I think this is an important observation, he's not just blindly bombing in, he usually has a full buff from medic and quick follow up from his team that allows him to be enabled to do the stuff he did, and he has the aim to justify it as well
@@skeez1715 as much as I love kaido I have to agree. Habib is like all the best demos the game had combined in one. Probably even the best in the game right now.
Zachary Salsberry True, they do play very differently. But from watching comparisons between pipe accuracy and airshots between b4nny and kaidus POVs shows quite a difference in pipe accuracy. b4nny hits a lot of pipes, but he misses quite a bit. Kaidus almost never misses, even with airshots.
jrggrop Nerfing the flamethrower didn't change the whole pyro playstyle it just made sure pyros couldn't just full out w+m1 and destroy a group of people. This however changes demo as a whole, from the damage dealer to a joke with shields that will get destroyed by heavies and sentries (if they can't use pipes that is).
in the first clip, i think i was more impressed by the the medic with that double tap uber save. AND he seemed to make it out, thanks to kaidus inssurance ofcourse. :^) just good stuff everywhere
I remember this vid was referencing some patch that was gonna nerf something... does anyone remember what it was? I think they ended up retracting the change...
Right when i saw the sticky change note my first thought was "Competitive is gonna be hurting" Taking 2 secounds to reach full damage is just way to long :/
This new fix will actually show how good demos actually are not by just using spam but using gamesense. I dont think kaidus will have a problem with it.
I disagree. Demos have essentially been hamstrung by this nerf because of how important stickies are for controlling space and dealing damage. Most of the kills in this video would not work with new stickies, especially air stickies which used to be so very satisfying. If the self damage also ramped up then it would be a different story. I'm sure kaidus will find a way to make it work, he's a beast but demos are struggling. Warhuryeah just said fuck it and went heavy. new meta?
tetzell On his stream he said that he doesn't want to play demo next season, whether you are good or not demoman just got it's role changed completely and people that think it was easy because of 'sticky spam' are very ill informed, demo was the hardest class in 6v6 in my opinion and actually stickies are a lot harder to aim than pipes, this nerf takes away a lot of it's role and probably makes it easier because while there were situations where the old demo could play aggressive in the right situation and really change the tide for the team it is now going to only work with a 'byte style' demoman.
harry9397 I totally agree harry, and I hope kaidus does continue to play even if not as demo. such an entertaining and talented player would be sorely missed. I honestly don't understand the reasoning behind this nerf. I get the whole 'stickies are op win bombs' opinion but demo was always a glass cannon, even with the old stickies. I suppose things are different for the pub community and that's the one that matters to valve but it is very frustrating. I understand that comp is supposed to move closer to pubs rather than the other way around but I think its a shame. Part of me hopes that they lessen the nerf to allow demo stickies to still be viable but I really doubt that.
Theex main Meta's will change? This nerf destroyed Highlander, not that I give a shit because I wouldn't touch HL with a 10ft pole but if Valve would give a rats ass about comp TF2, Highlander would be their choice.
That's a bad idea for the future of the game. It will isolate comp tf2 from the casual scene even more than it already is, and there will be less and less players coming into the comp community. Both UGC and ETF2L have stated they aren't going to work with a plugin, and I hope ESEA will do the same.
YexaC I'm sorry you think that way, because a lot of comp tf2 players I know still enjoy pubs. Regardless of your enjoyment of pubs, separating the comp community from the casual scene is bad because there will be less and less players coming into competitive. Making a plugin that separates the comp and vanilla communities is the quickest way to kill competitive tf2.
Justin Fedorchak Given how far airburst range is The only difference in the first shot is about .1 seconds for the RL, Thing is the SL fires .2 seconds faster each following shot resulting in it being faster over time still dealing more damage and with a larger splash. It needs to be nerfed.
