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What you said about Opening Shot, about the perk activating every 3 seconds, I honestly never knew that! I always thought it was only the first shot of the mag. Mind blown!
Is it just me or are all the hawkmoon perks just consistency boosts? Not that it's a bad thing, but feels weird how a lot of them are just different ways of making hawkmoon feel better.
That happens with only one combat perk slot. Mag, scope, barrel, and grip perks are all about consistency. But you get its exotic perks instead of a second combat perk slot
Agreed. I had one with opening shot and eye of the storm, and I always loved how I''d have good accuracy at the beginning and end of each gunfight. It was and still is one of my favorite HCs in Crucible.
That should honestly take the place of surplus since the catalyst basically gives it a great value surplus, these are all pvp focused perks so a pve one would be a neat addition.
@@MylesBrennen it’s because it means the gun will always feel different. Also with how strong abilities are atm it wouldn’t be good to save them. Also hawkmoon has really high stability even on PS4 so it’s kinda unnecessary
I have searched and SEARCHED for details on how opening shot works and boom you just drop it in my lap as a side note. I like opening shot way better than I used to now that I know how it actually works. Thanks for great info, my dude.
The catalyst gives the paracausal shot a opening shot ish feeling for every headshot. So if you pair it with opening shot. You'll always have opening shot (kinda)
@@lynnmckenney1987 hand cannon targeting in general is just fantastic. I personally pair it with dual hand cannon loader for the last word and its great.
First time I completed it, my 2 rolls were opening shot and eye of the storm. The opening shot roll has max handling and the eye of the storm roll has alot of stability. I like both of them but the more stability one definitely feels better. Cheers.
Hey I was kinda mad that I dismantled my rangefinder hawk. But I’ve now got a hawk with poly rifle, open shot, and poly grip and you made me feel good about that.
Bravo... Got Moving Target and Opening Shot last night. Ran the Moving Target hawkmoon last night in Crucible and loved it a lot... But also had hand Cannon targeting on. Good to know I was wasting a perk, I'll be taking the Opening Shot for a ride tonight. And double thanks because I didn't know that about opening shot also 👍🏾
I gotta say quick draw is over opening shot, even if its more lenient, or gives range unless your able to move or adjust your not gonna land the optimal ttk. Quick draw gives you faster swap speed if your running another gun, maxes handling so you can take other perks that give you that perfect recoil and more range.
Just use lucky pants with Hawkmoon and not only does it allow you to swap to it faster, buffs accuracy so it's like opening shot whenever you want it, and modded holster allows you to keep your cawcaw shot stacks while it loads it. So example, paracausal shot x5 and 1 round left, swap to a different weapon, let the holster add some rounds, swap back, now you have 4 rounds in the mag, paracausal shot x5 and an accuracy buff. Why more people don't use lucky pants with Hawkmoon is mind blowing to me. I've literally had someone laugh at me in an LFG for not running last word with Lucky Pants. Like dude, this is a rage inducing combo, I can 2 tap high resil guardians and turn right around and jump in PvE and do 345k damage like it's nothing. Such a fun combo, its basically all I've been using. I will say though, if you can't land precision shots, this is not for you. If you can land precision shots, then you're welcome.
Not sure if this video is Pc or console but here's the console God roll: Fluted Barrel/Killing Wind/Polymer Grip. If you need to know why, do the math adding the near 100% handling for a free version of Quickdraw and Snapshot. You get even more range from the catalyst and kills from Killing Wind bring you to the range max for the archetype. I have it. It's the God roll, no questions
You don't need to wait 3 seconds for opening shot to come back. You can just switch weapons and switch back and that will work too. If you have a quickdraw secondary this can actually work pretty good for peek shooting. You need to actually let the other gun be drawn though, you can't just double tap the switch button.
As a console player, chambered compensator is actually really good, I max out stability as much as possible with my hawkmoon because the catalyst increases all other stats (range, handling, reload) so the only stat that doesn't get a buff is stability
I was lucky enough to get 6 different perks this week. Killing Wind, Rangefinder, Snapshot Sights, Opening Shot, Surplus, and Eye of the Storm. My favorite has been Killing Wind because it has the most range out of the others. My RangeFinder roll has the least range of the 6, but the most stability. I might give that a try over the next few days, since Rangefinder will replace the base range on the gun.
