Dramatic, Perry Mason Moment at Karen Read Trial! - Day 28 - Lawyer LIVE
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Did Karen Read murder her boyfriend John O’Keefe by mowing him down with her car -maybe even intentionally? Or is she being set up by a corrupt law enforcement officials trying to protect their own?
O’Keefe was found dead in Canton, Massachusetts, in the front yard of Boston police officer Brian Albert. Prosecutors say Karen dropped him off at a party at Albert’s house and then hit him with her car.
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This case makes me so grateful to be 26 years sober
So happy for you. It's a whole life you're living now. Congratulations! ❤
The amount of times I thought "if only these people quit their drinking"
Congratulations! You should be proud of yourself ❤
Wait ...hold up a minute...sooo wi fi said she wasn't there????
Congratulations !
If I were a juror, the bite marks on the arm alone would give me reasonable doubt. But the extremely odd behavior of the Albert family is also super suspicious. I think Michael Proctor was the death of this case. Horrible cop.
The injuries alone keep me FAR away from guilt.
Especially after Trooper Paul.
I have 20+ yrs collision experience and he's just wrong on a scary level!
The jury sees it and connects the dots. Those heavy drawn out irritation sighs are so unprofessional and obviously biased against the defense.
I agree, I find it hard to believe many jurors will be willing to stand with Proctor and argue he's a totally honest cop aside from all the abhorrent texts and such.
@@wendyc1902 Yes, and yet this judge allowed him to say whatever he wanted on the stand and restricts the extrodinarily qualifed experts that the FBI had originally used. Makes no freaking sense.
U don’t see how Jaren Read was ever charged with a crime when I see no credible evidence against her. She was the one one trying to save his life, when she found him. I hope Justice is serviced and Civil suits follow.
In 1963 my sister was the guest star on the Perry Mason Show episode "The case of the Golden Oranges". Happy to share this with all of you.
I just looked up the episode, there's a dog bite issue in that that episode, too! Perry Mason was my Mom's favorite show when I was a kid and we watched it many times in reruns together... good memories
Cool!
😅🎉😊
Oh geeze, now I'm going to look to see that one. I love Perry Mason and saw it's being replayed in the mornings and on demand. I'll find her. Love the bit of Trivia.
Thanks for sharing, I’ll have to check it out. Perry Mason brings so many memories.
Destroying cell phones, ripping up basement floor and replacing it, getting rid of Chloe- Karen is not guilty.
Vehicle data, taillight pieces, violent hateful voicemail messages, 3 calls in the middle of the night to her parents, and more. Karen Read is guilty of murder.
I’m pretty sure we are all seeing that now
It's So freaking obvious. These charges need to be dropped and those two officers need to promptly be arrested!
Don’t forget the dna from 3 males on John’s clothing.
You all want there to be something. The defense is just throwing anything at the wall. Karen was raging.
What a bunch of messy and dramatic drunks. All of them. I think that is why this case is so confusing and chaotic.
Agree. Bunch of still drunk or hungover buttinskis trying to fill in all the blanks together.
It's the reason this case exists at all.
As a physician, when I saw the marks on John O’Keef’s arm it was easily recognizable as a dog bite, and scratches.
but wouldn’t there be dog DNA?
Thank you, Doc!!! Appreciate you sharing your expertise!!! ⚖️
As an absolute lay person I saw it too. I did get bitten in the face once and got the classical black eyes.. and a few small punctures and slashed. I looked beat up too and it was just a smallish dog.
@@Maren-pw4uj If those conspirators wanted there to be but clearly that would ruin their case,
@@Maren-pw4ujcant find what you never look for
Aloha Lee. I just wanted to say that even though the subject matter is very serious, it is always such a pleasure to listen. No drama. No hysteria. No wild theories. Just excellent commentary that is informative and fair. Many thanks.
Karen's phone connecting to John's home wifi when the Prosecution is claiming she was at the Alberts hitting John with her car is case closed for me. Acquittal. Not guilty.
No...😂 thankfully the jurors are processing all evidence
😂no swifty...just the opposite!
