not know their book or its history, or its almost inumerous contradictions, and thats why they still believe.
Christian people keep saying that the lord is coming, they’ve been saying that for years and still nothing happens still didn’t show. That’s why I’m realizing the truth.
I left the church for 16 years, and I felt free. My daughter wanted to go to church when she was younger, so I went back. I had so much anxiety going, and having all these rules you should follow. I know that the church doesn't teach everything properly according to scripture. Since COVID happened, we haven't been to church, and I feel so much better again. I am still spiritual.
@Jennifer I use to feel like that going to the mosque but I'm glad I left religion alone.
ruclips.net/video/M-2rffXnBdM/видео.html
I stopped being a Christian a while ago. I was a Christian for 3 years and became really judgemental and told people they were wrong because the Bible said certain stuff. It was bad. When I first became a Christian I felt free because I felt like Jesus had saved me and that I'd become spiritually reborn all that sort of thing but then I the whole idea of hell started to put me off, and the weird stories in the Bible about God killing people and then I got caught up in people saying certain things were wrong and the narrow mindedness and the whole idea of hell and LGBTQ people being a sin and every other belief is wrong Christianity is the truth everything else is demonic I just thought it was so wrong and I had to break away from it. There was a doctrine in my church that you could lose your salvation and that used to terrify me. I still believe in God but apart from the doctrine in the Bible now. I am into tarot, crystals and reiki now.
Same
It seems the devil exposed your heart to options. Options are not good when it comes to faith because they all say different things and contradict each other. We have to stop thinking about what we want and think about what God wants. Heaven is not given, its earned through passion for Christ and, The Spirit and, The Father. Its a pearl that requires sacrifice and constant denial.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 amen brother❤️
Jesus is the truth, the way and the life.. he is the light of the world.. only in him we have eternal life..
I hope that people will turn back to God before the Great Judgement Day.
One of the fundamental things Jesus taught was that his followers should not go around judging people. Judgementalism and Christianity are incompatible. Sounds like you went to the wrong church. When you become a Christian you are saved, free of condemnation and spiritually reborn. Nothing can take that away from you unless you choose to discard it. Stick with it and don't settle for substitutes. Tarot is deceitful and crystals are powerless. Don't trust them.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
Challenge any cleric, any '' true believer '' with these two words, '' prove it '', and all you'll ever get is apologetics, assumptions, faith, belief and emotional appeal ( mainly fear )... which is all I ever needed to drop my religion.
Prove love (seriously)
Prove wind ( by scientific method)
@@yeshuaisisaiah9650 Love is proven by its emotion, its feeling, its expression... wind, well, ya can just watch, observe a hurricane ? Nice try, religious one.
If Jesus was not real, Then it would mean no more to you than the funny papers..! But you question, you complain, you put questions off on people you refuse to listen too..! You were lost before you before you got started. Either give up questioning or learn to live with your Fears..! Because that's all you have now...
@@faithhope7777 I question because of the interest I have in psychology ( something I'm sure you couldn't care less about ). It's not '' complaining '' or '' fears '' it's that I love to get into people's heads to find out why they believe what they do -- ya know, education... but you are correct on one count, jesus as '' man\ god savior '' means no more to me than the funny papers.
@@jerrylanglois7892 ( something I'm sure you couldn't care less about ) But I do, I took psychology 101 in college, But I only found peoples heads to be satan play ground..! So I guess that is where you live... (means no more to me than the funny papers.) So that means your just wasting your time, unless you thank your life is worth no more than a funny paper..! I hope you all the best...
Life's a journey. There are ups, there are downs. We must always be open to take new data and adjust our behavior based on the new data.
I can understand others but Jehovah's witnesses are worse. I watched my daughter suffering from being abused by her husband, but according to their belief, she is not supposed to leave her abusive husband and only the elders must intervene! Only later I read the book "Snubbed" I realized that Religion is the greatest prison on earth.
I hope she wakes up and take her life back and leave
Did you give her any advice
@@SadD3adGirl yes they are divorced now. Thank you so much for support
@@jaden_lindner thank yo so much Jaden, she is fine now and attending therapy. They got divorced and she was banished from the fellowship of the religion and she is happy.
Nomvula Nxumalo my grandma has been married to an old man. He’s not right in the mind. He’s even threatened my brother before bc my brother insisted he’ll do him a favor that my grandmas husband was trying to do like wtf?? He told my brother “I have somebody for you” and my family knows what else is on with my grandmas marriage because they all fucking gossip. I don’t understand
Wow this was so relatable. I’m a pastor’s kid and I share a lot of your same thoughts and questions. It’s interesting how our perspective changes as we grow up and expand our world past our church and upbringing....what are your beliefs, if any, now? Do they align with any other religion?
What a shame, it goes to show that just because you are a pastors kid doesnt mean a thing. Faith is individual, your dad cannot use faith for you, he can only bring influence.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 which part is a shame?
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
It's painful to see so many Christians being influenced by the hypocrisy of other Christians not living the life. Please, many are leading double lives, they're not necessarily saved if they think they are..People are confused about this issue bc many believe once saved always saved..Please, Jesus Christ is real, heaven and hell really do exist in the spirit world. Sin is real, it is defiling. Even if we look at the world and people, it erodes and causes so much on a mass scale and individual. Demons are real and they're prominent in society. Those in fame work with dark powers and know it is real, it is hidden from the world.
Please, Jesus Christ is very real and everyone will know this. Don't fall for the traps, demons insert thoughts in your mind to take you away from the faith. They literally come up with a customized plan for each human so people don't really ever know God. Please cry out and seek while there's still time, everyone will know this is true for certain just moments after they pass, but it is too late if people die in their sin. Sin cannot be allowed in heaven, it would corrupt it and no longer be heaven.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
Hi Jaden! Thank you so much for sharing your story with us. You are very brave and I’m glad you are so open minded. It is really tough to leave behind a faith that was so influential in your life. I left Christianity over a year ago and feel so free to think and believe what feels right. Good luck on your journey!
Because of my de-conversion and the strain it placed on my life, I began the journey to become a licensed professional counselor. Which led me to the desire to start a RUclips channel specifically for people to tell their stories and to find a place of healing and community. So much good can arise from putting aside religious beliefs.
You stopped believing in what God wants and started to look out for number one. I preach that you can have both. The have faith is to believe in yourself and God and one cannot exist without the other.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
I've come to realize I am not religious but definitely spiritual, to me most beleifs in god or something higher are ultimately the same. I find similarities all the time across the board.
Just like you i was raised none denominational evangelical. I've always always struggled with the idea of Hell. In my family the first question asked if someone died was "were they saved?!" If not my dad would say they were burning in hell. It really scared me and disgusted me that he would say that. I've lived on and off apart of the church as an adult, always searching for the perfect fit, never finding it but that fear kept me in my beleif of the bible. Also fear of disappointing my parents, especially my mom.
Like you, i cannot follow a belief system based in fear. I've always been fascinated and drawn to the occult as well. I think my study of astrology and finding some happiness and fulfillment has helped me overcome some of my fear
I recently told my mom that i don't believe in hell and I'm definitely more of a universalist then evangelical Christian. She is barely speaking to me, considers me so lost.
This has been very hard for me because it has changed the way she sees me and her love for me is all dependant on this fear she has for my soul Which is so overwhelming her she cannot love me the same. I of course love my mom. It's getting to me, i try hard to stay positive but there's this deep sadness there.
Did you find it hard to be open with your family?
10 REASONS WHY I LEFT CHRISTIANITY
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Well do try to read bhagvad geeta.
Hi Montana, thanks for sharing. I still am a ‘Christian’ - a Messianic believer to be exact. I reviled the doctrine of hell, and a big part for me of accepting Christ/Messiah, was when I came to believe that the mainline understanding of hell is inaccurate; in that it is not a eternal place of punishment. That mis-understanding may have come in via pagan religions. I believe the Seventh-day Adventists have a good grasp of the true understanding of ‘hell’. Blessings
Akanksha Joshi and the Tao de Ching!
You shouldnt find it hard, my family gladly criticises my faith, even my Nan who goes to church almost everyday, and prays for the family and shes a deacon. I have been through things and seen things i never thought in a million years i would see. Your deep sadness is because you want to be accepted as you are. Give it time you will be accepted and keep praying to Jesus at least.
when I read all the slavery things and no mention of it being bad then I started to study the bible in a different way I just quit being a Christian a few days ago also
Every Medieval cultures had slaves.From America to the Australia had it. In the bible,basically the slaves are used for household work, of course they are given food and basic rights. God never told ill treat slaves.
Cut to the present, we r bound by the govt or the monarch by the rules. We dont have free will whatever we want, is nt kind of slavery.
God's concept and Bible's focus is on Jesus and to save the world from sin . John 3:16- For God so loved the world, he gave his only Son so that whoever believes in him would have eternal life.
@Steve Not on your life gullible person that you are.
@Steve See You next Sunday then Punk
jibo.k. Varghese Where I come from on this situation is definitely an opposing side but I’d like to say it. From what I was taught when I was going to church, doing bible study etc... was that god was all good, all knowing and all powerful. While yes slavery was normal back then, we now know it’s wrong. The thing that really gets me is why, If god is once again all good, powerful and knowing, did he let slavery continue on? If god knows it’s wrong why wouldn’t he put a stop to it? I know you claim that the slaves were treated as people but they sure weren’t free. In my eyes, there is absolutely no justification for slavery, people are taken from all they’ve ever known, family, friends, they’re homes. Whether they were treated with decency is irrelevant because they weren’t free to leave, they didn’t choose that life. Me personally, if I was robbed of everything I ever knew and loved, even if I was given food and a place to sleep and treated decently enough, I would one: never be able to forgive the people that took me and two: would never be able to enjoy a life like that. Just because they weren’t treated like dirt doesn’t mean it was right, they weren’t free. I don’t want to fight, I genuinely want to hear you out on this as I do not understand completely where you are coming from.
@@TheGhostInYourAttic yes if you read exodus 21 slavery IS always wrong not just back then and I didn't claim that the slaves were treated as equal and I am glad that you have better morals than your god by the way my belief is there are no gods the bible is fiction that is why it is not in the History section of the Library
If you are living as a good and honest person, you will find so much peace and even happiness in your life. And the feelings of freedom are amazing! Enjoy your life, Jaden. Think for yourself. Your new beliefs will allow you to grow as a person without fear in your life. Best wishes for you and your family.
