I thought this episode was pretty good. One detail I appreciate is that the regs are so focused on completing their own objectives that they'll literally blow up a tank with their fellow soldiers inside without hesitation. Something like that would *never* have happened during the Clone Wars
When they came home and Omega was like “yeah I paid off your debt” and she explains it’s because she’s good with strategies, I immediately thought “so she’s going to be there strategist. She’s going to help them work around problems in their plans and complete their missions successfully.” Idk, she’s still a kid, but that was my first thought
that’s what they need. Hunters a good battlefield leader but not long term statsgist or director so without a goal he can loose control of the situation do to being unprepared. After all the bad batch weren’t front line soldiers they were blitz raiders. They did short battles or raids not prolonged fights. Wrecker needs direction in where to use his exsplosives and brawn correctly. Don’t and he’s most likely to do a Leroy jekens and charge the front to early. Tech needs to be rained in and forced to share his information for plans, because right now he doesn’t share anything. while he also needs directives on what is a threat because he has a habit of underestimating a lot of things. While echo needs order. He could lead and become similar to Rex but old habits die hard and he needs to gain experiences which requires good direction. As of right now he’s lacking in a sense of freedom and personality because this is the first time he’s ever had it, and sadly his freedom came at a time of vary little control.
Yeah, I am wondering if Omega being Nala Se's medical assistant is more of a cover or something since Episode 1 of the series she has shown abilities that go beyond that job title such as when she precisely shot Crosshair's rifle out of his hand then started blasting without much aiming and then claiming she had never fired a blaster before that moment and now she may be a master strategist or at least has been taught that skill.
I feel like we need a little more of Tech moving forward. Hunter, Wrecker, Echo, and Omega are all likable characters with depth, but Tech is a little too robotic. I was hoping we’d get some more emotional depth to him and Omega on the Venator bridge.
Same, the conversation about the war could have been so interesting and to hear what a clone would say about the war, but sadly they were interrupted after a few seconds. I guess the episodes are too short for a one Minute dialogue about the war. Would have been great
As much as I like Omega. I feel like she is too much of a focus of the show. It’s like she took something away from the our male clone characters. I feel like at the end of the series she’ll be a more developed character then Tech, Echo, and Crosshairs and that kinda bothers me. When watching season 7 of clone wars I was excited to see more of clone force 99, and looking at this season it’s like omega got in the way of that. Still a lovable character.
I definitely agree, and personally I would say the same thing about Echo, too. I liked what they did with him in this episode but I don’t like how that’s pretty much the most character they’ve given him so far. I feel like they could do so much with his past from the clone wars- I loved how he used his past with Tarkin to help his squad in the first episode, but then they never do anything like this again, and that was especially disappointing to me in the episode with Rex, a character he had a well developed relationship with but only ended up having like three lines with in this show. In addition, I feel like they could do so much more with the fact that he was a reg, that he doesn’t really fit in as well with the rest of the batch, or his really traumatic past. Instead, the most we really get from him is being the sort of grumpy voice of reason, like a proto-Crosshair. I just feel like he could be so much more.
Would be great if just Tech got into a situation where his emotions take over his training or “programming” and he finally realizes that he’s more than what the Kaminoens made him
he's actually my favourite lol, though wrecker is growing on me a lot. i know it's an important part of his arc to join the batch but i still consider echo part of domino squad because otherwise he'd by far and away be my favourite
*Endgame: Omega Versus Thrawn.* Battle Meditation Strategists. The Kiners blew me out o' the water with that score again! Beautiful art, spectacular strategies and animation, an excellent plot, and hilarious humor that hits all the delivery points with surprise. This was a huge setup for a future episode, if not the end of the season or series...
I like how this show shares similarities with the overall narrative of the Mandalorian but is also different enough to not feel repetitive. Whereas Grogu was a mission for Mando at first and then later grew into the role of an adoptive son, Omega is more than just a passive character but rather an important member of the Bad Batch squad. She isn't just an asset who the batch must protect, but brings her own skills to the table. Hunter leaving her with Cid for her own safety but later forgetting that Omega wasn't with them was a good visualisation of her importance; she might not be as experienced as the rest of the batch but they're learning to see her as a valuable squad member, and by the end of the episode it feels as though Hunter is coming to terms with that.
This episode got me curious about the rules of Dejarik. Apparently it is less like chess and more like Fire Emblem or a strategy video game where the peices have hit points, attack ratings, and special moves. I never knew that!
@@kilimanjarocruz660 He did. He became the new Partisans leader after the death of Saw Gerrera, until his faction was infiltrated and wiped out by Inferno squad. When Iden confronted him, he revealed his life as a senator before joining Saw’s rebellion, before then being stunned from Iden’s blaster.
I think that being good at strategic thinking is just a genetic trait of Jango Fett. There was a reason that he was chosen as the template and a reason he was successful as a bounty hunter, the fact that he died doing something tactically unwise doesn't negate that. Omega's the oldest member of the Bad Batch in terms of actual days spent alive, and probably had little else to do other than help Nala Se do science and play Dejarik for about a decade, and I bet that studying how this largely unmodified clone performed doing strategic tasks was a source of data for Nala Se as well.
Senator Singh's hat reminds me of the one the lizard general wore in Genndy's Clone Wars, wondering how many Jedi they'd send. Like the humour with the Weequay being the bar buddy of the Pantoran, his and the Ithorian's disgust at Sid being tough on Omega. The easter eggs and homages in general
I like how this episode highlights the changes in the clones and how they are willing to adopt empire tactics. Like when the walker fires upon the walker the batch are using to escape when there are regs still inside. They are willing to kill eachother for their objectives. Very empire.
I think we'll all appreciate these slower episodes a lot more once the whole season is out. The fact that we have to wait weekly for each episode makes the fandom want each episode to be some crazy reveal.
Loved this episode, especially when it comes to dealing with Echo, which has a strong bond with the republic who fought against the Seperatists, who now needs to save his former enemy. This episode sure did gave Echo a huge role
I'm only catching up to Bad Batch now but I was not a big fan of Echo's role here. His animosity towards the Separatists in particular is cool and makes sense but I don't think its resolved in a very satisfying way. There's the scene where the separatist tells them about the secret passage and to trust him but he says that to tech and hunter, and wrechers the one to blow up the wall, Echo could've had a nice role there especially sincehe was the one most vocal about the distrust. Its cool that he talks to the senator when they leave about "fighting another day" but that doesn't rly have anything to do with the whole distrust conflict. Not a big fan of the ep for this reason and Echo's relationship with Cid basically being resolved offscreen.
