I'm sorry sure if they come from behind cause they spawned there then yeah they'll fuck you up but they are not that dangeros. I rather fight them in a hord then the nursing spewer
Bro these things spon in 50 at a time on high difficulty and you can die from 4 of them making it to you. This should be in the death section. Them being easy to kill is the biggest lie in the game.
Gotta say I dismissed hunters for a long time but since playing in the top two difficulty settings or so, they are probably the number one things besides teammates and meteor showers that kill me.
Hunters kill me by far the most out of every enemy. Surprisingly tanky for their size, extremely mobile, slow, acid, and they really love getting random crits on you so you die in 2 hits
I put rocket troopers right up there with rocket devistators. I call them "rocket snipers" becasue they manage to one shot me from crazy distances anytime I don't see them first.
The shield devastators are by far the scariest to me. Their shield is so effective itll block explosions so you have to follow up with more firepower immediately or it was essentially for nothing. Add to that their glitchiness as they can shoot through downed bot drops, perfectly follow you in a glitched t-pose of sorts where they dont even have to turn their arm let along body, and their body itself being heavily armored.... Hell, ive seen them WALK UP RADIO TOWERS so they can shoot down over your cover. THEY WALK UP THE RADIO TOWERS AND UP 89° WALLS. Death semtence for sure
I swear I've seen a rocket trooper fire a flare before. I might be wrong and I really hope I am but i think any of the basic automaton troopers can call in a flare, commissars just have a higher chance to.
It's true but it's not supposed to be. Had a flame hulk shoot a flare on me before and I just left the mission since it was the last unit and I wasn't doing that again
the Automatons can ALL cause massive damage if not approached accordingly. -Troopers come with numbers, and if not taken out quick they call reinforcement -Jet troopers explode in your face if you let them close! -Rocket troopers snipe you with their rocket launchers -Berserkers and Basic Devastators have so much armor they are impossible to ignore up close ...and everything else beside those i listed i straight up prefer to drop an orbital laser on, because they are not worth the direct engagement!
I have died to the heavy Devastator so many times. The fast firing rate, couple with the shield made them quite terrifying until the Quasar cannon was introduced. I had to train myself to be good with the sniper rifle to hit the head in that little window behind the sheild. It certainly made the fights more fun.
the heavy devastator is the most annoying type of enemy imo. 1v1 is fine, but they come in groups of 5 and have way too high dps and take 2 quasar shots
I personally would of swap the stalkers and hunters from category, for many reasons: -Normally a stalker cloak works against it in most terrains and you can see them from far away. -They are bigger, meaning their head is bigger, killing them is not really an issue most of the time. -If you dive whent hey are going to attack you, all thet it's going cause, is send you flying away while doing no damage, their tongue don't hurt, only their arms do (they still slow ofc) -Once you destroy the nest, they are no longer a threat. -Outside of high level missions i don't really find stalkers packs to be of more than 2-3 (i've seen packs of 6-7 on helldive difficulty), and the rate of spawn makes them somewhat managable once you notice the threat. Nothing of that applies to hunters, you don't know where are they are going to come from, they come in huge waves, they are everywere, and there is no definitive way to stop them, worst of all, they jump so much, you might miss a shoot entirely and all that is going to cause is to slightly damage them instead of actually taking care of the threat, meaning you are going to end up wasting more bullets for an other cause fodder enemy, that what it needs, so it also hurts your ego.
@@DownloadableContent That's just because we all become desensitized to hunters by the time youre playing the red difficulties. The hunter deaths stop standing out when they just become the norm, and anyone playing on red difficulty bug missions just start assuming that, at every single moment, they are surrounded on all sides by hunters.
The Hunters are defiantly in the "death" category for me they always catch me when I'm fighting something else or get jumped by a pack of them and slowed before being ripped apart. With the rocket troopers I swear they were stealth buffed because I kept being sniped by them during the mech liberation.
The Heavy Devastator (shield devastator in your video) are a bit of death. You can die to them, get dropped back in on your stuff, miss the pod kill on them and the moment you're out of that pod, they're already aware of you, they're facing you, and they're gunning you down and you don't have any say in it. It's kind of true with any enemy horde, but rocket and heavy devastators are the 2 that are the most egregious out of the "common enemies." Laser turrets and cannon tanks are the next ones of if you get dropped in the wrong spot you get put in a death loop. It may seem like it's not worth it and is a bit of meta, but use the punisher against stalkers. The reason for the punisher and not the slugger is because the spread of the pellets means you're going to hit it with general accuracy and it's going to keep getting stun locked and pushed away from you as long as you keep hitting it and after a few shots, it will de-cloak itself. It's the best weapon that can reliably deal with stalkers individually that I know of that isn't a stratagem. The other option that I know of is to take a tesla tower with you. The tesla tower will strike enemies regardless if they're cloaked or not. And since it's presenting a threat, Stalkers become torn between you and the tower as priorities. So you can usually get them to attack the tower long enough for you to catch your breath, reload, and also scan around to see if you see anymore. It's a very niche solution, but it's something I've found to work.
honestly for me in terms of the terminids i put bile spewer, hunter, and stalker at death because out of every enemy i have faced they are the only ones that cause me physical pain
If you can clear out the little guys near flame hulks, then you can just run close rings around them. They wont fire their flamethrower if you're that close and will try to hit you with their blade hand, which basically never hits. Then have a teammate hit them while their spinning around
Let myself percolate on this for a bit to contemplate the tier list and my own experience on Helldiver difficulty, and after completing every achievement and almost fully upgrading my Super Destroyer... Hunters are by and far *the worst* enemies in the game, and I hate having to deal with them. I run the Punisher because it forces the little freaks to back off if it doesn't one-shot them, and it's almost mandatory on any bug-hunt I take. It is the only weapon that I *Deliberately* bring specifically because it effectively deals with these bastards without having reload downtimes that let them pounce me, because even if I have to reload because there's one or two left from the hoard I can literally just fire the shell I just loaded and it's dead, or whip the secondary to finish them off before doing a full reload. Goodbye Samples at minimum, and only if you're getting spammed by the damned things. Rest of the list is pretty good.
