Well stop supporting frank keeps asking AJ about his targets trying to start shytt he’s a fucking loser they just want the story they are not real eagles fans
I dont disagree. Especially late in the game. It felt like he was afraid to let it rip. To Carolinas defense, They have been playing alot better the last few weeks, and They played like they had nothing to loose.
Hurts holds on to the ball way too long and seems like he waits until he sees receivers open to throw it instead of anticipating they’ll be open based off the route their running. Very indecisive.
They are going to need to bring someone in on the practice squad to maybe show Elliot that theres a sense of urgency and that he needs to start making FGs. He's no Justin Tucker. Elliot has made some big kicks however he was never on the level as Tucker in which he has earned the right to struggle. Eagles have giving Elliot enough grace.. now its either get in check or next man up. Cant be missing PATS like that. We got lucky there was an offsides penalty. Unacceptable.
Only thing that worries me is that is offense looks so anemic at times. That's not good! And injuries can get this defense beat. I know it's tough after what they had to do last week. But today shown a few flaws.
Adam Thielen is the first slot receiver I’ve seen shake Coop a few times. We ran a lot of zone but when he was locked up on him his footwork was impeccable. It’s mostly bc I haven’t seen that team play yet this season and just assumed Theilen was washed I guess but wow hat tip to that guy for still getting it done on a crappy team.
Bro ive never seen a city or analyst overreact like this. Its so absurd bro they just had two madsive games back to back and have big-none next week you have days like this lmaoo
If you assumed this would be a blow out win, you need to check your expectations at the door. This team has played their asses off for 9 wins in a row and got the W today. This team dominated the Rams who just put 44 up on Buffalo in a win. R E L A X
@@EaglesTruth you literally saw Jalen Hurts go 27/38 for 304 yards, 1 TD, no picks, 71% completion in a Super Bowl. The guy set records with his rushing TD's. Quit hating on Hurts because your expectations of what winning "should" look like, aren't being met. GO BIRDS🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Hurts looks like he's regressed back to his early years, super hesitant to throw & quick to pull it down for a run. It's nice that he's not turning the ball over but sooner or later this lack of execution is gonna cost us the season.
What on Gds Earth would You know about any One Players role in Team Effort yielding 9 Straight Victories. Shut you Face about Shit you don't know about.
@xBUDDYxVSG there's Overbrook School for the Blind down there in West Philadelphia obviously you don't know much about football if you can't see that hurts is a wonderful quarterback and your stupid seemingly visual observations are horseshit dog s*** and b*******
This comment section is wild 😅... 3 total tds NO turnovers! Remember last season when we had two receivers over 1000 yds... we lost! Passing over 30 times a game is not his strength. We are a run furst team, thats our identity. Jalen is like a point guard, get the ball to your playmakers and dont turn it over. And has excelled in that role in the past 10 games. Hes playing within the system and the TEAM is winning. For example just last night Josh Allen scored 6 tds and the TEAM LOST! OUR QB says it all the time... keep the main thing the main thing. Overall the entire team had a bad game. It happens, but they found a way to win.
Let’s chalk this up to a bad game that we were able to win. That proverbial trap game but we won. The guys know what to do to fix it. Let’s not get negative. We are still winning but as Mailata said they need to study this and get back to how they truly do things. Go Eagles!!🦅
None of what Jalen’s doing wrong is new. He’s always gripped the ball too long. He’s never been able to get past his first and sometimes second read. He’s never targeted the middle of the field. It’s always hero ball throws or scrambles. Saquon and our D is going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting in the post season.
Some days are better than others. This was a very bad day. Maybe his worst. He failed to do his job & refused to throw the ball to wide open guys hes looking right at
@ when you lead the nfl in longest time to throw by quite a bit & take more sacks than almost any other QB despite having the greatest O line & time to sack… its not as much an opinion as its a statistical fact that he holds onto the ball too long. Jalens a great playmaker & he had a bad game its OK… still you’d like to see some improvement in these areas
gosh! we've won 11 games and I've never heard the Philly media being positive. Its exhausting being a fan so I can't even imagine being a player. if we are not careful, the Birds will become the Sixers. Y'all just be careful with your "concerns"
Do you have the memory of a goldfish? Everyone had concerns last year when they were 10-1 and they turned out to be valid. People are concerned because these are legitimate signs of dysfunction. We don’t want to see the team get “figured out” and obliterated like last year.
@@drJuice23 my take is the end game scenario was exactly like the Atlanta game they blew. They should’ve either went for 4th and long to keep the ball and burn clock or tried the long field goal to make it a 2 score game. By being up 6 and giving the panthers the ball with little time left, they forced their backs to a wall where they had no choice but to use all 4 downs to get the score they needed. If not for the goal line drop, they would’ve succeeded. If they failed and gave the ball up at around midfield they likely would give too much time up for a score, allowing the eagles time to counter.
@ little success with passing and kicking in this game and the game prior is the reason for the punt, I get what your saying, the conservative game plan led to the end of game scenario.
@@drJuice23 there’s risk in any strategy here, unfortunately. In a day where the defense couldn’t get the panthers off the field with 3 downs, i felt giving them a drive with 4 was suicide. They were this 🤏 close to blowing it, but they got lucky.
I watch this Pod to hear specifics from two all-access guys tell me about what goes on in the inside. Who is scripting the first twenty plays? Moore, or Sirianni? Why is Gainwell getting three or four series with no Saquon? Why do they think Saquon isn't a pass catcher. Was Sweat injured? Why is Milton Williams losing snaps to a rookie?
Guys, the defense held the Panthers to their fewest yards and points in 5 weeks... Hurts protected the ball and still equated for three total TD's. They did not need flashy that game. At all. They needed consistency and that for them the game. We can criticize the flow but Jalen made the right choices and protected the ball.
Why it gotta be hate?? I get he our QB but you are soft bro... We can absolutely criticize Jalen .. can't even get brown goin.. one of the best there is..