I love Echo saying live to fight another day. Just think about what he's been through... Putting myself in Echo's shoes, almost brought me to tears in that moment. Filoni is a MASTER storyteller and character developer at this point.
Actually Gursimran Sandhu was the main writer of this episode and Filoni isn’t even a head writer or supervising (the head writer is Jennifer Corbett and supervising director is Brad Ray). So storytelling points to them :)
@@fanfusion4276 touch... Although I think the girls without saying that those guys go uncredited with lots of "direction" that is given to the writers.
@Colin Fitzgerald I’d imagine he gives generally story tips and everything for each episode seeing as he’s an executive producer. Similar to George’s role on TCW
I thought it was really cool seeing the recontextualization of the AT-TEs. All through the Clone Wars they were this big symbol of liberation and seeing them become a symbol of oppression by marching on the protestors was a really cool 'Empire using the symbols of the Republic for evil' moment
We needed a bit lower stakes to an episode after the Bracca two parter and Bora Vio, and I think this episode did that perfectly. There's still a lot of good action centered around a pretty bog-standard plot, which is what I think we needed to get a breather in. Plus, it was cool to see some more technical aspects of how AT-TEs work from the crews perspective with the egress hatches on the sides and top.
Worth noting Avi Singh was voiced by Alexander Siddig, making him join Brent Spiner and George Takei as "Star Trek" cast members to voice a character in "Star Wars" (and I'm pretty sure making him the first "Star Trek"/"Star Wars"/"Game of Thrones" actor?).
I was shocked he played Senator Singh, specially because DS9 is my favorite Star Trek series, and because Clone Wars and that show was suprisingly familiar. Also fun to thinking about that with him, after Jessica Henwick was in the Force Awakens, Pedro Pascal of course, and that India Varna will appear in the Kenobi series, every Star Wars Era has a member of House Martell.
Another great Batch Episode. Did anyone notice the goof at the beginning? The minister tells the droid to carry out his plans and the droid starts walking away from the imperial officer. A moment later the officer calls in the Walkers and the droid is by her side again. Small editing goof.
This was one of my favorite episodes all considered, but I definitely see how people can dislike it or at least prefer the other episodes more. I'm a sucker for world building, which this did a lot of. I also enjoyed seeing the squad battle it out without being physically hindered by dragging Omega with them. It felt like they could move faster and be more physical without Omega around. At the same time, Omega being a strategic genius makes sense to me as a direct clone of one of the best bounty hunters ever. I agree that she might even be further enhanced by the Kaminoans.
This was a nice stand-alone episode as it dealt with the Bad Batch having to rescue a Senator on the planet Raxus only that he's a Separatist much to their disdain and animosity towards them especially Echo as the Techno Union made him into a machine back in the Bad Batch arc from Clone Wars. Even it brings in New hindsight from the view of a Separatist leader following the Rise of the Galactic Empire. Lastly I love the little sideplot where Omega who has to stay behind by the group and plays a pro at Dejarik and is able to get the Bad Batch enough money while at the same time playing off the Debt from Cid.
I really liked this episode. I love seeing the parallels between the Separatists and the Rebels as well as the transition from the Republic to the Empire with the clones acting like stormtroopers. Also it’s makes sense Hunter would make Omega sit out the mission, she is a kid after all.
I liked the beauty of Raxxas and seeing Echo begin to shift into a different mindset. Omega's cunning strategy was good to see and explains there's still more of her we need to learn about. I also like we get to see a little more of Cid's character as well.😁
I wish they would have expanded more upon the senator being a separatist and him being rescued by former republic forces. They really didn’t have any dialogue between the group.
If a Kurdish rebel and Syrian soldier find themselves both shooting at ISIS do you think they will have a long conversation to discuss the ethics and politics?
@@ChevyChase301 This is Star Wars, not real life. The writers were able to put in jokes throughout the conflict, as is normal for Star Wars content. Couldn’t they have a scene after they escape when they’re on the ship? I was kind of expecting it, instead of a jump cut back to Cid and Omega. Also, don’t you think a separatist senator would wonder why a squad of clones who are known for being genetically engineered to follow orders of the Republic/Empire without question are rescuing him? Could have made for an interesting conversation.
Loved the episode in its simplicity. Things going sideways to extreme extends is done so much nowadays that a more smooth mission is a nice change! Really enjoyed seeing how the bad batch executed their mission, enlightening how competent they are as a squad.
There are actually at least six chromosome types identified in humans, and XX isn't always found in those we label as female. Omega being femme in appearance is clearly an alteration of sorts, but it isn't exactly major. A minor tweak would be all it would take. If Omega really is the true fifth supercharged clone, then there has to be more to her than the obvious difference.
Definitely feels like there wasn't nearly enough ideological conflict between the governor/droid and the Bad Batch, and any there was got resolved way too quickly. Would've been nice if they had traded barbs or had a simmering layer of resentment that got a dialogue going. Echo had his doubts, but he really pivoted too quickly from not trusting the Seps at all to trusting the governor right at the end.
Going back to Raxus was awesome. Speaking of I wonder whether we'll see Lux, because he is definitely still around at this point in time, although I don't recall if he was still the senator of Onderon.
@@jackallen6601 I recall she has a daughter affiliated to the Empire, old enough to find Imperial officials who would offer leniency to him in Inferno Squad's book. This would make him joining the partisans actively right away unlikely, although this doesn't mean he would not have supported them (more or less how Organa did)
It felt strange that the Batch and the Senator never had, like, a conversation. They hate him on principle and I bet he's surprised and wary to see clones come to his rescue, but they just kind of ignore the divide that was established after the Batch breaks him out of jail.
Loved the worldbuilding in this episode, and a nice little side story for Cid and Omega. The battle in the city was an incredible callback to WW2 movies.