They will say she left her phone as a alibi lol
I'd call a lawyer too immediately after hearing from Proctor on his personal cell!
Definitely
Exactly.
Love you Lee! I’m a proud Gen Xer, and I remember my parents watching Perry Mason!! I definitely get it! Thank you for all the work you’ve put in! You are awesome Madame!!
I am so sorry 😞 over your husband’s passing.
In a nut shell it's called too much alcohol.
Yep...the Aruba stuff...drunken banter is what I called it.
These messages were just more of the same, Imo
So you’re blaming it on the alcohol huh? Oh my question to you would be simply Karen Reed had so much alcohol that she got out of the car went over to John , bit ripped his arm drained his blood it punctured it and sliced it just like a vicious, big dog and then got back in her car and drove away, is that what you’re saying?
@@charleslaurice
Ummm...I think you're reading too much into that comment.
We're talking about the text messages.
And yes...the temperature of the texts I am blaming on alcohol
Agree
What's the saying. Nothing good ever happens after midnight while drinking alcohol.
All the voicemails reveal nothing more than a stormy relationship. Absolutely no indication she was aware of her having caused any injury with her vehicle.
These messages aren't different than some women who behave passive aggressively. Who hasn't sent a manipulative text or voicemail in their lifetime. Insecurities, jealousy, someone in a "going nowhere" relationship ..the possibilities are endless.
@@meavey38I agree! And it also proves she thought he was alive. Her anger, betrayal, insecurity was real. Palpable.
I wonder what the jury thought looking at John's mother in court while she was listening to the voice-mail. I hope the jury figures out that if Karen hit John even accidentally she would not have left such nasty voice mail. And a bunch of them.
Yeah its just a PIECE OF THE PUZZLE if you have any sense.
Correct
Turtle Boy asked today defense Yannette Thursday June 21 as he was leaving court if Defense starts tomorrow and he said yes. He also advised trial will be wrapped up before next Friday. WOW so good to hear this is finally going to the jury 🎉
I watch Perry Mason every day, just for the chuckle. I have loved this series since childhood! The Writer was from my hometown, Ventura, California. Earle Stanley Gardener.
I’m 64. I watched sooooo many Perry Mason shows, they were in black & white, and they were great. 🔎
I watched it as a kid. And only a few years ago learned: The very last episode of Perry Mason was filmed in color. I stumbled across in syndication and was amazed, it looked surreal and I must admit the show worked much better in black and white.
@@lindahorton7851 it makes sense that they would do something surprising in the last episode. I loved the black & white, and looking at the clothing, jewelry, fine art, sculptures in all of the scenes. It is a real collection of fine style.
Ditto 🎉
Reruns are on now , I’ve been watching
The shows theme music is so dramatic
What a superb generous act of creating this timeline. Its wonderful to see this impromptu community collaborate to increase our collective understanding of what happened. This case, so complicated shows how often people lie and misremember.
They seem to think John’s phone was logging the drive to the house as flights of stairs due to the elevation change. Why don’t they make the same drive with a phone and see if it logs it as steps. I call BS, a drive isn’t going to log as steps.
It was also John's arm movements as they argued in the vehicle
Everyone that has an iPhone sure wishes they'd get step stair credit for driving in a car up a hill. 😂
NO, NOT ELEVATION OF DRIVING A CAR!!! Ridiculous. We live on an Ice Age Trail -- rolling hills... NEVER fools my Fitbit nor my Phone Health App!
I Googled Mapped the hills he’s talking about on Birchcroft, Pinedale and Cedarcrest Road on the way to 34 Fairview. Yeah, no big hills!!! Not going to log 3 flights of stairs on JO’s phone while they are diving to 34 Fairview. Like Lally would say, this is laughable.
Agreed, also so interesting 🧐 how the CW stands by the data when it’s against KR but For Jen McCabe the data is FALSE
Opening Lally said 12.45am Karen hit John. Paul said same. Today she’s at Johns at 12.36am connected to his wifi. They’re all over the place. Jen McCabe texting John and swore she saw them at 12:45 out front. They’ve relied on JM for everything it seems.