@@ryancampbell1847Goal to get #11 going or win the game? - which they did … lol 😂 and #11 was going last game … does Jalen need to play more consistent.. yes… does he deserve the hate and all the stuff I’ve been reading, no .. 😒
All that matters is that we're winning!! I almost want us to lose a game before the playoffs.. just to get it out of our system.. but that 1 seed is way too important.. and no time for anybody to get selfish about getting the ball.. I get we need to be better in the passing game but winning is everything!! Let's keep it going baby!! 🦅
Conservative play from Jalen .. held on ball to be risk adverse and avoid turnovers which he did - ZERO turnovers! Took chances when he needed to! Does he need to play better, yes .. but come on he was dropping them into #11 just last week - lol hahah why you should wait to comment - literally my take @ 10:55
Nd God forbid we anotha first round exit, maybe even wit a bye at dat, it’s time to trade him. He gotta fix his mechanics elsewhere we ain’t got time to waste
We're seeing an all-time great season from a running back (proof that this is really what this team has been missing all along) and all we can talk about is how Jalen looked going 14 for 21 for 108 yards and 2 touchdowns, 1 rushing. Can or should the passing game be better ? Yes. I would suggest, however, that making throws when they need to be made should be considered an elite-level skill as well. 27 for 35 shouldn't be the only barometer for success (winning).
A win next week is 10 straight, nothing to sneeze at . If Superman stays healthy, nobody is beating us. A first drive TD against the Steelers wd be good for my blood pressure. We need "Jake the Make". Off game, this team will fix it. Dallas sucks Go Birds!!!!
While this was a tight game, Carolina has played many good teams very tight. I think this a case where Carolina is better than many people think more than the Eagles were bad. They’ve won NINE in a row folks
maybe Hurts doing line calls will help his long term development-but could be detracting his ability to process defenses and find open receivers in the short-term.
It felt like a loss. Maybe I'll cheer up tomorrow. Passing game concern is 9/10. Jake concern is 8.5/10. I'm losing hope fast that Jalen is ever going to get to even a B/B+ level as a passer...
I had feeling the Eagles would play down to the competition especially when the spread was 13.5 and as for Jalen we all know he can get his guys the ball they need to really find a way to get him in a rhythm get him so quick hitters and run some more hurry up offense to start the game he seems to have more success throwing out of a 4 minute offense they seem to throw the passing game out the window like they use to with the run game
@@KingJuice215 not worried about the 1 seed. Just don’t like the fact that they have to play an extra game to get to NFCCG. But the way they’ve played at home…I might prefer they play on the Road
How can Roob say “they just don’t have that many weapons” with a straight face???? They have the best running back in the game and 2 top 15 receivers… who cares how the WR3 or TE is!
Teams know we want to run it. Id like to see more PA amd getting Jalen rolling out of the pocket early in the games. Take shots based off under center PA play. Bootlegs.
Hurts fans act like 2022 is the only year Hurts has played 😂, hey cuz in 2021, 2023, and 2024 Hurts is mid asf... Now he is as bad throwing the ball as Ben Simmons is as shooting the ball
Three best rb in league. Top 3 offensive line. Top 5 r duo. The number one defense in league. How is 83 yards net passing acceptable?? The qb isn't good enough
@@Fr3shMan421was to much time on the clock at that point. You need to acquire first downs there otherwise your giving them the ball with two minutes to win the game. I’d rather of had the 9 yards
@ agreed but that’s why he slid. We on the couch can see that I wasn’t a good idea to slide there but he wasn’t coached up to know that a slide and killing time there doesn’t help. Pass or throw away for a chance to throw on fourth down.
"They just don't have enough weapons" without Goedert. Are you kidding me? If a 250 million dollar QB can't throw for 150 yards consistently with a great WR combo, a great O line, and an elite RB you have a big problem. The excuses for Jalen are nuts. Does anyone remember the weapons Wentz was working with and still getting blasted for his play?
Week after Week Hurts holds the offense back for atleast half the game, takes way to long time find a rhythm or any kind of consistency on the passing game. He's the weakest link on offense.
Man Hurts is scaring me. He does not look like an nfl quarterback right now. If you can't look good with these 2 receivers, you don't belong in the league.
They were getting at least 6 yards every run in the first half. They refused to run it. Receiver route concepts seemed like Brian Johnson last year. No thought put into them.
Was hearing before this game from Jack Fritz on 94.1 that they should rest Saquon and be 'forward-thinking'. Panthers showed you why you can never take a week off in the NFL. Any given sunday, trap games exist. This isnt like any other league, every single loss you take hurts you a lot unless you've literally locked up what you want mathematically. Sick of Philly radio hottakes.
@ryancampbell1847 yeah it's weird. We have this obsession with always throwing down the field. Those crossers are successful but we run like 1 a game. I'd spam that shhh
Oh always ctfu. No excuse cuz Jake has been awful all yr. But as a native it’s always windy in Philly in winter months ❄️ u gotta account for dat beforehand tho
This is the epitome of where we are in the world today. Our running back is making history. Last year EVERYONE was yelling run the ball. So we’re running the ball with GREAT success but that is not enough. Now its pass the ball?????? Passing has risk and earlier in the season, the complaint was too many turnovers. So now because Jalen doesn’t put the ball at risk anymore with “anticipated throws, he’’s less than???? A never happy world is the current status quo where we would complain if we weren’t blowing every team out… smh
Gotta be able to do both come playoff time... Are you confident he could throw us to a win if Barkley shut down?? I sure as hell ain't... If you are I dunno what games you watching this year
@@EaglesTruth That's not possible, passing relies on rhythm and timing, either you focus on passing or focus on rushing. There is no such thing as only passing 15-20 times a game and sustaining massive success. You need high volumes of passing to be a successful passer. So which is it, run the ball or pass the ball? Pass the ball means Saquon goes back to only having 10-12 touches a game instead of 20+
@ unfortunately we are quick to forget that yes, he has in the past and can win with his arm if needed. His assignment has been (after last season and the beginning of this one) to not turn the ball over which he has done well during this winning streak. I’m not saying he’s playing lights out. What I am saying is we will find a reason to criticize the entire team just because they don’t meet “our” expectations. We all have bad days and if we come out on top, let’s just accept that.