This was actually my favourite episode. As a Seppie myself, I can’t tell you how good it felt to see Raxus again. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I’ve written a fan fiction that’s quite similar to the plot of this episode; that is, a monarch of a Confederacy-aligned planet that was deep in Separatist space and now had to deal with the emerging Imperial threat to its sovereignty, so I really liked this episode. I hope we see more Separatist appearances on this show.
I enjoyed this episode, especially after calming down from the roller coaster of the last 2. I really like that senator, and I love the joke with the vase. It went from a mediocre gag, to a good brick joke, to an amazing payoff moment.
Something I really liked was that they shuned the droid for caring about an aincent Vase, or in other words culture. Something people say only humans could appriciate while robots, or droids, would never be able to appreciate such things.
Liked the Voice Cast on this one: Alexander Siddig (ST: DS9) as the Senator and Sian Clifford ("Flebags" sister) as GS-8. And every time, Omega sounds especialy "new-zealand-ish", I just have to smile.
This was actually my favorite episodes so far. What I like most about the show (besides Omega's whole thing) is that it shows us how the Galaxy reacts and transitions to the Empire. And seeing that happen on Raxus was really cool. That really reminded me of the political intrigue factor that Clone Wars had in some of its arcs. And I think they will lean more into the separatists side of things, now that they will basically be the good guys. I think that will be important, especially for Andor. Also, the action in this episode was absolutely top notch!
I like how the droid was talking about following orders, down to the letter. While omega kinda went abit Skywalker on the batch (doing something completely different to what the mission she was given. but what she does is also important. Like how in this episode her sidetrack cleared the batches debt). It could just be me, but I did find it abit out of nowhere how omega has great statistical knowledge. And the episode was also abit of a reminder of how i have no clue how that starwars chess works
Woah he actually gave a less than stellar review? That's rare. I loved the episode to see that old school ARC Trooper elite commandeering of tanks we haven't seen since the vintage 2D Clone Wars series.
this is one of my favorite episodes so far. precisely for the reasons you said. after the past couple of episodes we need a breather. not every shoe can pull off constant action.
It's kind of fun watching a generation of people that are used to streaming, binging, and getting all of their answers immediately in an afternoon of viewing, suffer through weekly shows. This is how it was folks, for many decades. I think it also has a lot to do with how we break down, or criticize an episode.
It was a fun episode, and I especially also liked how they stunned the imperial clones instead of killing them. Hopefully we see the female Imperial officer again.
I like Senator Singh because he straight-up is not a Star Wars character. He has a normal earth name, he looks like someone from the 1800s or something, and he uses the word “draconian”, which makes no sense because he is in outer space and there was no Draco.
The last scene of this episode was great. Hunter is coming to terms with what every guardian has to come to terms with: kids grow up and need more trust and autonomy as they do.
Is it my imagination or were the AT-TEs taller in this episode than they were in either The Clone Wars or in the two episodes of Rebels that they were in? In CW & Rebels, the bottom of the hull of the AT-TE is just slightly taller than the heads of a clone trooper but the AT-TEs in the Bad Batch episode Common Ground, seemed to me to be at least three times taller than the older ones Why?
Loved this episode, if mainly for the fantastic cinematography and seeing the slow tank chase through the streets. Mad prequel/clone wars vibes, and showing how the Batch are still sore at Separatists even though what used to be the Republic is now the enemy was great!
Next week’s episode is called “Deal with the devil” how awesome would it be if the bad batch ran into Crimson Dawn? They obviously wouldn’t interact with Maul himself but Dryden Vos is certainly a possibility. It’s a perfect parallel to the current War of the Bounty Hunters comics seeing them in their prime verses their revival.
The world building in this series is amazing!!! Seeing the efects of the expanssion of the Empire, the beggining of the political arrests and toture... So smart!
I actually really liked this episode. I felt like it was good to see CF99 operate in a way that they were probably used to before worrying about Omega. I liked the droid a lot, and I almost wanted it to be part of the team. I liked seeing the CIS balk at the Empire just as much as the rebel factions were, possibly hinting at how the Alliance was able to pull in so many systems so quickly. I think my only down side was there was no Imperial space presence once the Batch was leaving. As soon as they cleared the treetops they were safe. It reminds of how low stakes every story on Rebels felt. Like the Empire has JUST enough manpower to put 20 stormtroopers and a lieutenant planetside, but that's it.
In the case of Rebels I think it was more that with the ghost's signal scrambling and the fact that Lothal was such a small outpost they usually managed to escape before things could get too hairy. They did destroy multiple capitol class ships, but I think The Emperor didn't want to draw too much attention to Lothal... and probably after they lost the Sith Superweapon the Emperor dialed back the pressure a bit cause he wanted Ezra to open the time portal for him.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Absolutely loved this episode. It was a simple episode, but it did make me fall in love with The Bad Batch and Omega. I also loved the cute and peaceful ending scene where Hunter and his daughter play hologram chess together silently and the screen fades to black and then the credits. It was such a nice, cute and peaceful scene. Mainly because of the lockdowns in Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺 , I've just been obsessed with this episode and the show as a whole. Unfortunately Devil's Deal lived up to its name 😂 Cheers and peace.
I feel as though there alot of missed opportunities in this episode. Early on Hunter is hesitant to work with the separatist. I wanted them to delve deeper into it since the Rebublic is now the Empire and the Batch are very close with ant-facist separatist ideas. I wanted them to acknowledge that the Batch are now Rebels and therefore separatist in there own way
Ive always felt like the rebels and separatist are very very close and that its dumb that we saw the Empire is bad in one trilogy and the Republic is seen as the good guys in the next. What changed other than Palpatine being out and proud as a Sith Lord. The senate was corrupt- Palpatine said himself that "he was the Senate"
There are mixed reviews to this episode but I appreciate how they showed whats going on after the war and shows a little bit of what happens to the separatists after the war.
Haven't anyone realized that Omega, because she is a 1st Gen clone, is the Bad Batch's ELDER SISTER? She may look younger but in galactic turns, she is almost as old as Alpha (Boba).
She's not a first gen clone she just the last clone that used Jango samples there's a difference. Omega was probably made after the Battle of Geonosis using Jango's corpse.
@@mightheal We know that Rex is also a 1st Gen clone, just like Boba. But Rex went through augmentation and rapid aging. CF99 are possible 2nd or 3rd Gen clones ... 2nd Gen clones from 1st Gen Clones. (This is when the clone sample becomes degraded.) This is because the Republic needed clone troopers as fast as the Separatists could produce droids troopers.
