Here’s Why Democrats Need To Get A Spine: Amanda Seales & Francesca Fiorentini on Trump's Win

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @obscurereferens7377
    @obscurereferens7377 6 дней назад +209

    Pretty significant thing to note here, but the targeted groups in Germany were NOT only Jewish, but socialists, Roma, LGBT, the disabled. Jews account for about half of those killed during the Holocaust but it wasn't only them. That's why the poem goes First they came for...

    • @ScaryMason
      @ScaryMason 6 дней назад +7

      Thanks

    • @cius2112
      @cius2112 6 дней назад

      most of those things are Jewish.

    • @ScaryMason
      @ScaryMason 6 дней назад +7

      @ education of the public never ends.

    • @Olivetree00
      @Olivetree00 5 дней назад +1

      Black people...

    • @2porangi
      @2porangi 5 дней назад

      The sad thing is nobody talks about the handicaped that perished during the holocaust, Trump, I mean Hitler called them degenerates.

  • @angel47-glt
    @angel47-glt 6 дней назад +133

    Leave black women and black men outa the voting for trump
    Black women voted 92% for Kamala and it stayed at 21% black men for trump which didn’t change from 2016- black women and black men voted for Kamala

    • @海阔天空-SO
      @海阔天空-SO 6 дней назад +1

      Wow 92%. When it is always so one-sided, it just makes you wonder.

    • @robertr9165
      @robertr9165 6 дней назад +16

      @@海阔天空-SORefects how Republican policies are viewed.

    • @Iloveswedes
      @Iloveswedes 6 дней назад

      @@海阔天空-SO Not really. Republicans are racist as hell and women are most attacked. Do the math.

    • @海阔天空-SO
      @海阔天空-SO 6 дней назад +1

      ​@@robertr9165 I don't know. It just seems pretty extreme to me. If we poll them on a specific Republican policy, I doubt the disapproval rate will be anywhere near 92%

    • @MrMichiel1983
      @MrMichiel1983 6 дней назад

      @@海阔天空-SO Yes, why would women vote for Harris when Roe v Wade is overturned and openly racist and misogynistic men are heralded as heroes.... so incredibly weird, right? I agree completely with you.

  • @MaehiyaSOLDIER
    @MaehiyaSOLDIER 6 дней назад +66

    I love, love, love this cast. Please have Francesca on more times!

  • @anthonyshannon6744
    @anthonyshannon6744 6 дней назад +48

    Medhi gets it. This group of minds and personalities is definitely it!!

  • @krislee5343
    @krislee5343 6 дней назад +140

    Thanks for having Francesca on the show!

    • @philenns6797
      @philenns6797 5 дней назад +7

      A sharp young lady.

    • @HH-jg4ju
      @HH-jg4ju 3 дня назад +2

      She tore piers a new one before

  • @carolbulmer8253
    @carolbulmer8253 6 дней назад +69

    Mehdi, Amanda, and Francesca, thank you for this informative and amusing conversation

  • @longline
    @longline 6 дней назад +43

    Two hot takes that when combined I found compelling...
    1, Folks care about the present price of gas first, and are unmoved by further nuance.
    2, For some people, rape, fraud, and white supremacy are not sufficient to deter voting for a dude who says that they'll lower gas prices. And it doesn't have to be an evidenced plan, just say the thing.
    I know that workers often have a narrow bandwidth from the trauma of eternal insecurity and getting kicked in the teeth by capitalism. But man. When we'll accept the rapist for cheaper gas because he's 'our' arsehole, 'our' attack dog? That there is dark, and only gets darker.

    • @carolbulmer8253
      @carolbulmer8253 6 дней назад +4

      Well said!

    • @Not1MoreWar
      @Not1MoreWar 6 дней назад +8

      AKA making the trains run on time.

    • @sonotdown998
      @sonotdown998 6 дней назад +5

      Nationalize petroleum. I mean, people already think the President controls gas prices. At least they’d have something approaching a legitimate gripe.

    • @RoyalTruthTV
      @RoyalTruthTV 6 дней назад +1

      @@longline Trump haters 😄😄 stay salty 🧂

    • @Not1MoreWar
      @Not1MoreWar 6 дней назад +6

      "The Dangers of American Fascism" by Henry A. Wallace.

  • @OrphanOfEarth
    @OrphanOfEarth 6 дней назад +169

    The winning 2028 presidential campaign slogan “This Shit is Fucked Up”

    • @1eviledy
      @1eviledy 6 дней назад +8

      "You voted for the last time, I fixed it so you don't have to".

    • @bobbafett1849
      @bobbafett1849 6 дней назад

      Im betting there ARE no more elections.

    • @thewholetruth4192
      @thewholetruth4192 5 дней назад

      i thought that would be the title of his new book! Because things are really messed up!!! 😂🤣📚

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 5 дней назад +2

      Or FAFO.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 4 дня назад

      @@1eviledy Oh well. Voting wasn't getting me what I want anyway. Now I'll be forced to use direction action tactics with my allies instead of pretending that bourgeoise democracy serves anyone other than the rich.

  • @johncoleman3953
    @johncoleman3953 6 дней назад +34

    What Francesca said about white supremacy was spot on! Thank you for speaking the truth! Thank you all for having this conversation.