People should not be coming to God out of fear but out of love and respect. No wonder why people are leaving. I blame the messengers. Spirituality is a beautiful thing with so much potential. Only spiritual people IN JESUS are perfect, or at least can be.
Thanks for sharing
Personally, I remember on single moment that tipped me away from “religion”
I was explaining to a friend that I did not believe that little Indian children who died without Jesus would have to go to hell
Then I carelessly asked if that meant that I also was destined for hell?
I was shocked when my “friend” confirmed that indeed I WAS going to hell
It is one thing for a strangers to tell you to go to hell
It is another to have a friend seriously tell you that you ARE going to hell
At that moment I started to think that “if this is what religion is about, I am not interested”
Hey, I understand where you are coming from. Most Christian churches love to force fear down our throats, but most of them don’t know that fear is from the devil not from God, when the Bible talks about having a fear for God it clearly means to love him (since fear isn’t from God). 1 John 4:18
Darvin Victor.....and how do you know what 'most' churches do, and teach. You cant even probably list all the churches in your state, never mind making silly claims ignorantly.
@@ijaimambula1735 hows he right?
You're obvs an idiot on top of being clueless and lost by the sound of it
@@ijaimambula1735 find Christs salvation, before it's too late for you.
The love is the most important thing but we should not neglect fear and hope, balance it
And also bible is corrupted and has many contradictions
Pls watch the channel One Message Foundation , it has many inter faith talks and discussions
Pls do
Very very interesting
@@MRFITTA You put on a perfect display of her point. All the evidence needed. Most people in the church are nothing like Christ. You are an example of that.
I’ve never had so many unfiltered open dialogue with people since I recently started my deconstruction journey. Thank you for your story. I can relate.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
Thank so much for sharing!
So much recognition....
I recently left church after being a born again Christian for 15 years.
It's a long story, but more or less the same story as yours.
I definitely feel free now... 💜❤
Greetings from the Netherlands
But are you free. Perhaps to do whatever you want but is that a good thing, to do what you want. Stealing is not good, but lusting after someone is also not good, its not good because you develop cravings for something you cannot have either because the person is taken or because they might not be interested in you.
how are you doing
@Lance Rothman so it’s ok to be married and continue lusting over other people? No just because it comes natural doesn’t make it right.
My experience is very similar to yours. I now believe questions are always good. If anyone tries to suggest to me that I shouldn’t ask questions or explore other ideas - about anything (that doesn’t advocate harming anyone) - I now believe that is a bad sign. I decided that if I ever get confused, love and kindness are always the most important things - and are sufficient guides, in themselves. I don’t think you can go wrong if love is the priority, and that necessarily includes treating others the way you would like to be treated. An example of one change in my thinking: in regard to homosexuality, I was always taught to hate the sin but love the sinner, and that that attitude was a loving one (and I think there also was an undercurrent of belief that that attitude was generous of us). It is so common-sense clear to me now that that attitude was so insulting and condescending - just gross - so unkind. And completely none of my business to be making judgements on a personal choice that is harmful to no one. Today, it’s mortifying to me that I believed and helped propagate that idea into the world, even in a small degree.
That is great , how should one treat them? I mean what would be the best way to show them that they are equal in your eyes? Just curious.
LaMesa Cole Well, just like I would treat heterosexual people. That would include wishing them well in marriages or partnerships or having children. Being ok with public affection with one another to the same degree as I am with heterosexuals’ actions. Including their significant others in get-togethers. Abstain from thinking or suggesting they adhere to any particular dogma. But in addition, I now use my voice and vote to try to influence equal protections under the law and in society, since I think there is still progress that needs to be made.
But the bible teaches that we should love others as ourselves. Its one of the foundations of Christianity. Its okay to have questions, but why do not look for those answers and get a general consensus on it. Get many opinions on a particular subject before you decide on what to do.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 dude you sound brainwashed, do you reply to every comment on here? You realize if the church made all this up, then you would. Be. A. Brainwashed, manipulated fool. Church wants power, can’t have power without creating stories to instill fear in the people you want to control.
As a Christian all I can say is you’re awesome, brave and you have a kind and gentle heart (your voice tell me that). And just know that what you did in this video takes guts. The God that you learned, studied, and worshiped is real and even though you left the church, he won’t leave you. He never let’s go.
Don't talk mixed up nonsense. You are giving false hope.
@@smeatonlighthouse4384 how so? She is showing love and not hate. Isnt that what Jesus portrayed when he walked the earth?
But if there is a God who never let's go, shouldn't people _notice_ such a thing? It's one thing to say emotional stuff like 'God never let's you go!' and actually demonstrating that this is the case.
@@annmcfarland7505 🤦🏾♂️ according to the Bible not historical fact
Please prove this god. This is how religion stays. Unchecked , unfounded claims and assertions one after another
Proud of you. I also deconverted. You have a support system out there. Sending love.
recommended videos are jesusneverexisted.com and evilbible.com to wake up people from the lies of the myth the so called jesus. a question for a christian would you sell your daughter as a sex slave, it is a teaching of your false god jehova. ( exodus 21: 7) says. and why women in church does not obey their stupid god jehova who treates women like garbage, sayin that they should not learn and should be shut up, this is an attack toward women, many women in churches never jave read this bullshit and nonsense of the gospel of the myth called jesus. IT SAYS 1 CORINTHIANS 14: 34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. bible is a bullshit against women and humanity. women wake up and never let a jewish god to humiliate you.!
Pretzel Boggins hi pretzel,that jewish book called bibles is wrong from beginning to the end. Imagine that jewish god ordering human sacrifices and for this false god of the bible is amazing it smell good Read ephesians 5:2 this jewish god is a demon.he loves human sacrifices this is immoral. Besides it is funny people worshipping a jew called jesus! And a jewish god of the middle east when they are non jews. I said yesteday to a friend you criticise lgbt and gays... but you want to spend with a man forever called jesus.... this sounds gay to me!!!😁😁😁😁😁😁😆😆😆😆
Carlos Orozco i was a believer for 10 years but when i did my research, i quickly came to realization that there wasn’t much proof for his resurrection. And all the crap from the bible as you mentioned: slavery, immoral stuff God commanded/did started to wake me up to the possibility that Bible wasn’t inspired by god rather, was invented by superstitious primitive men. Then I came to find out that, bible we read now were compiled by Catholic church ( which protestants think they’re heretics; yet, believes in bible that these heretics compiled). Catholic church literally cherry picked which gospels were going to be canonized and which ones were going to be discarded. To make things worse, nobody really knows who authored the new testaments.
Live by gods word not your own way Gods judgment will fall hard on those who denies God
@@hime9513 WHAT GOD??? THERE ARE MILLIONS AROUDN THE WORLD AND ALL RELIGIONS SAYS ... GOD SAYS !!! RESURRECTION THE BIGGEST MYTHOLOGY! jesusneverexisted.com and evilbible.com SHOWS THE LIES OF JESUS AND THE BIBLE THE JEWISH BOOK
I also freed myself from religion. Thank you for sharing your story.
Religion has values that hold people down. Jesus Christ removes burdens because He instructs the best way to live life and please God. To live for Christ is to deny our will for Him, and in turn he will help us in our lives.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 I'm really sorry if this is offensive but I used to be Christian but living your entire life reading a book written thousands of years ago and trying to live up to the standards of God and following his rules in order to reach a eternal paradise never experiencing anything in life is a very unhealthy and very sad way to live this is only my opinion im sorry if this is upsetting
It’s not religion
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 There is no evidence for your God. Biggest Problem of Christianity - It’s founded on a baselessly weak compilation of bronze age fables that is not supported by anything anywhere. 0 evidence for Exodus (0 evidence for a historical Moses), 0 evidence for Noah’s flood, Multiple candidates for Sodom and Gomorrah (Archeologists have not been able to come to a consensus regarding its actual location) (None of the candidate locations match up perfectly with the biblical timeline and other crucial details concerning Sodom and Gomorrah)
Anonymous authors of the gospels. None of the original manuscripts of any of the four gospels exist. The four gospels were written by those who were not eyewitnesses decades after the alleged events. We don't have the original manuscripts of any of the four gospels. The earliest complete new testament manuscript is 'Codex Sinaiticus' from mid 4th century. Are you kidding me? So, fucking late. The earliest of the manuscripts we have are fragments without the titles. We don't even know who wrote most of the New Testament. Much of the New Testament seem to be blatant forgeries. No evidence of earth coming into existence as a result of an incantation spell (Earth formed naturally as a gradual gravitational concretion 4.6 billion years ago). No evidence for glorious creation. Adam and Eve didn’t exist. Evolution is a fact. There is overwhelming evidence for evolution from every relevant field of study like paleontology, anthropology, embryology, homology, molecular biology etc. That is why evolution is hailed as the backbone of modern biology and creation is literally a refuted, discarded and forgotten fairy tale that has been collecting dust for 161 years. Evolution disproves creation. We share a common ancestor with the great apes that lived 7 million years ago and chimpanzee being our closest living relative. (Genetically 97-98 percentage similar to us) (Evolution undermines the creative genius of God even if he had been superintendenting evolution as some theistic evolutionists argue. The only purpose of evolution is adapting and surviving by adjusting and compromising). Life as we know it most likely didn't require a God to come into existence. As a result of our ever improving understanding of abiogenesis, we are closer than ever before at finding out how the first self-replicating RNA molecules formed from non living matter. Our universe didn't come into existence out of nothing. Our space-time started expanding 13.8 billion years ago from a hot and dense singularity. Matter and energy existed before that. If something has to be eternal it could be the energy. That’s all the big bang theory accounts for. It doesn’t suggest the universe came from nothing. There is no evidence of anything before the singularity. The big bang was also not an explosion (as typically distorted by apologetic charlatans) but an expansion.
Also, the earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago. What took God so long, why didn’t he create earth first? What was he doing for 9.3 billion years in between the universe’s expansion and earth’s formation? Too many problems for the theistic worldview. Wake up. Get over your delusions. Ignorance and incredulity is no longer an excuse. Can’t believe there are still people who believe in these bronze age fables by ignorant, superstitious and primitive savages and regard it as absolute truth despite all evidences to the contrary. There is simply no evidence for any of the fables in the Bible. Stop wasting your life believing in those impossible absurdities.