My PvP rolled Hawkmoon is Full Bore / Rangefinder / Smooth Grip. On a warlock with Ophidian to max out the handling I pretty much have the highest range possible, quickdraw, 100 Aim Assist thanks to the argeting mod and the ability to crossmap people with dumb range. It might take a bit to get used to the different stability than the base no perk hawkmoon, but after that I'm confident in the fact that this roll is the PvP roll to chase. Hawkmoon feels incredibly consistent with this perk combination, to the point where I'm starting to duel 120s from distances where I should be easily outgunned and I can still win the fight...
I actually got small bore, opening shot and smooth grip on my first characters drops! I instantly felt like the gun was a lot more accurate and easier to use
Got 4 of these 1. Heavy Grip, Rangefinder, Corkscrew rifling 2. Heavy Grip, Killing Wind, Fluted Barrel 3. Heavy Grip, Surplus, Smallbore 4. Heavy Grip, Opening Shot, Polygonal Rifling
Opening Shot is also in play for a quasi Icarus as the in air accuracy of the first shot will get some help. Always the biggest issue for me with exotic HC's.
best PC role: hammer forged, opening shot, combat grip best console role; smallbore or hammer forged , opening shot, combat grip or smooth grip to sum up the vid and from what each platforms look for in weapon perks
The HM I'm reallying loving right now in PvP has poly barrel, killing wind and poly grip, I wish it had smooth grip, but for my play style as a hunter it is NUTS!! Im trying to get a poly barrel, open shot, and smooth grip for my Warlock and Titan.... Great vid 🤙
The first random roll I got has Rangefinder / Smooth Grip / Hammer Forged on it, and I really enjoy how it feels but only when I'm not using Hand Cannon targeting perks. When playing on MnK or Controller, stripping of those armor mods makes things feel just a bit more consistent that actually using them.
1st harbinger run 3 moving target HMs. 2nd run 2 Rangefinder with the good barrel and grip. 3rd run Opening shot with the same barrel and grip as the rangefinders. And boy do those 4 are insane to use.
Full bore and heavy grip gives an acceptable (especially with the catalyst) handling at 60, stability at 67 which might or not be the point where your recoil gets super manageable. All of that comes with 70 range giving the stat split I want.
My personal god roll is Full Bore, Rangefinder, Textured/Combat Grip. Boosts range by a ton and textured grip gives good handling, but combat grip gives you 100 recoil direction which is great for duels.
I feel like it should be noted that Hand Cannon Targeting is normally 5 armor energy, which is pretty expensive. Might impact roll decisions for next season, when/if Hand Cannon Targeting isn't an artifact mod.
Surplus changing muscle memory is a non-starter because the hawkmoon catalyst changes everything for every crit you land. There is no technical muscle memory with this gun. Also, surplus is pretty dope imo.
@@bannedmann4469 It already says on the perk. For each ability it gives an increasing amount of stab, reload, and handling. Maxes at 3 charged abilities. Not really sure why it would need testing to confirm that?
Wait, for hawkmoon it should be snap>quick Because if you have any charge you dont really want to swap. So snapshot allows you to engage quicker after sprinting with your gun out.
PSA: This week's Exo Challenge is really good for catalyst farming. In the boss arena, damage the boss enough that it goes and stays up on its platform. Enemies will spawn constantly in groups of 6/7. Red-bar goblins, which can be one-tapped easily. Got my catalyst done in 20-ish minutes without having to worry about nightmares or other players like the altars of sorrow.
I gotta small bore, moving target, and polymer grip. It’s comfortable, might not be the best, but once I get used to it. It’ll take over for Sturm. It was my favorite gun in D1, so I was just glad to have the gun back
Just got a full bore rangefinder smooth grip roll and damn it’s soo much better now. I actually wouldn’t use my hawk moon in pvp because my god roll dire promise just felt far better but now I can use both depending on the situation. My dire promise is still better but this roll sunsets probably next season as the cap is 1310.
I finally got my God roll Hawkmoon......Polygonal Rifling, Rangefinder with Smooth Grip. Until now I was sporting a Hawkmoon with Hammer-forged Rifling, Rangefinder with Textured Grip.