@@myyklmax Yes we know. That has nothing to do with when they were made. There would have been multiple generations before the clone wars even started just for the simple fact of hitting the size of a army.
I hope Echo gets a chance to reminisce on his old squad, maybe with Omega if she asks how he joined the Bad Batch. Maybe in the background he might have, but I feel like he's carrying some sort of survivor's guilt since he's the only one left. He barely even got a chance to with Rex sadly. Come to think of it, I dunno how much Star Wars has ever delved into PTSD with any characters who have been in said wars.
A small detail I like is that the Batch stun the clones instead of killing them. It makes sense they wouldn’t want to unnecessarily kill their brothers.
A very simple episode, but a very necessary one too, the Batch finally seeing eye to eye with Separatists and having their ideologies adapted, as well as finally getting off their debt to Cid, means they can do other things with a more open mind
liked it a lot, the AT-TE stuff was fun and it was really interesting to see first hand how the Empire now controls the Seperatists. can't help myself but to feel sorry for them.
This episode was such a missed opportunity. It really just felt like a lot of visual noise. For an episode set in the Separatist capitol, with the Batch forced to work with a Separatist, no one's thoughts were challenged like in prior episodes. I doubt Echo thinks any different about the Separatists after this episode, neither any of the Bad Batch. The mission could have been on any other planet doing practically anything else and the story beats would have been relatively the same. With exception to the opening, the writers didn't really take advantage of such a significant setting to tell anything worth of note. The B plot with Omega was honestly more engaging that the extraction on Raxus.
I noticed that they were stunning the regs as well. It feels like a rarely seen thing in Star Wars using the stun setting. If anything they use it more often in Star Trek. I can understand why Echo was at first ify about helping a former separatist. It's a good episode and I enjoyed it.
My only problem with this episode is I wish we could have had a conversation with that pro sepretist senator and the BB about his reasons for leaving the republic in the first place. Would have had a deep conversation their.
5:20 I laughed when they also Stunned Captain Bragg, i can only imaginé her Being humiliated after she learned Avi Singh and the Bad batch escaped even though she is still the captain of the Planet Also did You know that the droid she was gonna use to torture him was the same one that was used by Darth Vader in a new hope
This episode is great. It would seem bad batch is using non lethal fully. But one gripe I have for the show is the lack of any other clone armor beside the plain p2 troopers. No pilots and gunners all we see is plain p2 troopers which is weird maybe the empire retired all of the other armor or the budget was dried up so they just used plain p2.
To say this is a weak episode when it is still amazing overall is still an awesome compliment. I loved the emotional feels this one gave and I felt genuine sympathy for the senator. :)
I must say, i really hope Hunter won that last chess match... it was so nice to see the squad go on a mission where they weren't having to baby sit/rescue omega. I really hope her newfound strategic skills means she can add something to the crew because i really realized watching this episode have omega be so young might not be a good thing since she has a hard time taking care of herself (except for the weird moments where she does a better job than the 4 badass veteran commandos out of the blue because plot?). I really like her and maybe its just because we just had an arch of rescuing her but it feels like she cant be a part of the team until she can look after herself.
I believe you missed a bit of development on Sid's part. Remember at the beginning of the episode she didn't lie that she had to be babbysitter to Omega while the Batch was off on the Mission. Sid saw Omega as just a bother. But at the end she changed her tune with the line " Hey that kid just made enough money to pay of your debt to me, so lay off my friend." Friend. it may be a mercenary type friendship, but Sid is now on Omegas side. :-)
I thought this episode was pretty good. One detail I appreciate is that the regs are so focused on completing their own objectives that they'll literally blow up a tank with their fellow soldiers inside without hesitation. Something like that would *never* have happened during the Clone Wars
When they came home and Omega was like “yeah I paid off your debt” and she explains it’s because she’s good with strategies, I immediately thought “so she’s going to be there strategist. She’s going to help them work around problems in their plans and complete their missions successfully.” Idk, she’s still a kid, but that was my first thought
that’s what they need.
Hunters a good battlefield leader but not long term statsgist or director so without a goal he can loose control of the situation do to being unprepared. After all the bad batch weren’t front line soldiers they were blitz raiders. They did short battles or raids not prolonged fights.
Wrecker needs direction in where to use his exsplosives and brawn correctly. Don’t and he’s most likely to do a Leroy jekens and charge the front to early.
Tech needs to be rained in and forced to share his information for plans, because right now he doesn’t share anything. while he also needs directives on what is a threat because he has a habit of underestimating a lot of things.
While echo needs order. He could lead and become similar to Rex but old habits die hard and he needs to gain experiences which requires good direction. As of right now he’s lacking in a sense of freedom and personality because this is the first time he’s ever had it, and sadly his freedom came at a time of vary little control.
Yeah, I am wondering if Omega being Nala Se's medical assistant is more of a cover or something since Episode 1 of the series she has shown abilities that go beyond that job title such as when she precisely shot Crosshair's rifle out of his hand then started blasting without much aiming and then claiming she had never fired a blaster before that moment and now she may be a master strategist or at least has been taught that skill.
@@kevind3974 LEEEEROOOOOOOYY JEEEEEENKIIINS
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This looks like an episode that will be more important later, with the characters returning at the end of the season
Well that didn’t happen
I feel like we need a little more of Tech moving forward. Hunter, Wrecker, Echo, and Omega are all likable characters with depth, but Tech is a little too robotic. I was hoping we’d get some more emotional depth to him and Omega on the Venator bridge.
Same, the conversation about the war could have been so interesting and to hear what a clone would say about the war, but sadly they were interrupted after a few seconds.
I guess the episodes are too short for a one Minute dialogue about the war. Would have been great
As much as I like Omega. I feel like she is too much of a focus of the show. It’s like she took something away from the our male clone characters. I feel like at the end of the series she’ll be a more developed character then Tech, Echo, and Crosshairs and that kinda bothers me. When watching season 7 of clone wars I was excited to see more of clone force 99, and looking at this season it’s like omega got in the way of that. Still a lovable character.
