@@gadsanchez4929 almost a year late but with 7800X3D and 4080s on 1440p (not ultrawide) with game settings: Shadows - off, Reflections - None, Character model limit - Medium, I'm getting as low as 30 FPS on big WvW fights (I swear I've seen it dip to low 20s on 3 way SMC fights). This game is so damn poorly optimized lmao
Would be nice to see this in WvW blob fight, 3 blobs in SM or something simular :) Ty for the test, looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D CPU for upgrade.
The irony is that this guy probably dropped around 2k on a machine. An absolute monster gaming setup most average joes can only dream about and still cant go above a steady 160fps in LA and goes as low as 32-36FPS in some big boss fights... Granted - Super Sampling is probably eating up a lot horsepower but the game engine is still so badly optimised. Imagine 15 years ago when games like Crysis, Far Cry and Supreme Commander would bring any monster setup to its knees. Now we have an 11 year old game doing just that but the technology its bringing to its knees is some hundreds of thousand times better than the hardware that was originally available when GW2 was released in 2012... The GTX600 series for Nvidia and the 79xx series for AMD. You would expect An extremely modern machine with the best gaming tech for this year with so much more processing power to absolutely cheese GW2.
@@Witiok1992 I dont think that's ever going to happen IMO. Most of the people who worked on the original game and GW2 are long gone. Many have left on their own accord while the others got laid off. There has been multiple rounds of layoffs in the last few years.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki In fact im pretty sure they are working on gw3 as we speak, it got leaked a while back, and you can see it clearly in the arenanet jobposts at their website for a unannounched project
Thanks for sharing. Pretty much what I expected - with the single thread performance limited engine of GW2 your FPS stays higher under the worst conditions. You'd probably do yourself a favor if you lower that last Character Model Quality setting.
It will play great everywhere but large blob fights whether its WvW or Open world Meta fights just like the rest of us lol. If you just lower the character model limit you can really gain a lot of fps while keeping visual fidelity. This game will make everyone cry at some point at how much money some of us have spent to get 30fps lol. It's still a great game just the engine is a slug.
@@joeysmit4644 ok so you get a lot of performance loss for having an ultra wide that sucks was thinking about getting one myself but on my 5800x3d it will probly be a bigger hit to performance
Guild Wars 2 is horribly optimized. He's getting such low framerates and his utilization isn't even 50%. I don't get much higher framerates with a 5800x3d and a 4070-ti, than I would with a 3570k and a 970 in 1440p. It's an 11-year-old game, framerates shouldn't suck so hard. I think it might be a server polling issue.
@@morgan5941 "I think it might be a server polling issue." The single biggest factor in CPU performance for this game is character model count. Set that lower until you're comfortable.
I was going to change my Ryzen 7 8700G for a Ryzen 7 5700X3D, yep... go back to AM4 do you think that is better? I mean for Guild Wars 2? and other games for V-3D Cache?
Downgrading to an older platform probably isn't worth it since AM4 is end of life now. Probably better to just wait for the new ryzen chips to come out and get a discount on the 7 series. GW2 probably wouldn't change too much for an X3D especially in large group content.
@@Extreme_Narwhal sorry for my english but I had to use the google translator for try to explain this haha I had a problem with my motherboard, an Asrock A620I Lightning Wifi, because my APU sometimes got stuck, everything froze and the screen went black and then it reacted and I got this message with the AMD drivers that said "AMD Software has detected that a driver on your system has timed out. A problem report has been created that can be sent to AMD to help improve the software" now my setup is Ryzen 7 8700G + RTX 3060 12GB but now when using it as a CPU with the iGPU disabled The maximum temperature that it gives me while doing nothing or playing a light video game is around 76 to 80 degrees Celsius and I had to lower its temperature using Ryzen Master Utility. A friend told me that he had a similar problem with his Ryzen 7 5800X3D and that the cores of his processor were "asleep" since it was not using all the cores and was reloading on about two cores. Now he has a B550 motherboard and he told me that he had to get all the cores activated on the Ryzen Master. so that the workload was better distributed in all applications and by doing so the temperature also dropped from 80 degrees Celsius to approximately 55 degrees. So, he told me that the best thing I can do is change the motherboard for a B650I, and well, I was looking and I like the one from MSI. MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI. So I'll see how it goes. I still thought that downgrading and returning to AM4 would not be the solution.
