What Fitz said to Jemma, while a low blow, was fully deserved, considering how she was even before the Tripp thing. And though they all don't want to admit it, he is the best one to make a decision about Skye. He's been in her position (of sorts) and has also been front and centre on all the alien research just as much as Jemma has, and was thinking rationally while she was acting emotionally. He is uniquely qualified in a way no one else is. Jemma's feelings were really done well on the writer's part, how she was up for total eradication but when she learns it was Skye she's like "but she's my friend so it's different" ....kinda like how some people act about marginalized groups in real life
I understand the writing for Mac and Simmons here, but it always feels a bit unauthentic to me how their anti-alien reactions seem so blind to the concept of "it's a person".
Mack and Bobby's secret was a bit frustrating because you're right AoS is unique in a way were it doesn't delay people discovering things so even though technically it only has been a few episodes it still feels so dragged cus were are not used to it with this show.
To Sif's point, even though she asked if Raina was put down, when she realized it was Skye, she offered to take her to Asgard to take care of her, not kill her. Between her knowledge of Terrigenesis and the Kree's old plan, and what their experiments are capable of..., she had Earth's well being in mind and it is part of her station to protect it.
@ck5071no I doubt that he would most likely place sky under sifs leadership to help train and control her powers I doubt Odin would kill sky since she is innocent he would probably keep an eye on her and the kree at all times though.
@@darknessknows1235 which I assume is why Sif is primarily being given assignments away from Asgard at this point. She's the one most likely to see through Loki's bullshit.
The way Mack says at the end about Skye, “We would have found a way to HANDLE her.” Or something like that, is so dehumanising. Everyone except Fitz in that scene and Hunter (he didn’t really say anything) are assholes. Jemma is understandable but she still annoyed me. 29:39 I may be wrong but I’m pretty re sure Skye did want to tell Coulson but Fitz said not to cus of everyone’s emotions etc…
Hahaha! Give it a little bit more time. I think your main question will be answered verrrry soon. 😂 I'm interested in your reaction to that too. 😂 As for this episode, the Skye reveal moment is another one of my favorite rewatchable moments of the show. Mama May is showing that she'll love Skye, no matter what, and Papa Coulson will fight to the death for her. Like you said throughout the episode. May knew Something was going on with Skye but not exactly what it was. Yet, she wasn't pressuring her to reveal it until she was ready. Ming-Na is a treasure on this show
And from this moment forward, Sif pretty much got very lucky to survive from Hela and Thanos due to Loki banishing Sif offscreen when he was still pretending to be Odin at the time. Tho she was also one of the many victims of the Snap, but thankfully Sif got Blipped back into existence by Hulk. And then *Thor: Love and Thunder* happened where Sif lost her left arm to Gorr the God Butcher. Honestly, Sif deserves better!
@@jessicamagri8211 That was the real-world explanation, but the above fits as an in-universe explanation. Sif is the one of their friend group most likely to see through Loki's shit.
I think Sif was reacting to what she knew of the Terragenesis and how it was supposed to work, basically making mindless destructive weapons. She was not expecting the "weapon" to have free will, likely because she'd been told they wouldn't. She changed her mind once she realized her assumptions were wrong, and then she was thinking more about helping Skye and getting her help to control her powers, something that Asgardians clearly have some experience in doing. I'd like to see a What If.. on what if Skye had been trained by the Asgardians.
So glad Fitz is your favorite, same for me! I totally get your frustration with the Mack and Bobbi thing, it's not been too long since we found out when compared with other shows (The Flash I'm looking at you) but for this show it feels dragged out when looking at their track record.
It's so funny how episode 15 of season 1 and season 2 are reprieves from the serious stuff, and then every episode 15 afterward is just the darkest shit 😂
I just went to read the Wiki page for the episode, and I had forgotten about the absolutely GORGEOUS "Art of the Evolution" artworks that were created for the back-half of this season. Don't go looking at all of them because they are spoiler heavy, but the wiki for each episode has each episodes specific poster, and are worth checking out. The commitment to the show from all levels of production is outstanding.
