All we have is infinite."now" The first time experienced a shift in time experienced from a non ego sight ...I felt more connected to everything around me and even felt my body weight was like a space suit I could just step out off lol it was radically new for me.
Dear K Foundation, deep gratitude to you and to all who preserved all these talks for the rest of us to hear for free. No need to pay thousands of dollars to join various Guru's enlightening and self- healing programs. Thank you!!!!
With all respect, as far as i understand, this was not a speech at all. In fact, the speaker say it in the very begining to avoid this confusion. We are condition to be lecture by one autority, wich doesnt have any value at all, because each one of us needs to be a light to himself, in order to change the consciousness of mankind.
If you can listen to him properly, as he himself advises you, then instantly you will realize what he says and instantly you will be able to do it. Even most difficult ones. I tried it and suprized.
"Don't depend on anyone, no teacher can teach, no book, no spiritual organizations; one has to learn all this by oneself. And there the mind will discover incredible things No fragmentation. To such a mind there is no time, living becomes a different meaning. Listening to a pattern of thought, like, and dislike prevents this. Powerful observation.
Hey all of you it’s fifty years ago this man had the courage to say it the right way not only everything was here to get to us… but it’s also sharp bright not a podcast you skip to another please please listen the time has already come 😞
I am about to go out into the woods for a week, and this was exactly what I need to do when I am there, and then maybe it will sink in enough that I will be able to do it even in the city.
Cities are a terrible place to be. Rural America is where its at. Life is slow and most problems you find in big cities, just don't exsist here. I hope you find/found your peace whereever you decide to be. 😁✌
if youre to say this man is the most amazing it means his teachings or observations have basically fallen unto deaf ears. The reason he is one of many amazing men is he has the ability to articulate conversation which is directed towards bringing about awareness of how what we experience as individuals and the peril which falls between us, is in fact something every human shares in common.
"the content makes up the consciousness". this is a really important point. only after one has emptied the contents of their consciousness can one get past the barrier of consciousness to pure awareness. we sense that awareness is just behind consciousness but it's obscured by the consciousness which only exists to hold it's own contents. this is real -- some may call it the void or emptiness, some may call it god, some may call it enlightenment or stillness or being outside of space/time but all fingers are pointing at the same moon. good luck everyone.
K says, "Don't try to understand the speaker, understand yourself! Look at yourself and be light to yourself!" Ignorance is the darkness in my mind. Dispel the darkness by understanding myself. Have dialogues with myself, everyday. (K's A Dialogue with Oneself at the first public talk, Santa Monica, 1945)
dont believe 'true' to never have a bias and influence of thinking. trick is to know my biases and then respond to that biases without harm to another. knowing biases will tell me how i am judging or making false discrimination against anther. we all have our biases, no matter what we tell ourselves.
Things have improved since then: Madness is so much stronger nowadays! More growth in that domain is to be expected! Even the rich got much much more rich, what a success!
This man destroys his very consistent point of “ can we change “ by his pointed explanations of how we are all conditioned and what an insurmountable effort it would be to change. Every life that comes out if this world would have to change in their lifetime how hard is that if not impossible. Every life every teenager has to change good luck with that. We can better ourselves up to a point but there will always be a motive. The world is the way it is suppose to he can we change ? he always asks. we can hope.... but its all words. Tame your ego and live the best you can.,
Just watch. Through watching you will see the ME with all its ugly content. And instantly you will empty all of the content of your mind. Because you will see how ugly, bad this content is and it is innumarable. It was gathered during thousands years. The only way is to empty it completely.
@Jake ... - Powerful realization of your statement... this is exactly the conversation I need to listen to... "there is no separation from the inner & the outer... they are both one movement... the outer is a representation of the inner..." so True
The point isn't to "tame" your ego, it's to get rid of it completely. Taming is just another form of suppression and suppression is just another form of ignorance. To say that something is impossible, is just another way of giving yourself permission to continue being ignorant because it's easier than facing yourself. It's a lifelong commitment but not in the sense of ideals or morality because, again, that's just you putting an image to the action. His deep commitment comes from a place of love, he loves this life and everything/everyone in it, regardless of what he may think of them. He treats everything and everyone with such care in every act of daily life, in his words, in the way he lives life because he loves deeply. That's where his commitment comes from and that is exactly what love is. When you truly learn to love, you'll see that, that's all there is in life and that's when it really hits you. I'm not saying this to try to argue or anything, I just wanted to share what I've found for myself.