Guild Wars isn't that GPU intensive. For 1440p gaming a RX 7700 or 7800 is the sweet spot price/ performance pairing with such an CPU. If you are in AI programming (on windows OS) or streamer nvidia would be the better choice. For pure gaming and working i rather would choose AMD, because you have access to SAM (Smart access memory). On linux AMD is always the better choice, beacuse of their open sources projects and compatility.
not sure if you already bought something but I'm doing decent with a 1050 ti doing 180 fps no events at 1440p, the lag from rendering other players so the CPU with high l3 cache gives better performance. go for the best x3d and processor you can buy and add a cheap GPU on it unless you play other games, I would go for a 4060 only for GW2 just to have a little bit of room for other non demanding games
Omg the smoothness 🤩🤩🤩🤩 can i reach the same FPS and smoothnes? if i go for 7800x3d CPU 7800XT GPU ( cause 4090 nvidia is too expensive and costs more than this whole build combined ) 32gb RAM DDR5 1tb kingston SSD 750W Asus tuf gaming cooler And which cooler would u recommend?
Possibly but specs looks good, I haven't owned an AMD GPU in years so not sure where their performance would lie but Guild Wars 2 is a very CPU intensive so i'd imagine an half-decent modern GPU would work just fine. If you're getting a 7800X3D consider getting a Large air cooler something like Noctua NH-D15 or a AIO water cooler in a 280 or 360mm size, the 7800X3D does run naturally hotter than other CPUs.
These frame rates are insane! Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing this! Would you mind doing one in WvW zerg fights? I would love to see the performance.
Yes please! Also a side to side test with Shadows Off should be awesome!
😂😂😂
@@gadsanchez4929 almost a year late but with 7800X3D and 4080s on 1440p (not ultrawide) with game settings: Shadows - off, Reflections - None, Character model limit - Medium, I'm getting as low as 30 FPS on big WvW fights (I swear I've seen it dip to low 20s on 3 way SMC fights). This game is so damn poorly optimized lmao
damn... so i'd probably just be straight with a 5600x then you think?
appreciate this benchmark. Thank you
Would be nice to see this in WvW blob fight, 3 blobs in SM or something simular :) Ty for the test, looking at the AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D CPU for upgrade.
still 40fps in group fights T_T
The irony is that this guy probably dropped around 2k on a machine. An absolute monster gaming setup most average joes can only dream about and still cant go above a steady 160fps in LA and goes as low as 32-36FPS in some big boss fights...
Granted - Super Sampling is probably eating up a lot horsepower but the game engine is still so badly optimised.
Imagine 15 years ago when games like Crysis, Far Cry and Supreme Commander would bring any monster setup to its knees. Now we have an 11 year old game doing just that but the technology its bringing to its knees is some hundreds of thousand times better than the hardware that was originally available when GW2 was released in 2012... The GTX600 series for Nvidia and the 79xx series for AMD.
You would expect An extremely modern machine with the best gaming tech for this year with so much more processing power to absolutely cheese GW2.
As you said, its the engine fault... The game cant even use more than 40% of the cpu/gpu. The thing is mostly running on a single core.
Waiting for gw 3?
@@Witiok1992 I dont think that's ever going to happen IMO. Most of the people who worked on the original game and GW2 are long gone. Many have left on their own accord while the others got laid off. There has been multiple rounds of layoffs in the last few years.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki In fact im pretty sure they are working on gw3 as we speak, it got leaked a while back, and you can see it clearly in the arenanet jobposts at their website for a unannounched project
Wonder how much of a boost it is to you if you turn off reflections lol.
Thanks for sharing. Pretty much what I expected - with the single thread performance limited engine of GW2 your FPS stays higher under the worst conditions. You'd probably do yourself a favor if you lower that last Character Model Quality setting.
How would Guild Wars 2 perform at 1440p with a 7600x and 7800xt?
It will play great everywhere but large blob fights whether its WvW or Open world Meta fights just like the rest of us lol. If you just lower the character model limit you can really gain a lot of fps while keeping visual fidelity. This game will make everyone cry at some point at how much money some of us have spent to get 30fps lol. It's still a great game just the engine is a slug.
Guessing this is 4k? I get very similar sometimes more with 5800x3d and 3070ti 1440p tho
in the beginning of the video the settings show 3440 x 1440
@@joeysmit4644 ok so you get a lot of performance loss for having an ultra wide that sucks was thinking about getting one myself but on my 5800x3d it will probly be a bigger hit to performance
Guild Wars 2 is horribly optimized. He's getting such low framerates and his utilization isn't even 50%. I don't get much higher framerates with a 5800x3d and a 4070-ti, than I would with a 3570k and a 970 in 1440p. It's an 11-year-old game, framerates shouldn't suck so hard. I think it might be a server polling issue.