I definitely agree, and personally I would say the same thing about Echo, too. I liked what they did with him in this episode but I don’t like how that’s pretty much the most character they’ve given him so far. I feel like they could do so much with his past from the clone wars- I loved how he used his past with Tarkin to help his squad in the first episode, but then they never do anything like this again, and that was especially disappointing to me in the episode with Rex, a character he had a well developed relationship with but only ended up having like three lines with in this show. In addition, I feel like they could do so much more with the fact that he was a reg, that he doesn’t really fit in as well with the rest of the batch, or his really traumatic past. Instead, the most we really get from him is being the sort of grumpy voice of reason, like a proto-Crosshair. I just feel like he could be so much more.
Would be great if just Tech got into a situation where his emotions take over his training or “programming” and he finally realizes that he’s more than what the Kaminoens made him
he's actually my favourite lol, though wrecker is growing on me a lot. i know it's an important part of his arc to join the batch but i still consider echo part of domino squad because otherwise he'd by far and away be my favourite
*Endgame: Omega Versus Thrawn.* Battle Meditation Strategists.
The Kiners blew me out o' the water with that score again! Beautiful art, spectacular strategies and animation, an excellent plot, and hilarious humor that hits all the delivery points with surprise.
This was a huge setup for a future episode, if not the end of the season or series...
I like how this show shares similarities with the overall narrative of the Mandalorian but is also different enough to not feel repetitive. Whereas Grogu was a mission for Mando at first and then later grew into the role of an adoptive son, Omega is more than just a passive character but rather an important member of the Bad Batch squad.
She isn't just an asset who the batch must protect, but brings her own skills to the table. Hunter leaving her with Cid for her own safety but later forgetting that Omega wasn't with them was a good visualisation of her importance; she might not be as experienced as the rest of the batch but they're learning to see her as a valuable squad member, and by the end of the episode it feels as though Hunter is coming to terms with that.
This episode got me curious about the rules of Dejarik. Apparently it is less like chess and more like Fire Emblem or a strategy video game where the peices have hit points, attack ratings, and special moves. I never knew that!
Agreed!
The planet is beautiful! The animation looked specially good in this episode. Wonder what happened to Lux bonteri.
He’s currently serving as a senator representing his home planet of Onderon at this point in the timeline.
He appeared in Inferno Squad, didn't he? I might be misremembering.
@@kilimanjarocruz660 He did. He became the new Partisans leader after the death of Saw Gerrera, until his faction was infiltrated and wiped out by Inferno squad. When Iden confronted him, he revealed his life as a senator before joining Saw’s rebellion, before then being stunned from Iden’s blaster.
I love how colorful this episode was in comparison to the last couple where everything was a bit drab
I think that being good at strategic thinking is just a genetic trait of Jango Fett. There was a reason that he was chosen as the template and a reason he was successful as a bounty hunter, the fact that he died doing something tactically unwise doesn't negate that. Omega's the oldest member of the Bad Batch in terms of actual days spent alive, and probably had little else to do other than help Nala Se do science and play Dejarik for about a decade, and I bet that studying how this largely unmodified clone performed doing strategic tasks was a source of data for Nala Se as well.
This isn’t my favorite episode but I loved seeing Raxus under imperial occupation.
Senator Singh's hat reminds me of the one the lizard general wore in Genndy's Clone Wars, wondering how many Jedi they'd send.
Like the humour with the Weequay being the bar buddy of the Pantoran, his and the Ithorian's disgust at Sid being tough on Omega.
The easter eggs and homages in general
“I never much cared for that vase.” Lol!
I like how this episode highlights the changes in the clones and how they are willing to adopt empire tactics. Like when the walker fires upon the walker the batch are using to escape when there are regs still inside. They are willing to kill eachother for their objectives. Very empire.
I think we'll all appreciate these slower episodes a lot more once the whole season is out. The fact that we have to wait weekly for each episode makes the fandom want each episode to be some crazy reveal.
This was a simple episode. I like it.
I liked it because it gave us world building and a relative break after the crazy with Crosshair, and Bane
Loved this episode, especially when it comes to dealing with Echo, which has a strong bond with the republic who fought against the Seperatists, who now needs to save his former enemy. This episode sure did gave Echo a huge role
This reminds me of Rex and Kalani in rebels
I hope this episode is just the setup for something interesting in the season finale
I'm only catching up to Bad Batch now but I was not a big fan of Echo's role here. His animosity towards the Separatists in particular is cool and makes sense but I don't think its resolved in a very satisfying way. There's the scene where the separatist tells them about the secret passage and to trust him but he says that to tech and hunter, and wrechers the one to blow up the wall, Echo could've had a nice role there especially sincehe was the one most vocal about the distrust. Its cool that he talks to the senator when they leave about "fighting another day" but that doesn't rly have anything to do with the whole distrust conflict. Not a big fan of the ep for this reason and Echo's relationship with Cid basically being resolved offscreen.
Senator Singh was so polite about asking them to blow up the wall. I hope we see him again!
I feel like the clones are more ruthless now. The At-at steeping over it’s fallen companions
I mean they are bassicaly droids now thanks to the Chip.
Thats why they are all now in completly white armor, to symbolize that
It's AT-TE
Eheheh in the siege of mandalore an atte stepped on a dead clone lmao
It seems the inhibitor chips make the clones follow orders regardless the circumstances.
I love Echo saying live to fight another day. Just think about what he's been through... Putting myself in Echo's shoes, almost brought me to tears in that moment. Filoni is a MASTER storyteller and character developer at this point.
Reminds me of Hevy.
@@s1d3k1ckRO may he rest in peace
Actually Gursimran Sandhu was the main writer of this episode and Filoni isn’t even a head writer or supervising (the head writer is Jennifer Corbett and supervising director is Brad Ray). So storytelling points to them :)
@@fanfusion4276 touch... Although I think the girls without saying that those guys go uncredited with lots of "direction" that is given to the writers.
@Colin Fitzgerald I’d imagine he gives generally story tips and everything for each episode seeing as he’s an executive producer. Similar to George’s role on TCW
I thought it was really cool seeing the recontextualization of the AT-TEs. All through the Clone Wars they were this big symbol of liberation and seeing them become a symbol of oppression by marching on the protestors was a really cool 'Empire using the symbols of the Republic for evil' moment
We needed a bit lower stakes to an episode after the Bracca two parter and Bora Vio, and I think this episode did that perfectly. There's still a lot of good action centered around a pretty bog-standard plot, which is what I think we needed to get a breather in. Plus, it was cool to see some more technical aspects of how AT-TEs work from the crews perspective with the egress hatches on the sides and top.