Doc_Ock_Rokc okay, you are new. that is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard. The stickies do not fire faster for each subsequent shot lmfao. even if that were true, it wouldn't even make a difference in the slightest because the player would have to manually compensate, which means they would have to click 0.2 seconds faster each time to make any use of it. they can't just hold down m1 because stickies don't auto-fire like every other weapon, they charge. have fun pubbing spy
Still got the great GL, stickybomb nerf was needed, it was totally op, and as i pyro main i can agree with the axting nerf aswell, now hopefully more people will use the homewrecker/powerjack.
People really need to shut up about the GL replacing stickies. THE GRENADE LAUNCHER COULD NOT EVEN COMPARE TO THE STICKY LAUNCHER BEFORE THE NERF. Being able to control the detonations makes a huge difference, and was why stickies were so good.
***** "as i pyro main". Your argument is pointless now because of the fact that you're a pyro main. Your opinions aren't heard or they're not necessary. P.S you murdered english.
TOTC forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3109134 Create a file called Autoexec.cfg using Notepad, paste the code in this link into the file, then move the file to your tf/cfg folder. Hope this helps c:
He is using dx9 but with mat_specular 0 But now because of the gun mettle update mat_specualr zero makes Aussies more shiny But when using dx8 mat_specular Zero it will look what he has got
That I would like. As a Scout main it was a pain in the ass to just get sticky blasted to bits by even low-skilled demos. Atleast one second still makes it viable, but not enough to use it as a primary.
I can play Scout well, but when they burst all around you and can't even get close, retreat, or jump.... well. Sometimes I would encounter multiple demomen all doing the same thing. Sometimes not even double jumping in different directions, backpedaling, feinting, worked. any demoman spamming stickies could deny a scout getting near enough to do anything before being forced to back off or die.
Kaidus, I used to do this but I quit tf2 and forgot how to, how do you make it so the damage you do stacks like as in if you do -100 and -100 it will say -200. If you do get what I mean.
Wow I mean maybe something besides demo could be considered for 6's? NO WAY!!! There are more than 4 classes. People with skill will still be useful demos. There was a reason only 1 demo was aloud. but now maybe we can have 2?
it's not a kaidus video if it doesn't make you think you've received a steam message multiple times
2:42
I still watch this now and then or tell new players to watch this if you want to see a proper good demo.
Hope you do fine all these years later.
The true hero behind these videos is the medic who is always behind kaidus
I think this is an important observation, he's not just blindly bombing in, he usually has a full buff from medic and quick follow up from his team that allows him to be enabled to do the stuff he did, and he has the aim to justify it as well
title is misleading kaidus did not miss
Oh that was good
I mean he misses in the first clip but to each their own
come back soon kaido. We'll miss you. Always my demo idle. You still will be
idol*... autocorrect
*Warning* Steam notification sounds in the video, they are not yours.
I felt into that. :'(
Still checked my taskbar everytime.
This is TF2 porn. RIP Kaido, please come back.
He's back. He quit for a while and became a tf2 coach due to a wrist injury.
The shots where he prefires his pipes before detonating his stickies gets me everytime
This guy's similar to a terrible Flappy Bird player, because he's always hitting those pipes!
lol, nice one.
+Bishop Alexander GOT EM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA BRO STFU YOURE FUNNY ASF COMDEIAN MODE
this comment smells old
@@milkpigeon You smell old
It's even more funny because of the song+constant yelling for medic
Kaidus is the reason I've devoted my entire BP and competitive career to demoman, wonderful gameplay dude, incredible really.
keep it up!
this video made me a full time demo main and made want to get good at sticky jumping, I'll always love seeing kaidus play demo best shit ever
This video means so much to me. Thank you for the inspiration kaidus
kaidus is op. kaidus is best demoman of all time in team fortress 2 in the world :) even nerf couldnt stop him
pros gonna have to give that title to HRG b4nny
john c Habib?
@@skeez1715 as much as I love kaido I have to agree. Habib is like all the best demos the game had combined in one. Probably even the best in the game right now.