@@morgan5941 "I think it might be a server polling issue."
The single biggest factor in CPU performance for this game is character model count. Set that lower until you're comfortable.
I was going to change my Ryzen 7 8700G for a Ryzen 7 5700X3D, yep... go back to AM4 do you think that is better? I mean for Guild Wars 2? and other games for V-3D Cache?
Downgrading to an older platform probably isn't worth it since AM4 is end of life now. Probably better to just wait for the new ryzen chips to come out and get a discount on the 7 series. GW2 probably wouldn't change too much for an X3D especially in large group content.
@@Extreme_Narwhal sorry for my english but I had to use the google translator for try to explain this haha
I had a problem with my motherboard, an Asrock A620I Lightning Wifi, because my APU sometimes got stuck, everything froze and the screen went black and then it reacted and I got this message with the AMD drivers that said "AMD Software has detected that a driver on your system has timed out. A problem report has been created that can be sent to AMD to help improve the software"
now my setup is
Ryzen 7 8700G + RTX 3060 12GB
but now when using it as a CPU with the iGPU disabled
The maximum temperature that it gives me while doing nothing or playing a light video game is around 76 to 80 degrees Celsius and I had to lower its temperature using Ryzen Master Utility.
A friend told me that he had a similar problem with his Ryzen 7 5800X3D and that the cores of his processor were "asleep" since it was not using all the cores and was reloading on about two cores. Now he has a B550 motherboard and he told me that he had to get all the cores activated on the Ryzen Master. so that the workload was better distributed in all applications and by doing so the temperature also dropped from 80 degrees Celsius to approximately 55 degrees.
So, he told me that the best thing I can do is change the motherboard for a B650I, and well, I was looking and I like the one from MSI.
MSI MPG B650I EDGE WIFI.
So I'll see how it goes. I still thought that downgrading and returning to AM4 would not be the solution.
Out of curiosity, im building a new pc just for GW2, what gpu would you pair with 7800x3d for just GW2 at 1440p?
RTX 4070
Guild Wars isn't that GPU intensive. For 1440p gaming a RX 7700 or 7800 is the sweet spot price/ performance pairing with such an CPU. If you are in AI programming (on windows OS) or streamer nvidia would be the better choice. For pure gaming and working i rather would choose AMD, because you have access to SAM (Smart access memory).
On linux AMD is always the better choice, beacuse of their open sources projects and compatility.
not sure if you already bought something but I'm doing decent with a 1050 ti doing 180 fps no events at 1440p, the lag from rendering other players so the CPU with high l3 cache gives better performance. go for the best x3d and processor you can buy and add a cheap GPU on it unless you play other games, I would go for a 4060 only for GW2 just to have a little bit of room for other non demanding games
@@Duesi2024 I'm having between 80 and 155 fps in 4K only with a AMD 5600 and and a 1660super lol.
Omg the smoothness 🤩🤩🤩🤩 can i reach the same FPS and smoothnes? if i go for
7800x3d CPU
7800XT GPU ( cause 4090 nvidia is too expensive and costs more than this whole build combined )
32gb RAM DDR5
1tb kingston SSD
750W Asus tuf gaming cooler
And which cooler would u recommend?
Possibly but specs looks good, I haven't owned an AMD GPU in years so not sure where their performance would lie but Guild Wars 2 is a very CPU intensive so i'd imagine an half-decent modern GPU would work just fine. If you're getting a 7800X3D consider getting a Large air cooler something like Noctua NH-D15 or a AIO water cooler in a 280 or 360mm size, the 7800X3D does run naturally hotter than other CPUs.
I wish they would optimize the game already. Good build like yours are wasted on this game.
Weird I have similar performances with a 1660 super and ryzen 5600 lol
My Pc is so bad I have to play with all settings on low, and still only manage 20 FPS in a few zones lol.
I play at 1440p with an RTX 3700, should I be looking at Reshade? I usually like my FPS > 90
Only if you're unhappy with how the game looks for colors, i've never bothered using reshade since the game still holds up pretty well to my eyes.
even the fastest CPU and GPU, still got 35 fps haha
why did you pair the best gaming cpu with an nvidia card?
He paired it with the best GPU available lol. He got em $$$
1080p is the way to go guys... I was hoping to see some good wvw action
No lol 1440p is the way to go. 1080p is a blurry mess and 4k is kinda overrated. 1440p is a good middle group for quality & fps.
Agreed, not a fan of 1440p 1080p 360hz zowie baby
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