The audio recording at 22:20 is honestly fantastic insight into the excitement people felt for this game. It definitely felt like I got transported back in time. Thank you for this video
Speaking about the scrollwheel buttons Sakurai suggested, I remember there were patents talking about it during the NX speculation days. I can't unsee how Breath of the Wild's item management looks tailor-made for a scrollwheel. You press and hold the scrollwheel, you scroll left and right to select an item, and then release.
It was particularly nice hearing the interview from Jonathan and his stories about E3. Thanks for bringing all this scattered info together for us, David!
That first documentary is a video I like to go back and watch every now and then. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into documenting the development of a childhood favorite of mine!
I remember seeing the videos and audio dairies a nearly 2 decades ago, in was fascinated by what NWR and PlanetGamecube had documented in Japan and I really like how oldschool it was. It was amazing, and I am so happy they put in this much effort into making it all happen. These are amazing time capsules thati from time to time look at a time long gone.
So glad to see a part 2! A few weeks ago I started playing a bunch of melee again going for 100%, and I rewatched a lot of your vids while doing it. The original doc is one of my favorite videos on the site and I’m so glad you’re back with more!
This era of gaming is always dear to me. The Gamecube was my first console and I remember vividly the ads it had, along with the PS2 and Xbox. I love history too, so this is my shit lol.
Heck yeah. So glad to hear it. I love this era as well. My earliest memories were the N64 era, which made this era extremely special for me as well since I was older and more appreciative of it.
Another great Melee primary source vid from David V. Kimball! Have you ever thought about reaching out to a Hal labs dev directly, other than Sakurai, for an interview? Preferably one that worked on character balance? I could see it being extremely eye-opening for the Melee scene, finally shedding light on so many mysteries that we've wanted answered for so long
@@thegameandwatch2799 I have actually reached out to HAL, and while their rep was very respectful, they were pretty clear about not wanting me to reach out to individual devs for this purpose. That hasn't stopped me from doing it anyway, but for their sake I have kept their comments confidential and won't be naming anyone I've talked to.
@@davidvkimball I respect the integrity in your decision. I'm thinking though that these individuals who worked on Melee may very well be happy to share their development knowledge, not in an association with HAL, just as a person. Do we know if the HAL devs of the time are restricted by any sort of NDA to discuss development?
I love this so much. Always wanted to learn more about the dev cycle and hear more in-depth interviews with all the devs, and hear their feelings on the game and where it is today as well
Thank you for the follow-up! The interview especially is wonderful. If anyone is trying to place the other baseball player in Seattle, that's Kazuhiro Sasaki, nicknamed Daimajin.
I get chills thinking of this game. I started playing it around the age of 4, and even then it captured me (i loved getting mr game and watch). What a great video man im looking forward to watching it
Reliving those childhood memories of my friends and I arguing about whether or not Sonic was secretly in Melee due to a certain April Fools joke. I was wrong :( but I always cherish my childhood memories of playing Melee with friends, my older brother and even his friends would let me play with them. Felt so magical. Great video David! Wonderful followup to Elevated.
Thank you very much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it. And great memories indeed, I remember thinking my friend was lying about how to unlock Mewtwo haha. Truly magical times.
53:49 To be truthful, I wouldn't quite hold my breath on anyone just happening to have a disc of Melee's E3 build outside of Nintendo or HAL Laboratory (be it the disc itself, or just the ISO on an internal computer drive), at least right now. Of what I've seen of the current prototype preservation landscape, showfloor builds of first/second-party Nintendo games looks to be as rare as they get. From the top of my head, we currently have 11 of them (counting Star Fox 2's WCES build… Maybe 12 if counting the ECTS build of Conker's Bad Fur Day?), and six of them are Pokémon titles. Doesn't mean that I'd refrain from biting my tongue forever though; Codebound showing up with Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga's E3 demo was definitely a surprise, as that was one of the lesser showfloor protos I've been wanting to play for years, and it's great to finally play around with it after over 20 years of its initial presentation… What I mean is, I do imagine we might get Melee's E3 build some day, most likely by unexpected surprise; But just based on the fact that it's Melee, I don't imagine acquiring the build would be as easy as just asking if someone happened to have it, as it would for say, the accidental early release of FNaF: Into the Pit.