@@DownloadableContent agreed. Too many people hide behind the Railgun using single player logic and end up panicking because they see multiple Chargers and instead of trusting their team try to mentally fighting all of them rather than thinking of how to either bait the chargers or damage them as a teammate does.
@@DownloadableContent Wel even with the flamethrower buff it still takes an entire magazine to kill 1 charger now imagne six running after you. The buff is great however there are now way to little ways to kill heavy armored guys
@@pierceromeyn8433 That's where the mechs being added will alleviate that issue for the most part, you still have to be smart about it using the mech though.
The Automaton with the dual rocket launcher on its shoulders is pretty easy to avoid. You can run sideways and he will miss with his rockets with a very high chance. Unlike the cannon fodder bots with their single rocket launcher. They aim in the direction where you will run and they hit with a very high chance. A friend told me that today while playing. It's really true!
helldivers tking with eagle airstrikes or bombardments, because they have the throwing arm of a premature baby, and always drop it right on the team. SS-tier.
You should now add the Factory Strider to the list as "Death." Cannon Turret on top, ridiculously fast Gatling guns on the front, and---the most lethal danger--they're a walking Devastator Fabricator. They'll drop Devastators in serious numbers. Orbital Rail Cannon strike, Orbital Laser, Autocannon Turrets, Eagle Air Strike, and Orbital Strike combined have to be used to take these walking fabricators down. They do have very small weak points on the back of the legs, but can be very difficult to reach.
Rocket troopers used to have perfect accuracy on me when I first started playing the game. Now less so, but they're also one of my high priority targets. Shield Devastators have probably been my highest death count to automatons, that or the rocket devastors. They're also a bit more annoying for me as they showed the full nerf to the rail gun. The rail gun unsafe mode used to penetrate the shield with about 60% charge, now it can't pierce through at all. Hunters are my highest death count for terminids. When they swarm and stun lock its awful. Their jump attack also does damage. The slow. Also for some reason has a small range attack in case you get out of claw range.
Because the Mortar Towers are a secondary objective, (if I'm not mistaken) you get a Hellbomb to blow them up so don't waste an Airstrike or even any grenades
Nothing on the bugs side kills me more than a group of 8-12 hunters. Part of my load-out is always the question, what are we going to do against the groups of hunters? They are the biggest threat on the map. The bile spewer elite comes next, they can kill you artillery style easily if you focus on anything else. .
Honestly the berserkers are walking grenades/flame throwers. Not in how they deal damage, but what their role is, which is to force you out of cover. Also I swear it feels like they take reduced damage from all sources because I can rip a devastator in half with a railgun reliably, but these things take so many hits
Hunters go above bile titans. You can run towards a titan and dodge its spit and when underneath it focus other bugs while making sure not to get stepped on. It will even on occasion crush a charger for you. With hunters the moment the gap is closed or they spawn on you there is very little you can do. Their lunge has a soft lock-on so you can dodge them and they will just redirect midair to you which is usually a head shot or crit and if one is close enough the others are close enough. They can rapidly attack while matching your sprinting speed and all hits slow you removing the main thing that keeps you alive in this game. To make things worst their tongue will actually lock-on to you so you can't dodge it to the side you have to dodge away leaving you on the ground unable to stand because you still got hit anyways and now your slowed. When you see a helldiver being swarmed by bugs don't help him by picking off the big guys. Help him by picking off the hunters. With them dead he can definitely handle the rest
Oh I felt that ngl there was like 6 hunters on me 1 jumped and hit me I lost like 80% hp and healed into insta slow and i was lucky since my teammate saw how much there was and killed them since like any other bug I easily can kill its the hunters that if there is 3 to 5 up they will instantly kill you
The reason why i always go with rover guard dog and defender smg against bugs is to specifically deal with hunters With the rover and smg i can run away while thinning them down
Once I had a mission with 3 stalker lairs. I have a screenshot somewhere where there is 16 of those nightmare mantis on the screen, targeting me and me alone.
The most deadly to me are: 1. Flamer hulk 2. Rocket Devastator 3. Jetpack trooper Hunters are deadly but I always waste my impacts on them if there are too many. I think stalkers are worse.
Bile spewers and stalkers are usually what I get killed by the most, but I don’t play above difficulty 6 so this might be a bit biased. The new flying bugs can be quite annoying as well especially since they can 1 shot you and their physics currently are pretty weird. The chargers would be a lot more deadly if they didn’t get their pathing bugged half the time. A lot of the time when I encounter them they just get bugged and stand still.
Short of getting careless around bile spewers, the sole reason I die to any bugs weaker than stalkers/shriekers is because Hunters pounce on me and slow me down for the rest of the swarm. They hinder your movement at the exact point in time when you most urgently need to relocate.
I’ve had so many missions where I’m just absolutely SWARMED by hunters, like I’m talking in the 40’s or 50’s with little-to-nothing I can do about it. I personally put them in the death category since they just stick to you like glue and is amplified when there are a TON of them.
I’m glad I’m not the only one debating between goodbye samples and Death tier for the hunters, I clicked on the videos to see if I was the only one who thought that
Hunters are super easy to deal with if you run the rover drone, a lot of people crutch on the shield backpack to keep them from getting hit by projectiles to which I counter by saying just don't run in on 5 bile spewers and you won't have a problem. The shield also increases your hitbox size so a lot of the time it just soaks up damage that you wouldn't have taken anyway even if you didn't dodge or anything especially on bugs. Chargers are also super easy to deal with, just use any of the shoulder mounted rocket launchers and blow their face off (aim for the big top plate, if you hit lower it won't kill) and it's a one shot or if you hit one of their legs you strip the armor and can shoot out their legs to instantly kill.
Honestly I only have like 40 hrs in the game and I know my opinion has no weight on the subject with the amount of time I have played but the hunter is crazy especially at higher levels when there is so much going on and there are so many of them and getting as many as you can only does so much until you have to reload and continually try and dodge 20-30 of them while being slowed it’s definitely good bye samples
If you’re dealing with just 1-3 hunters on your ass but don’t have a second to stim or reload, I’ve found that a melee strike will stunlock them usually long enough to at least heal. If you don’t need to heal or reload then it’s also a good way to keep them still for a headshot.
lately after having the Scorcher and figuring out i am faster then a hulk turning i just do the stupidest thing you can think of and try to get in as close as possible to do laps around them to shoot their vent. If you have other players to distract them it really works. Problem is that if you do kill it that way, you best run before it blows up. But the enemy i have the hardest time with and the one that's killed me the most is usually bile titans because my stratagem's are on cooldown But Hunters and Stalkers are my least favourite enemies to deal with period.