  • @kiltedcripple
    @kiltedcripple 6 дней назад +28

    Francesca has the only real suggestion of a way forward, which is, we invest heavily in our local communities. That is a HUGE ask because it's not unlikely that lenders of those communities don't agree with us on everything we value... but like that's the point of community? You were never promised that you'd like everyone you'll need to have a functional community. Sjow of hands, how many of us here have literal family members, who grew up in exactly the same house you did, that have beliefs different from you? Let me look here... yup, it's official, that's all the hands.
    The diversity of opinions is supposed to mean that we're always testing ideas for optimal results. Every set of eyes looks in every direction for threats of predators because if one person can be cut off or lost to the community, that loss hurts everyone's safety. We invest in each other because we must depend on one another. We build a strong community because when we have needs, the community provides.
    The entire point of the right wing demoncraft is to get you to distrust your neighbor. To convince that neighbor that they'd be better off without the community. To convince someone that others members of the community have already sold out, so you should too, or you'll get less. They're trying to cut a member of the herd off because that member is the herd is easier to kill alone, and the loss of that member hurts the safety of the entire herd.
    Cutting us off, breaking us up, erecting artificial barriers, that's the game, is been the game the entire time. So don't play, build. Make them waste the riches of Kroesus to break up an unshakeable community. Your reward for this work is an unshakeable community.

    • @MichelleJones-dh1ry
      @MichelleJones-dh1ry 5 дней назад +1

      That was beautiful and I get it bcuz we're going to need the help from both sides to fight the real POWERS at be regardless how we got here.

  • @jilliancorvus
    @jilliancorvus 6 дней назад +78

    Oooh, Francesca's already at first-name-only status in the titles! Love it, haha

    • @heynowls3058
      @heynowls3058 6 дней назад +11

      We need more Francesca & Amanda all around!
      Smart & funny.

    • @AbdSmamajej
      @AbdSmamajej 6 дней назад

      Please make the translation
      Thank you very much :
      Francesca est l'une des premières personnes qui avait alerter le monde du massacre monstrueux commis par israél et qui a eu le courage moral et l'honnêteté intellectuelle d'appeler le génocide
      un GÉNOCIDE،
      Alors que le Pape, le plus grand "saint" du monde hésite encore laissant planer des doutes hypocrites

    • @agentofchaos7456
      @agentofchaos7456 6 дней назад +8

      Cause she's awesome! 😄

    • @BlueDirt_ProAggressive
      @BlueDirt_ProAggressive 2 дня назад

      First and last is too long.

  • @joannekelly2770
    @joannekelly2770 6 дней назад +69

    Mehdi I so missed Tim Walz - he was such a uniter, was such a good governor, had so many good ideas!!!!!!!

    • @kaceykelly7222
      @kaceykelly7222 6 дней назад +8

      Me, too! I find myself re-playing old interviews and events he spoke at. This country lost an awesome VP!

    • @dialectixemcee2428
      @dialectixemcee2428 5 дней назад

      remember when he called the national guard and the pigs on anti racist protestors? ...Pepridge farm remembers

    • @idk-ll6yv
      @idk-ll6yv 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@kaceykelly7222😂 but when it came to speaking where it matters the most the debate against vance it shitted his pants 😂

  • @shishkabobby
    @shishkabobby 6 дней назад +22

    Latino men include rich Cubans who escaped when Castro came to power and poor Mexicans working as carpenters. I'm just guessing they have very different politics.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 дней назад

      There was a really depressing interview with a multi-generational Latino family in Nevada who had come to America illegally in the 80s from I believe Guatemala. They all voted Trump bc they truly believe "other illegals" are "the bad ones" & even tho they have both naturalized & "illegal" people in their family. They genuinely believe bc they "aren't criminals & Trump's only after the criminals" they will be ok.
      Yiiiiiikes.

    • @dialectixemcee2428
      @dialectixemcee2428 5 дней назад +1

      lol word

  • @burninghard
    @burninghard 6 дней назад +64

    Great guests Mehdi. That was hilarious and informing. Thanks!

  • @markjerorsr1495
    @markjerorsr1495 6 дней назад +19

    The election process has denigrated to the point where we get presented with a choice between competing corporate monopolies. In the American unregulated capitalist system there will only be one winner. Without a labor party we will be the losers.

  • @kingace6186
    @kingace6186 5 дней назад +11

    I do wanna say one thing: Us Black folks did our job. He made insignificant incremental gains, but by-in-large Black women and men held the line. Same with Jewish Americans and the queer community. WE DID NOT FOLD TO HIM. That is a point of pride for me.

    • @zeeqayum4834
      @zeeqayum4834 4 дня назад

      You dont speak for all black men

  • @Luceeeeeeeeeeeeee
    @Luceeeeeeeeeeeeee 6 дней назад +15

    Here for Amanda ❤ 🇬🇩

  • @MichelleJones-dh1ry
    @MichelleJones-dh1ry 5 дней назад +11

    Francesca is a true gem 💎 I loved it when she said" STOP saying or asking why did the Dems lose, when the Trump supporters and voters are why we're here in this predicament in the first place."

  • @cynthiahales-kepley54
    @cynthiahales-kepley54 6 дней назад +18

    Thank y'all so much for the real talk. If anything good comes of all this, maybe - just maybe - more and more people will drop MSM and support/build real communities for real people. Zeteo is a bellwether, just so grateful you're out there.

  • @SusanneNies-j8l
    @SusanneNies-j8l 6 дней назад +11

    Sorry but in Germany between 1933 and 1945 many other groups where victims of the Naziregime. There where, the communists,socialists,union leaders and known union workers, some critical church people from both main religiouns,some minor special religous groups, LGBTQ people,Gypsies,pacifists , critical humans from all sorts of branches in art, i cannot think of any more at the moment,but believe me there are. oh yes,polish and russian people ,because they where classified as subhumans. Many of these persons were killed in concentration camps , not always killed by gas, but by work,no healthcare,unhygenic conditions,hunger or torture.