These sequence of episodes are some of my favourite. Skye coming into her own, the team learning how to handle it. The division with mack and bobby having a different agenda and how everything comes to a head. Every episode keeps you om your feet and wanting to see what comes next
I felt betrayed by Mack and Bobbi too! I watched this show when it first aired and I've rewatched it many times and this whole plot made me so furious that I get mad again every time I rewatch it. Lol
Jemma has always been my favorite character (I mean technically FitzSimmons is my favorite characters) but I agree that Fitz was the one in the right here. And while I definitely understand why Jemma has been acting the way she is, I was 100% on Fitz's side with this situation
*_Don't worry my guy! Like you mentioned, AoS has a tendencies of addressing things within a couple of episodes: Ward's turn was revealed to everyone on the team within 2 episode, so was Skye's new powers here and where Simmons was after the start of season 2. It is a staple of the show that, where other writers/shows would stretch the little secrets from the other characters or the audience for a very long time, AoS just puts it out in the open and explores the results of everyone knowing (They still have some main secrets that they stretch out, like how Coulson was alive in season 1, because the plot demands it, but more often than not they'll just let everything out in the open). So answers to your more pressing questions are coming soon! (But then again, that doen't mean that two more questions won't spring from each answer!... "Cut off one head: Two MORE shall take its place!")_* 😜
23:18 maybe your frustration is why you stopped watching, lol. Totally agree with you about Fitz! I made it to the end of season 4, but barely remember ANYTHING, just like you. One benefit of getting older. Your memory isn't as good and you can enjoy some things "for the first time" twice.
I hated the whole bobby and Mack situation as well and I hated how they acted towards skye especially later on I won’t spoil it. Honestly Fitz is the best person since he wasn’t thinking emotionally like jemma.
The story here with Bobby and Mack is my least favorite in the series for pretty much the same reason. Some things related too it just take more time than they need to take and it sticks out among other quick turnarounds in the show
You're right! It all comes from a well-meaning place but it all sucks! Also, my absolute outrage over what Mack did to Hunter at the end of this episode was when I realized that I had really come to like Hunter.
I agree. Sometimes he has this “holier than though” attitude (or overactive moral compass? Idk how to describe it) that makes him kind of a prick to others when it comes to having to make hard choices
For me, this whole Bobbi and Mack situation (and [redacted]) is the worst part of the entire AoS run. And even then, it still has some really good parts. Skye/Daisy plot hard-carries this season. (For me, anyway.) So hang in there.
I don’t remember where this took place in the timeline of the mcu aka which movie came out or about to come out when the second half of this season premiered
LADY SIF 🥰 I love Mack, I do (and Henry Simmons is BRILLIANT); he's intelligent, empathetic and loyal, but also has the most unnattractive streak of hypocrisy (and this is just the beginning of it, and it gets worse... in my opinion) 😞
I never got the hate. Especially since Bobbi clearly likes Coulson and has no personal vendetta against Skye. She’s just doing what she thinks is in the best interest of the organization as a whole.
@@Jabberwocky415 yeah ig hate is a strong word, dislike their decision making is prob more accurate. Reminds me of how civil war & one side of that fight makes me feel. Annoyed w their character ig
@@Jabberwocky415 lol my b again annoyed prob wouldn’t be right either, frustrated is the word I was looking for. Went from hate to frustrated, need to take better care when choosing adjectives
@@scotthill1600yeah, no worries. I think sometimes we see and hear “hate” so much that we use it too much too frequently, even though it is a very strong word/adjective
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What Fitz said to Jemma, while a low blow, was fully deserved, considering how she was even before the Tripp thing. And though they all don't want to admit it, he is the best one to make a decision about Skye. He's been in her position (of sorts) and has also been front and centre on all the alien research just as much as Jemma has, and was thinking rationally while she was acting emotionally. He is uniquely qualified in a way no one else is.
Jemma's feelings were really done well on the writer's part, how she was up for total eradication but when she learns it was Skye she's like "but she's my friend so it's different" ....kinda like how some people act about marginalized groups in real life
I love that you’re already calling Coulson and May “Mama and Papa.” ❤❤❤
Simmons also took Trip's death hard because Coulson told her "he's your responsibility", when she backed Trip wanting to join the team in S1 ✌️😎
I understand the writing for Mac and Simmons here, but it always feels a bit unauthentic to me how their anti-alien reactions seem so blind to the concept of "it's a person".
Hunter is like a top 5 character in this show
The episodes following episode 10 never fails to make me super emotional! Your response to Mack talking about secrets, hilarious!!
Mack and Bobby's secret was a bit frustrating because you're right AoS is unique in a way were it doesn't delay people discovering things so even though technically it only has been a few episodes it still feels so dragged cus were are not used to it with this show.
But it's already halfway through the second season and all we know about Skye is that her name is Daisy Notskye.
To Sif's point, even though she asked if Raina was put down, when she realized it was Skye, she offered to take her to Asgard to take care of her, not kill her. Between her knowledge of Terrigenesis and the Kree's old plan, and what their experiments are capable of..., she had Earth's well being in mind and it is part of her station to protect it.
@ck5071no I doubt that he would most likely place sky under sifs leadership to help train and control her powers I doubt Odin would kill sky since she is innocent he would probably keep an eye on her and the kree at all times though.
