So with finger knife lady was a nod to daredevil. In the comics she was beaten by her husband and stayed loyal to him. This karla didn't stay loyal. I think it was more of an Easter egg with her
Culver University, where May recruited Dr. Garner, was the setting for Dr. Banner's experimentation that turned him into the Hulk. Angar the Screamer is from the comics, though his partner is somewhat better known.
The "Real SHIELD" plot line has, and will, always INFURIATE me! It's the only time in this show that Mack comes off as unlikable, and highlights how Bobbie is always a very good spy, but not necessarily always a very good person. At least, not when it comes to people. The good news is, once it's over... It. Is. OVER. It's never again referenced, in any capacity, whatsoever, and there's a lot going on during this plot, over to the side, that IS interesting, and worth getting through to get to seasons three, four, five six, and seven. Give, at least season 1 of Agent Carter a watch, if you haven't already.
Yeah I always hated it especially Gonzallis demanding the inhumans to obey him and not expect an outcome that’s why I was actually happy what jiaying did to him he was to full of himself.
I absolutely despised the whole "real" SHIELD plot. Phil Coulson was hand-picked by Fury. Phil Coulson fought a God, died, and then came back. Phil Coulson was an Avenger. Do they really think that anyone could be better than Phil Coulson?? They can keep their "real" SHIELD and every traitor working for them. My god. It's been 9 years and I'm still bitter about this. Lol
"Fury's dead." And "Who knows what that alien stuff and the memory implants have done to Coulson." The viewers are sympathetic to the Coulson Crew because those are the protagonists we have been following along with. We identify with them. (I did actually find it a somewhat annoying storyline. It's more plot device to add complications to the real plot that is happening.)
@dondumitru7093 I understood its purpose, but if I had infiltrated Phil's team, I would have figured out pretty quick that he was legit. The whole thing just felt shoehorned in to make the bigger plot work. This was a good writing team so I feel like this could have been done better.
@@dondumitru7093Yeah, I don't think the concept was bad. The problem js that they didn't do anything interesting with it. They talk about how "Real SHIELD" is supposed to be more transparent and democratic, but they never really show how that works. Imagine if all agents had the same clearance level, or the council members talked about wanting to get reelected, or if they had to hold a referendum on a big decision. That would actually draw some kind of contrast to how the two SHIELDs are being run differently and what the pros and cons are. Instead all the differences are pretty shallow and meaningless.
To be fair, when Fury handed the keys to Coulson he was already deemed "dead." After Winter Solider Fury was officially gone, and any remnants of SHIELD would know only to turn to who they can trust. Especially since a LOT of SHIELD had been Hydra. Imagine the confusion and the trauma.
Seriously. SHIELD has the technology to fix her hands, and as we can see here, the therapists who may have been able to help her deal with shit. Comic Book reference or not, she's so dumb here. And the fact that she held up against a top level SHIELD operative in Bobbi for more than 30 seconds is just laughable.
@@mydavegabicycle i always chalk this episode as a goofy episode that shows the funny charm of Skye's father while also slight progression on Skyes character
As you can see by the comments, the REAL shield is mocked and ridiculed by the fandom. although I will say the storyline inadvertently gave me one of my favorite trios
The term "enhanced" used here would be used by Captain America to describe his first encounter with Pietro in "Age of Ultron", which this season lines up with 👍😎
Welcome to the "Real" S.H.I.E.L.D., Omn1 😂 And we finally (we've known he existed since the end of S1) get to meet the former Mr. May AKA Andrew Garner 💙
In the comics, the distinction between given powers and being born with powers can be divided into 6 categories. (The MCU drastically changed these.) Early in humanity's history the Celestials came to Earth and experimented on primitive humanity creating three breeds. Eternals, Deviants, and "Normal Humans" Mutate - Because of Celestials experiments "Normal Humans" in Marvel can survive things that would kill people in real life. And surviving these dangerous things can cause "Normal" Marvel Humans to develop superpowers. Mutant - Celestial experiments also put the *Potential* to evolve powers inside the "Normal Humans", a long time later this manifested as the X Gene. Eternals - Unlike normal humans who had the potential to gain powers, the Celestials just gave the Eternals super Powers. They were an experiment in making the theoretical perfect form of humanity. Deviants - in contrast to the Eternals the Celestials took some humans and basically just made them into monsters. Inhumans - The Kree learned of the Celestials experiments on humanity and wanted to try it themselves. Because of the potential to evolve the Celestials put in Humanity, it worked really well. Some inhumans are even more powerful than some of the Eternals. Honestly, there's not a name for this category that doesn't sound offensive to me. - Any person with one human parent and one alien parent can potentially have superpowers.