Love his classes. Agree no time only 'in time', but that is much later, another time . Therefore agree there is no such thing as 'time'. Perhaps existence is in 'place'?
I was there live, in the sm auditorium for his daily talks of the week. He walked out of each of his talks as people began to feel uncomfortable, disruptive. He certainly wasn’t there to tell them what they wanted to hear.
JK reminds me of this of what the Buddha said: The Buddha: Make yourself the Light; Make the Dharma your Light….. The question is are we willing to listen and next are willing to hear. Thank you so much for posting this, and may we all be able to listen and hear what is truly being shared with us. 🙏
no other voice can talk better than j.krishnamurti on complex topics like WHAT IS...ENERGY...MEDITATION...TIME...THOUGHT....INTELLIGENCE...just listening to you SIR changes human beings.
Of course someone from Santa Monica would ask 'what is the speaker feeling now.' As much as Krishnamurti head me to question my ability to be honest and live without delusions, the content here shows me how deluded, ignorant and mean people indeed are no matter what is at stake. I am almost ill from the indignation and indignity of the questions and behaviors coming from this audience.
To respond with such a statement also implies that you weren't serious about this either. Rather you seek entertainment in the form of commenting and seeking a reply. Which is what I'm doing right no too. Welp.
The self is an illusion. To acknowledge the throwness of being is to realise how little control we had this whole time. As the self diminishes into oblivion, the value of novelty and uncertainty by nature follows. These 2 values alone allow you to see things for the infinitesimally limited scope that we have and welcome new energy into our soul. This is why psychedelics can get you half the way and allow you to experience a strong albeit temporary ego death, a jump start if you wil, but without the perennial understanding and discipline accompanying these realisations one can end up deluded without a direction. Best of luck to all on this journey xo.
He speaks like an expert on his subject and the audience is below him in knowledge. He speaks out of division and then says we are exploring it together
He is trying to show us the mirror in which we can look and observe together with him. It ll do good if you understand him rather than judging him i guess.
What it means to be free from the me: If you suddenly discover something beautiful, something like a mountain, a flower, a bird, a butterfly - there are so many beautiful things in this world - there is, for a moment, that sensation of awe, when that thing completely absorbs you. In that moment you don't feel anything about yourself, that is, a total dissolution of the me. I wish you that this moment lasts forever. If you never experienced a sensation of awe, you may try a moment of pure love. If you had neither a sensation of awe nor a moment of pure love, you should continue to listen to J.K.
The human being is not in this world to become a slave of policy’s or possessions. But rather to search for a free way of life , A life by which a man becomes wealthy by needing less rather than by possessing more. Somewhere in the mystery of our experience we’ve lost the direct contact with life and the real purpose for which we were created. Mph
@@terrapinalive6192 thats what sadh guru always says. Isnt it? Its the other way around. The observed is the same as the observer. Because he is always observing itself. And when you are observing your problems you are observing human problems not your personal problems.
He wants people to understand what a head game it is to think we're going to learn how to be sensitive or whatever in the future. We either are or we are not. Now. Observing ourselves. People laughing are "enjoying a show" and are not observing their own processes.
Personally I'd enjoy just sitting with you or him on a porch overlooking a redwood forest. Eat food and just sit. We have his talks not him. I laugh, sometimes not.
all this indian people understand very easily what he is talking but its difficult to others countries we learn this type stuff every day in life from elderly parents but USA for them its difficult
It is not hard at all. You listen to him wrongly. Through your ME, your mind. When you hear something, you immediately try to compare it with what you know already, according to your likes or dislikes etc. What he says bounces from the imregnable wall of your mind, self, me.
It is not differs from country to country. It depends on the listeners today's state of consciousness. Whose desire to understand is so intense he will understand one day in this life.