I have a Hawkmoon roll that has: Fullbore, Alloy Magazine, Killing Wind and Combat grip and maaaan does that thing feel nice to use. Killing wind is such a good perk(that I didn't know was good until I actually used it). I have have a roll that is almost a god roll. Has range finder but no fullbore or combat grip. If I can get one with fullbore, rangefinder and combat grip, that would be my go to. Edit: Just noticed but the killing wind one also has 100 for recoil.
Finally got to do the mission First roll was meh with surplus, full bore, heavy grip. Im on ps4, so not great. The second roll though... Smallbore, Rangefinder, heavy grip. You might say that the grip sucks, but i like it. Two reasons for that: First, as said, I am on ps4. Stability is important. Second: ive been playing dragons shadow for ages now (way before it was popular, but not that much longer, just a few months). Handling buff is already there to negate the downside of the grip
Nice to know about moving target. I'll keep the perk and spend those points on +10 sniper or shotty aim assist and ads speed... when we aren't in a 340 pulse meta.
He is right about moving target movement buff i tested it on a few guns and I literally couldn't tell a difference. There might be a fraction of a second difference but its really not that beneficial, I do like it for snipers though.
Damn, so close. I rolled Hammer-Forged and Killing Wind on a Hawkmoon in my first pair, but with Combat Grip. It feels smooth as hell though, and absolutely slaughters in PVE which is what I mainly play, so I'd say I'm pretty happy with it.
dammit fallout your content is so good you find a way to make something I couldn't care less about, entertaining and engaging to watch, I think hawkmoon gets overshadowed by lots of 140s but i still clicked on this video the second I saw it.Its crazy to think your one of the smaller D2 youtubers TL;DR you are my favorite d2 youtuber, keep up the stellar content, much love.
Baby Bird hear! Thank you for confirming my thoughts on Moving target roll agenst my Eye of the storm roll! I was feeling like Eye was strong but as a wise nerd wizard once said "feelings aren't numbers" so thanks again for doing the hard work!
Lol this video was nice but found myself learning about how crosshair mechanics work. Which is nice, but literally nonexistent in my game as I've dropped the HUD for a more immersive experience. Highly recommend that you try the game HUDless, it's beautiful
I have an eye of the storm/surplus trustee and it has changed my mind about the EotS perk. Once it kicks in I’m hitting shots around corners. So forgiving. People might report me for cheating.....
@4:53-Me grinding my newly acquired Hawkmoon in Sorrow's Harbor with Corkscrew Rifling, Moving Target, and Smooth Grip. T_T ...Luckily it was a dual drop. My other Hawkmoon has Polygonal Rifling, Rangefinder, and Polymer Grip. Well then. (Back to the grind.)
Was looking back into hawkmoon vids and had to stop by, swore by moving target for the 120 meta but two I want to try are eye of the storm on it’s own and surplus with drewsky’s surplus build. Both could be interesting but surplus needs restraint for abilities still
Surplus is good to keep as a roll cause 3 abilities makes it a laser beam basic recoil but it doesnt jump. Its very good for console but it is a situational weapon as it pairs good with a high ability regen build
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yes
bae
I skipped too early and the intro said “what up you n...” actually caught me off guard for a moment ngl
I got my fluted, killing wind and smooth grip god roll on my first try!
I want this video again but it's just you saying "Smooth Grip" for 12 minutes.
@@pillshere6037 hhahahahahahaha! Got em! 😉😁
What you said about Opening Shot, about the perk activating every 3 seconds, I honestly never knew that! I always thought it was only the first shot of the mag. Mind blown!
I’m beginning to grow on the intro of “what up ya nerds”
Fallout's dry humor and delivery is so underrated
I love it. Nerd confirmed🤓
Psssssh, not me, fuck him! Jk
Go watch Techoblade then lmao
I think you mean the intro is beginning to grow on you 👍🏼
Is it just me or are all the hawkmoon perks just consistency boosts? Not that it's a bad thing, but feels weird how a lot of them are just different ways of making hawkmoon feel better.
the weapon's design completely plays into the paracausal shots. I mean why would you want sth like kill clip on it?