    • @Not1MoreWar
      @Not1MoreWar 6 дней назад +2

      Martin Neimoller, who spent 7 years in a concentration camp, laid most of the blame on the Protestant and Catholic churches.
      "First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak out..."

    • @SusanneNies-j8l
      @SusanneNies-j8l 6 дней назад +2

      @@Not1MoreWar Niemöller is a very good example,he died in Buchenwald.And you are right the Rope Pius and the Top of the Protestant church collaborated with the National Socialists, but Padres and nuns,more unknown were victims as well.

    • @Not1MoreWar
      @Not1MoreWar 6 дней назад

      @@SusanneNies-j8l He died in 1984, near Frankfurt, after spending the rest of his life speaking out. Also, don't forget the disabled or "unfit" German citizens...

    • @SusanneNies-j8l
      @SusanneNies-j8l 6 дней назад

      @@Not1MoreWar I mixed it all up Paul Schneider was killed in Buchenwald, and of course the cruel demand of the regime to murder "life unworth living" (people with disabilities) was a reason why many priests or religious leading persons, spoke out against this order.

    • @SusanneNies-j8l
      @SusanneNies-j8l 6 дней назад

      Maximillian Kolbe was a Polish priest who died in Auschwitz in 41

  • @argophontes
    @argophontes 6 дней назад +41

    What the Dems really need to do is get out of the way and let an actually progressive party work instead of just taking up space being RNC Lite.

    • @tt2cpt748
      @tt2cpt748 4 дня назад

      I second that idea.. Unfortunately the corporate Democratic donors would never allow it. Mega Corporations and Billionaires are who control the Democratic party, their prosperity comes by way of the average American struggling.

    • @EdwardLindon
      @EdwardLindon 4 дня назад +2

      "Get out of the way and let..." is not a thing that happens in politics. New parties come up and tear the old ones to pieces. If you want one, you'd better build it.
      Apart from that, America is *very* right-wing, much more than most European countries. A truly progressive party would not appeal to many. I hope I'm wrong.

    • @BM1982.V2
      @BM1982.V2 4 дня назад

      ​@@EdwardLindonlook at opinion polling. Almost every left wing issue polls 60-80%. Bernie Sanders still polls as the most popular politician in the country among independents. The problem is that the left will stay home on election days if you don't give them any good options. The right will vote for a cucumber if it has an R beside its name. The left needs something to actually fire them up.
      Remember, Bernie Sanders won most of the open primaries where independents could also vote, he lost closed primaries and caucus races where only certain people were allowed to vote. If all the primaries had been open, no amount of DNC cheating and collusion would have stopped him.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 4 дня назад

      @@EdwardLindon Progressive economic policies are appealing across most of the American electorate, including a not-insignificant slice of the Republican electorate. As Americans are also the most propagandized people on Earth, you need good branding. If you call Universal Healthcare Programs "Freedom Doctors" and call the GOP a bunch of pedos and zealots to put them on the defensive whenever they accuse you of being a """socialist,""" you're going to win the hearts and minds of most people.

    • @dan_hitchman007
      @dan_hitchman007 4 дня назад

      They won't get the monied backers because the oligarchs control the mainstream political parties and the Russians control the Green Party.

  • @joannekelly2770
    @joannekelly2770 6 дней назад +13

    Thanks, Mehdi, Zeteo is soon to be my favourite network 💙 ... Expand away, Sir💙

  • @rossmann611
    @rossmann611 6 дней назад +25

    franceesca is fire!

    • @badgerboy97
      @badgerboy97 6 дней назад +1

      The crab walk comment had me rolling.

  • @tanyawilliams8254
    @tanyawilliams8254 6 дней назад +20

    Exactly ❤ Preach ladies, and Mehdi

  • @pensivelyrebelling
    @pensivelyrebelling 6 дней назад +10

    Such a great episode. I have enjoyed seeing this and other content from Amanda and Francesca!

  • @lisawilliamson5012
    @lisawilliamson5012 6 дней назад +12

    That felt good! Thank you!

  • @starshinedragonsong3045
    @starshinedragonsong3045 6 дней назад +30

    Did y'all see that Morning Joe is so scared of Trump's retribution that they went to bend the knee at Maralago?

    • @gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203
      @gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 6 дней назад +2

      They need to talk to both sides for transparent and quality reporting.

    • @patricksullivan7140
      @patricksullivan7140 5 дней назад

      Oh BS. MSNBC is circling the drain. They aren't scared of Trump. They ars trying to keep their high paying jobs. YOU PEOPLE ATE THE PROPAGANDA UP. 😂😂😂😂YOU GOT PLAYED 😂😂
      THEY NEVER BELIEVED ANY OF THE CRAP THEY PUSHED 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡

  • @hugos6444
    @hugos6444 День назад +2

    Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves as not as exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. - John Steinbeck

