i prep material by dehydrating in vac chamber with rice or silica pack(absorbs water) for a couple hours, pack tube tightly, i use hydraulic jack handle to super pack tube, yes i can get 180g in my 180g tube:) pack super duper tight lol. Now pull full vacuum on tube and place packed tube in freezer(overnight works best) also put tane cans in FRIDGE overnight. extraction time, get everything ready to extract before you remove tube from freezer since it starts to de-thaw immediately. press cans while valve is closed then open valve while pressing can so not to lose too much pressure, you will know when can is empty by the sound it makes, when your done with one can close valve and start next can, this extractor will take 2 cans to fully pressurize, close valve. Once i get the extractor full i wait maybe 5 mins or so then i slowly release extraction into pyrex bowl. I consistently get 15 percent return on sugar trim, premium shake i've gotten up to 60 g's of extract. hope this helps someone and hope it didn't skip anything even tho i re-read a few times. lately I've gotten lazy and just pack tube and run it with good results, same with larger runs since I only have one tube so the 2nd tube doesn't get the prom queen treatment. Most important is your material, good material beats a good extraction any day IMHO, cheers
also its hard to weigh material before filling tube so i weigh after the run but let the material thaw out a for a hour(still frozen even in the sun) and i get up to 200g so maybe that's where bestvalue calculated that number
Look guys, don't be afraid to let a bit of water drip into your collection plate. You might like what happens, particularly if you freeze dry the product. Some reading might lead you to a solvent that is stable and won't pick up chloro. You could take the top off the column, rinse the veg with stable liquid solvent, press from the top with a good fitting dowel or rod, rinse and press again a total of three times using just a few ounces of solvent per rinse and get EVERYTHING from your veg or keep throwing away 30% of your yield without rinsing. Just saying...
Open blast needs to be done with a flow hood or outside where there is good ventilation....u can literally get blown apart. I recommend closed loop extraction. You get higher yields also because u can create a larger temperature/pres differential
Correction freeze your material. pack the tube, get a de wax Colum. pack it fill the de wax sleeve with dry ice and iso alcohol. draw a vacuum close it let sit 30 mins then blast it
The process as I have figured out: Build the kit, Fill the kit, Get the kit under vacuum pressure so it will literally be pulling the butane out of the can, disconnect vacuum, and blast with 1-2 cans, and let sit for 2-5min, Don't know why you would put in water so I would not do this step, up to you though, open valve and let drain into your container, I would be using a stainless steal vacuum degassing chamber, let sit for desired amount of time, (depends on how much you have, more takes longer), It's safe to smoke at this point but you could put it in a vacuum oven if you had the money for one and make it more "stable", but this step is not needed. Best of luck!
I don’t have a bvv but did you need any special attachment to connect it to the column? I currently have my rubber hose attached to a vac chamber. And need to get a new hose and attachments to pull a vac on the column but want to make sure I get the right stuff
great video.. still watching vids how to make bho.. How many cans of butane did you run thru?? also when u purge.. can u pls tell me how to do that??? I know you go for 12 hrs one side.. 12 hrs flip.. and 12 back over.. but during the duration. Do I keep the pump running.. do i constantly release the air inside once inawhile..pls inform me..thx..
Good video. I have one of these but had now idea how to use it. I was basically using it like a open blaster but with controlled release. My yields were sucking. Next time I will soak it under water in a bathtub with a bunch of dry ice.
Dry ice makes it hella cold. The boiling point for butane I think is 0 celsius, so making it colder would keep it close to liquid form instead of gas form, therefor you fit more in your tank because the pressure will be lower in its liquid form. Don't use dry ice to make your column colder, Soak in ice water. If you use dry ice you risk making the metal so cold pieces might frost together. just do it outside in January, If you don't live in Canada, maybe wait until the middle of the night so it's colder outside.