🎯Precisely. And, ironically, the OP doesn’t “get” K’s message either, not with that separatist (nationalist/tribal/groupie) thinking (which K often spoke about as being a serious hindrance to realizing who one truly is and definitely keeps one from being able to love anyone, including themselves).
Friend this Indian lack honesty and imitative people pretentious one I met many many in krishnamurti circle ,pure cheap Nth hand copy of krishnamurti .They are liars blatant conman kind they want power ,living relative lives .Repeat his words not what they are like parrot they conditioned them. Through his dialogues gather knowledge and impress other outclass others .Fight like kid repeat same kid kind stuff .very crude people .
For those who want a radical change: The me is the hindrance. Dissolve the me. Get rid of your identifications. Be free of images. See what is. No more division, no more conflict.
He talks so slowly and the ideas take forever to be communicated. It must have been a different era when this was considered a profound way to influence
Great Krishnaji. But it is a pity he didn't bring out a personal anecdote - it is a limitation on his part, that he did not ultimately open up personally, -about what brings or has brought him joy or 'Beauty' if he insists on that! He always uses the excuse that 'the speaker is not important'. Indeed no, but maybe we would lie to know a little of what we don't know about him!
What for? Why does it matter? What help does it do? What would that answer change? Why is it that important? I never understood the eager for the answer to those questions, and I think that He didn't understand them either, he even insist that it is not important.
I sat at night on the lake behind my house in the wee hours, and really listened. And when I understood my mouth hung open. Now is different, forever.
Welcome back
You must not procrastinate to ascend beyond time and space.
All we have is infinite."now"
The first time experienced a shift in time experienced from a non ego sight ...I felt more connected to everything around me and even felt my body weight was like a space suit I could just step out off lol it was radically new for me.
@@winniethuo9736 Thank You. 💐
Absolutely Beautiful.💓🙏💞
What a wonderful experience! Thank you for sharing! P.S. I like how you put it. .."Now is different, forever."
Dear K Foundation, deep gratitude to you and to all who preserved all these talks for the rest of us to hear for free.
No need to pay thousands of dollars to join various Guru's enlightening and self- healing programs. Thank you!!!!
One of J. Krishnamurti's most profoundly impactful talks ever. Thanks very much to all concerned.
Yes but the speaKer doen't matter at all!
@@bartroberts3634 haha..
Wow... I am always amazed with his energy.❣️
One of the best speeches of JK..living with it is really matters.
With all respect, as far as i understand, this was not a speech at all. In fact, the speaker say it in the very begining to avoid this confusion. We are condition to be lecture by one autority, wich doesnt have any value at all, because each one of us needs to be a light to himself, in order to change the consciousness of mankind.
He was around 77 years old at that time. Such power.
And he is fiery for this one too.
Fiery and dignified,
I'm 77, too.
If you can listen to him properly, as he himself advises you, then instantly you will realize what he says and instantly you will be able to do it. Even most difficult ones. I tried it and suprized.
"Don't depend on anyone, no teacher can teach, no book, no spiritual organizations; one has to learn all this by oneself. And there the mind will discover incredible things No fragmentation. To such a mind there is no time, living becomes a different meaning. Listening to a pattern of thought, like, and dislike prevents this. Powerful observation.
Hey all of you it’s fifty years ago this man had the courage to say it the right way not only everything was here to get to us… but it’s also sharp bright not a podcast you skip to another please please listen the time has already come 😞
💯💯💯👋🏾
With love, thank you~! 💓💞
thanks for all the effort to share this!
Thankyou for the efforts to share and maintain the channel ✨❤️
The real side of RUclips.
Thank you so much for posting!
I am about to go out into the woods for a week, and this was exactly what I need to do when I am there, and then maybe it will sink in enough that I will be able to do it even in the city.
Cities are a terrible place to be. Rural America is where its at. Life is slow and most problems you find in big cities, just don't exsist here. I hope you find/found your peace whereever you decide to be. 😁✌
I am afraid you missed the whole point of what JK said...
You don't need to go to woods to find out ______
@@eldiabloblanco3167 very judgmental
@@thiswasme5452 he doesn't say in the comment that anything is "necessary," so perhaps you are the one who's missed the whole point, of the comment?
