The Meaning Behind Asajj Ventress' New Symbol
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Asajj Ventress has come back to life according to the new trailer for the Final Season of The Bad Batch. She appears with a yellow lightsaber wearing a new set of armor with snake pauldron on her shoulder. This serpent sigil is symbolic of the change that Asajj has gone through from Sith Assassin to independent bounty hunter
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I wonder if her symbol is meant to be a broken Ouroboros where the serpent no longer eating its own tail over and over but now has stopped the cycle and moves inward towards its center.
I just realized that Ventress never had Sith eyes. She never truly believed in the ways of The Sith. I think she was so dangerous because she saw The Force as just another tool in her arsenal.
I honestly wish to see Quinlan Vos again. He was badass af in the Legends Republic comics. It's basically a crime how Disney completely forgot him even though it's stated he survived Order 66
He is mentioned as a part of the Path in Kenobi, them being the group that helps jedi and refugees evade the empire. Disney knows he exists at the least, just a matter of time.
It's not a crime, TCW Vos is not the same as Legends Vos. So nothing they can do post-Order 66 will live up to his Legends character.
The problem with Vos is that when you dig into legends. He's really not that good of a person. When Aayla Secura lost her memory for a time she was placed with Vos while he was under cover rooting out some crime ring or another (I think in Legends he was supposed to be a Sentinel when originally created.) aaaaaaaaaaand she fell in love with him, and he let it happen and a relationship form until she regained her memory. He took advantage of her state, and that is one of the single worst things a lone Jedi can do to another. Manipulate and take advantage of another, particularly when knowing that she was a fellow jedi.
@@Meravokas well i’m not too well-versed in legends but it sounds like that was just one writer’s interpretation of quinlan which doesn’t necessarily mean anything. if he’s been written by multiple writers as consistently engaging in amoral behavior then yeah, that’s just part of his character. but if you don’t like one random writer’s version of him and liked his character just about everywhere else, then f that writer! ignore him and move on, don’t let that stop you from enjoying the character. it could’ve easily just been one instance of bad writing so there’s no reason to act like one writer’s word is sacred when it’s not. characters are often inconsistent when treated by multiple writers, especially in star wars
They gave us TCW appearances. He was still pretty cool there, at least.
I'm thinking one theory for her survival could be that because she gave her life for another, the force gave her the same life or death choice that Ahsoka was given. Afterward they faked her burial to keep her actual survival a secret. She is now working for the Hidden Path with Quinlan Vos.
So working for Cere and Cordova?
I think it'll just be a bait and switch. There will be some kind of flashback that shows Ventress's past, maybe they meet Quinlin Voss and he is telling them about it.
@@baki484 Possibly. This takes place about 2-3 years before the events in Fallen Order.
Not a bad theory at all.
If Ventress is playing the role of the Son that will be a twist we would have never expected.
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Darth Vindican: "I never thought I would ever see Korriban, the planet of my ancestors. It is so beautiful that I can't help but cry. You know, Malgus? Maybe love and all those emotions we were taught to hate weren't so bad in the...Why am I seeing my headless body?"
I wouldn't mind a story where Ventress crossed paths with Merrin, sure it'd be another case of the world feeling too small, but it'd be sick. As far as I recall, she's never been shown to use Nightsister magick right? Well imagine Merrin teaching her the basics of the craft, and how badass she'd be with that additional set of skills.
Boba Fett: Listen! You have NO idea who you're talking to!! I've been in charge of this whole operation sinc- (begins chocking)
Asajj Ventress: YOU have no idea who YOU are talking to.
Filoni is so anti-Boba. Either throws him under the bus or ghosts him whenever he gets the chance. Jango would’ve killed Ventress, just like how he handled Dooku’s former apprentice Komari Vosa. It’s a shame to see what Disney has done to his son.