It is an open blast all he's doing is pulling a vacuum to help suck the butane in and then sitting it in a tub of ice he still releasing all the butane into the atmosphere and not reclaiming any of it obviously not a closed loop. You shouldn't be open blasting anyways not only because it's bad for the environment but because it's fucking dangerous especially when you have stupid people like this showing you how to do it.
if you get the pressure gauge you'll have to pull from the opposite side, in this case the bottom but if you don't get the gauge you can fill your tube, then devac it from any port...then slowly add pressure back into your tube by introducing pressurixed butane. This way when your tube is full you can let it marinate in an ice bath like in the video....this process makes a 2nd and definitely a 3rd wash totally unnecessary. With the pressurization your material is under while submerged in solvent makes it so you get almost your entire return on that first and only blast... I'm sure you can run material again and get something but if you pull 20% plus on your first blast (of nug run...trim would be way less obviously) whatever else you may be able to extract will come with undesirables...such as chlorophyll, lipids, etc... ...hope this helps...! Have a great day and stay dabbin!!
Don't ever be a rookie and open the valve before the pump is turned on leave it closed also closed it before you turn off your pump also have the pump on the floor lower then the extractor the pump will suck up oil in to your extractor its a vacuum pump needs pressure
I can never get 1 can into that tube after pulling a vac on it. I get about a half can then it stops, any ideas? Also is it ok to only fill the column up to 50% instead of all the way full? thanks
Northeast710 It just really depends on your pressure inside the tube . Ive almost got 2 cans in there . I would recommend freezing the full tube , then filling it with tane
I am only fitting about 120-130g's in my BVV 180g closed column tube and I'm packing it in fairly tight, if I had known it would only fit 130 I would have grabbed the next step up or bigger even. Also I found inserting one can and then another while opening bottom valve is much more efficient than the whole ice water bath bull shit - I would be worried about water dripping into my collection pot as well as the extra time to do this.
Kaelan Kaldani I agree with not doing the ice bath . It is time consuming . Also going bigger is better . The next size is perfect . Any bigger I would suggest getting a closed loop .I also started doing the two can process . It's more effective .If you are looking for bigger . The do have accessories were you can buy longer extensions . Would have to buy another clamp to .The weight it says that you could put in there should deff be adjusted . I haven't been able to fit 180 either
I now put one can in . I try to put the second one in but if it doesn't fill I stop. I then put in the freezer for 45 mins . I take out then release I try to release until I see only gas has no liquid . When it's released . It's has an after freeze on the trim or buds so it turns frozen inside the tube . I then flush with the second can .
I've wrapped dry ice around the tube put it seems to get to cold . It did damage the release valve when I did this . It's started coming out from the open and close lever . Also on there website it says do not use co2. I don't use the stand anymore and just a regular clamp so I can fit it in my freezer . Works so much better
This was dry trim and it prob came out to 10 grams so 100 gram in the tube . I use frozen buds now . I use two clamps and do not use the stand so I can put in the freezer .
+damien trelenberg I'm a nuggrunner too man so I like my 25% returns just as much as you do but he is getting 10 to 12 with trim... not nug...I don't about u but I don't even know what else to do with trim besides making hash...but i can always smoke, sell, trade, etc. an ounce of premium nugs. Any of that make sense? Again, I run nug too always because i think it makes a higher quality oil but whatever i got off of a trim run, when i rarely do them, is all mine and was pretty much free because once again, what else are you going to do with trim? So yes you have him beat in yield, but your O of nugg had value...it was worth money to start with....and you turned it into 5 to 6 grams of oil...that's about what i get anyway... And this gentlemen made 10 to 12 grams of oil (even if it does smell or taste a little "trimmy" ;) )from something considered almost worthless, unless your willing to process it. So yes, you get 20% yield plus from your nuggs that have to come from somewhere so i'm guessing they are not free...even if you grow! But trim....to get oil from that is literallly like turning hay into gold!!! you feel me homie... ;)?
+Casey Banks 10% return on a trim isn't bad at all! I've seen people very happy with 5 to 7% from their worthless trim of course...but there must've been some sugary leaf in there to get 10% from straight trim! ... Everybody wants to hate but they also like to forget that nug running compared to trim running is majorly different by usually one thing!..... Nugs cost money to buy then run! Trim you usually have as excess or someone asks you to run it for them and they give you a nice chunk for processing.....bottom line.... NugRun = $$ into quality oil. TrimRun = "hay" (in value/cost) into a slightly lower quality gold. Good Job Man!