I will never stop loving Cal. The more this season goes on, I love him more and more. Kyle Mclaughlin was perfect as Cal I can also never make myself like Jemma for the most part of this season. I understand her for the most part but she just irritates me so much this season. Maybe that's a bit harsh but I just can't get behind her reasoning and actions at all.
SPOILERS Yeah, I like them much more as the seasons continue, though it is fun to see their characters grow from this point. Like Jemma going from this intense fear to being very gentle and understanding and helping inhumans transition in later seasons :)
*_Indeed, each of the "Supervillains" Skye's dad assembled are comic book characters. The best and well made one, of course, being Angar The Screamer who, in the comics, is a Rock & Roll band singer with sonic powers from his voice; his character was slightly changed so that his voice would not blast through walls or whatnot but rather to put everyone hearing it to sleep (And I love the change and the design they did to him._* *_Granted, after Angar, the others were all very minor and not too powerful vilains but I think there are both in world and out world reasons for that, which are: 1) In the world of the MCU, at this conjuncture in time, there wasn't that many well known superpowered individuals in the MCU and, even if Skye's dad was able to get a peek at the indexed list, he would not neither have had access to the really powerful ones, such as Blondsky/Abomination at the Damage Control Supermax Prison, nor would he truly want to have them on his team as they could probably easily turn against him (He needed people he could manipulate and control, so ex military and/or genius level intellects were not what he would have selected). And 2) In real life, AoS were not about to be given any big, cool and well powered vilains from the comic books at that stage since, back the, we were still at the height of the feud between Marvel Studios and Marvel Entertainment as to which would get to use which vilains, on top of the MCU trying to keep their characters more down to Earth and with simple origins (Skye was the first inhuman introduced at this point and they had plans for the future, so they need different vilains for her Dad's team, so they weren't abut to introduce a mutant, to which they did not yet have the rights to, or a super-soldier or an alien character -Guardians of the Galaxy had just come out before season 2)._* _* So, it is what it is! But I like the little eclectic team that was put together as, in the end (Story Wise), they were not ment to be this great super-team of dread but rather a mismatched group of misfits that were way over their heads*_
I would lean more toward it being the one time she accidently redirected her powers on herself when trying to control them knowing that if she had an outburst it might hurt the wrong people, being the field of targets were too large and all the players good and bad were on it, @21:03.
This is seriously one of my favorite shows of all time, easily top 5 🤷🏻♂️ so happy your reacting to it! I’m still Holding out hope they’re brought back Into the MCU at some point ESPECIALLY after the Netflix Shows got retconned into existence 😭🙌
I liked the idea behind "real" SHIELD. One thing that annoyed me about AOS is that Winter Soldier established that the authoritarian, hyper-secretive way SHIELD was being run was wrong. But Coulson has mostly just been rebuilding it the same way. The idea of a "democratic" SHIELD sounded fascinating. Does everyone get the same security clearance? Do the agents get to elect who sits on the council? Do they hold referendums on major decisions? Unfortunately, none of these questions are addressed. If this council is any more democratic than the old WSC, we're not shown it. Completely wasted concept.
It's not even like the little scalpels were some special metal. Scalpels are only good for so many cuts before they're dulled beyond use. They should be as sharp as butter knives by this point.
Yea this episode is not one of the best ones, sometimes shield does these little terrible villains but the story still keeps getting better each season
The "terrible villain" thing is kind of the point of the episode. Cal has no resources at his disposal, other than the various freaks and weirdos SHIELD has left in its wake.