@@erianasvow9744 bcs the alloy mag?
one tap someone, quick reload, get damage boost for the nexts?
ngl, I want to go full meme with it
@@redacted144 sounds like a cammy build, good point
Cuz otherwise itd be the only weapon anyone would use in the history of Destiny forever until the franchise ends
That happens with only one combat perk slot. Mag, scope, barrel, and grip perks are all about consistency. But you get its exotic perks instead of a second combat perk slot
Before I watch the vid I think the best perk is either Killing Wind or Opening Shot.
rangefinder for me
Eye of the Storm should not be slept on, too. Opening Shot, Killing Wind, Rangefinder, and Eye of the Storm are all hella viable.
Before I watch, Opening Shot or Rangefinder. I’m on Console and the normal gun just feels almost as limited in range as Last Word.
Eye of the storm is the best perk watch Coolguys video. It’s insane.
@@bboul7671 Some people don't like the downside of Eye of the Storm though. It has a weird activation condition that some people don't like.
I think Fallout calling me a nerd is becoming my kink
lmaoo
Same here.
Lmfao
Ahhhh nahhhhh 🤣
fallout: "Avoid hipfire grip and moving target"
me who got both rolls on the first try: "well shit"
I’m same boat both hip and no ring where first ones to drop
Don’t listen to him, moving target is a god roll and opens up a spot on your helmet
Austringer taught me the value of Eye of the Storm. It is so good.
Hammer Forged, Accurized Rounds, Eye of the Storm + Rangefinder Austringer user here, can attest to this!
Agreed. I had one with opening shot and eye of the storm, and I always loved how I''d have good accuracy at the beginning and end of each gunfight. It was and still is one of my favorite HCs in Crucible.
@@OrieosBlackDesert This roll was mine and I loved it to death. I still miss it. IMO the best hand cannon that Bungie's ever produced in D2.
As a PvE player, it would be amazing if Hawkmoon could roll with Rapid Hit for group major clear and nice boss damage when heavy is burned.
It would be nice if it came with assortment bullets, 3 firefly, 2 exp payload, 1 high-damage
That should honestly take the place of surplus since the catalyst basically gives it a great value surplus, these are all pvp focused perks so a pve one would be a neat addition.
killing wind is a great pve perk makes it an ad clearing monster
@@thatguynobodylikes8892 I mean, do you really want to ad clear with the Hawkmoon? I'd rather use Ace or Sunshot for HCs to ad clear with
Bruh it literally has rapid hit in the catalyst. The catalyst boost reload speed and stability with each Paracausal stack.
My first (and so far only) random drop for Hawkmoon has Hammer-Forged and Rangefinder.
I think I'm good lol
same here hahaa. got another one with killing wind and corkscrew with the handle that gives max handling
lucky
I got hip fire grip and another grip, wtf lmao
Yep same here
that's what I want😭😭😭
Surplus on console is godlike... it’s like180s recoil
Surplus is great on PC too. My favorite primary this season has been a Surplus+Wellspring Trustee, it’s amazing!
From the INSTANT my surplus Hawkmoon dropped, I knew that was the God Roll. I'm not sure why all these content creators overlook it
@@MylesBrennen it’s because it means the gun will always feel different. Also with how strong abilities are atm it wouldn’t be good to save them. Also hawkmoon has really high stability even on PS4 so it’s kinda unnecessary
I got hammer forge Poly Grip with Surplus it's nasty as hell lol
@@samzh0174 I mean, as a chaos reach main, I don’t really need ny abilities, so I always have all the benefits
I have searched and SEARCHED for details on how opening shot works and boom you just drop it in my lap as a side note. I like opening shot way better than I used to now that I know how it actually works. Thanks for great info, my dude.
😂😂 “I’ll feed you baby birds 🐦 “ 😂😂
Going all hipfire in crucible with Hawkmoon. I didn't choose this life. This life chose me.
I feel your pain
any last word?
4:06 as a last word user on mnk I felt this🤣
How are you a last word user on mnk, shots deadass just do not hit.
@@Djitterbug built different
4:18 "Hawkmoon was meant to be ADS'd" **immediately scores a quick hipfire kill** hahaha. I love you, Fallout, just thought that was hilarious.
