Retired Mech Engr here. Always enjoy your videos Keith, even at eighty years old! So many things they don't teach in college. I took the stress analysis route, but have always been interested in machine design. My father was a machinist. Your vids give me an insight to his working world. Thanks again. -Curt Kuhns
I'm a current M.E. working as a Sign craftsman. I had to laugh when you said "things they don't teach in college" because it reminded me of my old engineering teacher that used to tell us every semester: "Any good design contains 1 obsolete part, 2 unobtainable parts, and 1 part still under development. "
Oh my, These dividing heads always drove me nuttier than I allready am when I was in school. I see a piece that is one for you to be proud of. Well done Keith. You nailed another one my friend.
Hi my name is Kevin from Aus I worked in the family engineering business for 56 years we did tool making tool sharping jobbing manufacturing and power station turbine work your video takes me back when I cut gears of all types I have sold the business but have a little work shop in my back yard with some equipment I bought home from work I needed another gear for one of my lathe so I could cut 3 tip milled it up just like you did so I enjoyed watching you do it us older still do it well thanks Keith very nice job Kevin Schlipalius .
Remember the old adage,"Your hand is not a hammer." AN impact-sensitive nerve bundle runs through the base of everyone's palm, and I've met woodworkers who have permanently lost feeling by damaging those nerves.
I enjoy watching your videos. I was a machinist in my previous job and my Father owned a machine shop (Thuringer Tool & Die) for many years. He had many of the same machines you have in your shop. The videos bring back good memories of working with my Dad.
The very first VM video I watched was a the one where you did a brazing repair of a sawmill or other vintage tool. I watched it because I needed to make a gear to repair a handwheel gear for the Hardinge HLVH lathe I was restoring. I wasn’t able to find the proper cutter (they used the Fellows Stub type of 22/29DP with a 20PA), which I’m still trying to find. I did find a gentleman who made one for me and it worked perfectly, but I would have preferred to make it myself. I’m sure you can relate. I can’t get enough of the gear cutting videos, and seeing the KT in action. I enjoyed this video very much. Thanks for producing it. Regards from Florida’s Space Coast.
Keith Rucker, I watch your videos with fascination! Not just you knowledge of what you are doing but also I am amazed at how the machinery you are using, most of the time, was make by someone using, pretty much, just their pencil and paper instead of a computer. I am not a machinist nor the son of a machinist but I am fascinated at how someone could design machines that can do amazing things B.C (before computers). Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I believe that 'someone' you mention would be one of my ancestors. I actually have a tool or two made by one/some of them but don't know exactly as no name engraved and they have been passed down through the family. Interesting to see Keith's mill in action.
Don’t do yourself down Keith, the one thou oversize across a diameter implies your tooth depth is only half a thou shy. Keep up the good work and excellent videos!
All that effort at the start pays off with the reasonably quick machining of the part. Great stuff! I'm pleased to see the adjustment on the fly - even the bolt you missed tightening.
I have a granddad who grew up in Milwaukee but never got the chance to become a machinist, though he loved machining. I was lucky enough to end up with a Cincinnati No. 2 universal horizontal mill with a high speed vertical attachment. I'm still looking for the arbor support, but I have some really nice 50 taper milling arbors. It gets me by until I either find or make the horizontal arbor support for this machine. I can keep the bed close enough to the mill & I go easy on feeds and speeds to get really nice results. Really love watching the process on the K&T. Let me know if you ever get a lead on a horizontal arbor support for a Cincinnati #2. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your channel & videos. You'll never know how much all of use appreciate it. If anyone else reads this & has a lead on a Cincinnati #2 overarm arbor support, I have some MT5 taper drills & a nice MT5 bull nose live center I'd throw toward a trade.
Mr. Rucker, thanks for another great video. Gear cutting has always been somewhat of a mystery to me. You do a great job of simplifying it and showing "field expedient" ways of accomplishing the task. Thanks again for a great videl.
Thanks for the step by step set up. I've never run any of these machine tools. I'd seen the red and black markings on the speed dial in videos but never saw how that was applied to set up. That two sided marking on the high/low lever is cool.
