I don't understand how their fanbase got so toxic so fast...they even hate on BTS....who basically made NJs possible....and gave them a successful global debut.
MHJ and NJ didn't want Hybes involvement in Ador I think they should deal with this on their own. So they can see what happens when no one has their back
@@user-ke3ur5ej8tyeah but after they were created they got the hybe because they were in hybe labels, after they got the hype, they didnt want any involvement with hybe
@@SwastikaRai-tr9zp HYBE invested 100% and when NJ have success gave percentage of the share to MHJ. MHJ tried to bite the hands that feed her or helped her already ruined jobs from SM. She sold info of SM artists to reporters and paparazzi
MHJ invited this scrutiny by accusing everyone and their mothers of copying her 💀 the hypocrisy is blatant!! I definitely hear the similarities with Shakatak despite how many times bunnies will tell you “they don’t even sound similar” but New Jeans don’t deserve to make not money from it, I hope Ador can settle a deal where they pay for the sample and still get to perform it! But this will be a lesson, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones 🫢
Mislim, da je sedaj to prepozno. Min Heejin izgublja na vseh področjih. Zdaj je bolj pikantna novica, da so aretirali CEO direktorja KAKAO. Min Heejin pa tesno sodeluje z njim. Kdor visoko leti, nizko pade in to zelo hitro.
You CANNOT backtrack and add sampling to a song!!!! The sampling rights MUST be addressed BEFORE the release of any and all songs!!!! MHJ is in deep 💩 of her own making!!!!
They can do money from this but they have to paid the rights for using the original song so the original composers keeps the benefits of their creation.
It's funny how Bunnies were saying this was a sample in the beginning. Now "they don't sound similar, and we found another song with the same chord progression, so actually Shakatak is the real plagiarist!" LOL 😂
What poetic justice this is. To be fair, MHJ didn't write that song. But this is just perfect because of how thoughtlessly she threw around plagiarism accusations against illit, using content made by spectators and consumers as her "evidence" instead of actually having all the data analysed by professionals with real knowledge. People like to cry plagiarism without knowing the meaning or the legal parameters behind it, and MHJ is certainly one of them. Honestly, how is someone so ignorant and careless the CEO of a company? And people are calling her a hero?? Maybe through this lawsuit, she'll finally learn what it actually means to plagiarise.
@@VerucaS9lt Plagiarism is the act of taking someone else's written work and presenting it as your own. This is a clear example of copyright infringement. This may involve replicating a melody, lyrics, or entire compositions. So this is plagiarisme. Difference 1BPM
MHJ did not write any songs, she is not a musician. She began her career as a graphic designer and then became a creative director. I don't know what spell she cast against BSH, to get appointed CEO without any economic-financial expertise.
This is damaging Hybe, (who does everything how it should be ) and Ador together. She made a farce majeur with this ( actually the 2nd after copying Jeans and their layout)
Can you sue someone in another country for copyright infringement? Quora: Yes. This is essentially the basis of the Berne Convention which was created in 1986 and today has 176 signatory countries. In fact, you must use the provisions that the foreign country offers its local to enforce your copyrights.... She who shall not be named ...... has another lawsuit to fight. Getting quite a list there....lol
The thing is that this is not how BSH or BigHit does business. They credit original artists. They ask and pay for permission. Examples include "Born SInger," "Am I Wrong," and "Chicken Noodle Soup."
This is why MHJ during the first press conference said "doesn't he know how to do business?", with the audacity of an employee towards the founder of Bighit, Hybe and Ador.
its funny because bighit has paid original artists so j-hope could remake chicken noodle soup and sample shimmy shimmy ya for what if. j-hope even credited the artists. its upto the people involved to get their labels to pay original artists. im sure heejin was informed but she didnt do anything about it. heejin and her brats are so entitled!! i hope this goes to court.
And when you think how long Agust D song was outside streaming platforms bc of sample, that they only go clear go in 2022. That is also why RM first mixtape is only on soundcloud, bc all song have samples, and it is in fair use if it is for free and not performed, etc.
Yes and being a fan of Shakatak I also said the same thing, I was furious. I knew Kpop companies in the past have done this many time's before but because they are such a nice market they got away with it. That's why when I found out about BTS I was so happy that when they sample they pay for those samples and pay homage to their influences. Somehow that didn't rub off on Ms Min & NJ but then Ms Min came from SM who have very often sampled and out right copied Western Artist work without permission and/or paying for it.
Have you notice that NJ's views are not much like before? MHJ should answer to this "ALONE" since she wanted to separate from HYBE. Source Music has file a lawsuit against Ador and now this one.
Thats because several of their casual listener and supporters were from Armies. So now armies stopped being their supporter and casual listener...so well!
I feel bad for the girls getting stuck in the middle of this. Even some of our Boys have mentioned enjoying their songs. She really didn't think that through before trying to drag BTS into her drama, and talk $#!+. Her shaman was shortsighted also. Shoulda told her it wasn't enough to send Bangtan away to the military. Don't mess with ARMY.
I'm glad that MHJ is getting called on her so-called "creativity", which is actually just copy-cat nonsense. But, I'm sad that it's Hybe that is having to clean up her mess, and the money to pay the potential damages will come from Hybe. This woman has done nothing but cost Hybe money!
I think ador will pay from their label money and earnings which will put the label on red .. and if they need to pay more than what they have hybe probably will bail them out but that will put them in debt owing hybe money .. as bad as that sound ‘hybe losing money’ it’s actually good for hybe cuz if the damages are around a million then they can fire her cuz she caused damage to the label
She is accusing ILLIT copying NJ without proper evidence and made many kpop fans especially NJ stans hate ILLIT but now she's the one is accused of plagiarizing by international artist themselves that's what i called "karma".
Glad Shakatak has filed suit! Paying homage to a group is one thing, ripping them off is completely different! Hold MHJ and those girls accountable! Yes, Hybe owns Adore but hopefully all will see this is all on that smiling guilty woman! She needs to be fired NOW, without Hybe having to pay her a dime! Shakatak has been around a long time, that's not achieved by being a push-over! This unhinged woman has ruined her own career! Sean, thank you for this juicy update!
Hybe could actually tell them they're so ashamed by Mhj, NJ and adors actions. They had no idea they were doing this pull the money from adors funds to pay them while publicly shaming mhj. She may not be listed as the composer but you know she had to approve it.
It doesn't matter, the label is responsible for plagiarism. The CEO is an administrator, in fact, she is like the principal of a school. The label could retaliate against the musician if it could demonstrate that the management was totally unaware of the plagiarism, but on the contrary, the previous Ador staff has already said that MHJ had given precise indications to copy the music and concept of the Mexican Jeans, so I am pretty sure the same thing happened with Bubble Gum.
This is huge. Because if the Korean judges side with Ador. Shack Attack is an English band. They will refile in England. This isn't going away. Also, for the other songs that are suspect. Those bands won't bother the Korean court system. They'll just file in their home countries. Artists are extremely protective of their work. All of that is going to kick a ton of dirt on Korea. So it isn't just MN the issue it's that a whole genre and country could lose face. I wouldn't fire her. Then she would get to hide and whine. Poor me.... Nope, she can stand on a busy street corner with a sign. And apologize.
Considering how hard Korea is using Kpop to attract international attention, favor, and hopeful travel and buisness. It really should be known that if they allow these same musical groups to engage in plagiarism of other countries music, it makes them not only look bad. It makes them look extremely disrespeful to people in other countries ans those countries themselves. Korean cares a out it's world reputation. So they should care when people from another country or union as famous as the UK, files claims of plagiarism and being ripped off.
What are the mad bunnies going to do now? They backed the wrong girl saying HYBE needed to leave her alone because she was the one who made New Jeans not them. them. Well look what their queen did, she didn't take care of business and now New Jeans will suffer.
@@lindas5511 NJ supported her arrogantly and didn't care about how is to be badmouthed by one CEO while it benefited to NJ. Now we have reverse situation, NJ will be badmouthed for something girls themselves aren't responsible - they didn't write any of songs. NJ fidn't care for the fact that also Illit or Le Seraffim didn't write the songs or choreos. So let them suffer now, they are insensitive, greedy and spolied brats. I don't care about NJ, they are simmilar leech like MHJ. Next time they better learn how to be quiet and not to meddle in dispute between management of mother company and it's daughter, aka subsidiary.
i dont know how this will work in korea but in america it happens. marvin gaye's estate sued robin thicke for his song blurred lines sounding too similar to got to give it up and they won. he had to pay $5 million to gayes estate. it'll be interesting to see what happens
There is World Intellectual Property Organization and Komca (korea) which is for SK. mean the copyright infringement is the same. *Since 2007 Jasrac (japanese copyright) signed with Komca so there in no banning anymore.
