YouTube's Fastest Tesla Turbine! 431 MPH Periphery Speed!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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Quote from Nikola Tesla's British Patent 179,043 - Improved Process of and Apparatus for Production of High Vacua, Second Paragraph
"In the development of power by thermodynamic prime movers, as steam engines and turbines, a low back pressure is essential to good economy, the performance of the machine being increased from fifty to one hundred per cent, by reducing the absolute pressure in the exhaust space from fifteen to about one pound per square inch."
As far as we know, no one has built Nikola Tesla’s British Patent 179,043 - Improved Process of and Apparatus for Production of High Vacua, which is the key to reaching 100% efficiency. In the first paragraph of the patent he states, "In the development of power by thermodynamic prime movers, as steam engines and turbines, a low back pressure is essential to good economy, the performance of the machine being increased from fifty to one hundred per cent, by reducing the absolute pressure in the exhaust space from fifteen to about one pound per square inch. " - Nikola Tesla
In order to reach maximum efficiency with any turbine, piston, or jet engine, you must extract the maximum amount of heat energy from the system possible, and that means everything needs to run cool. Nearly all energy loss in today’s machinery exists in the form of heat. Others include unwanted mechanical and electrical vibrations that work against the proper function of the system, but are insignificant when compared to the energy lost in the form of heat and unburnt fuel. We have taken care of these issues with the help of Nikola Tesla.
The greatest forms of heat energy loss include friction from the many thousands of moving parts in the engine. We have reduced all moving parts in the engine to one.
Normally heat is viewed as a bad thing. This is no longer perceived as true.
Only when you add British Patent 179,043 - Improved Process of and Apparatus for Production of High Vacua to TESLA PATENT 1,061,206 TURBINE are you able to extract enough heat from the gasses under pressure to reach his 100% efficiency mark and this has never been done before until now. See video • Extremely Efficient Te...
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nikola tesla really was an amazing man
yeah he was!
Wow 431 mph! Amazing.
Great build and awesome to see Telsa's machines achieving physicality. I think the addition of the spoked spacers moght be impeding your top speed. The whole premise of the design is the faster it goes...the longer the longitudinal vortexes stretch out...giving more impact on the blade faces as the radial outward forces hold the air stream into a tigher space. The spokes stop the spiralling and force the gas into the exhaust prematurely. Also think about staggering each plate so that it creates a spiral as you look down through the stack (referring to the exhaust holes in the plates). It can be so arranged that it also becomes an impeller and either helps hold the gasses in or pump them out depending on which device (turbine or pump) you are building.
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Please see our new videos, we have made so much progress!
In terms of diameter, is there a reason for choosing a small turbine and a big pump rather than a big turbine and a small pump? What effect does it have if you invert it?
Milling tool: "Hey, watch me use the force on this human"
Band saw: "Whoa"
Awesome work, try to find more use cases for such a creation.
Big Tesla Turbine fan here.
Will do!
@@iEnergySupply May be many tiny turbines like this in parallel are more efficient than a big one.
@@MarioAbbruscato In the future I would love to test that out, I have had it in my mind for a while. Right now I am working on getting the model finished for the aluminum combustion prototype. I already have the Tesla valves required. I also wan't to have a model large enough for practical power.
@@nikola.tesla.r.and.d.centre Air bearings, awesome idea ! Magnetic bearings too. Small disks are faster , so centrifugal force of fluid has an important rule. So the space between disks and fluid 's viscosity.
Great stuff!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great work!
More than just A engine?
The future ! Welcome.
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Yeah!
thanks for the video.
my pleasure.
That sound sooooo cool
Yeah! Wait till you hear 150000 rpm
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Great JOB!
great stuff guys
Has one of these ever been tested with steam and a generator? If not why not? The speed is much too high for a typical generator but there are other options. Of course I’m used to working with turbines and generators the size of large trucks.
Testing soon! I did test one on a criophorous system. See latest videos.
how come no where that I have looked is someone thinking "hey, you know what creates a lot of compression? combustion 🤔"
Yeah that's in our plans, have you seen the pulse jet we plan on hooking up to the aluminum turbine?
