It doesn't mean blocking roads, gluing yourself to the floor, spraying "fake blood" from an old fire engine up the Foreign Office, or standing on top of a tube train does it? No, the Lefties have bitten off more than they can chew and now they need a good kicking.
@@jimiwills You guess wrong. Hatred is an entirely normal and necessary emotion. We need to pick a side and stop trying to placate the enemy, they're an enemy for a reason. Disruption may be "necessary" if you think it will achieve your ends, but if you don't care or agree with those people trying to "achieve" something, then you must not tolerate them. You have to stop them in their tracks, and discard them. Which is what this legislation intends, and I fully support it for that reason.
@@jimiwills You're welcome. I don't particularly hate you, but your worldview disgusts me. It will be interesting to see how the Western World progresses, people like you seem to think your ideas will bring about a "better" World, so far it has only led to ruin. There's a reason why so many are turning away from it, and powers like Saudi, Russia, China aren't interested. You have no powers of introspection, when it doesn't work it wasn't "real", and all the repercussions are somebody else's fault. Europe isn't bad, we just need MORE Europe. Humanity isn't a dumb, ill-thought out concept, we need MORE humanity. Good luck with what that gets you.
The British tyrannical state will not come from an actual tyrannical individual assuming power, it will come because the British people didn't want to cause a fuss.
If some people were holding a protest on your street at 2am and deliberately making a load of noise and you've got work at 8am wouldn't you want them arrested?
Lee I've noticed, after reading comments on news sites, that many older folks seem to be hoping to die before long. They can't bear what they are seeing.
Roger Wilco - justice and really clean floors Here in the uk, it’s kind of a non starter, we have been disarmed so we don’t hurt each other. The army are trained, so that’s not an issue for them, in the event of a civil war where the “masses” are armed to any degree I’m fairly certain that the army will do a great deal more harm to the citizens than the citizens would do to each other and who would they be protecting?
@@onurb8552 Canada where you can get arrested for dead naming trans people. Canada where you can get arrested for not recognizing the 473 twitter genders. Canada where you can wait 15 months for the results of a pregnancy test. That Canada?
Reminds me of the tyrion quote 'when you tear out a man's tongue you're not proving him a liar, you're just telling the world you fear what he might say' sad times
“Those who are determined to be ‘offended’ will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt.” ― Christopher Hitchens
@@kaingates He was an INCREDIBLY staunch defender of free speech and the right to express beliefs (especially contrary ones), he just didn’t want to hear what the “truther” had to say, which I do see as hypocritical, but he never once said that he shouldn’t be allowed to say it. In fact, he spoke to him after the conference, so actually in a certain sense he did hear him out.
According to the govt, the people voted for this because it was in their manifesto. Except, the only thing in their manifesto relating to this was some vague promise to further law and order.
Don’t think it is just the state. It’s the people. People are now policing each other’s every word to make sure it is completely politically correct. And it’s worse than just that, it’s interpretation. Completely innocent sentences are now being deconstructed and examined word for word trying to find every possible angle it could be interpreted as offensive. Your attention is in the wrong place. Unless your views agree with those around you, you are not allowed to voice those views. That is what real oppression is. What made nations like ours so great, was the freedom to voice our opinion. Now we are turning into closed minded countries like China where there is a right and wrong answer. The state isn’t enforcing this, the people are. I’m pro diversity, lgbtq and standing up for women’s rights, but am still feeling very limited as to what is ‘allowed’ to be said.
but the people are weak and stupid!! decades of overeating fat and sugar , underfunding of the healthcare system , brain numbing TV entertainment , massively underfunded education systems , the indoctrination of students into a "victim" mentality , the decimation of age old tried and tested ideologies like respect dignity discipline honour and courage , the constant 24hour bombardment of negative mainstream news , the feminisation of society , the removal of wild open spaces for children and the addiction to screens................... the government are not afraid one little bit , they are the ones bringing in these power grabbing policies knowing full well the populace are scared and afraid , there`s no fight left in us!! all of our young men are too busy trimming their manbuns and having a fkn manicure!
@@waynus2021 I fully agree with the point on negative sensationalism point and the unhealthy eating viewpoint. The healthcare system in this country has been royally fucked for far too long and when I went to school there was one gluestick per class. However. What's wrong with a more effeminate society? Don't you think mental health issues and male suicide rates would decrease if they where just aloud to trim their man buns or have manicures without judgment. The Spartans, some of the most heralded 'masculine' archetypes, used to fully clean themselves before every battle. Also by relating the problem to feminine ideals it makes it sound like you think women's ideas are detrimental to society, which probably isn't your intention but maybe it's something to think about. It's not like I'm some soyboy man bun hipster either I've worked as a laborer for years and have never had a manicure in my life. I just don't think that's really anyone else's problem.
@Morphing Jar - You’re right, everyone quotes it without knowing what it was referring to, but separate from that it makes a good point. Life and freedom are inherently dangerous, and the logical conclusion to putting your security ahead of your liberty is to remain inside your home and have it turned into a fortress. So it may have originally been about taxes to fund wartime defences, but it makes a very pertinent point about different issues today. Maybe it should be used without mentioning Franklin’s name, because everyone gets the quote wrong anyway.
Now people worry about freedom of speech. What about “hate” speech ie saying something that other people find offensive. The curb on freedom of speech has been going on for years.
"Imagine a government so afraid of it's people it takes away their freedom to protest". The Tories aren't afraid of the people, the people voted them in, the Tories are seeing how far they can go and still get voted in in future elections. They see the rhetorical question "How bad can you be?" as a challenge.
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear 2in
With the woke brigade as their only opposition it's a guatentee they'll get in again. Who the fuck in their right mind would vote Labour these days, nothing but identity politics
@@Th3_Gael this is exactly it. I’ve not supported the torys for years. But I’d rather deal with incessant nonsense, Lies and bullshit from tories than this invasive legal framework on how to feel which is creeping in. I HATE Tory, but I wouldn’t vote labour at the moment.
@@gapa1982 "Invasive legal framework"? What? Like making protesting illegal? Btw, the Tories have been in charge for 10 years now, if you're unhappy with any of the "invasive legal framework" introduced in that time then you know who's responsible ;)
@@oakstrong1 yes the police slipped up they didn't arrest the people filming. Don't think they will make that mistake next time . Trust me if your filming the cops doing bad shit you will be a target
“Do I have the right to express opinions that the Government or other people might not like without fear of arrest or losing my job? The Human Rights Act says I DO. This Policing Bill and the Scottish Hate Crime Bill says I DON’T.”
Human rights act is much like the genieve convention everyone is meant to apply it but its entirely up to the nation in question to enforce it. Given both we the UK and the US were both accused of allowing torture which is against both the human rights act and the genieve convention both of which were ignored quess the new law is the law.
Boris is going to rip up the human rights act and the workers rights legislation, both were things he labelled as EU control and red tape holding us back I'm afraid and the sleep walkers clapped him for that and voted for his fucking brexit, this is Germany 1933 all over again.
"The greatest threat of harm doesn't come from any bomb The moment you refuse the human rights for just a few What happens when that few includes you?" -Brother Ali
Does anyone remember when maturity was a personal goal? Does anyone remember when emotional fortitude was a personal goal? Does anyone remember when fairness was a social goal?
@Jo Sm I think of it as the victimhood-card-carrying mob. By "emotionally unhealthy for them", I meant that encouraging individuals to dwell on real and imagined (recently, often imagined) slights is counterproductive for their (individual) emotional health. Attacking false targets solves none of their actual problems and leaves them individually impotent. Society as a whole needs to move its collective "sail" out of their whining wind.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it" “I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write” - Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Exactly. And being "cancelled" doesn't mean you throw that person into prison or take away their right to their opinion. It means you stop listening to them and supporting them, which EVERYONE has the right to do as well. And companies have the right to fire anyone they deem detrimental to their business. Those are rights that CANNOT be taken away. If we do, we cease to have a functional society.
Right, but Ms Hall was talking about differences of political opinion, not someone saying "We should gas all the Jews" or "Trans women are mentally ill and should be locked up in an asylum". That's what hate speech entails.
I absolutely love the Tories on social media desperately trying to play down this bill. Like they never fucking knew what Priti Patel believed & was capable of.
@@truthwillprevail5241 screaming? Umm... bit of a childish analysis of the whole situation don’t you think especially when the fat scruffy idiot you voted for didn’t attend COBRA meetings, told you to take it on the chin & is responsible for the deaths of over 126,000 deaths. The worst death rate in the world. The problem here isn’t lockdown. It’s how your government has handled it. They’re failures & beyond incompetent. And you voted got them. What does that make you?
I can see it now. Pleading not guilty in court gets you an additional charge of contempt, and your lawyer will be fined £50 for wasting the court's time.
Slippery slope arguments are usually nonsense. This one is a good example. And no, I am not agreeing with this law, or the authoritarian government that is pushing for it. But the voters did put them in power, knowing full well what an incompetent and autocratic lot they were.