People make a mistake because this not using a sample. This is using the totall basic music with different lyrics, multi samples. Normal you credit the owner of the sample. Hybe credit always, paid, has always done. Ador - not? The IP of this song has an owner, is not credit or used with their concensus. Read about Niles, Sting etc. artist used a riff, their riff etc. These artist has to pay for everytime that song went out. (They ask Ador first to shut down the song, if not they have more rights to sue). Her blatant response saying they have to prove, they actually already did. Korean or not they can not get around this. They can and will ask to pay per sales and play wherever or live. That is the damage pay. Only songs written or done befor 1927 are (copy) free. In other words If you sample an audio recording without the express permission of the owner, you are infringing the owner's copyright. This means when you sample music or rip audio from TV, film or social media and use them in your songs, if you haven't got permission from the rights holder, you are infringing their copyright.
Just pay for all your palgarized songs. I think there are 3 already. Who knows maybe their earlier songs might also be a palgarized songs. People are going to be digging,
@@kidslearning6659She did opened her own pandorabox and should take responsabilty for it. Sadly her accountability/responsability referes always its comical, its a joke.
Correct also you can't use an artist work to support your political campaign like or like Trump tried to do with Queen's song Brain May of Queen send Trump a Cease and Desist notice threatening to sue if he refused. My friend a painter did the same to one of our British Politicians who used her work on his political manifest online page. Cease and Desist went out also demanding a written apology on his official page and one in the newspapers, she gave him 7 days to comply failure to do as requested would result in suing him for damages. You can image how quickly he did as demanded as he knew he was in the wrong and the law was on my friends side.
Her career is already over anyway. She has neither the money nor, above all, the skills to start her own label, and only a madman would hire her. Personally I would be afraid to even work with her as her employee, she is a dangerous woman. Let's not forget that the same investors, that she had contacted to guzump Hybe, simply warned Hybe.
New Jeans and Min Hee-Jin's fans are one of the most cancerous toxic fandoms I've ever seen. I knew Min Hee-Jin was mental the moment I saw her press conference. I was never interested in New Jeans nor Hybe but her behavior and claims made me hate new jeans and root for hybe and their artists.
First and foremost, there was nothing ever creative and original about MHJ and her NJs kiddos, and finally the artists that they plagiarized is taking legal actions. Won't be surprised if 90s Mexican JEANS girl group will follow suit.
Update few hours ago from Shakatak To all our fans and friends in Korea thank you for all your comments about the usage of “Easier Said Than Done” in several recent songs Our publishing company Wise Music Group is on the case and has employed a musicologist to take this further We will keep you posted .
You're the hero for bringing this to Shakatak's attention. Also, what the latin group Jeans having their name and look copied by MHJ??? As a fellow commenter pointed out its the way that MHJ throws around the word plagiarism and accusses others. Crazy and hypocritical.
I have invested the last 30 min comparing the music and I am totally convinced Ador is going to pay for plagiarism and copyright infrigement ... That chorus is 100% besides what was mentioned: the tempo is a bit faster....
Creative genius she is NOT! She should have kept her mouth shut and not accuse other groups of plagiarism! Pot meet kettle! Now Karma’s coming for her and NewJeans!
I think MHJ thought this would blow over since the Mexican group didn't make complaints when the concept comparisons to them came to light. Since they didn't fight back she figured everyone would just let her do her thing unckecked. Besides that, she comes from SM who have a history of groups using other peoples published music so she's doing what she has watched over the past 20years or so
It's a lot harder to prove visual & design concepts being plagiarized I'm sure even MHJ knows that and why she likes to make a lot of noise about it knowing it literally wouldn't go anywhere just give other hybe labels grief and harass the other girls from those groups so the Mexcian group would have a much harder time proving it but when it comes to music there are copyright laws in place to protect musical artists. If they had copied the Mexican groups song they would've had more of a leg to stand on going after them legally.
I wonder if MHJ did it as part of her master plan to "destroy" Ador/Hybe so in the end she can buy Ador at a cheap price once all of what she had planned was completed? She already instigated the attacks on all the groups that HYBE/BIGHIT created which was part of her plan so maybe this is her next step? She also skipped out on The Grammy Museum. She seems to be doing everything to separate from HYBE. She's definitely nervous because the public is aware and her intense Joker smile is just a way to mask her explosive and vulgar thoughts.
Let's see Belift, Source now Shakatak? Let her deal with it alone. She created this mess, she should face it without HyBe backing her since she wanted out.
Well let's pray for this but I really don't want Anything to happen to HYBE LABELS because as always I'm beside HYBE I support HYBE until BTS stops supporting HYBE 💜
I haven't seen those comments defending MHJ and New jeans on last two videos? Does that mean MHJ didn't hire a troll factory in south korea called Maccoll consulting any more?
I think she might be running low on funds by now and people may not be willing to work with her after what the Judge said in his summing up comments. As he she did betray HYBE not ADORE
@@eileencritchley4630 That's possible, and I really hope so. I mean, before there were a lot of comments shading sean in both english and korean. Most common one was the one that accusing him being paid by hybe, but I haven't seen one yet.
Le Sserafim didn't get hate about their vocals on their Fearless & Antifragile era. It's just these last March & April. The hate was full force. Also, other Hybe artists were being attack as well that months. Bang pd hired detective & found out it was MHJ is the culprit & she has back up outside. That's y they took her laptop. Cause it's very suspicious why the hate train on hybe was full force that past months. Now, MHJ is getting her karma 1 by 1👏👏
The media tried to get her to talk about it when she was found guilty the second time. She said that this was all a circus and still said it wasn't true the she said I'm done talking about it and went to the car and left. A total of 5 minutes of her talking. She did say that HYBE copied her with BTS I can't remember the group name of the group she said BTS copied but, the video showed toddlers referring to her KPop groups age when BTS was becoming popular. .
Sure, Hybe owns 80% of Ador but NWJS albums were decided by Ador solely (aka MHJ). If Hybe can prove MHJ screwed up, and this cause a damage on Ador, can't this mean that Hybe can kick MHJ out from the company? I mean if it is proven that Ador choose the song directly without Hybe's awareness than, the burden is gonna be on Ador solely. Right?
Sampling is actually very much illegal. 😆 The only way it is legal is to negotiate a sample license from whoever owns the copyright for the sound recording itself and the composition, and it's obvious she did not do that. She's insistent that she be responsible for everything; use her in-house PDs and choreographers, hire everyone herself, have a hand in every little thing, so it's on her. She should know all of this, but I get the feeling more and more she's just playing and causing drama like it's high school. And making bank as she does. From what I understand, because Adore is part of the Hybe conglomerate, Hybe doesn't have to step in and take responsibility. MHJ is the one legally responsible for everything that happens with Adore and the people she employs. They could sue Hybe on the side, but it's been stated like 500 times already due to all the bs before this that she has full responsibility and control over Adore, but Hybe can step in. From what I've been told by my lawyer friend, is basically Hybe gave her a loan, and they own the lease, but she owns the business kind of situation. So you wouldn't sue the bank to go after the loan holder, which is how it was described to me. LOL Does that even make sense? 😅 And yes, I think it's karma!
It would bd cool to see what would happen if, at this point Hybe drops NJ & Ador like a hot rock. Drop their collabs and endorsements. Let them become an individual company without the $$ backing they’re getting from Hybe. Let’s see how MHJ handles them now.
I don’t think HYBE should be blamed for hiring kitty cat he hired her to preform a fair and honest job and she let him down. We can all see a person face ,but not their heart and mind until you get close.
@@joycegoins8221 There are many people who she fooled even in the industry thinking she was a genius art director for kpop groups because she had worked with some of the biggest names & most successful. They didn't have a clue it was a lot of smoke and mirrors on her part, I've known a lot of people that remind me of her in the business world where they are master manipulators & major b.s.-ers that are really good at sucking up and schmoozing people. They end up getting ahead easy and fast getting promotions or management type positions while their poor subordinates work twice as hard to just to keep the boat afloat or to fix all the mistakes their narcissist manager makes cuz they don't know how to actually do their job cuz they lied.
Karma hits hard 😂 I mean she tried to accused BTS of stealing her idea of music when they can't even defend themselves since they were serving. Her face in recent news 😂🍻🎉💜 KARMA!!! JUSTICE!!!
I was born in 1980.. my mom was listening and still do to a lot of euro sound when I ask her about Shakatak she was so excited to tell me about the group. I made her listening to NJ song and she was like ohhhh did they do a remix or something .. I was laughing my a** so much 😅😅
Newjeans are young, still minors in the group. They don't even take part in the production of the song. What should they pay?? It's more of a Ador/MHJ problem.