Best demoman In my opinion, congrats on your success with Crown Sports
If b4nny is Pipe Jesus, there's no doubt that kaidus is Pipe God.
+Bishop Alexander but b4nny can play all classes
+something and kaidus can play demo ;´)
Adam Hrdlička well done sherlock
+Bishop Alexander Different playstyles, it's apples to oranges. Kaidus is much more aggressive.
Zachary Salsberry True, they do play very differently. But from watching comparisons between pipe accuracy and airshots between b4nny and kaidus POVs shows quite a difference in pipe accuracy. b4nny hits a lot of pipes, but he misses quite a bit. Kaidus almost never misses, even with airshots.
Happy 10 years
Kaidus, I don't know how your so amazing, but your frags keep amazing me no matter how many times I watch.
the only frag video that feels like a romantic fun dance
They have to change it back.... Otherwise comp demoman is pointless. (Unless you use charge)
Valve doesn't balance the game around comp.
jrggrop
either way, demoman in general is kinda shit now
juju Now you know how Pyros have felt since they nerfed flamethrower damage into the ground.
jrggrop Nerfing the flamethrower didn't change the whole pyro playstyle it just made sure pyros couldn't just full out w+m1 and destroy a group of people. This however changes demo as a whole, from the damage dealer to a joke with shields that will get destroyed by heavies and sentries (if they can't use pipes that is).
The axtinguisher is hit now only doing mini-crits from the front
we'll miss you :,(
I'll miss you too kaidus.
HS Paradox you know he's back right? as of right when I write this he's playing for se7en
Derrick helms yay!
in the first clip, i think i was more impressed by the the medic with that double tap uber save. AND he seemed to make it out, thanks to kaidus inssurance ofcourse. :^) just good stuff everywhere
2:43. I checked my steam
+Col Byte me too, but i found out something real bad is...... i have no friends ;(
rip stickies
I swear to god he added those steam and windows sounds just to make us confused
I cried. The nerf was too big
You and grape have the same super power of stopping and killing the entire enemy team.
Casual Fortress 2
"I've ubered because JAFOOLEY" :D
i love how this video alone shows how kaidus is the Michael-fucking-Jordan of demoman
"He's good and stuff" -dd5f
Congratz it's back.
poor medics who push in with kaidus ubered
"ready? lets go. Popped."
*kaidus jumps away*
"come back i disconnected"
Who is he gonna miss? This was 4 years before I started getting into comp.
Serious comment btw*
There's still comp on tf?
@@ossamaghenissa1234 yeah it's probably got more players now.
Old stickies, this was uploaded when stickies were originally nerfed to be nearly useless
@@Anathonn ah I thought the guy died or something.
i will study this video (even if i have to watch it 5,765 times) until im as good as him
Asher Nelson lol good luck 2000 hours of demo training :-)
Lionel Schoettel make it more like 5000
SemuckiProductions 3:25 best move ever he is one or the best demo in the world
One of the best frag movies ever good job!
Note : this was 5 years ago, if he still played then dear god...
I remember this vid was referencing some patch that was gonna nerf something... does anyone remember what it was? I think they ended up retracting the change...
i actually have this on my music playlist
Golly! This sure is satisfying. I really need to play demo more often.
The word of the day is MEEEEEEDIIIIIIIC
It almost feels like yesterday stickies were still good :'(
This shit makes me so depressed.
Your frags make me cry !!
Make it available on mobile ;_;
BlazePhoenix Can't unless he changes music not subjected to copyright.
Right when i saw the sticky change note my first thought was "Competitive is gonna be hurting" Taking 2 secounds to reach full damage is just way to long :/
I wonder how many hours he had on Demo at the time he recorded this video.
cheers to the demomain's tears
That pain train rain of pain.
Won't be the same good feeling to pick at demoman anymore :/ Not even sure if demo will have the biggest damage output anymore.
Pockets have the highest DPM now usually.
This is the worst thing valve has done to tf2 since the gunslinger :|
at least we got new taunts I guess...