@@StoutProper The voters? I would readily agree that FPTP isn't democratic in that it doesn't lead to representative government. But I don't see protests against FPTP either. If populations accept god-awful governments over and over again, without protest, do they deserve better? It's not like the government has been beating up protesters, killing activists and shutting down anti-government press.
@@lacdirk What do you see as the best way to protest against FPTP in this day and age? Who do we appeal to who has any sort of power? Actively detrimental to the Tories and SNP, not significantly beneficial to Labour, and if implemented would almost certainly have resulted in minority government (if a general election had been called at all) in 2019 which would have hamstrung Brexit regardless of which side of the fence you're on.
@@EdaliaDayCreative Sure. One is words and one is actions. I'm not sure where or when you were raised but just in case nobody has ever told you...they are different. If you somehow wish to put responsibility on others for decisions you make as to what actions you take because of what they said; let me introduce you to another little phrase..."the Nuremberg defense". Look it up.
@@stevious7278 you misunderstand me. what i mean is that a large part of cancel culture is people trying to shut people down who are a) inciting violence against them, b) campaigning to remove their rights and c) encouraging other people to see that as acceptable behavioir. and this is resulting also in increases of actual violence against these minorities affected. so a lot of the time this “offence” that people say you should just “take on the chin” or “turn the other cheek” is about people objecting to words that result in physical harm. thats not always the case and there is also a huge part of cancel culture and internet mob mentality that does very much fall into the sticks and stones category where people should just ignore it. but there is a large part of it that is the other one and thats what i was referring to. the nuremburg defense can mean either “i was told to do it so have no responsibiliy” or “i broke the law because the law is unjust”. neither of which apply to what i meant. in case its unclear my stance is that while cancel culture is abhorrent as a whole its a word thats thrown around as a catch all for several different actions people take online, a large one of which would be summed up as “criticising influential people’s harmful behaviour en masse in an attempt to stop them from causing further harm”
In Kentucky, they are trying to introduce a bill that will arrest you if you insult a police officer. Not threaten or maim, mind you. But you would be arrested if you say rude things to an officer and hurt their fee fees.
Meanwhile, over here in Germany it's technically illegal to insult anyone, period. If you insult someone, you can get up to a year in prison. Guess the one group of people who actually try and use that law...
In the UK it used to be "everything that is not expressly forbidden by law is permitted". Now it's "everything that is not expressly permitted bby law is forbidden". Shades of 1984.
The Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 was a real warning sign (and a horrible little piece of authoritarian legislation) that sadly was rather ignored by the mainstream.
I definitely prefer the former and think 1984 references are increasingly jusrified, but, isn't the latter just what France and other civil law countries have always had?
Yeah... I know a couple of Russians they all say this kinds of things. Yet supposedly all of Russia loves Putin. x_x Really I wish you and your compatriots the best of luck in regaining your freedom..
I actually can't blame Russians for loving Putin because the attitude & propaganda from the West. I'm no Putin fan but I'd rather see him remain in charge of Russia than the West get their own way & have their puppet in place who sells out the proud Russian people & their culture to globalist cunts!
The world is becoming a better place every day. Crime is the lowest it has ever been, child mortality is the lowest it has ever been, life expectancy keeps increasing (except in the USA), electric energy keeps becoming cheaper and more available, same with food and medical coverage, last year there had been fewer wars than ever before. If that is not a place you want to live in, you don't have to.
@Thomas Crean even if i were going to list ''50 positive things'' about the world today, they all come with a price. ''cheap gas!'' >bigger carbon footprint. --- where did you come up with the number 50?... at this point I'm doubting whether you're a human. you're typing like a bot lmao.
He’s bloody brilliant this guy. Aside from making a ton of sense and good points, how the heck does he spew this out so fast in a funny way? Very talented
"Do I have the right to express opinions that other people or the government do not like, without fear of arrest or losing my job, the human rights act says I do, the policing bill says I don't" - Pie
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech senscored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied chains us all irrecoverably. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard
People, March on parliament and we all just stand completely still and stare angrily at the building in utter silence for ages and ages. How disturbing would that be. Silence can be more intimidating. Someone please organise this!
Yep. That's pretty much Facebook and its ridiculous community double standards at the moment. Just use the 'forbidden' words that get picked up in their stupid algorithms and you're off to Facebook jail for 'bullying and harassment', 'hate speech' or 'inciting murder'.
"(They) promised you order, (they) promised you peace, and all (they) demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent." V was telling us what was coming down the line.
@Concrete Head They might as well be called satanists, or has the Epstein saga already been forgotten? What about all those wars, millions dead, for what? So they can milk more money out of the defense budget. What about the GFC housing fraud - millions impoverished, made homeless, and more money gone - without any consequences. Add to that the refusal to implement taxpayer funded healthcare, in preference to allowing people to die if they can't pay a middleman insurer (who might not pay out anyway), and the corruption of the legacy media by by intelligence agencies that gladly trade people freedoms for additional power. When I think of a definition of 'Santanist', these characteristics do align. After all that, actual belief in Satan seems immaterial - it's the actions that matter.
Either all protests are okay or none are okay. I may not agree with certain protests that have happened this and last year but I defended them from the beginning because I understand that you NEED to be able to protest anything in a free and fair society
@@leahsander5490 well when you’re selective about your outrage it shows you don’t care about values/ethics/right vs wrong and u only care about politics and whether those people agree with your side or not. that’s no way to live in a free society “rules for thee but not for me”
Only in Britain could a Prime Minister organise the deaths of 500,000 people, every one of them for the purpose of profit, and gained popularity with the public. We are entirely run by what the Daily Mail tells us. Voter with the ability to think for themselves are an endangered species. And clearly our fascist regime intends to bring about their extinction.
I'm genuinely frightened by the way we are going, it's frigging Orwellian I really never thought that we would get to this stage and it's getting worse . Please can we cancel Cancel Culture now .
As someone who would be considered left leaning, cancel culture has gone too far. People jump the gun on people and don’t understand people can change and grow. It’s like people trying to cancel others for an offensive tweet from 10 years ago is just straight up absurdity. People have become so sensitive these days they over look the actual things they should be up and arms about
Agreed. The problem with how far it's gone it's also embolden bigots. By silencing everyone we've given bigots space to comment, when otherwise they'd have been ignored.
Yeah wholeheartedly agree. I’m an asexual and I’ve seen first hand the absurdity in some corners of that community. A one off comment a character made in Brooklyn 99 by a fictional character writen by someone who doesn’t know what the word means sent the community into a cancel frenzy. It’s utter insanity
Same here. I've been a leftie since I was a teenager and still am. Sadly though since the unions were demonised and lost their influence, left wing politics moved from the workplace to the internet. Now they're less interested in wealth inequality and the rights of working people and more interested in gender identity. Or at least that's impression they give and that counts when it comes to getting people to vote.
Back in the day? Witch hunts never went away, only the changed witches to something else after the Holy Inquisition and later the Spanish Inquisition kept proving that witches did nothing wrong.
Offences which have a maximum sentence of ten years... "Cruelty to persons under 16", "Administering poison etc. so as to endanger life", "Possession of firearm without certificate", "Indecent assault on a woman", "Indecent assault on a man". ...And now, drawing a willy on my local statue. Seems fair.
@@Chicanery_Artifice freedom of expression? I dunno, but I wouldn't want to do ten years for it. I'll be honest, I don't like people that deface statues, but this is the thin end of a police state wedge.
What costs the country more? Cleaning a bit of paint off a statue or locking someone up for ten years and looking like draconian scum bags to the rest of the world?
@@Laura-Yu - When injustice becomes the law? there is no other recourse. I lament violence - of course I do - but take away civil liberties? and violence is the inevitable result. If they don't know what the consequences of such actions would be? I have no pity for them. They SHOULD know, the history books are available to all - and they don't show us the same mercy.
@@Laura-Yu Destroying their money making machine is the only way to send a message. It's the government buildings that should be targeted. If 1000 people charge in there they can't shoot all 1000 before they get their hands on the politicians. The corruption HAS to end. The people have had enough. Blood WILL be spilled.
@@rogerking2888 yeah you have no idea what are you talking about. Russian law concerning offending religious beliefs, for example can actually land you a prison sentence up to 3 years. It can be a joke on stand up or social media post.
"If you can't be heard, you can't change things!" That's how those in power want it. They don't want change, the current paradigm has served them perfectly. That's why they're bent on shutting down any form of protest.
Except they're not shutting down protest. If you think that it takes burning things and shouting, have a very close look at the movements Ghandi put in action. Quiet, polite, complete adherence to local laws and considerate of others to the extreme. And they changed the destiny of an Empire.
@@miaulersbirds2210 Sometimes the only effective form of protest is revolt. Look at Myanmar. Do you think quiet protest wasn't attempted after the military coup? When you are overtaken by dictators who shoot to kill dissenters, that is shutting down protest, is it not?
You can say anything you want to me, they are only a string of words. It is up to me whether I choose to be offended or not. Who defines that line? Something said to me I may laugh at, the same thing said to someone else may offend them to their core. Offense cannot be given, only taken.
