funny thing is, trevor linden screamed at benning to pick petterson and hughes and walked after arguments about those picks. You can argue that benning only good pick is boeser and jt miller trade
@PimpPhilth Linden said it in a deleted interview that benning didnt want petterson or hughes because of their size. Linden wanted them because of their skill and they went back and fourth on it afterwards for a while until Linden had enough and left
Forsling and hell markstrom had been through and never claimed on waivers multiple times before their breakout seasons. So easy to critcize these moves with hindsight Not gonna defend benning but he was clearly handcuffed by ownership in the beginning of his tenure. Just be glad the Canucks didn't become Buffalo-tier bad
Listing that lineup they "could" have had is wildly unrealistic because we have a salary cap. There's no way they keep all of those players to this day. Tkachuk would have wanted out anyway because he wanted to play in the US, and who knows what they would have gotten for him? That centre depth alone would have cost them their entire forward budget plus more. Otherwise, great points.
We definitely knew it was unrealistic, there's no way they could have kept all of those players and they didn't have 20/20 vision to predict that Pastrnak would be a 60+ goal scorer among every other mistake. The point was more to highlight how many errors have been forgotten about and how many opportunities the Canucks had in that timespan to make a move that could have set the franchise up for long-term success. Before this last season, they looked dead in the water. Tocchet woke them up and they're a great team now under Ruthorford but from fall, 2015 to spring, 2024, they hadn't played a single playoff game in their own arena. At the very least, why did they have to spend a quarter of their salary cap on bottom-6 players?
I know this is insanely nitpicky but losing Markstrom was totally fine, the guy had only a couple years left in him and signing him would force us to expose Demko to Seattle for the entry draft
Absolutely. Realistically, though, if they had kept him and then traded him later on, they could have avoided losing Demko to Seattle and gotten some value out of it, hopefully. Or the Canucks could have kept Toffoli and Tanev and tried to run back their 2020 success. Travis Hamonic, Nate Schmidt, and Braden Holtby, however...
My two favourite Canucks memories were when Green and Benning were fired and when I found out that Ekman-Larsson was bought out. I haven’t followed the Canucks closely for long (since like 2018 or 2019) but still. Idk what that says about management.
A great thing about this, is how many people in media and from fans saying "Benning was great at drafting players" Like... Yeah, great track record on that I legit forgot Holtby was ever even on the Canucks
@nh-yw3gc the channel urinating tree did detailed mockumentary style videos on both those teams highly reccomend. Look up leafs a half century of failure
Can you roast the Pierre Dorion Era in Ottawa next!? What a dumpster fire that team was for so long...still cleaning up his mess with a new owner and GM
I’ll be honest I’ve been trying to put the Bennington era behind me (my therapist says it’s not good for my rage), so I almost skipped this one. But I’m glad I didn’t because you managed to make it funny and it was somewhat therapeutic to look back on all the missteps and absolute flubs that were sold as hope by Jimbo and the boys. Plus the absolute spit take of a lineup you posted at the end. I think it’s easier to accept now that things are back on track and Allvin is busy building penguins west
The Canucks GM before Benning, Mike "if I haven't got something good to do, then why pretend to do anything good for the team" Gillis, WAS WORSE than Benning, who inhereted Gillis' team of almost nothing other than the aging twins. Seriously? Gillis... Ugh. THE WORST. The record is set straight. Cheers!
Given there is this minor thing called salary cap, that utopian dream lineup is not just unrealistic, it's impossible. So makes no sense even putting it up there.
Ya plenty of missed opportunities and unforced errors but he was GM into 2021 and they were good in 2024. The WORST GMs would leave a team in shambles where they couldn’t dig out in just 3 seasons.
Bro acts like the Cap doesnt exist with that lineup at the end. Also referring to dudeds by their Chel Ovr's is laughable. I feel dummer after watching this. And I lived the the Larry Plough years in STL.