Great tutorial on the set-up of the horizontal mill. Answered a lot of questions I had. I'm mot a machinist by any stretch of imagination. I was taught by a old time machinist 70 years ago, thus I have some basic knowledge of machine tools.
Great video, thank you! I always enjoy watching your gear cutting work, it's fascinating how many ways there are to mill a gear. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the gear being finished in the future!
That is a fantastic video the sound of the cutter on your lapel mic came through. I think my perception of the sound was very much like what you heard there in your shop. your explanation of setup was interesting to one who never does this type of work.
I got a dividing head for my drill press recent for drilling holes in a shaft. Nice to see it in use for cutting gears as I have no real experience with this yet.
Lots of steps but fun to watch especially that old KT calculator, nice you have that in your kit. I was pretty sure the feed rate was going to be too high , my guess is those are production rate numbers with flood coolant .
Keith, I love your videos and am always impressed with what you do. You might have had less vibration and therefore noise if the cutter had been closer to the column and the support closer to the cutter. An arbour half the length is 8 x as rigid. 4dp is a big tooth needing significant rigidity. Well done for a successful gear. Ian
Amazing to watch the process. Definitely looks like the horiz mill cuts gears simpler than a vertical. But I don't have any experience with either. I love the "scepter?" hole counting assistant. That is genius! I always wondered how you get around manually counting holes when using a dividing plate. (No personal experience with that either!) Thanks for putting out your videos. I always learn a lot from them in my novice career as a machinist.
Probably just help take up some wear from the other gear. Those old 14pa gears were very prone to loosing teeth. 20 was a huge improvement and 25 is even better but rarely found in old stuff.
Thanks for the in depth coverage of setting up the mill. You filled in a bunch of questions I had about the whole concept of the overarms, support, etc. Is there a slight kink in the arbor nearest the machine? Kinda looked like the spacers wanted to bind up. That old mill is a jewel. And I say 'old" with the greatest respect.
Keith, you could sharpen that cutter. All you do is push the face back. Use your surface grinder. I’ve seen those cutters made when I worked for Star cutter. Piece of cake!
Great video! I would have thought that the amount of time it took to set up the low lead attachment for the spiral bevel gear that you would have left the attachment in place. Cutting gears is always a neat process. Thanks!
All this was once learned at the high school. Kids would graduate and have a job the Monday after commencement. With a little more education at the junior college, they could call their wage and place of work.
Great work, also many thanks for he name of the sharpening service. I need to have some done, and if you recommend one because you have used them for a long time, I think it's worth trying.
Nice video. I am both from Uppland and Östergötland in Sweden, really it is just Sweden since the 900's when they set their problems once and for all :) Actually, the Kings set the problem about the Swear and the Gutes (Gotish) in the great battle of Bråvalla, the greatest battle of all times, perhaps in the year 700. Now all Kings were to be selected from Götaland, so as not to poison the Kingdom of Uppland. Or the whole Kingdom. I have been in the USA, Mn. The girls flocked around me as if i was a beatiful alien from outer space.
I certainly enjoy all your videos. That old gear broke at least twice in the past. In your position I would have been tempted to make 2 replacements just for future-proofing. More work for sure, but not twice the work because you only do each set-up once. Whereas I see the utility of CNC machines in a production environment, for the one-of jobs I thinks the manual machines still reign supreme. And they make much more interesting RUclips content.
very entertaining video, I recently watched a video by Clickspring that he showed how to make the cutters for doing this, granted his cutters were for teeth much smaller than you would generally work with
Great explanations. I think I noticed early in the video that your sight glass on one of your gear boxes is low on oil? Did I see that right at 18:03 with the RPM wheel? Is that gearbox different? Is that one supposed to only be read when the machine is running? Not picking at you, legitimate curiosity.
Pinion/bull gear, that drives the main wheel. Someone moved/towed the machine without disengaging the gears. Saw it happen on a full size roller teeth love it being driven the wrong way.😢 Anyhow that is my guess.😮😮
Hi. The old feed and speeds calculator are rubbish. You need to reduce them in half to be able to work whit them … whit you’re Rpm you can sent the cutter for sharpening after every gear you make. Nice work by the way
Retired Mech Engr here. Always enjoy your videos Keith, even at eighty years old! So many things they don't teach in college. I took the stress analysis route, but have always been interested in machine design. My father was a machinist. Your vids give me an insight to his working world. Thanks again. -Curt Kuhns
Same here Curt. Retired M.E. (ship repair)
Love watching Keith….fascinating!