Jalen moves in the pocket when he doesn't have to. If u go watch Brady and manning they would just slightly move up or back or left or right, they would always be ready to throw. Hurts moves both his feet and runs a bit in the pocket. It's crazy. He plays scared, he is so worried about INTS AND FUMBLES! Its killing his game. He is WAY over board in my opinion. That's why I'm seeing.
Jalen seems resistant to throw the ball. On the touchdown to Devonta, he looks at AJ, he is open, and then goes to Devonta. It's a TD, but he hesitated on many plays today. He takes an 8 yard sack instead of throwing it out of bounds. He had a few penalties when getting set up at the line. Jalen is a good QB but I think he is limited and we know what he is now. He throws a nice deep Go route, and a slant pass, but outside of that, he doesn't throw often with anticipation. I hope he doesn't hold us back from winning a Super Bowl.
Great game. Pretty much went as I predicted(Close). I thought we win by 10, didn't occur to me that Elliot couldn't make 2 FG's. If you thought this would be a blowout you have not been watching the Panthers. B. Young literally moves as fast as a Cat. If that was Goff we would have had 10 sacks. Otherwise Jalen outplayed him by a mile. Rested Barkley with only 20 carries, now we can concentrate on the Steelers.🦅🦅🦅🦅 We need 1 of the last 4 games to win the Division. I'll add this for folks who think Hurts isn't tops(Roob). We beat the Rams in LA by 17 points. The Bills Allen threw 342 yards today and what? Had 6 TD's 3 passing and lost. I'll take the Eagles and Hurts.
All these idiot fans complaining about Jalen Hurts are just riding the made up narrative that he cant pass from the pocket. thats completely false. you guys were killing him last year for throwing picks and wanting the Eagles to run the ball more. They are doing just that this year and now some of you want him to take chances and air it out just so he will have stats. no. Btw all these people that are saying the passing game regressed are flat out wrong. Smith has been out for two games. Goddard at this point is always in and out of the line up. He doesnt throw for alot of yards but that doesnt mean he cant , he has done it before. Btw you guys said he didnt throw to Goddard and he has been lol. I want to speak on this about Jalen missing throws. All Qbs miss throws. All of them. Herbert missed a wide open WR for a walk in TD early in the Chiefs - Chargers game. Jalens passer rating today was 110. he is the only QB in league history as far as running Qbs go that has had three straight games of 100 or better passer rating and that happened this year. He has made the playoffs every year as the Eagles starter, He made the playoffs with Greg Ward and Jalen Reager as his starting WRs. He went to a Superbowl. Still you guys complain and whine. I am old enough to remember when making the playoffs 2 years in a row was a big deal. Thats how bad it was at times as an Eagles fan. maybe they didnt want to put anything on film for the Steelers game. Did any of you think of that? A win is a win. this isnt college.
Why is everyone scared to criticize Jalen??? Every QB in the league dreams of having weapons like Jalen and he passed for 108 years against the worst defense in the NFL
You are wrong. This comments section proves that Negadelphia chomps at the bit CONSTANTLY to criticize Jalen Hurts. I have never understood the eternal aversion that Negadelphia has towards good things for the team.
@@thebodad3 Dude (or ma'am) stop making up stats to "prove" your point. That's just doubling down on stupidity.... we have enough of that in politics. Sports is supposed to be an escape from that b.s. The Eagles are not 31st in passing. I'd respect your lack of a valid argument if you just came clean about being uncomfortable with Hurts as a starting QB. You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
@ no they literally rank 31st in the NFL in passing yards per game with 180 passing yards per game. A simple google search could’ve kept you front looking stupid brother
@thebodad3 arguing with imbeciles is the trap of the internet. I will leave you to your stupidity... oh yeah... the moon isn't made of cheese, and 2,602 yards on the season has Hurts at 20th, moron. F***ing idiot. Google that.
Im sorry, I like Jalen as a person but im just not sold on him. Hes done a great job game managing this year. I think he can make plays with his legs but there's a reason they're last in pass attempts. Obviously they got the winning formula running the ball with saquon but they also dont want Jalen turning the ball over. A good qb would do alot more with this receiving corp. I know alot of people are fans and are gonna be in his corner but i don't think theyre being objective.
Thats a high school mentality bud. This is a professional sport. Criticism is either warranted or not. The criticism is obviously warranted this year as Hurts has not been impressive.
Fuck all you eagles fans who say to us to turn in our fan card when we’re critical. Like seriously? Hurts is a below average qb (yes I can name 16 other QBs I’d rather have) but that doesn’t mean I don’t want him to improve and prove me wrong.
Nd if we lose in a divisional round after a bye.. den it’s bye bye for Jalen u’d have to trade him. His mechanics needing work in year 4 as a starter is just disturbing
He is so bad this year he has had multiple games of 100 passer rating or above , the only running QB to do so ever. Josh Allen threw for 367 yards and lost. Context is key
@@shawnbrown2726 do you think that passer rating overshadows bad decision making and pocket passing? His average yards per throw is down too. Context is key right?
Here goes the overreacting fans smh yall ain’t tired of doubting Hurts yet, just for him to prove your ass wrong again, and again, and again? Yall love to be miserable, I’m convinced. 11-2!! Keep working. Go Birds
They are 11-2 in spite of his play. The defense and Saquon are the reasons why they are 11-2. Barely cracking 100 yards against subpar defenses deserves criticism.
@@No1believer and yet Josh Allen just threw for 342 and lost. This year, what requires Philly to win isn’t crazy stats from the QB position. Hurts has always said he wants to also beat people with his mind, and although he didn’t have his best night tonight, he’s been doing just that with smart play. The man has 1 turnover since September. This gets overlooked. Turnovers narrow the chance of victory & I’m 1000% sure if he had 6-8 more INTs at this point, we’d have 3-4 more losses
@@jasonr_2017Yes, not turning the ball over is key. However, we cannot sit here with our head in the clouds thinking Jalen is winning games and playing well. Moreover, if we did not have best running back and defense in the league, we would easily have 6-7 losses against bad teams!