@@a.jackson6909So what their on Hee Jins side so it shouldn't matter they are performer's of the music so they are responsible for believing Ber word's
Good lord she thought it was really over! I don't know how on earth Min thought she was going to "borrow" sounds and songs from foreign artists without paying, or at least giving props to them and not expect the same foreigners to say anything! That's one of their superpowers! This is basically stealing and that's not a good face for S. Korea who has been known to "borrow" a lot of elements from foreign influences without giving the originators their props. If even your people can tell a song sounds too similar to a foreign artist they know and like, what made Min think no one was going to catch on? Poor NJs...they do make great vibes, but now I can't help but wonder just how many sounds and elements they've taken without either asking permission, or giving the originators their flowers so to speak. Trust me Min, you DO NOT want to get lawyers involved when it comes to the music scene. Them sharks are cutthroat and will not care if you show up to court looking like you're poor and crying about how the people are against you.
When Sean first reported on this back in May(?), the name Shakatak sounded familiar. Then it clicked. I knew their song Down on the Street. Go get her, Shakatak!
I really enjoy your posts, especially about this topic. You cut through all the dross and floss surrounding the topic and with your fluent Korean can be incisive in your analysis
They've sent a Cease and Desist notification and are now suing on top. Some time's we Brit's will be happy just with sending a 'Cease and Desist' and demand a public or write apology, if we get that we might not sue. I've done it a few time's but I've also sued when the other person has refused to comply. We are reasonable most of the time but we will not be walked over when it come's to IP rights.
So in the end, Oldjeans has 0 originality of their own. The audacity to scream at ILLIT for over 2 months for simply being 5 teenage girls, singing softly, wearing traditional Korean clothing with a blue sky behind them.... attending fashion events, like literally every other K-pop group.... Oh, Oldjeans is so over.
I understand that ur mad with mhj which is fair. She is very problematic but why are you insulting the group and calling them "oldjeans"? They are still very successful this scandal did not impact them they are still going viral and getting brand deals
@@lumii903in Korea and maybe Japan. But outside of that, this whole thing made a massive impact. And the comments I have seen on Korean articles are slowly changing from supporting her, to calling her out. Public opinion and reputation is fickle. If anymore starts coming out that's she really has been copying and ripping others off of their ideas, then even their Korean reputation can fall as well. She in on the edge right now and one more screw up that becomes exposed about her and straight up end her whole career. She is trending on dangerous grounds.
@@GrumpyKay Her career is already over anyway. She has neither the money nor, above all, the skills to start her own label, and only a madman would hire her. Personally I would be afraid to even work with her as her employee, she is a dangerous woman. Let's not forget that the same investors, that she had contacted to guzump Hybe, simply warned Hybe.
I read this quote many years ago, and it impressed me very much: Be aware of the bad, that you are doing today, cos tomorrow, it will brake your legs. From what I understood from a friend, who is making music, when you want to sample, you have to ask the permission, and then you can use the sample. If I understood correct, practically you are announcing the author that you are using the sample and you have to credit him for that part of your song, and pay royalties. Many song writers and producers are doing that as a normal thing to do, because they will honour and respect the song and author that inspired them. Also the letters between the parties, it seems that it is the usual way, because going to court will imply a lot of money and time to lose. And, yes, they have to provide audio and technical proves and if the conclusion it is plagiarism, they will settle down and pay the credits and compensations. Something like that, and even it isn't so accurate what I understood, it may not be a trial, to know where to file the suit. Anyway MHJ as a full CEO that she was, approved and made herself the producer of NJ, even if she isn't the musical producer, someone should have been very fond of Easier Said Than Done, because they thought that it will be also, easily to do. But they didn't do it right. Instead they MHJ and musical producer damaged ADORE.
the Producer of the track called 250 is the one responsible for the production. This person needs to testify if Ador did the due diligence and checked with the music library worldwide any similarities. I work in media, and we always hire assistants to check this before the go ahead, and pay for any sampling, or get clearance for copyrights. MHJ is not mentioned as Producer, but she is responsible for Ador overall production output, so we will have to see if Hybe will put this on her, bc it was under her management & hopefully a good excuse to fire her mwahaha I've witnessed in realtime your msg to Shakatak on twt (clap clap clap) . Thank you for the update on the case. Shame this is an Ador case, bc I would be so happy to see another case MHJ would have to pay the lawyers from her own pocket. Since Attention, there was a lot of similarities with older songs. MHJ even copied Virg*n Su*cides scene by scene.. Sofia Coppola should sue MHJ as well. she is no genius😆😆
I just listened to both songs. Bubble Gum's chorus is the same melody as Shakatak's song; the only difference, like you mentioned, is the key. It is clearly plagiarism. Keep in mind the Blurred Lines lawsuit a few years ago. In that case the songs in dispute share the same beats but the melodies are not that similar, yet the Blurred Lines writers lost the case and were held liable for damages. Shakatak has a much more substantial case against Ador this time. However, I don't think MHJ will be held liable for this since she's not the writer but I am so hoping that this time, the courts can let Hybe kick her out of Ador.
She is the producer and also the CEO who picks the songs used. She has liability here. Especially since she's trying to use the song for marketing to brands who want to use it.
😅karma is a bitch...so the moral of the story ,dont try to bite the hands that feeds you...plagiarism was the culprit that almost destroyed the 7 kings..theyve weathered so many acusation to destroy them but bangtans are resilient and tough,thats why mhj is trying her damnest to destroy them but you cant destroy something who has to face so much hardship...i hope mhj wake up from her fantasy of being original😁😁😁😁✌✌✌
It’s so brazen of her to raise plagiarism issues with Hybe knowing full well how much she plagiarized herself. Didn’t it occur to her that the issue of plagiarism would be brought up everywhere? You don’t draw attention in others to what you’re as well guilty of.
@@ystrw Yes. The projection is so prevalent in nearly everything she says. Cheaters often accuse the innocent of cheating without any evidence. If you pay attention, it gives you an immediate place to start with your own investigations. Karma.
What's extremely malicious and treacherous is the timing of the fake plagiarism accusations against New Jeans which coincide perfectly with Hybe's removal of articles addressing far more credible plagiarism accusations for txt's Double Take based on Gd&Top's Knock Out with comments infesting txt's youtube comments at this moment, which happened just a couple of day ago. Hybe prefers to pay for dirty lawyers and antiquated groups to slander its best selling women's group New Jeans than to pay for vocal coaches to improve Bang focused groups after their vocals have been harshly criticized. Hybe also wants to fabricate a fake reason to get rid of Min Hee Jin before November because they are greedy and they don't want to pay for the stock options they promised in their contract even though New Jeans is the best selling women't artist under Hybe that has earned the company tens of millions of dollars even as jealousy obsessed Bang constantly tries to undermine New Jeans by restricting youtube views, trying to steal brand endorsements, refusing to even acknowledge the members' existence and paying for slander and malicious play like this Hybe part timer Soulless while encouraging the slander by bullying Army. Hybe's treacherous play paints New Jeans as the scapegoats for problems Hybe and Bang have caused.
Next is their song "How Sweet" that sampled Lisette Melendez 90s song "Together Forever " and oh, the sampling of "Power Puff Girls" beat for their Super Shy song.
@a.jackson6909 Yes of course, and Seoulite TV has already mentioned it b4 and others too. But since it's today's topic, you can find so many articles on RUclips about NJs plagiarism from various artists.
It's not sampling, that's where you use a recorded audio clip from a copyrighted recording. This is copyright infringement (alleged) of a composition. It can be a high bar (Spirit v. Led Zeppelin), but either way it's gonna cost Ador a lot of legal fees, thus lowering profit and MHJ's potential stock profit. Listening to the songs myself, it sounds the same in terms of melody, harmony and rhythm. Hybe will fight the good fight, but find the silver lining if they lose.
If Hybe were smart, they'd leave it to Ador people to handle!!!! Why contribute to Hybe paying any of Ador's attorneys fees!!!!! Really, let MHJ profit take a big hit and "makes financial damage to Ador" a reason to fire her!
Sean, it's good to see your continuing informative and insightful reports on what's happening at HYBE with MHJ. I think you're right that HYBE may be adding this situation as an additional item to MHJ''s long list of offenses against her parent company. My thoughts are that this case will be settled between Ador and Shakatak without going to court which you mentioned in your report. Ador is now led by four executives (I.e., MHJ + 3 HYBE execs). The 3 execs have probably taken a look at this and agreed with Shakatak that plagiarism took place. But as with all things involving MHJ, there needs to be solid evidence or else MHJ slithers away unscathed. The 3 execs needed Shakatak to formally give them the complete list of New Jeans plagiarism offenses so that MHJ can be dealt with effectively. The exclusive news report confirms that the official notice happened. I doubt that HYBE, Ador, and Shakatak's legal counsel haven't already reached an "agreement" on the outcome of this unsavory situation. But HYBE is once again going through the meticulous steps of documentation as they work methodically through this latest MHJ problem. Shakatak is probably only interested in compensation and making sure it doesn't happen ever again. The people who may really have to worry are Sony Music and the Korean/Hong Kong Music Association. This is a precedent -setting case. South Korea was already discussing an Asian Grammy startup. The Grammys may be watching this case to determine if there is a systemic problem ahead with Kpop "sampling" music from other countries. The Shakatak case could determine what happens next with the Grammys which now impacts the music industry's financial streams between continents. I'm not a music industry expert, but I agree with you. This case could open a can of worms beyond HYBE and Ador. Keep up the good work, Sean! 👍
She thinking bcuz the band is from to Britian she could get away with stealing from others, bcuz she has stolen and is still trying to steal from others, while blaming others for her faults...its good that Hybe has control of ador, but she needs to pay for the damages bcuz she had full control before Hybe retook control...her me mentality & self victimizing is finally catching up with her...