There are plenty of reasonable doubt items in this trial. Nothing that points definitively 100% to her guilt. The bites on the arm don't come from a car...plain and simple.
Idk, that kinda looks like a Lexus bite.
Those aren't dog bites. Those are gashes caused by his arm being caught somewhere and then dragged on asphalt and glass. Dogs dont bite with their front teeth only. Dogs grab a hold of the arm and cause marks on the other side of arm. There are no marks to prove a dog bite. How can this dog only bite the inside part of the arm, the part of the arm, that tucks into the body. The bite marks would be on the top and outside part of arm.
The dog bite expert will be on next week - stay tuned.
@@outoftime7740how do you explain the lack of injuries or even marks on his clothing that would be expected from being dragged? Also, unless dogs are trained to bite and HOLD, the marks they leave are often just from their front teeth.
@@passionflower4594more like a Jaguar 🤔
Nope, those are dog scratches and bites.
You are so thoughtful and kind with the members
Even if she hit him, if she didn't know, why would she be charged with murder?? It would be an accident. This woman never should have been charged. There's more than enough reasonable doubt. Those wounds look exactly like dog bites I have helped treat many of them at the wound clinic. I also want to know where the 3 Lt of blood he lost went, it wasn't outside.
You should be on the stand, call the attorney, and tell them what you just said .
@@judygutierrez4309 unfortunately I wouldn't be able to testify, the judge isn't even wanting to allow the defense witness on the dog bites to testify because the state is arguing they didn't have enough time to prepare. I believe the judge is biased.
Owner of house had the floor of basement refinished…Some believe John was assaulted there and later taken outside afterwards. So, perhaps that is where the blood was, and is: under a refinished floor. But, then I think: why wasn’t there a lot of bl**d on John and his clothes when found? Three liters I’d a very large amount of bl**d.
Bingo
If she hit him it would be manslaughter because she was drunk.
think this case is a good example of the craziness of what happens when people are drinking excessively. lot of the behavior is not logical.
Keep Perry Mason IN !!🙌😁
Perry Always outsmarts the criminals!
We know Perry💙🇺🇸⚖️👨⚖️
Then does Karen’s phone look like she was climbing stairs also?
EXCELLENT POINT ☝️!!!
Wow- that is an EXCELLENT POINT! I hope the defense sees your comment!
No, not at all. That's why they didn't bring it up.
I definitely know Perry Mason. I reference a Perry Mason moment too lol. Thank you for the time line. I'm very sorry for your loss
I’m so glad I found your channel! A whole days testimony packed into your very knowledgeable RUclips channel! Thank you!
I'm wondering, with all the corruption in that city, how worried should we be about someone paying off jury members?
Also, thank you so much! I appreciate all the work you put into these.
I have been wondering if there is a "planted juror" in the jury too. I hate to say it, but it seems likely with this "judge" if not, I can see her overruling the jury's decision if they say innocent, she will say guilty.
@@RMBRN11Her instructions to the jury are going to be negative to the defence . One juror has already been discharged for inappropriate behaviour in the court , but I missed if she was pro or anti KR .
@@BlackStump172She was anti-Karen. She was removed for making negative personal comments about Ms Reid’s appearance and personality in the court room. Scary
Wow, I hadn't even considered that. Excellent point.
That’s what I thought x Proctors mother is probably on the jury lol x
Thank you for your in depth analysis of this case! It’s so hard to believe any of this is actually happening!!!
I just have to say, You’re so Awesome lawyer Lee - consistently showing up with a smile even if you really, Really, may not feel like it. You’re doing such a fine job of helping yourself through this journey one step at a time and what a tremendously healthy thing to model for your children. That family bond between the 4 of you still holds strong. Sending you lots of love❤
I agree.
something Ive noticed about the cops when they are being crossed, they tend to not answer the question being asked directly but answer in anticipation of where the attorney is going with their line of questioning. I believe by doing this it breathes air into the conspiracy theory vs just answering the question being asked.
Almost all state witnesses become defensive and all of a sudden don’t understand the defense’s questions.