@@emperoralvis6559 I mean, he had just come from Boston where we almost beat them, so maybe he had a little bit of hatred for us even tho he ended up winning it all that year.
i mean kesler asked to be traded to the ducks so not on benning there but firing a hall of fame coach like tortorella after just 1 season is pretty ridiculous. Obviously it sucks to see a guy lose his job but if i were them i would've either waited until after the first round 2015 playoff exit if they were to have stayed successful then if he had been still there or maybe midway into the 2014-15 season if they were to have had a rough start to the season. Seeing juice leae was rough but i kinda knew it would occur and im sure he was wanting to reunite with kes in anaheim. And while it wasn't cool to see hamhuis leave in free agency in 2016, i kinda saw it coming givne the cap situation and how his final 2 seasons wee somewhat injury marred. And Buying out Higgins and trading burrows certainly were rough moves if you ask me and shouldn't have happened.
@@unplugged123 or just quit whining like a little bitch about him demanding a trade cause its his career and he can do what is best for him and his family and friends. Not many people want to stay stuck in a rebuild and he gave everything he could to vancouver in the 11 years he was there. He wanted to keep giving himself more chances to chase cups cause obviously when you go through what he did in 2011 you never want that feeling to end and the canucks were slowly going into rebuild mode. He never went back to the cup finals again but he got a couple more solid chances having come just 1 win short from going back in 2015 and 2 wins short in 2017 so i'm glad he was able to do that before hanging them up
@@unplugged123 I mean, we had the chance to get a good player in Shea Theodore but he wanted Sbisa instead. Shea Theodore coulda been our Quinn Hughes until we drafted Hughes.
To be fair Virtanen was cleared of all charges, there's no proof that he did anything inappropriate with that girl. It's annoying that these days an allegation with zero proof is enough to destroy someones reputation
As a man and as a player, you should be above reproach, meaning you should never put yourself in a position of being able to be charged with anything. He clearly had character issues as he came to camp out of shape......He was a por teammate and had a bad attitude....in short, he was an idiot......
Benning was a yes-man for Francesco. He knew we needed a full rebuild, but instead of doing that he tried to do what Francesco wanted and ended up turning us into a lottery team with 0 cap room. Only just now are the Canucks competitive again after 9 years.
If all this wasn’t bad enough, the worst was a section of the Canuck fans aka Benning Bros who thought he could do no wrong and argued like Trump supporters as every time someone mentioned for letting Jud Brackett was that he was overrated yet had two drafts with over 70% hit on NHL games lol yeah overrated
It almost looks like Benning was developing players in Vancouver for Liiga...
funny thing is, trevor linden screamed at benning to pick petterson and hughes and walked after arguments about those picks. You can argue that benning only good pick is boeser and jt miller trade
Where did you hear that?
@PimpPhilth Linden said it in a deleted interview that benning didnt want petterson or hughes because of their size. Linden wanted them because of their skill and they went back and fourth on it afterwards for a while until Linden had enough and left
I remember Benning getting clowned on for that Miller trade lol
@@MrC37 broken clocks are right twice a day, if tampa drafted better that could have looked real bad
GM "I've lost more talent than your team can hope to ever have!"
That dream lineup would be so over the salary cap it wouldn't be funny
At least he didn't call Gretzky at 3am... 🙃
Can't be worse than Milbury
True
Fax at least Benning “drafted” Pettersson even though I heard he didn’t want him.
Trust me, Jim Benning has literally set us back 5 years
Bim Jenning is worse
@@davyjones4910 The Islanders are still paying Rick DiPietro and the contract was signed 18 years ago. 5 years is nothing :D
Forsling and hell markstrom had been through and never claimed on waivers multiple times before their breakout seasons.
So easy to critcize these moves with hindsight
Not gonna defend benning but he was clearly handcuffed by ownership in the beginning of his tenure. Just be glad the Canucks didn't become Buffalo-tier bad
Every move somehow gets worse lol this is legendary
Listing that lineup they "could" have had is wildly unrealistic because we have a salary cap. There's no way they keep all of those players to this day. Tkachuk would have wanted out anyway because he wanted to play in the US, and who knows what they would have gotten for him? That centre depth alone would have cost them their entire forward budget plus more. Otherwise, great points.
Yeah that was such a stupid point lol. Does this guy not know what a salary cap is?
It's obviously unrealistic, but its mainly just to show HOW MUCH insane talent the canucks have missed out on because of idiotic mistakes. It's wild
We definitely knew it was unrealistic, there's no way they could have kept all of those players and they didn't have 20/20 vision to predict that Pastrnak would be a 60+ goal scorer among every other mistake.