That beautiful 2 sticky jumps
Those pipe snap shots 10/10
a good video again, i love your videos and your stream is simply cool. pls continue it, for me you're the best demo in the world ;)
Checked my steam window like 10 times.
hey man could you send me the download link to this hud? also very nice clip :)
An Artist with Stickies
She's back. Nerf was reverted.
We wont miss it. *Cheers of every non-demo main*
awesome stuff
Why is the video down? :(
0:54 I've never seen someone get that outplayed
This new fix will actually show how good demos actually are not by just using spam but using gamesense. I dont think kaidus will have a problem with it.
I disagree. Demos have essentially been hamstrung by this nerf because of how important stickies are for controlling space and dealing damage. Most of the kills in this video would not work with new stickies, especially air stickies which used to be so very satisfying. If the self damage also ramped up then it would be a different story. I'm sure kaidus will find a way to make it work, he's a beast but demos are struggling. Warhuryeah just said fuck it and went heavy. new meta?
I meant good demos. Not every demo. But yeah metas will change because of it, you are right with that.
tetzell On his stream he said that he doesn't want to play demo next season, whether you are good or not demoman just got it's role changed completely and people that think it was easy because of 'sticky spam' are very ill informed, demo was the hardest class in 6v6 in my opinion and actually stickies are a lot harder to aim than pipes, this nerf takes away a lot of it's role and probably makes it easier because while there were situations where the old demo could play aggressive in the right situation and really change the tide for the team it is now going to only work with a 'byte style' demoman.
harry9397 I totally agree harry, and I hope kaidus does continue to play even if not as demo. such an entertaining and talented player would be sorely missed. I honestly don't understand the reasoning behind this nerf. I get the whole 'stickies are op win bombs' opinion but demo was always a glass cannon, even with the old stickies. I suppose things are different for the pub community and that's the one that matters to valve but it is very frustrating. I understand that comp is supposed to move closer to pubs rather than the other way around but I think its a shame. Part of me hopes that they lessen the nerf to allow demo stickies to still be viable but I really doubt that.
Theex main
Meta's will change? This nerf destroyed Highlander, not that I give a shit because I wouldn't touch HL with a 10ft pole but if Valve would give a rats ass about comp TF2, Highlander would be their choice.
Will you stop playing tf2?
Before this?
Still waiting for him to reply? Lmao
I regularly come come here just to watch the push pipe at 00:56.
the memories..
rip demo ;d
litty love it
AND MIRELIN UBERS KAIDUS! WHAT A PLAY!
lol did you notice when they see him coming they be LIKE holy shit Gotta hide
arent they working on plugins to reverse the nerf?
they're not going to be aloud.
That's a bad idea for the future of the game. It will isolate comp tf2 from the casual scene even more than it already is, and there will be less and less players coming into the comp community. Both UGC and ETF2L have stated they aren't going to work with a plugin, and I hope ESEA will do the same.
YexaC I'm sorry you think that way, because a lot of comp tf2 players I know still enjoy pubs.
Regardless of your enjoyment of pubs, separating the comp community from the casual scene is bad because there will be less and less players coming into competitive. Making a plugin that separates the comp and vanilla communities is the quickest way to kill competitive tf2.
poor sticky launcher
and i'll miss tf2 aswell
hey kaidus can you tell me how many hours have you at demo? btw nice video!
is tis about stickys geting nerfed?
Stickybombs should still be nerfed. Dealing 110 damage while soldiers only max out at 80 in the same range? complete bullshit.
are you new? direct rockets do 112 max.
Justin Fedorchak
at point blank. at the range air-bursts happen they seal 80 max while sl deals 117 max
and stickies have arm time while rockets deal instant damage. you must be new.
Justin Fedorchak
Given how far airburst range is The only difference in the first shot is about .1 seconds for the RL, Thing is the SL fires .2 seconds faster each following shot resulting in it being faster over time still dealing more damage and with a larger splash. It needs to be nerfed.