@@iEnergySupply I did watch that. but it's...wrong? I don't like that word. why not just combust the fuel at the intake port? just use a carburetor to regulate air and fuel, make a little bell housing at the intake to direct the pressure.
@@iEnergySupply you could use two turbines, one compressing the air and fuel into a combustion chamber, the second being powered by the combustion. the compression turbine can even be spun by the combustion turbine; maybe with some kind of unidirectional gear (like the freewheel sprocket on a bike), that way the compression turbine can spin on its own, say with a starter motor, then it can be run from the combustion turbine. it should be capable of self sustaining motion, with whatever fuel you can get to combust effectively.
@@graphixkillzzz this is similar to what we were going to do, instead of using the air compressor I wanted to use a Tesla compressor, this would work flawlessly I believe
@@graphixkillzzz that's what I'm thinking. Can't someone just make a turbocharger for a car? Come one
Sir! I have been following your work, it’s amazing the amount of time and money you spend on this Nikolas invention! I have a doubt, you use star shaped spacers between discs, I think will they interfere with the circles of the air flow and reduce the efficiency? I also found that you answer every comment that is really nice sir!
After researching the ideal design, I found this patent, it's the newer design Nikola Tesla came up with that seems to work the best. It's mostly due to the rigidity of the rotor that allows for us to accomplish extremely high RPM. Please see this patent for a clear description from Nikola tesla. Please let me know what you think about the patent.
teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/british-patent-186082-improvements-construction-steam-and-gas-turbines
@@iEnergySupply I have read that patent, I understood that there are few construction difficulties in this model. It uses star shaped spacers and also studs.
1) I would like to know sir, do you really think this turbine will work?
2) Did you try converting such high rpm to a low rpm but high torque rotations? 3) I came to know that this turbine is efficient only at high rpms, but why so?
4) I saw you using plexi glass, how about using carbon fiber?
5) To reduce vibrations at high rpm, how about we run two turbines in opposite rotation?
6) Can this turbine be used to power a car? Compressed air/fluid>Turbine>clutch>gearbox>wheels. Here we are directly using the turbines mechanical energy to wheels.
Your work interests me, I will be following!
@@gajulagopinath5471 Thank you! The key here is to have a generator that works with high speed. Once you have that, you can product the high torque with a motor powered by the generator. Carbon fiber is what our rotor is made of, please see our latest videos. Tesla said not to let the star washers protrude past 1/2 the working area of the disks. The tesla turbine is absolutely practical.
Is it really a two stage turbine? Seems more like dual turbines in series.
its one turbine two pumps on same shaft. Turbine in middle pump on ends.
I'd like to construct one for myself, how do I get the CAD files and instructions? I'm very interested in the cold steam workings too.
I just don't understand your reasoning in the video description. As stated, the exhaust of an turbine should expand into a vacuum for max efficiency. However your turbine just expands into atmospheric pressure. The turbine should not create a lower pressure than in it's exhaust, otherwise you effectively have a vacuum pump which takes energy. Normally in big power plants this is done by cooling the steam from the turbine's exhaust, causing it to condense into liquid water which is much denser than the steam (Rankine cycle). Therefore it is possible to create a pretty good vacuum, somewhere around 0.06 bar. Still the most efficient cycles (not counting jet engines and rocket engines) are around 42% efficient. 100% thermodynamic efficiency is not even practically possible. You would need a perfect Carnot cycle system (which is only theoretical) where the max temperature is infinite and the lowest temperature is absolute zero. And of course you will never really get a 0K temperature heatsink etc etc.
Also, what does the second stage actually do? If I see it correctly the air enters in the center and basically gets 'flung' out, which takes power. Basically a vacuum pump driven by the turbine?
Not trying to be super negative, and would encourage you to keep experimenting to make an as efficient as possible tesla turbine.