The defense is trying to confidence the witness
@@NicoleJohnson-jo9ix Do you feel the witnesses lack confidence? I dont understand your comment
I still watch on occasion, Perry Mason (Raymond Burr). Excellent show, and actors! Started in 1950s, went very long time! I’m 73, and that’s why I know! Lol
Ahhh. The memories. ❤Della Street and Paul Drake!! So you think Della was interested in Perry?
@@NancyDrew1 No! Perry was gay.
I hope the jurors give interviews after this trial.
Hurt people say mean things, especially when drinking. It doesn't mean anything.
That’s up to the recipient if it means anything, many ppl won’t tolerate verbal abuse.
@@JD29903
We aren't privy to the details of their relationship nor the context of Karen's messages.
Perry Mason and Columbo - Icons!!
And Pink panther...😂
Ok. I’ve gotta add Matlock
And Petrocelli!
“Oh-there’s just one more thing.” -Columbo
These so called law enforcement officers give a bad reputation to all the great officers around the country who keep us safe and take their jobs and victims seriously. It looks like MA has some serious problems with its state police, and local LE can't be trusted. Thank you Lawyer Lee for being the voice of reason and keeping us all grounded, because these "good ole boys" infuriate me. I absolutely cannot understand how this case ever got to the Grand Jury. It looks like LE pulled the wool over the prosecutor's eyes and by the time everyone figured it out, it was too late and Karen Read had been charged with second degree murder. Now the prosecution team are laughing stocks around the world.
I totally got the reference to Perry Mason. Not just to the show, but also what it means when someone refers to a “Perry Mason moment.” I’m an elder millennial, for reference.
I'm an older one too, but somehow can't reconcile that fact!
He became so smug and arrogant on cross. Laughing and thinking he was cute. Such an a**
Who is the "he" you're referring to here?
@@AsuranFishNick Guarina
You should see what he did in the Sandra Birchmore case.
Guarino had to be really careful during this cross. He has a lot to hide.
Lawyer Lee, your timelines are the best in the true crime business. That is some brilliant lawyering by the defense. I am temporally gifted so yes, I remember Perry Mason. 😁
Wow. This trial is something else. Thank you, Lee for walking us through it! I loved watching Perry Mason as a kid This trial has been fascinating!
Sorry about the loss of your husband.
Is it possible Karen Reed ripped up John’s arms in the fight right before he got out of the car?? She’s obviously very feral.
She said she was leaving the kids. She wanted him to come home or call. It was when she woke up and realized he didn't come home not knowing if someone was watching his daughter that she knew something was wrong.
Karen is guilty of driving while intoxicated. The rest of it? Too much reasonable doubt.
All of the people were drunk...ALL OF THEM!
Hi Lee,
I have served as a juror on a criminal case. There were so many questions that I felt weren’t answered. Unfortunately for the defendant he took the stand and it seemed as though he lied during his testimony.
Secondly our jury foreman was an attorney and he said “I have no doubt he is guilty “. In this case the prosecution really did not provide enough evidence in my mind to convict him. However the fact that the defendant testified and many probably thought he lied and the fact the jury foreman was sure of his guilt convinced me that he was guilty. I think as a juror you always want more information. I would always advise a defendant not to testify because I don’t think any juror wants to convict somebody.
Perry Mason was and is the best show. Others have followed, with Matlock being second to PM. I still watch reruns and never get bored.
Either way you slice it, they will never prove beyond a readable doubt… Shes going free
I think you are correct very confusing , my personal view is the she most likely did it , the policeman proctor was very angry with karen because he believes she did it . why would the others want to kill him he was on the whole well liked .
Agreed!
Yes, very well liked, but I think a little too well liked by these husbands' wives( going by Jen McCabes' desperation to get him specifically over to the Alberts house. I think there may also have been the issue with the lawn and Colin throwing beer cans in his bushes.
@@louisewright8769
She most likely did it even though there is no evidence that she did?
@@SamStone1964 She is a very controlling person and when they do not get their way watch out !!! she will get off on reasonable doubt but as i said most likely it was her . proctor was angry because he really believed it was her .