It's all catching up to her and her patsy. This is only the beginning. HYBE will continue to be professional, methodical and strategic. The media and public don't buy what she is selling.
Sean, I’m sure Shakatak wants more than a compensation .. ador offering a payment is not enough. I’m sure they want their names on the track as producers and composers, therefore, getting a *HUGE* cut from the song and album revenue. Because from the evidence you presented on that letter, …. it’s *A LOT* more than _just a simple sample_ 🥺👉🏼👈🏼 *basically they are saying WE OWN THE SONG* The way POETIC JUSTICE just poetic justiced like no other poetic justice ever poetic justiced before in poetic justice town *_OOOOFFF_* 😂😂😂😂
Yeah it usually like that people settle, the guy from ice ice said she used one note different do it isn't sample anymore but curt said different do he had to pay and credit. It is usually like that....
I am a OG BTS OG fsn and I so want to support NJ, i brought their first two albums, but MHJ really left a bad taste in my mouth. So, i am stepping back until she is gone from NJs life!!😢
Hey, as another fellow Army, you should know the majority of us (Armys) blocked Newjeans on Spotify (that's why their numbers are so bad compared to before) and we also stopped supporting them the moment their "mother" brought up BTS name and caused them to get dragged in this mess. And we won't support them ever again because the girls supported their "mother" (MHJ). Newjeans is over for Armys, if you want to listen to girlgroup music you can listen to Illit and Le Sserafim, they need the support after also being victims of that crazy lady.
i saw this on reddit so take it with a grain of salt but apparently its been a long time theory in the fandom that gigi is actually min heejin. since gigi has not written for anyone else but nj. and it seems to be a pen name more than anything, and no one really knows anything else about them. it would make sense that she doesn't really know how to write but she can rearrange certain aspects of the lyrics and change a few words or change the structure of a sentence. so she would automatically be put as a lyricist. idk, kind of interesting to think about because this was a theory since last year. and if true, that would mean mhj has another problem to think about since she is in the credits.
Gigi or Gigi (KOR) is a korean lyricist team consisting of Hyunji Kim and Daehwan Seok. So no, mhj is not gigi. I did a quick google search on this when i saw the rabbits a few months back claiming mhj is responsible for Tae’s songs in Layover.
Just want to see if the members of NJ are going to thank min heejin when they will perform under hybe with min heejin being proved wrong and taken action against as she tried to betray hybe and was using the mask of plagiarism when the main issue is about betrayal
Artist do this all the time. They choose to risk having to share royalties over paying them up front Olivia Rodrigo was having to pay left and right on her first album and look at Ariana with 7 Rings - super popular song and she ended up making $0 on ot
oh I didn't know any of that as I don't listen to either of their music heard a bit and it just wasn't to my tastes so never looked into them as artists.
It’s really hard for me to listen to their music or even watch their MVs because of the wholesale copying of “concepts” and musical influences straight out of the late 80s and 90s. I don’t know if the girls don’t know any better. I really drew the line with NJ after the Lisa Lopes car accident reenactment in their “How Sweet” MV, not to mention all the other dangerous things they did in that music video. I’ve had enough. Those girls need to be responsible for their own careers, as individuals and as a group. They can’t allow this MHJ to destroy them like this.
Those girls support their "mother" and think exactly the same as her. Recently in a kpop concert they even ignored Illit. Stop thinking they are victims when they are just as bad as her for watching how their "mother" almost ruined the career of other groups and not doing anything to stop it. We should all stop supporting all these ugly people and start supporting the groups that are the real victims here: Illit, Le Sserafim and BTS in a way.
I think HYBE should always monitor every song that NJ ADOR releases because whatever they do is the result of plagiarism if they don't want to always spend money on plagiarism that ADOR does, and MHJ is so clever in pointing out the problem when JIMIN's album is published
After this situation if I were Hybe I would be doing my own separate checks from now on thoroughly on each labels music from now on. It's sad that others will have to suffer being under such a rigorous checking process to protect the parent company because one awful person that oversaw one of the labels.
One day New Jeans fans will need to accept the reality that Min Hee Jin is the one sabotaging New Jeans.
Yess
Truer words have never been spoken.
I don't understand how their fanbase got so toxic so fast...they even hate on BTS....who basically made NJs possible....and gave them a successful global debut.
@@kanohane my opinion is their Westernized nostalgic feel appealed to a bunch of people who are brand new to kpop. Fans new to kpop tend to be toxic.
@@nancyreyes1578I feel some misunderstood not alway's toxic, many don't know these thing's
People in glass houses shdn't throw stones!
Facts!
Exactly!
Truth!
Right!!!! I think people who leave there don't know how Fragile the roof over their head is until it starts raining 😂😂😂😂 I'm here for the ride.
Yayyyyy someone else said it 👏 🙌 🤣
MHJ and NJ didn't want Hybes involvement in Ador I think they should deal with this on their own. So they can see what happens when no one has their back
It was HYBE who created ADOR not the other way around
@@user-ke3ur5ej8tyeah but after they were created they got the hybe because they were in hybe labels, after they got the hype, they didnt want any involvement with hybe
@@user-ke3ur5ej8t she is the one that want to create ADOR under hybe, she could be an independent company but choose to be under hybe.
@@SwastikaRai-tr9zp HYBE invested 100% and when NJ have success gave percentage of the share to MHJ. MHJ tried to bite the hands that feed her or helped her already ruined jobs from SM. She sold info of SM artists to reporters and paparazzi
MHJ invited this scrutiny by accusing everyone and their mothers of copying her 💀 the hypocrisy is blatant!! I definitely hear the similarities with Shakatak despite how many times bunnies will tell you “they don’t even sound similar” but New Jeans don’t deserve to make not money from it, I hope Ador can settle a deal where they pay for the sample and still get to perform it! But this will be a lesson, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones 🫢
She took the whole song. Not a smaple. They are sueing her
Mislim, da je sedaj to prepozno. Min Heejin izgublja na vseh področjih. Zdaj je bolj pikantna novica, da so aretirali CEO direktorja KAKAO. Min Heejin pa tesno sodeluje z njim. Kdor visoko leti, nizko pade in to zelo hitro.
You CANNOT backtrack and add sampling to a song!!!! The sampling rights MUST be addressed BEFORE the release of any and all songs!!!! MHJ is in deep 💩 of her own making!!!!
They can do money from this but they have to paid the rights for using the original song so the original composers keeps the benefits of their creation.
It's funny how Bunnies were saying this was a sample in the beginning. Now "they don't sound similar, and we found another song with the same chord progression, so actually Shakatak is the real plagiarist!" LOL 😂
What poetic justice this is. To be fair, MHJ didn't write that song. But this is just perfect because of how thoughtlessly she threw around plagiarism accusations against illit, using content made by spectators and consumers as her "evidence" instead of actually having all the data analysed by professionals with real knowledge. People like to cry plagiarism without knowing the meaning or the legal parameters behind it, and MHJ is certainly one of them. Honestly, how is someone so ignorant and careless the CEO of a company? And people are calling her a hero?? Maybe through this lawsuit, she'll finally learn what it actually means to plagiarise.
너무 속시원한 댓글입니다!!!! 제발 대가를 치르기를....
@@Genic2000 Thanks very much!
@@VerucaS9lt as producer she is responsible and accountable for this. Not Hybe. She should not publish this, now it is up to Wipo.
@@VerucaS9lt Plagiarism is the act of taking someone else's written work and presenting it as your own. This is a clear example of copyright infringement. This may involve replicating a melody, lyrics, or entire compositions. So this is plagiarisme. Difference 1BPM
MHJ did not write any songs, she is not a musician. She began her career as a graphic designer and then became a creative director. I don't know what spell she cast against BSH, to get appointed CEO without any economic-financial expertise.
They would have been left alone but she decided to go and accuse others and got karma instead
It's strange, if you want a song, pay it. What's difficult? All because she no longer wanted to care about work, she wanted to damage HYBE.
She might be SM's spy.