I'm a current M.E. working as a Sign craftsman. I had to laugh when you said "things they don't teach in college" because it reminded me of my old engineering teacher that used to tell us every semester: "Any good design contains 1 obsolete part, 2 unobtainable parts, and 1 part still under development. "
Oh my, These dividing heads always drove me nuttier than I allready am when I was in school. I see a piece that is one for you to be proud of. Well done Keith. You nailed another one my friend.
Hi my name is Kevin from Aus I worked in the family engineering business for 56 years we did tool making tool sharping jobbing manufacturing and power station turbine work your video takes me back when I cut gears of all types I have sold the business but have a little work shop in my back yard with some equipment I bought home from work I needed another gear for one of my lathe so I could cut 3 tip milled it up just like you did so I enjoyed watching you do it us older still do it well thanks Keith very nice job Kevin Schlipalius .
Remember the old adage,"Your hand is not a hammer." AN impact-sensitive nerve bundle runs through the base of everyone's palm, and I've met woodworkers who have permanently lost feeling by damaging those nerves.
Great to see the gear cutting machinery going back into action. Watching that whole process of getting all that together was a wonderful journey.
Men as these are undervalued and precious. Genius in action
Very nice walk through step-by-step. Cutting gears was always one of my favorite machining tasks. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for going into great detail with the setup of the horizontal mill. Very interesting to someone who is unfamiliar with gear-cutting.
Great job of explaining the process. Love those milling machines.
That is a magnificent, versatile machine.
I saw Keith cutting gears a hundred times, but I could watch it a thousand times more
I never got to use a dividing head when I was in the shop. The engineering behind it is amazing to me. Thanks for helping us understand more about it.
I enjoy watching your videos. I was a machinist in my previous job and my Father owned a machine shop (Thuringer Tool & Die) for many years. He had many of the same machines you have in your shop. The videos bring back good memories of working with my Dad.
This is lost art. Thank you for keeping it alive.
I love watching Keith cut gears. Most impressive thing about this video though is finding that special key.
The very first VM video I watched was a the one where you did a brazing repair of a sawmill or other vintage tool. I watched it because I needed to make a gear to repair a handwheel gear for the Hardinge HLVH lathe I was restoring. I wasn’t able to find the proper cutter (they used the Fellows Stub type of 22/29DP with a 20PA), which I’m still trying to find. I did find a gentleman who made one for me and it worked perfectly, but I would have preferred to make it myself. I’m sure you can relate. I can’t get enough of the gear cutting videos, and seeing the KT in action. I enjoyed this video very much. Thanks for producing it. Regards from Florida’s Space Coast.
Keith, you made a beautiful gear. Obsolete are those who have no idea of what you have accomplished here!
Keith Rucker, I watch your videos with fascination! Not just you knowledge of what you are doing but also I am amazed at how the machinery you are using, most of the time, was make by someone using, pretty much, just their pencil and paper instead of a computer. I am not a machinist nor the son of a machinist but I am fascinated at how someone could design machines that can do amazing things B.C (before computers). Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I believe that 'someone' you mention would be one of my ancestors. I actually have a tool or two made by one/some of them but don't know exactly as no name engraved and they have been passed down through the family. Interesting to see Keith's mill in action.
Great job of explaining the process. Love those milling machines.. Great job. Love seeing the gear teeth being cut..
I enjoyed watching the whole settup and the adjustments you made to perform the operation. Thanks!
So much fun to watch and what a lovely product!! Thanks letting us watch over your shoulder!!!
Always a pleasure when showing all of the setup steps and procedures that it takes to cut the gears.
Don’t do yourself down Keith, the one thou oversize across a diameter implies your tooth depth is only half a thou shy.
Keep up the good work and excellent videos!
On the dowells...would it be that much...?