@@jackdubz4247 nah i get what they were going for but its also not intetional on aos part have badly written or mid villain characters it just sometimes happens to their side villains, like here he was walking around like he was collecting avengers but they got instantly taken down by coulson. Same issue is with few future mini villains that they just have a weak story
Real shield story would be ao much more compelling if they called themselves new shield or something else entirely. Calling themselves real shield just sounds childish
@dondumitru7093 yes they call themselves that but this not the only time it is said. I actually do like the meat of the story. I find the script execution at times leaves a lot to be desired. Saying new instead of real I think is better story telling
Sky is Naruto at this moment. Do you remember when Naruto was training to control his natural power and made his Shin Fūton: Rasenshuriken (Wind Release: Spiraling Shuriken)... Now Playing: The Raising Fighting Spirit🎶
Imo this is one of the weakest episodes of the series. And the only thing I like about the “Real SHIELD” is how Mack delivers the phrase. It’s an okay plot line, but not great. Definitely one of the weakest of the series.
@@dondumitru7093I agree with both of y'all but the Superior had at least some awesomeness happening around his story whereas "real SHIELD" was the main focus and dragged.
@@jayburn00 That's just how the world works, when you have ideological schisms. Just look at how moderate/corporatist Democrats see "extremist/leftist" people like Bernie Sanders or AOC.
With great power comes a ton of weird crap that you are not prepared to deal with.
Including parents.
It´s 50/50 on the parents. Chances are pretty good that when you get powers, your parents will be (or have already been) "permanently removed".
26:15 .."and Skye's father's now been kidnapped by 'Not-crawler' " 🤣🤣
So with finger knife lady was a nod to daredevil. In the comics she was beaten by her husband and stayed loyal to him. This karla didn't stay loyal. I think it was more of an Easter egg with her
Culver University, where May recruited Dr. Garner, was the setting for Dr. Banner's experimentation that turned him into the Hulk.
Angar the Screamer is from the comics, though his partner is somewhat better known.
the whole "real" SHIELD plot is probably my least favorite from the entire series, and I see I'm not alone in that 😂
The "Real SHIELD" plot line has, and will, always INFURIATE me! It's the only time in this show that Mack comes off as unlikable, and highlights how Bobbie is always a very good spy, but not necessarily always a very good person. At least, not when it comes to people.
The good news is, once it's over... It. Is. OVER. It's never again referenced, in any capacity, whatsoever, and there's a lot going on during this plot, over to the side, that IS interesting, and worth getting through to get to seasons three, four, five six, and seven.
Give, at least season 1 of Agent Carter a watch, if you haven't already.
Yeah I always hated it especially Gonzallis demanding the inhumans to obey him and not expect an outcome that’s why I was actually happy what jiaying did to him he was to full of himself.
Lady Scalpel fingers 😂
I absolutely despised the whole "real" SHIELD plot. Phil Coulson was hand-picked by Fury. Phil Coulson fought a God, died, and then came back. Phil Coulson was an Avenger. Do they really think that anyone could be better than Phil Coulson?? They can keep their "real" SHIELD and every traitor working for them.
My god. It's been 9 years and I'm still bitter about this. Lol
"Fury's dead." And "Who knows what that alien stuff and the memory implants have done to Coulson."
The viewers are sympathetic to the Coulson Crew because those are the protagonists we have been following along with. We identify with them.
(I did actually find it a somewhat annoying storyline. It's more plot device to add complications to the real plot that is happening.)
@dondumitru7093 I understood its purpose, but if I had infiltrated Phil's team, I would have figured out pretty quick that he was legit. The whole thing just felt shoehorned in to make the bigger plot work. This was a good writing team so I feel like this could have been done better.
@@dondumitru7093Yeah, I don't think the concept was bad. The problem js that they didn't do anything interesting with it. They talk about how "Real SHIELD" is supposed to be more transparent and democratic, but they never really show how that works. Imagine if all agents had the same clearance level, or the council members talked about wanting to get reelected, or if they had to hold a referendum on a big decision.
That would actually draw some kind of contrast to how the two SHIELDs are being run differently and what the pros and cons are. Instead all the differences are pretty shallow and meaningless.
To be fair, when Fury handed the keys to Coulson he was already deemed "dead." After Winter Solider Fury was officially gone, and any remnants of SHIELD would know only to turn to who they can trust. Especially since a LOT of SHIELD had been Hydra. Imagine the confusion and the trauma.