Cool kit, I would get one if they were priced appropriately. $200 sift screens, $500 bubble bags, great website with lots of good stuff, but that mark up. I'm guessing they got to be tied down to a b&m.
dude forreal lol. wtf is the point of the pressure and closed loop if he's still using canned butane? might as well just blast open with multiple screens to build a little pressure. it'll be faster
@@jbeezy126 first of all, it's not a closed loop system, it's a closed column blast tube. basically it's about leaving your material in the butane for a little bit longer improving your yield.
Ted Redewill Depends on what technique you do . The ice bath or dry ice in a cooler will increase your yield very much .If you just blast without any freezing or cooling I got a average of 4-7 gs . The ice techs are from 6-15 grams . These are from personal experience .
What kind of system are running to get such good returns? I'm using one of these 90 gram tubes but my returns are awful. Never more than 8-9 grams out of my tube and I ram tons of material in there with a stick. I pack that shit TIGHT!
+Damien they are probably using shit trim, Im getting this unit today and will test it with good trim. I usually get the same as you were talking about with a regular blast tube.
I have not used co2 inside the tube . I have wrapped dry ice (co2) around the tube , but it seems to damage the release valve . The blast started coming out of the the open and close lever .
co2 has to be compressed into a liquid. it also would need a separation tank that maintains a pressure lower than the pressure needed to get the co2 from gas phase to liquid phase. if it drops from subcritical all the way to an open atmosphere, its going to shoot out chunks of dry ice. Another thing is the triclamps gaskets and valves arent raited for that high of pressure.
+DOS UNO all of their measurements are in shake form so yea order appropriately. I also have this company's products and they are top quality and customer service has always been on point.
DAT Wagonator I did order appropriately and I used indoor trim shake in my 180g tube but only around 100grams fit and I packed it! It's whatever and I still use it. I iust hoped for a better estimate or else I would of ordered the next larger size
yes. a tank with a dip tube will let you draw liquid up the line and into the tube. If it doesnt have a dip tube then flip the tank upside down so you can have liquid run out of the tank and into the tube.
i prep material by dehydrating in vac chamber with rice or silica pack(absorbs water) for a couple hours, pack tube tightly, i use hydraulic jack handle to super pack tube, yes i can get 180g in my 180g tube:) pack super duper tight lol. Now pull full vacuum on tube and place packed tube in freezer(overnight works best) also put tane cans in FRIDGE overnight. extraction time, get everything ready to extract before you remove tube from freezer since it starts to de-thaw immediately. press cans while valve is closed then open valve while pressing can so not to lose too much pressure, you will know when can is empty by the sound it makes, when your done with one can close valve and start next can, this extractor will take 2 cans to fully pressurize, close valve. Once i get the extractor full i wait maybe 5 mins or so then i slowly release extraction into pyrex bowl. I consistently get 15 percent return on sugar trim, premium shake i've gotten up to 60 g's of extract. hope this helps someone and hope it didn't skip anything even tho i re-read a few times. lately I've gotten lazy and just pack tube and run it with good results, same with larger runs since I only have one tube so the 2nd tube doesn't get the prom queen treatment. Most important is your material, good material beats a good extraction any day IMHO, cheers
also its hard to weigh material before filling tube so i weigh after the run but let the material thaw out a for a hour(still frozen even in the sun) and i get up to 200g so maybe that's where bestvalue calculated that number
have any pictures of your process? I'm interested.
you should make a video of your process, if you already have please send me the link.
Your concentrates must have been disgusting at 15% on trim😂
I can't believe you uploaded this video four years ago lol I'm just beginning to look at this stuff on Amazon now
Made it back in 2016... only had a honeybee queen hand extractor lol. Oh how times have changed
same here
Me too but 5 years lmfao
@@randomvideosfilmcollection3161 I got my first honey bee in 2010
Look guys, don't be afraid to let a bit of water drip into your collection plate. You might like what happens, particularly if you freeze dry the product. Some reading might lead you to a solvent that is stable and won't pick up chloro. You could take the top off the column, rinse the veg with stable liquid solvent, press from the top with a good fitting dowel or rod, rinse and press again a total of three times using just a few ounces of solvent per rinse and get EVERYTHING from your veg or keep throwing away 30% of your yield without rinsing. Just saying...
CrucifyRobinHood ...I do this method. 20-30% more quantity, 5-10% less quality tho... Still experimenting!