@@HannieRiefor real I was thinking the same thing
@@WanglembaElangbam-xj7yl She didn't give the laptop did she? I think, that the answer is right there.
This is damaging Hybe, (who does everything how it should be ) and Ador together. She made a farce majeur with this ( actually the 2nd after copying Jeans and their layout)
because Min Hee Jin claimed on her press conference that EVERYTHING ABOUT NEW JEANS WAS HER ORIGINAL IDEAS / CONCEPTS .. so ....
Can you sue someone in another country for copyright infringement?
Quora: Yes. This is essentially the basis of the Berne Convention which was created in 1986 and today has 176 signatory countries. In fact, you must use the provisions that the foreign country offers its local to enforce your copyrights....
She who shall not be named ...... has another lawsuit to fight. Getting quite a list there....lol
Yes we artist's can I've done it a few time's myself.
Of course, it’s copy righted
Just ask Lee Sangmin
She who infringed copy right is Ms Min.😅
Did MHJ's shaman warn her about this? 😂
Maybe not anymore
her sister left the chat and from the shaman's body after this lol 😂😂
@@Usery5439 The mental image of the sister's ghost metaphorically AND literally logging out is killing me
@@raccoonchild I think I just heard the Windows shutdown noise when I read that.
🤣
The thing is that this is not how BSH or BigHit does business. They credit original artists. They ask and pay for permission. Examples include "Born SInger," "Am I Wrong," and "Chicken Noodle Soup."
This is why MHJ during the first press conference said "doesn't he know how to do business?", with the audacity of an employee towards the founder of Bighit, Hybe and Ador.
its funny because bighit has paid original artists so j-hope could remake chicken noodle soup and sample shimmy shimmy ya for what if. j-hope even credited the artists. its upto the people involved to get their labels to pay original artists. im sure heejin was informed but she didnt do anything about it. heejin and her brats are so entitled!!
i hope this goes to court.
And when you think how long Agust D song was outside streaming platforms bc of sample, that they only go clear go in 2022. That is also why RM first mixtape is only on soundcloud, bc all song have samples, and it is in fair use if it is for free and not performed, etc.
@@magdalenagabrowska8169that makes sense
@@magdalenagabrowska8169 Yup that James Brown on Agust D part.. that's why it's only released after how many years on streaming platforms...
Maybe she thought its an old old song in the 80's people will not recognized.😅
I said from the very beginning MJ stole Easier Said Than Done!
Yes and being a fan of Shakatak I also said the same thing, I was furious. I knew Kpop companies in the past have done this many time's before but because they are such a nice market they got away with it. That's why when I found out about BTS I was so happy that when they sample they pay for those samples and pay homage to their influences. Somehow that didn't rub off on Ms Min & NJ but then Ms Min came from SM who have very often sampled and out right copied Western Artist work without permission and/or paying for it.
NJ not MJ
@@RekhaSharma-hh1svno it is mj (as in min hee jin)
@@anyameowie oh
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv ....or MHJ??? 😅😅😂😂
MHJ: "I'm the queen of the devious bitches." 👑
Karma: "Hold my beer." 🍺
Have you notice that NJ's views are not much like before?
MHJ should answer to this "ALONE" since she wanted to separate from HYBE.
Source Music has file a lawsuit against Ador and now this one.
A lot of their casual listeners were ARMY, who was supporting the "little sisters" of BTS.
Thats because several of their casual listener and supporters were from Armies. So now armies stopped being their supporter and casual listener...so well!
Yeah their newest one only 5 million😅
@@zv8365 But some of the ARMY'S were no longer interested in listening to them after MHJ dragged the name of BTS and other HYBE kpop groups.
I feel bad for the girls getting stuck in the middle of this. Even some of our Boys have mentioned enjoying their songs. She really didn't think that through before trying to drag BTS into her drama, and talk $#!+. Her shaman was shortsighted also. Shoulda told her it wasn't enough to send Bangtan away to the military. Don't mess with ARMY.
I'm glad that MHJ is getting called on her so-called "creativity", which is actually just copy-cat nonsense. But, I'm sad that it's Hybe that is having to clean up her mess, and the money to pay the potential damages will come from Hybe. This woman has done nothing but cost Hybe money!
I think ador will pay from their label money and earnings which will put the label on red .. and if they need to pay more than what they have hybe probably will bail them out but that will put them in debt owing hybe money .. as bad as that sound ‘hybe losing money’ it’s actually good for hybe cuz if the damages are around a million then they can fire her cuz she caused damage to the label
Wow... she realy is from SM
As expected👏👏👏
She is accusing ILLIT copying NJ without proper evidence and made many kpop fans especially NJ stans hate ILLIT but now she's the one is accused of plagiarizing by international artist themselves that's what i called "karma".
Glad Shakatak has filed suit! Paying homage to a group is one thing, ripping them off is completely different!
Hold MHJ and those girls accountable! Yes, Hybe owns Adore but hopefully all will see this is all on that smiling guilty woman! She needs to be fired NOW, without Hybe having to pay her a dime!
Shakatak has been around a long time, that's not achieved by being a push-over!
This unhinged woman has ruined her own career!
Sean, thank you for this juicy update!
Hybe could actually tell them they're so ashamed by Mhj, NJ and adors actions. They had no idea they were doing this pull the money from adors funds to pay them while publicly shaming mhj. She may not be listed as the composer but you know she had to approve it.
Yes
yes the 'buck stops with her as the CEO of ADORE' something she clearly didn't understand.
It doesn't matter, the label is responsible for plagiarism. The CEO is an administrator, in fact, she is like the principal of a school. The label could retaliate against the musician if it could demonstrate that the management was totally unaware of the plagiarism, but on the contrary, the previous Ador staff has already said that MHJ had given precise indications to copy the music and concept of the Mexican Jeans, so I am pretty sure the same thing happened with Bubble Gum.
Now, you are accusing other group of plagiarism, now its come back to you . Hahaha...YOU REAP WHAT YOU SAW...
This is huge. Because if the Korean judges side with Ador. Shack Attack is an English band. They will refile in England. This isn't going away. Also, for the other songs that are suspect. Those bands won't bother the Korean court system. They'll just file in their home countries. Artists are extremely protective of their work.
All of that is going to kick a ton of dirt on Korea. So it isn't just MN the issue it's that a whole genre and country could lose face.
I wouldn't fire her. Then she would get to hide and whine. Poor me....
Nope, she can stand on a busy street corner with a sign. And apologize.
Considering how hard Korea is using Kpop to attract international attention, favor, and hopeful travel and buisness. It really should be known that if they allow these same musical groups to engage in plagiarism of other countries music, it makes them not only look bad. It makes them look extremely disrespeful to people in other countries ans those countries themselves.
Korean cares a out it's world reputation. So they should care when people from another country or union as famous as the UK, files claims of plagiarism and being ripped off.
What are the mad bunnies going to do now? They backed the wrong girl saying HYBE needed to leave her alone because she was the one who made New Jeans not them. them. Well look what their queen did, she didn't take care of business and now New Jeans will suffer.
They're all part of the MHJ cult they won't care it will somehow be a witch hunt. Fake news lol😂.
@@lindas5511 hopping around
Naj trpijo kot so trpele druge skupine zaradi njih in "mame".
NJ backed her too. I think it’s over for MHJ and NJ and Rabid Rabbits. IMO
@@lindas5511 NJ supported her arrogantly and didn't care about how is to be badmouthed by one CEO while it benefited to NJ. Now we have reverse situation, NJ will be badmouthed for something girls themselves aren't responsible - they didn't write any of songs. NJ fidn't care for the fact that also Illit or Le Seraffim didn't write the songs or choreos. So let them suffer now, they are insensitive, greedy and spolied brats. I don't care about NJ, they are simmilar leech like MHJ. Next time they better learn how to be quiet and not to meddle in dispute between management of mother company and it's daughter, aka subsidiary.
i dont know how this will work in korea but in america it happens. marvin gaye's estate sued robin thicke for his song blurred lines sounding too similar to got to give it up and they won. he had to pay $5 million to gayes estate. it'll be interesting to see what happens
There is World Intellectual Property Organization and Komca (korea) which is for SK. mean the copyright infringement is the same. *Since 2007 Jasrac (japanese copyright) signed with Komca so there in no banning anymore.
People make a mistake because this not using a sample. This is using the totall basic music with different lyrics, multi samples. Normal you credit the owner of the sample. Hybe credit always, paid, has always done. Ador - not? The IP of this song has an owner, is not credit or used with their concensus. Read about Niles, Sting etc. artist used a riff, their riff etc. These artist has to pay for everytime that song went out. (They ask Ador first to shut down the song, if not they have more rights to sue). Her blatant response saying they have to prove, they actually already did. Korean or not they can not get around this. They can and will ask to pay per sales and play wherever or live. That is the damage pay. Only songs written or done befor 1927 are (copy) free. In other words If you sample an audio recording without the express permission of the owner, you are infringing the owner's copyright. This means when you sample music or rip audio from TV, film or social media and use them in your songs, if you haven't got permission from the rights holder, you are infringing their copyright.