  • @spursfan5742
    @spursfan5742 6 дней назад +20

    I love Francesca! Thanks for having her on! ❤

  • @pamelajoy6037
    @pamelajoy6037 6 дней назад +4

    We do only have each other and we are all in this together!
    Thank-you ❤❤

  • @Vet1Michael
    @Vet1Michael 6 дней назад +12

    There are three things that are very hard; steel, diamonds, and to know one's self - Benjamin Franklin (allegedly). The Democrats have, since the 1990s, been running on corporate-friendly status quo and are not cognizant of the fact that neoliberalism, globalization, and faux meritocracy rhetoric is just not working for so many people. I agree, in large part, with Bernie Sanders and the Progressivist wing of the party: entrenched, life-long Democrats are unwilling to truly embrace a deep reflection on their core values and to offer real, substantial change for the American people.
    I've said since 2016 that Trump is not THE problem (as if when he disappears the racism, sexism, ignorance, hatred, bigotry, and political violence will just melt away), but merely a symptom of the root problem; that the system is corrupt and the American people are opting for destruction over restoration. Why defend "Democracy" if American political and social systems mean I get to struggle day-to-day? Why defend "Liberty" when the jobs my families thrived on disappear and my town dries up and dies off? Why worry about overt morality and pearl-clutching gasps in public while The System does that, or worse, behind closed doors?
    The long and short of it is this: I think Trump and MAGA are a horrible movement, their messaging and their attitude is repugnant to me, I donated and voted against them in 2016, 2020, and 2024. But to not acknowledge that real, radical change needs to happen is to shut one's eyes and hope (as Joe Biden did, as Nancy Pelosi did) that everything will be better once this aberration is gone is to set the stage for the next, more competent successor. Change is inevitable; what is not is how we address (or fail to address) that change

    • @carolbulmer8253
      @carolbulmer8253 6 дней назад +1

      Well said👏👏👏👏👏

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 6 дней назад

      Good points. As a society, there needs to be some collective soul searching. Even when times are difficult, the immediate reaction shouldn't be scapegoating, cruelty, and yielding rights because supposedly that'll help.

  • @spamfilter32
    @spamfilter32 6 дней назад +85

    "Democrats move riggt when they lose."
    They also move right when they win Mehdi. They also move right when they win.

    • @markfeland2285
      @markfeland2285 6 дней назад

      Biden was a surprise, the most left leaning administration since FDR

    • @truthteller2711
      @truthteller2711 6 дней назад +17

      Now Biden was objectively to the left of Obama

    • @Cold_Logic
      @Cold_Logic 6 дней назад +11

      The issue is that for liberals to vote they must fall in love, whereas conservatives just fall in line

    • @cyclonasaurusrex1525
      @cyclonasaurusrex1525 6 дней назад

      @@truthteller2711 Biden was a massively flawed messenger (in addition to being entrenched in the current class dynamic anyway).

    • @MrBazBake
      @MrBazBake 6 дней назад

      ​@@truthteller2711 Biden was to the left of Obama on labor. Which he bragged about. Which Dems were shocked by.
      He was to the right of Obama on policing, Palestine, welfare, Iran, green energy, immigration, and drug enforcement. Barack Obama was also not calling peaceful protestors terrorists.

  • @Cold_Logic
    @Cold_Logic 6 дней назад +21

    The US is about to experience some serious Salem Witch Trial energy ☠️

    • @wassum100
      @wassum100 5 дней назад

      I fear you may be right

  • @rasheeda1980
    @rasheeda1980 6 дней назад +13

    Can this panel be a regular thing!

  • @prismpyre7653
    @prismpyre7653 6 дней назад +18

    I'm a 'white' (totally unscientific term of course, but that's how maga voters "self-identify", or whatever..) southerner from the country- I grew up in the "Mayberry" traditional rural America that a lot of folks claim they want to "go back to" but know nothing of and aren't even a pale imitation of. I grew up among the "Silent" and "Greatest" generations with my grandparents. And I tell you- not only does maga not stand for the values of those people- they would be disgusted-- ESPECIALLY the rural-agrarian crowd. Know why? Because our values were fundamentally *COMMUNAL*. Just listen to the lyrics to "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" for F's sake "city folks lookin' in the backa limousines; lotta folks acting like that's some mighty King...." We did not believe that life was about money or chasing wealth and fame and we DID believe in helping our neighbors and kindness to strangers *REGARDLESS* what our priors were- REGARDLESS. In other words, someone could be horribly prejudiced against immigrants from a certain place or whatever, but that didn't mean they felt entitled to be rude or threatening to a stranger for no reason; they might even help someone they knew personally try to get a job or whatever even if they did it thinking "well he's one of the good ones so it's OK" -- they had FIRST-PRINCIPLES and VIRTUES that OVERRODE their prejudicies and biases. My grandfather was perfectly honest about the fact that he thought of African Americans as intellectually inferior when he was a young man and he was taught that, but nothing about that stopped him from being furious and disgusted when he found out his brother was trying to fiddle their Black workers out of some of their wages, taking advantage of the fact that many were illiterate. In his mind even if he thought of himself as "superior" that was not a license rob or harm people-- if anything it was considered the *OPPOSITE*. Groups like the FreeMasons were white-supremacist patriarchal societies and yet they were often the COUNTER-balance to the Klan because their whole ethos was one of "with great power comes great responsibility" where they thought of their precious pale peckers as a sacred trust from God- not an entitlement to be flouted about just for fun [and yes out west the masons WERE the klan basically, but on the east coast it was different and the western elements were the criminals and exiles and scoundrels of the east, basically]. They would have seen MAGA for exactly what they are- nihilistic degenerates who don't even know their neighbor's names, spend all day in front of a screen, and do nothing of service to others yet feel entitled to talk down to or take from others just for a cheap thrill. NO underlying values or ethics or beliefs AT ALL.