Managed to get a smallbore/ rangefinder/ heavy grip roll and it honestly feels amazing. Going to be difficult to beat.
The catalyst gives the paracausal shot a opening shot ish feeling for every headshot. So if you pair it with opening shot. You'll always have opening shot (kinda)
You don't have opening shot effects until x6 but before that it is still amazing boosts.
@@nathanschmit5841 that's why I said kinda. It does give you similar buffs tho
Smallbore + Range Finder + Polymer Grip on my third run. Lets go!
First one I got was hammer forged, range finder and polymer
Me: gets moving target
Also me: runs dual hand cannon targeting mods
Hand canon targeting on helmet + unflinching hand cannon aim on chest is my JAM
@@lynnmckenney1987 hand cannon targeting in general is just fantastic. I personally pair it with dual hand cannon loader for the last word and its great.
Went straight from the coolguy video to this one.
Fantastic content.
"Go out there with your buddies and do the mission"
Ahhh, those pvp kids...
First time I completed it, my 2 rolls were opening shot and eye of the storm. The opening shot roll has max handling and the eye of the storm roll has alot of stability. I like both of them but the more stability one definitely feels better. Cheers.
What you said about surplus is so true and something I've felt for a long time but not been able to explain so thanks
Hey I was kinda mad that I dismantled my rangefinder hawk. But I’ve now got a hawk with poly rifle, open shot, and poly grip and you made me feel good about that.
Bravo... Got Moving Target and Opening Shot last night. Ran the Moving Target hawkmoon last night in Crucible and loved it a lot... But also had hand Cannon targeting on. Good to know I was wasting a perk, I'll be taking the Opening Shot for a ride tonight. And double thanks because I didn't know that about opening shot also 👍🏾
my first run of the quest for random rolls got me small bore opening shot and poly grip, i’m not gonna grind for another because i like this one lmao
"If you're the kind of lunatic who hipfires everything" im sorry, my titan doesn't work well with aiming down sights, IM TOO CHUNKY TO BE STOPPED
*Showtime*
@@TommysMatchbook yes, my favorite hip fire only second to my actium war rig and sweet fuckin business
"Go out there with some buddies" - me crying over it, who has no friends and always plays solo.
If you're on PS4 dude, I'll play witcha.
@@jacepalmier7941 Sadly im on PC, but we can do it once cross-play comes
@@shouvikchattopadhyay1266 Yeah dude, sounds good to me.
@@shouvikchattopadhyay1266 ig we both going through the same on pc with no friends and only play solo
You can add me if you want *Jechx1*
@@TeoUnreleased could not find any one with this ign in stream. Here is my friend code 320310660
I gotta say quick draw is over opening shot, even if its more lenient, or gives range unless your able to move or adjust your not gonna land the optimal ttk. Quick draw gives you faster swap speed if your running another gun, maxes handling so you can take other perks that give you that perfect recoil and more range.
Did it 3 times on all three characters all my hawkmoons dropped with eye of the storm or QuickDraw EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM
Eye of the storm is good
yep, can confirm, EotS is incredibly helpful in 1v1s. I haven't been hands on with other top teir perks but I wouldn't be disappointed with that roll
I wish more exotic weapons had random rolls. Also Snapshot on hawkmoon is funny as heck to play with because it's basically hotswapping speed
before watching this i'd say killing wind or rangefinder
rangefinder? are you a noob??????
@@majora919 what’s wrong about rangefinder?
@@CereaI. nothing it's one of the best perks you can get atm
@@majora919 then why are you calling him a noob for wanting a good perk
@@narrahian9713 read the title of the video then read his comment
Just use lucky pants with Hawkmoon and not only does it allow you to swap to it faster, buffs accuracy so it's like opening shot whenever you want it, and modded holster allows you to keep your cawcaw shot stacks while it loads it. So example, paracausal shot x5 and 1 round left, swap to a different weapon, let the holster add some rounds, swap back, now you have 4 rounds in the mag, paracausal shot x5 and an accuracy buff. Why more people don't use lucky pants with Hawkmoon is mind blowing to me. I've literally had someone laugh at me in an LFG for not running last word with Lucky Pants. Like dude, this is a rage inducing combo, I can 2 tap high resil guardians and turn right around and jump in PvE and do 345k damage like it's nothing. Such a fun combo, its basically all I've been using. I will say though, if you can't land precision shots, this is not for you. If you can land precision shots, then you're welcome.