@ idk man, give me a guy that can go into Baltimore and get a win against Lamar. Go into Cincy and get a win against Burrow. Go out west & get a win against the same Rams with Puka and Kupp that just beat the Bills today.. I mean I can go on & on. Dude just keeps winning is all I can tell ya
@@jasonr_2017 I sound like a broken record but he is not the reason. The defense and Saquon are the reason(s). They could have easily lost against some of the worst teams in the league (Car, Jax, Cle, NO). The only reason they won those games is because of Saquon and defense. Jalen was straight trash against some of the leagues worst defenses. If you want to think he is winning games, you are fooling yourself. I really hope he improves because we are going to need him to perform come playoff time.
Am i the only one who cant wait for this pod after games lol
Well stop supporting frank keeps asking AJ about his targets trying to start shytt he’s a fucking loser they just want the story they are not real eagles fans
Nope I can’t either!
I tune in after every release! It's nice to have hosts that talks Xs and Os of football rather than trash fluff analysis
one in a million if your lucky.
Only if it's a late game to put myself to sleep with this snorefest.
Roob got that shit on though, looking dapper as hell gentlemen.
Boffum lookin like Preachers ⛪️😂 don’t know why
Stop supporting frank he keeps asking AJ brown about his targets trying to start some shytt mess up eagles chemistry he’s a loser for that
He looks like my grandfather--who was a funeral director at Oliver H. Bair for fifty years.
@@michaelmoya803u sound soft asl, they professionals they can handle questions
@ when you hear shytt about them not fucking with each other don’t wanna hear shytt tfffff they gotta keep asking the same questions starting shyttt
Dicker The Kicker is looking really good right about now!
Bro I had the same thought today 😂
100% correct about Hurts being afraid to throw a pick. He's playing too conservatively.
U self play
I think so man
I dont disagree. Especially late in the game. It felt like he was afraid to let it rip. To Carolinas defense, They have been playing alot better the last few weeks, and They played like they had nothing to loose.
@@dedeee29 You're weird
I am no expert, but I thought the exact same thing! Who am I to judge?🤷🏿♂️
2 weeks ago, it was Nick, now its Jalen... in 2 weeks, it will be AJ.
Eagles fans will be Eagles fans, but we're still 11-2 and on to the Steelers🦅🦅🦅
11-3
Hurts holds on to the ball way too long and seems like he waits until he sees receivers open to throw it instead of anticipating they’ll be open based off the route their running. Very indecisive.
I wonder how our birds would look with a guy like Burrow
16 AND 0
He’s been doing this all year but it seems to be getting worse
@@always.entertaining.people1396 They would be clear best team in the league. The whole team is so stacked.
@@always.entertaining.people1396SB champs
I believe in Jake. It's got to be something mechanical. He's Jake the Make and he's gonna pull through it.
They are going to need to bring someone in on the practice squad to maybe show Elliot that theres a sense of urgency and that he needs to start making FGs. He's no Justin Tucker. Elliot has made some big kicks however he was never on the level as Tucker in which he has earned the right to struggle.
Eagles have giving Elliot enough grace.. now its either get in check or next man up. Cant be missing PATS like that. We got lucky there was an offsides penalty. Unacceptable.
Need to get a guy in here for the playoffs... Maybe some competition be good for him
I think he’s hurt
Dave: "Darius Slay"
Roob: ".....Slay"
Every time lmao. I love how consistent Roob is
Only thing that worries me is that is offense looks so anemic at times. That's not good! And injuries can get this defense beat. I know it's tough after what they had to do last week. But today shown a few flaws.
Adam Thielen is the first slot receiver I’ve seen shake Coop a few times. We ran a lot of zone but when he was locked up on him his footwork was impeccable.
It’s mostly bc I haven’t seen that team play yet this season and just assumed Theilen was washed I guess but wow hat tip to that guy for still getting it done on a crappy team.
Bro ive never seen a city or analyst overreact like this. Its so absurd bro they just had two madsive games back to back and have big-none next week you have days like this lmaoo
You’re right. Philly IS truly schizophrenic about the Eagles!! 😅😅
If you assumed this would be a blow out win, you need to check your expectations at the door. This team has played their asses off for 9 wins in a row and got the W today. This team dominated the Rams who just put 44 up on Buffalo in a win. R E L A X
Saquon dominated the rams (with 255 rushing yards). Hurts and this passing game need to get it together
Thank you. The Panthers almost beat the Chiefs as well.
Yea Barkley dominated the rams. Run game = ball control
@@EaglesTruth you literally saw Jalen Hurts go 27/38 for 304 yards, 1 TD, no picks, 71% completion in a Super Bowl. The guy set records with his rushing TD's. Quit hating on Hurts because your expectations of what winning "should" look like, aren't being met. GO BIRDS🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Gentlemen, both looking sharp!
Hurts looks like he's regressed back to his early years, super hesitant to throw & quick to pull it down for a run.
It's nice that he's not turning the ball over but sooner or later this lack of execution is gonna cost us the season.
What on Gds Earth would You know about any One Players role in Team Effort yielding 9 Straight Victories. Shut you Face about Shit you don't know about.
You're not "US"....US doesn't sit on Ass criticizing what You know nothing About. Ho root for Cowboys...u r NOT part of "US".. US are Winner u r LOSER
Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one that can see that the QB is holding this offense back
@xBUDDYxVSG there's Overbrook School for the Blind down there in West Philadelphia obviously you don't know much about football if you can't see that hurts is a wonderful quarterback and your stupid seemingly visual observations are horseshit dog s*** and b*******
@xBUDDYxVSG you hold yourself and diddle a ..lot
This comment section is wild 😅... 3 total tds NO turnovers! Remember last season when we had two receivers over 1000 yds... we lost! Passing over 30 times a game is not his strength. We are a run furst team, thats our identity. Jalen is like a point guard, get the ball to your playmakers and dont turn it over. And has excelled in that role in the past 10 games. Hes playing within the system and the TEAM is winning. For example just last night Josh Allen scored 6 tds and the TEAM LOST! OUR QB says it all the time... keep the main thing the main thing. Overall the entire team had a bad game. It happens, but they found a way to win.