    • @prismpyre7653
      @prismpyre7653 6 дней назад

      P.S. They WILL *ABSOLUTELY* overcome their prejudices and pull the lever for a woman or a person of color *IF it's a person who seems GENUINE and makes them feel seen and heard and offers a MORAL vision and a CLEAR program to improve their MATERIAL conditions!!!* There was polling done around 1950 which showed that if Elanor Roosevelt had run for President; there's an excellent chance she could have won in 195freakin2. Alas- she could have got away with being a woman-- but she didn't run because being Gay was a bridge too far and the forerunner to J.D. Vance-- J.E. Hoover; unfortunately had the evidence to prove it....

    • @carolbulmer8253
      @carolbulmer8253 6 дней назад +3

      Well said.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 6 дней назад

      Good points. Most in these older generations would be fuming at what passes for a public servant these days, especially maga. Those folks look at politics as their personal combo of grievance gotcha and money train that'll drop some loot their way.

    • @nerdjournal
      @nerdjournal 6 дней назад

      I mean, It compounds, though. That idea of "intellectual superiority" was allowed to continue to fester due to the attack on education and the switch from covering news properly and informatively into the mad cash grabs of bias and propaganda, and it twisted it into more than just "intellectually superior" which is flawed concept that shouldn't be allowed to go unchallenged. Your Grandpa felt that way due to ignorance and instead of it ever being addresses properly it has now morphed into other generations. Now, teaching about racism and slavery is somehow an attack against white people. Sure, your Grandpa had some principles about workers rights, but we have to understand that just because your Grandpa had the minimum of principles, that doesn't mean the next person's grandpa did. I'm not trying to knock your GrandParents, but it's wild to overlook that someone thinks someone else is inferior just because you are against them getting paid less. I'm from the south, too, and a big part of the problem is centered on the destruction of genuine Education and the switch From news to the Fear Base Propaganda factories that want to pretend that someone like Trump ISN'T an extremist. Ultimately, it isn't any ONE specific thing like I said, it compounds, but the problem was that people like your Grandpa were allowed to continue thinking they were intellectually superior. It morphed over the generations into something more extreme, and that is due to news and educational failings.

  • @markfeland2285
    @markfeland2285 6 дней назад +12

    The obvious reasons are being ignored, it was propaganda vs policy and propaganda won

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 дней назад +4

      The Equal Time Doctrine was sure rolling in its grave.

    • @cassiusdhami9215
      @cassiusdhami9215 6 дней назад

      On that note, about the "propaganda". The right's methods aren't consistent, complicated, nuanced or sophisticated. In fact they're dated, repetitive, simplistic and transparent.
      Its the viewers who are very gullible and incapable of critical thought or self reflection.
      Both parties constantly cut education at both the federal and state levels. This is by the ruling class's design.
      You are not producing enough capable people. The LCD of 'Merica is underground.

    • @cius2112
      @cius2112 6 дней назад

      Democrats started a genocide and pretended they couldn't do anything about it.

    • @sarahtiferet9025
      @sarahtiferet9025 5 дней назад

      @@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Reagan got rid of the " Fairness Doctrine " which LEGALLY required both sides to get equal time and it had to be fact based . Once that got overturned then the way was paved for " Fox News " Scary and pathetic

    • @ladariva6619
      @ladariva6619 5 дней назад

      Kamala got policies?

  • @ribbrascal
    @ribbrascal 6 дней назад +7

    This is so fierce and radical 🙌🏻

  • @Treehugging_Leftie
    @Treehugging_Leftie 6 дней назад +10

    I enjoyed this discussion very much

  • @gs123
    @gs123 6 дней назад +13

    Really enjoyed this conversation from all parties 👍

  • @Traci_Websinger
    @Traci_Websinger 6 дней назад +8

    First time hearing this show, loved it. It's going on my rotation of things to watch for. Frankie is also on The Damage Report on Mondays, 1:00 ET. Gotta go catch it now. Bye!

  • @garysantos7053
    @garysantos7053 6 дней назад +8

    The Literacy Crisis in the U.S. is Deeply Concerning-and Totally Preventable
    That any child, let alone the majority of children, go to school without being taught to read is deeply concerning.
    The National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP), “the nation’s report card,” showed that not even half (43%) of fourth graders in the U.S. scored at or above a proficient level in reading. And for marginalized students, the numbers are much worse: just 17% of Black students, 21% of Latino students, 11% of students with disabilities, and 10% of multilingual learners can read proficiently by fourth grade. -edtrust

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 дней назад +4

      Literacy's a spectrum but the 50 year attack on American public education doesn't help.

    • @Lab2029-l1k
      @Lab2029-l1k 5 дней назад

      Remember, we tried head start, then no child left behind. Which is it?

    • @garysantos7053
      @garysantos7053 5 дней назад

      @@Lab2029-l1k
      There are teachers, and then there are teachers.
      “Most teachers are not.”

  • @Ivy-sp2td
    @Ivy-sp2td 6 дней назад +9

    This is brilliant

  • @TagusMan
    @TagusMan 6 дней назад +5

    Lovely bit of woketivist denial. Keep at it, brainiacs. The Republicans thank you for your service.

  • @disciple786
    @disciple786 6 дней назад +8

    Great panel. Definitely, should do this more often!

  • @YoutubeUserAnon
    @YoutubeUserAnon 6 дней назад +13

    For people who want a simple explanation for why the election went a certain way, there is a concept but it is tricky to tap into. Voters need to be activated to engage. How you do it can take many forms, but gotta strike the right rhythm/energy and feel real enough. Obama was great at this; regardless his flaws. Bernie is pretty good at it, too.

