Is Acustica Dove better than Soothe 2?
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Acustica Dove is a resonance supression plugin with some twists.
But is it better than Oeksound Soothe 2? 
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I find DSEQ3 to be the best and one of the cheapest as well 🤷🏾♂️
I choose Soothe2..Really better.
Would there be a situation where you would try Dove over Soothe?
@@happyshadow dove better for vocals... in every other instances 100% soothe2
Hmmmm I’ve been a pro mixer for the past 10 years and I gotta say, release and attack characteristics on a resonance suppression tool is TOO much for me to hear and interpret. Release and attack times we get it, but curves and knees and all that? Nope! Soothe is simple, it just works!
Yeah Soothe is great at being invisible as well as intuitive to dial in to specific areas.
No it's not, soothe is way more effective and much easier to use.
My thoughts exactly
Soothe 2 all the way for me
Great comparison, Marlon!
Thanks!
I use none of them (melda user) but if I would have to choose would go acoustica, they do make nice stuff
Hmmm... Very interesting comparison. Dove gives more natural sound for my ears. Than you for video!
Thank you! money saved ;-)
You are welcome! ^^
I don't see why you'd want to do your resonance suppression and colorbox stuff in the same pass... Of course it's going to sound pleasing to the ear it's a color box! I doubt it's as surgical which is what I would think you would be looking for in resonance suppression! The The trackspacer trick might be something more suited towards acoustica.... Does it have the mid side part of that plugin?
one more proof that soothe does a great job
Soothe is definitely much easier to dial in. But, I did pick up Dove. Intro price + voucher, much more reasonable price at the cost of simplicity so I'll take it. Its easy to over do it on Dove vs Soothe. But I think Dove can sound better.
A great review and great comparison, thank you! While it is great to compare it to Soothe 2, I'm glad that you emphasised that this is a different plugin, working in a different way, and it gives different results. Soothe 2 is better at what it does, I'm sure (don't have it); whereas Dove is better at what it does - but with poorly optimised CPU useage and no true zero latency. Having looked at Acustica Audio's comments about this release, they have themselves emphasised that this does not work the same as Soothe 2, so I wasn't expecting similar results. But now at least I have an idea of what it is doing! Having demoed it myself, I knew it sounded good, though!
As for me, I'll be sticking with EQ for resonances and I'm fine with my current compressors. And the lovely Dove sound? It's not a good fit for the music I work on.
Nicely summed up! I am always a bit skeptical when a developer does comments like Acustica has done with this release. Just as their claims they don’t look at other developers when they did this one.
Soothe is great when you have a specific task in mind, intuitive and easy.
Dove is great when you want a more gluey compressed sort of smoothing.
Both have their purpose.
Dove is more similar to oeksound’s bloom for sure. But people tend to make the comparison to soothe, hence this video.
@@whitenoisestudio I actually think Spiff is a much more useful tool.
You can get the fattest sounding drums when you go slightly overboard softening the high frequency transients, pushing into a nice saturation plugin then compassion.
I'm gonna leave this typo as it's way more sexy
We need more compassion anyways.
I choose soothe or DSEQ3 by TBPRO
Ok, but what is the first song? Shazam didnt found it
Unrelated to this plugin. Have you tested the over sampling on Ash with its x1024 setting? I would love to know what CPU can handle that. Lol.
Haha no :-)
Please i NEED more info on that amazing song @0:40, this is AWESOME.
For real it goes craaazy
For ducking, I prefer Trackspacer.
plz compare "unfilter" !
Can you compare Soothe 2 with MSpectralDynamics?
yes you can ,also dseq3 (very close indeed)
They are actually different in the sense that MSD doesn't find resonances. Other than that, MSD is much better for spectral ducking than Soothe2. Have you demoed it? You should try that.
Dude, who's that tune by, the whole tune not the bits, with the female singer and tight snare? Also I thought that the plugin having unlimited CPU use was f**king hysterical! Must try harder! ;D
That tune is unreleased right now, and by me. need to finish it a.s.a.p/
@@whitenoisestudio Wow, that's a cool tune, I remember an old band called Curve...been a long time but reminded me? Maybe? But eh, that's a cool tune, well done! That CPU thing still makes me chuckle! I'm sure they'll sort it code being mad and all that but eh? 😅
Of course, I know Curve! Horrorhead and Doppelganger are great tunes, that whole album rocks. Give me some shoegaze any day.
CPU with Acustica? I highly doubt it. Even their Multithread version of this plugin runs like a** if you crank the sensitivity dial.
@@whitenoisestudio I had Doppelganger back in the day but a lot of music happened since then, from that Era, I'll mention The Chameleons and Wedding Present, they're obscure, you may know but if not eh, have listen, The Chameleons never sold out, pure gold if you like that kind of thing....have a fun day buddy and thanks for your reply's, cool! A** indeed! xD
People are begging to learn more about this killer song you use in your awesome videos. PLEASE dude, give us some info, is this song @0:40 released? title? anything 😂
No
short answer: No.
Soothe
Acustica have never been good with optimisation.
I don't see the point of all the analog modeling in this plugin , there are plenty of places in the mix to use analog modeled plugins but removing resonances and harshness should be digitally surgical with no extra frills imo ..
