As a 21y 7m retired Army NCO I found the conversation informative. Everyone is human; with all the baggage that comes with it. Everyone is fallible and none are without sin. Rank is no guard against that, in fact it makes it easier to fall into. The visibility and politics at the field-grade level generates tighter constraints that thin to that of a high-wire performer, and is far easier to fall from.
Real insight ref the culture required to source leaders with independent thought and strategic judgement….and why the west often fails to get the ‘big ideas’ right.
I'll just put this here because of the feelings that have been expressed and will be in future comments. A lot of people will have a negative reaction to the interviewee in this video and many of them justified from the viewpoint of those people. However, I do think it is valuable to let the man speak, and for us listen - not as some way of honoring him or the opposite, but as a way to understanding his thinking and learning from it, so that we can ourselves use that knowledge to avoid the kind of things that resulted in him becoming as controversial of a character as he is today.
So don’t have sex with your mistress in exchange for giving her classified information in a war zone while your troops are getting killed right outside the wire? 👍
"...On November 9, 2012, he resigned from his position as director of the CIA, citing his extramarital affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell, which was reportedly discovered in the course of an FBI investigation.[19][20] In January 2015, officials reported the FBI and Justice Department prosecutors had recommended bringing felony charges against Petraeus for allegedly providing classified information to Broadwell while serving as director of the CIA.[21] Eventually, Petraeus pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.[22] He was later sentenced to two years of probation and fined $100,000 for the unauthorized removal and retention of classified material he gave to Broadwell..."
@@MJ-fj9yv obviously a soldier, and not a monk, maybe less than ideal decision when so high up in leadership. Broadwell was lucky she didn't face worse for her illicit email nonsense,, tho.
@@MJ-fj9yv Yes it is, but he was out of uniform when uncovered, she wasn't, she lost rank if I recall. Accessing a cia directors email account probably a little more punishable, tho, Broadwell got off easy.
@@alacazaba she didn’t get off easy, she got away with it. Dave collecting that retirement means he gets called on active duty and punished under UCMJ. Since the Uniform Code of Military Justice’s inception in 1950, the code has allowed the military to court-martial certain military retirees. While court-martial proceedings against retirees are rare, the threat of a court-martial is very real.
Amazing amount of negativity in comments, none of the party poopers are generals I take it? Smart and successful men frequently inspire the worst in people`oh,well, I enjoyed the conversation
i think the issue with Patraeus is that his actions are not in keeping with someone of that stature and responsibility in our defense and intelligence sectors. He shared classified information with his mistress and received a slap on the wrist, meanwhile CIA whistleblowers received prison time for sharing less sensitive information. Now he is cashing in further on his service doing the speaker, guest, expert role on TV. There are better examples to look up to that's for sure.
Probably the best General in the US Army at the time. He was spot on about Viet Nam. The US should have taken a page out of the British book on Anti Insurgence and Gorilla War, giving the Malayan Campaign.
General Sir, you are awesome! You have a great sense of humor. And so much knowledge in your field. Thank you for all you gave to this great country. My mother (RIP) always had a 'thing' for General Bradley, he was from her era. And I kinda feel that way about you too!!
I know guy he was in vietnam, born in 1944. He was a true hero, not to forget my friends who were in iraq, afghanistan, juniper shield, Nato, South korea, Guam.
Sure you're a great General, if I was conducting this interview, Big question, What mistakes did you make in the Army CIA etc? Instead him bragging how great he is!
Nixon Al ang federation saka lang lumalabas ito pag final ang decision alam ko kaya nag resigned ang president kasi po guilt sa mga taong nadamay sa Vietnam pero we practically now. Choose always win in eney cause of war..
His answers to short questions are very, very, very, very long. He's very mysterious, but I do know he knows lots about tools. To accomplish the impossible, we've got to get the big tools right. “I actually don't think that the Israelis have gotten the Big Ideas right to accomplish the objectives they've set out for themselves, unless they're rescoping the objectives; & there's some discussion they may do that,” said General Petraeus. {ref@ 50:25 ⬆}
I respect the general's insights, but I have a couple of problems with Petraeus. The biggest problem is the lack of punishment for mishandling secure information. I also feel like something was "fishy" about the way he dismissed KilCullen .