Open blast needs to be done with a flow hood or outside where there is good ventilation....u can literally get blown apart. I recommend closed loop extraction. You get higher yields also because u can create a larger temperature/pres differential
I've got the bigger chamber and love it. I build a 4inch pvc pipe chamber around mine so. Can put dry ice around chamber make hella difference...
What happens with the dry ice tube on it?
Pack you material first, then put it in the freezer for about 45 minutes
Luis Caruso I currently use live resin and work at a slower pace . I usually will keep the tube in freezer for one day packed full of fresh material
@@mysticfarm784 under vac?
Correction freeze your material. pack the tube, get a de wax Colum. pack it fill the de wax sleeve with dry ice and iso alcohol. draw a vacuum close it let sit 30 mins then blast it
@@HighDriver what does the dry ice do
Do u vacuum from the bottom to suck the herb down?
You fill it with herb then vaccum to get all the pressure out for the tube for the butane to fill the space and move through the space.
So when you put the pump it wont pull the bho am confused or idk if I explained myself right, getting to do it and I wanna do it the proper way
The process as I have figured out:
Build the kit,
Fill the kit,
Get the kit under vacuum pressure so it will literally be pulling the butane out of the can,
disconnect vacuum, and blast with 1-2 cans, and let sit for 2-5min,
Don't know why you would put in water so I would not do this step, up to you though,
open valve and let drain into your container, I would be using a stainless steal vacuum degassing chamber,
let sit for desired amount of time, (depends on how much you have, more takes longer),
It's safe to smoke at this point but you could put it in a vacuum oven if you had the money for one and make it more "stable", but this step is not needed.
Best of luck!
I don’t have a bvv but did you need any special attachment to connect it to the column? I currently have my rubber hose attached to a vac chamber. And need to get a new hose and attachments to pull a vac on the column but want to make sure I get the right stuff
Wtf?!! Are you running gravel?
What is the water ice bath for?
Nice thanks for the info just got the appollo 130 tube with ice jacket cant wait to do a run got a sh*t tonne of trim/hermi material
I always put the gas cap on then 1st, then pack the tube, place the screen ontop of product then attach the nozzle...think il try your way
Right on brother we'll done, 7 yes old but just checking these out. Great explanation, very helpful thanks. ✌️
Sweet man. I'm getting that setup after I learn more on the glass tube. Good stuff man. Love and respect
What does the dry ice process do exactly ? And is there still a need to dewax after ?
Hey what vacuum pump do you use im trying to find one for my ss extraction tube but im having a hard time with it??
I have a massive freezer can i put it in their and if i can how long?
Will that rubber gasket withstand dimethyl ether?
great video.. still watching vids how to make bho.. How many cans of butane did you run thru?? also when u purge.. can u pls tell me how to do that??? I know you go for 12 hrs one side.. 12 hrs flip.. and 12 back over.. but during the duration. Do I keep the pump running.. do i constantly release the air inside once inawhile..pls inform me..thx..
Kay go to dude grows blog on Google he explains the whole process. Also best value vac. Web site has good info on purging
One can for that tube ? Doesn't seem enough
2 to 3 actually
It's enough. I harvest 18% with 1 can. A tall 420 ml can.
Good video. I have one of these but had now idea how to use it. I was basically using it like a open blaster but with controlled release. My yields were sucking. Next time I will soak it under water in a bathtub with a bunch of dry ice.
Dry ice makes it hella cold. The boiling point for butane I think is 0 celsius, so making it colder would keep it close to liquid form instead of gas form, therefor you fit more in your tank because the pressure will be lower in its liquid form. Don't use dry ice to make your column colder, Soak in ice water. If you use dry ice you risk making the metal so cold pieces might frost together. just do it outside in January, If you don't live in Canada, maybe wait until the middle of the night so it's colder outside.
It is an open blast all he's doing is pulling a vacuum to help suck the butane in and then sitting it in a tub of ice he still releasing all the butane into the atmosphere and not reclaiming any of it obviously not a closed loop. You shouldn't be open blasting anyways not only because it's bad for the environment but because it's fucking dangerous especially when you have stupid people like this showing you how to do it.
does it matter if you pull a vac from top ov tube on these systems please..
if you get the pressure gauge you'll have to pull from the opposite side, in this case the bottom but if you don't get the gauge you can fill your tube, then devac it from any port...then slowly add pressure back into your tube by introducing pressurixed butane. This way when your tube is full you can let it marinate in an ice bath like in the video....this process makes a 2nd and definitely a 3rd wash totally unnecessary.