Nothing Fails Like Bible History
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Historical Errors in the Bible and Qur'an
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Noah's flood debunked
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The P R A T T List
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Jesus's wasn't Jesus
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Design disasters of the Human Body
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How to stop believing in God / being a Christian
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The Evidence for Evolution
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Ok you freeed yourself from religion right cool, but did you ever have a relationship with Jesus? Ask yourself
I think you are a very well balanced and decent human being, and that's something we need more of in the world
Everyone would say they are, but as the bible says we are inherently sinful. The heart is deceitful beyond measure and a "good person" follows it. Its why good people suffer and also why marriages do not last long, its also why people are self indulgent. Etc.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
I hope I get there. I'm trying but scared. I was raised in a strict Pentacostal church, then switched to Baptist as a young adult. I had too many questions and would immediately get shut down or ridiculed or lectured into forcing myself to believe again. I went to church until a few years ago. Just like you, constantly fear driven. What if... But I couldn't silence my unanswered questions and I don't want to live in fear.
The fear embedded in me almost feels like psychological abuse. A conditioning. Even mind control at points. It was "Do this OR else..." There was no choice. I felt so judged for seeking answers and not just accepting what was written in the Bible or being lectured to me. I'm terrified of Hell, as I was raised to be. I am terrified of "going against" church or even simply disconnecting. I can't tell my family I'm "losing my religion" (for lack of a better phrase) and I'm 35 years old, but my parents/family would still freak. It IS very much a "we vs they" mob mentality, and it makes me sad. I've seen too many Christians first-hand be so hypocritical on what they say they believe versus what they do in their daily lives and how they treat and judge people. The fear and the pressure made me constantly feel nauseated. I felt obligated. I felt I wasn't allowed to question the Bible and what was wrong in it, and I felt mentally sick to question- like even having thoughts of questioning it would send me straight to hell. I questioned how the church picks and chooses what to use in the Bible and what to ignore. (Like the 1st half completely, the Old Testament.) And even things in the New. Too much wrong and mistreatment and contradictions for me to simply accept.
I'm stuck between disbelief in Christianity, having a possible belief in a higher power, the in between, and the absence...like I'm in a dryer flipping around. But I have questions and I cannot NOT seek answers. I've been doing research on my feelings seriously for over 2 years but have questioned my faith since I was a pre-teen.
I just want to say THANK YOU for your story and to everyone who sees my comment and UNDERSTANDS. People like you guys have not judged me. You have shown me more empathy and compassion than most christians. It's comforting to know I am not alone, and many others have been where I am.
So, my story: I am STILL searching and slowly rediscovering myself and reducing what I know as fact against what I know from conditioning. I still have my weak moments... like when things go very wrong, or my friend (who just passed) was in a coma in ICU, my gut reaction was to beg and pray...and even as I did so, I found myself questioning the importance. Was it to make me feel better? Was it training? And most importantly, whether I prayed or not, would the outcome be any different? And I realized, even as I felt GUILTY realizing it (bc conditioning/brainwashing is a son of a bitch) that it wouldn't. Forcing myself to acknowledge I didn't have control of these outcomes, whether I prayed or not, was a bit liberating.
Then I thought back to how many other times I prayed for something, a different outcome, throughout my life and didn't get it, and more things began to click. My mind goes on spirals. Just yesterday, at my friend's wake, I kept hearing over and over by everyone around me, "God knows things we cannot" and "God had a plan" and "He's in God's hands now" and so forth, and I wanted to scream. It's become shockingly aware to me that people are set in default mode that when something shitty happens that we don't understand or cannot accept, the answer is seemingly "Just trust in God. It's all up to God."...and it made me feel sick. I have witnessed all my life people using God as a CATCH ALL for things we as humans can't or won't accept; because after all, God is a more pleasant excuse than We Don't Know or Can't Explain Otherwise. I'm ANGRY. The more I research and discover, work to rewire my brain, the more angry I get.
Yes, I'm still "in the closet" with my family and friends because 99.9% of them were raised as I was (strict religion) or led by blind faith and they don't WANT to seek answers beyond this because it's more comforting to them. They don't want to reason. So I'm left in the dark, solely on my own, digging myself out of this mud, and STILL feeling guilty about the what-ifs. What if what I'm doing is wrong? What if I am situating myself into a one-way seat that sends me straight to hell for even considering and questioning? But the problem is, I can't stop. It eats at me when I do. It keeps me awake. It rotates in my mind everytime someone brings up God or religion and my first instinct now is to cringe instead of find comfort. I can't help myself.
The more things don't make sense, the more I realize what was done to me all of my life, the more I need to research. I can't sit idly by and accept things as I'm being told or preached at anymore. I want to know for myself. Does that make me immoral? Does that make me plagued? Does that make me selfish? I don't know. But the fact that I can't stop the way I'm feeling and questions I seek out tells me I may be onto something, and i cannot shake that. And I've tried. I've tried going back to living under a rock, and truthfully, i hate it. I hate that I can't stop questioning or cringing...but I also trust myself in acknowledging that must mean something.
I know I'm babbling, but yes, it is where I'm at - digging through the muck.
If ANYONE has any recommendations for me, be in on RUclips or a book or movie, whatever, please - I'm all ears.
Thank you for caring about me and this update. It means more to me than I can express.
I'm scared I'm wrong,
but I'm also scared I'm right.
I just want to feel free to choose. Actually free. Perhaps if we were allowed to be love-driven versus fear-driven, I'd consider things differently. But we aren't and never will be. 💔
10 REASONS WHY I LEFT CHRISTIANITY
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Angela, that was a very moving account of the mind control that you have been subjected to, you are absolutely right to question everything.
Here is a little thought experiment for you.
Imagine that when you were one week old your parents had put you up for adoption and you had been adopted by a Buddhist couple and had been brought up as a Buddhist. You would now be convinced that when you die you will be reincarnated and that you need good Karma to get a good 'next' life.
You would have absolutely NO concept or fear (terror) of the Christian hell and your mind would be free of all the poisonous nonsense that now plagues you. You would of course believe all the Buddhist nonsense instead. You are simple a product of the broken system of your society.
I hope that you continue to fight the injustice that your terrible religion has dumped on you.
Feel free to ask me any questions you want.
This is an excellent de-conversion video I would recommend you watch at least nine of them.
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Hello, Angela! I just wanted to say how much I admire your courage and strength in not only your struggle, your honesty with your self, but also in your choice to share this struggle. I also want to assure you that you're not alone. Check out a RUclips channel called The Thinking Atheist with Seth Andrews, the man was a former Christian broadcaster who was where you are and has a great many listeners that he tries to help through the process. I recommend him because he does not tell his listeners what to believe but coaches them to be true to themselves.
I also recommend him because...well, I need to explain, I've been an atheist (with maybe a bit of a spiritual bent) all my life but have always shied away from the atheist community. Every time I looked into them, all I found was anger. And I understand that anger, I was that point myself for a number of years. Some of that anger comes from the way atheists are treated, (waves hand), and for some it's the residue of having been the follower of a specific religion - the feelings of betrayal, of having been lied to, coerced, even abused through fear. Seth Andrews caught my attention for being more positive. He's worked through that anger, but he knows it well. I think he might have something to offer you. Many of his listeners similarly have family and community they feel they cannot come out to.
I'm not sure that I do...I have my own ideas, of course, but I'm not you - and that's kinda the point. Be true to your own values. Trust your instincts and your intellect. You're not rejecting a faith just to have someone else mold who you become. Andrews says something along the lines of having explored what he doesn't believe until he realized that he is not defined by what he DOESN'T believe - he has to understand and embrace the values that DO mark who he aspires to be.
I don't have any idea what's out there, whether or not there is such a thing as an afterlife. I'm okay with not knowing. It would be nice to think there's something more if only because "being" is the only state I've ever known, it's hard to imagine not being as it cannot be experienced. It's a non-experience. I don't believe there's a god or gods out there, and that's also not the same question as following the vision offered by any organized religion. For that, it's a matter of conscience: even if I believed, I could not follow a faith that violates my moral values. If I'm to be punished for that, I will accept it with a clear conscience. To do otherwise is repugnant to my very being.
I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Take care, I know you can work your way through all of this. You have NOTHING to feel guilty over. You are who you are. Whatever conclusion you ultimately reach (if any - it's okay not to!), value your self.
@@SimianJack I concur about Seth I would also recommend an ex Christian who's YT channel is 'paulogia' a very intelligent look at why Christianity is baseless.
If you are looking for a bit of humour on the subject then darkmatter2525 and nonstampcollector are excellent at parodying religion .
On your point of 'not being' I always think about what it was like for 'me' in the billions of years before I was born and think that is what it will be like after I die.
abhi reddy I really like yr reply. I’m a Christian and have had enough. We are on a spiritual journey. I was told before I was a Christian that I was a healer and I had spirit guides. I felt at peace then Christians told me it was Satan. It’s so confusing. I feel at peace if I just look at things spiritually and free. Inside me I feel at peace but there’s a strong I can’t go to heaven when I die if I don’t believe in christ. Help.
Finally, a video of someone who shares what I have been feeling about Christianity. How can you love something that's based off of fear? and constantly serving someone your entire life when you should enjoy your life without sacrificing or being in fear to be a "Good Christian" Idk.. I don't want to be trapped in a box. I want to live my life and do good, but not be told I'm going to Hell for not doing something or the other. It's very controlling. I wish others would see that as well, but to each its own.
Yeah, totally get that. So true.
People in Christianity talk about how God is love, and he loves you and his love is unconditional as well, but at the same time they also tell you that you're gonna go to hell for not doing what you're supposed to do.
It's honestly really messed up, and so backwards.
This religion isn't at all what the Christians crack it up to be.
Can i ask you, what do you think a Christian is?
I came to Christ in recent years. Not through fear in the slightest. Your comment is confusing.
@@spirituallysafe It’s really not confusing. I’m not speaking on christian’s who do not move by fear. I’m speaking on those that do, and who feel like their life should be consumed by fear and fulfilling everything but themselves. That’s just my opinion.
@@lifewithyana2924 I don't know any Christian like that. Who are you on about?!