This week I got 3 worth keeping. First two are Extended, Killing Wind/Rangefinder, Textured Grip. The third is Smallbore, Opening Shot, Smooth Grip.
Not sure if this video is Pc or console but here's the console God roll: Fluted Barrel/Killing Wind/Polymer Grip. If you need to know why, do the math adding the near 100% handling for a free version of Quickdraw and Snapshot. You get even more range from the catalyst and kills from Killing Wind bring you to the range max for the archetype. I have it. It's the God roll, no questions
You don't need to wait 3 seconds for opening shot to come back. You can just switch weapons and switch back and that will work too. If you have a quickdraw secondary this can actually work pretty good for peek shooting. You need to actually let the other gun be drawn though, you can't just double tap the switch button.
As a console player, chambered compensator is actually really good, I max out stability as much as possible with my hawkmoon because the catalyst increases all other stats (range, handling, reload) so the only stat that doesn't get a buff is stability
Also opening shot gives that shot a inherited Icarus grip because the accuracy works in air.
I was lucky enough to get 6 different perks this week.
Killing Wind, Rangefinder, Snapshot Sights, Opening Shot, Surplus, and Eye of the Storm.
My favorite has been Killing Wind because it has the most range out of the others.
My RangeFinder roll has the least range of the 6, but the most stability. I might give that a try over the next few days, since Rangefinder will replace the base range on the gun.
Hammer Forged, Killing Wind, Smooth Grip was my first ever perked Hawkmoon. Been damn happy about it.
My PvP rolled Hawkmoon is Full Bore / Rangefinder / Smooth Grip.
On a warlock with Ophidian to max out the handling I pretty much have the highest range possible, quickdraw, 100 Aim Assist thanks to the argeting mod and the ability to crossmap people with dumb range. It might take a bit to get used to the different stability than the base no perk hawkmoon, but after that I'm confident in the fact that this roll is the PvP roll to chase.
Hawkmoon feels incredibly consistent with this perk combination, to the point where I'm starting to duel 120s from distances where I should be easily outgunned and I can still win the fight...
I actually got small bore, opening shot and smooth grip on my first characters drops! I instantly felt like the gun was a lot more accurate and easier to use
Got 4 of these
1. Heavy Grip, Rangefinder, Corkscrew rifling
2. Heavy Grip, Killing Wind, Fluted Barrel
3. Heavy Grip, Surplus, Smallbore
4. Heavy Grip, Opening Shot, Polygonal Rifling
Opening Shot is also in play for a quasi Icarus as the in air accuracy of the first shot will get some help. Always the biggest issue for me with exotic HC's.
I guess I’m in the minority of liking Hip Fire on my Hawkmoon. This is Hawk-Word
The last cacaw
@@rh0mbu577 dude I laughed so hard as soon as I read that!
If you want em you can have both of mine cuz that’s what I got 🙄😭
Dual grip so you hold it like a samurai sword lol
They didn't give it a yee-haw ornament for no reason.
best PC role: hammer forged, opening shot, combat grip
best console role; smallbore or hammer forged , opening shot, combat grip or smooth grip
to sum up the vid and from what each platforms look for in weapon perks
The HM I'm reallying loving right now in PvP has poly barrel, killing wind and poly grip, I wish it had smooth grip, but for my play style as a hunter it is NUTS!! Im trying to get a poly barrel, open shot, and smooth grip for my Warlock and Titan.... Great vid 🤙
YES, FEED ME *DADDY BIRD*
No
@@ajs0350 you're not daddy bird, gtfo
The first random roll I got has Rangefinder / Smooth Grip / Hammer Forged on it, and I really enjoy how it feels but only when I'm not using Hand Cannon targeting perks. When playing on MnK or Controller, stripping of those armor mods makes things feel just a bit more consistent that actually using them.
1st harbinger run 3 moving target HMs. 2nd run 2 Rangefinder with the good barrel and grip. 3rd run Opening shot with the same barrel and grip as the rangefinders. And boy do those 4 are insane to use.