I have to agree
Worth noting Avi Singh was voiced by Alexander Siddig, making him join Brent Spiner and George Takei as "Star Trek" cast members to voice a character in "Star Wars" (and I'm pretty sure making him the first "Star Trek"/"Star Wars"/"Game of Thrones" actor?).
Thats cool! Thanks for bringing that to my attention. DS9 is my favourite Trek!
I was shocked he played Senator Singh, specially because DS9 is my favorite Star Trek series, and because Clone Wars and that show was suprisingly familiar. Also fun to thinking about that with him, after Jessica Henwick was in the Force Awakens, Pedro Pascal of course, and that India Varna will appear in the Kenobi series, every Star Wars Era has a member of House Martell.
Another great Batch Episode. Did anyone notice the goof at the beginning? The minister tells the droid to carry out his plans and the droid starts walking away from the imperial officer. A moment later the officer calls in the Walkers and the droid is by her side again. Small editing goof.
I did notice that, I just thought it was another droid
I really like Cid's sense of humour
This was one of my favorite episodes all considered, but I definitely see how people can dislike it or at least prefer the other episodes more. I'm a sucker for world building, which this did a lot of. I also enjoyed seeing the squad battle it out without being physically hindered by dragging Omega with them. It felt like they could move faster and be more physical without Omega around. At the same time, Omega being a strategic genius makes sense to me as a direct clone of one of the best bounty hunters ever. I agree that she might even be further enhanced by the Kaminoans.
This was a nice stand-alone episode as it dealt with the Bad Batch having to rescue a Senator on the planet Raxus only that he's a Separatist much to their disdain and animosity towards them especially Echo as the Techno Union made him into a machine back in the Bad Batch arc from Clone Wars. Even it brings in New hindsight from the view of a Separatist leader following the Rise of the Galactic Empire.
Lastly I love the little sideplot where Omega who has to stay behind by the group and plays a pro at Dejarik and is able to get the Bad Batch enough money while at the same time playing off the Debt from Cid.
AT-TEs almost stomping on civilians at a square, I wonder where they got their inspiration from 🤔
Oh dear 😬
Surprised the Disney the lap dog didn't say anything.
🤫 🤫 🤫 they’re watching
Oh yea,just like the [REDACTED]
Reminds me of cops running over protestors last year
I really liked this episode. I love seeing the parallels between the Separatists and the Rebels as well as the transition from the Republic to the Empire with the clones acting like stormtroopers. Also it’s makes sense Hunter would make Omega sit out the mission, she is a kid after all.
I liked the beauty of Raxxas and seeing Echo begin to shift into a different mindset. Omega's cunning strategy was good to see and explains there's still more of her we need to learn about. I also like we get to see a little more of Cid's character as well.😁
I wish they would have expanded more upon the senator being a separatist and him being rescued by former republic forces. They really didn’t have any dialogue between the group.
If a Kurdish rebel and Syrian soldier find themselves both shooting at ISIS do you think they will have a long conversation to discuss the ethics and politics?
@@ChevyChase301 This is Star Wars, not real life. The writers were able to put in jokes throughout the conflict, as is normal for Star Wars content. Couldn’t they have a scene after they escape when they’re on the ship? I was kind of expecting it, instead of a jump cut back to Cid and Omega. Also, don’t you think a separatist senator would wonder why a squad of clones who are known for being genetically engineered to follow orders of the Republic/Empire without question are rescuing him? Could have made for an interesting conversation.
A sentence along the lines of "Well, we're all enemies of the empire" would be nice.
I think it's possible that we'll see him again.
@@ChevyChase301 Very strange comparison.
Loved the episode in its simplicity. Things going sideways to extreme extends is done so much nowadays that a more smooth mission is a nice change! Really enjoyed seeing how the bad batch executed their mission, enlightening how competent they are as a squad.
3:46 “The Kaminoans may have altered her somehow.”
Hmmm… How might she be different from Jango?.. Ah yes, it’s those XX chromosomes.
There are actually at least six chromosome types identified in humans, and XX isn't always found in those we label as female. Omega being femme in appearance is clearly an alteration of sorts, but it isn't exactly major. A minor tweak would be all it would take. If Omega really is the true fifth supercharged clone, then there has to be more to her than the obvious difference.
This episode is definitely not based on the -Tianeman Square incident- ((REDACTED))
Even had tanks.
What are you talking about? Nothing happened on June 4th 1989
tianeman*
I felt like it was more like the tanks surrounding the Russian parliament in 1993, or the 1991 Yeltsin coup.
Definitely feels like there wasn't nearly enough ideological conflict between the governor/droid and the Bad Batch, and any there was got resolved way too quickly. Would've been nice if they had traded barbs or had a simmering layer of resentment that got a dialogue going.
Echo had his doubts, but he really pivoted too quickly from not trusting the Seps at all to trusting the governor right at the end.
Going back to Raxus was awesome. Speaking of I wonder whether we'll see Lux, because he is definitely still around at this point in time, although I don't recall if he was still the senator of Onderon.
At this point I believe he is with the partisans.
@@jackallen6601 I recall she has a daughter affiliated to the Empire, old enough to find Imperial officials who would offer leniency to him in Inferno Squad's book. This would make him joining the partisans actively right away unlikely, although this doesn't mean he would not have supported them (more or less how Organa did)
It felt strange that the Batch and the Senator never had, like, a conversation. They hate him on principle and I bet he's surprised and wary to see clones come to his rescue, but they just kind of ignore the divide that was established after the Batch breaks him out of jail.
Loved the worldbuilding in this episode, and a nice little side story for Cid and Omega. The battle in the city was an incredible callback to WW2 movies.
Also Cid calling Hunter “Bandana” lolllll
@@rachelmeier9444 she also called him dark and gloomy
The animation was amazing in this episode like mind blowing good!