I was raised in a Pentecostal church which I do not regret. I left at 14 and renewed my beliefs in my 20s. I've lived wildly and done all sorts for many years. The last few years have been a test as I was spiritually abused by a lady pastor. Nobody believed me fully even the associate Pastor who was a man. This is 3 years ago. I now do not put anyone on a pedestal! The church is not a building it's ur own faith and walk with God who I still believe in.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
The bible say; in John2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us."
Meaning
@@oluwabunmiayodele1873 meaning, The bible is saying fo those who left the faith "thye weren't with us, they did not belong to us" that's why they left. I don't think she understands the bible clearly.
@@esseyshimbahri6301 Well. Anyway, she is not going to hell because there is no such place.
So you can go back to sleep now.
True. Many will call Jesus Lord on that day, but will be seen as never knowing Christ. I have listened to alot of stories like the youtubers and they all have the same message.
Good for you for finding the courage to find your own truth and think for yourself. Christianity never resonated with me, I'd try to believe just to fit in but never felt true to me. I found truth and comfort in my spirituality, once I abandoned all religion and found my spirituality everything started to make sense and feel right. I found Karma and chakras, tarot, past lives and reincarnation to be absolutely true after tons of research and soul searching. There was so much proof and consistency all without all the contradictions you find in christianity. This is my belief and I hope you find the answers that make you happy as well!
Every day you carry your cross and follow jesus. He never said it would be easy. But he did say he would never leave you nor forsake you.
What’s the point of him than if he’s not gonna help us?
9:50 "They who dont know the Lord will go to hell!"
Yeah. Thats one of the main things that makes christianity a religion like anyone else.
Its built on fear.
You have to choose between A and B. If you choose B you will be tormented for ever.
"What do you choose!"
If you think about it this way it feels absolutely sick and insane but that is actually the main core of the christianity.
I do not see it that way. At first the reality of afterlife grabs a persons attention, but then over time it should be the love and understanding of God, that makes us.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 But its still the threat of hell that fucks up everything. Many, many people has been indoctrinated believeing in hell fire since they were kids.
Parents are feeding their children with the "thruth" so that they are not going to be condemned by God.
Its the same with islam I think.
People do possess free will! The Lord we serve never said dwelling on earth wouldn’t make his children encounter setbacks or even death… The devil is the one who destroys whereas God restores! Don’t give up or disappoint Him like i did….GIVE YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST
@@outrokrq1101 Why should I give my life to Christ,was it to fulfill my desires or his desires in the way he wished?
Its called extortion.. I hate this hate cult 😤😤😤😤😤
For me, the question that really shook my faith was "how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"
Bruh u should check out Islam we don’t blind in blind faith it’s pure logical faith out of all religion ppl r leave Christianity n Islam is da fastest growing religion they even said in bbc too and in my humble thought. And we do believe in Jesus Christ peace be upon him we can’t be Muslim if we don’t believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus never preach Christianity nor he called himself Christian n church was around b4 Jesus was even born 330yrs bb4 he born n We hav a hole chapter named after Mary in da holy Quran u should check it out n we believe the bible is corrupted dats why God send another prophet to tell the truth to ppl n tell who Jesus Christ peace be upon him is. Peace and blessings of God be upon you 😊
🤣🤣🤣🤣yooooooooooooooo 2 funny..... I'm crying 😭😂😂 😂😂
@@bettinaivory28 Saying "Logical faith" is like saying "Honest Creationist".
AB- HDGamer
There is no evidence for your religion either. People have been trying to prove a god exists since we started making up stories to explain natural phenomena in our caveman days. And since those days, whenever we’ve discovered an answer, the answer has never been “god did it”.
@@A1.4U If adopting islam means I have to type like an idiot, I'll remain an atheist, thank you very much!
Thanks for your honesty, open mindedness. I was raised a Roman Catholic but stopped practicing that denomination of Christianity along time ago. I have never read the Bible cover to cover or got into big time study, but I have read books of the Bible, sometimes a few times. I would say now, I'm 60 yrs. old, that I'm more of an agnostic than a Christian. Tapestry! The tapestry of the world's cultures is a wonderful thing. Having an open mind, and embracing the various cultural differences, makes for a more peaceful existence, as compared to closed minded tribalistic, egocentric mind construct. Coexistence is more, "Christian ", to me than a, " if you don't walk like us, talk like us, think like us, worship like us...etc...etc mind set.
Especially now, towards the end of 2020, this, " my way or the highway", thinking is way out of hand. Being one species...human...does not mean no individuality. Our very nature, the life force, the spirit, the soul, whatever name you want to give it, is in all of us. Coming from the same source. It's just in differing vessels. Male vessels, female vessels. Light skin pigments or darker pigments. Tall, short, blonde or brunette...etc...etc. Even in nature. The same life force. It's the force that powers a stars burning, the gravitational forces. This force...you can call it God, Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah or the great I AM. We are it!! I AM that I AM is such a great statement of being secure in who you are! No judgment, just acceptance. I love the diversity of our world, of our species! Embrace...not hate. Peace.
I left too!!!!! And I loved your story. I still believe there is an afterlife but, it is basically nothing like what is taught in the church.
Can you explain ur afterlife concept
@@Jeezkv I am sure that my limited human brain can not begin to comprehend the wonders that await us after this play that we are currently involved in is done but, after listening to and reading the accounts of hundreds of people who have shared their Near Death Experiences, it is evident that what we have been taught is just the tip of the iceberg. We like to think that we have it all figured out and that what we have come to believe is ultimate truth. I guess that makes us feel safe and secure. It is funny how every faith believes that they know exactly what is going to happen when ultimately nobody has a corner on the market of truth. I know this does not really answer your question but, that is the point. And for anyone to assume that they know what is going to happen after this life is over is not logical at all. If that was possible they would have to possess the entire wisdom of the Universe. We both know that is not possible at this point. Peace and Love to you.
@@thekman1812 u r right. No man knows what will happen in the afterlife, but for God. God through the Holy spirit, vision and appearance revealed what will happen and that entirely possible. Isn't it. Revelation and the book of Daniel is about it
@@Jeezkv But, isn't it funny how basically all religions are claiming the same thing that you are claiming?
@@thekman1812 which religion claims a similar revelation. In Islam, they will be provided with 72 Virgins and all what the heart desires (materialistic).
In Christianity, it is the fellowship with Christ we r going to get
I was born in muslim country. But i have lived in skandinavia all my life and my family are not religious., we believe in being Good with everyone and thats all. I met this Christian guy and he came to my work all the time. He was very charming and sweet at the beginning. once he wanted to meet me so we met up. after a while he was so weird. Very jealous and controlling. He would say that my spirit attacks him and that he cant be with a woman without marriage. I said thats cool i respect that. Then He asked me to marry him only if get Christian. He said i have to submit to him. Asked him what He mean about submit? He said that i should do Everything and agree with what he wanted from A wife. I said hell no thats abuse and controll. He later on started to say i am a devil because i dont believe in Jesus and that i Will go to hell. I Got so depressed from him all i did was be Nice to him. He turned out so evil and Everything was a sin for him. Later on i found out he is scizofrenic and had been in mental hospital all his life. He was a hypocrite And now im scared of Christian people. Very jugdemental and crazy.
I am so sorry for you😔. People be that way, especially religious ones, I have much experience with them but I am not Christian or religious. QUESTION EVERYTHING! You did great😊!
You are Strong. You are a survivor. As for me I choose to be a Muslim because I received signs n saw beings after I asked a question my testimony is on my channel. Along with my paranormal experiences if you are interested. More videos on the way . For the record i had a scizophenia test turns out im normal ( more like paranormal). Peace from England UK
@@mysecretsketchbook865 "..........As for me I choose to be a Muslim because I received signs n saw beings after I asked a question..........."
LEAVE THE CARLSBERG ALONE MATE...! Keith MANCHESTER
I left Christianity in 2017 and the Bible nonsense and I had evolved a lot since then. The understanding of myself, the nature of reality and love for others have amplified massively in my life since i left such cancer by the name of Abrahamic religions.
What made you leave God
@@angelmariyajose5343 I left Christianity and not God. The Bible is a book about a tribal deity called Yahweh that Moses borrowed from the tribes of the desert. Yahweh is not God the Bible is not well translated. The Bible is also full of distortions, borrowings and false teachings. There is no God in the Bible.
@@ketsune23 From where did the bible topics are borrowed
@@ketsune23 Is there any proof
@@angelmariyajose5343 there are thousand of proofs if you search data and research books. The Bible is borrowed from many places for example most of the book of proverbs is from the book of wisdom of Amenope a Egyptian philosopher. Most psalms are from other cultures such as Baalism, Egyptian, Sumerian , Persian ect. Most of the borrowings come from the nations that the Israelites were slaves like Egypt and Sumeria. They just adapted it to their culture. Even the Egyptians did not eat pork because of Horus and the black pig story
I was raised church of Christ.
Got saved and went regular. Never too involved other than normal service. Rarely did I do much religiously on my own.
At 16 I had a bad break up with my first heartbreak. Before things fell apart I prayed for it to work out. It didnt but before that other things crept in my mind. Like how the majority of my church were old jerks with non biblical yet justifies views. Also noticed all were rich and we were a dirt poor family.
So the break up happens and that began a cascade of doubts. I went agnostic for about 2 years.
Went back to faith after gramps died. Stayed with it about 10 years loosely.
Then over dosed on my medicine amd went to rehab. There I was told addiction is a disease and I had no choice. Yet I belived in a God of free choice. The words echoed in my mind "made sick commanded to be cured".
Then I slowly deconverted for about a year. Slowly those skeletons in closets crept out. Those unanswered questions came back. So I took off my God glasses and studied the bible. Boi that did a lot.
Now I'm a deist and far from religious.
There's my story.
... and the story is not over. Maybe the best is yet to come.
I was looking for another deist. I left religion just a few days ago
The bible can be appealing in good and bad ways depending on your personal feelings and blind mentality. Following God requires constant spiritual growth, you havent studied on that.
This is exactiy what just has been revealed to me. You reflect me 100% Im 24 hours into. Ugggh.
You soooo speak my thoughts. Thank you for sharing.
I read somewhere the Catholic wrote the new testament, too??
Ugggh.
I hope it's better a month later.
How are you doing now Brenda?
we are not all going to be on the same page as christians.....I cant understand how some christians think its ok to join the military.......let the holy spirit lead your journey with God
Why is it not ok to join the military?
didnt god command men to commit genocides... so why not join the military
The military have chaplains...