Full bore and heavy grip gives an acceptable (especially with the catalyst) handling at 60, stability at 67 which might or not be the point where your recoil gets super manageable. All of that comes with 70 range giving the stat split I want.
My personal god roll is Full Bore, Rangefinder, Textured/Combat Grip. Boosts range by a ton and textured grip gives good handling, but combat grip gives you 100 recoil direction which is great for duels.
Thanks for covering the mags and barrels. Few do
Very informative and helpful. Definitely got my subscription!
I feel like it should be noted that Hand Cannon Targeting is normally 5 armor energy, which is pretty expensive. Might impact roll decisions for next season, when/if Hand Cannon Targeting isn't an artifact mod.
Surplus changing muscle memory is a non-starter because the hawkmoon catalyst changes everything for every crit you land. There is no technical muscle memory with this gun. Also, surplus is pretty dope imo.
After watching this video I've swapped out the go to hawkmoon for the non moving target.
Definitely better
Thanks dude
🙌
Just remember, you don’t need to do questline on other characters. Just hop on your other ones and que into harbringer and you get the hawk moon.
Imagine if it had fourth times the charm as a perk option
Or Mulligan
It would be irritating
N o
Stop giving Bungo ideas!
@@Lily-jt7wn why?
Gets moving target on one: awwww
Other one: opening shot: AYYYYYYEEEEE
Lol Everyone is sleeping on surplus it gives it almost the same stability as a 180 hand cannon paired with the catalyst it becomes a monster
I have Hammer forged and poly grip with surplus and it's nasty.
I got a Surplus roll and an EotS roll first 2 drops. Feeling lucky
Yeah, but I like using my abilities. Does Surplus work extra if you have an extra melee or grenade? Someone test this.
@@bannedmann4469 It already says on the perk. For each ability it gives an increasing amount of stab, reload, and handling. Maxes at 3 charged abilities. Not really sure why it would need testing to confirm that?
@@_ExTitus
Because a double charged ability could count as one
Wait, for hawkmoon it should be snap>quick
Because if you have any charge you dont really want to swap. So snapshot allows you to engage quicker after sprinting with your gun out.
PSA: This week's Exo Challenge is really good for catalyst farming. In the boss arena, damage the boss enough that it goes and stays up on its platform. Enemies will spawn constantly in groups of 6/7. Red-bar goblins, which can be one-tapped easily. Got my catalyst done in 20-ish minutes without having to worry about nightmares or other players like the altars of sorrow.
Which one is it?
I gotta small bore, moving target, and polymer grip. It’s comfortable, might not be the best, but once I get used to it. It’ll take over for Sturm. It was my favorite gun in D1, so I was just glad to have the gun back
very detailed and well explained :) thanks for the effort
First drop was fluted, opening shot, and smooth grip.
Kicking myself for not thinking of Altars of Sorrow for catalyst grinding! That'll certainly ease the grind!
Just got a full bore rangefinder smooth grip roll and damn it’s soo much better now. I actually wouldn’t use my hawk moon in pvp because my god roll dire promise just felt far better but now I can use both depending on the situation. My dire promise is still better but this roll sunsets probably next season as the cap is 1310.
Nice breakdown of the perks. thank you
I fully embrace the idea of Fallout being the new over ruler of this oh so.. er.. humble...? planet
I got a chambered, surplus, smooth grip. The stability on console is brilliant. When surplus is at max, it has a precision HC feel. :)
I finally got my God roll Hawkmoon......Polygonal Rifling, Rangefinder with Smooth Grip. Until now I was sporting a Hawkmoon with Hammer-forged Rifling, Rangefinder with Textured Grip.
I have a Hawkmoon roll that has: Fullbore, Alloy Magazine, Killing Wind and Combat grip and maaaan does that thing feel nice to use. Killing wind is such a good perk(that I didn't know was good until I actually used it). I have have a roll that is almost a god roll. Has range finder but no fullbore or combat grip. If I can get one with fullbore, rangefinder and combat grip, that would be my go to.
Edit: Just noticed but the killing wind one also has 100 for recoil.