All that effort at the start pays off with the reasonably quick machining of the part. Great stuff! I'm pleased to see the adjustment on the fly - even the bolt you missed tightening.
Never seen a machine like that but great to watch and produces a beautiful product
Good morning Keith. thanks for the videos.
Really appreciate this deep dive into the setup needed for cutting gear teeth.
I have a granddad who grew up in Milwaukee but never got the chance to become a machinist, though he loved machining. I was lucky enough to end up with a Cincinnati No. 2 universal horizontal mill with a high speed vertical attachment. I'm still looking for the arbor support, but I have some really nice 50 taper milling arbors. It gets me by until I either find or make the horizontal arbor support for this machine. I can keep the bed close enough to the mill & I go easy on feeds and speeds to get really nice results.
Really love watching the process on the K&T. Let me know if you ever get a lead on a horizontal arbor support for a Cincinnati #2. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your channel & videos. You'll never know how much all of use appreciate it.
If anyone else reads this & has a lead on a Cincinnati #2 overarm arbor support, I have some MT5 taper drills & a nice MT5 bull nose live center I'd throw toward a trade.
Always great to get the detailed view on how the machines are set up and operate. Thanks for another great production!
Mr. Rucker, thanks for another great video. Gear cutting has always been somewhat of a mystery to me. You do a great job of simplifying it and showing "field expedient" ways of accomplishing the task. Thanks again for a great videl.
I have the same thought, the viewing after milling a gear to view the cuts and surface finish....... :) great thank again!
Your videos are very informational Keith going on 3 years watching you. Keep up the great things you do.
Nice work sir. I always stay tuned for next episode.
Thanks for the step by step set up. I've never run any of these machine tools. I'd seen the red and black markings on the speed dial in videos but never saw how that was applied to set up. That two sided marking on the high/low lever is cool.
Great tutorial on the set-up of the horizontal mill. Answered a lot of questions I had. I'm mot a machinist by any stretch of imagination. I was taught by a old time machinist 70 years ago, thus I have some basic knowledge of machine tools.
So satisfying.
Let's see some video of the steam engine when it's back up and running !!!
thoroughly enjoyed this keith true craftmanship using lovely old machining machines !
i enjoyed every minute of that video. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything
The horizontal mill is my favorite too.
Great job. Love seeing the gear teeth being cut.
That's a lot of knowledge
Great video, thank you! I always enjoy watching your gear cutting work, it's fascinating how many ways there are to mill a gear. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the gear being finished in the future!
Never get tired of watching you cut gears! Nice job👍👍
Awesome stuff! Love the horizontal mill.
Thank you Keith 😊
That is a fantastic video the sound of the cutter on your lapel mic came through. I think my perception of the sound was very much like what you heard there in your shop. your explanation of setup was interesting to one who never does this type of work.
It is a thing of beauty.
Beautiful work Keith.
Some of my favorite video you produce is gear cutting love the old machines at work
Great job Keith! Thank you for all your content.
I’ve watched countless videos of you cutting gear teeth and I’m always glued to the screen, even tho I feel like I could do it myself by now haha
I agree shes a looker
Great job as always Keith .
I got a dividing head for my drill press recent for drilling holes in a shaft. Nice to see it in use for cutting gears as I have no real experience with this yet.
Nice explanation, thanks Keith.
Another great video.
Thanks Keith.
Thank you very much.
You sure have a lot of cast iron dust to clean up from that gear! I hope the owner appreciated you work! TM long time listener!
Great video... and a really nice finish. The original feed rate seemed a bit ambitious.
Awesome series , Hope we dont have to wait 2 weeks for part 3
Lots of steps but fun to watch especially that old KT calculator, nice you have that in your kit.
I was pretty sure the feed rate was going to be too high , my guess is those are production rate numbers with flood coolant .
Absolutely a beautiful, wonderful piece you made.👍👍
You make it look so easy!