Have you seen the latest system running in a vacuum yet?
ruclips.net/video/JvRCB_HhseY/видео.html
when we run the turbine in a vacuum it's interesting that when we turn off the warm side of the system the low pressure boiler, the turbine continues to rotate because if it's centrifugal force for over 15 minutes from 20k RPM to 0 indicating an extremely low friction environment, it's no surprise because it's in vacuum. Outside of the vacuum it will only rotate for around 30 seconds from 20000 rpm to 0.
My biggest reason for stage two was because of what Tesla said about his British Patent 179,043 - Improved Process of and Apparatus for Production of High Vacua.
In the first paragraph the man says.
"In the development of power by thermo-dynamic primemovers, as steam engines and turbines, a low back pressure is essential to good economy, the performance of the machine being increased from fifty to one hundred per cent. by reducing the absolute pressure in the exhaust space from fifteen to about one pound per square inch."
So far we are experiencing exactly what he describes here, by reducing the back pressure in the turbine. The two stage turbine did indeed lower the back pressure and the power the turbine was able to generate at identical pressures and volumes of pressure have reflected his statement to be true.
With all the experiments I have done, I have never found something from nikola tesla to be false.
Thank you for your good comment, I would invite you to challenge his point of view.
Interesting! I did not see that video before.
I'm doing some internet research to improve my heating system. The situation now is that the workshop has a wood burning stove, and the house has a gas fired central heating installation. Step one would be to make a big warm water storage tank in or outside the workshop that will be heated by an efficient wood burner. That would mean I can just fire it up for a few hours and it could possibly heat the workshop for days and maybe tie it in to the house central heating to make the gas bills go to 0. Then next step would be to make a wood fired steam boiler and run a steam engine or even a steam turbine with it. It could be a tesla turbine so that's why i'm investigating the topic. The the condenser would actually use the water from the warm water storage tank for cooling the steam from the turbinr exhaust, so the heat is not wasted, but instead used to heat the building. Also I could use some solar collectors so I would have hot water in the summer and not have to fire the system for months.
Tl;dr
I plan to do something simmilar with a steam boiler, turbine and condenser to co-generate heath and electricity.
@@sjorsschoenmakers3629 Now you got the idea!
Although in the winter time you might want to still have a cold condenser. With a cold condenser your efficiency goes up exponentially. You wouldn't be wasting heat. Also here is an interesting point, the higher the efficiency, the less you actually heat up your condenser tank. The turbine actually cools down the hot water after it condenses. Have you seen our water vapor to ice video yet? Here is a link.
ruclips.net/video/c5NzHvGxTss/видео.html
Awesome
Thanks :)
Nice video . However not one tesla turbine video I've seen yet measures torque output nor any real time operational load with full test parameters . All we see is speed recordings . I wonder about pump cavitation , non mechanical input drive medium erosion etc.
Here is what you are looking for, More data on the way. As we get more sophisticated measuring equipment the testing will be more complete. ruclips.net/video/MkGAKqG2qvU/видео.html
What will happen if those are stacked together?
extremely high rpms maybe? could it achieve the efficiency or too strong?
I don't think the disks would be able to withstand the high rpm. They would buckle or break under the centrifical pressure.
How does it compare to a normal turbine with the same input energy
so far the biggest difference is air consumption. The dual stage takes way less air to run when it gets up to speed. We will be showing the numbers soon.
Where does the vacuum measure you? You have 3 tesla turbines on the same axis, the first receives compressed air from the outside of the discs towards the center, the turbine in the middle of the axis recovered by the center towards the outside and the last indoor outside turbine is that it? So where is the vacuum formed?
the air pathway spirals to the center of the rotor in the turbine. After spiraling to the center of the turbine, the air exhausts through to the pumps. There is a pump on each side of the turbine to draw the exhaust from the turbine at a much greater rate then would normally be, lowering the back pressure and creating vacuum for the turbine it'self. It's a little confusing, but I will be explaining more in detail in the future.
OK it's clear enough, thank you. Are you thinking of trying with steam? I went to see on your site I thought the turbine was for sale, you do not sell a complete turbine? And how much does it cost to manufacture the turbine?