Scalpel Fingers being in the Index is the most underqualified power on that list 😂
Seriously. SHIELD has the technology to fix her hands, and as we can see here, the therapists who may have been able to help her deal with shit. Comic Book reference or not, she's so dumb here. And the fact that she held up against a top level SHIELD operative in Bobbi for more than 30 seconds is just laughable.
@@mydavegabicycle i always chalk this episode as a goofy episode that shows the funny charm of Skye's father while also slight progression on Skyes character
I always figured she would just do it again if they removed it. I don’t know.
As you can see by the comments, the REAL shield is mocked and ridiculed by the fandom. although I will say the storyline inadvertently gave me one of my favorite trios
The term "enhanced" used here would be used by Captain America to describe his first encounter with Pietro in "Age of Ultron", which this season lines up with 👍😎
Welcome to the "Real" S.H.I.E.L.D., Omn1 😂
And we finally (we've known he existed since the end of S1) get to meet the former Mr. May AKA Andrew Garner 💙
Kinda funny how he says at 18:27 "You are a science experiment" as if he wasnt one himself... inhumans are kree science experiments 😂
Oh my gosh that's so true 😂
I really like your S.H.I.E.L.D. reactions, do you ever intend to upgrade them to twice a week? I'm sure many many people would appreciate it!!
In the comics, the distinction between given powers and being born with powers can be divided into 6 categories.
(The MCU drastically changed these.)
Early in humanity's history the Celestials came to Earth and experimented on primitive humanity creating three breeds.
Eternals, Deviants, and "Normal Humans"
Mutate - Because of Celestials experiments "Normal Humans" in Marvel can survive things that would kill people in real life. And surviving these dangerous things can cause "Normal" Marvel Humans to develop superpowers.
Mutant - Celestial experiments also put the *Potential* to evolve powers inside the "Normal Humans", a long time later this manifested as the X Gene.
Eternals - Unlike normal humans who had the potential to gain powers, the Celestials just gave the Eternals super Powers. They were an experiment in making the theoretical perfect form of humanity.
Deviants - in contrast to the Eternals the Celestials took some humans and basically just made them into monsters.
Inhumans - The Kree learned of the Celestials experiments on humanity and wanted to try it themselves. Because of the potential to evolve the Celestials put in Humanity, it worked really well. Some inhumans are even more powerful than some of the Eternals.
Honestly, there's not a name for this category that doesn't sound offensive to me. - Any person with one human parent and one alien parent can potentially have superpowers.
This sets up for the rest of the season
Welcome to imo the worst episodes in the show with "real shield." I get why it happened and all, but I still think it's stupid.
I will never stop loving Cal. The more this season goes on, I love him more and more.
Kyle Mclaughlin was perfect as Cal
I can also never make myself like Jemma for the most part of this season. I understand her for the most part but she just irritates me so much this season.
Maybe that's a bit harsh but I just can't get behind her reasoning and actions at all.
I understand why Jemma and Mack are written the way they are here, but this period for their characters just feels inauthentic to me.
SPOILERS
Yeah, I like them much more as the seasons continue, though it is fun to see their characters grow from this point. Like Jemma going from this intense fear to being very gentle and understanding and helping inhumans transition in later seasons :)
Jemma’s suffering from Trip’s death. She knows she has some responsibility for it but wants to find someone else to blame.
*_Indeed, each of the "Supervillains" Skye's dad assembled are comic book characters. The best and well made one, of course, being Angar The Screamer who, in the comics, is a Rock & Roll band singer with sonic powers from his voice; his character was slightly changed so that his voice would not blast through walls or whatnot but rather to put everyone hearing it to sleep (And I love the change and the design they did to him._*
*_Granted, after Angar, the others were all very minor and not too powerful vilains but I think there are both in world and out world reasons for that, which are: 1) In the world of the MCU, at this conjuncture in time, there wasn't that many well known superpowered individuals in the MCU and, even if Skye's dad was able to get a peek at the indexed list, he would not neither have had access to the really powerful ones, such as Blondsky/Abomination at the Damage Control Supermax Prison, nor would he truly want to have them on his team as they could probably easily turn against him (He needed people he could manipulate and control, so ex military and/or genius level intellects were not what he would have selected). And 2) In real life, AoS were not about to be given any big, cool and well powered vilains from the comic books at that stage since, back the, we were still at the height of the feud between Marvel Studios and Marvel Entertainment as to which would get to use which vilains, on top of the MCU trying to keep their characters more down to Earth and with simple origins (Skye was the first inhuman introduced at this point and they had plans for the future, so they need different vilains for her Dad's team, so they weren't abut to introduce a mutant, to which they did not yet have the rights to, or a super-soldier or an alien character -Guardians of the Galaxy had just come out before season 2)._*
_* So, it is what it is! But I like the little eclectic team that was put together as, in the end (Story Wise), they were not ment to be this great super-team of dread but rather a mismatched group of misfits that were way over their heads*_
I would lean more toward it being the one time she accidently redirected her powers on herself when trying to control them knowing that if she had an outburst it might hurt the wrong people, being the field of targets were too large and all the players good and bad were on it, @21:03.