59:30 I love the comparison of the models from different games & the coloring between Melee & Brawl. It is why I appreciate the character designs in the Smash series. It is something you rarely see back then in video games and why an artist like me loves the art styles in Smash.
I would like to see the E3 build datamined. Need clean audio versions of the coming soon and adventure clear themes. As well as the OG onett theme. Not to mention the original stage designs
"Enjoy Super Smash Bros. Melee not only during happy moments but also to lift your spirits during tough times. May you have a long-lasting relationship with Smash Bros. Melee" Man, if only they knew 🥲
46:20 mario jumps 1-2 seconds after an air dodge on right side of FoD. I don't remember if that concept or mechanic was mentioned in your previous doc or elsewhere, but I thought it was worth noting
Hey you're the guy that helped me with using m-ex! I didn't realize I was already a fan of yours for that previous doc. Nice work, and glad to see there's more!
@@dragozillasaur813 I'm sorry to hear that. I love the game just as a casual experience and a masterpiece of a game. I don't think you should let a game's community dictate how you feel about the work itself. Regarding your opinion about Yoshi's model, though. Fair. Lol
When are we going to uncover the game is just a child soldier recruitment program they diverted from? Pokemon was a splash into brainwashing and sold lottery tickets to kids. Then yugioh. Then melee.
@@davidvkimball the porygon episode was a stress test for lights on children. im a high functioning autistic savant with regional and national level exp with pokemon tcg, yugioh, magic and melee. in the same way annas taqueria's guacamole tastes like the color pink; that rock beats scissors, and 1+1=2, i view melee=psych warfare training as the same level of truth. i will do a zoom call abt this with u if u want. they pimped out pemdas with lcanelling to make it addictive.
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Awesome video!
@@TramiNguyen-oi3kp Thanks!
@@davidvkimball you’re welcome!
The audio recording at 22:20 is honestly fantastic insight into the excitement people felt for this game. It definitely felt like I got transported back in time. Thank you for this video
@@ryukoprop you're welcome! Yeah it was fun to go back in time.
that was so cool, he even noted the at the time Donkey Kong racing, and we all know what happens to that D:
@@Gabbycatty exactly. There's actually a lot more in that audio recording I took out, I recommend giving the original a good listen.
Speaking about the scrollwheel buttons Sakurai suggested, I remember there were patents talking about it during the NX speculation days. I can't unsee how Breath of the Wild's item management looks tailor-made for a scrollwheel.
You press and hold the scrollwheel, you scroll left and right to select an item, and then release.
Whoa, that's really interesting. I don't remember hearing about that.
That first documentary was phenomenal, excited to see what you’ve brought to the table this time man.
Thank you! This one's not quite the same speed as the first, just a casual follow up video to fill in some details.
I remember hearing ages ago about how in the Melee demo, Mario could chain grab everyone, which had to get nerfed
Oh really? Interesting I don't remember that
It was particularly nice hearing the interview from Jonathan and his stories about E3. Thanks for bringing all this scattered info together for us, David!
@@MetroAndroid you're so welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
That first documentary is a video I like to go back and watch every now and then. Thank you for all of the hard work you put into documenting the development of a childhood favorite of mine!
@@UltraNurture you're welcome! Thank you and I'm glad you enjoy these videos.
I remember seeing the videos and audio dairies a nearly 2 decades ago, in was fascinated by what NWR and PlanetGamecube had documented in Japan and I really like how oldschool it was. It was amazing, and I am so happy they put in this much effort into making it all happen. These are amazing time capsules thati from time to time look at a time long gone.