@@nhykoro Unfortunately, due to the nature of this site, we can't test your claim, therefore you also can't back it up by having people say seriously objectionable things to you and seeing your response.
@@nhykoro You are describing HOW you may respond to an offence, so patiently offence CAN be GIVEN. Lets be honest here people can and do give offence. How it should be delt with is a different matter. But to act as if it does not exist is a LIE.
Worst population to death toll ratio in the world. 22bn for an app that if you just leave your phone at home doesn't track and trace. I Think they have done a great job... at fucking up.
We always thought we were a country with balls. Reality is we haven't been since the 50s. British failures during WW2 leading to the loss of the empire, Suez, sick man of Europe etc. It all added up.
The Police are called to a woman’s house after she’d dial 999 bellowing that a neighbour was exposing himself. Blues & Twos race there. ‘ He’s upstairs!’ Up they go. ‘Where Madam?’ ‘In his bedroom across the street!’ ‘But, Madam, he’s behind net curtains...’ ‘Stand on this chair, you can see everything!’ JK
“He was stood on a chair in his room and then jumped off” (regardless the poor f**ker was hanging himself coz this damn lockdown) i bet they would charge him still with exposure. (By the way i dnt know this story, i simply predicted a situation that today is so possible)
The dodo is about to hit the fan environmentally, carbon has only accelerated a natural disaster cycle and while were all thinking we can prevent it, some are looking at how they can survive it. Bunker down and replace the workers with machines while they die topside. Sounds paranoid? Look into the science, it's obfuscated but the data is there I believe. I hope I'm crazy.
Unlike the revolutions in communist countries in the late 80s, there is nothing to replace our current system. No greater power to take over, slice and dice entire countries, and take whatever they want. You should have seen the idiots yelling in the streets after the capitalists took over. "THEY WILL GIVE US FREE FOOD, FREE HOUSES, FREE ELECTRICITY, FREE GAS, FREE CARS". While expensive foreign cars popped out seemingly over night filled with businessmen doing great deals for them. LOL. People are paying rent to western landlords. Many of them are unemployed and dirt poor right now. Some old homeless guy was saying he used to work at a local beer factory before the revolution, now shut down. Makes sense. Now we import beer from the west. Look at the "revolution" in the US of A. Burning down government buildings, taking over neighborhoods, rioting for months in the streets, cops/ soldiers firing into crowds. They went as far as storming the Capitol. It then just fizzled out as there was no greater power to take over. Or the HK "revolution". Unless there is a greater power to take over a revolution is not a revolution. There will be no change in power. There is no other power on this planet. We are globalized. This is the new world order. You better get used to it. Why am I even typing this? Didn't I just listen to Pie? I will probably get sent to jail or cancelled for this comment. Ah fuck it. #YOLO.
It's nothing out of the ordinary though. It sucks but humans have a history of doing way worse to each other. Actually quite barbaric and brutal in biblical times.
"If we are judged and convicted because of our words, then we become criminals because of the opinions we express. If this is how it is going to be, then the law stops being law and becomes a tool of tyranny."
So catholics in northern Ireland protested and expressed their concerns and they where shot dead arrested and sent to prison without trial sexualy abused kids shot with rubber bullets etc etc and that was all jolly ol england so not suprised when they do anything anymore
I know right. I do form my own opinions, but my political compass and opinions align so well with him. Makes me glad to see I'm not the only one out there with opinions like that. Though I do very much respect other peoples opinions.
For decades, the accusation Conservatives levelled at liberals was that we were hyper-sensitive, and desperate to be offended. That left to our own devices we would create a culture that strangled free speech in a misguided effort to protect people. It lessened as a talking point over time as Conservatism grew more monstrous, but never quite went away. We should all be *very* wary of doing anything that proves Conservatives right.
The Left is hyper sensitive and unbelievably censorious. Just because the Right are Authoritarian, doesn't mean your shit doesn't stink too. We need a third choice.
The forty odd thousand people who complained are the type of people who will watch things they wouldn't normally watch just so they can complain about it.
There is nothing to be afraid of from a bunch of docile losers who just want to sit around and get free shit from government. That's why a lot of people are still onboard with this lockdown nonsense and consequent loss of businesses - they're comfortable enough and they're not starving. That, and the way they have framed the concept of freedom in their mind. How many people have you heard say "I can't wait to get my vaccine so I can be given my freedom back!"? What do you mean "given"... It is not something they should be allowed to take away, but people don't want sovereignty and freedom, they want to be coddled and given free things. And they want others to pick up the tab for it.
One of the more difficult things about this is that it's an invisible enemy. It's not just one person responsible but a mad collective that can't be taken down.
Its not that it cannot be taken down, its what do you replace it with? pretty much everyone says "bring down the government", but they will be too lazy to stand up to take over if they ever did. all people want is for someone else to sort the issue out for them.
The whole state and the economic oligarchy have to be taken down, a brand new radically democratic society must be established from bottom up. That's a Revolution.
Jonathan Pie used to make amusing observations. Now he's the go to person for a miserable summary of UK life. I'm surprised he hasn't had a visit by the Non-Crimes Unit of our thought police yet. It must surely be coming.
We are infants in the age of social media, is it any surprise we are tearing each other apart. Im afraid we are going to burn ourselves to the ground before we learn to live with social media like adults.
Social media is opt-in psychological warfare against yourself. We might eventually learn to live with it but for now the best you can do is protect yourself from it.
In this regard it's worth remembering the words of Lord Sumption: ''our status as a free society doesn't actually depend on our laws or our constitution, it depends on convention. It depends on a collective instinct as to the right way to behave''.
@Cancer McAids here is the exact quote from John Adams, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Yes, thank you! So many right wingers think they’re oppressed because they get called out for the offensive shit they say, meanwhile the government is introducing a law directly in response to protests from the left in an attempt to silence them. It’s infuriating.
I was banned from Twitter twice for suggesting capital punishment should return for corrupt officials. Ironic seeing as Twitter is US based where they have capital punishment.
I'm giving you a standing ovation, Jonathan. It seems the Ministry of Truth is becoming real and Winston Smith is hard at work deleting words for a more inclusive Newspeak.
'Dear Sir, I must complain in the strongest possible terms'... what Officer, me, I'm just writing a letter to the editor of The Times... what do you mean I must now accompany you down to the station... I was just writing a letter...
I think the right and left can unite over a mutual common interest against the establishment and the ongoing curtailing of free expression and other civil liberties. Individuals need to be FREE first then we can have our disagreements from there.
@@ComicGladiator there’s nothing tribalist about acknowledging the left and right fundamentally disagree on what freedom is, what freedoms you should have and how to achieve it. Not to mention that the terms “left” and “right” are both such broadchurches that even within themselves they don’t agree.
@@matthewmalham9539 shapiro? Piers is a prat but he's not an idiot. Ben Shapiro is as thick as two short planks. He thinks taking fast is the equivalent of being smart, he just talks twice as much shit
@@mantistoboggan5171 He definitely seems like a Shapiro guy. But back when he used to work for CNN of all news networks he grilled Shapiro so I'm unsure. Either way he's getting a contract with either a right-wing network or commentator. My money's on Fox News in a few months
Thank you Pie! 🙏🏼 I feel that all over 50 year olds should take to the streets and protest snd apologise to our screwed up country for the dangerously deranged government and society we have created! We need some 60s style protests countrywide! I feel like being truly loud and offensive!
Never have there been more protests than today. Well, last Friday I guess. The difference is that in the 1960s protests were rare, and were widely reported. Nowadays most protests aren't reported anymore. The biggest protests aren't reported anymore. Not just because they can become so frequent, and so frequented, but also because of what they protest.
Anybody remember "The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, ('The party killer')", The youth turned to Simon Cowell for cultural guidance, who supplied "Zig and Zag", "Robson and Jerome", and "The Power Rangers" among many other classic acts. The British music industry was saved! And thats the 90's explained.
Tbf with the meghan markle thing he claimed she was lying about her mental health without any sort of proof. A statement like that discourages those who struggle with certain conditions from getting help. Piers Morgan should be held accountable for that claim.
@@giacomobandini969 I'm saying Piers Morgan harassing and calling meghan markle a liar could cause others with mental difficulties to not come out as they may worry they will be accused of lying. This isn't about legitimising her row between the royal family.
And I m saying that Markle's behaviour may encourage others to fire whatever sort of unproved accusation against anyone, just as long they said that they have felt suicidal or suffering or whatever.
"without any sort of proof" - Proof? No, but Morgan did know her personally, didn't he? So his opinion is at least based on his assessment of her character, as opposed to 99.999% of all the other opinions on social media.
@@gagatube hmm he went on a date with her and she rejected him and he quite clearly couldn't take it so chose to go on a tirade against her at every opportunity.
The problem is not the right to air your opinion: the problem is not having the ability to challenge those opinions with the same force and media spread as those people such as Morgan.