@@ihaveafettfetish9348facts, old legends Boba was another type of beast
@@ihaveafettfetish9348he was a kid during this time. What do you think, he will do to a force sensitive, that was align to the dark side?
I’m still curious on what causes her and Obi-Wan to be flirting with each other while trying to kill each other
9:06 such a vivid story about Ventress and Quinlan. I pray it makes it to live action, and at the very least animation.
Nah it definitely shouldn’t be live-action, we don’t need another Ahsoka situation
@@thevoidlord1796 you’re entitled to an opinion even if it’s wrong.
Asajj Ventress is one of my favorite Star Wars characters. I truly hope Filoni makes this work.
I always loved Asajj character. It's so profound and so well built/written (apart how did she came back from the dead, but it's Disney, get used to it...). Really glad we'll be seeing her again. Never thought she was pure evil, but rather a product of her choices and still his, but due to her master trying to kill her because Palp thought they're growing too strong together and the misadventures with the zabrack brothers, plus her story with vos, I guess she now sees things more on her optic and make choices accordingly to her priorities and no more of others - in a way, a grey jedi now (not even a dark jedi would be near a definition of the new Ventress. And ofc she's still badass as ever but not being slave to the dark side. Really nice video. Thanks
Hope to see the Krayt’s Claw (Boba Fett’s Bounty Hunter team) in bad batch
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I love Ventress’ story - the character development is well written and beautiful especially in Dark Disciple.
Ventress is the Mother of Enfys Nest, thats the mask she wears.listen to the Enfys Nest theme and then Nightsister theme. Quinlon Vos is Enfys Nest Father. It explains why Enfys Nest survived Maul's Crimson Dawn
Holy fuck I never knew that is that confirmed or just a theory??
What
It would be funny the baldest woman in star wars giving birth to the one with the longest curls in star wars xd, I know is stupid
But do you really think night sisters and humans? ( Idk if Quin lan voss is human bc star wars usually makes human races aliens, like with mace) well do you think It's posible for them to breed a normal human? Twileks and humans at least have genetical mixes ok the color of hair and eyes
@@nunocabreracanceloQuinlan Voss is a member of a race called Kiffar, and Ventress is both Dathomiri nightsister and Zabrak, apparently. Would be a weird mix, I doubt Nest is their kid.
I remember the comment from the other day blowing my mind. You must have gotten a million views and comments. Sweet recovery. Love the content. Keep up the great work.
Ventress: Reappears in the Bad Batch, a show that takes place years after her death in the Dark Disciple novel
Christie Golden: "WHAT...THE...F*CK"
My thought exactly. Again Disney ist screwing Up the timeline of These books for cash
Christie Golden actually seems quite supportive of the return of Ventress. The events of Dark Disciple isn't being retconned thankfully.
@@seb5542what she said?
Loved the wisdom today Alan, have a great one and thanks for the content!
Part of me kinda hopes the reason she survived is cause Dooku got sentimental and couldn't bring himself to kill her or something like that. Wouldn't be the first time he's defied Sidious' orders given how he spared Obi-Wan.
The way you've framed it, a collision between Omega and Ventriss was so inevitable even death can't stop it. There's a duality between them that can definitely be explored, whether that turns Star Wars canon into a shattered glass of Elsewords, so be it. When I first saw the trailers, I was very much "wait, wha-?" but the idea of her being present in Bad Batch, whether Dark Disciple gets canon dropped or whatever, in the end was just too compelling, and the snippets of footage were wild.
Its a crooked swirl…”She’s awake” in episode 1 of true detective season 4 refers to asaaj ventress. Yellow lightsaber = yellow king. Star wars, true detective, battlestar galactica
Quick reference:
Sigil 1:25 is a city in the D&D multiverse (phonetically sounds like: sig-ill)
Sigil is also a pictograph, icon, or mark (phonetically sounds like: sid-jil)
If Allen isn't a D&D Planescape player, then this certainly illustrates how the pronunciation of the setting's city could easily occur, accidentally, by one of the developers way back in the day.