In Principle, the only idea, flash-recognition of e-Pi-i omnidirectional-dimensional logarithmic condensation-coordination materialisation, means applying Equivalence to Conformal Correspondence Equilibrium and so on to social metastability. The details are why Generals have highly refined Educational scope.
What is he talking about? He must have come up with the idea of walls in Gaza when he was drunk! Walls will be destroyed in a sec like tanks are being destroyed ,and ID in the tunnels! Get sober dude..
Great day from Dangrek mountain capital hill of krung Preah Beida Sung Khmer Thai. The only future dragonfly capital hill of Asia 🌏 that going to have the largest airport and airbase for direct fly of Boeing and air force from all G7 countries members and Thailand Philippines Indonesia Myanmar.
Patraeus should have went to prison for giving TS material to his mistress. Full Generals should know better. That set a terrible example. TS - GRAVE danger! It’s in the training. Anyone else would have faced an Espionage Act violation indictment. Why not him? Sorry, I can’t watch this one.
What? Like Hunter, special dude. Sleep well. Dummy, we got it. Who with TS. Papers OF Biden stored by Corvette. In old garage. Dumped them... Yep some, The wide, 350 double back Tires. Wide at hips. ALL these pickups wide, fat rear TIRES, CALLED THE MONICAS, Lol, Piss and moan. Yes cheating on wife, like Eisenhower or Clinton.. True Right or wrong it happens. But can man be honest. I'm not sure. But can run? Our foreign policy... 😊 Boomer, we heard wide 350 Ford, a double back tires, wide back. And. So the worst like Clinton president, cheating Sperm ..I never expect, or hold against them President s Now the Enemies , Afghanistan
Final decision that time about Vietnam 🇻🇳. Kasi pati Philippines nakikipag laban din dito so why federation he deside to send atomic to them. Lolo always said to me choose a biluon of people don't choose a one milion bcz that one milion people he give you profits. We build and we sacrifice bcz if peace agreement so don't allow eney to distry that we have.....
Total bs presentation and guest. No hard questions! from the hosts to the guy arguably more responsible than anyone for the LOSSES in our two forever wars! This guy is in EVERY conversation looking for what the hell happened that caused us as a country to LOSE BOTH GWOT wars. It's obvious isn't it - Gen P was an academic general in wars that required warriors capability and mentality! All his academic thoughtful informed actions were precisely why we lost - this guy is exactly what he appears to be - an academic and he have come nowhere near national security spears. An academic consultant, maybe, but a warrior leading troops and brutally, ruthlessly dealing wit ha ruthless, brutal enemy. If you want to know how to lose wars, go ahead, buy his book. Early on in the presentation, he invoked Hal Moore, our Vietnam commander who "won" the first major battle of Vietnam - we did NOT win, we got waxed the following day!