OMG… Common sense in a RUclips comments section. Must be a blue moon!!! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Let’s chalk this up to a bad game that we were able to win. That proverbial trap game but we won. The guys know what to do to fix it. Let’s not get negative. We are still winning but as Mailata said they need to study this and get back to how they truly do things. Go Eagles!!🦅
Exactly. People are acting as if the Eagles were happy about the way they played.
The good news is if Philly figures out the passing game they are winning the superbowl
Thanks John Madden. “If they play great in all phases of the game they won’t lose!”
@@denimchicken104”When you drop footballs, it’s bad always” - Mike Quick
@@denimchicken104"The key for the defense, is to play good defense" -John Madden
None of what Jalen’s doing wrong is new. He’s always gripped the ball too long. He’s never been able to get past his first and sometimes second read. He’s never targeted the middle of the field. It’s always hero ball throws or scrambles. Saquon and our D is going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting in the post season.
Some days are better than others. This was a very bad day. Maybe his worst. He failed to do his job & refused to throw the ball to wide open guys hes looking right at
Was this your opinion when the team had two 1,000 yard receivers? Tell the truth.
@ when you lead the nfl in longest time to throw by quite a bit & take more sacks than almost any other QB despite having the greatest O line & time to sack… its not as much an opinion as its a statistical fact that he holds onto the ball too long. Jalens a great playmaker & he had a bad game its OK… still you’d like to see some improvement in these areas
@Tmindful182 I came to this podcast from the New York Jets podcast... seriously, Negadelphia needs to count its blessings!
@@9japopart719 jets need a new owner!
Reub yawning during the podcast,
@ 33:20, is a tradition unlike any other. Go Birds 🦅
If doesn’t throw for over 250 yards it’s a problem, anything to say something negative. We’ve always been gonna be alright once we reach the playoffs
Like last year?
kickers are like hockey goalies. it's all about confidence. once it's gone it's gone until he plays with another team.
For the love of the football gods, they need more under center boot action in this offense.
gosh! we've won 11 games and I've never heard the Philly media being positive. Its exhausting being a fan so I can't even imagine being a player. if we are not careful, the Birds will become the Sixers. Y'all just be careful with your "concerns"
Sixers and Eagles organization ran completely different from top to bottom
Do you have the memory of a goldfish? Everyone had concerns last year when they were 10-1 and they turned out to be valid. People are concerned because these are legitimate signs of dysfunction. We don’t want to see the team get “figured out” and obliterated like last year.
Have you never listened to Philly media? They’re always over critical
@@denimchicken104And much like last year there were plenty of "why people so negative, a win is a win" after being 10-1. Then, the wheels fell off.
Can I just say Baun may not have had a stand out game today but the dude is consistent.
He had 11 tackles and a sack. He and CJGJ and Saquon were literally the only people that played well
I disagree. I believe buan played a very solid game, one of the few players that probably graded out well
I’m glad we punted, great end of game execution by defense and ST
What game were you watching? They drove down the entire field and had a wide open game leading touchdown right there had it not been dropped.
@ what’s your take?
@@drJuice23 my take is the end game scenario was exactly like the Atlanta game they blew. They should’ve either went for 4th and long to keep the ball and burn clock or tried the long field goal to make it a 2 score game. By being up 6 and giving the panthers the ball with little time left, they forced their backs to a wall where they had no choice but to use all 4 downs to get the score they needed. If not for the goal line drop, they would’ve succeeded.
If they failed and gave the ball up at around midfield they likely would give too much time up for a score, allowing the eagles time to counter.
@ little success with passing and kicking in this game and the game prior is the reason for the punt, I get what your saying, the conservative game plan led to the end of game scenario.
@@drJuice23 there’s risk in any strategy here, unfortunately. In a day where the defense couldn’t get the panthers off the field with 3 downs, i felt giving them a drive with 4 was suicide. They were this 🤏 close to blowing it, but they got lucky.
I saw you Dave - photobombing Roob’s postgame show, locker room tunnel cam segment
😅
I watch this Pod to hear specifics from two all-access guys tell me about what goes on in the inside. Who is scripting the first twenty plays? Moore, or Sirianni? Why is Gainwell getting three or four series with no Saquon? Why do they think Saquon isn't a pass catcher. Was Sweat injured? Why is Milton Williams losing snaps to a rookie?
It looks like Nick has been the 1st quarter play caller for the past two seasons at least
The Eagles haven't played good at home this season, but the Eagles can go on the road, and win in the play off,
The irony
Slay was beaten badly all game...Especially by Thielen,but when it was the most important,he made a Big Play💪🦅
Barkley had a significantly higher yards per carry average than Hurt’s yards per attempt average. That says a lot. They should have run the ball more.
Why wasn’t there the usual 4 man panel right after the game???
Guys, the defense held the Panthers to their fewest yards and points in 5 weeks... Hurts protected the ball and still equated for three total TD's. They did not need flashy that game. At all. They needed consistency and that for them the game. We can criticize the flow but Jalen made the right choices and protected the ball.
Hurts haters are sad people by nature. Prayers for you all, haha
Calling every bit of criticism hate is a low iq take.
Why it gotta be hate?? I get he our QB but you are soft bro... We can absolutely criticize Jalen .. can't even get brown goin.. one of the best there is..
Who hates him? Maybe he just has obvious flaws. 100 yards passing? Is AJ what you call a hater?