@@AngryDemonBowser couldn't agree more, that's so cool that you remember seeing them from back then. Thanks for your comment.
So glad to see a part 2! A few weeks ago I started playing a bunch of melee again going for 100%, and I rewatched a lot of your vids while doing it. The original doc is one of my favorite videos on the site and I’m so glad you’re back with more!
@@ChaosKoopasPlays thank you very much. I'm so glad you played again to go for 100%. How awesome.
This era of gaming is always dear to me. The Gamecube was my first console and I remember vividly the ads it had, along with the PS2 and Xbox. I love history too, so this is my shit lol.
Heck yeah. So glad to hear it. I love this era as well. My earliest memories were the N64 era, which made this era extremely special for me as well since I was older and more appreciative of it.
This is a great video. Nice work bro
@@cakehoarder thank you very much! I just watched some of your videos lol
Incredible video as always David !
20 seconds ago is crazy
Thank you! But have you watched it yet? 😅
video dropped 9 mins ago, you commented 7 mins ago.....this guys VOD watching is out of this realm, homie seen a whole 1hr in 2mins lol
@@JosePlays_ pretty impressive :D
@@davidvkimball Watching it at the moment haha
It's always such a pleasure to see your work, genuinely the best source for Melee knowledge on the website! Keep it up my friend!
@@TeamJustMark thank you very much! ❤️
Thanks for mentioning Consolevariations when showcasing the Dolpin! :)
Included a link to it in the description if you want the full writeup!
Your first documentary on melee's development was fantastic, Im so excited to watch more of it 🤩
Thank you so much!
I watched your first documentary, and i really loved it, i can't wait to watch this one right now!
Thank you very much!
Gotta say, there's a plentiful amount of great little details in this video. Nice watch overall!
@@Poyostar thank you! 🙏
Really nice stuff. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much!
Loved your first video, can't wait to watch this one once I return home.
Thank you very much! I hope you enjoy it!
stellar my man, absolutely stellar.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. ❤
Another great Melee primary source vid from David V. Kimball!
Have you ever thought about reaching out to a Hal labs dev directly, other than Sakurai, for an interview? Preferably one that worked on character balance? I could see it being extremely eye-opening for the Melee scene, finally shedding light on so many mysteries that we've wanted answered for so long
@@thegameandwatch2799 I have actually reached out to HAL, and while their rep was very respectful, they were pretty clear about not wanting me to reach out to individual devs for this purpose. That hasn't stopped me from doing it anyway, but for their sake I have kept their comments confidential and won't be naming anyone I've talked to.
@@davidvkimball I respect the integrity in your decision. I'm thinking though that these individuals who worked on Melee may very well be happy to share their development knowledge, not in an association with HAL, just as a person. Do we know if the HAL devs of the time are restricted by any sort of NDA to discuss development?
@@thegameandwatch2799 not sure about the specifics, I just don't want to get anyone in trouble.
I love this so much. Always wanted to learn more about the dev cycle and hear more in-depth interviews with all the devs, and hear their feelings on the game and where it is today as well
Thank you! I'm so glad you got value out of it.
Thank you for the follow-up! The interview especially is wonderful.
If anyone is trying to place the other baseball player in Seattle, that's Kazuhiro Sasaki, nicknamed Daimajin.
@@bb010g I was wondering whose name that other reference was! Thank you.
Great followup to the Melee Documentary! Never saw the HAL Labs Diaries before!
@@TheHylian64 thank you! 😌
I get chills thinking of this game. I started playing it around the age of 4, and even then it captured me (i loved getting mr game and watch). What a great video man im looking forward to watching it
Thank you very much! I also get chills thinking about when it came out. I was 9 years old.
Great video and great work man
Thanks, Mr. Johns
Reliving those childhood memories of my friends and I arguing about whether or not Sonic was secretly in Melee due to a certain April Fools joke. I was wrong :( but I always cherish my childhood memories of playing Melee with friends, my older brother and even his friends would let me play with them. Felt so magical. Great video David! Wonderful followup to Elevated.