The Fall of the "Mighty" General David Petraeus: A Comical Recap of Blunders and Scandals 🎬💥 1. The "Surge" of Disappointments in Iraq (2007-2008) 🚀💣: Hailed as a hero for the Iraq Surge, but in reality, the country descended into a hot mess, breeding ISIS and chaos. Well done, General! 🙄#IraqMessUp #OopsSurge 2. Afghanistan Fiasco (2010-2011) 🏴☠️🐪: Petraeus claimed progress, yet the Taliban came roaring back. If success means retreating while the enemy parties, then bravo! 🎉 #PetraeusPretendVictory #TalibanWins 3. CIA Director Turned “Office Romance” Drama 🎥💔: Can’t manage classified documents if you’re busy being love-struck! Sharing secrets with your biographer girlfriend = career meltdown. How spy-worthy of you! 🔑💌 #ClassifiedAffair #LooseLips 4. From Hero to Zero (2012) 🎩🔻: The guy who was supposed to know all about national security compromised it because, well… pillow talk! Great work proving that intelligence isn't his strong suit. 🤦♂️ #SecurityFail #AllForLove 5. Plea Deal Humiliation (2015) 👎📜: Guilty of mishandling classified information - as if that wasn’t embarrassing enough, he walked away with a slap on the wrist. Some warrior, huh? 🥴 #DishonorInUniform #GeneralFail 6. The “Petraeus Doctrine” that Didn’t Age Well 📜🧓: His counterinsurgency strategy sounded fancy but turned out to be all bark, no bite. Basically, it’s a doctrine for a war nobody won. 🙃 #DoctrineOfDuds #AcademicFluff The Legacy? A trail of wrecked countries, questionable ethics, and failed strategies. But hey, at least he’s got a good ghostwriter, right? 📚✍️ #EpicFumbles #HeroToHasBeen
🏚️ Surge or Slump? (Iraq, 2007-2008) The so-called "hero" of the Iraq Surge? More like the guy who threw extra troops into a mess and slapped a Band-Aid on a bullet wound. Sure, violence dipped, but look at Iraq today! #ThanksForNothing
💌 Love Letters and a Career Collapse (CIA, 2012) The head of the CIA caught leaking classified info...to his mistress?! 👀 Oh yes, this top spy spilled secrets in pillow talk and had to resign in disgrace. If you can't even handle secrets with your lover, how are you supposed to safeguard national security? #LoveFails #OopsCIA
🎭 The "Scholar-Warrior" Image-Or Just a Mirage? He was praised as a brilliant strategist and intellectual. But the reality? Most of his so-called “counterinsurgency” strategies were military jargon sprinkled with some Ivy League seasoning. The ideas were flashy on paper but couldn’t deliver in the real world. #AllTheoryNoSubstance
Maybe those wars were not to be fought. US lost a lot of credibility for fighting wars for the heck of it, and worse- didn't finish them. Anything after Korea is for nothing. Look US handling Ukraine now it's disaster waiting to happen. US will again lost interest there, let them in their own misery and lost. And US will have less friends again. It's possible that US will leave UE also, if that happens, you will not be welcomed back for a long long time.
So….Just how broad was Paula’s well? I know it’s a mean question but he was getting his knob polished while troops were literally getting killed outside the wire! There is an NCO with 20 years service busted down to a Private and losing his retirement because he slept with his Specialist. But General here gets full retirement?
@@mariekihlgren6403 yes he did have his affair on the road. And unlike you, i watched people die because of him and his buddy McChrystal while they played “strategic” games. Ironic as you aren’t his type. Dave cheated on his wife who looks awfully similar to you!
You are not logical. You say I'm not his type, but that I look awfully alike Paula. Hmm I'm nothing like Paula (I'm not a former military and I'm just a ordinary woman from Sweden). Furthermore I look nothing like her. My eyes and soul are clean. I don't treath a third person to get what I want. Furthermore, I would never hurt or trash an important person on an import mission for personal gain. So mentally I'm nothing like her either. I'm a patriot that just serve my country, the world and the univere...
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As a 21y 7m retired Army NCO I found the conversation informative. Everyone is human; with all the baggage that comes with it. Everyone is fallible and none are without sin. Rank is no guard against that, in fact it makes it easier to fall into. The visibility and politics at the field-grade level generates tighter constraints that thin to that of a high-wire performer, and is far easier to fall from.
Real insight ref the culture required to source leaders with independent thought and strategic judgement….and why the west often fails to get the ‘big ideas’ right.
I'll just put this here because of the feelings that have been expressed and will be in future comments. A lot of people will have a negative reaction to the interviewee in this video and many of them justified from the viewpoint of those people. However, I do think it is valuable to let the man speak, and for us listen - not as some way of honoring him or the opposite, but as a way to understanding his thinking and learning from it, so that we can ourselves use that knowledge to avoid the kind of things that resulted in him becoming as controversial of a character as he is today.