@Justoo explain to me on why an athiest should give a fuck about god
I don't know when it will happen, but you inspired me to make an effort to share my deconversion story with the world in the same format that you have presented. There are certainly a lot of topics to cover, and there are a lot of variables that can't be spoken on easily. It's important to me that I put my story out there somehow, so that maybe I could inspire someone else to think rationally about their own perspective and to further solidify my own thoughts and put my story in a tangible format.
I am rational, and i believe in the bible. Its irrational to say everything happened by chance, its much easier to say everything was created.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 How does one rationally conclude that that the Bible is correct? Please demonstrate how it is irrational to believe that our existence resulted from probability. Sure, believing that existence is a result of creation is easier but how would it be more accurate ?
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 you're on the wrong channel. Move along.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
Listening to you is EXACTLY how I felt in the church.. I also was raised in the church and felt the exact same way. I’m so glad I met my husband because he really opened my heart and mind to see things so differently and to really learn to love people just as they are. It’s nice to NOT feel like I have all the answers being so much willing to hear other sides and really be more of an open human being!
Hi Jaden,
I myself have NEVER been religious, neither will I ever be. My dad is a Christian but he never pushed it on me and he accepts and loves everyone. Because he's originally from the West Indies, all his family have been brought up having religion instilled into them from an early age. Because I'm British, I thankfully didn't have that pushed on me. I went to Sunday school a few times and liked it, but even at around 7 or 8, I knew that what I heard and read were all just stories (especially the more fantastical elements of The Bible). I knew this was fake before I even knew Santa Clause wasn't real!
My dad doesn't go to church now (especially now he's got health issues) but he's not particularly religious either, more spiritual. And that's the thing; I have zero problem with Spirituality and I myself do think that there could well be a higher power or whatever that is behind the scenes. But religion? Now that's just a man made construct and unfortunately it's arguably the single biggest detriment (or at least one of) to mankind and it's continual evolution. And I personally have to commend you on managing to sit through that sermon with that pastor doing the whole fire and brimstone shtick. I would have been up and out of there, screw that!
Btw, you're a lil' cutie - Are you like 5"2' or something? :-)
😁😋 Someone seems to be hitting on the OP? LOL 😄
How sad, it just goes to show you that your father either didnt believe and was just a churchgoer or he doesnt care about you enough. Christians are commanded to spread the message.
So; Adam and Eve never existed?
@@SabbatarianSundayer. Obviously they didn't.
@@Esoteric.Autochthon
Obviously; they DIDN'T? Wow!
We share very similar views and see things similar when it comes to what does not relate in Christianity. I left Christianity almost 5 years ago as well after growing up in it and being baptized taking my faith seriously when I was 23. Thanks for sharing!
Baptism doesnt necessarily mean you are serious. I got baptised 5 times, it does mean a thing, what matters is the marriage and not the proposal. That is all a baptism is, a proposal.
One of the reasons people misrepresent God / are confused about God is the horrible translation errors in our bibles made by clerks of "a certain denomination".
They had no clue about God's intend, so made it fit their conviction.
Luckely the original line is clearly visible.
1: God created us after His own image and likeness. Gen 1:27.
2: Man fell. That is what you see in this world: lust, greed, selfishness, strange philosophies, sicknesses, corruption, terrorism, death, etc, etc. Genesis 3.
3: God, the spirit of life, manifests fully in Christ, pays the debt for mankinds fall so we can be indwelled again by His Spirit and be transformed back to origin. John 14-17.
Pure grace, love, power of God for His creation.
Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons His first friend, i and many others experience up to this day!
Some examples of these idiotic translation errors.
Saved, from the Greek Sozo actually means: made complete, brought back to origin.
Eternal life from the Greek Zoë means: life of God, divine life.
"You will see Jesus coming on the clouds" actually reads: "You will perceive Jesus from a heavenly perspective"... who He is, what He did, who you are IN Him.
"Everyone not found in the book of life will be thrown in the lake of fire" actually reads: "Everything not found in the book of life....". Every lie we believed about God and ourselves will vanish through Jesus's truth.
Wrath from the Greek Orge means PASSION. So there is no wrath of God upon mankind. God IS love!
Wrath from the Greek Thumos also means PASSION. There goes the "bowls of wrath" poured out by God over humanity... it's "bowls of boisterous PASSION" through Chris that are poured outt!!!
Etc, etc, etc, look it up in the Kittel Theological Dictionary or in any Greek/Hebrew Strong's app. It's there.
So now we have ignorant preachers parotting the lie that we have to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus (who is God....) and "have to repent or go to hell". Utter nonsense.
In stead it is: God restores us through Christ by His own atoning blood sacrifice and indwelling Holy Spirit, from mankind's fall, to His own image and likeness (Christlikeness) because of... passion.
For God so loved the world....
God cannot be tempted to do evil....
There is no turning or shifting with Him....
If you don't love you don't know God, for God is love....
The goal of all instruction is... love
The Father Himself loves you....
Jesus healing all..... love
Jesus raising the dead..... love
Jesus casting out demons.... love
Jesus controlling nature..... love
If wrath would be in God, it would be the tenth fruit of the Spirit.... and it is not!
Etc, etc , etc.
It is a breath of fresh air hearing about your deconversion story. I am going through a very similar situation and it is great hearing someone else. Thanks for sharing!!
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
@@jameswittmann1608 hey James! From your comment it seams that you are a very passionate individual. That is supper cool.
Is there a main point that you are trying to communicate? You touched on so many topics it is difficult to know what to reply to. Since posting this comment six months ago I have been doing an insane amount of research and soul searching and I would actually push back on a few of your points. I believe that it is harmful to think that we are inherently wicked and that without God we are somehow hopeless. You talk like are all doomed to eternal torment without the saving grace of Jesus. Firstly, I am calling bull on that. How do we even know that there is any hell or an afterlife? Second, if what you are saying is true i see things a bit different. You say that Jesus is a parachute to save us from an inevitable doom that we rightfully deserve. I would say that in this scenario Jesus is more like a masochist who pushed you out of a plain without a parachute and will let you plummet to your to your death unless you worship him for how awesome he is for letting you live. You say that we deserved to be on the cross for our sins and that Jesus took our place. I say that no one deserves to be crucified. If God has the ability to forgive sins why would he be so insecure as to first need worship from people? If God has the ability to save people from eternal torment then why would he need a human sacrifice in the first place? Because God's justice rage needs to be satisfied? So his big plan is to murder his son to satisfy his own blood lust?
James, you think that we are all inherently wicked and without hope without God. I see that your beliefs are strong. That is all that it is though, just a strong belief that does not hold up under scrutiny. Are you a perfect person? Probably not. But I would wager that you have better morals than the God of the Bible. If random people were plummeting to their deaths and you had the power to save them would you require arbitrary proclamations of faith before saving them? I thought that salvation was complete on the cross. If a proclamation of faith is required before that salvation is applied then the work was not actually completed on the cross.
I didn't grow up in church. I had all the freedom to choose what I wanted to be.
Sounds like you are talking about the human experience. Remember, God is a gentleman. He knocks on your door and politely waits for you to open the door.
It has nothing to do with the church and people. It is about your Personal Relatinship with God. That is all there is to it. Bless you!
My new believe now is,trying to be the best of your self is enough in life.
In the bible is the perfect standard and perfect morals.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 Why do you believe the Bible to be true?
Benefits of leaving religion are many, the main 2 are time and money
Religions are man made. What God made, man cannot make. Man cant' create the universe and what came after that.
Had the same experience, I was doing the sound and church while the pastor was talking about being devoured by demons if people don't tithe and that moment I decided to leave
I left Christianity this summer. New Muslim from France 🇫🇷❤️🤗🤗. Islam changed my life and made me a better person.
Why would believing in such things make you a better person? Thats just what they make you believe. Hope one day you can realise what was done to you.
@@misterb6456 bro no ones religons wrong. And Islam is generally a peaceful religon and I can see why it changed their life for the better.
@@doratheexplorer5354 Who says it is not wrong? And i can see how you have been made to believe, that it changes your life better. Wouldnt want to change with you.
Moana changed my life, therefore Moana exists.
I grew up mostly in a non denominational baptist-y church, but went to AoG when I was young, and an AoG school from 7-12th grades. My experience with church and Christianity was similar to yours, which is why it took until age 30 to really feel comfortable with asking those hard questions and getting answers that took me away from faith. I moved in my early 20's so my connection to my church community began to sever, but I still found new christian family to join, however it allowed me to start asking some questions of myself and my faith. I had asked them before even as a young teen, but was afraid of the answers. I'm 10 years out of it now and trying to raise my kids to think for themselves, but my wife is christian and they still attend church. But I hope they don't derive their identity from it, like I did.
Thanks for sharing your story Jaden!
edit: I also like that your whole goal is to be a more loving and caring person. I agree, which is why I think knowledge and science matters, so that we can use that to help people more! I want to live in a world where humans show genuine love for one another, regardless of identity or background.
Its not about just going to what people insights are, because people have their own understandings. Its about what does the King James bible say.
I didn't expect to like your video, but I actually enjoyed listening to you. I liked your honesty - you didn't pretend like some people that Christians are 'evil' and terrible people, but you admitted that there are things you enjoyed about Christian fellowship and that you still appreciate now, those nice relationships of caring for one another.
In my view, based upon your video, you still are a Christian and a more caring and mature one than you were before. 'Hate' is not a part of the gospel of Jesus, nor is disliking other people because they have different views from Christians. As Christians we're called to follow the gospel of caring for others, not judging them or criticising them - that isn't part of the gospel. Having faith in Jesus is not 'religion'. Its trusting the one who left an empty tomb and was seen resurrected by over 500 people. As for life after death, there are so many reports of near death experiences, which contain elements which cannot be explained, except by some form of spiritual experience, that we should know enough at this present time, to say that we cannot rule consciousness beyond death, out. Personally, I'm convinced that experiences of near death historically form part of the biblical narrative.
The heart of the gospel of Jesus is not 'fear of Hell', but love of God and of other people.
Yeah .... at the end of the day christianity is about carrots(Heaven) and sticks(Hell). I just don’t believe the Bible is historically accurate but is a book of mythology. I left religion in my mid 20s and I’m now agnostic. I’m happy with my decision but I’m all for people finding faith if that is what they feel compelled to do.