Ventress’s character arc ended in a good place at the end of dark disciple. It’s cool to see her show up again but it needs to be for a good reason. This happens way too much nowadays
The producer's of the bad batch have stated dark disciple is not being retconned and is still canon
“Venomous Sperm” caught me so off guard 😂
Yeah I was like woah woah woah hey hey hey
Jedie don't want their recruits miss their mommies so they take them before they can remember their mommies.
But lea Could remember Padme through the Force. Could any Jedie kids remember their parents throw the forces? YES . In comics Quigon had Friend who left to find her father she visions of being in danger. And she didn't spend basic brain development in his womb. And vision of her father's danger similar to Aniken's visions of his mother what if Quigion who knew someone in similar situation who left the order because of it . Had lived
I predict that Aasaj will die during the rescue of Omega. I also predict that all of the Dad Batch will die over the course of the season, Saving Private Ryan style, leaving Omega as the sole survivor.
Oh shit... *Omega* (final, end). She very well could be the last surviving one. I also wonder if she'll be given a more proper name. Like... sure she'll always consider herself "Omega," just as the 99s did, but surely she can't practically use that codename normally.
I found what you said about the a Jedi n Sith in this video to be quite insightful. I'll try to remember it.
She's part of the ssssssssssyndicate
Amazing comment.
So hyped for her comeback!!!💖
In the audio book "Dark Disciple" (2015) Vos and Kenobi return Ventress to Dathomir where she is lowered, by Vos, into one of the pools. She is not 'buried'.
He is aware of a susurration and can hear the word "sister" as if the spirits of the NS are welcoming her home.
Imagine if Ventress becomes part of the Bad Batch.
Who would have thought that all Ventress Needed to go from Harpy to Hotty with some hair?
She was already my favorite character, you're making her sound even better..
As someone who didn’t read that book, the last time I saw Ventress was on Corusant when she helped Ahsoka. But she would have been a target for order 66 just like everyone else. The only advantage she has is that she spent years fighting clones, she probably has more experience than anyone.
no she wouldn’t have. order 66 only targeted the jedi, of which she was not. as far as palpatine was concerned, the nightsisters had been taken care of and were no longer a threat so as long as ventress laid low for a bit right after the clone war there’s no reason to assume she would’ve been on the empire’s radar.
@@Nate-ht4se at the time neither was Ahsoka, did that stop the clones?
love that symbolism of blaming the tools
She's an Awesome character 😊
It will be cool to see ventress again. Gotta wonder what her relationship with boba was like? Assuming she survives the batch that will mark her as a order 66 survivor, from a certain point of view. We know fennec shand is going to be in season 3 with her wonder if this new season has ventress and shand working together and possibly serving as a tie in to have her in book of boba?
Thank you so much for correcting yourself, I wanted to point that out but didn´t.
I want her to live even after bad batch.
That Bounty episode is one of my favourites, sealed Ventress's place in my little fan heart. And because it's just a straightforward episode, it's a nice intro for those who haven't seen the Clone Wars and don't want to get bogged down in too much backstory.
Which episode is it?
Asajj falls into the list of characters that have so much to offer because of her character arc. Im glad shes back. Shell make her way to live a tion where i think well finally meet Voss.
well unexpected is a understate ment
1:51 Bro I thought that guy was her first Jedi master since she called him master when she found his dead body in the next scene of the flashback😅
Ambulance in the background at 4:31
Judging by the way ventress was introduced in that bad batch trailer. It implies to me that she will in fact be instermental along with the verius friends the bad batch made along the way in both saving omega and melding the ghost crew together.
I was so confused in the last video because I didn’t understand why he was talking about the empire
I haven't read the novel, so when is it actually set? Is there a chance that season 3 can be set BEFORE the events of the book? Or to retcon the book so that it happens later?
Hello there, Allen.