Thank you very much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it. And great memories indeed, I remember thinking my friend was lying about how to unlock Mewtwo haha. Truly magical times.
Best and highest quality Smash Bros Channel online 🔥
@@noa670 that is very kind of you to say!
So excited to watch this!! Loved the first one man
@@coolbeans1998 thank you!
53:49 To be truthful, I wouldn't quite hold my breath on anyone just happening to have a disc of Melee's E3 build outside of Nintendo or HAL Laboratory (be it the disc itself, or just the ISO on an internal computer drive), at least right now. Of what I've seen of the current prototype preservation landscape, showfloor builds of first/second-party Nintendo games looks to be as rare as they get. From the top of my head, we currently have 11 of them (counting Star Fox 2's WCES build… Maybe 12 if counting the ECTS build of Conker's Bad Fur Day?), and six of them are Pokémon titles. Doesn't mean that I'd refrain from biting my tongue forever though; Codebound showing up with Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga's E3 demo was definitely a surprise, as that was one of the lesser showfloor protos I've been wanting to play for years, and it's great to finally play around with it after over 20 years of its initial presentation… What I mean is, I do imagine we might get Melee's E3 build some day, most likely by unexpected surprise; But just based on the fact that it's Melee, I don't imagine acquiring the build would be as easy as just asking if someone happened to have it, as it would for say, the accidental early release of FNaF: Into the Pit.
@@NunofYerbizness totally agree and I understand it's a tall order. But still worth calling out just in case!
This video is very good! As a dev, this short of time for this big a game, with this small a team, it's a miracle this game exists at all.
@@deathcatthor could not agree more. thanks for your kind words!
Happy 23rd Anniversary, Super Smash Brothers Melee (2001-2024)!
Indeed!
@@davidvkimball thank you, David!
59:30 I love the comparison of the models from different games & the coloring between Melee & Brawl. It is why I appreciate the character designs in the Smash series. It is something you rarely see back then in video games and why an artist like me loves the art styles in Smash.
So cool, right?
@davidvkimball Indeed, it is!
26:28 looks like falcons down throw used to be similar to snake's down throw maybe?
@@superepicproportions I don't think so, looks more like just less knock back on it.
I love those audio diaries for the E3.
They're so good, right? So glad Jonny recorded those.
THE RETURN OF THE KING!!!
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this is an amazing video, nice work.
@@comiclysmallspoon6652 thank you very much!
I would like to see the E3 build datamined. Need clean audio versions of the coming soon and adventure clear themes. As well as the OG onett theme. Not to mention the original stage designs
@@Cactus7654 yes!!
"Enjoy Super Smash Bros. Melee not only during happy moments but also to lift your spirits during tough times. May you have a long-lasting relationship with Smash Bros. Melee"
Man, if only they knew 🥲
I thought it was poetic.
46:20 mario jumps 1-2 seconds after an air dodge on right side of FoD. I don't remember if that concept or mechanic was mentioned in your previous doc or elsewhere, but I thought it was worth noting
Thank you! Yeah I completely missed that. Really cool to see.
wow, good call. can you imagine if you could jump after air dodges in melee? wavedashes might be safer too
@@papadelta9485 I'm a fan of being actionable after air dodge like in rivals of aether. Gives lots of mixups which is fun
This is so AWESOME
@@thegamingguy1 thank you!
I loved the 64 remade music that was on here
Glad you enjoyed it! I have a link in the description if you want the whole playlist.
Uploaded 18 minutes ago, Best hour of my life.
Time-traveler? Thanks, I hope you enjoy it!
@@davidvkimball ty gl on yt bb
@@jakedewitt3945 much appreciated 🙏
I had experienced the development Timeline of Super Smash Bros Series, and melee one is so long
What do you mean?
@@davidvkimball i have expanded development timelines of each smash game by going through previous games from other series
Lets go the legend has return!