So don’t have sex with your mistress in exchange for giving her classified information in a war zone while your troops are getting killed right outside the wire?
👍
"...On November 9, 2012, he resigned from his position as director of the CIA, citing his extramarital affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell, which was reportedly discovered in the course of an FBI investigation.[19][20] In January 2015, officials reported the FBI and Justice Department prosecutors had recommended bringing felony charges against Petraeus for allegedly providing classified information to Broadwell while serving as director of the CIA.[21] Eventually, Petraeus pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information.[22] He was later sentenced to two years of probation and fined $100,000 for the unauthorized removal and retention of classified material he gave to Broadwell..."
YOU GREAT, DAVID. TENNEESE EVIL!!!❤
I think David petreus is a very smart man.important person.wish i could meet him.😂😊❤
Does anyone know when the second edition of Conflict will release?
Petraeus always dazzles with his smarts, even so, he does it humbly.
Ask Paula! She was dazzled!
@@MJ-fj9yv obviously a soldier, and not a monk, maybe less than ideal decision when so high up in leadership. Broadwell was lucky she didn't face worse for her illicit email nonsense,, tho.
@@alacazaba none of us were monks. Many of us made the right decision. He got away with it, adultery is punishable under UCMJ.
@@MJ-fj9yv Yes it is, but he was out of uniform when uncovered, she wasn't, she lost rank if I recall. Accessing a cia directors email account probably a little more punishable, tho, Broadwell got off easy.
@@alacazaba she didn’t get off easy, she got away with it. Dave collecting that retirement means he gets called on active duty and punished under UCMJ. Since the Uniform Code of Military Justice’s inception in 1950, the code has allowed the military to court-martial certain military retirees. While court-martial proceedings against retirees are rare, the threat of a court-martial is very real.
My sincere thanks for sharing it.
Awesome conversation
Amazing amount of negativity in comments, none of the party poopers are generals I take it? Smart and successful men frequently inspire the worst in people`oh,well, I enjoyed the conversation
i think the issue with Patraeus is that his actions are not in keeping with someone of that stature and responsibility in our defense and intelligence sectors. He shared classified information with his mistress and received a slap on the wrist, meanwhile CIA whistleblowers received prison time for sharing less sensitive information. Now he is cashing in further on his service doing the speaker, guest, expert role on TV. There are better examples to look up to that's for sure.
Probably the best General in the US Army at the time. He was spot on about Viet Nam. The US should have taken a page out of the British book on Anti Insurgence and Gorilla War, giving the Malayan Campaign.
GENERAL PETRAEUS REAL BOSS.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Awesome interview/discussion!!
General Sir, you are awesome! You have a great sense of humor. And so much knowledge in your field. Thank you for all you gave to this great country. My mother (RIP) always had a 'thing' for General Bradley, he was from her era. And I kinda feel that way about you too!!
He can come to St. Petersburg, Florida.
audio is inadequate
I know guy he was in vietnam, born in 1944. He was a true hero, not to forget my friends who were in iraq, afghanistan, juniper shield, Nato, South korea, Guam.
Sure you're a great General, if I was conducting this interview, Big question, What mistakes did you make in the Army CIA etc? Instead him bragging how great he is!
Nixon Al ang federation saka lang lumalabas ito pag final ang decision alam ko kaya nag resigned ang president kasi po guilt sa mga taong nadamay sa Vietnam pero we practically now. Choose always win in eney cause of war..
His answers to short questions are very, very, very, very long. He's very mysterious, but I do know he knows lots about tools. To accomplish the impossible, we've got to get the big tools right.
“I actually don't think that the Israelis have gotten the Big Ideas right to accomplish the objectives they've set out for themselves, unless they're rescoping the objectives; & there's some discussion they may do that,” said General Petraeus. {ref@ 50:25 ⬆}
Awesome!
luckily you can hear Petraeus. The presenter either can"t speak or the sound engineer hasn"t done his/her work
💚
Petraeus, 1 out 3 were combating
I respect the general's insights, but I have a couple of problems with Petraeus. The biggest problem is the lack of punishment for mishandling secure information. I also feel like something was "fishy" about the way he dismissed KilCullen .