She died and was brought back. Maybe she wants to change her motto reborn.
wow cool
Yeah I’m the video yesterday I had no clue what you meant she rejoined the empire
from IRL wisdom straight back to star wars
Allen, get over it. Ventress didn't deserve a stupid book death. She was a beloved main character who still had plenty of story.
Quinlan Vos full of love and compassion ?
I hope they go back in time. To keep the time straight.
It's not a new symbol, she had it on in the clone wars season 5 Arc with Ashoka
day 342 PLEASE DO MORE TACTICS AND STRUCTURES LIKE THE CIS NAVY STRUCTURE AND RANKS
Thanks for the visual of Asajj being an Uber driver hahaha xD
Love your videos! Side point technically Maul still lives a longer life unless we see Ventress still kicking past the events of Rebels. That being said Ventress definitely lives a much more fulfilled life
I feel like even if Ventress hadn't lost her Master, given her natural skills and abilities, and basically secret training at an age older than even Anikin. She'd have made an invaluable Sentinel. The only Jedi in the order at the time that were like those of old. Those out in the galaxy, understanding the blurred lines and getting their hands dirty to keep people safe. Strength of force (Action) versus diplomacy by any means before use of force is applied. The code was important, but acting on the will of the living force and the betterment of lives around them was the ultimate mission for them. Not the strictures and dogma. Which is why in the late period of the Jedi (Second half of the High republic I'd say, if we want to use a canon time period.) sentinels were seen more as outcasts and at risk of falling to the dark side. And it's true that in peace times Sentinels were usually chosen from the more... "Amoral", A type personalities or loner types because they could survive and do the duty that the order as a whole could not. The dark and light had no hard boundary for them in their own mentality. One could argue that many tales of the Jedi that floated about the galaxy were not from the primary order outside the inner core, but of Sentinels.
I show be star war characters as in my profile photo .a common theme in Robin Williams movies is a man who was forced to grow up to fast
No one is ever really gone in Star Wars …. And The Fast and Furious franchise except for Paul Walker 😢
It was explained, theorized on another you tube channel. That Asad was brought back using Dafomirian magic. Think it may have been Thor Skywalker that guessed that.
I think we need to stop considering anything that happens in books and graphic novels canon. The way Filoni seems to see it, unless it happens on a screen, it doesn't happen.
It has already been confirmed that they wrote this with Dark Disciples in mind. So it's not being retconned. It's just that they're bringing her back through some means which they'll explain in the show.
We would have zero content to make videos about, do you want channels like this to die? 😂
Maybe its a vision
The power of Marry Sue transcends death .
A bounty hunter guild?
I'm thinking it's a simple retcon. Maybe it'll be Cobb Vanth's story from "Aftermath" to "The Mandalorian." Simply change the end and have Vos make the sacrifice. Not saying it's perfect, just the easiest explanation.
Looks like the spiral from true detective
Somehow, Ventress returned.
Since the the death of Ventress get retcon, is this mean there's a chance we'll see a live-action Asajj Ventress in the future?
How did she now gets hair?
Anakin: A serpent can shed its' skin, but it is still a serpent.
How many bounty hunters does the galaxy need?
Season 3 will take place a year before dark apprentice I believe
The reason the Sith are the way they are is because they use the Dark Side of the force. KOTOR was freaking amazing, but the way it described the Force and alignment isn't how George Lucas explained it. According to George, serving the Light Side means maintaining balance, while using the Dark Side leads to more imbalance. I believe he described using the Dark Side like an addictive drug, you can't use both the Light Side and Dark Side because the Darkness will inevitably drag you further and further out of balance each time you use it.
different star wars media have have showcased various interpretations of the force. i kinda just like to see it as there being no one right answer but rather it being a matter of perspective. different in-universe factions have different views of the force so the jedi might consider it impossible to use the dark side without being corrupted by it but other 3rd parties that aren’t jedi or sith might disagree. going by that subjective in-universe approach to it makes it a lot easier for me to reconcile the different ways the force is treated in star wars media
the truth in the real world we all are hypocrites too some level and it fluctuates how often we are and why
So you could say that she has chosen the path of the Grey Jedi? Tp all that say "they are not cannon" did you not just watch the video above..