Karen was calling JO when they were driving & dropped the phone when she saw him & jumped out of the car. Jen called 911 & the call was picked up on KR vm. Hope that makes sense.
Yeah.. murderers ALWAYS leave angry angry messages on their victims phones.
Without the epithets, she said she was home with the kids, asserted he was cheating, and called him a "pervert." She called him a pervert in another voice-mail too.
Emily D Baker gains the sound from the feed so you can hear everything pretty clearly if you want to hear it yourself.
I wonder if he was interested in someone a lot younger than he is or something.
I think more went on with the chick in Aruba than was admitted in court. She was pretty full of herself and John appears to have been a player
@@barbaral743I think it’s a bit rich for the state to insinuate she was crazy to think he cheated. Then their own witness the day after he died was like “oh yeah, he didn’t love Karen. He was totally in love with this other woman. She was just a babysitter with benefits to him.”
Kind of makes her jealousy and assertion that he is interested in someone else and deceiving her not just plausible but likely. Accusing someone of cheating on you when they didn’t is out of line…accusing someone of cheating on you when they are isn’t irrational.
Now maybe she could have gotten crazy enough to kill him over it…but her jealousy wasn’t irrational…doesn’t sound like Kerry thinks he was faithful and she is so far the person that seems to have known him the best of the “friends” we have seen.
Perry mason? Dating ourselves!! Im sure I watched every episode. Lol
My husband fell and hit his head on the ground and his eye swelled up it looked like he was in a fight, he wasn’t.
My cat was run over by a car, I'm worried Proctor will be involved, are worried he's gonna say it was a suicide
Or that the dog did it.
😂😂😂😂 stop it x best comment so far lol x
Regardless of guilty or not guilty, there’s not a single jury panel that can possibly make sense of this mess!! Talk about overloading info, it’s too much!! These poor jurors are everyday common people just like you & me, and we’re confused AF, imagine them?!
This will end in acquittal!
I did a test with my IPhone. I threw it around at least 15 ft and up in the air multiple times. It did not add anything to my health data.
Also, my IPhone has never shown any data driving in a car.
Even my Apple Watch doesn’t recognize driving in a car.
Flap your arms make a pirouette and get projected 30ft in the air, then it does (maybe, hopefully).
Joking!
And see if it lands underneath you.
Evidence? You said Hard evidence against her. What evidence?
Screaming at her cheating boy friend?
My spouse and I would def have been put in jail multiple times for many many texts and emails we’ve sent each other over the years - ffs! Couples fight, and it seems very obvious to me that Karen had NO IDEA that John had passed. She sounds angry, yes, but she sounds scared and hurt and rather helpless. It’s sad.
12 butt dials = Something stinky in Canton
OMG I grew up on Perry Mason! I loved all the legal TV shows of the 60s they morphed into PI shows in late 60s to 70s I loved the ones with a slight twist of humor too. Your show is so relatable even though I'm 71 I love hearing your take on it all.
If she was home at 1236, who was in that SUV. That needs answers.
Or someone lied.
Being from Boston, I can interpret what Karen is saying, but there are 10 F bombs in her messages. Like you say, she was clearly upset. She tends to go off the rails, she may suffer from Borderline Personality Disorder. The evidence is mounting to show she likely hit him. Whether it was intentional, probably not. The GNSS data is tough to dispute. It does not look like John made it near the house (not within about 40-50').
Dog scratches and bites…
ANYONE who’s been with dogs for a long time Can EASILY recognize those scratches.
I’ve been bitten maybe 3 times, I can recognize those marks…
Those ware not dog bits it.
I've been dog bit and backed over. Those are dog bites and scratches
The power of suggestion is a powerful thing. Someone already did a dramatization of the taillight and how they line up perfectly. Check it out don’t it doesn’t matter. She’s guilty.
I know Perry Mason but I wonder if more would understand it as a CODE RED moment "You can't handle the truth" "You're god damn right I did!" This trial has had a lot of Code Reds.