@@BuddyHolly94-e4j ❤️
気にするな literally means "don't give it your energy" I love japanese man
@@Dionaea_floridensis what's the context for this? I want to put it into context haha
@davidvkimball what Fox says in Japanese for his victory quote lol
@@Dionaea_floridensis ah, thanks haha
One hour video? Let's goooo
Yes! Please enjoy. It's a deep dive into some dev-exclusive info.
OHHHH THIS IS GONNA BE PEAK
@@DrewOPowell 😌 thank you!
Hey you're the guy that helped me with using m-ex! I didn't realize I was already a fan of yours for that previous doc. Nice work, and glad to see there's more!
@@DrunkenHotei thank you. 😌
3:21 where can i find a video of those leather wearing people presenting game cubes on stage
I believe it's the E3 2000 GameCube unveiling.
Got to wonder how mario kart gp had same formating as melee. Maybe initial format for dolphin development
Nintendo world report is still going?!?!
@@bluebaron6858 alive and well!
I missed you!!!! 🥺
@@JnL_SSBM thanks, likewise. 😌
Oh this is about to be good
Thanks. Please enjoy it.
I miss my wife
I'm sorry to hear that
1 hour wow
melee is a crazy game
@@ZzigZaG00NIN enjoy!
Based and melee-pilled
@@CHUNGAandNANOOK 👍
Hey - looking forward to watching this! Seems like your merch links aren't working? Maybe it's just me.
Hey, thank you VERY much. It was down. I just fixed it!
So wicked!
@@tutata thanks!
OMG ITS TIME TO EAT
Enjoy!
Love the videos also first enjoyed the vid
Thank you, hopefully you'll watch it more than a few minutes. 😉
@@davidvkimball lol I’ll rewatch it like the others once I’m done watching it for now🧚🏽 ✨✨✨
@@Broken_Code Much appreciated ♥
can the old title screen some how be re-imported?
Yes it can! I've done it
i miss melee
@@BreakfastKids why miss it? It hasn't gone anywhere!
Hello fellow nerds. Melee is just the best.
shoutout barry
@@dwite3657 the MVP!
i always hated brawl's art direction. why would you "unify" the worlds when they're each so well designed already?
@@7373walker well there does need to be a sense of cohesion in a game or else it will feel scattered and disparate.
Gojira
@@CHUNGAandNANOOK ?
@@davidvkimball algo
DONKEY KONG RACING???
@@juliwomp yeah, canceled title
55:35 hmmmmmmm😏
@@thepoonhound3003 ?
@@davidvkimball oh lol i gave the wrong timestamp before, my bad
4th
...times a charm.
I still believe Melee is overrated, The Competitive scene ruined for me and I HATE Yoshi's Model in Melee
@@dragozillasaur813 I'm sorry to hear that. I love the game just as a casual experience and a masterpiece of a game. I don't think you should let a game's community dictate how you feel about the work itself. Regarding your opinion about Yoshi's model, though. Fair. Lol
When are we going to uncover the game is just a child soldier recruitment program they diverted from? Pokemon was a splash into brainwashing and sold lottery tickets to kids. Then yugioh. Then melee.
what? lol
@@davidvkimball the porygon episode was a stress test for lights on children. im a high functioning autistic savant with regional and national level exp with pokemon tcg, yugioh, magic and melee. in the same way annas taqueria's guacamole tastes like the color pink; that rock beats scissors, and 1+1=2, i view melee=psych warfare training as the same level of truth. i will do a zoom call abt this with u if u want. they pimped out pemdas with lcanelling to make it addictive.
Salvation: repent(change your mind about sin and attitude to the way God sees it.) and trust in Jesus
Amen!
46:19 apparently you could jump after airdodging
@@saturnjr9136 whoa!! Good catch lol
Oh hell yes I know what I'm doing for an hour
Thank you very much, I hope you enjoy it!