Bile titans aren’t too bad if your team has properly diversified their load outs. If your swarm killer and multi-tool are keeping the hunter/bile spewer spam at bay, your tank killers can go for a double headshot to knock it out quickly. The problem comes when everyone focuses on the titan and forgets about killing trash. Then, not only do the tank killers die to trash, but the trash keeps calling in reinforcements, leading to more and more bile titans and chargers showing up.
Once melted a horde of 100 enemies with the flamethrower... All 100 enemies out of a bug breech gone. A minute later I get wombo fucking comboed by a single hunter and go from full health to dead without a single chance to stim or shoot. I love hunters and theyre so fun to fight.
Hi, soldier from the Troost front. Anyone who thinks the Minigun devastator is less than death, is a fool. Cause you try and tell me these fucks aren't the most annoying and irritating enemies on earth. Cause the backpack (and the head but well, shield) is the weak point, but you gotta get behind them. And these fucks are the only bot to know to ALWAYS face the helldiver.
A group of them walking at my team in a phalanx just shredded us in a second. We were getting flanked by everything else while pinned by those damn shielded bastards
They can be easily sniped in a single headshot from most support weapons and 1-3 shots from basic rifles and pistols. If they have friends just use the ol' reliable ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
2:45 you can also take them down with the EAT17 though, so even lower levels shouldnt fear them to much if its at a distance. thats how i took down my first titan at least. lower difficulty though so there was only 1 titan.
Elite Bile Spewers are the only enemy i consider unfair and BS in this game, because of everything that i will list next: 1- They have very high health 2- They have armor so light primary weapons are off the table (Liberator Penetrator does too little damage so it dosent work for them as i attempted) 3- Shotguns can do damage to them, good luck getting close to them 4- Their damage is absurd and the tracking feels like an TF2 Sniper bot which nobody in any squad i joined is able to dodge them once. 5- In high difficulties like 6-9 more than 20 can appear in one sole bug breach. 6- Because of the mention before, using anti tank weapons on them like Eats or Recoiless is an bad move because you would require so many of them, and because they can actually tank it unlike chargers (Like wtf). 7- If you leave them alone, they will start bombarding you, which gets extremely dumb when more than 10 start doing it nonstop. 8- And when they appear, that also means the little ones that also spit it, make you slower which makes them even more annoying to deal with spewers when those ones always will appear with the spewers. Just because of them i cant complete an full operation of level 7 if they at least appear once in the enemy pool, so either skill issue, or im just not using the correct weapons or stratagems since most of them are for dealing with bile titans and chargers while my team takes care of the lil medium ones although i can pull my weight if needed
For the bugs a single enemy isn't that bad. It is when there are multiple of the same that they become an issue like the hunters stun chaining for a slow death.
what bugs me most is the shield inconsistency of Shield devastators, you can COMPLETELY see their heads from side and 60% of my shots will STILL bounce off. if that wasnt the case they'd be pesky at best
Hunters are good bye samples or just death because they come in packs, if they weren't so common in groups I would agree with you. Maybe a skill issue thing for me but yeah thats my two cents.
Since when did bile titans move “slow” you are slower than them if you are wearing heavy armour while you sprint and when you wear medium armour you are the same speed as them while running
Hunters are the most underestimated enemy in the game, most of my deaths are between them and my own teammates lol. The most overrated is the charger, never understood why people fear them. They may be able to outrun you but can't outmaneuver you. You don't even need to dive to dodge them, just run in a circle around them. Run around as they charge, ignore them and kill other enemies then doge again, 3 auto cannon shots to the tail done. Never caused me a problem except when they blindside you while not paying attention. Even so, even with light armor they rarely kill in one hit so I'd put them in pesky at most.
I find myself dying to chargers far more then stalkers when I fight the bugs. They can be a pain because it’s not uncommon to have multiple on screen on the higher difficulties.
The best thing I found with chargers is to kite them like a raid boss, making sure to kill the adds around it finger, while dodging them in a C like pattern
Chargers are one of the easiest enemy to deal with IMO. i've been an EAT main just because of how effective it is at neutralizing them and bile titans, Pathing them is very simple as well.
Reminder that titans still have ten times as much health with a PC host versus on Playstation, even though every other enemy has the same HP on both platforms.
The rocket devestators are the most annoying enemies in the game especially when you spawn in a walker and when the rocket devestators spot you its bye bye
"The railgun in unsafe mode" wait what? I didn't realize the railgun was made by voxtec (hazbin hotel). Tbh, I haven't used the railgun yet, and am mainly using the arc thrower
Bile titan is everything but slow. It can keep up with sprinting players, as soon as the player run out stamina it catches up usually within 4 seconds and start stomping. 2:56
It's like he hasn't even played the game, first mixing up nursing spewers and bile spewers, and then telling people that Brood Commanders are alive after their head is shot off. (They aren't alive, they just have a final burst of energy. You can dodge once and ignore them and they will not keep coming, thus, dead.)
Had en entire elite bile spewer wave on me, was legit impossible to kill them without dying at least 3 times because of how many of them shoot me at once and in HD2 fashion, 3 more waves of them came and almost wiped my entire team but we barely made it somehow and got all the objectives done and samples secure. ALWAYS MAKE SURE THEY'RE HIGH PRIORITY OR THEY WILL SLAUGHTER YOU!(Unless hunters and stalkers are on you, then immediately rush kill the nests or all three of them will instakill you)
Why is everyone complaining about hunters? Are y'all really getting jumped out the blue? You can check the mini map or use the laser drone if you're worried about getting sunk up on. Bile spewers or any that can slow you down is more likely to cause a death spiral. Now if y'all said bc the slow effect from bile, hunters finish me off; I'd believe that
hunters are for me way more dangerous then stalkers Stalkers are the easiest unit to see in the game because their "invisibility" shines like a star xD and they are often alone and no biggy you can just destroy their nest ... stalkers ... if u have no shield ur dead ... they at LEAST "goodbye samples" but i put them in "death" i honestly thing that they are the most dangerous thing the bugs has YES not a single one, not even 5 of them, but when shit goes down u have chargers and bile titans and you run ... its them who circle you, them who slow you, and them who kill you
Bile Spewer definitely deserves Might Hurt instead of Goodbye Samples. Yes, they have a faster and more deadly spit, they have way more HP and are harder to take down then normal Spewers and combined with a Charger can, it seems, be an instant death sentence. But you didnt mention that they share the exact same weakness as the Nursing Spewers: One grenade instant gibs them. As long as your team is alert no Bile Spewer should survive first contact. Even if theyre right up next to you, just dive away backwards while throwing an impact at them to instant kill.