This man is a genius 👍🏽
Agreed
not genious THE TRUTH itself.
That and more.
The genius is within you.
Thank you for posting it
The most amazing man that ever lived
Right!
Why don’t more people understand this?
BENDICION
I totally agree . Insight agreement ...
if youre to say this man is the most amazing it means his teachings or observations have basically fallen unto deaf ears. The reason he is one of many amazing men is he has the ability to articulate conversation which is directed towards bringing about awareness of how what we experience as individuals and the peril which falls between us, is in fact something every human shares in common.
So are you.
"the content makes up the consciousness". this is a really important point. only after one has emptied the contents of their consciousness can one get past the barrier of consciousness to pure awareness. we sense that awareness is just behind consciousness but it's obscured by the consciousness which only exists to hold it's own contents. this is real -- some may call it the void or emptiness, some may call it god, some may call it enlightenment or stillness or being outside of space/time but all fingers are pointing at the same moon. good luck everyone.
Thank you, well said.
Luck?
K says, "Don't try to understand the speaker, understand yourself! Look at yourself and be light to yourself!"
Ignorance is the darkness in my mind. Dispel the darkness by understanding myself. Have dialogues with myself, everyday. (K's A Dialogue with Oneself at the first public talk, Santa Monica, 1945)
Thank you!!
I am free of all other thinkers! I am thinking for myself!
dont believe 'true' to never have a bias and influence of thinking. trick is to know my biases and then respond to that biases without harm to another. knowing biases will tell me how i am judging or making false discrimination against anther. we all have our biases, no matter what we tell ourselves.
🙏🏻 thank you 💕
I am very thankful for your comments 🙏
I really enjoyed the points on self conditioning. It made me think about seagulls on the beach and how the concept aligns with their typical behavior.
Thank my friend for being a real techer
Soo much improvement with observation thanks
The Friend of Humanity
Thank you!!!
Things have improved since then: Madness is so much stronger nowadays! More growth in that domain is to be expected! Even the rich got much much more rich, what a success!
Oh, I love it!!!
This man destroys his very consistent point of “ can we change “ by his pointed
explanations of how we are all conditioned and what an insurmountable
effort it would be to change.
Every life that comes out if this world would have to change in their lifetime
how hard is that if not impossible.
Every life every teenager has to change
good luck with that.
We can better ourselves up to a point but there will always be a motive.
The world is the way it is suppose to he
can we change ? he always asks.
we can hope.... but its all words.
Tame your ego and live the best you can.,
Yes. Live, do, and be the best you can.
Lose yourself, find yourself. Over and over.
Just watch. Through watching you will see the ME with all its ugly content. And instantly you will empty all of the content of your mind. Because you will see how ugly, bad this content is and it is innumarable. It was gathered during thousands years. The only way is to empty it completely.
@Jake ... - Powerful realization of your statement... this is exactly the conversation I need to listen to... "there is no separation from the inner & the outer... they are both one movement... the outer is a representation of the inner..." so True
The point isn't to "tame" your ego, it's to get rid of it completely. Taming is just another form of suppression and suppression is just another form of ignorance. To say that something is impossible, is just another way of giving yourself permission to continue being ignorant because it's easier than facing yourself. It's a lifelong commitment but not in the sense of ideals or morality because, again, that's just you putting an image to the action. His deep commitment comes from a place of love, he loves this life and everything/everyone in it, regardless of what he may think of them. He treats everything and everyone with such care in every act of daily life, in his words, in the way he lives life because he loves deeply. That's where his commitment comes from and that is exactly what love is. When you truly learn to love, you'll see that, that's all there is in life and that's when it really hits you. I'm not saying this to try to argue or anything, I just wanted to share what I've found for myself.
Can the mind look at this me without any distortion. Without any image, conclusion, formula. That is meditation.
Total meditation is when you dont have to choose
Love his classes. Agree no time only 'in time', but that is much later, another time . Therefore agree there is no such thing as 'time'. Perhaps existence is in 'place'?