@@ryancampbell1847Goal to get #11 going or win the game? - which they did … lol 😂 and #11 was going last game … does Jalen need to play more consistent.. yes… does he deserve the hate and all the stuff I’ve been reading, no .. 😒
They EAT
On 2nd and short, give Jalen the opportunity to throw some mid to long throws
I’ve been saying this. It’s basic football strategy, but they never do it
All that matters is that we're winning!! I almost want us to lose a game before the playoffs.. just to get it out of our system.. but that 1 seed is way too important.. and no time for anybody to get selfish about getting the ball.. I get we need to be better in the passing game but winning is everything!! Let's keep it going baby!! 🦅
I’m concerned Hurts doesn’t know how to anticipate or read a blitz especially when safety comes up and down
U ate Pineapple thorns and Macadamia shells
@ 😂
Conservative play from Jalen .. held on ball to be risk adverse and avoid turnovers which he did - ZERO turnovers! Took chances when he needed to! Does he need to play better, yes .. but come on he was dropping them into #11 just last week - lol hahah why you should wait to comment - literally my take @ 10:55
THIS TEAM WILL GO AS FAR AS JALEN HURTS TAKES US....😢😢😢😢😢
God I hope not 🤦♂️
God I hope not 🤦♂️
Nd God forbid we anotha first round exit, maybe even wit a bye at dat, it’s time to trade him. He gotta fix his mechanics elsewhere we ain’t got time to waste
They said the same in 2022
We're seeing an all-time great season from a running back (proof that this is really what this team has been missing all along) and all we can talk about is how Jalen looked going 14 for 21 for 108 yards and 2 touchdowns, 1 rushing.
Can or should the passing game be better ? Yes. I would suggest, however, that making throws when they need to be made should be considered an elite-level skill as well. 27 for 35 shouldn't be the only barometer for success (winning).
The +12 line was a hint from Vegas that this wouldnt be a blow out
Huh?
@@markdee3179 it was a trap line, people who bet the eagles to cover 12 points were suckers
God bless everyone. 1st quarter problems continue.
A win next week is 10 straight, nothing to sneeze at . If Superman stays healthy, nobody is beating us. A first drive TD against the Steelers wd be good for my blood pressure. We need "Jake the Make". Off game, this team will fix it. Dallas sucks Go Birds!!!!
I think hurts can’t see over the line of scrimmage. Even when Jalen handed the ball off to saquon in the red zone it seem lethargic and week!
What is WEEK? R U that Stupid?
You're so weak that your weakamundously Weak ya poopie
While this was a tight game, Carolina has played many good teams very tight. I think this a case where Carolina is better than many people think more than the Eagles were bad. They’ve won NINE in a row folks
maybe Hurts doing line calls will help his long term development-but could be detracting his ability to process defenses and find open receivers in the short-term.
I think its a noticable part of the 1st quarter slowdown.. wonder if we see any improvement when we face the divisional opponents again in a few weeks
It felt like a loss. Maybe I'll cheer up tomorrow. Passing game concern is 9/10. Jake concern is 8.5/10. I'm losing hope fast that Jalen is ever going to get to even a B/B+ level as a passer...
I’d settle for C
In the NFL, win and move on. Enjoy each win, they don’t come easy.
I'm concerned. At how stupid and smelly u r
McNabb was never scared to throw
I had feeling the Eagles would play down to the competition especially when the spread was 13.5 and as for Jalen we all know he can get his guys the ball they need to really find a way to get him in a rhythm get him so quick hitters and run some more hurry up offense to start the game he seems to have more success throwing out of a 4 minute offense they seem to throw the passing game out the window like they use to with the run game
The Eagles are better on the Road then at Home 🤷♂️
Which we have to rectify if we bouta get a #1 seed
@@KingJuice215 not worried about the 1 seed. Just don’t like the fact that they have to play an extra game to get to NFCCG. But the way they’ve played at home…I might prefer they play on the Road
Still wit Hurts
How can Roob say “they just don’t have that many weapons” with a straight face???? They have the best running back in the game and 2 top 15 receivers… who cares how the WR3 or TE is!
I think Jalen just doesn’t wanna force anything but he’s gotta let it rip am trust his readings n trust himself cause his guys are gonna get his back
I wonder if there was some residual wear and tear after facing BAL. Often when 2 physical teams go head to head, one or both lose the following week.
Teams know we want to run it. Id like to see more PA amd getting Jalen rolling out of the pocket early in the games. Take shots based off under center PA play. Bootlegs.
We really could utilize the boot action more. Pitch the ball short or take off. Seems like it should be part of JHurt’s bread and butter.
Go Iggles!
Question: What is the record of teams the week after they play the Baltimore Ravens?
Hurts fans act like 2022 is the only year Hurts has played 😂, hey cuz in 2021, 2023, and 2024 Hurts is mid asf... Now he is as bad throwing the ball as Ben Simmons is as shooting the ball
Hurts has to throw the ball. Receivers are open. 🤨😡
Hurts will be fine, he’ll figure it out….he is special and a lotta yall are gonna have to eat ur words🦅🦅
Three best rb in league. Top 3 offensive line. Top 5 r duo. The number one defense in league. How is 83 yards net passing acceptable?? The qb isn't good enough
Sliding down for an eight yard sack suggests the quarterback is extremely concerned about not turning the ball over.
I think it was a 9 yard sack, but yeah, he was playing very scared out there. Could’ve easily thrown that ball away.
He slid so he can kill time off the clock. Smh how did u not know that.
@@Fr3shMan421was to much time on the clock at that point. You need to acquire first downs there otherwise your giving them the ball with two minutes to win the game. I’d rather of had the 9 yards
@ agreed but that’s why he slid. We on the couch can see that I wasn’t a good idea to slide there but he wasn’t coached up to know that a slide and killing time there doesn’t help. Pass or throw away for a chance to throw on fourth down.
He needs to throw the ball away
If we have to rely on the passing game (aka Hurts) then we’re effed. That’s the takeaway.
You suck
@ possibly.
But so does Hurts as a passer so
He Can Still Play Slay.
"They just don't have enough weapons" without Goedert. Are you kidding me? If a 250 million dollar QB can't throw for 150 yards consistently with a great WR combo, a great O line, and an elite RB you have a big problem. The excuses for Jalen are nuts. Does anyone remember the weapons Wentz was working with and still getting blasted for his play?
Week after Week Hurts holds the offense back for atleast half the game, takes way to long time find a rhythm or any kind of consistency on the passing game. He's the weakest link on offense.
You smell really bad and also u stink poopily
I feel like they thought it should've been easy to beat Carolina
Hurts was bad today but the offensive line didn't have a great day pass blocking either.