My vote for Bile Titans should be Goodbye Samples or Death. You pretty much just said that as soon as you bring the railgun or, lol, drop in on them with the hellpods, they become trivial. My response to that is that anytime an enemy is tough enough to force me to change my loadout, that’s a tough enemy. For bugs, I usually find the grenade launcher is what I bring with me since they usually attack in melee hordes. With the rest of my loadout being either crowd control like sentries and eagles or support like the guard dogs. When on higher difficulties I will almost always change my loadout with either railguns or EATs to counter them. As for the individual merits of the titan, I find what you said to just be wrong. The titans are not ‘slow’, they walk faster than the helldiver can sprint, they are incredibly armored, and they spew bile that’s way worse than the traditional spewer. Also how did you not mention the one defining feature of the Hunter and that’s that they leap at you? It makes the fight far harder. Not trying to be rude but the video did come off as a veteran player ‘flexing’ a bit, trivializing many of the more traditional and harder enemies like Hunters and Titans.
For lower level players the bile titan is definitely a scary thing to see on your screen but once you get good stratigems and you start playing on the high difficulties they arent that bad. I mean on high difficulties you get chargers constantly along with the bile spewers so almost everyone already has weapons to take them down and those are the same that take the bile titan down. Plus the 500kg eagle strike is almost in everyone’s loadout so someone is bound to have something to kill it almost instantly. Honestly the biggest thing the titan does on the last few difficulties is that when they appear everyone focuses on it for a few seconds and that gives the horde of smallers bugs a chance to kill you.
In the midst of a heated battle, with gunfire and explosions ringing in your ears, two words can bring even the bravest Helldiver to their knees. Two words that evoke fear and dread in equal measure. Two words that conjure up images of a colossal, unstoppable force lumbering towards you with a single purpose - to crush you and your comrades. Bile. Titan. A towering behemoth covered in thick, armoured plates, a force to be reckoned with. Its massive size and strength make it nearly impossible to take down, and its acidic bile can melt through even the toughest armour. The mere sight of it on the battlefield is enough to strike fear into the hearts of even the most battle-hardened Helldivers. But despite the terror they inspire, Helldivers know that they cannot back down from a fight. They will do whatever it takes to take down these monsters, even if it means risking their own lives in the process. With their weapons at the ready and their hearts filled with courage, they march forward to face the Bile Titans head-on, determined to emerge victorious in the end, for the sake of Managed Democracy, for the sake of Freedom, for the sake of Super Earth.
Hunters are honestly the scariest Terminid enemy
fr bro
especially in swarms
Jumpin around licken everyone
I swear bro I wear the generator shield pack solely so I don’t get pissed off when I get swarmed by them
For me it’s stalkers, in big numbers it’s fucking terrifying
I rank them by how much my blood pressure goes up when I see them so Stalker and Hunter packs are in nightmare fuel tier for me
Use a one of the pump action shotguns on stalkers and they won’t e much of a problem anymore
Hunters straight in the death category, most underrated enemy in the game. a pack will sneak up on you and there is nothing you can do
I'm sorry sure if they come from behind cause they spawned there then yeah they'll fuck you up but they are not that dangeros.
I rather fight them in a hord then the nursing spewer
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 I don't know what your talking about bruv. Spitters are easy compared to hunters
@@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 why don't the nursing skewers stop spawning
Bro these things spon in 50 at a time on high difficulty and you can die from 4 of them making it to you. This should be in the death section. Them being easy to kill is the biggest lie in the game.
@@pkkiller_apathy4568 Without a shield and with a light armor it's a 2 hit, sometimes even 1 for some reason. I hate hunters
First time I saw a Hulk I just went "Nah." and dropped a strike on top of it. lmao
Hahaha
@@DownloadableContentYou're going to have to make a new video soon
Me when Factory Strider was hiding behind a building (i thought the turret was on my side to protect the civilians)
Gotta say I dismissed hunters for a long time but since playing in the top two difficulty settings or so, they are probably the number one things besides teammates and meteor showers that kill me.
Yes they are pure evil
Hunters went straight to Death category ever since the spawn rate change made you fight 20 of them every engagement.
Yellow one is a “Nursing Spewer”
Green one is a “Bile Spewer”
Bro does not play the game 💀
@@michaelenz7039He's right tho
@@Kinghagedis yeah, I’m not referring to the commenter I’m referring to the video
Imagine getting your run ended right as you're about to extract because of "tongue"
😁
Don't have to imagine
Step 1 - Equip marksman armour
Step 2 - Don't fucking die from a single rocket.
Step 3 - Profit
it's that slowing effect that always gets me
Fax
Hunters literally the reason that any other bug catches up puts them at “Death” if they catch you off guard
@@gangsterguardsman4576when they’re in groups they can back to back stun lock you leaving you with no chance to survive
Hunters kill me by far the most out of every enemy. Surprisingly tanky for their size, extremely mobile, slow, acid, and they really love getting random crits on you so you die in 2 hits
I put rocket troopers right up there with rocket devistators. I call them "rocket snipers" becasue they manage to one shot me from crazy distances anytime I don't see them first.
lol they definitely get lucky
The shield devastators are by far the scariest to me. Their shield is so effective itll block explosions so you have to follow up with more firepower immediately or it was essentially for nothing. Add to that their glitchiness as they can shoot through downed bot drops, perfectly follow you in a glitched t-pose of sorts where they dont even have to turn their arm let along body, and their body itself being heavily armored....