The point was more to highlight how many errors have been forgotten about and how many opportunities the Canucks had in that timespan to make a move that could have set the franchise up for long-term success. Before this last season, they looked dead in the water. Tocchet woke them up and they're a great team now under Ruthorford but from fall, 2015 to spring, 2024, they hadn't played a single playoff game in their own arena.
At the very least, why did they have to spend a quarter of their salary cap on bottom-6 players?
I guess he is just making a point to show how poorly it all ad up. 😌
Benning was lucky to get Hughes if not for Holland's blunder.
Keep making videos, they are really good and entertaining
shoutout from Latvia
Ive never seen a GM give picks away for free like Benning
Good lord you Canucks line up at the end would have been so goated haha
I know this is insanely nitpicky but losing Markstrom was totally fine, the guy had only a couple years left in him and signing him would force us to expose Demko to Seattle for the entry draft
Absolutely. Realistically, though, if they had kept him and then traded him later on, they could have avoided losing Demko to Seattle and gotten some value out of it, hopefully.
Or the Canucks could have kept Toffoli and Tanev and tried to run back their 2020 success.
Travis Hamonic, Nate Schmidt, and Braden Holtby, however...
@@bigheadhockey oh for sure the rest of the moves were abysmal😂 even having just Toffoli back would've been helpful🥲
definitely the worst GM in modern NHL history
My two favourite Canucks memories were when Green and Benning were fired and when I found out that Ekman-Larsson was bought out. I haven’t followed the Canucks closely for long (since like 2018 or 2019) but still. Idk what that says about management.
Public enemy no. 1 in every canucks fan’s eyes.
Him and Mark Messier.
No. Thats Mark Messier. Hes Public Enemy no. 3. Mike Keenan is no. 2.
It's like nobody read a book and now they think they can?
I’ve been really enjoying your vids bro. Keep up the hard work. I hope to see more this offseason and during the season!
Worst Canucks GM I've ever seen in my life!
A great thing about this, is how many people in media and from fans saying "Benning was great at drafting players"
Like... Yeah, great track record on that
I legit forgot Holtby was ever even on the Canucks
Holtby might be sh*t for the Canucks. We Caps fans appreciated him because we wouldn't have won the Cup without him. His 2018 playoff run was unreal.
IIRC, Benning could've traded for Vince Dunn, but he traded for Dickenson instead, and then we added a pick to get rid of Dickenson.
That OEL trade still haunts me to this day, brutal work by Jimmy
im a sharks fan and think these vid are so entertaining learning more about my team that i didn't know
Maybe you can make detailed video ( like u did about Sharks ) about Leafs and their failures from 2000s to these days!? Tht would be nice
@nh-yw3gc the channel urinating tree did detailed mockumentary style videos on both those teams highly reccomend. Look up leafs a half century of failure
that would be a 10 part HBO documentary...
When Bonino was traded to PIT...
BONINO BONINO BONINO
*"Alex Meruelo Has Entered The Chat"*
he is a team owner not a GM
Nothing makes me happier than seeing how far competent management has taken this team
Can you roast the Pierre Dorion Era in Ottawa next!? What a dumpster fire that team was for so long...still cleaning up his mess with a new owner and GM
Let’s not forget he also threw coach Green under the bus by leaving all the press up to the coach while the team was devastated by Covid.
Benning was clueless
I’ll be honest I’ve been trying to put the Bennington era behind me (my therapist says it’s not good for my rage), so I almost skipped this one. But I’m glad I didn’t because you managed to make it funny and it was somewhat therapeutic to look back on all the missteps and absolute flubs that were sold as hope by Jimbo and the boys. Plus the absolute spit take of a lineup you posted at the end. I think it’s easier to accept now that things are back on track and Allvin is busy building penguins west
Bro use NHL rating every video on every player 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can't blame Benning when his boss Aqua man gave him the sole power without conferencing with others. What a job this owner and GM tandem was!
*JOKE
The Canucks GM before Benning, Mike "if I haven't got something good to do, then why pretend to do anything good for the team" Gillis, WAS WORSE than Benning, who inhereted Gillis' team of almost nothing other than the aging twins. Seriously? Gillis... Ugh. THE WORST. The record is set straight. Cheers!
And the aftermath was the second coming of the Torts disaster (2014) in 2022-23 before the Nucks finally turned it around
Given there is this minor thing called salary cap, that utopian dream lineup is not just unrealistic, it's impossible. So makes no sense even putting it up there.