This is seriously one of my favorite shows of all time, easily top 5 🤷🏻♂️ so happy your reacting to it! I’m still
Holding out hope they’re brought back Into the MCU at some point ESPECIALLY after the Netflix Shows got retconned into existence 😭🙌
I watch this video and after I go watch the first episode of the Fallout tv show. Who do I see in both places? Kyle MacLachlan.
I liked the idea behind "real" SHIELD. One thing that annoyed me about AOS is that Winter Soldier established that the authoritarian, hyper-secretive way SHIELD was being run was wrong. But Coulson has mostly just been rebuilding it the same way.
The idea of a "democratic" SHIELD sounded fascinating. Does everyone get the same security clearance? Do the agents get to elect who sits on the council? Do they hold referendums on major decisions?
Unfortunately, none of these questions are addressed. If this council is any more democratic than the old WSC, we're not shown it. Completely wasted concept.
Another great reaction. If you did 2 a week, I would definitely watch! AoS is one of my all-time favorite shows
5:43... Hydra changed her a bit.
Have your learn calculus? Would be good to learn it from the best teacher
It's not even like the little scalpels were some special metal. Scalpels are only good for so many cuts before they're dulled beyond use. They should be as sharp as butter knives by this point.
Unless she sharpens them
@@jspettifer Plus the fact that they have been sheathed for a while.
“Not crawler” is so good lol
Yea this episode is not one of the best ones, sometimes shield does these little terrible villains but the story still keeps getting better each season
The "terrible villain" thing is kind of the point of the episode. Cal has no resources at his disposal, other than the various freaks and weirdos SHIELD has left in its wake.
@@jackdubz4247 nah i get what they were going for but its also not intetional on aos part have badly written or mid villain characters it just sometimes happens to their side villains, like here he was walking around like he was collecting avengers but they got instantly taken down by coulson. Same issue is with few future mini villains that they just have a weak story
Looks like they the fist team of villains in the MCU👍🏻, hey Omn1 👋🏻.
Real shield story would be ao much more compelling if they called themselves new shield or something else entirely. Calling themselves real shield just sounds childish
It really does undermine the trauma we eventually learn that they endured 😂
They just call themselves SHIELD. Mack saying "the real SHIELD" was him emphasizing their belief that Coulson's organization is not the "real" SHIELD.
@dondumitru7093 yes they call themselves that but this not the only time it is said. I actually do like the meat of the story. I find the script execution at times leaves a lot to be desired. Saying new instead of real I think is better story telling
Sky is Naruto at this moment. Do you remember when Naruto was training to control his natural power and made his Shin Fūton: Rasenshuriken (Wind Release: Spiraling Shuriken)... Now Playing: The Raising Fighting Spirit🎶
Oh yeah! Nice Connection!
That guy is on the Moon.
Imo this is one of the weakest episodes of the series. And the only thing I like about the “Real SHIELD” is how Mack delivers the phrase. It’s an okay plot line, but not great. Definitely one of the weakest of the series.
The "real SHIELD" storyline is the worst Storyline in the entirety of the show for me.
Oh, please. "The Superior" in an upcoming season is far worse.
@@dondumitru7093I agree with both of y'all but the Superior had at least some awesomeness happening around his story whereas "real SHIELD" was the main focus and dragged.
The real shield does seem to come out of left field. They are also kind of hypocrites.
@@jayburn00 That's just how the world works, when you have ideological schisms. Just look at how moderate/corporatist Democrats see "extremist/leftist" people like Bernie Sanders or AOC.