Hell, ive seen them WALK UP RADIO TOWERS so they can shoot down over your cover. THEY WALK UP THE RADIO TOWERS AND UP 89° WALLS. Death semtence for sure
I swear I've seen a rocket trooper fire a flare before. I might be wrong and I really hope I am but i think any of the basic automaton troopers can call in a flare, commissars just have a higher chance to.
Agreed. I'm sure I've had a transport called on me by a normal troop more than once.
because tehy all can
Most bots besides like hulks and tanks can call in reinforcements, some just do it more than others like the commissar and random troopers
literally watched one right in front of me fire off a flare then hit me in the head with a rocket 😂
It's true but it's not supposed to be. Had a flame hulk shoot a flare on me before and I just left the mission since it was the last unit and I wasn't doing that again
Hunter should be at least "kiss good bye to your samples" in low numbers as they usually pawn, but "death" if you have more than 5 in your tail....
For Hunters I recommend you switch to your side arm and hip fire. That way you still have some speed and way of killing them. Works for me.
That’s a good tip!
Tbh depends on your primary, and if you’re not using the revolver
Yeah thats true
Honestly my lil trusty uzi becomes my best friend when i get swarmed
Bring the SMG primary and you can shoot behind yourself while running away
Breaker shotgun still works wonders against hunters imo.
Often times I chew a pack of hunters into like 2-3 hunters with breaker in one mag.
the Automatons can ALL cause massive damage if not approached accordingly.
-Troopers come with numbers, and if not taken out quick they call reinforcement
-Jet troopers explode in your face if you let them close!
-Rocket troopers snipe you with their rocket launchers
-Berserkers and Basic Devastators have so much armor they are impossible to ignore up close
...and everything else beside those i listed i straight up prefer to drop an orbital laser on, because they are not worth the direct engagement!
I have died to the heavy Devastator so many times. The fast firing rate, couple with the shield made them quite terrifying until the Quasar cannon was introduced. I had to train myself to be good with the sniper rifle to hit the head in that little window behind the sheild. It certainly made the fights more fun.
the heavy devastator is the most annoying type of enemy imo. 1v1 is fine, but they come in groups of 5 and have way too high dps and take 2 quasar shots
crazy how my favorite blade and sorcery youtuber is also becoming my favorite helldivers youtuber
Hell yea!
I personally would of swap the stalkers and hunters from category, for many reasons:
-Normally a stalker cloak works against it in most terrains and you can see them from far away.
-They are bigger, meaning their head is bigger, killing them is not really an issue most of the time.
-If you dive whent hey are going to attack you, all thet it's going cause, is send you flying away while doing no damage, their tongue don't hurt, only their arms do (they still slow ofc)
-Once you destroy the nest, they are no longer a threat.
-Outside of high level missions i don't really find stalkers packs to be of more than 2-3 (i've seen packs of 6-7 on helldive difficulty), and the rate of spawn makes them somewhat managable once you notice the threat.
Nothing of that applies to hunters, you don't know where are they are going to come from, they come in huge waves, they are everywere, and there is no definitive way to stop them, worst of all, they jump so much, you might miss a shoot entirely and all that is going to cause is to slightly damage them instead of actually taking care of the threat, meaning you are going to end up wasting more bullets for an other cause fodder enemy, that what it needs, so it also hurts your ego.
I just find myself yelling everything single time a stalker hits me from behind
@@DownloadableContent That's just because we all become desensitized to hunters by the time youre playing the red difficulties.
The hunter deaths stop standing out when they just become the norm, and anyone playing on red difficulty bug missions just start assuming that, at every single moment, they are surrounded on all sides by hunters.
The Hunters are defiantly in the "death" category for me they always catch me when I'm fighting something else or get jumped by a pack of them and slowed before being ripped apart. With the rocket troopers I swear they were stealth buffed because I kept being sniped by them during the mech liberation.
The Heavy Devastator (shield devastator in your video) are a bit of death. You can die to them, get dropped back in on your stuff, miss the pod kill on them and the moment you're out of that pod, they're already aware of you, they're facing you, and they're gunning you down and you don't have any say in it. It's kind of true with any enemy horde, but rocket and heavy devastators are the 2 that are the most egregious out of the "common enemies." Laser turrets and cannon tanks are the next ones of if you get dropped in the wrong spot you get put in a death loop.
It may seem like it's not worth it and is a bit of meta, but use the punisher against stalkers. The reason for the punisher and not the slugger is because the spread of the pellets means you're going to hit it with general accuracy and it's going to keep getting stun locked and pushed away from you as long as you keep hitting it and after a few shots, it will de-cloak itself. It's the best weapon that can reliably deal with stalkers individually that I know of that isn't a stratagem. The other option that I know of is to take a tesla tower with you. The tesla tower will strike enemies regardless if they're cloaked or not. And since it's presenting a threat, Stalkers become torn between you and the tower as priorities. So you can usually get them to attack the tower long enough for you to catch your breath, reload, and also scan around to see if you see anymore. It's a very niche solution, but it's something I've found to work.
honestly for me in terms of the terminids i put bile spewer, hunter, and stalker at death because out of every enemy i have faced they are the only ones that cause me physical pain
If you can clear out the little guys near flame hulks, then you can just run close rings around them. They wont fire their flamethrower if you're that close and will try to hit you with their blade hand, which basically never hits. Then have a teammate hit them while their spinning around
Let myself percolate on this for a bit to contemplate the tier list and my own experience on Helldiver difficulty, and after completing every achievement and almost fully upgrading my Super Destroyer... Hunters are by and far *the worst* enemies in the game, and I hate having to deal with them. I run the Punisher because it forces the little freaks to back off if it doesn't one-shot them, and it's almost mandatory on any bug-hunt I take.
It is the only weapon that I *Deliberately* bring specifically because it effectively deals with these bastards without having reload downtimes that let them pounce me, because even if I have to reload because there's one or two left from the hoard I can literally just fire the shell I just loaded and it's dead, or whip the secondary to finish them off before doing a full reload.
Goodbye Samples at minimum, and only if you're getting spammed by the damned things. Rest of the list is pretty good.
After the nerf i would put the Chargers in the death tier.
I still think they are not too death, especially now with the flamethrower buff 😉
@@DownloadableContent agreed. Too many people hide behind the Railgun using single player logic and end up panicking because they see multiple Chargers and instead of trusting their team try to mentally fighting all of them rather than thinking of how to either bait the chargers or damage them as a teammate does.