I was there live, in the sm auditorium for his daily talks of the week. He walked out of each of his talks as people began to feel uncomfortable, disruptive. He certainly wasn’t there to tell them what they wanted to hear.
Truth!
JK reminds me of this of what the Buddha said:
The Buddha:
Make yourself the Light; Make the Dharma your Light…..
The question is are we willing to listen and next are willing to hear.
Thank you so much for posting this, and may we all be able to listen and hear what is truly being shared with us.
🙏
The Buddha itself. Look at him.
This is what before Budha had also been told.
🙏thanks JK inspirational speach
Can't stop smiling...
Thanks .
It keeps me sane during the Covid-19 time.
Great discussion about joy and happiness
no other voice can talk better than j.krishnamurti on complex topics like WHAT IS...ENERGY...MEDITATION...TIME...THOUGHT....INTELLIGENCE...just listening to you SIR changes human beings.
I am my own authority and I will remain 100% pure human and emotionally intelligent!
don't want to become anything, just keep observing
I think this is one of the most significant talks K has given.
listening from the ukwales 2022❤️
Of course someone from Santa Monica would ask 'what is the speaker feeling now.' As much as Krishnamurti head me to question my ability to be honest and live without delusions, the content here shows me how deluded, ignorant and mean people indeed are no matter what is at stake. I am almost ill from the indignation and indignity of the questions and behaviors coming from this audience.
I'm embarrassed for them. Because they seem incapable of shame. J answered impressively.
Wow!
Hello from the future to you, sir
The audience weren't serious at all. They made it into a form of entertainment.
To respond with such a statement also implies that you weren't serious about this either. Rather you seek entertainment in the form of commenting and seeking a reply. Which is what I'm doing right no too. Welp.
@@gnome3d750 😅
It’s easy to judge…I’m sure there were some serious aspirants there.
@@gnome3d750 INception
@@gnome3d750 And here we all are, reading what you wrote and reacting to your words.
Love it.
The self is an illusion. To acknowledge the throwness of being is to realise how little control we had this whole time. As the self diminishes into oblivion, the value of novelty and uncertainty by nature follows. These 2 values alone allow you to see things for the infinitesimally limited scope that we have and welcome new energy into our soul. This is why psychedelics can get you half the way and allow you to experience a strong albeit temporary ego death, a jump start if you wil, but without the perennial understanding and discipline accompanying these realisations one can end up deluded without a direction. Best of luck to all on this journey xo.
There are 4 part of this? I think would be nice if we can find the other parts in the description of the video, thanks a lot.
He speaks like an expert on his subject and the audience is below him in knowledge. He speaks out of division and then says we are exploring it together
😂
He is trying to show us the mirror in which we can look and observe together with him.
It ll do good if you understand him rather than judging him i guess.
Thank you!
I love you all
Genius.
What it means to be free from the me: If you suddenly discover something beautiful, something like a mountain, a flower, a bird, a butterfly - there are so many beautiful things in this world - there is, for a moment, that sensation of awe, when that thing completely absorbs you. In that moment you don't feel anything about yourself, that is, a total dissolution of the me. I wish you that this moment lasts forever.
If you never experienced a sensation of awe, you may try a moment of pure love.
If you had neither a sensation of awe nor a moment of pure love, you should continue to listen to J.K.
if you really listen to him. the way you think about everything will be changed.
This is great too
It will be highly appreciated, if time stamps can be incorporated.
The human being is not in this world to become a slave of policy’s or possessions.
But rather to search for a free way of life , A life by which a man becomes wealthy by needing less rather than by possessing more.
Somewhere in the mystery of our experience we’ve lost the direct contact with life and the real purpose for which we were created.
Mph
The observer is the observer - the day I understand that “actually” I stopped going to church
Dan The Man...The observer is the observed..isn't it?
I become the anger? I become the apple? It makes no sense, isnt that just identification with the observed?
@@kevzf no i
@@terrapinalive6192 no... there is no object.
@@terrapinalive6192 thats what sadh guru always says. Isnt it? Its the other way around. The observed is the same as the observer. Because he is always observing itself. And when you are observing your problems you are observing human problems not your personal problems.
If one can understand this, then you can easily do medition.