Thailand has a law that criminalises criticism of the Monarch. The Tories are inexorably moving in this direction. UK citizens will not have the legal power for political protest. Then the Torie will have what they desire which is a right wing dictatorship such as that which is practiced in countries like Poland , Brazil and Belarus.
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”
― George Orwell
I don't want to hear that.
It doesn't mean blocking roads, gluing yourself to the floor, spraying "fake blood" from an old fire engine up the Foreign Office, or standing on top of a tube train does it? No, the Lefties have bitten off more than they can chew and now they need a good kicking.
Brilliant.
@@jimiwills You guess wrong. Hatred is an entirely normal and necessary emotion. We need to pick a side and stop trying to placate the enemy, they're an enemy for a reason. Disruption may be "necessary" if you think it will achieve your ends, but if you don't care or agree with those people trying to "achieve" something, then you must not tolerate them. You have to stop them in their tracks, and discard them. Which is what this legislation intends, and I fully support it for that reason.
@@jimiwills You're welcome. I don't particularly hate you, but your worldview disgusts me. It will be interesting to see how the Western World progresses, people like you seem to think your ideas will bring about a "better" World, so far it has only led to ruin. There's a reason why so many are turning away from it, and powers like Saudi, Russia, China aren't interested. You have no powers of introspection, when it doesn't work it wasn't "real", and all the repercussions are somebody else's fault. Europe isn't bad, we just need MORE Europe. Humanity isn't a dumb, ill-thought out concept, we need MORE humanity. Good luck with what that gets you.
Could we use it to our advantage? I am offended by the entire UK parliament, send them all to prison!
Spot on.
Yer except the court is run by a judge that’s paid by the people you wana convict.the only way if the French way of with there heads
Me too, I am offended by that bill!
@@djnormalnorman6590 France knew what had to be done with the clergy , the monarchy and dictators from all sides
Same.
Calling protesters a bit noisy to silence them is the most British form of free-speech suppression I could have imagined.
The British tyrannical state will not come from an actual tyrannical individual assuming power, it will come because the British people didn't want to cause a fuss.
@@sin21ful Id say its about time to start causing a fuss as England as I remember it seems to be no more.
😂
@@sin21ful Is that a ZP quote ? Haha
If some people were holding a protest on your street at 2am and deliberately making a load of noise and you've got work at 8am wouldn't you want them arrested?
My own mother who is 82 said to me yesterday this world is going down hill and she is glad she wont be around to see it - how sad is that!
Sad but true
Lee I've noticed, after reading comments on news sites, that many older folks seem to be hoping to die before long. They can't bear what they are seeing.
I agree with her,
God bless her.
I'm not far behind her in age and I'd go along with what she said
Roger Wilco - justice and really clean floors
Here in the uk, it’s kind of a non starter, we have been disarmed so we don’t hurt each other.
The army are trained, so that’s not an issue for them, in the event of a civil war where the “masses” are armed to any degree I’m fairly certain that the army will do a great deal more harm to the citizens than the citizens would do to each other and who would they be protecting?
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Perfect name .
Who said that? Sounds like an Orwell quote?
Did you just think of that? Or did you know that before and you were keeping it a secret?
@@connorspirasee6426 "Always eat yellow snow if you vote Tory"
@@connorspirasee6426 "Snow yella, tory fella? Chow down!"
This one wasn’t even that funny, it was just sad, our country’s bloody insane.
What's new?
It's not just your country.
Once we Americans were a part of Britain. Now Britain follows America. Not in the good way though.
Practical the whole world is ******, the only place what I can think of where nothing goes wrong practically is Scandinavia and Canada
@@onurb8552 Canada where you can get arrested for dead naming trans people. Canada where you can get arrested for not recognizing the 473 twitter genders. Canada where you can wait 15 months for the results of a pregnancy test. That Canada?
Reminds me of the tyrion quote 'when you tear out a man's tongue you're not proving him a liar, you're just telling the world you fear what he might say' sad times
Yes
Yes! I'm watching the series all over again. Love it.
“Those who are determined to be ‘offended’ will discover a provocation somewhere. We cannot possibly adjust enough to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt.” ― Christopher Hitchens
Amen.
I miss him
I mean Hitchens flipped out about a 9/11-truther at one of his talks, doesn’t sound like someone who’s a staunch defender of free speech
@@kaingates He was an INCREDIBLY staunch defender of free speech and the right to express beliefs (especially contrary ones), he just didn’t want to hear what the “truther” had to say, which I do see as hypocritical, but he never once said that he shouldn’t be allowed to say it. In fact, he spoke to him after the conference, so actually in a certain sense he did hear him out.
What empty and worthless lives must they have
It's sadly not a joke anymore, this is the state control we are sleepwalking into.
According to the govt, the people voted for this because it was in their manifesto. Except, the only thing in their manifesto relating to this was some vague promise to further law and order.
Absolutely.
Y'all've already walked
Don’t think it is just the state. It’s the people. People are now policing each other’s every word to make sure it is completely politically correct. And it’s worse than just that, it’s interpretation. Completely innocent sentences are now being deconstructed and examined word for word trying to find every possible angle it could be interpreted as offensive. Your attention is in the wrong place. Unless your views agree with those around you, you are not allowed to voice those views. That is what real oppression is. What made nations like ours so great, was the freedom to voice our opinion. Now we are turning into closed minded countries like China where there is a right and wrong answer. The state isn’t enforcing this, the people are. I’m pro diversity, lgbtq and standing up for women’s rights, but am still feeling very limited as to what is ‘allowed’ to be said.
Something the East Germans thought they'd finally escaped from in 1989/90 onwards.
People in the 1960s: I can’t wait to have a flying car in the future
People in 2021: having an opinion is a prison sentence
2020s=1984
To be fair, that was equally true in the 1960s.
It is only the 'woke' that has pushed it this far with their whinging about being offended constantly.
@@SarcasticDave101 No group cries about being offended more than conservatives.
@@TheMeta6 _"2020s=1984"_ Well, at least time travel was proven, so to speak.
"People should not be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of the people."
Those times are here.
Why do you think they are worried?
but the people are weak and stupid!! decades of overeating fat and sugar , underfunding of the healthcare system , brain numbing TV entertainment , massively underfunded education systems , the indoctrination of students into a "victim" mentality , the decimation of age old tried and tested ideologies like respect dignity discipline honour and courage , the constant 24hour bombardment of negative mainstream news , the feminisation of society , the removal of wild open spaces for children and the addiction to screens................... the government are not afraid one little bit , they are the ones bringing in these power grabbing policies knowing full well the populace are scared and afraid , there`s no fight left in us!! all of our young men are too busy trimming their manbuns and having a fkn manicure!
@@waynus2021 I fully agree with the point on negative sensationalism point and the unhealthy eating viewpoint. The healthcare system in this country has been royally fucked for far too long and when I went to school there was one gluestick per class.
However.
What's wrong with a more effeminate society? Don't you think mental health issues and male suicide rates would decrease if they where just aloud to trim their man buns or have manicures without judgment. The Spartans, some of the most heralded 'masculine' archetypes, used to fully clean themselves before every battle.
Also by relating the problem to feminine ideals it makes it sound like you think women's ideas are detrimental to society, which probably isn't your intention but maybe it's something to think about.
It's not like I'm some soyboy man bun hipster either I've worked as a laborer for years and have never had a manicure in my life. I just don't think that's really anyone else's problem.
@@waynus2021 they are watching us closely. The birds over the river are flying high this year.
Well...its the other way around
“If you give up your freedom for safety, you don’t deserve either one.” Benjamin Franklin
The last year has proven this more than anything
You give up your freedom for safety every time youre told to fasten your seatbelt on a plane
@@alexjaybrady I don’t wear seatbelts and I drive everywhere I don’t fly
@Morphing Jar - You’re right, everyone quotes it without knowing what it was referring to, but separate from that it makes a good point. Life and freedom are inherently dangerous, and the logical conclusion to putting your security ahead of your liberty is to remain inside your home and have it turned into a fortress. So it may have originally been about taxes to fund wartime defences, but it makes a very pertinent point about different issues today. Maybe it should be used without mentioning Franklin’s name, because everyone gets the quote wrong anyway.
@Morphing Jar shut up
"The Witchfinder Generals never went away. They just got themselves are decent broadband connection". - Classic.
Now people worry about freedom of speech. What about “hate” speech ie saying something that other people find offensive. The curb on freedom of speech has been going on for years.
@@designanddirection Yeah. Those in power have always wanted more power for themselves and less for everyone else.
'The Witch Finder General' is not a pleasant film but worth a view.
"Imagine a government so afraid of it's people it takes away their freedom to protest".
The Tories aren't afraid of the people, the people voted them in, the Tories are seeing how far they can go and still get voted in in future elections. They see the rhetorical question "How bad can you be?" as a challenge.
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear 2in
With the woke brigade as their only opposition it's a guatentee they'll get in again.
Who the fuck in their right mind would vote Labour these days, nothing but identity politics
@@Th3_Gael this is exactly it. I’ve not supported the torys for years. But I’d rather deal with incessant nonsense,
Lies and bullshit from tories than this invasive legal framework on how to feel which is creeping in. I HATE Tory, but I wouldn’t vote labour at the moment.