Bruh u should check out Islam we don’t blind in blind faith it’s pure logical faith out of all religion ppl r leave Christianity n Islam is da fastest growing religion they even said in bbc too and in my humble thought. And we do believe in Jesus Christ peace be upon him we can’t be Muslim if we don’t believe in Jesus Christ and Jesus never preach Christianity nor he called himself Christian n church was around b4 Jesus was even born 330yrs bb4 he born n We hav a hole chapter named after Mary in da holy Quran u should check it out n we believe the bible is corrupted dats why God send another prophet to tell the truth to ppl n tell who Jesus Christ peace be upon him is. Peace and blessings of God be upon you 😊
I urge you to look into the history of the Quran and how Islam also came about. Specially look at how Islam relates to the planet Saturn. ALL major (Christianity, Islam,Judaism) religions is Saturn worship (go see why you circle the black cube at Meca and where that actually comes from), don't take my word for it though. Do your research.
Nompumelelo M lmao u getting brainwashed bruh 😂😂😂😭💀🤦🏾♂️ we don’t worship da black stone it’s da direction we face for unity prayer hav u ever read da Quran instead watching islamphobia websites n video
If I could ask you, how did you conclude that it is myth. Have you gone through history. Archaeological evidence and Roman historian Tacitus confirmed that Jesus was crucified. They are not Christian, dead against Jewish Christian faith. Read more history and of course, it will make sense
@@A1.4U seems like you have just watched an yusuf estes video. 330yrs before Christ who was the God of the Catholics. Which website has your story.
Great video! I left the church also.
"Hell" is such an absurd, medieval concept.
Besides, I wouldn't want to worship a God that would create such a place.
I am not in any way trying to criticise you so please don't take it that way haha I would just like to share my perspective too :) I respect your opinion, just wanted to share a little bit. I don't think that hell is this place that God sends people to suffer forever because they were not 'good enough'. Heaven, is a place where someone can spend all eternity in the presence of God. Hell is the absence of God's presence. "Sending" someone to hell is not about God making people suffer, it's about honouring that person's decision in life not to follow God. It would actually be unjust and unloving if God forced people to go to heaven and live in His presence if they did not want to. This does not make hell any less bad. I think that being out of God's presence, the One who loves us so deeply and adores us, is hell. But I just wanted to share a bit of my perspective, as opposed to the traditional "fires of hell". I think that that imagery of fire and flame is a symbol or representative of the suffering that exists outside of the presence of God. It's not about God being vindictive and causing people to suffer. It says in the Bible that God WANTS all people to be saved and live with Him. That is why He saves us by grace, to make the way free for us to come to Him. He does not want His children to go to hell, but if they choose not to be in relationship with him, he honours their decision even if it is hard for him.
God created it for the things you love but that hate you. The devil and his allies (Demons) will go there, and it was made for them. Imagine if God created a better place than hell for humans, people would stop believing in Him and live more freely. The point is God says you want to follow the devil in rebellion, Join him.
When God created the earth it was perfect. When God created man, he was perfect and innocent. Man disobeyed God and sin entered into the world and death by sin, so death is passed upon all men in that all have sinned. You can reject God if you wish, but the Bible states in John ch. 3 v 18 that you are condemned already because you do not believe. God loves you and sent His Son to die to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. He offers you His mercy and salvation in grace to prevent you going to a lost eternity in hell and the Lake of Fire. Hell was for the devil and his angels, not for mankind. Do not forget, God is a Holy God and hates sin, as well as a God of Love. That is why God has made provision for you in His Son, Jesus Christ.
@@smeatonlighthouse4384 No Scientific evidence for any of this lol
I uploaded my comment before I had finished. I should have said thankyou for opening up about this, and I hope your continuing spiritual journey works out well for you.
Dude .. i so respect your journey.. i literally had the same experience to an extent in my own life. And i have to admit i been feeling dead inside for the last year and you inspired me to walk in my own light . ❤ much love dude and i wish nothing but the best for u .
Appreciate this message!! Optimism and openness are beautiful things! Wish you the BEST, too.
Fantastic, short, brave and classy presentation. This should help anyone struggling with those very personal and deep thoughts about spirituality and religion.
Thanks Jaden - I really appreciate what you shared, and how you shared it. I am a retired Episcopalian priest from Ireland, now living in Thailand. Everything you say has the ring of truth in it - authentic. That's the basis of a healthy spirituality. I am sure you are a wonderful nurse - not needing to 'save' people but just giving them your loving attention in the present. I hope to have a book out in the autumn which promotes PERSON-centred spirituality. To help people to have the courage to use religious organisations which are helpful to them, and by-pass those which are not. It's YOUR life - enjoy it to the full!
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
do not be afraid.....
Joseph Stine 😂😂 you’re hilarious!
Thank you so much for sharing. I truly believe that more of these stories need to be shared. You're so brave for opening yourself in this way. Do you feel like you're missing the community?
Having a relationship with God is what we need! Talk to him read your bible the devil does everything to take people away from God fight back and don’t forsake God cause he’ll never forsake you!
@@KY.M19 Stop. Wake up Dolly. You are so scared to question your God. Just wake up, and embrace life.
I left religion when I was younger. The church was a very toxic/ abusive place/ mindset/idea for me growing up. I was an atheist and agnostic.... The reason I believe in Jesus now is because I realize I misjudged Him and His word based on religion, other Christians aka other flawed people, church traditions and trauma I was experiencing.... God is actually love... that realization, His love is what keeps me now. When I have the feeling of not wanting to be a Christian (it still happens ) I remember I need to allow God's love to touch what ever part of my heart is rejecting His love. I'm not perfect at it but God doesn't change if He was love yesterday He still is today. No matter what He loves us. 🧸💕🧸 It's a love that follows us even when we turn away are broken...a love that's always waiting for us...
I had to go to church daily before school. I got out of the Catholic church in my teens but then tried other churches. Some good some bad in all of them but for years I've stayed the hell out of them for good reason. I love God and His word. He has nothing to hide. The bible is truth and NO ONE can get around it. So many have gone away from God because they were hurt by churches or they pretended to know what the bible said when in truth they didn't care to study it. Anyway, it's good to see people like you who have the desire to truly know God and thank Him for all His many blessings. The best is yet to come, too!
@@2fast2blockThank you kindly! I hope you had a lovely day! Yes, sadly people are flawed we all are. It is because God loves us in our flaws that we are able to love others by His Spirit. One of the ways Gods love is expressed through us is by how we love and work in unity with His family, ie other born again believers. I pray you find a church home some day a safe place to receive and give love in Christ.🧸💕🧸
Welcome to reason, glad to have you on our side. ;-)
Thank you for this video. I have similar experience. We only have one life, better live without fear, be bold take responsibly and be kind. I have a specific problem with how the church twists the money aspect saying you should give even tho you don't have saying you will get 10 filds back.. making people jepordize their finances "for God" and make believe money don't matter so they don't learn and take responsibly for their personal economy. How are you supposed to help people if you are stuck...
Does anyone else still have that reflex of "EVIL 🙅" whenever you see a statue of buddha, a poster of astrology, the Yin and Yang symbol or any of that stuff? It was so drilled into us that those were not of god, and therefore evil, that I still have that knee jerk reaction. And what's with the "🤟"? Why would that be evil?! 😂 It's all so random..
I'm in like this weird middle right now, where I definitely don't believe in the Bible anymore and I'm really broadening my horizons with other readings and learning about atheism and other religions. I don't believe in god anymore as it's portrayed in christianity, but I still automatically pray at night and throughout the day. It's weird.. kinda have to find my way..
I feel the same way. I go through depression because mistakes I've made I a lot times think of myself as an evil person!
Beautiful words i was an Apostolic/Pentecostal Preacher then Hebrew Pastor. Keep elevating. I want all my people to rise from this fairytail
It’s not about Christianity it’s about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ
What made you become a Pentecostal preacher anyway?
I grew up Muslims and I went through a lot doubts and questioning of the faith and eventually religion as a whole. I still believe in a higher power but I think all these organized religions in the world are very similar to each other and that they are man made. Even the aspects of science has started to feel like a religion.
Thank you for your video.
There is a difference between following Religion and doing all of the things that check the “boxes” e.g. going to church, and having a personal Relationship with Jesus. I think that is a trap that a lot of people have fallen into. As well as the “Church experience” and Biblical illiteracy, which I also fell into as a new follower of Christ. This would allow you to answer the questions that may have been stumbling blocks on your way out of faith - in the Bible it says that we should know how to answer the difficult questions to be able to defend our faith - 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.
Lord Jesus I thank you for Jaden’s life. I thank you for keeping and prospering her Lord. I thank you for leaving the 99 and chasing after her heart. I thank you for touching and transforming her heart and helping her to realise that you are the truth the way and the light. Give her revelation and confirmation and fill her with living hope. I come against any plans of the enemy to kill, steal and destroy in her life, and I thank you for your perfect peace that abounds understanding. I bless your name Lord Jesus. Amen.
Come here and let me iron that shirt for you.
LivieFluff 🤣
I like a shirt that is not ironed.
Wow, lmao😄😄!! OP should jump on that, lol!
😂 something my dad would say
Hummm did you come to her channel to ridicule her shirt or hear her story......🤨SMH.......maturity has no age.......wisdom is key
I really love your videos . Especially this one!! Because I’ve been through similar experience
I stopped being a Christian when I was fasting & praying to the Christian God for a fiancial blessing & things turned for the worst...
My dad ended up getting a medical condition where he couldnt walk for months & everything in my life was going down hill & while all this took place, the holy spirit convicted me of to keep praying & singing praises to God for healing for my dad. So you hurt my father just so that you can get the glory & praise in the end for healing my father when God inflicted this? That is narcisstic. The holy spirit during that time told me to have faith & reminded me of the book of Job. God allowed Satan to attack Job by killing his family & causing depression on Job. The bible talks about how people making sacrifices to other gods as bad yet, The Christian God does the same thing like how God allowed Satan to kill Jobs family as sacrifice so that Job can get blessed 7fold. God killed innocent babies & people many times as well. Do i really want to worship a god that is narcisstic & cruel? Thanks but no thanks
My heart is soo with you. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom in the true Gospel.