Thank you for sharing.👍
Keith, I love your videos and am always impressed with what you do. You might have had less vibration and therefore noise if the cutter had been closer to the column and the support closer to the cutter. An arbour half the length is 8 x as rigid. 4dp is a big tooth needing significant rigidity. Well done for a successful gear. Ian
Amazing to watch the process. Definitely looks like the horiz mill cuts gears simpler than a vertical. But I don't have any experience with either. I love the "scepter?" hole counting assistant. That is genius! I always wondered how you get around manually counting holes when using a dividing plate. (No personal experience with that either!) Thanks for putting out your videos. I always learn a lot from them in my novice career as a machinist.
Thanks for the video. Jon
damn man , that gear turned out beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Probably just help take up some wear from the other gear. Those old 14pa gears were very prone to loosing teeth. 20 was a huge improvement and 25 is even better but rarely found in old stuff.
Awesome so fun to watch!
I love the gear cutting videos
Thanks for the in depth coverage of setting up the mill. You filled in a bunch of questions I had about the whole concept of the overarms, support, etc.
Is there a slight kink in the arbor nearest the machine? Kinda looked like the spacers wanted to bind up. That old mill is a jewel. And I say 'old" with the greatest respect.
Great Video Keith
Use a magnet to store your modified key to the machine.😮
Thanks for sharing
Another option for sharpening is Clover Tools in South Carolina. We have used them several times.
Keith, you could sharpen that cutter. All you do is push the face back. Use your surface grinder. I’ve seen those cutters made when I worked for Star cutter. Piece of cake!
Excellent.
Just picked up the same K&T slide calculator. 👍
Nice job as usual. Not sure about the feeds and speeds though, it looked as if you used the rate for a carbide cutter.
Looking 👀 great
Great video! I would have thought that the amount of time it took to set up the low lead attachment for the spiral bevel gear that you would have left the attachment in place. Cutting gears is always a neat process. Thanks!
Nice, GOOD job
All this was once learned at the high school.
Kids would graduate and have a job the Monday after commencement.
With a little more education at the junior college, they could call their wage and place of work.
Loved the setup detail!! 🙂
Great work, also many thanks for he name of the sharpening service. I need to have some done, and if you recommend one because you have used them for a long time, I think it's worth trying.
Good morning from Massachusetts 😊
Nice video. I am both from Uppland and Östergötland in Sweden, really it is just Sweden since the 900's when they set their problems once and for all :)
Actually, the Kings set the problem about the Swear and the Gutes (Gotish) in the great battle of Bråvalla, the greatest battle of all times, perhaps in the year 700.
Now all Kings were to be selected from Götaland, so as not to poison the Kingdom of Uppland. Or the whole Kingdom.
I have been in the USA, Mn. The girls flocked around me as if i was a beatiful alien from outer space.
To paraphrase The Dude: "well, that's just ... like ... your pinion, man"
Well it is a type of saw.
I certainly enjoy all your videos. That old gear broke at least twice in the past. In your position I would have been tempted to make 2 replacements just for future-proofing. More work for sure, but not twice the work because you only do each set-up once.
Whereas I see the utility of CNC machines in a production environment, for the one-of jobs I thinks the manual machines still reign supreme. And they make much more interesting RUclips content.
very entertaining video, I recently watched a video by Clickspring that he showed how to make the cutters for doing this, granted his cutters were for teeth much smaller than you would generally work with
That is one big gear for a scale model - but some of these old steam tractors, like that case 150hp that pulls 50 plow bottoms are gargantuan!
Not that I know anything, but the final cut sounded much better to my ear.
Great explanations. I think I noticed early in the video that your sight glass on one of your gear boxes is low on oil? Did I see that right at 18:03 with the RPM wheel? Is that gearbox different? Is that one supposed to only be read when the machine is running? Not picking at you, legitimate curiosity.
I hope they will send some video to show where it's installed and the tractor at work.
He definitely put a good edge on that cutter
Nice gear, looks like an original, only better.
Pinion/bull gear, that drives the main wheel. Someone moved/towed the machine without disengaging the gears. Saw it happen on a full size roller teeth love it being driven the wrong way.😢 Anyhow that is my guess.😮😮
He didn't say babbit once in this whole video. It's a miracle.
Hi. The old feed and speeds calculator are rubbish. You need to reduce them in half to be able to work whit them … whit you’re Rpm you can sent the cutter for sharpening after every gear you make. Nice work by the way