@@gapa1982 same, except I'm Scottish so I've the Scottish nazi party to put up with too
@@gapa1982 "Invasive legal framework"? What? Like making protesting illegal? Btw, the Tories have been in charge for 10 years now, if you're unhappy with any of the "invasive legal framework" introduced in that time then you know who's responsible ;)
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
JFK
Not heard that before, good soundbite.
Probably done on purpose
The sad thing is it will only fuel further freedom to be taken away
Best comment ever.
"Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right..."
Here I am ❤️
But Austria Hungary’s my mate
I’m close to the middle according to quantum mechanics.
Are you perhaps feeling stuck in the middle
I just wanna grill bro
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."
George Orwell.
Or a knee on the neck.
@@oakstrong1 yes the police slipped up they didn't arrest the people filming. Don't think they will make that mistake next time .
Trust me if your filming the cops doing bad shit you will be a target
I thought is was fascism
@@alanjackson4028 The police aren't the problem. It's the Government.
That is no different from humanity's past, though. Things have actually gotten a lot better overall.
“Do I have the right to express opinions that the Government or other people might not like without fear of arrest or losing my job? The Human Rights Act says I DO. This Policing Bill and the Scottish Hate Crime Bill says I DON’T.”
Human rights act is much like the genieve convention everyone is meant to apply it but its entirely up to the nation in question to enforce it. Given both we the UK and the US were both accused of allowing torture which is against both the human rights act and the genieve convention both of which were ignored quess the new law is the law.
Boris is going to rip up the human rights act and the workers rights legislation, both were things he labelled as EU control and red tape holding us back I'm afraid and the sleep walkers clapped him for that and voted for his fucking brexit, this is Germany 1933 all over again.
@@RK-zf1jm Geneva convention, but I take your point :)
Without fear of arrest? Sure.
Without losing your job? Nope.
They don't care, the U.N. have been reporting our abuse of disabled people's human rights for years
"The greatest threat of harm doesn't come from any bomb
The moment you refuse the human rights for just a few
What happens when that few includes you?"
-Brother Ali
This the rapper right ?
@@elliottkendall5256 yep! the song is called "civil war"
In an immortal technique song.
Sweet,thought so, not enough people know about these dudes anymore, the truth hurts I guess 😅🤦♂️
Spot on 😢.
Does anyone remember when maturity was a personal goal? Does anyone remember when emotional fortitude was a personal goal? Does anyone remember when fairness was a social goal?
@Jo Sm It's not simply a matter of not wanting to be bullied by the emotionally fragile (I agree) --- it's emotionally unhealthy for *them*.
@Jo Sm I think of it as the victimhood-card-carrying mob. By "emotionally unhealthy for them", I meant that encouraging individuals to dwell on real and imagined (recently, often imagined) slights is counterproductive for their (individual) emotional health. Attacking false targets solves none of their actual problems and leaves them individually impotent. Society as a whole needs to move its collective "sail" out of their whining wind.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it"
“I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write”
- Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Exactly. And being "cancelled" doesn't mean you throw that person into prison or take away their right to their opinion. It means you stop listening to them and supporting them, which EVERYONE has the right to do as well. And companies have the right to fire anyone they deem detrimental to their business. Those are rights that CANNOT be taken away. If we do, we cease to have a functional society.
Well, the first quote is voltaire, but yeah, point taken
@@freakydeaky1435 Well spotted. And while we are on Voltaire, how about: "The right to free speech is more important than the content of the speech."
@@freakydeaky1435 actually it's not voltaire en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall
Right, but Ms Hall was talking about differences of political opinion, not someone saying "We should gas all the Jews" or "Trans women are mentally ill and should be locked up in an asylum". That's what hate speech entails.
I absolutely love the Tories on social media desperately trying to play down this bill. Like they never fucking knew what Priti Patel believed & was capable of.
Priti is just the stupid messenger, like Hancock. It's the entire Tory party's idea. They want to be like the Republicans in the USA.
Labour have spent all year screaming for harder lockdown there no better
@@truthwillprevail5241 screaming? Umm... bit of a childish analysis of the whole situation don’t you think especially when the fat scruffy idiot you voted for didn’t attend COBRA meetings, told you to take it on the chin & is responsible for the deaths of over 126,000 deaths. The worst death rate in the world.
The problem here isn’t lockdown. It’s how your government has handled it. They’re failures & beyond incompetent. And you voted got them. What does that make you?
the irony in this comment is through the roof ..did you watch the video at all?
@@truthwillprevail5241 do you think that may be because we have some of the worsted death rates, and the government was fucking things up?
How long till an innocent person asserting their innocence is deemed a protest ? And remaining silent will be deemed an admission of guilt ?
I can see it now. Pleading not guilty in court gets you an additional charge of contempt, and your lawyer will be fined £50 for wasting the court's time.
Slippery slope arguments are usually nonsense. This one is a good example.
And no, I am not agreeing with this law, or the authoritarian government that is pushing for it. But the voters did put them in power, knowing full well what an incompetent and autocratic lot they were.
@@lacdirk apparently the received wisdom was they had no choice
@@StoutProper The voters? I would readily agree that FPTP isn't democratic in that it doesn't lead to representative government.
But I don't see protests against FPTP either. If populations accept god-awful governments over and over again, without protest, do they deserve better? It's not like the government has been beating up protesters, killing activists and shutting down anti-government press.
@@lacdirk What do you see as the best way to protest against FPTP in this day and age? Who do we appeal to who has any sort of power? Actively detrimental to the Tories and SNP, not significantly beneficial to Labour, and if implemented would almost certainly have resulted in minority government (if a general election had been called at all) in 2019 which would have hamstrung Brexit regardless of which side of the fence you're on.
4:28 "I see a culture that eschews redemption or forgiveness." That's the video. Right there.
Cancel culture in a fucking nutshell
'Offensive is subjective. What offends me may not offend you' - Steve Hughes.
"Whatever happened to 'sticks and stones?' " :D
@@stevious7278 only works if the words people are saying dont also encourage other people to beat you with sticks and stones.
@@EdaliaDayCreative Sure. One is words and one is actions. I'm not sure where or when you were raised but just in case nobody has ever told you...they are different.
If you somehow wish to put responsibility on others for decisions you make as to what actions you take because of what they said; let me introduce you to another little phrase..."the Nuremberg defense".
Look it up.
@@stevious7278 you misunderstand me. what i mean is that a large part of cancel culture is people trying to shut people down who are a) inciting violence against them, b) campaigning to remove their rights and c) encouraging other people to see that as acceptable behavioir. and this is resulting also in increases of actual violence against these minorities affected. so a lot of the time this “offence” that people say you should just “take on the chin” or “turn the other cheek” is about people objecting to words that result in physical harm. thats not always the case and there is also a huge part of cancel culture and internet mob mentality that does very much fall into the sticks and stones category where people should just ignore it. but there is a large part of it that is the other one and thats what i was referring to. the nuremburg defense can mean either “i was told to do it so have no responsibiliy” or “i broke the law because the law is unjust”. neither of which apply to what i meant. in case its unclear my stance is that while cancel culture is abhorrent as a whole its a word thats thrown around as a catch all for several different actions people take online, a large one of which would be summed up as “criticising influential people’s harmful behaviour en masse in an attempt to stop them from causing further harm”
@@EdaliaDayCreative Simple response...
bullshit
In Kentucky, they are trying to introduce a bill that will arrest you if you insult a police officer. Not threaten or maim, mind you. But you would be arrested if you say rude things to an officer and hurt their fee fees.
It's always one of the first steps to take in totalitarian regime.
I think it passed and is waiting for the governor to sign it.
@@TheSuzberry are you shitting me? Yikes! I'm so glad I don't live in KY, but it's terrifying.
Just commented about the same thing - always nice to see someone else on the same wavelength.
Meanwhile, over here in Germany it's technically illegal to insult anyone, period. If you insult someone, you can get up to a year in prison. Guess the one group of people who actually try and use that law...
"You find me offensive
I find you offensive
For finding me offensive"
- Eminem - "Rain Man"
"If you can't disrupt things, things stay the same." Nice one.
Panta rei, I believe, regardless of others.
If you can disrupt something stupid, you aught to.
In the UK it used to be "everything that is not expressly forbidden by law is permitted". Now it's "everything that is not expressly permitted bby law is forbidden". Shades of 1984.
The Psychoactive Substances Act 2016 was a real warning sign (and a horrible little piece of authoritarian legislation) that sadly was rather ignored by the mainstream.
Doubleplusungood
I definitely prefer the former and think 1984 references are increasingly jusrified, but, isn't the latter just what France and other civil law countries have always had?
Covid 1984
Ban social media and the problem will go away 😑
I may live in America, but Boris Johnson's existence offends me. Who do I call to get him arrested?
Just get trump to challenge johnson to an etonian boxing match, that's the only way.
Your mother
The Queen
Heath Winland, wish I knew, I’d be calling them myself!