This was actually my favourite episode. As a Seppie myself, I can’t tell you how good it felt to see Raxus again. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I’ve written a fan fiction that’s quite similar to the plot of this episode; that is, a monarch of a Confederacy-aligned planet that was deep in Separatist space and now had to deal with the emerging Imperial threat to its sovereignty, so I really liked this episode. I hope we see more Separatist appearances on this show.
I enjoyed this episode, especially after calming down from the roller coaster of the last 2. I really like that senator, and I love the joke with the vase. It went from a mediocre gag, to a good brick joke, to an amazing payoff moment.
Something I really liked was that they shuned the droid for caring about an aincent Vase, or in other words culture. Something people say only humans could appriciate while robots, or droids, would never be able to appreciate such things.
This was my favorite episode of the show since the 1st
Throughout the episode I kept on calling the senator "Colonel Mustard" due to his monocle, uniform, and mustache.
Liked the Voice Cast on this one: Alexander Siddig (ST: DS9) as the Senator and Sian Clifford ("Flebags" sister) as GS-8. And every time, Omega sounds especialy "new-zealand-ish", I just have to smile.
Big fan of the hat singh wears. Reminded me of Oro Dassyne.
The first scene is so awesome, It actualy became my favourite episode so far! A Separatist Senator being subdued to the Empire? Damn!
This was actually my favorite episodes so far. What I like most about the show (besides Omega's whole thing) is that it shows us how the Galaxy reacts and transitions to the Empire. And seeing that happen on Raxus was really cool. That really reminded me of the political intrigue factor that Clone Wars had in some of its arcs. And I think they will lean more into the separatists side of things, now that they will basically be the good guys. I think that will be important, especially for Andor.
Also, the action in this episode was absolutely top notch!
I like how the droid was talking about following orders, down to the letter. While omega kinda went abit Skywalker on the batch (doing something completely different to what the mission she was given. but what she does is also important. Like how in this episode her sidetrack cleared the batches debt). It could just be me, but I did find it abit out of nowhere how omega has great statistical knowledge. And the episode was also abit of a reminder of how i have no clue how that starwars chess works
Woah he actually gave a less than stellar review? That's rare. I loved the episode to see that old school ARC Trooper elite commandeering of tanks we haven't seen since the vintage 2D Clone Wars series.
this is one of my favorite episodes so far. precisely for the reasons you said. after the past couple of episodes we need a breather. not every shoe can pull off constant action.
It's kind of fun watching a generation of people that are used to streaming, binging, and getting all of their answers immediately in an afternoon of viewing, suffer through weekly shows. This is how it was folks, for many decades. I think it also has a lot to do with how we break down, or criticize an episode.
Droids calling for help is a running theme in Star Wars.
It was a fun episode, and I especially also liked how they stunned the imperial clones instead of killing them. Hopefully we see the female Imperial officer again.
I like Senator Singh because he straight-up is not a Star Wars character. He has a normal earth name, he looks like someone from the 1800s or something, and he uses the word “draconian”, which makes no sense because he is in outer space and there was no Draco.
The last scene of this episode was great. Hunter is coming to terms with what every guardian has to come to terms with: kids grow up and need more trust and autonomy as they do.
Is it my imagination or were the AT-TEs taller in this episode than they were in either The Clone Wars or in the two episodes of Rebels that they were in?
In CW & Rebels, the bottom of the hull of the AT-TE is just slightly taller than the heads of a clone trooper but the AT-TEs in the Bad Batch episode Common Ground, seemed to me to be at least three times taller than the older ones
Why?
I would love an Echo-centered story arc. Echo needs more character development.
Shout out to hunter for practicing common sense and not bringing a child in a warzone
Loved this episode, if mainly for the fantastic cinematography and seeing the slow tank chase through the streets. Mad prequel/clone wars vibes, and showing how the Batch are still sore at Separatists even though what used to be the Republic is now the enemy was great!
Without seeing the episode and only the thumbnail for this video I kept thinking throughout the day “was that Inspector Thanoth or am I losing it?”
Next week’s episode is called “Deal with the devil” how awesome would it be if the bad batch ran into Crimson Dawn? They obviously wouldn’t interact with Maul himself but Dryden Vos is certainly a possibility. It’s a perfect parallel to the current War of the Bounty Hunters comics seeing them in their prime verses their revival.
Didn’t Vos die in Solo? But then again it’s Star Wars. No one really dies. Crimson dawn would be great to see. Qira could be in it.
@@robertm2226 This show takes place well before "Solo."
The world building in this series is amazing!!! Seeing the efects of the expanssion of the Empire, the beggining of the political arrests and toture... So smart!
I actually really liked this episode. I felt like it was good to see CF99 operate in a way that they were probably used to before worrying about Omega. I liked the droid a lot, and I almost wanted it to be part of the team. I liked seeing the CIS balk at the Empire just as much as the rebel factions were, possibly hinting at how the Alliance was able to pull in so many systems so quickly. I think my only down side was there was no Imperial space presence once the Batch was leaving. As soon as they cleared the treetops they were safe. It reminds of how low stakes every story on Rebels felt. Like the Empire has JUST enough manpower to put 20 stormtroopers and a lieutenant planetside, but that's it.
In the case of Rebels I think it was more that with the ghost's signal scrambling and the fact that Lothal was such a small outpost they usually managed to escape before things could get too hairy. They did destroy multiple capitol class ships, but I think The Emperor didn't want to draw too much attention to Lothal... and probably after they lost the Sith Superweapon the Emperor dialed back the pressure a bit cause he wanted Ezra to open the time portal for him.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely loved this episode. It was a simple episode, but it did make me fall in love with The Bad Batch and Omega. I also loved the cute and peaceful ending scene where Hunter and his daughter play hologram chess together silently and the screen fades to black and then the credits. It was such a nice, cute and peaceful scene.
Mainly because of the lockdowns in Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺 , I've just been obsessed with this episode and the show as a whole. Unfortunately Devil's Deal lived up to its name 😂
Cheers and peace.