What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate acceptance which will produce the "works" over time, but is secondary to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: ruclips.net/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/видео.html
This is 8 years later, in the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where their opinion is valid and important.
God's love.
Nicolas
Yes, when we believe, as the book of Romans constantly says, He will cleanse us of all unrighteousness. His law is written on our hearts and if we truly believe in what He has done for us on the cross, He will help us follow that law by His Spirit. It's not works of our flesh but of Him who is in us!
I understand your journey. I took a similar journey. There are things you need to get rid of and let go. But following Leary or anyone else without God will be a dead end. It may take years, but you will see. A good question to ask ALWAYS "who is talking?"
Right on! I too was indoctrinated into, and at the age of 23 escaped from, an assemblies of god church. I'm now 47. Writing that just now made me realize that I've been free of religion longer than I've been trapped by it! Ahhhhh, breathe it in! No more guilt, no more fear, no more feeling like I am somehow falling short. They want to try to convince you that you were born sick, then offer you the holistic cure! (That's a borrowed quote). It seems to me that your humanity is what shined through and broke the spell. How freakin awesome are you! Christianity didn't feel right because it ain't right. It's like waking up isn't it! Oh, by the way, there is quite possibly a secular/skeptical/atheist community not far from you (unless you live in the boondocks)! You should check it out! Thank you for sharing this...made my night!
That is the problem of the church they say that you cannot do certain things, that is okay to do and they say you are guilty before God and that you need to be saved. Although this is true, messengers should not dwell on that message.Its not good, there is so much more to being a christian then Jesus death on the cross.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 The thing is, the christian god is a monster, christian doctrine is immoral, and there is no good reason to believe any of it.
Don't judge Christianity by your limited experience. Unlike you, I lived a wayward, self-centered life as an atheist before encountering Jesus Christ in a powerful way at the age of 30. From that moment I have been free of guilt, free of fear, secure in the knowledge that I am fully accepted by God. No one has had to convince me of anything that I have not discovered for myself. I have now drunk from the well of my freedom in Christ longer than I was in the dry spiritual desert I was in before. What turns churches into prisons is that they become inward-looking communities of like-minded people. Don't make the same mistake . The only "community" we need to belong to is the human race.
@@ChrisSmith-xh9wb Is this the same god that endorses slavery, homophobia, misogyny, and genocide? Go read your bible.
@@bibleburner8426 I have read the Bible many times and studied much of it in depth. It sounds as if you are cherry picking a few verses without considering their context or relationship to the whole. That is not an appropriate was to read any piece of literature.
I totally respect your decision. The terrifying aspect of hell, I feel sometimes is what tries to keep me on the straight and narrow. I feel shame and guilt for sins I've committed. I'm guilt ridden all the time and cannot snap out of it. It is strange how we are told to fear the wrath of God, yet he loves you. 🤔 What kind of sense is that?
As for what's on the otherside, thats a bit trickier. It is the unknown of course, but I was lucky enough to have the most phenomenal experience after my mother passed. My mother was a woman of deep faith. She was born and raised Catholic. She attended Catholic schools throughout her entire school years and I believe the nuns and the church gave her a distaste in her mouth. She never raised us kids through the Catholic church. She was diagnosed with cancer and I remember a few weeks before she passed we had a pretty in depth conversation about death. I was laying on her lap as she was holding her rosary and saying her hail Marys. She talked into great length about her fear of hell. I tried to comfort her and let her know that God knew her true heart and not to worry, her repentance was all she needed.
Now as I was saying before about the most incredible experience I have ever had. It was 8 days after my mom passed. I was walking around to my side of the bed to pull back the blankets when I heard my mom's voice. She said my name and that she is ok. She said it telepathically like a thought transference. It was her voice without any doubt and I wasn't on drugs, hallucinating, or remembering her voice to hear what I needed to hear. It was her! It was heard in my brain, telepathically is the only word that best describes it. I didnt hear her with my ears and if anyone else would've been in the room they wouldn't have heard her either. You see the night we had, when I was laying on her lap I asked her if it's possible to let me know she's ok after she died, that's exactly what she did. This is called an After Death Communication, (AOCs) and there are thousands you can read online. A website devoted to just that.
So I have without a doubt, I 100% believe our consciousness exists outside our bodies. Where we go is the question?
Preachers are preaching a message that is true God has wrath, but he also loves and only uses wrath as justice, His love is freely given and can be accepted and held by anyone and everyone who wants it.
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
Exactly. Reading/watching near-death experience stories and after death communication are part of reasons I left Christianity
You should never give up on Jesus! He never gave up on YOU!!!!!!!
AMEN!!!
Then why let people go to hell if he is all powerful he could have saved and fixed us
This woman has been Decieved!!! She was never a real Christian to begin with.
The Lord Jesus Christ who was fucks me off, and you are more than fine with my insulting him. I pray to God, and in that prayer I say I tell the Lord Jesus Christ who was the only Son of God that I hate him, because of what he never promised in life on Earth! I WILL EVANGELIZE HATRED FOR HIM, BECAUSE HE WAS A SORRY ASS MOTHER FUCKER, AND A SUCKER FUCKER FOR ALL OF THE LOVE I HAVE FOR HIM, AND I HAVE ASKED HIM TO DAMN MY SOUL TO HELL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE HE DID NOT PHYSICALLY HEAL ON EARTH!
"When you have so many assumptions...no way to approach truth. If you want to approach truth...you don't assume anything"--Sadhguru
I grew up in a evangelical church, as well and I had no other option as a child but to attend and sometimes 6 days a week for various activities. My dad was a lay church leader in every church we attended and his faith and expectations for us to believe like him dominated our family. Yet as a child I learned to read before even kindergarten and I read my mom’s book club fiction (not science fiction). Even this fiction reflected the writers’ backgrounds in various religious faith traditions. I learned that humans make efforts to grasp the concept of death and the questions of why we are born and our purposes in life and it became clear to me that efforts toward religion are simply human efforts to cope with the idea of death and the life, if it could possibly continue on after death. One would think that if there was a God there would be a clear message where humans don’t have to flail around in competing faith concepts in order to find peace.
I felt out of my relationship with Christ, and believe me it has nothing to do with to do with organized religion.
Jesus is Lord🙏🏼🙌Hope you can experience him.
Everything will pass but his word will never pass. We cant suit the truth to suit what is more accommodating to us.
We can imagine all we want but, God has already said in his Word.
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Our greatest weakness is not out there, but our own hearts and it is a heart issue, not a head issue - we do not what we're suppose to do, and what we ought not, we do - who shall deliver us from this body of death? Regardless your worldview everyone is faced with this dilemma, as well as the questions to origin, meaning, morality and destiny that has to be answered coherently and consistently.
Every human being has a master, the unbeliever either worships Self, or science, or idols (eg. a job, or money, or tv, or sport), or other gods, etc. The born again child of God has surrendered whatever they had on the alter of their hearts to God, to give to Him His rightful place in their lives, because our Creator isn't just another thing in our lives, we acknowledge Him as Lord, for in Him we live and move and have our being.
What is truth? There's no such thing as your truth or my truth - that's the beauty of truth it is absolute, mutually exclusive, coherent and consistent.
Jesus Christ said He is the Way, the Truth and the Life: The person of Jesus Christ provides a coherent and consistent answer in the incarnation, He identifies our malady, provides for our malady, draws us into that relationship, takes us through the process of suffering, shows us the purity of Himself in the way He taught and lived and ultimately rising from the dead. He teaches us that time is merely a temporal thing, we are here for Eternity and He alone is able to take us through the cross, not a way but the way, pass the empty tomb into the very presence of God.
Eye has not seen, ear has not heard, neither has entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.
I now understand what Paul means about being tossed to and fro by diffrent winds of doctrine. I now understand Jesus when he spoke about building our house on a rock.
Thank you for sharing your story. I can't help but say...when you spoke of not resonating with the concept of non-Christians going to hell. It sounds like you were listening to the "religion" and people ('Pharisees' as God would say today) & not what the Bible and Jesus say. God looks at the heart (1 Samuel 16:7). This can definitely be confusing if you look at (imperfect) people; but it's important to stay focused on what Jesus says only and not the regurgitation of scripture from society or even a lot of the misguided churches these days. Regardless, I am on my own journey and trying to be healthy in my pursuit of living in truth -- I am open to hearing the stories of atheists, Christians, those who have deconverted, other religions. So, again, thank you for sharing your experience. I wish you all the best!
Yep. Everyone ELSE'S religion is wrong. Lol.
But if she's not Christian then she likely wouldn't believe Christian doctrines. She doesn't vilify the Pharisees like Christians often do, doesn't hero worship Jesus and she doesn't regard the bible as the word of god. That's what not being a Christian means... not believing biblical claims, at least certain claims.
The doctrine of hell is perhaps greatest of all reasons not to believe. Any belief system that would use such a sick and twisted fear tactic to coerce conformity and recruit new members is not a belief system worth having. It's sure sign of a fraud. Only an nefarious mind could conceive of something so evil as eternal torment and use it to achieve an agenda.
Jesus's words have been edited countless times just like the rest of the bible...how do you know you are really reading Jesus's words? Just curious.
Koko Davina Koko Davina fair question!! I pray for discernment, which the Bible says you should do. But, also, I believe two things: 1. That God is qualified to ensure that what we need, the core of the Bible, has been delivered to us. 2. Because the Biblical faith is relationship based it is most important that you focus on that...meaning, if all we ever had was John 3:16, it would be enough to build a faith-based relationship with the living God and the rest would be revealed to you through that. Also, for me, a book surviving almost 3000 years that continues to have the impact the Bible has had, the controversy even, is something worth reading regardless of what you decide or choose to believe ultimately
@@emskeeeee hey Emily I agree discernment is very important. I have never read the bible fully but from what I have read God does not come across as i've always imagined him to be which is unconditionally loving. He is portrayed as angry, wrathful, jealous & narcissistic, he honestly sounds like how I imagined the devil would be. It's confusing. It makes me question the motives of the people that wrote and edited it. It seems like a tool for control but I have friends & family that are christian and they are lovely people so I don't judge anybody for their religion or what they choose to believe. I think if you are a good person with a good heart that's what matters. Thanks for the reply and hope you are doing well.
Thank you for telling your story. I love your shirt. It has caused me to smile. Because I rarely de-wrinkle anything. Your shirt is a metaphor for your post-Christian life.