Oh... the pathetic offended.
0:52 No need to imagine, I am from Russia, its not fun
Yeah... I know a couple of Russians they all say this kinds of things. Yet supposedly all of Russia loves Putin. x_x Really I wish you and your compatriots the best of luck in regaining your freedom..
Massive love and respect for Russians, so I also wish your nation and it's people the best.
yep, greetings from Iran.
I actually can't blame Russians for loving Putin because the attitude & propaganda from the West.
I'm no Putin fan but I'd rather see him remain in charge of Russia than the West get their own way & have their puppet in place who sells out the proud Russian people & their culture to globalist cunts!
@@pessi6185 Haha, there are more possibilities than an autocrat or a globalist.
“The snowflake never feels responsible for the avalanche.”
-Voltaire
It's not a Voltaire quote sorry... Try Stanislaw J. Lec, he was a Polish Poet who lived between 1909 - 1966
Not a Voltaire quote
@@daveking8186 z i8?
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🤔
Great quote
The worlds fast becoming a place I no longer want to live in.
We have enough cry babies already
The world is becoming a better place every day.
Crime is the lowest it has ever been, child mortality is the lowest it has ever been, life expectancy keeps increasing (except in the USA), electric energy keeps becoming cheaper and more available, same with food and medical coverage, last year there had been fewer wars than ever before.
If that is not a place you want to live in, you don't have to.
@@davidwuhrer6704 you're quite narrow-minded, aren't you.
@Thomas Crean even if i were going to list ''50 positive things'' about the world today, they all come with a price. ''cheap gas!'' >bigger carbon footprint. --- where did you come up with the number 50?... at this point I'm doubting whether you're a human. you're typing like a bot lmao.
@Thomas Crean ah yeah, typical, only address the tiniest segment of my reply. good luck mr hivemind, have a wonderful day. 🙂
The silver lining is that I'm deeply offended by Priti Patel so I can have her arrested now
Please don't
You know the score
She does the crime
We pay the fine.
Shes "brown" so theyll proabably do you instead, damn racist lol
No! Because she can create a new law to trump (small T) your law - oh and throw you in jail for looking at a policeman in the wrong way.
@@liamgeorgie2024
Ah but if the person complaining is a person of colour, they can’t use the racist excuse.
LOL
He’s bloody brilliant this guy. Aside from making a ton of sense and good points, how the heck does he spew this out so fast in a funny way? Very talented
Practice, learning his script really well, rehearsal. (I guess)
djfirkins is correct
He's an actor. It's his profession. He's a professional actor 🍻
Practise and intelligence.
@@LucasCarter2 And lots of anger.
"Do I have the right to express opinions that other people or the government do not like, without fear of arrest or losing my job, the human rights act says I do, the policing bill says I don't" - Pie
"With the first link, the chain is forged.
The first speech senscored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied chains us all irrecoverably.
The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged."
- Jean-Luc Picard
I think you’ll find it was Judge Aaron Satie who originally said it ;)
@@MarxistKnight Shots fired! Nerd fight!
I'm guni rewatch drumhead now, fantastic episode.
The best quote of all in here.
And Patrick Stewart would probably agree wholeheartedly.
*censored ...
But still a great line, delivered by a great actor ...
People in the 1960s: I wish I could go into the future and see what it’s like.
People in 2021: I wish I could go back to the 60s.
🤣 sad but true
I'm not sure the 60s are a good target to strive towards...
Pretty sure it’s only white men who were treated well in the 60s, so for them sure, everyone else, not so much.
@@lamas93866 2010 would be better than this.
@@tammyjanjan2892 oh give it a rest. Can we not just be united against today's attempts at oppression please.
People, March on parliament and we all just stand completely still and stare angrily at the building in utter silence for ages and ages.
How disturbing would that be.
Silence can be more intimidating.
Someone please organise this!
count me in
Yeah, except they don't see or hear you. But they can still find it offensive and arrest you.
@@oakstrong1 if the protest is disruptive (ie, it's effective) then it's illegal.
Why can’t you? That’s the problem, the silent majority don’t have a leader
Nicely SAID.
The film “Demolition man” featuring Sly Stallone and Wesley Snipes predicted future society...
Yep. That's pretty much Facebook and its ridiculous community double standards at the moment. Just use the 'forbidden' words that get picked up in their stupid algorithms and you're off to Facebook jail for 'bullying and harassment', 'hate speech' or 'inciting murder'.
Demolition Man is a leftist's wet dream.
I literally just watched this two days ago.
@@noahholland6804 literally watched it? Is that different to just watched it?
@@Just_lift_anyone - with subtitles perhaps
"(They) promised you order, (they) promised you peace, and all (they) demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent." V was telling us what was coming down the line.
George Orwell first. There are Satanists in power and we can't remain in denial without consequences
@@skyejacques
God is in the rain
great movie.
@Concrete Head
They might as well be called satanists, or has the Epstein saga already been forgotten? What about all those wars, millions dead, for what? So they can milk more money out of the defense budget. What about the GFC housing fraud - millions impoverished, made homeless, and more money gone - without any consequences.
Add to that the refusal to implement taxpayer funded healthcare, in preference to allowing people to die if they can't pay a middleman insurer (who might not pay out anyway), and the corruption of the legacy media by by intelligence agencies that gladly trade people freedoms for additional power.
When I think of a definition of 'Santanist', these characteristics do align. After all that, actual belief in Satan seems immaterial - it's the actions that matter.
'The past was erased, erasure was forgotten and the lie became the truth'. Orwell
Either all protests are okay or none are okay. I may not agree with certain protests that have happened this and last year but I defended them from the beginning because I understand that you NEED to be able to protest anything in a free and fair society
Yeah, all or nothing thinking is awesome...
100% agree. Freedom of speech and expression, including freedom to protest is an irreplaceable right in a modern society.
What if I protest the laws against murder?
@@spunkternal go ahead, it won’t be very popular though, but i wouldn’t want you to be arrested for just simply speaking
@@leahsander5490 well when you’re selective about your outrage it shows you don’t care about values/ethics/right vs wrong and u only care about politics and whether those people agree with your side or not. that’s no way to live in a free society “rules for thee but not for me”
That is so fucked up. I never imagined that something like this could happen in my lifetime.
Something like what?
@@SamuelBlack84 are reality is a dystopian parody
@@aaaaii6511 It isn't
@@aaaaii6511 Your spelling is a dystopian parody.
Gosh. I expected nothing less and have said for decades that our freedoms hang by a thread.
I love this guy - straight to the truth and heart of the matter: spotlighting the rampant absurdity and stupidity in the world today!! 👏👏👏👏👏
A new government is desperately needed. Is anyone still unclear on this?
Get my niece to rule, she's a genius
yeah apparently half the country looking at the polls supporting boris lol
@@kamikazilucas don't trust the poll data.
Only in Britain could a Prime Minister organise the deaths of 500,000 people, every one of them for the purpose of profit, and gained popularity with the public.
We are entirely run by what the Daily Mail tells us. Voter with the ability to think for themselves are an endangered species. And clearly our fascist regime intends to bring about their extinction.
@Mr. No Name Why?
Why does it feel like the UK is ending up in the same dystopian future as V for Vendetta?
But can we cut straight to the last scene and cut all the rest of this bs
Don't you want the safety they promised you? Lol
Because life imitates art
Sum wise knob once said
Cos Alan Moore is a genius.
Feel like?
I'm genuinely frightened by the way we are going, it's frigging Orwellian I really never thought that we would get to this stage and it's getting worse . Please can we cancel Cancel Culture now .
Everyday. 'Til it's gone. 'Til it's no longer an attractive option for those who use it. Stand.
@Terry Merry Cultural marxism/bolshevism is a nazi trope
@@alexjaybrady hahahaha good one
As someone who would be considered left leaning, cancel culture has gone too far. People jump the gun on people and don’t understand people can change and grow. It’s like people trying to cancel others for an offensive tweet from 10 years ago is just straight up absurdity. People have become so sensitive these days they over look the actual things they should be up and arms about
Agreed. The problem with how far it's gone it's also embolden bigots. By silencing everyone we've given bigots space to comment, when otherwise they'd have been ignored.
Yeah wholeheartedly agree. I’m an asexual and I’ve seen first hand the absurdity in some corners of that community. A one off comment a character made in Brooklyn 99 by a fictional character writen by someone who doesn’t know what the word means sent the community into a cancel frenzy. It’s utter insanity
Same here. I've been a leftie since I was a teenager and still am. Sadly though since the unions were demonised and lost their influence, left wing politics moved from the workplace to the internet. Now they're less interested in wealth inequality and the rights of working people and more interested in gender identity. Or at least that's impression they give and that counts when it comes to getting people to vote.
It goes to show how witch hunts became a thing back in the day. It's sad, actually terrifying, to see history repeating itself.
But apparently if you pull all the statues down that remind of what's gone before it won't happen again!
Back in the day? Witch hunts never went away, only the changed witches to something else after the Holy Inquisition and later the Spanish Inquisition kept proving that witches did nothing wrong.