Just pay for all your palgarized songs. I think there are 3 already. Who knows maybe their earlier songs might also be a palgarized songs. People are going to be digging,
@@kidslearning6659She did opened her own pandorabox and should take responsabilty for it. Sadly her accountability/responsability referes always its comical, its a joke.
Correct also you can't use an artist work to support your political campaign like or like Trump tried to do with Queen's song Brain May of Queen send Trump a Cease and Desist notice threatening to sue if he refused. My friend a painter did the same to one of our British Politicians who used her work on his political manifest online page. Cease and Desist went out also demanding a written apology on his official page and one in the newspapers, she gave him 7 days to comply failure to do as requested would result in suing him for damages. You can image how quickly he did as demanded as he knew he was in the wrong and the law was on my friends side.
@@kidslearning6659 Ali bo imela toliko denarja, da vse to plača?
Exacly itbwas so simple - credit sample and there wouldn't be a case. But I really think she felt like invicible or somthing...
Her career is already over anyway. She has neither the money nor, above all, the skills to start her own label, and only a madman would hire her. Personally I would be afraid to even work with her as her employee, she is a dangerous woman. Let's not forget that the same investors, that she had contacted to guzump Hybe, simply warned Hybe.
Karma is a bitch.
Karma is an ARMY
Jojo siwa was right all this time 💀😂😂
I was thinking the same thing 😂
New Jeans and Min Hee-Jin's fans are one of the most cancerous toxic fandoms I've ever seen. I knew Min Hee-Jin was mental the moment I saw her press conference. I was never interested in New Jeans nor Hybe but her behavior and claims made me hate new jeans and root for hybe and their artists.
Let's support Illit and Le Sserafim comebacks! As an Army I am wired to support the groups that are hated the most!
You sir are wonderful. Thank you for sharing this 💜
She could have pay for the copyrights but they didnt choose to and proceed to damage hybe
First and foremost, there was nothing ever creative and original about MHJ and her NJs kiddos, and finally the artists that they plagiarized is taking legal actions. Won't be surprised if 90s Mexican JEANS girl group will follow suit.
Maybe the compensations should be paid from Mnj salary.
Absolutno. Tukaj HYB nima nič. Za vse je odgovorna Min Heejin, ki je izvršna direktorica ADORJA in najbolje plačana od vseh direktorev HYB.
Update few hours ago from Shakatak To all our fans and friends in Korea thank you for all your comments about the usage of “Easier Said Than Done” in several recent songs Our publishing company Wise Music Group is on the case and has employed a musicologist to take this further We will keep you posted .
You're the hero for bringing this to Shakatak's attention. Also, what the latin group Jeans having their name and look copied by MHJ??? As a fellow commenter pointed out its the way that MHJ throws around the word plagiarism and accusses others. Crazy and hypocritical.
I have invested the last 30 min comparing the music and I am totally convinced Ador is going to pay for plagiarism and copyright infrigement ... That chorus is 100% besides what was mentioned: the tempo is a bit faster....
Creative genius she is NOT! She should have kept her mouth shut and not accuse other groups of plagiarism! Pot meet kettle! Now Karma’s coming for her and NewJeans!
I think MHJ thought this would blow over since the Mexican group didn't make complaints when the concept comparisons to them came to light. Since they didn't fight back she figured everyone would just let her do her thing unckecked. Besides that, she comes from SM who have a history of groups using other peoples published music so she's doing what she has watched over the past 20years or so
It's a lot harder to prove visual & design concepts being plagiarized I'm sure even MHJ knows that and why she likes to make a lot of noise about it knowing it literally wouldn't go anywhere just give other hybe labels grief and harass the other girls from those groups so the Mexcian group would have a much harder time proving it but when it comes to music there are copyright laws in place to protect musical artists. If they had copied the Mexican groups song they would've had more of a leg to stand on going after them legally.
I wonder if MHJ did it as part of her master plan to "destroy" Ador/Hybe so in the end she can buy Ador at a cheap price once all of what she had planned was completed? She already instigated the attacks on all the groups that HYBE/BIGHIT created which was part of her plan so maybe this is her next step? She also skipped out on The Grammy Museum. She seems to be doing everything to separate from HYBE. She's definitely nervous because the public is aware and her intense Joker smile is just a way to mask her explosive and vulgar thoughts.
Min Pinocchio will realise that when you deal with spirits you are bound to get your ass kicked
Lol what... 😭
That witch didn’t create anything! She was just copying & repackaged knockoffs!
Let's see Belift, Source now Shakatak? Let her deal with it alone. She created this mess, she should face it without HyBe backing her since she wanted out.
Well let's pray for this but I really don't want Anything to happen to HYBE LABELS because as always I'm beside HYBE I support HYBE until BTS stops supporting HYBE 💜
I haven't seen those comments defending MHJ and New jeans on last two videos? Does that mean MHJ didn't hire a troll factory in south korea called Maccoll consulting any more?
I think she might be running low on funds by now and people may not be willing to work with her after what the Judge said in his summing up comments. As he she did betray HYBE not ADORE
@@eileencritchley4630 That's possible, and I really hope so. I mean, before there were a lot of comments shading sean in both english and korean. Most common one was the one that accusing him being paid by hybe, but I haven't seen one yet.
Le Sserafim didn't get hate about their vocals on their Fearless & Antifragile era. It's just these last March & April. The hate was full force. Also, other Hybe artists were being attack as well that months. Bang pd hired detective & found out it was MHJ is the culprit & she has back up outside. That's y they took her laptop. Cause it's very suspicious why the hate train on hybe was full force that past months. Now, MHJ is getting her karma 1 by 1👏👏
Ouch! I bet she won’t do a press conference about that…
nope because its a foreign artist not korean and she cant manipulate int fans
The media tried to get her to talk about it when she was found guilty the second time. She said that this was all a circus and still said it wasn't true the she said I'm done talking about it and went to the car and left. A total of 5 minutes of her talking. She did say that HYBE copied her with BTS I can't remember the group name of the group she said BTS copied but, the video showed toddlers referring to her KPop groups age when BTS was becoming popular. .
Sure, Hybe owns 80% of Ador but NWJS albums were decided by Ador solely (aka MHJ). If Hybe can prove MHJ screwed up, and this cause a damage on Ador, can't this mean that Hybe can kick MHJ out from the company? I mean if it is proven that Ador choose the song directly without Hybe's awareness than, the burden is gonna be on Ador solely. Right?
Yes on her as producer, because everything was original from her
Sampling is actually very much illegal. 😆 The only way it is legal is to negotiate a sample license from whoever owns the copyright for the sound recording itself and the composition, and it's obvious she did not do that. She's insistent that she be responsible for everything; use her in-house PDs and choreographers, hire everyone herself, have a hand in every little thing, so it's on her. She should know all of this, but I get the feeling more and more she's just playing and causing drama like it's high school. And making bank as she does.
From what I understand, because Adore is part of the Hybe conglomerate, Hybe doesn't have to step in and take responsibility. MHJ is the one legally responsible for everything that happens with Adore and the people she employs. They could sue Hybe on the side, but it's been stated like 500 times already due to all the bs before this that she has full responsibility and control over Adore, but Hybe can step in.
From what I've been told by my lawyer friend, is basically Hybe gave her a loan, and they own the lease, but she owns the business kind of situation. So you wouldn't sue the bank to go after the loan holder, which is how it was described to me. LOL Does that even make sense? 😅
And yes, I think it's karma!
I think if enough people sue MHJ and Ador for lots of money combined, HYBE will be able to terminate her contract with Ador and NJ to fire MHJ! 🤔🤨🙄🤑🥴
I do not think they allow the girls leave now, if all that fall they will be transformed in formal models.
New jeans are performing at half time for the spurs vs bayern Munich game in Korea - I was like 🤮
Just disband New Jeans or move them to new management. That group is cursed and has been nothing but trouble for the company.
They have copied it directly, if ador slides away with this mess its rigged
It would bd cool to see what would happen if, at this point Hybe drops NJ & Ador like a hot rock. Drop their collabs and endorsements. Let them become an individual company without the $$ backing they’re getting from Hybe. Let’s see how MHJ handles them now.
I am telling you it's hybe biggest fault to hire this aajuma
I don’t think HYBE should be blamed for hiring kitty cat he hired her to preform a fair and honest job and she let him down. We can all see a person face ,but not their heart and mind until you get close.