Finally got to do the mission
First roll was meh with surplus, full bore, heavy grip. Im on ps4, so not great. The second roll though...
Smallbore, Rangefinder, heavy grip.
You might say that the grip sucks, but i like it. Two reasons for that:
First, as said, I am on ps4. Stability is important.
Second: ive been playing dragons shadow for ages now (way before it was popular, but not that much longer, just a few months). Handling buff is already there to negate the downside of the grip
Thanks man
Very helpfull
Befor this vid i was looking for moving targ
How come streamers go against people with potato aim but I’m constantly against Korean aim bots?
id say its movement
Nice to know about moving target. I'll keep the perk and spend those points on +10 sniper or shotty aim assist and ads speed... when we aren't in a 340 pulse meta.
He is right about moving target movement buff i tested it on a few guns and I literally couldn't tell a difference. There might be a fraction of a second difference but its really not that beneficial, I do like it for snipers though.
I literally got the roll you can pull from the Collection tab but with Killing Wind. Honestly, I'm happy with it.
Damn, so close. I rolled Hammer-Forged and Killing Wind on a Hawkmoon in my first pair, but with Combat Grip. It feels smooth as hell though, and absolutely slaughters in PVE which is what I mainly play, so I'd say I'm pretty happy with it.
dammit fallout your content is so good you find a way to make something I couldn't care less about, entertaining and engaging to watch, I think hawkmoon gets overshadowed by lots of 140s but i still clicked on this video the second I saw it.Its crazy to think your one of the smaller D2 youtubers
TL;DR you are my favorite d2 youtuber, keep up the stellar content, much love.
Baby Bird hear! Thank you for confirming my thoughts on Moving target roll agenst my Eye of the storm roll! I was feeling like Eye was strong but as a wise nerd wizard once said "feelings aren't numbers" so thanks again for doing the hard work!
Lol this video was nice but found myself learning about how crosshair mechanics work. Which is nice, but literally nonexistent in my game as I've dropped the HUD for a more immersive experience. Highly recommend that you try the game HUDless, it's beautiful
Deadass just finished my first run and got a small bore, opening shot, and smooth grip 🤠
I have an eye of the storm/surplus trustee and it has changed my mind about the EotS perk. Once it kicks in I’m hitting shots around corners. So forgiving. People might report me for cheating.....
Smooth grip, you say? Hmm...feels like there's a lawn mower 3.0 joke in there somewhere, but I can't put my *finger* on it.
@4:53-Me grinding my newly acquired Hawkmoon in Sorrow's Harbor with Corkscrew Rifling, Moving Target, and Smooth Grip. T_T
...Luckily it was a dual drop. My other Hawkmoon has Polygonal Rifling, Rangefinder, and Polymer Grip. Well then. (Back to the grind.)
The way FP says "Smooooooooth Grip" kills me every time. XD
Thanks for letting us know the stats on the grips.
Feeding baby birds... reminds me of Patrick and his 3D Doritos.
After seeing this video I'm not certain I will be tackling the mission now with confidence 👍🏽 thanks @PapaFallout I appreciate the video!!
The background music is chill AF.
Was looking back into hawkmoon vids and had to stop by, swore by moving target for the 120 meta but two I want to try are eye of the storm on it’s own and surplus with drewsky’s surplus build. Both could be interesting but surplus needs restraint for abilities still
BT-Dubs I snipe so I don’t use handcannons for long range(i.e. I don’t use rangefinder :l )
My first hawkmoon was smallbore quick draw and smooth grip.
My third hawkmoon was corkscrew rifling, range finder and smooth grip.
That face when literally every roll you got so far is Rangefinder. I wanted a Killing Wind roll goddamnit!
I stopped playing D2 regularly, but I still come back for fallout videos.
I got hammer forged rifling, snapshot sights, and polymer grip on my first completion of harbinger pretty happy ngl
Surplus is good to keep as a roll cause 3 abilities makes it a laser beam basic recoil but it doesnt jump. Its very good for console but it is a situational weapon as it pairs good with a high ability regen build
OPENING SHOT RESETS!? Omg no...! I literally just dismantled a frozen orbit with opening shot and Quickdraw thinking I wanted snapshot Quickdraw!