Doc_Ock_Rokc okay, you are new. that is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard. The stickies do not fire faster for each subsequent shot lmfao. even if that were true, it wouldn't even make a difference in the slightest because the player would have to manually compensate, which means they would have to click 0.2 seconds faster each time to make any use of it. they can't just hold down m1 because stickies don't auto-fire like every other weapon, they charge. have fun pubbing spy
R.I.P Sticky bomb launcher...
***** no
nicely done, you're giving me reason not to switch to pocket
oh boy things could have ended up being very different ^
Disgustingly good omg
cool frags
Still got the great GL, stickybomb nerf was needed, it was totally op, and as i pyro main i can agree with the axting nerf aswell, now hopefully more people will use the homewrecker/powerjack.
"stickybomb nerf was needed..... as i pyro main".
People really need to shut up about the GL replacing stickies. THE GRENADE LAUNCHER COULD NOT EVEN COMPARE TO THE STICKY LAUNCHER BEFORE THE NERF.
Being able to control the detonations makes a huge difference, and was why stickies were so good.
Dhuzy64 Scottish Resistance is far better now.
Biffownz I'm going into detail about how people are over reacting about these nerfs, the biggest one imo is for heavy.
***** "as i pyro main". Your argument is pointless now because of the fact that you're a pyro main. Your opinions aren't heard or they're not necessary. P.S you murdered english.
What's is your config kaidus ??
Valve just saw kaidus's video. that's all R.I.P stickies :C
Pipe Jesus just stretching his legs.
the sticky bomb launcher is like cheese!
Joshua Eggestein Because it's really good, I guess.
+Joshua Eggestein because specularity
How do you make the enemies disappear when you kill them? Like they dont become gory giblets or drop dead.
TOTC forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3109134 Create a file called Autoexec.cfg using Notepad, paste the code in this link into the file, then move the file to your tf/cfg folder. Hope this helps c:
TOTC search tf2mate config
Michael Alchin Two Years later and I need to thank you :D the config really helped with my FPS situation.
Jason, are these from just competitive matches? Or is it scrims, pugs etc.
both
No pug clips - some scrims and mostly matches
anyone know what level of DX he has to get his australiums to look like that?
He is using dx9 but with mat_specular 0
But now because of the gun mettle update mat_specualr zero makes Aussies more shiny
But when using dx8 mat_specular Zero it will look what he has got
why thank you friend
so good and don't worry kaidus you will still destroy
what hd is this
:< I stopped playing demo now...
Everyone that thinks that this nerf didn't completely destroy demo and ruin every aspect of comp tf2 has no idea what they're talking about.
Epic
I feel they'll change it to something like 1 second, 2 is just absurd.
That I would like. As a Scout main it was a pain in the ass to just get sticky blasted to bits by even low-skilled demos. Atleast one second still makes it viable, but not enough to use it as a primary.
shadow50011 If you can play scout well you'll just wreck them if they only use stickies...
I can play Scout well, but when they burst all around you and can't even get close, retreat, or jump.... well. Sometimes I would encounter multiple demomen all doing the same thing. Sometimes not even double jumping in different directions, backpedaling, feinting, worked. any demoman spamming stickies could deny a scout getting near enough to do anything before being forced to back off or die.
shadow50011 or alternatively you just pistol them...
Bjosx I use Mad Milk.
No one better at demo, can't deny that shit. Well you can try, but you're wrong.
Kaidus, I used to do this but I quit tf2 and forgot how to, how do you make it so the damage you do stacks like as in if you do -100 and -100 it will say -200. If you do get what I mean.
they added option for that in advance setting
anurodh tripathi ty
+anurodh tripathi Yes but it's not long enough
Wow I mean maybe something besides demo could be considered for 6's? NO WAY!!! There are more than 4 classes. People with skill will still be useful demos. There was a reason only 1 demo was aloud. but now maybe we can have 2?
this is epic
God tier