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The Boys Creator HATES that you LOVE their villains
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Ever wondered why Hollywood screenwriters struggle with creating compelling characters but excel at crafting captivating villains? Discover the secrets behind the creation of iconic characters like Homelander and why Hollywood writers are not fans of audiences loving their villains. Subscribe for more intriguing discussions on Hollywood's complex characters!
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They don’t hate you liking the villain, they hate you thinking the villain is the mindset you should adopt in the real world lmao.
Pretty sure its not that deep with hollywood
@@kennnnn Its because their villains are intended to be straw men that represent people they don't like.
@@kennnnn I find it way more likely than the idea that all the people are only ironically liking these characters. I only think it's naive to be surprised that when you model your bad guy after someone who literally has a cult following that the members of that cult won't genuinely like and identify with that character.
They say it would take someone with no empathy not to relate to those humanizing moments and start to relate to them. That's not the problem. People with no empathy only relate to what they, know and have experienced and are incapable of put themselves into the shoes of someone else. Ex. Not being able to truly imagine what it might be like to be gay or trans and understand how truly awful it would be to say who you are inside is not valid.
I like and appreciate that these are great complex characters, but in the end i still recognize they are the bad guys and that ironically acting otherwise is fucking stupid, and genuinely liking and supporting these characters really says something about you.
I love breaking bad. I liked Walt up until the shot of that Lilly of the valley at the end of season 4. Every watchthrough after that I realized earlier and earlier where it was clear Walt was wrong until I realized it was in the very beginning when he turned down the job at the company he help start saying it was charity when his friend flat out said that part of the company is rightfully his. It wasn't charity, it would have been payback.
I even went from hating skylar to feling so bad for her. She went from being an inattentive, even nagging wife, to a truely caring and supportive partner when she found out he was sick. My wife, who turned on walt when he didnt save jesse's girlfriend when he is the one who knocked her over. (I didnt even notice that until she pointed it out) She suggested that the first BB watchthrough could be a test for sociopathy, depending when you start to hate walt, thats how much of a sociopath you are.
-Creates some of the best villains you've seen in years
-Hates you for liking them
What did they mean by this?
This guy gets it!
Liking them by adapting their ideology in real life and defending it. It's not that hard to use your brain, guys...
Is there a lore reason
The best villians are the ones you can't look away from.
Homelander, Joker, Thanos, Anton Chigurh, the list goes on. They're endlessly entertaining, and even if we want them to lose, we want them to stick around as long as they need to. We want them to have a full arc, or at least a death worthy of their character.
Exactly! We can be invested in their character and thoroughly enjoy when they're on screen and still understand they are the bad guys.... but that also means we won't be happy if their deaths are not worthy for such a complex adversary
I always find that interesting with show runners. They do hate it when you love their bad guys. But like you guys said, they tend to forget about their heroes. The ones you want us routing for. The make them less complex and refrain from giving them flaws or making them”morally wrong” choices. Even if those “morally wrong” choices would create growth from consequence.
Exactly and in result, the characters they want us to like are usually so boring whereas the "villians" are multifaceted, complex, and entertaining. We don't want to be them, but boy are they enjoyable to watch
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I love the honelander my favorite villain. He is so strong so invincible. But so insecure so afraid to be abandoned. He is finally over coming his insecurities. I am loving this new season he is gonna be the best he can be.
Have you guys watched st deep space nine? Gul dukat was one of those amazing charactera
Yes I have and that is a perfect example!
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When you're watching social commentary and you don't understand it's social commentary you're probably it's subject.
Hahaha through your obsession you actually create the perfect character.... priceless
Yeah, this is why we cant have nice things. You might enjoy it for the wrong reasons.
You guys made a good point. Maybe you shouldn’t have your best actors playing the villains. Whenever this happens, the audience is going to enjoy their performances and as a result, like them a little bit more. Heath ledger did such a great job in playing the Joker that people enjoyed his character even though he was a sociopath and sadistic killer. Joaquin Phoenix playing the Joker as well did such a good job that people could find themselves empathizing with his character. When these actors do such a great job in playing these characters, it causes many of us in the audience to visualize ourselves in their position. Causing us to walk in their shoes so to speak and see how we would deal with the situation that they may be going through. But there’s also another component that we have to admit to. People tend to enjoy watching the bad guy in movies and TV shows because the bad guy tends to be the most interesting. As much as we like Luke Skywalker in the Star Wars movies 🍿, we have to admit that we enjoy watching Darth Vader even more so. He’s interesting. We think to ourselves “what would I do if I had all that power and control”? We live in a world where there’s a general saying “Nice guys finish last”. It’s a subliminal thought that many people have. It’s no wonder that when many of our directors make movies 🎥, they tend to make the bad guy more interesting than the nice guy. People are just fascinated with the bad guy. Many leaders of different nations are considered bad guys. Many women love dating the bad boy. This fascination of the bad guy is all around us so it’s no wonder that people love the villains in movies and TV shows. But what do I know. I talk in third person 😊.
Yeah. People liking homelander (whether its the comic or the show) is VERY similar to people who like the joker from DC or carnage from Marvel. Great comment. Homelander isnt real, so who cares if people think he's cool. Watchimg heroes and villians is supposed to be fun and engaging.
(I am not trying to sound in a offensive and toxic way)
I didn’t like the villains and I didn’t watch this show and I didn’t make this video and I am not in this video
clever, you ai create the faces to avoid copyright issues :)
Hmm not sure what you mean? What faces? And how would that avoid copyright issues?
Wait, I thought Homelander was the real hero and the Boyz were a terrorist group?
If you didn't want us to love Homelander maybe you shouldn't have picked the literally best actor in the world to play that particular character.
And bonus, I definitely don't see Trump, all I see is hot Kiwi!
So you have a parasocial relationship with Anthony Starr?
@@jonathonnorden4859 Noo I think he’s hot and a great actor. In the olden days I believe it was called being a fan.
I think no one saw Trump until they were told to because it's just not there. And honestly is season 4 it's really blurring the lines about who the heroes and bad guys actually are because they keep receiving more awful things about the boys and keep humanizing homelander
It’s kinda hard bot to draw comparisons between Homelander and Trump when they both clearly have a toxic need for approval and adoration from the masses and they both attempted to take over the White House illegally. I think the most important aspect to realize is that Homelander isn’t a Trump stand-in. Trump embodies Homelanders’ character from the graphic novel. So doing Homelander justice in the show means you’re going to see a lot of Trump in him after the past 8 years of American politics and news coverage.
With regards to the books, part of me feels like homelander is just a side villian, where as the show makes him the main villain. I and others feel like the main villian of the boys are the people in the background who we don't notice right away who let truly horrible people go to continue the cycle. Vought are the true villians. If it wasnt homelander, some other super star would take the spot so Vought can hide their misdeeds to keep selling heroes and make more money.
The only thing good about the show are like main villains other than that it's just another typical Woke garbage.
They put so much effort into the villains than every other character.
This show makes fun of everyone. The woke think this show is offensive. Yall two sides of the same coin
@@pinkyogurt6359 The only thing the Woke hate is that we love how the villains are better than the heroes. Because the villains are Anti-Woke and we root for them.
@Xcutioner220
The villans absolutely aren't lol. Homelander has a god complex he doesn't care about anything or anyone besides himself, especially your politics. That's why I root for homelander. He doesn't take a side. In his eyes you're all equally worthless. This thing is woke I'm triggered, this thing is offensive to women I'm triggered wah wah.
It's the same thing.
@@pinkyogurt6359 No wonder why him and Soldier Boy are like my favorite characters on the show.