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Obi Won: Really
Quinlon: Bro😉 ......😎
Allen I've said it before I'll say it again if more people had your outlook things would be a lot better
I hope the whole thing isn't some sort of flashback. If the water of the pool, when it turned green (when she was placed there by Vos and Kenobi) resurrected her, there is so much they could do with her new lease on life. She's just too cool of a character (and a strong female character, which Disney favors so much) that I think they should do a series about her as a Bounty Hunter. Maybe looking for Vos while he is helping hide Jedi as part of 'The Path" as was mentioned in Kenobi.
It's hard to say that Jedi shouldn't be involved in war because they are peace keepers. If you fight to stop an enemy from destroying a small village, you're a peacekeeper but if you fight to stop them from destroying a planet, it's a war. The only thing that kept the Jedi out of a war for 1000 years was the Sith going into hiding but now they're back.
What I heard is I’m a Jedi because I think I can fix them
I’m sorry but no, I’m taking Yoda’s word he tells Luke straight up that “Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.”
The force can indeed change ones perspective and sway one to make choices they normally wouldn’t until they look back and realize just how changed they are from when they started.
omg, venomous sperm would be a great band name
The Force has a will of its own though. And using the force like a tool is exactly what the Sith do and get corrupted by their perversion of it. Look at Sith alchemy. Unless we're reimagining the Force as simply just a superpower there isn't the simple middle zone like you say.
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I agree with you on the bounty hunter thing.she might not be a classic bounty hunter but her kills,jobs,and stats speak for themselves..she is the deadliat bounty hunter bcuz of her assassin experiences puls Dooku training,plus force powers,clone wars vet, literally surviving every encounter with notable jedi and sith for years.. survived the chosen one Anakin at his prime,with some victories,went toe to toe with obi wan everysingle time and lived,kept up with maul in physical kombat, and was probably Dookus greatest apprentice no minor feat.given the time i think her and dooku couldve taken Sidious 10,-15more years,years dooku didn't have and sidious would not allow
14:37 why wouldn't you get her for a job
Obviously she joined up with house va'ruun
So she is solid snakes and quiets daughter?
Damn, instant spoiler for Bad Batch Sn3
Forgive me for stating the obvious but this story makes me think a lot about Baylan scoll
The symbol reminds of the crazy chaos cult that worships Darth Vader
As her siggle 😂
I also think the saber is actually going to be red, and she needs to make it yellow.
Until then it will be red, because she receives it that way.
She got the yellow lightsaber on the blackmailed from what the book stated
Not possible. In Disney canon, a saber can only be red if the crystal is bled. And once it's been bled, it cannot be turned any other color except white, which requires purifying it with extremely strong light-side energy. And given that yellow blades typically represent Sentinel-class Jedi (who are distinguished by their specialty in practical abilities/skills), I'd say yellow suits Ventress perfectly.
@@mikebennetzen721 Actually she did get a yellow lightsaber there, but lost it in dark deciple. Then Maul got that saber, and ventress needs a new saber again, which is why her saber is curved again.
@@mikebennetzen721 But thank you for mentioning that.
@@SigTheSauceMan Could be. Let´s see what will happen. I just hope we see her collect the new saber, because that´ll be cool.
So what was their thought in reasoning for having Asad Ventress giving up dual lightsabers for single one?
She lost her red sabers to Barris Offie in the Lost Jedi arc. She bought a saber off the black market. In the book, it was a yellow, double bladed staff like the temple guards use.
Maybe hopeful thinking, but it seems like Ventress was changed just enough to make her easier to bring into live action. Just sayin'.
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