@@Mcherri was Odin even really Odin by this point? I thought Loki was in control
@@darknessknows1235 which I assume is why Sif is primarily being given assignments away from Asgard at this point. She's the one most likely to see through Loki's bullshit.
I’m glad to see you care about this show. It’s always been a favorite of mine. Never understood why there were people who had hate toward it.
The way Mack says at the end about Skye, “We would have found a way to HANDLE her.” Or something like that, is so dehumanising. Everyone except Fitz in that scene and Hunter (he didn’t really say anything) are assholes. Jemma is understandable but she still annoyed me.
29:39 I may be wrong but I’m pretty re sure Skye did want to tell Coulson but Fitz said not to cus of everyone’s emotions etc…
Hahaha! Give it a little bit more time. I think your main question will be answered verrrry soon. 😂 I'm interested in your reaction to that too. 😂 As for this episode, the Skye reveal moment is another one of my favorite rewatchable moments of the show. Mama May is showing that she'll love Skye, no matter what, and Papa Coulson will fight to the death for her. Like you said throughout the episode. May knew Something was going on with Skye but not exactly what it was. Yet, she wasn't pressuring her to reveal it until she was ready. Ming-Na is a treasure on this show
The Kree guy always gave me big Drax energy, “I will keep watch” lmao
The actor played Pete on the SyFy series "Warehouse 13", where he was also a goofball.
He and Lady Sif have such great comedic timing this episode.
@@ProfArmitage218 I always forget his name in this and just call him Kree-Pete.
And from this moment forward, Sif pretty much got very lucky to survive from Hela and Thanos due to Loki banishing Sif offscreen when he was still pretending to be Odin at the time.
Tho she was also one of the many victims of the Snap, but thankfully Sif got Blipped back into existence by Hulk.
And then *Thor: Love and Thunder* happened where Sif lost her left arm to Gorr the God Butcher.
Honestly, Sif deserves better!
I really wish the Warriors Three were actual characters in those movies
Waste of Ray Stevenson
I think a lot of the write-off may have also been to her being the main character in Blindspot, but I don’t know what the timing of the filming was
@@jessicamagri8211 That was the real-world explanation, but the above fits as an in-universe explanation. Sif is the one of their friend group most likely to see through Loki's shit.
I had the hugest grin on my face during Omni's post-reaction. LOL
I think Sif was reacting to what she knew of the Terragenesis and how it was supposed to work, basically making mindless destructive weapons. She was not expecting the "weapon" to have free will, likely because she'd been told they wouldn't. She changed her mind once she realized her assumptions were wrong, and then she was thinking more about helping Skye and getting her help to control her powers, something that Asgardians clearly have some experience in doing. I'd like to see a What If.. on what if Skye had been trained by the Asgardians.
So glad Fitz is your favorite, same for me! I totally get your frustration with the Mack and Bobbi thing, it's not been too long since we found out when compared with other shows (The Flash I'm looking at you) but for this show it feels dragged out when looking at their track record.
It's so funny how episode 15 of season 1 and season 2 are reprieves from the serious stuff, and then every episode 15 afterward is just the darkest shit 😂
I just went to read the Wiki page for the episode, and I had forgotten about the absolutely GORGEOUS "Art of the Evolution" artworks that were created for the back-half of this season. Don't go looking at all of them because they are spoiler heavy, but the wiki for each episode has each episodes specific poster, and are worth checking out. The commitment to the show from all levels of production is outstanding.
These sequence of episodes are some of my favourite. Skye coming into her own, the team learning how to handle it. The division with mack and bobby having a different agenda and how everything comes to a head. Every episode keeps you om your feet and wanting to see what comes next
I love your reactions. This show just gets better and better. It’s so much fun going on this journey with you!!!
I felt betrayed by Mack and Bobbi too! I watched this show when it first aired and I've rewatched it many times and this whole plot made me so furious that I get mad again every time I rewatch it. Lol
What an amazing show. It is always keeps you on your toes:)
I think that elderly man was the same guy from Quantumania who said Thank you Spider-Man to Scott.
Jemma has always been my favorite character (I mean technically FitzSimmons is my favorite characters) but I agree that Fitz was the one in the right here.