@@DownloadableContent Wel even with the flamethrower buff it still takes an entire magazine to kill 1 charger now imagne six running after you. The buff is great however there are now way to little ways to kill heavy armored guys
@@DownloadableContenthow do you like your Terminids, original, or extra crispy?
@@pierceromeyn8433 That's where the mechs being added will alleviate that issue for the most part, you still have to be smart about it using the mech though.
The Automaton with the dual rocket launcher on its shoulders is pretty easy to avoid. You can run sideways and he will miss with his rockets with a very high chance. Unlike the cannon fodder bots with their single rocket launcher. They aim in the direction where you will run and they hit with a very high chance. A friend told me that today while playing. It's really true!
Only thing annoying about the tower is the captain constantly in my ear saying “enemy artillery in your viscinity” over and over
Your friendly fire teammates: S-tier
helldivers tking with eagle airstrikes or bombardments, because they have the throwing arm of a premature baby, and always drop it right on the team. SS-tier.
You should now add the Factory Strider to the list as "Death." Cannon Turret on top, ridiculously fast Gatling guns on the front, and---the most lethal danger--they're a walking Devastator Fabricator. They'll drop Devastators in serious numbers. Orbital Rail Cannon strike, Orbital Laser, Autocannon Turrets, Eagle Air Strike, and Orbital Strike combined have to be used to take these walking fabricators down. They do have very small weak points on the back of the legs, but can be very difficult to reach.
Rocket troopers used to have perfect accuracy on me when I first started playing the game. Now less so, but they're also one of my high priority targets.
Shield Devastators have probably been my highest death count to automatons, that or the rocket devastors. They're also a bit more annoying for me as they showed the full nerf to the rail gun. The rail gun unsafe mode used to penetrate the shield with about 60% charge, now it can't pierce through at all.
Hunters are my highest death count for terminids. When they swarm and stun lock its awful. Their jump attack also does damage. The slow. Also for some reason has a small range attack in case you get out of claw range.
Because the Mortar Towers are a secondary objective, (if I'm not mistaken) you get a Hellbomb to blow them up so don't waste an Airstrike or even any grenades
Good list and categories bro 👍🏼
Great tier list! 👍
Nothing on the bugs side kills me more than a group of 8-12 hunters. Part of my load-out is always the question, what are we going to do against the groups of hunters? They are the biggest threat on the map. The bile spewer elite comes next, they can kill you artillery style easily if you focus on anything else. .
All enemies except heavies (I think) can summon reinforcements. It's just some enemies like the commisar or brood guard that prioritize it.
Honestly the berserkers are walking grenades/flame throwers. Not in how they deal damage, but what their role is, which is to force you out of cover.
Also I swear it feels like they take reduced damage from all sources because I can rip a devastator in half with a railgun reliably, but these things take so many hits
16:05 Him calling in the 500kg bomb is a great touch 😂
You know this is probably the best helldivers tier list I've seen so far pretty accurate
Hunters go above bile titans. You can run towards a titan and dodge its spit and when underneath it focus other bugs while making sure not to get stepped on. It will even on occasion crush a charger for you. With hunters the moment the gap is closed or they spawn on you there is very little you can do. Their lunge has a soft lock-on so you can dodge them and they will just redirect midair to you which is usually a head shot or crit and if one is close enough the others are close enough. They can rapidly attack while matching your sprinting speed and all hits slow you removing the main thing that keeps you alive in this game. To make things worst their tongue will actually lock-on to you so you can't dodge it to the side you have to dodge away leaving you on the ground unable to stand because you still got hit anyways and now your slowed. When you see a helldiver being swarmed by bugs don't help him by picking off the big guys. Help him by picking off the hunters. With them dead he can definitely handle the rest
If you can't tell I hate hunters
Oh I felt that ngl there was like 6 hunters on me 1 jumped and hit me I lost like 80% hp and healed into insta slow and i was lucky since my teammate saw how much there was and killed them since like any other bug I easily can kill its the hunters that if there is 3 to 5 up they will instantly kill you
Quasar cannon is a very valid way to deal with basically any enemy and/or building in one hit via direct headshot
That jumpy boy on bug planets: crosses all of space time with one leap to tickle your butt with that two tap huggy.
The reason why i always go with rover guard dog and defender smg against bugs is to specifically deal with hunters
With the rover and smg i can run away while thinning them down
Once I had a mission with 3 stalker lairs. I have a screenshot somewhere where there is 16 of those nightmare mantis on the screen, targeting me and me alone.
The most deadly to me are:
1. Flamer hulk
2. Rocket Devastator
3. Jetpack trooper
Hunters are deadly but I always waste my impacts on them if there are too many. I think stalkers are worse.
Stalkers are chump change if you pack a shotgun. A punisher can easily keep 3 at bay simultaneously
Idk if you're trolling, or trying to say you're the best player or something, but i dont trust this tier list at all
Bile spewers and stalkers are usually what I get killed by the most, but I don’t play above difficulty 6 so this might be a bit biased. The new flying bugs can be quite annoying as well especially since they can 1 shot you and their physics currently are pretty weird. The chargers would be a lot more deadly if they didn’t get their pathing bugged half the time. A lot of the time when I encounter them they just get bugged and stand still.
Yea it’s funny to see a charger just stuck there, and then you can just call supplies on them to kill them
Short of getting careless around bile spewers, the sole reason I die to any bugs weaker than stalkers/shriekers is because Hunters pounce on me and slow me down for the rest of the swarm. They hinder your movement at the exact point in time when you most urgently need to relocate.
I’ve had so many missions where I’m just absolutely SWARMED by hunters, like I’m talking in the 40’s or 50’s with little-to-nothing I can do about it. I personally put them in the death category since they just stick to you like glue and is amplified when there are a TON of them.