The real Perry Mason moment came when the defense proved on that at 2:27 AM, long before the body was discovered, Jenn googled on her phone how long it takes to die from exposure to the cold. Although, in defiance of the uncontrovertable extraction data, she denied on cross-examination that she made such a search until about 4 hours later at 6-something in the morning. This, notwithstanding that both search queries had the identical typo.
AWESOME JOB, ladies!!! Thank you! 🎉❤
She said- “John,where the f#%! are you?!”
So?!
@@Sheila-hw4us didn’t she ask what we thought she said on the vm?
She wanted a response from John. She was hoping he would answer the phone and would come home .
My question is:
HOW SHE WANTS HIM COME BACK HOME, if he doesn’t have car?
@@jagodah1130 uber ever here of it
❤ I appreciate all your hard work and kindness and fairness for all involved in these trials.
In my opinion, the Judge should have never considered admitting the search for an attorney. We have a right to have an attorney and the presumption of innocence. That’s not consciousness of guilt. The prosecution and judge should know this. I’m not bought into the idea of a cover up but this changed the way I view the prosecution.
My memory is that the judge said this would not come in. Everyone has that right and it’s ludicrous for the prosecution to even bring this up.
Thank you for doing the recaps, really enjoy these
Perry Mason was one of the all time great lawyers on tv in the 60’s and 70’s. I loved The Perry Mason show♥️
Guy goes into party a little drunk. Gets too close to the family dog. The dog bites. The owner gets upset, punches victim, and throws him outside.
Blow to head and alcohol leads hypothermia and unlife.
This is the most sensible to me.
I used to ride my bike home for lunch when I was in high school and watch Perry Mason. Great show!
Raymond Burr / Perry Mason, was an alumni of my school.
San Rafael military academy.
A Perry Mason moment should stay intact. It is part of Hollywood history. For those who don't know what it means, they should look it up.. easy enough.
I am very sorry to hear about your loss.
"We shall all meet in the by and by"
❤
The amount of prosecution witnesses brought in feels like desperation. I would imagine that the sledgehammer witness effect would lessen the prosecution’s case, in the eyes of the jury.
Sometimes less is more, surely.
So sorry to hear of George. You are such a light for all of us. Praying for you and your family❤
Yes, I know who Perry Mason is, Ironside! Great vintage TV attorney from the past! I’m age 59! Loved him! And definitely know what you mean by Perry Mason moment - when he ‘sticks it’ to the witness - usually with case - facts - and solves the case.
A German Shepard bite with no under arm puncture? Did Chloe have no bottom teeth?
About the phone calls. I believe it says, answered on Karen's. Because it was "answered" by his voicemail. It says rejected on John's. Because it was sent to voicemail, so, rejected.
Lee your fairness is refreshing. Look forward to your videos 💐
Hi Lawyer Lee….. I came upon your video’s recently and then learned of the loss of your husband. I am so sorry for your loss. I too lost my husband on 8/29/22. It’s a club I never wanted to join. Please know you are not alone.
🌸So sorry for your loss . I hope you have family and friends supporting you . 😢
37:35 its not just the three minutes.. its the fact that the clock is off in EXACTLY in the right direction.. not 3 minutes the other way
You have the best trial coverage on RUclips, Lee!! Thank you !! Very sorry about your husband. 🙏 You’ll see him again someday. 💕
I just wanted to say that im loving your coverage and glad i found you. I hope you continue following other cases in the future or do some commentary on some older cases. Thank you for helping understand the law in an understandable way!
The head injury hides any trauma to the eyes caused by a fist but those lacerations to the eyes do not. Either it was an accident where the dog attacked and he fell back (he was super drunk) or someone (Collin or Higgins) punched him and he fell or hit the back of his head hard. Either way it’s clear the McAlberts covered the whole thing up so Brian and Chief could retire without incident.
My bet is that it was a combo of events. Collin jumps him, the attentive dog thinks Collin needs protection so attacks JO and that’s why he fell backwards into/onto an edge or something sharp.
_It could have easily been explained as a freak accident._ “Hey they were having a “friendly” boxing match, but the dog messed up.”
BUT they freaked out thinking Collin had killed him.