In Principle, the only idea, flash-recognition of e-Pi-i omnidirectional-dimensional logarithmic condensation-coordination materialisation, means applying Equivalence to Conformal Correspondence Equilibrium and so on to social metastability.
The details are why Generals have highly refined Educational scope.
What is he talking about? He must have come up with the idea of walls in Gaza when he was drunk! Walls will be destroyed in a sec like tanks are being destroyed ,and ID in the tunnels! Get sober dude..
Spying is a sin
Great day from Dangrek mountain capital hill of krung Preah Beida Sung Khmer Thai. The only future dragonfly capital hill of Asia 🌏 that going to have the largest airport and airbase for direct fly of Boeing and air force from all G7 countries members and Thailand Philippines Indonesia Myanmar.
Patraeus should have went to prison for giving TS material to his mistress. Full Generals should know better. That set a terrible example. TS - GRAVE danger! It’s in the training. Anyone else would have faced an Espionage Act violation indictment. Why not him? Sorry, I can’t watch this one.
I agree.
@@dr.barrycohn5461 He even kept his clearance!
What? Like Hunter, special dude. Sleep well. Dummy, we got it.
Who with TS. Papers OF Biden stored by Corvette. In old
garage. Dumped them... Yep some,
The wide, 350 double back
Tires. Wide at hips.
ALL these pickups wide, fat rear TIRES, CALLED THE MONICAS,
Lol,
Piss and moan. Yes cheating on wife, like Eisenhower or Clinton.. True
Right or wrong it happens. But can man be honest. I'm not sure. But can run? Our foreign policy...
😊 Boomer, we heard wide 350 Ford, a double back tires, wide back.
And. So the worst like Clinton president, cheating
Sperm ..I never expect, or hold against them President s
Now the Enemies , Afghanistan
Move on
.
@@lynnhauenstein4136😂
General David Betrayus.
Final decision that time about Vietnam 🇻🇳. Kasi pati Philippines nakikipag laban din dito so why federation he deside to send atomic to them. Lolo always said to me choose a biluon of people don't choose a one milion bcz that one milion people he give you profits. We build and we sacrifice bcz if peace agreement so don't allow eney to distry that we have.....
Total bs presentation and guest. No hard questions! from the hosts to the guy arguably more responsible than anyone for the LOSSES in our two forever wars! This guy is in EVERY conversation looking for what the hell happened that caused us as a country to LOSE BOTH GWOT wars. It's obvious isn't it - Gen P was an academic general in wars that required warriors capability and mentality! All his academic thoughtful informed actions were precisely why we lost - this guy is exactly what he appears to be - an academic and he have come nowhere near national security spears. An academic consultant, maybe, but a warrior leading troops and brutally, ruthlessly dealing wit ha ruthless, brutal enemy. If you want to know how to lose wars, go ahead, buy his book. Early on in the presentation, he invoked Hal Moore, our Vietnam commander who "won" the first major battle of Vietnam - we did NOT win, we got waxed the following day!