Burn the with burn the witch 🧙🏻🔥 opps 😱
Offences which have a maximum sentence of ten years... "Cruelty to persons under 16", "Administering poison etc. so as to endanger life", "Possession of firearm without certificate", "Indecent assault on a woman", "Indecent assault on a man".
...And now, drawing a willy on my local statue. Seems fair.
how does graffiti equate to freedom of speech?
@@Chicanery_Artifice freedom of expression? I dunno, but I wouldn't want to do ten years for it. I'll be honest, I don't like people that deface statues, but this is the thin end of a police state wedge.
That'll be criminal damage then
@@Chicanery_Artifice are you really that dense?
What costs the country more? Cleaning a bit of paint off a statue or locking someone up for ten years and looking like draconian scum bags to the rest of the world?
I'd never incite a riot - that would be a criminal act but if anybody else feels like taking one for the team? I'll certainly join a riot.
Yes because destroying homes and businesses will totally get others on your back.
@@Laura-Yu - When injustice becomes the law? there is no other recourse. I lament violence - of course I do - but take away civil liberties? and violence is the inevitable result.
If they don't know what the consequences of such actions would be? I have no pity for them. They SHOULD know, the history books are available to all - and they don't show us the same mercy.
@@Laura-Yu Destroying their money making machine is the only way to send a message.
It's the government buildings that should be targeted.
If 1000 people charge in there they can't shoot all 1000 before they get their hands on the politicians.
The corruption HAS to end. The people have had enough. Blood WILL be spilled.
@@fishmanc5357 Ok well you go first - you're on the front line bud - I promise I'll follow you in shortly after..honest.
@@Franzwithfire right there is the problem.
Boris has now banned nice weather, because it's makes people get together in parks!
It's almost like we have been warning of this for ages.
> Imagine a government so afraid of its people, it takes away their freedom to protest
*cries in Russian*
*cries in Soviet Union*
Тоже поплакал.
Cries in chinese
I'd rather live in Russia than England.
@@rogerking2888 yeah you have no idea what are you talking about. Russian law concerning offending religious beliefs, for example can actually land you a prison sentence up to 3 years. It can be a joke on stand up or social media post.
"If you can't be heard, you can't change things!" That's how those in power want it. They don't want change, the current paradigm has served them perfectly. That's why they're bent on shutting down any form of protest.
Except they're not shutting down protest. If you think that it takes burning things and shouting, have a very close look at the movements Ghandi put in action. Quiet, polite, complete adherence to local laws and considerate of others to the extreme. And they changed the destiny of an Empire.
@@miaulersbirds2210 Sometimes the only effective form of protest is revolt. Look at Myanmar. Do you think quiet protest wasn't attempted after the military coup?
When you are overtaken by dictators who shoot to kill dissenters, that is shutting down protest, is it not?
"Children are to be seen not heard" "Shut up and go to your room" has morphed into "Silence, and go home or else...!"
Been watching this guy low key for years. He's a fkn genius.
Offense cannot be given, it can only be taken.
Garbage
Some people wilfully aim to offend, ergo, it can be given.
You can say anything you want to me, they are only a string of words. It is up to me whether I choose to be offended or not. Who defines that line? Something said to me I may laugh at, the same thing said to someone else may offend them to their core. Offense cannot be given, only taken.
@@nhykoro Unfortunately, due to the nature of this site, we can't test your claim, therefore you also can't back it up by having people say seriously objectionable things to you and seeing your response.
@@nhykoro You are describing HOW you may respond to an offence, so patiently offence CAN be GIVEN. Lets be honest here people can and do give offence. How it should be delt with is a different matter. But to act as if it does not exist is a LIE.
What a surprise conservatives will not want people to protest against them after the way they handled Covid
as pie has pointed out this is coming from the left and the right.
There's 500,000 people who had their right to protest permanently shattered because of Covid. And our government planned it.
@@cdh5397 its all been planned and we have been fleeced by these fuckers.
Yeh but at least we get rid of extinction rebellion fascists 🥰
Worst population to death toll ratio in the world. 22bn for an app that if you just leave your phone at home doesn't track and trace. I Think they have done a great job... at fucking up.
Legend has it, Pie's hairline is so strong, he can have a side parting and a full fringe at the same time
As long as its not a Lunatic Fringe
@@benwilson6145 wittiness is synonymous with the name 'ben' it seems good sir
We’ve always been a country with balls, sadly we are slowly losing them. Laughing stock of the world.
Yeah the only other country with is Australia and New Zealand
@@michaelelohiminnocentmadia8128 Unfortunately Australia is also being emasculated by SJWs and their stupid legal-politico lobbying!!
We always thought we were a country with balls. Reality is we haven't been since the 50s. British failures during WW2 leading to the loss of the empire, Suez, sick man of Europe etc. It all added up.
Naw, Tranada and New Zealand are truly outdoing everyone at the moment.
Isn't having balls deemed toxic nowadays?
It's been scientifically proven that watching every Jonathan Pie's video improves your English vocabulary by 5%
The Police are called to a woman’s house after she’d dial 999 bellowing that a neighbour was exposing himself.
Blues & Twos race there. ‘ He’s upstairs!’ Up they go. ‘Where Madam?’
‘In his bedroom across the street!’
‘But, Madam, he’s behind net curtains...’
‘Stand on this chair, you can see everything!’
JK
That REALLY does sum up the whole ridiculous, farcical situation! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
“He was stood on a chair in his room and then jumped off” (regardless the poor f**ker was hanging himself coz this damn lockdown) i bet they would charge him still with exposure.
(By the way i dnt know this story, i simply predicted a situation that today is so possible)
"Who needs the law when you have Twitter?"
Brilliant, Jonathan.
It does look like the whole world is building up to something and it will explode soon.
It's heading towards changes against the old, terrible social order. So yeah, explode is probably right
The dodo is about to hit the fan environmentally, carbon has only accelerated a natural disaster cycle and while were all thinking we can prevent it, some are looking at how they can survive it. Bunker down and replace the workers with machines while they die topside. Sounds paranoid? Look into the science, it's obfuscated but the data is there I believe. I hope I'm crazy.
Unlike the revolutions in communist countries in the late 80s, there is nothing to replace our current system. No greater power to take over, slice and dice entire countries, and take whatever they want. You should have seen the idiots yelling in the streets after the capitalists took over. "THEY WILL GIVE US FREE FOOD, FREE HOUSES, FREE ELECTRICITY, FREE GAS, FREE CARS". While expensive foreign cars popped out seemingly over night filled with businessmen doing great deals for them. LOL. People are paying rent to western landlords. Many of them are unemployed and dirt poor right now. Some old homeless guy was saying he used to work at a local beer factory before the revolution, now shut down. Makes sense. Now we import beer from the west.
Look at the "revolution" in the US of A. Burning down government buildings, taking over neighborhoods, rioting for months in the streets, cops/ soldiers firing into crowds. They went as far as storming the Capitol. It then just fizzled out as there was no greater power to take over. Or the HK "revolution". Unless there is a greater power to take over a revolution is not a revolution.
There will be no change in power. There is no other power on this planet. We are globalized. This is the new world order. You better get used to it. Why am I even typing this? Didn't I just listen to Pie? I will probably get sent to jail or cancelled for this comment. Ah fuck it. #YOLO.
This channel is the ‘speak easy” of the 2020s. Somewhere (currently) safe to be a normal human being, thanks matey.
Yeah bruther this is literally 1972 animal crossing by jim orman
It's nothing out of the ordinary though. It sucks but humans have a history of doing way worse to each other. Actually quite barbaric and brutal in biblical times.
so because im autistic im not welcome here?
too bad that there isnt a larger organization that could do something about that. something like a union of nations. oh well...
You mean some kind of organization that can do absolutely nothing against the will of, say, one its five founder nations?
@@leahsander5490 I think he was talking about the EU
@@alexquin4001 clearly his reply went over your head
@@alexquin4001 Oh, yeah, that makes sense as well. However, it's not like the EU is doing a ton to reign in other nations.
"The UN is the socially accepted platform of public hatred" Nelson Mandela
"If we are judged and convicted because of our words, then we become criminals because of the opinions we express. If this is how it is going to be, then the law stops being law and becomes a tool of tyranny."
So catholics in northern Ireland protested and expressed their concerns and they where shot dead arrested and sent to prison without trial sexualy abused kids shot with rubber bullets etc etc and that was all jolly ol england so not suprised when they do anything anymore
I need this man in charge. He says how I feel so well.
I know right. I do form my own opinions, but my political compass and opinions align so well with him. Makes me glad to see I'm not the only one out there with opinions like that. Though I do very much respect other peoples opinions.
Pies audience, right or left, should agree on one thing - freedom of speech!!
The whole notion of left vs right is just a method to keep us divided and unable to fight the real people in power.
Fb doesn't like freedom of speech.. the amount of times my account has been restricted because of something I've typed.. 🤣 its quite sad.