With the spawns going haywire any enemie above diff 4 belongs into death category because of their sheer numbers
You can actually shoot the hive guard at the area just below the middle front shield, definitely fodder
I’m glad I’m not the only one debating between goodbye samples and Death tier for the hunters, I clicked on the videos to see if I was the only one who thought that
I don’t know how they do it, but every time I fight a hunter they always catch me when I need to reload
Hunters are super easy to deal with if you run the rover drone, a lot of people crutch on the shield backpack to keep them from getting hit by projectiles to which I counter by saying just don't run in on 5 bile spewers and you won't have a problem. The shield also increases your hitbox size so a lot of the time it just soaks up damage that you wouldn't have taken anyway even if you didn't dodge or anything especially on bugs. Chargers are also super easy to deal with, just use any of the shoulder mounted rocket launchers and blow their face off (aim for the big top plate, if you hit lower it won't kill) and it's a one shot or if you hit one of their legs you strip the armor and can shoot out their legs to instantly kill.
Honestly I only have like 40 hrs in the game and I know my opinion has no weight on the subject with the amount of time I have played but the hunter is crazy especially at higher levels when there is so much going on and there are so many of them and getting as many as you can only does so much until you have to reload and continually try and dodge 20-30 of them while being slowed it’s definitely good bye samples
Hunters and Stalkers Nightmare fuel. As soon as we see a Stalker we move to take out that damn nest.
If you’re dealing with just 1-3 hunters on your ass but don’t have a second to stim or reload, I’ve found that a melee strike will stunlock them usually long enough to at least heal. If you don’t need to heal or reload then it’s also a good way to keep them still for a headshot.
lately after having the Scorcher and figuring out i am faster then a hulk turning i just do the stupidest thing you can think of and try to get in as close as possible to do laps around them to shoot their vent. If you have other players to distract them it really works. Problem is that if you do kill it that way, you best run before it blows up. But the enemy i have the hardest time with and the one that's killed me the most is usually bile titans because my stratagem's are on cooldown
But Hunters and Stalkers are my least favourite enemies to deal with period.
Bile titans aren’t too bad if your team has properly diversified their load outs. If your swarm killer and multi-tool are keeping the hunter/bile spewer spam at bay, your tank killers can go for a double headshot to knock it out quickly. The problem comes when everyone focuses on the titan and forgets about killing trash. Then, not only do the tank killers die to trash, but the trash keeps calling in reinforcements, leading to more and more bile titans and chargers showing up.
Once melted a horde of 100 enemies with the flamethrower... All 100 enemies out of a bug breech gone. A minute later I get wombo fucking comboed by a single hunter and go from full health to dead without a single chance to stim or shoot. I love hunters and theyre so fun to fight.
Hi, soldier from the Troost front.
Anyone who thinks the Minigun devastator is less than death, is a fool. Cause you try and tell me these fucks aren't the most annoying and irritating enemies on earth.
Cause the backpack (and the head but well, shield) is the weak point, but you gotta get behind them. And these fucks are the only bot to know to ALWAYS face the helldiver.
A group of them walking at my team in a phalanx just shredded us in a second. We were getting flanked by everything else while pinned by those damn shielded bastards
They can be easily sniped in a single headshot from most support weapons and 1-3 shots from basic rifles and pistols. If they have friends just use the ol' reliable ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
2:45 you can also take them down with the EAT17 though, so even lower levels shouldnt fear them to much if its at a distance. thats how i took down my first titan at least. lower difficulty though so there was only 1 titan.
What I hate/love the most about Chargers is just how dang quiet they are! They sneak up on me more than any other freaking bug!
I can’t tell you how many times I have died to the jet pack guy exploding
Elite Bile Spewers are the only enemy i consider unfair and BS in this game, because of everything that i will list next:
1- They have very high health
2- They have armor so light primary weapons are off the table (Liberator Penetrator does too little damage so it dosent work for them as i attempted)
3- Shotguns can do damage to them, good luck getting close to them
4- Their damage is absurd and the tracking feels like an TF2 Sniper bot which nobody in any squad i joined is able to dodge them once.
5- In high difficulties like 6-9 more than 20 can appear in one sole bug breach.
6- Because of the mention before, using anti tank weapons on them like Eats or Recoiless is an bad move because you would require so many of them, and because they can actually tank it unlike chargers (Like wtf).
7- If you leave them alone, they will start bombarding you, which gets extremely dumb when more than 10 start doing it nonstop.
8- And when they appear, that also means the little ones that also spit it, make you slower which makes them even more annoying to deal with spewers when those ones always will appear with the spewers.
Just because of them i cant complete an full operation of level 7 if they at least appear once in the enemy pool, so either skill issue, or im just not using the correct weapons or stratagems since most of them are for dealing with bile titans and chargers while my team takes care of the lil medium ones although i can pull my weight if needed
The devistators if you are far away also have missiles and there can be many and are very tanks unless for the head spot they might hurt you
For the bugs a single enemy isn't that bad. It is when there are multiple of the same that they become an issue like the hunters stun chaining for a slow death.
what bugs me most is the shield inconsistency of Shield devastators, you can COMPLETELY see their heads from side and 60% of my shots will STILL bounce off. if that wasnt the case they'd be pesky at best
Hunters are good bye samples or just death because they come in packs, if they weren't so common in groups I would agree with you. Maybe a skill issue thing for me but yeah thats my two cents.
The bile spewer can easily become one the worst bugs when you have 20 of them firing mortar
Since when did bile titans move “slow” you are slower than them if you are wearing heavy armour while you sprint and when you wear medium armour you are the same speed as them while running
fun fact you can stun lock the brood commander that has no head by punching it while it is running at you
to all automatons "The Enrichment Center once again reminds you that android hell is a real place where you will be sent"
Hunters are the most underestimated enemy in the game, most of my deaths are between them and my own teammates lol. The most overrated is the charger, never understood why people fear them. They may be able to outrun you but can't outmaneuver you. You don't even need to dive to dodge them, just run in a circle around them. Run around as they charge, ignore them and kill other enemies then doge again, 3 auto cannon shots to the tail done. Never caused me a problem except when they blindside you while not paying attention. Even so, even with light armor they rarely kill in one hit so I'd put them in pesky at most.
I find myself dying to chargers far more then stalkers when I fight the bugs. They can be a pain because it’s not uncommon to have multiple on screen on the higher difficulties.
The best thing I found with chargers is to kite them like a raid boss, making sure to kill the adds around it finger, while dodging them in a C like pattern
Chargers are one of the easiest enemy to deal with IMO. i've been an EAT main just because of how effective it is at neutralizing them and bile titans, Pathing them is very simple as well.