@@spinozadaude2388 We will have turbine's for sale soon, just finishing up a couple tests here. We want to sell plastic models for now to help further our research and development. We really want to use steam and in-fact we have been using cold steam lately. You should see our cold steam videos.
ruclips.net/video/ufCAeeOEbUg/видео.html
I did not see it upon my first glance at the comments. What PSI/CFM pressure rates are you running this at? Have you tried the generator under load?
Yeah I powered a impeller from a vacuum cleaner to full speed, it was a 1200 watt impeller. We used about 125 lbs of pressure with a 1/32"x.5" nozzle.
So yall dont use any grease or moly in the contact points inside?
Nope, but we may in the future.
How about putting a load on that thing to really see how much force that boundary layer drag is generating?
Tesla turbines work.
The only problem is that for large-scale versions (power plants) no material known to mankind is strong enough to withstand the centrifugal force of such a turbine.
A Tesla power plant turbine would have a rotation speed between Mach 10 and 15 at its outer end at 50,000 revolutions per minute.
The turbine could also run more slowly, but this worsens the efficiency (the lower the rotational speed, the worse the efficiency of the Tesla turbine).
However, Tesla turbines have been used in other areas for some time.
The mechanism also works in reverse, which means that the turbines can be used as pumps.
i would like to connect that output to a 36V battery bank, what pressure would i need to set the regulator/air supply to achieve this. How many watts does the coil deliver
depends on the size of the turbine and the inlet size and the rpm it's operating at. More load testing on the way.
Interesting, been gone for a while, just wondering about input pressure and torque at max rpm. I have a build ,however it uses high pressure steam, just trying to figure out hp. Thanks for the vid!!!
you should be easily able to up to 120krpm, for r=10cm and r2=20cm you get 1200m/s rim speed (mach 3, not mach 0.5) and 2400m/s (mach 6) output
I got 150000 rpm with my latest turbine mach 1.7
@@iEnergySupply r=5cm? btw, outer rim, not central axis, bearings, works
Are those disks glued to the shaft ?
What would happen if you ran water though it?
where is the ebay link to buy it ?
Our latest models are nearly for sale.
what happen when u connect two tesla turbines to make one work as compressor
how does thickness of plates affect efficiency ?
Ideally you want as thin spacing as you can get without compromising the rigidity of the rotor's structure while in operation.
@@iEnergySupply have u tested how tesla turbine performs as compressor? i wounder if its possible to turbo charge a car using it
@@OGNISTYSZKQAJDII It's perfect for that, you just need to have small enough gaps between the disks and large enough exhaust holes.
@@iEnergySupply ok, thanks i will try
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I have a channel and would love to collab!
I can do an interview for you if you would like. Thanks for subscribing! Ill check out you're channel soon!
I wonder if you put a turbo impeler like the intake side as a load
The tesla pump is the same thing as the turbo impeller but way more effitient.
Do these work with steam?
absolutely, see my newest video.
@@iEnergySupply Also,can you string these together?
siick!
What's the diameter of your turbine's discs?
3" for the turbine, and there are two 4" pumps on both sides of the turbine outlets.
bigger or smaller 1, which is first stage & which is 2nd stage?
the larger stage is the second stage.
What is the PSI of the Air Pump?
125 psi.
just a thought but, what will be the relative speed between the air and the disc under optimal load?
I assume it is not 0 since that would mean 0 torque.
If that is so, then i think the spokes of the distancing plates should be slightly curved instead of perfectly radial to oppose the flow as little as possible.
especially since the relative radial speed will go up towards the center
When drawing optimal load, you want the speed of the rotor to be 1/2 the speed of the fluid/gas
Curved spokes would be preferable.
Whoopy fucking do! Not one Tesla turbine video shows it powering anything.So far the mini hydro plants do more.