I feel as though there alot of missed opportunities in this episode. Early on Hunter is hesitant to work with the separatist. I wanted them to delve deeper into it since the Rebublic is now the Empire and the Batch are very close with ant-facist separatist ideas. I wanted them to acknowledge that the Batch are now Rebels and therefore separatist in there own way
Ive always felt like the rebels and separatist are very very close and that its dumb that we saw the Empire is bad in one trilogy and the Republic is seen as the good guys in the next. What changed other than Palpatine being out and proud as a Sith Lord. The senate was corrupt- Palpatine said himself that "he was the Senate"
There are mixed reviews to this episode but I appreciate how they showed whats going on after the war and shows a little bit of what happens to the separatists after the war.
I LOVED THE ECHO AND HARDCASE QUOTE I REALIZED IT RIGHT AWAY
I really like how the droid seemed way more human than any of the clones that got the Order and more charming than any other espionage droid.
This episode was solid. I loved seeing Raxus again and all the moments with Omega and Sid were just great 😃😃
Haven't anyone realized that Omega, because she is a 1st Gen clone, is the Bad Batch's ELDER SISTER? She may look younger but in galactic turns, she is almost as old as Alpha (Boba).
She's not a first gen clone she just the last clone that used Jango samples there's a difference. Omega was probably made after the Battle of Geonosis using Jango's corpse.
@@mightheal That still make her older than Clone Force 99.
@@myyklmax I was commenting more on her age compared to Boba. It's closer to a 8 to 10 year difference.
Do we even know when Clone Force 99 were made?
@@mightheal We know that Rex is also a 1st Gen clone, just like Boba. But Rex went through augmentation and rapid aging. CF99 are possible 2nd or 3rd Gen clones ... 2nd Gen clones from 1st Gen Clones. (This is when the clone sample becomes degraded.) This is because the Republic needed clone troopers as fast as the Separatists could produce droids troopers.
@@myyklmax Yes we know. That has nothing to do with when they were made.
There would have been multiple generations before the clone wars even started just for the simple fact of hitting the size of a army.
I hope Echo gets a chance to reminisce on his old squad, maybe with Omega if she asks how he joined the Bad Batch. Maybe in the background he might have, but I feel like he's carrying some sort of survivor's guilt since he's the only one left. He barely even got a chance to with Rex sadly.
Come to think of it, I dunno how much Star Wars has ever delved into PTSD with any characters who have been in said wars.
A small detail I like is that the Batch stun the clones instead of killing them. It makes sense they wouldn’t want to unnecessarily kill their brothers.
A very simple episode, but a very necessary one too, the Batch finally seeing eye to eye with Separatists and having their ideologies adapted, as well as finally getting off their debt to Cid, means they can do other things with a more open mind
She’s a savant at… everything
Stun blasts seem so effective that it makes me wonder why any decent person in the SW galaxy would use lethal blasts in most scenarios
Echo and Tech need their own solo episodes.
I really liked this episode. Omega rocked it.
Raxus is my Star Wars vacation planet of choice now
I’m glad this channel exists because I always forget the planets lol. As I was watching the episode, I was like “why does Raxus sound so familiar?”.
Isn't it funny that Raksist as a capital planet I'd far more friendly and beautiful than Corasaunt. It's just a really interesting difference.
liked it a lot, the AT-TE stuff was fun and it was really interesting to see first hand how the Empire now controls the Seperatists. can't help myself but to feel sorry for them.
Definitely wish there was more of an arc for Echo here. One or two more scenes could have set up the transition
I loved the part where Cid yells at Omega and the two guys in the background just kinda shake their heads at her.
When do you think Omega will get some armor?
Every single episode, the animation awes me with how good it looks.
This episode was such a missed opportunity. It really just felt like a lot of visual noise. For an episode set in the Separatist capitol, with the Batch forced to work with a Separatist, no one's thoughts were challenged like in prior episodes. I doubt Echo thinks any different about the Separatists after this episode, neither any of the Bad Batch. The mission could have been on any other planet doing practically anything else and the story beats would have been relatively the same. With exception to the opening, the writers didn't really take advantage of such a significant setting to tell anything worth of note. The B plot with Omega was honestly more engaging that the extraction on Raxus.
I noticed that they were stunning the regs as well. It feels like a rarely seen thing in Star Wars using the stun setting. If anything they use it more often in Star Trek. I can understand why Echo was at first ify about helping a former separatist. It's a good episode and I enjoyed it.
I wish we would have got to see more of Echo not being cool with this mission
My only problem with this episode is I wish we could have had a conversation with that pro sepretist senator and the BB about his reasons for leaving the republic in the first place. Would have had a deep conversation their.
Here again watching this after the new episode of season 3 of the Bad Batch
Facts LUV the stun guns
5:20
I laughed when they also Stunned Captain Bragg, i can only imaginé her Being humiliated after she learned Avi Singh and the Bad batch escaped even though she is still the captain of the Planet
Also did You know that the droid she was gonna use to torture him was the same one that was used by Darth Vader in a new hope
I can't wait to see the Queen's Gambit filler episode of Thrawn vs. Omega playing Dejarik.
This episode is great. It would seem bad batch is using non lethal fully. But one gripe I have for the show is the lack of any other clone armor beside the plain p2 troopers.
No pilots and gunners all we see is plain p2 troopers which is weird maybe the empire retired all of the other armor or the budget was dried up so they just used plain p2.
To say this is a weak episode when it is still amazing overall is still an awesome compliment. I loved the emotional feels this one gave and I felt genuine sympathy for the senator. :)
I must say, i really hope Hunter won that last chess match... it was so nice to see the squad go on a mission where they weren't having to baby sit/rescue omega. I really hope her newfound strategic skills means she can add something to the crew because i really realized watching this episode have omega be so young might not be a good thing since she has a hard time taking care of herself (except for the weird moments where she does a better job than the 4 badass veteran commandos out of the blue because plot?). I really like her and maybe its just because we just had an arch of rescuing her but it feels like she cant be a part of the team until she can look after herself.
I believe you missed a bit of development on Sid's part.
Remember at the beginning of the episode she didn't lie that she had to be babbysitter to Omega while the Batch was off on the Mission. Sid saw Omega as just a bother. But at the end she changed her tune with the line " Hey that kid just made enough money to pay of your debt to me, so lay off my friend." Friend. it may be a mercenary type friendship, but Sid is now on Omegas side. :-)
I wonder if the clones on Raxxus had any feeing towards the planet? Like does the inhibitor chip get rid of that part of the brain the holds grudges?
Omega learns. She learned Chess