When I clicked, I wondered if maybe you were going to talk about the cymbal crash in The Man Who Knew Too Much. What a moment! Anyway, fantastic work as always!
The interior shots of the home were filmed at the Universal Studios in Los Angeles. The exterior shots were filmed in San Francisco and Bodega Bay. It seems most logical that the drummer was a union musician from local 47 in L.A. and was possibly on staff at Universal. Non union musicians didn’t not do film work.
This is very interesting to think about. Most likely he just had one of the crew on the set get on task and they phoned the local union office and they made a couple of calls and that was it. Some guy shows up with a snare drum. I am certain that the term side drum became a generic term for snare drum. I am sure I remember seeing that in old catalogs, like maybe Sears, but I do remember the term for sure. So it could have been a marching drum, but Hitch did say, "It wasn't a big drum". So probably a local union guys shows up with a 1959 white marine pearl WFL. Now, had it been in LA, a good guess would have been Frankie Capp. He did lots in the studios as a percussionist and drummer. Lots of film work too. But the romantic in me wants to say it was a 12 year old Terry Bozzio from San Francisco experimenting with weird timing and concepts that would bring tension to any but the most mature drummer fans! LOL!
That is very true. The union thing didn't even occur to me but it probably did involve a musicians union. Haha yes, if it was a young Terry Bozzio - that would have been quite the surprise. Thanks for watching!
I don't have any definite information. But as the episode unfolded.... I wondered about Alvin Stoller. He did such great snare drum work on Stan Freberg's "Yellow Rose of Texas." Just a guess, though.
Hi Bart....You have got mixed up with your Bernard Hermanns'! The Bernard Hermann that Hitchcock used was the american Bernard Herrmann (1911-1975)...you have confused him with the british Bernard Herrmann who was a musical director for the NDO alongside many other british artists and television shows. Hope that helps! I would guess that the drummer used on the Hitchcock movie would be someone like Shelly Manne, Alvin Stoller, Irv Cottler, Stan Levey, Hal Blaine, Earl Palmer, Dick Shanahan, Stan Levey, Frank Devito, Sol Gubin to name just a few possibilities. Hope that helps. Keep up the good work with the show!!
Yikes thanks Malcolm! I am going to trim that part completely out with the RUclips video editor. How the heck did I miss that!? Thank you! Those drummers you listed are definitely the greats of the time - It would be super cool if it was any of those :)
Highly doubt it was a famous drummer. 1) Because they would have gotten a credit in the film and 2) The drummer themselves would have mentioned it at some point in their lives.
Heard this episode on way home yesterday. Fun stuff & made me think of a Very Recent episode another show I started watching and this episode has the owner of the old schoolhouse from movie your referencing as guest...ruclips.net/video/6hGlMRNh0Ug/видео.htmlsi=Uf-iK2gScYI0oCcP
Yes, What probably happened was that they got someone who could roll on the snare for the scene Plenty of non professional could do a decent roll so they wouldn’t have to pay for a professional drummer
Here is the scene from The Birds that is discussed in this episode: ruclips.net/video/hgaCQMtfst0/видео.htmlsi=7RcR7tTxYinEYEMP
When I clicked, I wondered if maybe you were going to talk about the cymbal crash in The Man Who Knew Too Much. What a moment!
Anyway, fantastic work as always!
Great episode. The smallest kit may have been in the "Finish What Ya Started" video. Saw VH live in 98, an honor to have seen the brothers VH play.
Absolutely fascinating… Great work Bart
Thanks brother!
The interior shots of the home were filmed at the Universal Studios in Los Angeles. The exterior shots were filmed in San Francisco and Bodega Bay. It seems most logical that the drummer was a union musician from local 47 in L.A. and was possibly on staff at Universal. Non union musicians didn’t not do film work.
Non union musicians could barely get a club gig then. Look how far we have fallen. 😢
This is very interesting to think about. Most likely he just had one of the crew on the set get on task and they phoned the local union office and they made a couple of calls and that was it. Some guy shows up with a snare drum. I am certain that the term side drum became a generic term for snare drum. I am sure I remember seeing that in old catalogs, like maybe Sears, but I do remember the term for sure. So it could have been a marching drum, but Hitch did say, "It wasn't a big drum". So probably a local union guys shows up with a 1959 white marine pearl WFL. Now, had it been in LA, a good guess would have been Frankie Capp. He did lots in the studios as a percussionist and drummer. Lots of film work too. But the romantic in me wants to say it was a 12 year old Terry Bozzio from San Francisco experimenting with weird timing and concepts that would bring tension to any but the most mature drummer fans! LOL!
That is very true. The union thing didn't even occur to me but it probably did involve a musicians union.
Haha yes, if it was a young Terry Bozzio - that would have been quite the surprise. Thanks for watching!
"Side drum" was and is still a common name for a marching snare drum. Of course, Hitch was no drummer, so he was speaking more broadly.
The coolest thing Bozio ever did was Missing Persons, so prob not our guy here.
I don't have any definite information. But as the episode unfolded.... I wondered about Alvin Stoller. He did such great snare drum work on Stan Freberg's "Yellow Rose of Texas." Just a guess, though.
Good thought! Thanks for watching
I was 8. It terrified me to my soul.
That photo in the thumbnail is so good!
Hi Bart....You have got mixed up with your Bernard Hermanns'!
The Bernard Hermann that Hitchcock used was the american Bernard Herrmann (1911-1975)...you have confused him with the british Bernard Herrmann who was a musical director for the NDO alongside many other british artists and television shows.
Hope that helps!
I would guess that the drummer used on the Hitchcock movie would be someone like Shelly Manne, Alvin Stoller, Irv Cottler, Stan Levey, Hal Blaine, Earl Palmer, Dick Shanahan, Stan Levey, Frank Devito, Sol Gubin to name just a few possibilities.
Hope that helps.
Keep up the good work with the show!!
Yikes thanks Malcolm! I am going to trim that part completely out with the RUclips video editor. How the heck did I miss that!? Thank you!
Those drummers you listed are definitely the greats of the time - It would be super cool if it was any of those :)
Good guesses all. They did a lot of film and tv work.
Love this show! 🥁🙏😀
Excellent!
Highly doubt it was a famous drummer.
1) Because they would have gotten a credit in the film and 2) The drummer themselves would have mentioned it at some point in their lives.
This is fantastic. Thank you.
Thanks Tim! You should make some more videos man, I am a big fan
There is no way in hell Buddy Rich would have played on a major motion picture set in 1963 for no credit or recognition. On that, I'd bet my house.
Thanks, history of Nick mason of Pink Floyd?
Interesting
Heard this episode on way home yesterday. Fun stuff & made me think of a Very Recent episode another show I started watching and this episode has the owner of the old schoolhouse from movie your referencing as guest...ruclips.net/video/6hGlMRNh0Ug/видео.htmlsi=Uf-iK2gScYI0oCcP
Wow that is super cool - what an awesome show, I am going to check it out and others on the channel
Try contacting the musicians union?
That is a very good idea!
My guess would be.....Hal Blaine...lol.
But first we should hear the scene prior to the history lesson.
Great point - I will post a comment with a link to the scene and pin it to the top.
Well, good bet his last name was Siegel…..😅
Yes, What probably happened was that they got someone who could roll on the snare for the scene Plenty of non professional could do a decent roll so they wouldn’t have to pay for a professional drummer
They would have had a union musician or there would have been trouble. It was the norm then. Too bad that ended.
@@vipermad358 Yes, you’re right!