Man Hurts is scaring me. He does not look like an nfl quarterback right now. If you can't look good with these 2 receivers, you don't belong in the league.
Man ain’t that the truth!! He won’t even try to through their way I mean even if you throw an interception just try!!
How do you look bad with 2 TDs and no turnovers? just enjoy the win and give the panthers credit
@@beanbryant6830you really don’t know what you’re looking at
Fact dat smitty looked mad before AND after a TD.. nd u neva seen Devonta mad bout anything, speaks VOLUMES 🎚️
@@beanbryant6830Even on the TD to Smitty he missed the easier wide open throw to AJ.
They were getting at least 6 yards every run in the first half. They refused to run it. Receiver route concepts seemed like Brian Johnson last year. No thought put into them.
Does Jake have an injury??? Something is off.
Yall mention cooper dejean having a bad game and the hyoe dying down a little but no one mentions quinyon mitchell having yet another lock down game
Was hearing before this game from Jack Fritz on 94.1 that they should rest Saquon and be 'forward-thinking'. Panthers showed you why you can never take a week off in the NFL. Any given sunday, trap games exist. This isnt like any other league, every single loss you take hurts you a lot unless you've literally locked up what you want mathematically. Sick of Philly radio hottakes.
Eagles need to start working out kickers. It will at least make Jake Elliott get back to the lab to see what on Earth is going on
I wonder why we don't run more crossers and stuff underneath. We still doing this "lets wait 10 yards or more down the field". Get a rhythm
Especially with brown.. dude can turn a slant into a TD... No short passing game at all and it's gonna hurt us come playoff time
@ryancampbell1847 yeah it's weird. We have this obsession with always throwing down the field. Those crossers are successful but we run like 1 a game. I'd spam that shhh
Jalen, while playing decent is definitely holding the the offense back. He can't throw a receiver open and is making bad reads.
31:31 WOW. Ok this is good to know and is very very concerning
They need to run screen plays
Use Brandon Mann as a punter and kicker?
Stop trying to mess up the eagles chemistry yaw keep asking AJ brown about his targets trying to start some shytt
Was it as windy as Nick claimed at his presser?
Oh always ctfu. No excuse cuz Jake has been awful all yr. But as a native it’s always windy in Philly in winter months ❄️ u gotta account for dat beforehand tho
This is the epitome of where we are in the world today. Our running back is making history. Last year EVERYONE was yelling run the ball. So we’re running the ball with GREAT success but that is not enough. Now its pass the ball?????? Passing has risk and earlier in the season, the complaint was too many turnovers. So now because Jalen doesn’t put the ball at risk anymore with “anticipated throws, he’’s less than???? A never happy world is the current status quo where we would complain if we weren’t blowing every team out… smh
You don’t understand. I’d personally rather then run the ball MORE then they did today. But when they do pass… hurts needs to be better.
Gotta be able to do both come playoff time... Are you confident he could throw us to a win if Barkley shut down?? I sure as hell ain't... If you are I dunno what games you watching this year
@@EaglesTruth That's not possible, passing relies on rhythm and timing, either you focus on passing or focus on rushing. There is no such thing as only passing 15-20 times a game and sustaining massive success. You need high volumes of passing to be a successful passer. So which is it, run the ball or pass the ball? Pass the ball means Saquon goes back to only having 10-12 touches a game instead of 20+
@@ryancampbell1847 He did it last year, he balled out in the SB. Stop acting like we don't know if Hurts can pass the ball or not it's so stupid.
@ unfortunately we are quick to forget that yes, he has in the past and can win with his arm if needed. His assignment has been (after last season and the beginning of this one) to not turn the ball over which he has done well during this winning streak. I’m not saying he’s playing lights out. What I am saying is we will find a reason to criticize the entire team just because they don’t meet “our” expectations. We all have bad days and if we come out on top, let’s just accept that.
It’s obvious what’s wrong. I have been saying it for years. We don’t have a qb that can throw.
Jalen moves in the pocket when he doesn't have to. If u go watch Brady and manning they would just slightly move up or back or left or right, they would always be ready to throw. Hurts moves both his feet and runs a bit in the pocket. It's crazy. He plays scared, he is so worried about INTS AND FUMBLES! Its killing his game. He is WAY over board in my opinion. That's why I'm seeing.
Jalen seems resistant to throw the ball. On the touchdown to Devonta, he looks at AJ, he is open, and then goes to Devonta. It's a TD, but he hesitated on many plays today. He takes an 8 yard sack instead of throwing it out of bounds. He had a few penalties when getting set up at the line.
Jalen is a good QB but I think he is limited and we know what he is now. He throws a nice deep Go route, and a slant pass, but outside of that, he doesn't throw often with anticipation.
I hope he doesn't hold us back from winning a Super Bowl.
2008 Birds beat Vikings, Giants before loosing to Cardinals.
Great game. Pretty much went as I predicted(Close). I thought we win by 10, didn't occur to me that Elliot couldn't make 2 FG's. If you thought this would be a blowout you have not been watching the Panthers. B. Young literally moves as fast as a Cat. If that was Goff we would have had 10 sacks. Otherwise Jalen outplayed him by a mile. Rested Barkley with only 20 carries, now we can concentrate on the Steelers.🦅🦅🦅🦅 We need 1 of the last 4 games to win the Division.
I'll add this for folks who think Hurts isn't tops(Roob). We beat the Rams in LA by 17 points. The Bills Allen threw 342 yards today and what? Had 6 TD's 3 passing and lost. I'll take the Eagles and Hurts.
Hurts did NOT outplay Young today. Stop it. Learn to understand what you’re seeing. Hurts is the problem.
the O has to get all weapons involved good teams do
After today's game, Jalen Haters should have the grace to shut the hell up.
Wins a win but need offense to be more consistent. Sign BAUN!