Love from penda
🙏
It's for you to find out what your are. Then you'll be a light to yourself. Then we'll have a relationship together [sic]. (around 1:43)
The way the light shines & bounces on his forehead: looks like his third eye...(did i just make an interpretation?....)
haha ..yup :D♥️
🙏🕯
lovely man, I listen deeply to JK and have applied much, but will never understand why he is against laughter.
He wants people to understand what a head game it is to think we're going to learn how to be sensitive or whatever in the future. We either are or we are not. Now. Observing ourselves. People laughing are "enjoying a show" and are not observing their own processes.
Laughter is an escape. But it does have its place in living.
If he told a joke whilst giving a talk we'd either laugh or not. Everything must be done.
Personally I'd enjoy just sitting with you or him on a porch overlooking a redwood forest. Eat food and just sit. We have his talks not him. I laugh, sometimes not.
He was never against laughing. When he speaks something serious, he is serious, and when he speaks something laughable, he laughs.
Think about that!💚🧡💚🧡💚
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
BENDICION
We have all been conditioned to forget…
1:13:24💥♻️🌱❤️✅🏆🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🪡🛜
Be a light to yourself.
💓
A river of self knowledge
Genuine listening happens without the agency a of a thinking mind. No intermediary just immediacy.
Some 239 people are courageous enough!
I just made it 248.
⭕️👀😌Nature is revealing itself with the help of this Brain “K”❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@1:41:00 the rise of division with the outburst. As @principe ci has said listen closely to the master. Unity and Light
all this indian people understand very easily what he is talking but its difficult to others countries we learn this type stuff every day in life from elderly parents but USA for them its difficult
For sure but for italians here its hard too not only Usa
It is not hard at all. You listen to him wrongly. Through your ME, your mind. When you hear something, you immediately try to compare it with what you know already, according to your likes or dislikes etc. What he says bounces from the imregnable wall of your mind, self, me.
It is not differs from country to country. It depends on the listeners today's state of consciousness. Whose desire to understand is so intense he will understand one day in this life.
🎯Precisely. And, ironically, the OP doesn’t “get” K’s message either, not with that separatist (nationalist/tribal/groupie) thinking (which K often spoke about as being a serious hindrance to realizing who one truly is and definitely keeps one from being able to love anyone, including themselves).
Friend this Indian lack honesty and imitative people pretentious one I met many many in krishnamurti circle ,pure cheap Nth hand copy of krishnamurti .They are liars blatant conman kind they want power ,living relative lives .Repeat his words not what they are like parrot they conditioned them. Through his dialogues gather knowledge and impress other outclass others .Fight like kid repeat same kid kind stuff .very crude people .
For those who want a radical change: The me is the hindrance. Dissolve the me. Get rid of your identifications. Be free of images. See what is. No more division, no more conflict.
The crowd was so dumb back then...unfortunately this hasn't change at all in 2021 lol
Completely captivating.
Updated transcript..
Jk- without the attributes, is there the Me without action? Of course not. ...
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Almost like can only speak nothing but the absolute truth
At 49:50 😀
I’m understanding his spirirt
This audience...They all are interested in question - but not the answer! Exactly what JK is trying to make people aware of.
"If you understand yourself completely, you understand the speaker" K says...
"Only through *me* you can reach to the Father."...Jesus says
1:16:00
Timeless medicine
He talks so slowly and the ideas take forever to be communicated. It must have been a different era when this was considered a profound way to influence
40:00
31:29
Indeed. A title K would have surely shunned. But we should bestow, nonetheless.
37:45
Used introspection. Found 42
Great Krishnaji.
But it is a pity he didn't bring out a personal anecdote - it is a limitation on his part, that he did not ultimately open up personally, -about what brings or has brought him joy or 'Beauty' if he insists on that! He always uses the excuse that 'the speaker is not important'. Indeed no, but maybe we would lie to know a little of what we don't know about him!
What for? Why does it matter? What help does it do? What would that answer change? Why is it that important? I never understood the eager for the answer to those questions, and I think that He didn't understand them either, he even insist that it is not important.
ironic comment considering he was constantly preaching about not falling for the "cult of personality" . . .