With the pressurization your material is under while submerged in solvent makes it so you get almost your entire return on that first and only blast...
I'm sure you can run material again and get something but if you pull 20% plus on your first blast (of nug run...trim would be way less obviously) whatever else you may be able to extract will come with undesirables...such as chlorophyll, lipids, etc...
...hope this helps...! Have a great day and stay dabbin!!
do you have to use butane can you use Co2?
Leon Arias no you can’t use co2
Have to use butane. Co2 is a trash solvent anyhow
can u use CO2?
Hey what paper are you blasting on is thatoil slick?
Don't ever be a rookie and open the valve before the pump is turned on leave it closed also closed it before you turn off your pump also have the pump on the floor lower then the extractor the pump will suck up oil in to your extractor its a vacuum pump needs pressure
What's the purpose of doing the vac before adding solvent?
Purge other gases in the chamber, that way you can have 100% solvent in there. Also prevents ice from forming due to water vapor in the atmostphere
The hydrocarbons react more under negative pressure which allows less gas to be used, higher efficiency and therefore higher yield...
Can i use my 3 gal oil free compressor till it stops filling with air?
why does he purge the tube?
So you can put more butane in it.
were can I buy 1
amazon has them right now
Eric Castillo u
I can never get 1 can into that tube after pulling a vac on it. I get about a half can then it stops, any ideas? Also is it ok to only fill the column up to 50% instead of all the way full? thanks
Mine does this too wtf
You put only 1 can for 180 g's
Northeast710 It just really depends on your pressure inside the tube . Ive almost got 2 cans in there . I would recommend freezing the full tube , then filling it with tane
LMAO
Northeast710 I'd run at least 6 cans through that. 1 per oz minimum
I am only fitting about 120-130g's in my BVV 180g closed column tube and I'm packing it in fairly tight, if I had known it would only fit 130 I would have grabbed the next step up or bigger even. Also I found inserting one can and then another while opening bottom valve is much more efficient than the whole ice water bath bull shit - I would be worried about water dripping into my collection pot as well as the extra time to do this.
Kaelan Kaldani I agree with not doing the ice bath . It is time consuming . Also going bigger is better . The next size is perfect . Any bigger I would suggest getting a closed loop .I also started doing the two can process . It's more effective .If you are looking for bigger . The do have accessories were you can buy longer extensions . Would have to buy another clamp to .The weight it says that you could put in there should deff be adjusted . I haven't been able to fit 180 either
Mystic Farm If you are looking to "cold water bath" I'd use Dry Ice/ISO bath if you want temps like -30f or so.
+Mystic Farm
How do youdo that method? when its time to release? shoot a can in, then slowly release while you put in another?
I now put one can in . I try to put the second one in but if it doesn't fill I stop. I then put in the freezer for 45 mins . I take out then release I try to release until I see only gas has no liquid . When it's released . It's has an after freeze on the trim or buds so it turns frozen inside the tube . I then flush with the second can .
I've wrapped dry ice around the tube put it seems to get to cold . It did damage the release valve when I did this . It's started coming out from the open and close lever . Also on there website it says do not use co2. I don't use the stand anymore and just a regular clamp so I can fit it in my freezer . Works so much better
so how much did u blast? and how much did u get on this run??
This was dry trim and it prob came out to 10 grams so 100 gram in the tube . I use frozen buds now . I use two clamps and do not use the stand so I can put in the freezer .
+Casey Banks lol what i get 10 to 12 grams every time i extract two ounces.
+damien trelenberg
I'm a nuggrunner too man so I like my 25% returns just as much as you do but he is getting 10 to 12 with trim... not nug...I don't about u but I don't even know what else to do with trim besides making hash...but i can always smoke, sell, trade, etc. an ounce of premium nugs.
Any of that make sense?
Again, I run nug too always because i think it makes a higher quality oil but whatever i got off of a trim run, when i rarely do them, is all mine and was pretty much free because once again, what else are you going to do with trim?