I think so too.
giving a resonance suppressor a sound by compression models is clearly going to change the sound you start from, and it's evident in the electric guitar example. It doesn't just removes freqs peaks, it evidently changes the resulting sound. I think here the point is not if the result is "pleasant", but how the initial sound is preserved after some resonances gone tamed. if i wanted to change the sound i would have used other tools instead of a resonance suppressor. Personally in many cases much cheaper tools like Reso or Smooth Operator are good enough to get the job done. Then if you have some really nasty badly recorded track, well i understand why in latest years these kind of plugins came out... people should spend some more money to learn how to make a great recording instead of buying a great plugin to save a bad one! 😎
Yeah people should, but it isnt happening. There are way more recordings these days and a quite a few of them are done in terrible conditions, bad room, bad gear and so on. good room + good mic + good preamp will absolutely do anyone some favors in regard of no need to ''fix'' something. A lot of music is done in the box as well and that's were plugin like this are needed as well . From time to time ;-)
They've even priced it below Soothe 2...What does that tell you? (Given AA are by far the most overpriced)
I don't want to buy another pluging, but, where is the zero latency mode on soothe2... don't understand why they let this plugin like that, unusable in live situation...
Acustica stuff is really good but to heavy and CPU killer
Do you even understand what software optimization is? In particular, Voltaire's kernel
*volterra
yo wut is that song??
I’m gonna have to try Dove. I own Doothe 2 already and hardly use it
Depends for what you will need it :-)
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️it’s overwhelming
We’ve have enough plugins like this already
I dont think so - competition between developers is good for us as customers.
I have soothe and i am also a unashamed AA fanboy, with their quirks and all. I look at this as a "character" Soothe. It offers more than soothe when it comes to the dynamic shaping. But it comes with the AA quirks. They are the Lamborghini Countach of the plug in world. Supercar with the keyhole under the door.
BTW there is Multithread version now, to go with the 11 other versions of the plug in. Much lower CPU.
Thanks for sharing! Have to check to multithread version out. Yeah, Acustica and their quirks are definitely a thing.
How they do updates is one of them - they release and the next days after they do updates. A multithread version should have been included right away with their 11 other versions.
For instance I had a part on the resizing of the GUI, but I saw in an update they included more resize options - so that part could be deleted from the video.
I often wonder how they do their beta reviewing process - it doesn't seem smooth at all, this Cubase usage should have been found in beta testing since they state Cubase as supported DAW.
I absolutely dread that that have to have separate plugins for 3D vs "flat" GUI. Then a separate plugin for zero latency. Which of course then you need a 3DZL and FlatZL. There should be two plugins at most. 3D vs Flat could arguably just be a skin choice. But then of course there is certain instances where they have... More features on a flat skinned version.
Idk wtf they're doing. Lol.
@taylor370z Me neither. They're the only company who does that, I assume their framework simply isnt flexible enough to make it 1 plugin.
Not buying anything acustica...until they fix their cpu slamming problem. No question that they sound good, but not going to use a plugin that is not CPU efficient, especially on very big mixes... getting fed up with their plugins.
Was just gonna say. I made the horrible mistake of switching to Lace as my limiter for a week and Pro Tools did NOT wanna play nice
oh god, pls don't make me want another plugin 😅
Not trying to!
Acustica has the worst GUI plugins, and the optimization is so bad it can make the best computer crash with just one plugin active
O i found that this GUI was pretty ok actually. Optimization on the other hand........ not so ok.
Soothe 2 is considerably better......
I'm staying away from AA after crunching my audio with a single plugin - I have 12 cores M2 max and 64GB RAM FFS
It’s not a ram issue but CPU. But I feel you.
@@whitenoisestudio 12 core??
Yeah I meant from Acustica’s side. They should absolutely optimise. I run 12 cores as well, I even have multicore enabled in Cubase.
It certainly looks like Soothe2.
Ts ts ts…no shame.
Dove sounds better to me, because its more analogish sounding, less digital.
Dove Sounds always better than soothe, if You play more accurate with the selective parameter. In the example of the snare, it was way to broutg
It was an example to show the sound. Subtleties get lost on youtube. But the difference in ability to tackle that hihat bleedcannot be denied. If you turn op dove more, it will butcher the snare attack.
@@whitenoisestudio Ah I see. You are right.
Bye te way: TB Audio pro Desq is a good one too.
The question is; is this a ripoff of Soothe 2?
The answer is obviously yes.
Acustica mentions it isnt, but one cannot deny the similarities.
@@whitenoisestudiothe similarities are undeniable but Acustica is basically being honest when they say it isn’t a ripoff of Soothe.
I feel like is Soothe 2 really set up to correct. Dove is doing that and something more. Sounds really nice.
Dove is like a Dutchman talking English……. It sounds silly
Nice burn ;-) 100 points!
Dove for music is much better than soothe
Tell us why you think that, curious to find out :-)
@@whitenoisestudio Dove works on dynamic convolution not on spectral or fft modes like other tools.Then you can choose different dynamic models.The Giga Resolution combined with The selectivity knob gives you a better sound especially on transients. As a mastering engineer this is a crucial aspect for me.
I find that Dove can get too aggressive on transients in comparison with Soothe 2. The attack / release controls on Soothe 2 workj , in my opinion, better.
That said, I try to avoid to any kind of this plugin in mastering for my clients, unless I have no choice.
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