If it was an innocent accident they would have called 911.
Was thinking Karen hit him and then and the dog finished him off curious to see what Feds have on the case
After listening to cross of the ME today, I think he was punched a couple to a few times and maybe something blunt or sharp was behind him in the tight quarters of the house or basement. I can’t tell if there was one strong blow or several blows. He was standing for a bit to bleed on his shoe and shirt. I think it happened shortly after he arrived because people started to scatter shortly thereafter. They waited to move the body until after the guests were gone. I think Higgins saw or participated but wasn’t the primary aggressor. It was probably Collin or Brian himself.
Karen was very intoxicated....highly The next morning she was still way over legal limit.....
So you're saying you know for sure when her last drink was before her BAC was tested?
@@SamStone1964no that's not what was said.
@@yogabee2222
Yes that's what the first comment said.
With her anger and being drunk, I can see her doing it. I also remember that she said that she didn't remember what happened. Also, how did she know where the body was unless she did it.
I do! I’m 70 but my mother loved it. It’s still on !!!
I love Perry Mason and still watch!!❤❤
Perry Mason still airs reruns on Metv
Why would anyone, let alone a ME, show up dressed like this for testifying in court??!!
She looks like her false eyelashes are slipping
A person cannot be a true crime enthusiast and NOT know who Perry mason is. If you love to listen to trials and court proceedings it is a MUST you learn who Perry mason was. Now HE was a rock star and set the standard we all want in an attorney! (Lawyer Lee is right up there with Perry Mason)
My doubt is if she backed into him his major injury was the back of his head according to Drs. So this 6ft plus man gets hit from behind but they find him face up with no drag marks he would have been crawling if he was still conscious there would be evedenice He got wacked in back of head with one of Alberts weights
Right, you know 3 cm is a little over 1 inch?
And Karen's tail light was intact at 5.07am.
You are an incredible host Lee. No doubt a fantastic mother, wife and daughter. Did you ever think we were all out here waiting for someone like you to come along? We all like to be on our best behavior too. You make us want to be better listeners.
You explain things so clearly .thank you lee
Aww sorry to miss the livestream but am excited to listen to replay.
I thoroughly enjoy your explanations and commentary.
Blood from 3 different male 🧬 dna doesn’t show up in a car accident that the CW said only involved 2 people. Definitely not guilty.
Wonder if they've tested the DNA to identify the males.
@@SamStone1964 ofc not. Getting DNA samples & searching the frigging house for proper evidence would mean the cops were doing their jobs. If they're gathering blood in open beer pong cups & muddying evidence - they clearly don't give a shite about the truth.
@@SamStone1964 they didn’t! Not sure if there is enough blood to even test another time. Sad!!!
For me the Perry Mason Moment was tbe witness saying several times "I can explain" the 3 minutes. Why does he emphazise that? This witness came across too defensive at several points on cross. I am convinced that the jury does not trust any MSP witness anymore.
I used to watch Perry Mason with my grandmother too! I think that got me hooked on trials and crime shows.👍😁
Oh I love Perry Mason….. just recently found it and I think I’ve seen all the episodes now 😁 love your videos….. that was a perfect example, you nailed it lady! 😁 thank you for all you do
I love the way that attorney reined in those prevaricating assholes on the stand desperately trying not to answer. I like him even better than Jackson because he knows how to poke them in the eye and correct them
Her attorneys are hateful and so is she. Arrogant a holes
Both great lawyers
I can’t believe how many people actually think a police officer would unalive someone and leave them on their front lawn. No way!!
I can't believe how many people actually think a 7,000 lb motor vehicle could kill a man without leaving a bruise.
You mush be slow bc he has bruises and abrasions.
You're kidding, right? I could show several cases of cops covering for each other and framing someone for crimes.
Covering for them is not leaving a guy on their front lawn. It’s beyond belief. He could have drove and dropped him in the lake or anything if they were for the cover up. Nobody was on the road. Use common sense
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If they drove and dropped him in the lake there would be potential phone pings, apple data, CCTV, number plate scans, ring cam footage, footprints, drag marks, personal sightings etc.