And while I definitely understand why Jemma has been acting the way she is, I was 100% on Fitz's side with this situation
I think this is the last time lady sif appears on this show
Hey Omn1, this is the last time we saw Lady Sif in the MCU till Loki S1. She wasn’t in Ragnarok.
also the best part of this episode is the behind the scenes photos of Clark, Iain, Henry, and Nick at the pier wearing big floppy hats
*_Don't worry my guy! Like you mentioned, AoS has a tendencies of addressing things within a couple of episodes: Ward's turn was revealed to everyone on the team within 2 episode, so was Skye's new powers here and where Simmons was after the start of season 2. It is a staple of the show that, where other writers/shows would stretch the little secrets from the other characters or the audience for a very long time, AoS just puts it out in the open and explores the results of everyone knowing (They still have some main secrets that they stretch out, like how Coulson was alive in season 1, because the plot demands it, but more often than not they'll just let everything out in the open). So answers to your more pressing questions are coming soon! (But then again, that doen't mean that two more questions won't spring from each answer!... "Cut off one head: Two MORE shall take its place!")_* 😜
23:18 maybe your frustration is why you stopped watching, lol. Totally agree with you about Fitz! I made it to the end of season 4, but barely remember ANYTHING, just like you. One benefit of getting older. Your memory isn't as good and you can enjoy some things "for the first time" twice.
Also, May may have reacted the way she did with Skye when her powers came about due to something happening in the past…stay tuned 😏
I hated the whole bobby and Mack situation as well and I hated how they acted towards skye especially later on I won’t spoil it. Honestly Fitz is the best person since he wasn’t thinking emotionally like jemma.
Simmons was not nice to Fitz since his accident
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@@EclecticMuse4 it's true not false
Fitz is 100% my favorite!
When I first watched this episode I also thought he was a Frost Giant
The story here with Bobby and Mack is my least favorite in the series for pretty much the same reason. Some things related too it just take more time than they need to take and it sticks out among other quick turnarounds in the show
Mack is such a likable character, but man, is he ever a hypocrite.
You're right! It all comes from a well-meaning place but it all sucks! Also, my absolute outrage over what Mack did to Hunter at the end of this episode was when I realized that I had really come to like Hunter.
Mack - “Secrets are bad”. Bloody sanctimonious prick.
Look I love him particularly due to the way he treated Fitz but he is bloody annoying at points.
Haha 21:12 I said the same thing: Shut the fuck up Mack! He's my least favorite of the team.
I agree. Sometimes he has this “holier than though” attitude (or overactive moral compass? Idk how to describe it) that makes him kind of a prick to others when it comes to having to make hard choices
Remember, he's still recovering from being mind controlled by the alien city, so that probably played a role in his overreaction too.
For me, this whole Bobbi and Mack situation (and [redacted]) is the worst part of the entire AoS run. And even then, it still has some really good parts.
Skye/Daisy plot hard-carries this season. (For me, anyway.) So hang in there.
This episode kind of sets up the season finale in a way
This reminds me so much of X Men which is ironic since you're also reacting to X Men 97 lol
😂😂😂 you're frustration
He is a blue alien wielding a forget me stick all he needs a fish in a fishbowl with a robot body as his minion
I don’t remember where this took place in the timeline of the mcu aka which movie came out or about to come out when the second half of this season premiered
Second half of Season 2 was Age of Ultron.
@@Starsaber222 when this series was first discussed it seemed like it was going to be a big part of the mcu then it ended up being
Jaime Alexander is one of the most gorgeous women of all time
Inhumans just join the MCU.
LADY SIF 🥰
I love Mack, I do (and Henry Simmons is BRILLIANT); he's intelligent, empathetic and loyal, but also has the most unnattractive streak of hypocrisy (and this is just the beginning of it, and it gets worse... in my opinion) 😞
Total alien over reaction. It's not as if Skye's powerful enough to be the destroyer of worlds.
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We do a little foreshadowing
I kmow right
I'm sure everything will be perfectly fine. What's the worst that could happen?
Yeah, don’cha just LOVE it when you heal from BRAIN DAMAGE?…. Absolutely something that happens🤷♂️👍
Lmao I hate Mack & Bobbi for the next good while, at least like half a season
I never got the hate. Especially since Bobbi clearly likes Coulson and has no personal vendetta against Skye. She’s just doing what she thinks is in the best interest of the organization as a whole.
@@Jabberwocky415 yeah ig hate is a strong word, dislike their decision making is prob more accurate. Reminds me of how civil war & one side of that fight makes me feel. Annoyed w their character ig
@@scotthill1600 I guess that makes sense. Even in Civil War I understood both sides and wasn’t really annoyed with either team.
@@Jabberwocky415 lol my b again annoyed prob wouldn’t be right either, frustrated is the word I was looking for. Went from hate to frustrated, need to take better care when choosing adjectives
@@scotthill1600yeah, no worries. I think sometimes we see and hear “hate” so much that we use it too much too frequently, even though it is a very strong word/adjective
21:11 what a hypocrite
View 420, like 69. This episode is one of my faves in the series. Great reactions Omni. Keep it up❤
An awful depiction of Portugal but well, it's AOS, I forgive them.
Man, the Bobbi and Mack plot was so annoying. I love their characters but ugh