All these idiot fans complaining about Jalen Hurts are just riding the made up narrative that he cant pass from the pocket. thats completely false. you guys were killing him last year for throwing picks and wanting the Eagles to run the ball more. They are doing just that this year and now some of you want him to take chances and air it out just so he will have stats. no. Btw all these people that are saying the passing game regressed are flat out wrong. Smith has been out for two games. Goddard at this point is always in and out of the line up. He doesnt throw for alot of yards but that doesnt mean he cant , he has done it before. Btw you guys said he didnt throw to Goddard and he has been lol. I want to speak on this about Jalen missing throws. All Qbs miss throws. All of them. Herbert missed a wide open WR for a walk in TD early in the Chiefs - Chargers game. Jalens passer rating today was 110. he is the only QB in league history as far as running Qbs go that has had three straight games of 100 or better passer rating and that happened this year. He has made the playoffs every year as the Eagles starter, He made the playoffs with Greg Ward and Jalen Reager as his starting WRs. He went to a Superbowl. Still you guys complain and whine. I am old enough to remember when making the playoffs 2 years in a row was a big deal. Thats how bad it was at times as an Eagles fan. maybe they didnt want to put anything on film for the Steelers game. Did any of you think of that? A win is a win. this isnt college.
Jalen could of lost us the game, Jake could of lost us the game, and for once nick didn’t lose us the game
The nfl changed the ball to make it easier for these bad QBs to throw and it's affected the kickers. Why isn't this being reported?
I have two words: Play-Action
Why is everyone scared to criticize Jalen???
Every QB in the league dreams of having weapons like Jalen and he passed for 108 years against the worst defense in the NFL
You are wrong. This comments section proves that Negadelphia chomps at the bit CONSTANTLY to criticize Jalen Hurts. I have never understood the eternal aversion that Negadelphia has towards good things for the team.
@ we’re 31st in the nfl in passing. So obviously his passing isn’t good for the team.
@@thebodad3 Dude (or ma'am) stop making up stats to "prove" your point. That's just doubling down on stupidity.... we have enough of that in politics. Sports is supposed to be an escape from that b.s. The Eagles are not 31st in passing. I'd respect your lack of a valid argument if you just came clean about being uncomfortable with Hurts as a starting QB. You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
@ no they literally rank 31st in the NFL in passing yards per game with 180 passing yards per game. A simple google search could’ve kept you front looking stupid brother
@thebodad3 arguing with imbeciles is the trap of the internet. I will leave you to your stupidity... oh yeah... the moon isn't made of cheese, and 2,602 yards on the season has Hurts at 20th, moron.
F***ing idiot. Google that.
Im sorry, I like Jalen as a person but im just not sold on him. Hes done a great job game managing this year. I think he can make plays with his legs but there's a reason they're last in pass attempts. Obviously they got the winning formula running the ball with saquon but they also dont want Jalen turning the ball over. A good qb would do alot more with this receiving corp. I know alot of people are fans and are gonna be in his corner but i don't think theyre being objective.
I'm sold on 1 fact. You're Stupid
I just want all the Jalen Hurts haters to keep that energy. Yall quick to hate, so stay on that side.
Hurts haters have always been and will always be
It’s not hating to notice that he’s not a good passer right now. He’s not.
Thats a high school mentality bud. This is a professional sport. Criticism is either warranted or not. The criticism is obviously warranted this year as Hurts has not been impressive.
Fuck all you eagles fans who say to us to turn in our fan card when we’re critical. Like seriously? Hurts is a below average qb (yes I can name 16 other QBs I’d rather have) but that doesn’t mean I don’t want him to improve and prove me wrong.
Nd if we lose in a divisional round after a bye.. den it’s bye bye for Jalen u’d have to trade him. His mechanics needing work in year 4 as a starter is just disturbing
Jalen Hurts must STILL be concussed.
Agreed. There is something off with his processing. He’s missing guys.
😊😅😂😅...for last 2 years
I have been saying he can’t throw for 3 years. Why are you surprised.
He is playing terrible. The only bright spot is he's not turning the ball over which is big Don't get me wrong.
He had 3tds.. dudes will blame jalen regardless ..even if no one is open.. its crazy
AJ Brown was open most of the game and wasn't getting the looks.
He bad you can’t have 118 ,108 and less than 150 yards 3 weeks ago
What about the 3tds?
@@lifeisfortheliving2070do you think 3TDs is impressive for our level of talent on offense? Against the Panthers?
He is so bad this year he has had multiple games of 100 passer rating or above , the only running QB to do so ever. Josh Allen threw for 367 yards and lost. Context is key
@@shawnbrown2726 do you think that passer rating overshadows bad decision making and pocket passing? His average yards per throw is down too. Context is key right?
Here goes the overreacting fans smh yall ain’t tired of doubting Hurts yet, just for him to prove your ass wrong again, and again, and again? Yall love to be miserable, I’m convinced. 11-2!! Keep working. Go Birds
They are 11-2 in spite of his play. The defense and Saquon are the reasons why they are 11-2. Barely cracking 100 yards against subpar defenses deserves criticism.
@@No1believer and yet Josh Allen just threw for 342 and lost. This year, what requires Philly to win isn’t crazy stats from the QB position. Hurts has always said he wants to also beat people with his mind, and although he didn’t have his best night tonight, he’s been doing just that with smart play. The man has 1 turnover since September. This gets overlooked. Turnovers narrow the chance of victory & I’m 1000% sure if he had 6-8 more INTs at this point, we’d have 3-4 more losses
@@jasonr_2017Yes, not turning the ball over is key. However, we cannot sit here with our head in the clouds thinking Jalen is winning games and playing well. Moreover, if we did not have best running back and defense in the league, we would easily have 6-7 losses against bad teams!
@ idk man, give me a guy that can go into Baltimore and get a win against Lamar. Go into Cincy and get a win against Burrow. Go out west & get a win against the same Rams with Puka and Kupp that just beat the Bills today.. I mean I can go on & on. Dude just keeps winning is all I can tell ya
@@jasonr_2017 I sound like a broken record but he is not the reason. The defense and Saquon are the reason(s). They could have easily lost against some of the worst teams in the league (Car, Jax, Cle, NO). The only reason they won those games is because of Saquon and defense. Jalen was straight trash against some of the leagues worst defenses. If you want to think he is winning games, you are fooling yourself. I really hope he improves because we are going to need him to perform come playoff time.