@@joycegoins8221 There are many people who she fooled even in the industry thinking she was a genius art director for kpop groups because she had worked with some of the biggest names & most successful. They didn't have a clue it was a lot of smoke and mirrors on her part, I've known a lot of people that remind me of her in the business world where they are master manipulators & major b.s.-ers that are really good at sucking up and schmoozing people. They end up getting ahead easy and fast getting promotions or management type positions while their poor subordinates work twice as hard to just to keep the boat afloat or to fix all the mistakes their narcissist manager makes cuz they don't know how to actually do their job cuz they lied.
Karma hits hard 😂 I mean she tried to accused BTS of stealing her idea of music when they can't even defend themselves since they were serving.
Her face in recent news 😂🍻🎉💜 KARMA!!! JUSTICE!!!
Maybe the spirits are protecting BTS until they can all come together and push these trolls back.
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
I was born in 1980.. my mom was listening and still do to a lot of euro sound when I ask her about Shakatak she was so excited to tell me about the group. I made her listening to NJ song and she was like ohhhh did they do a remix or something .. I was laughing my a** so much 😅😅
Do a separate law suit for Min. To Ador. To New Jeans. Hybe is paying Ador…they didn’t do it. Let Ador, Min, and New Jeans pay up.
Newjeans are young, still minors in the group. They don't even take part in the production of the song. What should they pay?? It's more of a Ador/MHJ problem.
@@a.jackson6909So what their on Hee Jins side so it shouldn't matter they are performer's of the music so they are responsible for believing Ber word's
Good lord she thought it was really over! I don't know how on earth Min thought she was going to "borrow" sounds and songs from foreign artists without paying, or at least giving props to them and not expect the same foreigners to say anything! That's one of their superpowers! This is basically stealing and that's not a good face for S. Korea who has been known to "borrow" a lot of elements from foreign influences without giving the originators their props. If even your people can tell a song sounds too similar to a foreign artist they know and like, what made Min think no one was going to catch on? Poor NJs...they do make great vibes, but now I can't help but wonder just how many sounds and elements they've taken without either asking permission, or giving the originators their flowers so to speak. Trust me Min, you DO NOT want to get lawyers involved when it comes to the music scene. Them sharks are cutthroat and will not care if you show up to court looking like you're poor and crying about how the people are against you.
When Sean first reported on this back in May(?), the name Shakatak sounded familiar. Then it clicked. I knew their song Down on the Street. Go get her, Shakatak!
Some people are so focused on bringing others down that they fail realise it's that mentality that keeps them at the bottom .
I really enjoy your posts, especially about this topic. You cut through all the dross and floss surrounding the topic and with your fluent Korean can be incisive in your analysis
They've sent a Cease and Desist notification and are now suing on top. Some time's we Brit's will be happy just with sending a 'Cease and Desist' and demand a public or write apology, if we get that we might not sue. I've done it a few time's but I've also sued when the other person has refused to comply. We are reasonable most of the time but we will not be walked over when it come's to IP rights.
So in the end, Oldjeans has 0 originality of their own.
The audacity to scream at ILLIT for over 2 months for simply being 5 teenage girls, singing softly, wearing traditional Korean clothing with a blue sky behind them.... attending fashion events, like literally every other K-pop group....
Oh, Oldjeans is so over.
They never were.
The fandom are just a bunch of illiterate gen Z that has never heard of 2000s UK garage
I understand that ur mad with mhj which is fair. She is very problematic but why are you insulting the group and calling them "oldjeans"? They are still very successful this scandal did not impact them they are still going viral and getting brand deals
@@lumii903in Korea and maybe Japan. But outside of that, this whole thing made a massive impact. And the comments I have seen on Korean articles are slowly changing from supporting her, to calling her out.
Public opinion and reputation is fickle. If anymore starts coming out that's she really has been copying and ripping others off of their ideas, then even their Korean reputation can fall as well.
She in on the edge right now and one more screw up that becomes exposed about her and straight up end her whole career. She is trending on dangerous grounds.
@@GrumpyKay Her career is already over anyway. She has neither the money nor, above all, the skills to start her own label, and only a madman would hire her. Personally I would be afraid to even work with her as her employee, she is a dangerous woman. Let's not forget that the same investors, that she had contacted to guzump Hybe, simply warned Hybe.
I read this quote many years ago, and it impressed me very much:
Be aware of the bad, that you are doing today, cos tomorrow, it will brake your legs.
From what I understood from a friend, who is making music, when you want to sample, you have to ask the permission, and then you can use the sample. If I understood correct, practically you are announcing the author that you are using the sample and you have to credit him for that part of your song, and pay royalties. Many song writers and producers are doing that as a normal thing to do, because they will honour and respect the song and author that inspired them. Also the letters between the parties, it seems that it is the usual way, because going to court will imply a lot of money and time to lose. And, yes, they have to provide audio and technical proves and if the conclusion it is plagiarism, they will settle down and pay the credits and compensations. Something like that, and even it isn't so accurate what I understood, it may not be a trial, to know where to file the suit. Anyway MHJ as a full CEO that she was, approved and made herself the producer of NJ, even if she isn't the musical producer, someone should have been very fond of Easier Said Than Done, because they thought that it will be also, easily to do. But they didn't do it right. Instead they MHJ and musical producer damaged ADORE.
the Producer of the track called 250 is the one responsible for the production. This person needs to testify if Ador did the due diligence and checked with the music library worldwide any similarities. I work in media, and we always hire assistants to check this before the go ahead, and pay for any sampling, or get clearance for copyrights. MHJ is not mentioned as Producer, but she is responsible for Ador overall production output, so we will have to see if Hybe will put this on her, bc it was under her management & hopefully a good excuse to fire her mwahaha I've witnessed in realtime your msg to Shakatak on twt (clap clap clap) . Thank you for the update on the case. Shame this is an Ador case, bc I would be so happy to see another case MHJ would have to pay the lawyers from her own pocket. Since Attention, there was a lot of similarities with older songs. MHJ even copied Virg*n Su*cides scene by scene.. Sofia Coppola should sue MHJ as well. she is no genius😆😆
I just listened to both songs. Bubble Gum's chorus is the same melody as Shakatak's song; the only difference, like you mentioned, is the key. It is clearly plagiarism. Keep in mind the Blurred Lines lawsuit a few years ago. In that case the songs in dispute share the same beats but the melodies are not that similar, yet the Blurred Lines writers lost the case and were held liable for damages. Shakatak has a much more substantial case against Ador this time. However, I don't think MHJ will be held liable for this since she's not the writer but I am so hoping that this time, the courts can let Hybe kick her out of Ador.
She is the producer and also the CEO who picks the songs used. She has liability here. Especially since she's trying to use the song for marketing to brands who want to use it.
What about comparisons of NJ’s 'How Sweet' vs Malaysian Indie Band, Midnight Fusic's 2022 hit “Summer Love”?
😅karma is a bitch...so the moral of the story ,dont try to bite the hands that feeds you...plagiarism was the culprit that almost destroyed the 7 kings..theyve weathered so many acusation to destroy them but bangtans are resilient and tough,thats why mhj is trying her damnest to destroy them but you cant destroy something who has to face so much hardship...i hope mhj wake up from her fantasy of being original😁😁😁😁✌✌✌
It’s so brazen of her to raise plagiarism issues with Hybe knowing full well how much she plagiarized herself. Didn’t it occur to her that the issue of plagiarism would be brought up everywhere? You don’t draw attention in others to what you’re as well guilty of.
Narcissists often fall into that trap, though. It's part of their gaslighting to accuse others of what they themselves are doing.
@@ystrw absolutely
@@ystrw Yes. The projection is so prevalent in nearly everything she says. Cheaters often accuse the innocent of cheating without any evidence. If you pay attention, it gives you an immediate place to start with your own investigations. Karma.
What's extremely malicious and treacherous is the timing of the fake plagiarism accusations against New Jeans which coincide perfectly with Hybe's removal of articles addressing far more credible plagiarism accusations for txt's Double Take based on Gd&Top's Knock Out with comments infesting txt's youtube comments at this moment, which happened just a couple of day ago. Hybe prefers to pay for dirty lawyers and antiquated groups to slander its best selling women's group New Jeans than to pay for vocal coaches to improve Bang focused groups after their vocals have been harshly criticized. Hybe also wants to fabricate a fake reason to get rid of Min Hee Jin before November because they are greedy and they don't want to pay for the stock options they promised in their contract even though New Jeans is the best selling women't artist under Hybe that has earned the company tens of millions of dollars even as jealousy obsessed Bang constantly tries to undermine New Jeans by restricting youtube views, trying to steal brand endorsements, refusing to even acknowledge the members' existence and paying for slander and malicious play like this Hybe part timer Soulless while encouraging the slander by bullying Army. Hybe's treacherous play paints New Jeans as the scapegoats for problems Hybe and Bang have caused.