    • @SocialDrones
      @SocialDrones 6 дней назад

      @@RUclipsUserAnon Bernie and Obama are tactics of the past. They didn’t have RUclips channels radicalizing potential voters. Kamala could have called for a ceasefire and still lost this race. There are people who didn’t vote for her because they thought she was a witch. This country is racist and sexist. The end.

    • @badgerboy97
      @badgerboy97 6 дней назад +2

      Yeah, I’m a thorough progressive. And I voted Kamala. But it infuriated me that she pandered to the Cheneys and Sykes’ exclusively for the last month of the campaign. Progressives need to be excited to vote, too. People need to acknowledge Kamala made a lot of mistakes and was never a strong candidate to begin with.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 5 дней назад +1

      Kamala didn't have enough time to develop this. But she did get there at the end with her impressive speech at the Ellipse.

    • @EdwardLindon
      @EdwardLindon 4 дня назад

      Sometimes people just need to do what needs doing, whether the feel like it or not. Aren't any of those people who didn't vote parents?

  • @ludmilla1332
    @ludmilla1332 5 дней назад +2

    16:50 Amanda describing disfunctionality under dems as being remotely similar to MAGA/Trump dysfunctionality is nuts.

  • @anonimushbosh
    @anonimushbosh 6 дней назад +13

    Only question that matters is will lessons be learned or will they carry on as always?

    • @charisma-hornum-fries
      @charisma-hornum-fries 6 дней назад

      I think they'll stay the same as in they'll get more Republican.

    • @andreah6379
      @andreah6379 6 дней назад

      DNC is heading to make Rahm Emmanuel next Chair, who infamously said, "F' progressives," on a live mic.
      So, arrogance among Dem elites and establishment lives on...

    • @cassiusdhami9215
      @cassiusdhami9215 6 дней назад +2

      I think we know the answer to that.

    • @dan_hitchman007
      @dan_hitchman007 4 дня назад

      The corporate Dems will carry on as usual. They will try to normalize fascism just like the mainstream media tends to do.

  • @James_ER
    @James_ER 4 дня назад +1

    To Francesca's point, don't spend the next 4 years being stressed about all the bad news. You KNOW it's going to be bad. Try to do something productive with that anger.

  • @mh01769
    @mh01769 6 дней назад +10

    Love the conversations.

  • @davidandresen8195
    @davidandresen8195 6 дней назад +6

    Very interesting back and forth. First time hearing Amanda.

  • @madambluewave
    @madambluewave 6 дней назад +7

    You guys, we need to build a bigger progressive media ecosystem, not just left wing and not Democrat, but progressive because I feel like, even if they don't know it yet, a lot of Americans are progressive, but it's almost tabu right now. I mean who doesn't like progress!?
    I think you guys should give a course, or talk about how somebody would get into progressive media.
    Mehdi, you're my Taylor Swift lolol

  • @lamontbenjamin8458
    @lamontbenjamin8458 3 дня назад +2

    I don't think she has ever actually watched Joe Rogan because he has done none of those sexist racist things

  • @dl2725
    @dl2725 5 дней назад +5

    I love seeing Francesca on RM Brown on a Thursday, Medhi on a Monday 💪

    • @N1234G
      @N1234G 5 дней назад +1

      I forgot Francesca was on RM, Tks for the reminder. ❤

    • @N1234G
      @N1234G 5 дней назад +1

      Left is best

  • @rabeekofficial1696
    @rabeekofficial1696 6 дней назад +4

    Really amazing interview, even i don't know how my time was end, very enthusiastic debate.

  • @redfin382
    @redfin382 6 дней назад +17

    It's like that scene from Futurama. Fry is looking at poorer people and says ( I'm not sure exactly but this is th overall point) those people better watch out. Then Leela is like "Fry you are poor" then Fry says " well I'm going to be rich one day and then people like me better watch out!"

  • @PMartistStudio
    @PMartistStudio 6 дней назад +3

    Loved this episode! We are cultivating our arty community here on YT and off ❤

  • @dannykahn7468
    @dannykahn7468 6 дней назад +3

    this was stupendous mehdi... loved it!!!!

  • @beesie5474
    @beesie5474 6 дней назад +5

    I thought the same thing as Amanda when I saw Mehdi in a hoodie lol
    great conversation from you guys!

  • @Blackmenace7
    @Blackmenace7 5 дней назад +3

    But they forget they had Joe Rogan first. He was a huge Bernie Bro in 2016.

  • @aroadtorome7683
    @aroadtorome7683 6 дней назад +23

    A humble offering for the almighty algorithm.

  • @Olivetree00
    @Olivetree00 5 дней назад +3

    Mehdi was also doing to "It's your fault Kamala didn't win" spill. 2:36

  • @ceekay4649
    @ceekay4649 5 дней назад +2

    Great podcast. I'm thinking the next time you bring Amanda and Francesca on, you do it in person.

  • @evangelion2100
    @evangelion2100 6 дней назад +3

    I don't get the accusation, that the US voters hate women? In my opinion Harris lost because of her policies, her personality and the mistakes she made. Democrates would also have lost with Biden. And I'm assuming they would have lost with another male candidate if he would have had the same policies and the same personality as Harris'.

    • @EdwardLindon
      @EdwardLindon 4 дня назад

      "Personality" includes "being a woman". It's not deep.

    • @suzannemcvicker617
      @suzannemcvicker617 4 дня назад

      Democrats hate women. Let's be honest here.