It is called having a spiritual awakening and discovering the truth.
I believe in treating others as I would like to be treated
Excellent now go and seek your Creator. We are here for a purpose.
That whole fear based control thing is manipulative AF Fear is the opposite of what god should be to anyone…
It’s like Plato’s cave, all shadows and illusions
Christianity is no illusion. Just think of end times.
Mostly everyone will be questioning the truth but not the answer until they go within. I Believe meditation and eating healthy and connecting with nature can help YOU connect with GOD and your higher self.
Its impossible to connect with God and be spiritual, yet not consider Jesus's teaching. The opposite is also true. The higher self also comes through Jesus teaching, because his teaching is to make us like God in persona.
Thank you for sharing your journey. Although I have to say, as a Catholic, the "Christian" church you describe doesn't sound like the Church/religion I know. As Catholics we do not believe that all other religions/non-believers are doomed to hell. That would not make sense. If you grew up in a remote part of the world and never heard of Christ or you grew into a family/country of another religious faith, it wouldn't be of any fault of your own. Exactly how that works, we do not know, but we believe in God's grace and power. We view life as a journey and are called to help people along the way (even Catholics take heat from other Christians for the focus on "good works"). Good luck to you on your path.
What the hell. (Pun intended) What kind of catholic are you. Of course Catholics say people are going to hell, but they also believe in the unfounded belief of purgatory. As i have said before. Its a license to sin, this alone is enough proof to say purgatory is a lie. If purgatory existed Jesus wouldnt talk about the narrow way and say few will be saved.
@@joshuamartinpryce1237 I am the kind of Catholic who loves Christ! And I refuse to respond to your hateful and evil comments! I will just block you instead! May God bless you!
True joy comes from the lord. Porn, sex, getting drunk, yes sin makes you happy but it’s sinful and it’s not gonna make u go nowhere, your loving your self and not god the one that gave u everything u have. Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge, it’s a good fear, if ur at a cliff slipping and about to die your fear will make u back up, and do the right thing. Your not aligned with a lot of stuff because all our hearts are wicked and prideful and desire bad things, we live in a fallen world and the devil is attacking always like a lion. We’re not a good person we all lied stole committed adultry withen are heart we all used gods name in vain, we all are sinners, good has many definitions and the first is moral excellence, Jesus died for us, we broke the law Jesus paid the fine, if your in court and someone pays our fine your out, people will go to hell if they don’t have the parachute to save them, the one that paid there debts, they will have the death sentence sentenced to them, and god made them and died for them and they don’t even care about god, Jesus says to spread the good news to everyone, it’s not about winning a argument or showing religion “u gotta do good works” but it’s loving them and caring about them and tryna show them we are all sinners and Jesus is loving and died for us so we can be saved, you don’t have to be worried about going to hell if u have the parachute, either your pastor was corrupted and the church was, cuz when Jesus was on earth he denied the corrupted church, or the pastor was having us realize about how and we have to spread the gospel and not have a prideful heart, sometimes the best way to get someone’s attention is giving a lil squeeze on the ear, and what u said no one knows anything, well is that true?
Thanks for your story! I can relate a lot ❤️
Jaden - I watched your video all the way through. Thank you for sharing your story. I'm a committed Christian, and I hope you'll allow me to add some comments. In telling your story, I was struck by the general absence of Jesus (at least, in your telling of it here). I heard a lot about commitment to God, but not much about the person and work of Jesus Christ FOR us. The whole Christian faith hangs on Jesus' death & resurrection. If he rose, the reasonable thing to do is believe. I respect where you're at, but if you're ever open to it, I would recommend reading Reason for God by Tim Keller or Will the Real Jesus Please Stand Up? by Matthew Richard. Peace.
Justin if you are still a committed Christian then there are two very simple questions you need to ask yourself. Question one is; "How important is it to me in my life that the things that I believe to be true are actually factually true?" Give yourself a score of between 1-100 where 1 is "I don't care if what I believe to be true is actually true I just want (need) to believe it" and 100 is "It is vitally important to me that the things I believe to be true are actually factually true"
When you have given yourself a score then ask yourself the second question.
"What method did I 'personally' use to verify that what I believe to be true is actually true."
Now when you answer question two you cant say "It says so in the Bible" because ANYONE from ANY religion can simply say "It is true because my holy book says it is true" you need to have some outside source to verify whether anything you believe is actually true.
If you don't have a good answer to question two and you gave yourself a score of 100 in question one then you have no good reason for believing what you do.
If you want to give us a score on question one and try and answer question two here on this thread we would love to hear it.
@@sulas548 Hey Sula! Thanks for the questions. I have no problem answering question one as 100%. If I didn't think Christianity was factually true, I wouldn't believe it. To paraphrase C.S. Lewis, Christianity either means everything or nothing, but it cannot be "mildly important."
More specifically, Jesus' (physical) Resurrection is at the center of the Faith. If I didn't think it happened, I wouldn't waste my time with it. In line with what the Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:13-19, I believe that "If Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. … And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied."
As for question two, I'd simply say that I examined the claims being made (just like you would with anything else) and found them to be true on every level (evidentially and experientially, objectively and subjectively) . Sound defenses for the Faith, centered on the death and resurrection of Jesus, are widely available, so I'm not going to try to re-hash those here in a comments thread. Check out the books I previously mentioned or
J. Warren Wallace, Cold Case Christianity
Frank Turek's Cross-Examined RUclips Channel ruclips.net/user/TurekVideo
N.T. Wright, Resurrection of the Son of God (kinda long!)
Jesus Under Fire by Wilkins and Moreland
Since you mentioned the validity of the Bible, though, I will just say that its textual credibility is unlike any other sacred scripture. There simply is no parallel. The textual transmission through history is so certain and voluminous its ridiculous. See below:
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Your line of questioning seems to assume that there are no good reasons to be a faithful Christian. I'll end by posing some questions back to you: are you sure that's the case? Are you sure you understand what the heart of Christianity is? Are you sure you understand the person and massive claims of Jesus Christ, as found in the New Testament?
“There is enough light for those who only desire to see, and enough obscurity for those who have a contrary disposition”
- Pascal
@@justinclemente1772 Justin thank you for your civil response, I will split my response into two posts.
I have clicked on all your links and have read some of the books you mentioned.
From my point of view there are two aspects to any faith and those are 'emotion' and 'facts'.
I will deal with emotion first as that will address your question to me.
Every religion that is extant or extinct has had devotees that will use the 'personal experiences' (PE) to justify their beliefs and I am sure that you will also fall into this category but since PE is used in every religion and for thousands of gods it cannot be relied upon as a pathway to the truth. I have visited 54 countries and lived for many years in seven of them on five different continents. I have spoken in depth to people of all the major religions and without exception they all think that what they believe is 100% true and what everyone else believes is wrong. I have found the Christians to be generally the most conceited and arrogant when it comes to proclaiming that their PE with their god is of a better quality than others and that therefore gives Christianity more credence . There has been research into the affects of Dopamine on the brain during religious experiences which clearly demonstrates that the wonderful feeling that you, and all other devotees from other religions throughout history, feel when engaging with your respective gods is purely a chemical reaction on the pleasure centres of your brain and has no outside source. Watch this video ruclips.net/video/ocuqguH1OIw/видео.html
So from my point of view any PE that you have relating to your god is easily explained by simple chemical brain activity.
Christians often use faith as there last resort argument when they run out of facts but ever forget that;
Faith is simply pretending to know something that you don't actually know.
ANYONE can believe ANYTHING using faith.
Faith is not a pathway to the truth.
Faith is what you revert to when you have no evidence.
So to summarise, getting a warm fuzzy feeling inside when you interact with your god is NOT evidence for your god it is evidence that you had a warm fuzzy feeling and nothing more.
@@justinclemente1772 And now to the factual side.
If you are being honest by giving yourself a score of 100 (which I hope you are) then it is incumbent on you to investigate fully your beliefs and I don't think you have done that. It appears to me that you have started with the assertion that the Bible is true and then looked for anything that backs up that position
I am a bit disappointed with your selection of links.
Frank Turek is someone that I have witnessed be very dishonest in his arguments, he bullies people who know less than him and collapses completely when debating people who know more. His constant use of the Cosmological and Teleological arguments after they have been so thoroughly and utterly debunked is evidence of his dishonesty.
I have never seen him give any explanation as to how he connects the creator god of his above arguments with the dysfunctional god of the Bible.
I have read Cold Case and again was not impressed, he spends the first chapter telling Atheists that they should not state that there is no supernatural without proving it and then spends the rest of the book assuming that there is supernatural without proving it. His methodology is very poor and if he returned to real detective work using his methods in the book he would be sacked immediately. All his conclusions are predicated on his assertion that the words of the Bile are true, so he was just using the book to prove the book.
As you so succinctly said, no resurrection means no Christianity, so lets look at the facts.
The Gospel of Mark was written by a Greek speaking scholar (who's name was not Mark) some thirty years after the 'alleged' events in what is now Lebanon and he had clearly never been to Judea and met anyone directly connected to the events he was writing about. He ended his writings with Jesus on the cross, the remaining verses about the resurrection were added latter by someone else. This was followed by 'Mathew' some ten to fifteen years later who wrote in Greek from what is now Syria and basically took what 'Mark' had written and embellished it and then onto Luke who concocted ever more outlandish nonsense. The resurrection story just kept expanding and plagiarised pre Christian religions and myths that the authors would have been well versed in.
Why you would give any credibility to these contradictory nonsensical self interested fictions is something I find difficult to understand.
There are ZERO contemporary historical references to Jesus or any of the allegedly amazing things that he did. Don't you find that odd?
Your assertion that the textual transmission of the Bible gives it credibility is only predicated on your initial assumption that the first copy was not fiction.
What method did you use to verify that the long lost original of 'Mark' was not total fiction.
Also the Book of Mormon and the Quran can be shown to have survived in their original forms. Does that make 'them' true?
@@justinclemente1772 Have you looked at the work of Richard Carrier, Ken Humphreys and Bart D Ehrman all highly regarded secular biblical scholars.
leave religion, not Jesus Christ
I have studied hundreds of NDE's and I have never heard the light beings or "God" ask the person about their beliefs. It was only about love. How we treat each other is what matters...thanks for sharing your thoughts!
true. NDE stories is one of reasons brought me out of Christianity