The Fall of the "Mighty" General David Petraeus: A Comical Recap of Blunders and Scandals 🎬💥
1. The "Surge" of Disappointments in Iraq (2007-2008) 🚀💣:
Hailed as a hero for the Iraq Surge, but in reality, the country descended into a hot mess, breeding ISIS and chaos. Well done, General! 🙄#IraqMessUp
#OopsSurge
2. Afghanistan Fiasco (2010-2011) 🏴☠️🐪:
Petraeus claimed progress, yet the Taliban came roaring back. If success means retreating while the enemy parties, then bravo! 🎉 #PetraeusPretendVictory
#TalibanWins
3. CIA Director Turned “Office Romance” Drama 🎥💔:
Can’t manage classified documents if you’re busy being love-struck! Sharing secrets with your biographer girlfriend = career meltdown. How spy-worthy of you! 🔑💌
#ClassifiedAffair
#LooseLips
4. From Hero to Zero (2012) 🎩🔻:
The guy who was supposed to know all about national security compromised it because, well… pillow talk! Great work proving that intelligence isn't his strong suit. 🤦♂️
#SecurityFail
#AllForLove
5. Plea Deal Humiliation (2015) 👎📜:
Guilty of mishandling classified information - as if that wasn’t embarrassing enough, he walked away with a slap on the wrist. Some warrior, huh? 🥴
#DishonorInUniform
#GeneralFail
6. The “Petraeus Doctrine” that Didn’t Age Well 📜🧓:
His counterinsurgency strategy sounded fancy but turned out to be all bark, no bite. Basically, it’s a doctrine for a war nobody won. 🙃
#DoctrineOfDuds
#AcademicFluff
The Legacy? A trail of wrecked countries, questionable ethics, and failed strategies.
But hey, at least he’s got a good ghostwriter, right? 📚✍️
#EpicFumbles
#HeroToHasBeen
🏚️ Surge or Slump? (Iraq, 2007-2008)
The so-called "hero" of the Iraq Surge?
More like the guy who threw extra troops into a mess and slapped a Band-Aid on a bullet wound.
Sure, violence dipped, but look at Iraq today!
#ThanksForNothing
💌 Love Letters and a Career Collapse (CIA, 2012)
The head of the CIA caught leaking classified info...to his mistress?! 👀
Oh yes, this top spy spilled secrets in pillow talk and had to resign in disgrace.
If you can't even handle secrets with your lover, how are you supposed to safeguard national security?
#LoveFails
#OopsCIA
🎭 The "Scholar-Warrior" Image-Or Just a Mirage?
He was praised as a brilliant strategist and intellectual. But the reality?
Most of his so-called “counterinsurgency” strategies were military jargon sprinkled with some Ivy League seasoning.
The ideas were flashy on paper but couldn’t deliver in the real world.
#AllTheoryNoSubstance
Maybe those wars were not to be fought. US lost a lot of credibility for fighting wars for the heck of it, and worse- didn't finish them. Anything after Korea is for nothing. Look US handling Ukraine now it's disaster waiting to happen. US will again lost interest there, let them in their own misery and lost. And US will have less friends again. It's possible that US will leave UE also, if that happens, you will not be welcomed back for a long long time.
The host is unintelligible.
That's what the Spy Museum does to one. Also, augments his sense of self importance. It's a pity as the guest is a unique gem.
Well he did successfully cheat on his wife so he must know a thing or two.
So….Just how broad was Paula’s well?
I know it’s a mean question but he was getting his knob polished while troops were literally getting killed outside the wire! There is an NCO with 20 years service busted down to a Private and losing his retirement because he slept with his Specialist. But General here gets full retirement?
MJ you write everywere here....Is it personal?
He did not have sex in Afghanistan. He let her read classified material. Nothing else.
@@mariekihlgren6403 yes he did have his affair on the road. And unlike you, i watched people die because of him and his buddy McChrystal while they played “strategic” games. Ironic as you aren’t his type. Dave cheated on his wife who looks awfully similar to you!
Sure you did@@MJ-fj9yv
You are not logical. You say I'm not his type, but that I look awfully alike Paula. Hmm
I'm nothing like Paula (I'm not a former military and I'm just a ordinary woman from Sweden). Furthermore I look nothing like her. My eyes and soul are clean. I don't treath a third person to get what I want.
Furthermore, I would never hurt or trash an important person on an import mission for personal gain. So mentally I'm nothing like her either.
I'm a patriot that just serve my country, the world and the univere...
@@mariekihlgren6403 you are cuckoo 😜 i said his wife not Paula
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RUZZIAN MIND SET IS KLINGON.
TELL ME IM WRONG. 🔱⭐🦨