Here is what you are looking for. ruclips.net/video/MkGAKqG2qvU/видео.html Also see our current progress with cold steam here: ruclips.net/video/SbVRXvrGJfI/видео.html
ah yes, the tesla turbine, the faster it runs, the more efficient it generates electricity from centripetal force, if you can get the disc up to 3 m in diameter spin at 50 000 rpm, it would be a scientific miracle machine
I've seen that video, and the 50000 rpm at 3m is a completely false prediction, you don't need disks that large traveling that fast. Ill soon be showing this.
Tesla centrifugal type turbines have been used in the past I seen them being scraped from demolished 1950's power stations they were very compact and only a few feet across able to drive generators up to 50 mw I am sure that they were industry standard.
Wow, very interesting!
Tesla turbines work.
The only problem is that for large-scale versions (power plants) no material known to mankind is strong enough to withstand the centrifugal force of such a turbine.
A Tesla power plant turbine would have a rotation speed between Mach 10 and 15 at its outer end at 50,000 revolutions per minute.
The turbine could also run more slowly, but this worsens the efficiency (the lower the rotational speed, the worse the efficiency of the Tesla turbine).
However, Tesla turbines have been used in other areas for some time.
The mechanism also works in reverse, which means that the turbines can be used as pumps.
The primary application for these turbines is in pumps, especially for liquids.
@@sylviarohge4204 I just wanted to note a big mistake in the video you saw! The video says the rotor must spin at a very high rpm, maybe 50,000 for a 6” turbine. The speed of a turbine is based on periphery speed not rpm. If a 6” turbine needs to spin 50,000 rpm to be efficient like the video says, that’s a periphery speed of 890.1 Miles per hour. If you want a 3 meter disk to achieve close to 891 miles per hour at the periphery, the rpm required is only 7,253. We have materials that can easily reach that speed.
@@iEnergySupply
For power plants the diameter would be about 3 meters.
In order to achieve comparable or better efficiencies than current turbines, these would have to rotate at over 50,000 rpm.
Which leads to a top speed of ~ 28,000 km / h (Mach 23) at the outer end of the disc.
Reducing the rpm to 25,000 would still be far too high for all materials known to us.
Since the efficiency of the Tesla turbine is directly dependent on its speed of rotation (the rpm), the efficiency decreases as the RPM decreases.
@@sylviarohge4204 Ok I know the video your talking about and they are wrong. Sorry you were miss informed. Do the math on periphery speed, not rpm.
Imagine that driving a wimshurst machine
This I will defiantly have to do!
**arcing intensifies**
So if it’s that fast why don’t we use the daily?
Not sure what you mean, can you please elaborate?
iEnergySupply if it can spin that fast, why don’t we use then on bikes or in cars?
@@mylesmorisak9091 “All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed - only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle.” -Nikola Tesla
iEnergySupply what?
iEnergySupply but like it’s still cool
3,153.3333 rpm ??
430 mph
×5,280 ft mile
÷60 min
÷12 inch circumference
about 4" rotor on the pumps.
I dont understand how the second stage works. It looks like the Air gets flung out from the middle of the first stage. Wich would mean the second stage acts more like a pump and actually wastes energy. Or do i see something wrong?
That's a LOT of fake comments! LOL
What?
@@iEnergySupply
Agreed. What
what constitutes a second stage ho could that possibly benefit the turbine since its pressure it seems to look as if there is one shaft the temperature change just exploiting the inferior "stage" as the as the primary or whatever one is peak efficiency has to suck the supply from the slower ones. not duel stage duel turbine but they aren't isolated so they are only as strong as the weakest link. you couldn't even hear the turbine reach peak resonance. It a very nice build just the math is a little optimistic the Tesla turbine would above no benefit fmo a second stage where the power from the first stage in compounded into the second stage. testiment to it's amazing power is the freezing vacuum vapor from the smaller wheel .. but the what the fuck do know
I have a video coming out explaining everything. In the mean time, here is one producing a horsepower of electrical power.ruclips.net/video/MkGAKqG2qvU/видео.html
It's plastic, for god's sake what's wrong with his brain!