So yes you have him beat in yield, but your O of nugg had value...it was worth money to start with....and you turned it into 5 to 6 grams of oil...that's about what i get anyway...
And this gentlemen made 10 to 12 grams of oil (even if it does smell or taste a little "trimmy" ;) )from something considered almost worthless, unless your willing to process it.
So yes, you get 20% yield plus from your nuggs that have to come from somewhere so i'm guessing they are not free...even if you grow!
But trim....to get oil from that is literallly like turning hay into gold!!! you feel me homie... ;)?
+Casey Banks
10% return on a trim isn't bad at all! I've seen people very happy with 5 to 7% from their worthless trim of course...but there must've been some sugary leaf in there to get 10% from straight trim!
...
Everybody wants to hate but they also like to forget that nug running compared to trim running is majorly different by usually one thing!.....
Nugs cost money to buy then run! Trim you usually have as excess or someone asks you to run it for them and they give you a nice chunk for processing.....bottom line....
NugRun = $$ into quality oil.
TrimRun = "hay" (in value/cost) into a slightly lower quality gold.
Good Job Man!
Thanks for the idea, now i'll make my own lool
Cool kit, I would get one if they were priced appropriately. $200 sift screens, $500 bubble bags, great website with lots of good stuff, but that mark up. I'm guessing they got to be tied down to a b&m.
***love that 10 ft. ganja plant, homieeeee***
Here's how to pretend to use an extractor and then burn your house down. lol
dude forreal lol. wtf is the point of the pressure and closed loop if he's still using canned butane? might as well just blast open with multiple screens to build a little pressure. it'll be faster
@@jbeezy126 first of all, it's not a closed loop system, it's a closed column blast tube. basically it's about leaving your material in the butane for a little bit longer improving your yield.
@@SkandalouzStyle
Still this guy is beyond dumb sitting here acting like he knows what the fuck he's doing
lovely life enhancing butane 😍
how much return do you get
Ted Redewill Depends on what technique you do . The ice bath or dry ice in a cooler will increase your yield very much .If you just blast without any freezing or cooling I got a average of 4-7 gs . The ice techs are from 6-15 grams . These are from personal experience .
I usually get 9-14 , but I have perfected my runs .
+Mystic Farm how does that make any sense u using 100 grams of material and getting 4-7 grams return, i use 56 grams of bud and get 12 grams
What kind of system are running to get such good returns? I'm using one of these 90 gram tubes but my returns are awful. Never more than 8-9 grams out of my tube and I ram tons of material in there with a stick. I pack that shit TIGHT!
+Damien they are probably using shit trim, Im getting this unit today and will test it with good trim. I usually get the same as you were talking about with a regular blast tube.
What are you talking about
so you put 2 cans total right?
have you tried co2 with that one
I have not used co2 inside the tube . I have wrapped dry ice (co2) around the tube , but it seems to damage the release valve . The blast started coming out of the the open and close lever .
co2 has to be compressed into a liquid. it also would need a separation tank that maintains a pressure lower than the pressure needed to get the co2 from gas phase to liquid phase. if it drops from subcritical all the way to an open atmosphere, its going to shoot out chunks of dry ice. Another thing is the triclamps gaskets and valves arent raited for that high of pressure.
lol, 180 grams does not even fit in that tube.
DOS UNO Your correct they do need to decrease there listed amount you can put in the tube
No not really . What ever your return is that's is how much fits in the tube . Example if your return is 10 grams then you fit 100 grams in there
+Casey Banks That makes no sense. The company said 180 grams can fit and no it doesn't.
+DOS UNO all of their measurements are in shake form so yea order appropriately. I also have this company's products and they are top quality and customer service has always been on point.
DAT Wagonator I did order appropriately and I used indoor trim shake in my 180g tube but only around 100grams fit and I packed it!
It's whatever and I still use it. I iust hoped for a better estimate or else I would of ordered the next larger size
Wtf? Why do you have that music so loud when your trying to teach your skills?
To drown out the shity information that he's trying to provide you with do not follow any of the instructions this butthole gave to you
Can you attach the big cylinders of butane instead of the cans to this system?
yes. a tank with a dip tube will let you draw liquid up the line and into the tube. If it doesnt have a dip tube then flip the tank upside down so you can have liquid run out of the tank and into the tube.