Rob Blake is the modern day Jim Benning
the perspective team at the end is not cap compliant in any way.
He’s really not, there are so many worse GMs across the league
Ya plenty of missed opportunities and unforced errors but he was GM into 2021 and they were good in 2024. The WORST GMs would leave a team in shambles where they couldn’t dig out in just 3 seasons.
Bro acts like the Cap doesnt exist with that lineup at the end. Also referring to dudeds by their Chel Ovr's is laughable. I feel dummer after watching this. And I lived the the Larry Plough years in STL.
Canadian teams are not trying to win a cup.
Thats the plan.
I have a feeling that Benning just hated the Canucks got away with destroying them from the inside for 7 full years.
@@emperoralvis6559 I mean, he had just come from Boston where we almost beat them, so maybe he had a little bit of hatred for us even tho he ended up winning it all that year.
@@IanStrain23328 fair enough. Keenan did the same after his time with rangers
Yeah Benning was terrible but his worst offence was being horribly mediocre/incompetent.
He's no Harold Ballard.
HB wasn't a GM..
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i mean kesler asked to be traded to the ducks so not on benning there but firing a hall of fame coach like tortorella after just 1 season is pretty ridiculous. Obviously it sucks to see a guy lose his job but if i were them i would've either waited until after the first round 2015 playoff exit if they were to have stayed successful then if he had been still there or maybe midway into the 2014-15 season if they were to have had a rough start to the season. Seeing juice leae was rough but i kinda knew it would occur and im sure he was wanting to reunite with kes in anaheim. And while it wasn't cool to see hamhuis leave in free agency in 2016, i kinda saw it coming givne the cap situation and how his final 2 seasons wee somewhat injury marred. And Buying out Higgins and trading burrows certainly were rough moves if you ask me and shouldn't have happened.
then u play hard ball with kesler. sit the big baby out until he expands his trade list.
@@unplugged123 or just quit whining like a little bitch about him demanding a trade cause its his career and he can do what is best for him and his family and friends. Not many people want to stay stuck in a rebuild and he gave everything he could to vancouver in the 11 years he was there. He wanted to keep giving himself more chances to chase cups cause obviously when you go through what he did in 2011 you never want that feeling to end and the canucks were slowly going into rebuild mode. He never went back to the cup finals again but he got a couple more solid chances having come just 1 win short from going back in 2015 and 2 wins short in 2017 so i'm glad he was able to do that before hanging them up
@@unplugged123 I mean, we had the chance to get a good player in Shea Theodore but he wanted Sbisa instead. Shea Theodore coulda been our Quinn Hughes until we drafted Hughes.
To be fair Virtanen was cleared of all charges, there's no proof that he did anything inappropriate with that girl. It's annoying that these days an allegation with zero proof is enough to destroy someones reputation
even putting yourself in those kinda positions and situations is enough of a red flag for me to not draft a fat gongshow like that
As a man and as a player, you should be above reproach, meaning you should never put yourself in a position of being able to be charged with anything. He clearly had character issues as he came to camp out of shape......He was a por teammate and had a bad attitude....in short, he was an idiot......
Jim benning made Canucks fans lives miserabke for years lol ( mine included) haha
This video made me sad
Sorry... Canucks are in a much better place now!
@@bigheadhockey happy we have capable management now though
I think Dorion could him a run for his money
and Holland
Nobody is worse than Lou
Wasn't as bad any of the Sabres general managers (I'll go hide now).
Benning really that bad? Or was he Francesco puppet
Benning was a yes-man for Francesco. He knew we needed a full rebuild, but instead of doing that he tried to do what Francesco wanted and ended up turning us into a lottery team with 0 cap room. Only just now are the Canucks competitive again after 9 years.
If all this wasn’t bad enough, the worst was a section of the Canuck fans aka Benning Bros who thought he could do no wrong and argued like Trump supporters as every time someone mentioned for letting Jud Brackett was that he was overrated yet had two drafts with over 70% hit on NHL games lol
yeah overrated
FORSLING MENTIONED 🫵
Its almost worth reuploading your video so you can include the braindead quote he gave of "We live day to day"
He was bad, but definetly not the worst of all time, even recently. Chiarelli was worse