  • @lotus550
    @lotus550 5 дней назад

    Amanda Seales… thanks for being BRILLIANT wherever you go! ✊🏽💜✊🏽

  • @hjd.3992
    @hjd.3992 6 дней назад +11

    if turnout is low = Republicans win.
    if turnout is high = Democrats win.

  • @armykayla9971
    @armykayla9971 4 дня назад

    I really enjoyed this conversation! I have never seen Francesca before, but she was refreshing while Amanda was so real. I appreciate a good push and pull like Amanda and Mehdi.

  • @yousreyakhalil5238
    @yousreyakhalil5238 6 дней назад +5

    I enjoy this show

  • @wassum100
    @wassum100 5 дней назад +2

    ‘Serve the billionaires differently’ , significant comment

  • @NYdr
    @NYdr 6 дней назад +9

    Used to love Amanda. Her narcissism gets in the way of intellectual clarity.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 дней назад +2

      Can we grow up + quit calling everyone + everything a psychological term? You can drift away or be turned off or outgrow someone without labelling them.

    • @LizzyMcD
      @LizzyMcD 6 дней назад

      Thanks, I agree

    • @EdwardLindon
      @EdwardLindon 4 дня назад +1

      @@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 Probably the least problematic instance of this: "narcissus" has been available as a metaphor for over 2000 years. It's not like saying "borderline" or "OCD". Also, trying to police how people speak by equating them to children ain't exactly a winning formula for persuasion or wisdom.

  • @jeffwithmaintenance6229
    @jeffwithmaintenance6229 6 дней назад +1

    Great show! Thank you.

  • @terriej123
    @terriej123 6 дней назад +4

    I’ll definitely come see Francesca live here in L.A.

  • @georgedennistonanderson242
    @georgedennistonanderson242 5 дней назад +1

    Totally agree the billionaires have got us looking at ourselves instead of the real elite

  • @prismpyre7653
    @prismpyre7653 6 дней назад +15

    I know a lotta Black folks who know who J. Clyburne is. And nearly all hate his guts. They know he's part of how we got here; how this party was crippled and cucked to neoliberal oligarchy and performative hallow social justice politics that they can then use as a scapegoat when they come through again like the professional losers that they are. Controlled-opposition. My Black BF does not follow politics or the news at all and has never been to university but that's the polosci term he used to sum up his perception of them and mine and a lot of other peoples', and Clyburne is ABSOLUTELY the face of that for many Black Americans just as much as Hillary is for non-minority women. lol and of course we both have to take credit/blame for Obama- who CREATED the monster that is Elon Musk among so many others, in his new aristocracy which was INEVITABLY going to turn on the arrogant fool who thinks he's the master of the party.

    • @jamesmedina2062
      @jamesmedina2062 6 дней назад

      I hate Obama and believe a lot of Trump's popularity in 2016 was simply the backlash against him. Obama was the ultimate betrayer and hypocrite. As soon as I saw him spewing bullshit about Harris I knew he was blowing it for her. The problem is that while he has great oratory skills he lacks substance and is loathed!!! Talk about adding to Kamala's woes.

    • @cassiusdhami9215
      @cassiusdhami9215 6 дней назад +1

      "First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
      I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress."
      - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 6 дней назад

      Well said. We don't need performative gestures, but a progressive, left leaning/Leftist party that represents the workers and all people's human rights. If even one group is oppressed, then the party/country isn't free.

  • @puravidahoy
    @puravidahoy 5 дней назад +1

    you 3 shld have a regular show called F.A.M.! because i love listening to all 3 of you and you feel like F.A.M.ily 💕💕💕

  • @SimpleSlave
    @SimpleSlave 6 дней назад +3

    "I don't need your votes. Don't go out and vote. We have enough votes." - Trump
    And how weird is it that the The Welfare Queen Billionaire, Elon, is so soooo close to the new president.
    We got sold, comrade. Or is it tongzhi? Can't even tell anymore.

  • @stewartalana
    @stewartalana 4 дня назад

    Amanda. Spot. On. 🙌🏽

  • @jvcyt298
    @jvcyt298 6 дней назад +3

    26:55, I hate what if, and, would-a-should-a-could-a, but if Biden kept his word, and declined to run for a second term, Harris would have been given the opportunity to compete with other candidates in a normal primary. We'll never know now, how that would have turned out. I, however, can understand why Biden thought that he had to stand up to Drumf again, but now, it's clear, that it was a bad idea.

  • @rapacious_rapscallion
    @rapacious_rapscallion 3 дня назад

    Love both Amanda and Francesca. Keep having them back.

  • @cerealeater7369
    @cerealeater7369 6 дней назад +4

    Exactly Amanda! I don't know who " we" is anymore either! Minorities for Trump broke my brain.

    • @cassiusdhami9215
      @cassiusdhami9215 6 дней назад

      Don't buy into the propaganda. Despite Trump's gains minorities still overwhelmingly voted for Kamala.
      Based on exit poles, 55% for Trump amongst white voters. The largest majority of any demographic. (No other demographic went over 45% total when accounting for both men/women.)
      So...
      That was misleading. White folks far and away voted for Trump.
      They elected him.

  • @Fal-911
    @Fal-911 5 дней назад +1

    Dems need to get rid of Pelosi immediately.

  • @Overcaffenated
    @Overcaffenated 6 дней назад +3

    Two points:
    1. Dem party being as flawed as it is (for the most part) a testament on the first-past-a-post election system. Only in this system can you have AOC and Manchin in the same party. In reality, both Dem and Rep party should break up into more parties and thus offer real choices.
    2. I love chocolate, I hate eggnog and sh!t is unimaginable to consume. So, if I must eat and I am offered only eggnog and sh!t, I'm going for eggnog!