Reminder that titans still have ten times as much health with a PC host versus on Playstation, even though every other enemy has the same HP on both platforms.
The rocket devestators are the most annoying enemies in the game especially when you spawn in a walker and when the rocket devestators spot you its bye bye
"The railgun in unsafe mode" wait what? I didn't realize the railgun was made by voxtec (hazbin hotel).
Tbh, I haven't used the railgun yet, and am mainly using the arc thrower
I love how he talks about bile spewers and obly shows nursing spewers lol
Good thing chargers get oneshot with EAT and RR. I love watching them perish with one shots
Every weapon is good, the weapon doesn’t make the helldiver, the helldiver IS the weapon
I think you forgot to mention "enemy sympathizers"... S tier no doubt.
Bile titan is everything but slow. It can keep up with sprinting players, as soon as the player run out stamina it catches up usually within 4 seconds and start stomping.
2:56
I used the unlimited grenades exploit and encountered a stalker and threw over 10 IMPACT GRENADES AT IT'S FACE AND IT STILL KILLED ME.
It's like he hasn't even played the game, first mixing up nursing spewers and bile spewers, and then telling people that Brood Commanders are alive after their head is shot off. (They aren't alive, they just have a final burst of energy. You can dodge once and ignore them and they will not keep coming, thus, dead.)
My favorite part of berserkers is that you drop an airstrike on them and they survive it
I learned today that the new quazar cannon can one-shot the hulks if you get their eye.
you dont realize how annoying the trooper can be when your fighting something like a tank and ur surrounded by like 100 of them.
Had en entire elite bile spewer wave on me, was legit impossible to kill them without dying at least 3 times because of how many of them shoot me at once and in HD2 fashion, 3 more waves of them came and almost wiped my entire team but we barely made it somehow and got all the objectives done and samples secure. ALWAYS MAKE SURE THEY'RE HIGH PRIORITY OR THEY WILL SLAUGHTER YOU!(Unless hunters and stalkers are on you, then immediately rush kill the nests or all three of them will instakill you)
the stalker can be pushed back and stun locked by the punisher shotgun
Why is everyone complaining about hunters? Are y'all really getting jumped out the blue? You can check the mini map or use the laser drone if you're worried about getting sunk up on. Bile spewers or any that can slow you down is more likely to cause a death spiral. Now if y'all said bc the slow effect from bile, hunters finish me off; I'd believe that
been playing the helldive ever time didn’t know the green elite spewers were the better one
The Rocket Troopers only hit you when your not looking at them
hunters are for me way more dangerous then stalkers
Stalkers are the easiest unit to see in the game because their "invisibility" shines like a star xD and they are often alone and no biggy you can just destroy their nest ...
stalkers ... if u have no shield ur dead ...
they at LEAST "goodbye samples" but i put them in "death" i honestly thing that they are the most dangerous thing the bugs has
YES not a single one, not even 5 of them, but when shit goes down u have chargers and bile titans and you run ... its them who circle you, them who slow you, and them who kill you
Bile Spewer definitely deserves Might Hurt instead of Goodbye Samples. Yes, they have a faster and more deadly spit, they have way more HP and are harder to take down then normal Spewers and combined with a Charger can, it seems, be an instant death sentence. But you didnt mention that they share the exact same weakness as the Nursing Spewers: One grenade instant gibs them. As long as your team is alert no Bile Spewer should survive first contact. Even if theyre right up next to you, just dive away backwards while throwing an impact at them to instant kill.
My vote for Bile Titans should be Goodbye Samples or Death.
You pretty much just said that as soon as you bring the railgun or, lol, drop in on them with the hellpods, they become trivial.
My response to that is that anytime an enemy is tough enough to force me to change my loadout, that’s a tough enemy. For bugs, I usually find the grenade launcher is what I bring with me since they usually attack in melee hordes. With the rest of my loadout being either crowd control like sentries and eagles or support like the guard dogs. When on higher difficulties I will almost always change my loadout with either railguns or EATs to counter them.
As for the individual merits of the titan, I find what you said to just be wrong. The titans are not ‘slow’, they walk faster than the helldiver can sprint, they are incredibly armored, and they spew bile that’s way worse than the traditional spewer.
Also how did you not mention the one defining feature of the Hunter and that’s that they leap at you? It makes the fight far harder.
Not trying to be rude but the video did come off as a veteran player ‘flexing’ a bit, trivializing many of the more traditional and harder enemies like Hunters and Titans.
For lower level players the bile titan is definitely a scary thing to see on your screen but once you get good stratigems and you start playing on the high difficulties they arent that bad.
I mean on high difficulties you get chargers constantly along with the bile spewers so almost everyone already has weapons to take them down and those are the same that take the bile titan down. Plus the 500kg eagle strike is almost in everyone’s loadout so someone is bound to have something to kill it almost instantly.
Honestly the biggest thing the titan does on the last few difficulties is that when they appear everyone focuses on it for a few seconds and that gives the horde of smallers bugs a chance to kill you.
first time i saw a stalker i was playing a mission solo i jumped out of my chair when it popped out of thin air and did ALL my health
In the midst of a heated battle, with gunfire and explosions ringing in your ears, two words can bring even the bravest Helldiver to their knees. Two words that evoke fear and dread in equal measure. Two words that conjure up images of a colossal, unstoppable force lumbering towards you with a single purpose - to crush you and your comrades. Bile. Titan.
A towering behemoth covered in thick, armoured plates, a force to be reckoned with. Its massive size and strength make it nearly impossible to take down, and its acidic bile can melt through even the toughest armour. The mere sight of it on the battlefield is enough to strike fear into the hearts of even the most battle-hardened Helldivers.
But despite the terror they inspire, Helldivers know that they cannot back down from a fight. They will do whatever it takes to take down these monsters, even if it means risking their own lives in the process. With their weapons at the ready and their hearts filled with courage, they march forward to face the Bile Titans head-on, determined to emerge victorious in the end, for the sake of Managed Democracy, for the sake of Freedom, for the sake of Super Earth.
The Spewers ain't too bad when you turn around and see 10 of em and 3 chargers you just know you're cooked
The worst thing about Stalker is that its invisible for Guard Dog and turrets.