@EmptyShell01 Honestly, I think I may have lost some brain cells reading that lol
For decades, the accusation Conservatives levelled at liberals was that we were hyper-sensitive, and desperate to be offended. That left to our own devices we would create a culture that strangled free speech in a misguided effort to protect people.
It lessened as a talking point over time as Conservatism grew more monstrous, but never quite went away.
We should all be *very* wary of doing anything that proves Conservatives right.
Well they’re doing a great job of it on their own so far
The Left is hyper sensitive and unbelievably censorious. Just because the Right are Authoritarian, doesn't mean your shit doesn't stink too.
We need a third choice.
The forty odd thousand people who complained are the type of people who will watch things they wouldn't normally watch just so they can complain about it.
"People should not be afraid of their government, government should be afraid of their people"
V., 2005
True
They already are, this new bill is proof of that!
There is nothing to be afraid of from a bunch of docile losers who just want to sit around and get free shit from government. That's why a lot of people are still onboard with this lockdown nonsense and consequent loss of businesses - they're comfortable enough and they're not starving. That, and the way they have framed the concept of freedom in their mind.
How many people have you heard say "I can't wait to get my vaccine so I can be given my freedom back!"? What do you mean "given"... It is not something they should be allowed to take away, but people don't want sovereignty and freedom, they want to be coddled and given free things. And they want others to pick up the tab for it.
Knob
@@Kuk0san lmfao what are you on about you donkey
One of the more difficult things about this is that it's an invisible enemy. It's not just one person responsible but a mad collective that can't be taken down.
@Noname Noname one day it may have to come to that
Its not that it cannot be taken down, its what do you replace it with? pretty much everyone says "bring down the government", but they will be too lazy to stand up to take over if they ever did. all people want is for someone else to sort the issue out for them.
These are criminals, just look into their lives, and see what turns up!
True - that puts all of us in the frame. All it takes for evil to win is for good people to remain silent.
The whole state and the economic oligarchy have to be taken down, a brand new radically democratic society must be established from bottom up. That's a Revolution.
"I see armies of keyboard warriors with their CAPS Lock in overdrive". This is precious and very accurate description of these days.
@Noname Noname 👍👍👍👍💥
I could make quite a bit of cash if I sold keyboards that only type in caps
Jonathan Pie used to make amusing observations. Now he's the go to person for a miserable summary of UK life.
I'm surprised he hasn't had a visit by the Non-Crimes Unit of our thought police yet. It must surely be coming.
We are infants in the age of social media, is it any surprise we are tearing each other apart.
Im afraid we are going to burn ourselves to the ground before we learn to live with social media like adults.
I would enjoy watching the world tear itself apart. Sounds fun
@@SamuelBlack84 But then you realise that you love in the world
@@staszekr03 Barely, I'm an outsider
Social media is opt-in psychological warfare against yourself. We might eventually learn to live with it but for now the best you can do is protect yourself from it.
“I’m offended that you’re offended!” Steve Hughs. Look up his comedy on this - too funny.
"I was at the comedy show and the man made made a joke about the Lord! And i was offended! The next morning, i woke up and i had leprosy!"
He’s one of my favourites! An absolute legend, I miss his stuff
I solved the cancel culture problem by watching my Carry On movies boxset and Blazing Saddles repeatedly
But don't you see it raises the problem of sex?
As well as reading huckleberry Finn
I'm thinking History of the World pt 1
In this regard it's worth remembering the words of Lord Sumption: ''our status as a free society doesn't actually depend on our laws or our constitution, it depends on convention. It depends on a collective instinct as to the right way to behave''.
@Cancer McAids here is the exact quote from John Adams, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
It's worrying that people seem more worried about being banned from Twitter than banned from protesting against their government.
Yes, thank you! So many right wingers think they’re oppressed because they get called out for the offensive shit they say, meanwhile the government is introducing a law directly in response to protests from the left in an attempt to silence them. It’s infuriating.
I was banned from Twitter twice for suggesting capital punishment should return for corrupt officials.
Ironic seeing as Twitter is US based where they have capital punishment.
@@icatfishedyourdad2767 you can continue to pretend that we don't live in a digital age but we do. Monopolies are bad period.
"They never went away, they just got themselves a decent broadband connection" lmao Jonathan never quit
Let's go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all this to blow over....oh yeah we can't.
You've got red on you, Howard
I'll stop doing them when you stop laughing. Oh, and dogs can't look up.
"The path to hell is paved with good intentions..."
I'm giving you a standing ovation, Jonathan. It seems the Ministry of Truth is becoming real and Winston Smith is hard at work deleting words for a more inclusive Newspeak.
Jim Orman warned us about this. It's like 1972 animal crossing
'Dear Sir, I must complain in the strongest possible terms'... what Officer, me, I'm just writing a letter to the editor of The Times... what do you mean I must now accompany you down to the station... I was just writing a letter...
I think the right and left can unite over a mutual common interest against the establishment and the ongoing curtailing of free expression and other civil liberties. Individuals need to be FREE first then we can have our disagreements from there.
Not going to happen.
you're forgetting that the majority voted for the tories. This won't happen
@@Sebaz.
@@ComicGladiator there’s nothing tribalist about acknowledging the left and right fundamentally disagree on what freedom is, what freedoms you should have and how to achieve it. Not to mention that the terms “left” and “right” are both such broadchurches that even within themselves they don’t agree.
The right to protest does not give the right to destroy people's livelihoods, to burn people's property, More to take people's lives.
"CAPS LOCK ON OVERDRIVE!" loooool that was the funniest thing ever
Piers orchestrated that exit to make himself more attractive as a bad boy for potential job offers.
I can see him getting a job with Shapiro or Crowder
@@matthewmalham9539 he will fit in brilliantly with those scumbags
@@matthewmalham9539 shapiro? Piers is a prat but he's not an idiot. Ben Shapiro is as thick as two short planks. He thinks taking fast is the equivalent of being smart, he just talks twice as much shit
@@mantistoboggan5171 He definitely seems like a Shapiro guy. But back when he used to work for CNN of all news networks he grilled Shapiro so I'm unsure. Either way he's getting a contract with either a right-wing network or commentator. My money's on Fox News in a few months
Pie on point as ever. And what will the UK public do? Turn over and watch Goggle Box.
Same in Australia. :(
That's a cynical inaccurate view of the British peo.... Oooo, hang on, The Crown's on telly!
@@alanmoss3603 :D :D :D brillinat!!
They'll pop over to the Daily Mail and read more lies.
Protesting is deemed to be acceptable as long as it is seen not to be effective.
Thank you Pie! 🙏🏼
I feel that all over 50 year olds should take to the streets and protest snd apologise to our screwed up country for the dangerously deranged government and society we have created! We need some 60s style protests countrywide! I feel like being truly loud and offensive!
Never have there been more protests than today.
Well, last Friday I guess.
The difference is that in the 1960s protests were rare, and were widely reported.
Nowadays most protests aren't reported anymore. The biggest protests aren't reported anymore.
Not just because they can become so frequent, and so frequented, but also because of what they protest.
Probably one of the most important videos you've ever done.
"Down with this sort of thing"...."Be Careful".
"Equilibrium" is slowly becoming REALITY! No human emotions in fear of offending someone!
Anybody remember "The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, ('The party killer')", The youth turned to Simon Cowell for cultural guidance, who supplied "Zig and Zag", "Robson and Jerome", and "The Power Rangers" among many other classic acts. The British music industry was saved! And thats the 90's explained.
🤣 the youth did not turn to Simon cowell. Not any I know anyway.
@@hoonaticbloggs5402 Well I was half joking, but a bloody great chunk of them must have. If I log out of YT, He pretty much spams the screen.
Tbf with the meghan markle thing he claimed she was lying about her mental health without any sort of proof. A statement like that discourages those who struggle with certain conditions from getting help. Piers Morgan should be held accountable for that claim.
So the suffering of the poor and dinsinfranchised are used to legittimate the power plays of the upper class.
@@giacomobandini969 I'm saying Piers Morgan harassing and calling meghan markle a liar could cause others with mental difficulties to not come out as they may worry they will be accused of lying. This isn't about legitimising her row between the royal family.
And I m saying that Markle's behaviour may encourage others to fire whatever sort of unproved accusation against anyone, just as long they said that they have felt suicidal or suffering or whatever.
"without any sort of proof" - Proof? No, but Morgan did know her personally, didn't he? So his opinion is at least based on his assessment of her character, as opposed to 99.999% of all the other opinions on social media.
@@gagatube hmm he went on a date with her and she rejected him and he quite clearly couldn't take it so chose to go on a tirade against her at every opportunity.
The problem is not the right to air your opinion: the problem is not having the ability to challenge those opinions with the same force and media spread as those people such as Morgan.
His co-hosts were able to challenge his opinions and did.
Thailand has a law that criminalises criticism of the Monarch. The Tories are inexorably moving in this direction. UK citizens will not have the legal power for political protest. Then the Torie will have what they desire which is a right wing dictatorship such as that which is practiced in countries like Poland , Brazil and Belarus.