  • @wassum100
    @wassum100 5 дней назад +1

    For me, Mehdi is the number one contender for filling the shoes of Christopher Hitchens, ironically

  • @erynpimentel915
    @erynpimentel915 6 дней назад +5

    This shit is fucked up- indeed.

  • @TheWildWahine
    @TheWildWahine 3 дня назад

    Yay!!! Franny. She’s sooo beautiful and smart. Amanda is great on here too!

  • @FreedomDaveX
    @FreedomDaveX 6 дней назад +4

    Sitting out the presidential election doesn’t hold the system accountable when the winner can get their mandate from less than a third of eligible voters. In this broken system, we should still exercise our civic duty and vote without the illusion that we are giving our consent to the party and candidate who we vote for. The presidential election is about choosing the enemy we wish to fight. I feel like the language of protest voters and non-voters is still framed by misconceptions of the presidential electoral system.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 дней назад +2

      I love this part you wrote:
      "The presidential election is about choosing the enemy we wish to fight."
      Very wise. I'm Canadian but I'm adopting this language too. Thank you.

    • @erinmac4750
      @erinmac4750 6 дней назад +1

      Well said! I heard AOC, Mehdi, and Bernie express this same idea in different words.

    • @FreedomDaveX
      @FreedomDaveX 6 дней назад

      ⁠@@erinmac4750Thank you. It’s really frustrating when some on the left make accusations of being a liberal or a party shill for insisting on voting for the Democrat. Disagreeing on strategy doesn’t make someone less left.

  • @marcimousie
    @marcimousie День назад +1

    The weird thing was definitely working. People can understand weird. They get weird. People don’t understand autocrat.

  • @Simpstewgriff
    @Simpstewgriff 6 дней назад +3

    We are tired of american elections talk about gaza lebanon sudan

  • @Aimossy
    @Aimossy 6 дней назад

    really good quality and enjoyable conversation. Thanks Mehdi, Amanda and Francesca!

  • @paulhammond6978
    @paulhammond6978 6 дней назад +3

    Ok, I am now obsessed with Francesca's lovely smile, at only 1:50

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 6 дней назад +1

      Her show --- the Bituation Room --- is really good & she's on her hubby's podcast a lot & Majority Report often.

  • @Tooldruid
    @Tooldruid 2 дня назад

    Best, most informative out there. Thank you, Mehdi. You're the man.

  • @jocosus3
    @jocosus3 6 дней назад +3

    I don't like living in #Idiocracy IRL | #FreeDumb

  • @yogi4lyfe
    @yogi4lyfe 2 дня назад

    Thank you!

  • @shahinchoudhury8256
    @shahinchoudhury8256 6 дней назад +11

    to understand how Western "mainstream" liberal media works : watch "manufacturing consent" by Noam Chomsky.

    • @franklittle8124
      @franklittle8124 6 дней назад +2

      Or better, read the book.

    • @Not1MoreWar
      @Not1MoreWar 6 дней назад +2

      Also "Understanding Power."
      "...jingoism, racism, fear, religious fundamentalism: these are the ways of appealing to people if you’re trying to organize a mass base of support for policies that are really intended to crush them."

    • @BoiseLou
      @BoiseLou 6 дней назад

      Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine ruclips.net/video/34LGPIXvU5M/видео.htmlsi=2PyUYcP_8zSInjwN

    • @jayleeper1512
      @jayleeper1512 6 дней назад +1

      First you have to realize the “Liberal Media” is not all that liberal.

    • @Not1MoreWar
      @Not1MoreWar 6 дней назад

      Also from Chomsky... "In 1937, the State Dept saw Fascism as compatible with US economic interests. Fascism must succeed or the masses, this time reinforced by the disillusioned middle class will turn to the Left."

  • @jaddas-b2n
    @jaddas-b2n 5 дней назад +1

    Even with all the spine in the world, saying "men can get pregnant" is coco land, before, now and forever.

  • @norwoodsstokes3883
    @norwoodsstokes3883 6 дней назад +4

    Mehdi.....has to called out the donor class....& i know that will put a damper on his funding but.....SAY IT.....why will democrat leadership move further......RIGHT.....👉👂👀🧐🤔🌝⌚⏳

  • @EvoSchecter
    @EvoSchecter 6 дней назад +2

    Good stuff!

  • @andreah6379
    @andreah6379 6 дней назад +9

    Mehdi: I like you BUT you didn't get what Bernie actually said about Biden--and here, you are just repeating BS.
    Bernie said, "...the stakes were so high in this election, that while Biden was far from doing the right things on many policies, we have fascists at our heels, and with only 2 viable options, he suggested Harris was our only way out, but to not stop pushing Dem party for much more progressive policies."
    Bernie NEVER said Biden was a savior or even great leader. From from it!
    Stay with the facts, Mehdi--don't get caught up with your co-hosts emotions.

    • @badgerboy97
      @badgerboy97 6 дней назад +1

      I was with you until that last part. lol, I’d love to hear what these two ladies think of that “emotions” crap

  • @babymonalisa
    @babymonalisa 5 дней назад

    Brilliant show, as always Medhi 🙏💕 Shouting out to my Frantifa fam!

  • @michaelbrown3703
    @michaelbrown3703 6 дней назад +2

    Divide and conquer!

  • @Stacia.01
    @Stacia.01 3 дня назад +1

    Depressing shit but this energy brought light to my day