@@johnjackson3735 delusionsal
Next is their song "How Sweet" that sampled Lisette Melendez 90s song "Together Forever " and oh, the sampling of "Power Puff Girls" beat for their Super Shy song.
They got permission for the powerpuff girls because they had a deal, I don’t kno about the others tho
The "Together Forever" song there was only a tiny use of the melody at the :52 mark. Not much else.
@a.jackson6909
Maybe, but listen to the beat from the start, and it's very much similar.
@@kairhen I can see where you may get that. I still think the Shakatah song has more standing in a case of plagarism.
@a.jackson6909
Yes of course, and Seoulite TV has already mentioned it b4 and others too. But since it's today's topic, you can find so many articles on RUclips about NJs plagiarism from various artists.
Yo, MHJ’s big Bubble is about to burst.. she’s sitting on ground-zero!!
It's not sampling, that's where you use a recorded audio clip from a copyrighted recording. This is copyright infringement (alleged) of a composition. It can be a high bar (Spirit v. Led Zeppelin), but either way it's gonna cost Ador a lot of legal fees, thus lowering profit and MHJ's potential stock profit. Listening to the songs myself, it sounds the same in terms of melody, harmony and rhythm. Hybe will fight the good fight, but find the silver lining if they lose.
If Hybe were smart, they'd leave it to Ador people to handle!!!! Why contribute to Hybe paying any of Ador's attorneys fees!!!!! Really, let MHJ profit take a big hit and "makes financial damage to Ador" a reason to fire her!
Sean, it's good to see your continuing informative and insightful reports on what's happening at HYBE with MHJ. I think you're right that HYBE may be adding this situation as an additional item to MHJ''s long list of offenses against her parent company.
My thoughts are that this case will be settled between Ador and Shakatak without going to court which you mentioned in your report. Ador is now led by four executives (I.e., MHJ + 3 HYBE execs). The 3 execs have probably taken a look at this and agreed with Shakatak that plagiarism took place. But as with all things involving MHJ, there needs to be solid evidence or else MHJ slithers away unscathed. The 3 execs needed Shakatak to formally give them the complete list of New Jeans plagiarism offenses so that MHJ can be dealt with effectively. The exclusive news report confirms that the official notice happened.
I doubt that HYBE, Ador, and Shakatak's legal counsel haven't already reached an "agreement" on the outcome of this unsavory situation. But HYBE is once again going through the meticulous steps of documentation as they work methodically through this latest MHJ problem. Shakatak is probably only interested in compensation and making sure it doesn't happen ever again.
The people who may really have to worry are Sony Music and the Korean/Hong Kong Music Association. This is a precedent -setting case. South Korea was already discussing an Asian Grammy startup. The Grammys may be watching this case to determine if there is a systemic problem ahead with Kpop "sampling" music from other countries. The Shakatak case could determine what happens next with the Grammys which now impacts the music industry's financial streams between continents. I'm not a music industry expert, but I agree with you. This case could open a can of worms beyond HYBE and Ador.
Keep up the good work, Sean! 👍
Stay away from junk food is an apt metaphor.
I just want to say I appreciate ur take in this issue. Keep it up. Deliver as real translation on every topic that involved mhj greed.
This could be Hybe’s ace in the hole of getting rid of her…if they’re successful against her.
The shamam sister left to darkness 😂😂😂
She's going to get fired 😂😂😂😂
She thinking bcuz the band is from to Britian she could get away with stealing from others, bcuz she has stolen and is still trying to steal from others, while blaming others for her faults...its good that Hybe has control of ador, but she needs to pay for the damages bcuz she had full control before Hybe retook control...her me mentality & self victimizing is finally catching up with her...
It's all catching up to her and her patsy. This is only the beginning. HYBE will continue to be professional, methodical and strategic. The media and public don't buy what she is selling.
This is when you need a large company to have your back but you messed up and want to be independent.
It really does sound similar. Bizarre that they would do this. Why push a new group with "sample heavy music"? The artists deserve their own sound.
Sean, I’m sure Shakatak wants more than a compensation .. ador offering a payment is not enough.
I’m sure they want their names on the track as producers and composers, therefore, getting a *HUGE* cut from the song and album revenue.
Because from the evidence you presented on that letter, …. it’s *A LOT* more than _just a simple sample_ 🥺👉🏼👈🏼 *basically they are saying WE OWN THE SONG*
The way POETIC JUSTICE just poetic justiced like no other poetic justice ever poetic justiced before in poetic justice town *_OOOOFFF_* 😂😂😂😂
Ice Ice Baby vs Pressure
under pressure
Yeah it usually like that people settle, the guy from ice ice said she used one note different do it isn't sample anymore but curt said different do he had to pay and credit. It is usually like that....
I am a OG BTS OG fsn and I so want to support NJ, i brought their first two albums, but MHJ really left a bad taste in my mouth. So, i am stepping back until she is gone from NJs life!!😢
Hey, as another fellow Army, you should know the majority of us (Armys) blocked Newjeans on Spotify (that's why their numbers are so bad compared to before) and we also stopped supporting them the moment their "mother" brought up BTS name and caused them to get dragged in this mess. And we won't support them ever again because the girls supported their "mother" (MHJ). Newjeans is over for Armys, if you want to listen to girlgroup music you can listen to Illit and Le Sserafim, they need the support after also being victims of that crazy lady.
i saw this on reddit so take it with a grain of salt but apparently its been a long time theory in the fandom that gigi is actually min heejin. since gigi has not written for anyone else but nj. and it seems to be a pen name more than anything, and no one really knows anything else about them. it would make sense that she doesn't really know how to write but she can rearrange certain aspects of the lyrics and change a few words or change the structure of a sentence. so she would automatically be put as a lyricist. idk, kind of interesting to think about because this was a theory since last year. and if true, that would mean mhj has another problem to think about since she is in the credits.
Gigi or Gigi (KOR) is a korean lyricist team consisting of Hyunji Kim and Daehwan Seok. So no, mhj is not gigi.
I did a quick google search on this when i saw the rabbits a few months back claiming mhj is responsible for Tae’s songs in Layover.
Just want to see if the members of NJ are going to thank min heejin when they will perform under hybe with min heejin being proved wrong and taken action against as she tried to betray hybe and was using the mask of plagiarism when the main issue is about betrayal
ADOR thought too highly of itself... thinking no one would dare challenge them 😒😅
I'ma get out my 🍿 and watch this shit go down😂thank you for always updating us highly appreciated.❤ARMY❤BTS❤ARMY❤🎉🎉🎉
LOL Shakatak said whatever, I just slapped you with a lawsuit.
I mean, it's normally Karma is an Army. But I guess it's also Karma is Hybe, lol.
I bet that HYBE and Pan regretted hiring Mhj but that's what they get for letting her run the show!!
Somebody call the shaman😂😂😂I need a heads up cause this is getting crazier👀👀
Artist do this all the time. They choose to risk having to share royalties over paying them up front
Olivia Rodrigo was having to pay left and right on her first album and look at Ariana with 7 Rings - super popular song and she ended up making $0 on ot
oh I didn't know any of that as I don't listen to either of their music heard a bit and it just wasn't to my tastes so never looked into them as artists.
Well now not only Adore has been hurt but so has Hybe. Get rid of the B!
It’s really hard for me to listen to their music or even watch their MVs because of the wholesale copying of “concepts” and musical influences straight out of the late 80s and 90s. I don’t know if the girls don’t know any better. I really drew the line with NJ after the Lisa Lopes car accident reenactment in their “How Sweet” MV, not to mention all the other dangerous things they did in that music video. I’ve had enough. Those girls need to be responsible for their own careers, as individuals and as a group. They can’t allow this MHJ to destroy them like this.
Those girls support their "mother" and think exactly the same as her. Recently in a kpop concert they even ignored Illit. Stop thinking they are victims when they are just as bad as her for watching how their "mother" almost ruined the career of other groups and not doing anything to stop it. We should all stop supporting all these ugly people and start supporting the groups that are the real victims here: Illit, Le Sserafim and BTS in a way.
"Stay away from junkfood" love it!!
You can’t eat your cake and have it 😂😂😂😂. I love the sound of settle out of court and get kicked out lol
WTW...her shaman didn't tell her that this would happen? Schooled! LOL!
like they saying goes...... You reap what you sow...
I remember the discussion from you on plagiarizing by New Jeans. Karma is B. Too bad HYBE has to clean up MJ’s mess😅😅😅
I think HYBE should always monitor every song that NJ ADOR releases because whatever they do is the result of plagiarism if they don't want to always spend money on plagiarism that ADOR does, and MHJ is so clever in pointing out the problem when JIMIN's album is published
After this situation if I were Hybe I would be doing my own separate checks from now on thoroughly on each labels music from now on. It's sad that others will have to suffer being under such a rigorous checking process to protect the parent company because one awful person that oversaw one of the labels.