What happens if you fly into rain?!
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I'm sure you saw the video of the guy who was flying in the rain and went parachutal stall.......his crash was not pretty! Glad all ended well though.....video on, dude! ruclips.net/video/ZFcP2OsOT2A/видео.html...when wet, trims out n fly fast to keep up speed with the heavier/less arrow-dynamic wing....
Oh wow! I have never seen that one. That's a perfect example. The pilot did the exact opposite of what you're supposed to do.
Did you notice his knee pads, very good idea!
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I've also gotten stuck in the rain. I'm yelling "oh shit oh shit oh shit!" as my glasses are getting soaked and I cant see. I've never seen anyone go into a deep stall from rain before and I was 15 miles out from the landing zone over trees and undesirable outs. I was asking myself the entire time "How wet is too wet? Because its really wet for it to come down on me and get my glasses covered". Ended up getting back safely but I don't want to deal with that again...
Crazy how motors always start on the first pull on RUclips ;)
HAHAHA that's awesome, next video idea..Judson starts his paramotor!
My top 80 always starts first pull hahaha!!
i know what you mean though Jud!!
Hey it was awesome meeting you last night,nice landing brah!!
Pretty sure Judson watches this channel, considering he's been in some of the videos. :'D Besides, he meant it in more of a general way. Across youtube, it's generally only the successful pull that makes the video.
@@jibiss123 you're on.
Just like when you're looking for something, it's always in the last place you look... :-)
Your videos are awesome . I am 65 in June and retirement and life was getting a bit boring at times . Your videos took care of that problem , thank u ! Bob
Question to anyone that does this . If your motor dies out I would imagine you could just glide back to your destination if its not too far
. Am i thinking right lol Thank You all .
late on this reply but yes, if your engine dies you just glide like a hang glider.
@@dougfoster445 Thank you or replying !
You can probably drive 4-5 miles without engine
Being "legal" is not the same as being"safe". The prospect of a water soaked wing would make me very nervous. Good call to abort. Those type of clouds, that bring rain, should be called "beer clouds". When they arrive, it's time to land and open some beer. Maybe open up the garage door, light up the BBQ, and cook up some hot dogs to go with the beer. Then trade tall tales of your flying adventures, have some laughs, and try again another day.
Beer clouds. Amazing reframe dude. Makes me WANT it to rain...
Thanks for sharing your valuable experiences and insight. And as always thanks for taking us along for the ride.
0:40 this VW looks so well preserved, so beautiful.
You definitely made the right call on this one
Thanks for another great video. Like the way you talked thru the "safety" decision making process. Stay safe.
Awesome video, Tucker. Great ADM in choosing to land. Thanks for sharing your reasoning and the logisitcs involved in flying a paramotor in rain. I fly fixed wing airplanes all the time, but I alway learn something new from your videos. Thanks!
7:55 REST IN PEACE JEFF.
Glad to see you doing the safe thing. It sets a good example for everyone.
One thing you might consider for a followup to this, if you do end up with a wet or damp wing, what's the best way to get it dried out? Obviously you don't just fold it up and put it in the bag wet (well not if you want it to be a wing again in the future).
I'd been taught to open it up & leave it in a cool, dark, dry room. I've found it dries over night, but that prob depends on humidity.
Tucker,great footage. This was a situation I was curious about. Thanks for the clarification in this terrifying flight,to me..You're knowledge&insight brings me to enter this sport. Thank you!
Cross country trip on paramotor. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
Awesome video Tucker! I like this format where you provide commentary, tips, and tricks. Keep up the great work. 👍👍👍👍
Peego 1 me too it really adds something, makes for better quality I think.
There's another thing that can happen - the parafoil cells can collapse, the top and bottom surfaces stick together and won't inflate again - this is very bad.
I saw this happen when flying my 10 foot flexifoil kite in the rain - it quickly became useless and wouldn't fly until dried out.
This applies to wingtip-collapses as well, with potenitally very bad outcome. So think twice before pulling ears.
Perhaps some semi rigid spars or reinforcement sewn into the ripstop could help keep the pockets open to prevent collapse.
Probably too much weight and problems packaging the glider. Just fly in the sunshine - it's more fun anyway. :-D
Maybe a system like Swing's RAST might help.
Would like to see more on fly camping and the best / minimum equipment to take. Many thanks.
RIP JEFF
Good instruction at the end. Thanks.
I was trying to climb in the clouds to 3000m in Turkey a few days ago and got soaked (don't worry the cloud was kiiiinda safe to climb in), as i thought the wing was completely dry went to climb a narrow, but really strong thermal, ended up stalling the wing, luckily with a fast recovery, loosing only about 30-50 meters. Flying a wet wing is no joke, stay safe!
Sounds like the same effect planes encounter with ice. I think I heard Jeff say his baffles were soaked inside.. So good to hear critical safety instead of critical condition.
The green paramotor merch shirt is great! Fine job!
im glad you didnt continue to fly in that mist/rain.
would be an interesting experiment with a wing in a wind tunnel, spray it with water, and see how the lift changes.
will you try that 12 hour challenge again some other time?
Yup, we're planning on it!
At least you only have a few yards of fabric to put away. Those three balloonists probably had a fun time packing away their equipment. I've put one of my first balloons away wet, nothing like adding 300 lbs to my already 400 lbs system lol! Soft Landings friend!
LOL... Nice!! Love when you circle the Balloons... They must love seeing you up there too? :-) The "science behind the potential stall" sounds right to me, as it is basically the same principle behind Ice build up on a standard airplane wing. ANYWAY... Love the videos, and I anticipate every one you publish... Cheers from Northern NH!!!
Good abort! A couple weeks ago, I went up and as soon as I got over the trees, I could see rain to the north, maybe 8 miles away or so... checked radar, and saw a cell moving toward the LZ from the south, so I nope'd out of the sky.
Good information here and you explained it very well
I liked the theory behind, thanks for explaining that. I was wondering if you would lose lift a bit or at the point that you will stall. great flight
I am really taking an interest in paramotoring. I've always wanted to fly, but I didn't want to do Cessnas or anything. I wanted to build my own... like a flying wing... something light and slow, something that I could still kinda-sorta-maybe drink my morning coffee in while cruising.
Paramotoring looks like a really good option... there's a lot less mechanical nuts and bolts and swing arms and poles and the like to break or snap or just not function. This looks actually a LOT safer than other light craft. Such as, if you suffer an engine failure ... no big deal ... so long as your landing area is clear.
I love your van life videos
Thanks again, master! Mist and light rain are not much of a problem as long as the wing dries up faster than it gets wet....
So just a patch of mist or some rain drops (there might even be a small drizzle while you're up while it's still dry on the ground, the rain evaporates while falling) is not a big problem, as long as you can fly out of it. Anyone got a wind tunnel in his back yard? It might be quite interesting to do some research on wetness of the wing vs flyability.
Thanks for the video, Tucker. Very informative.
I have flow in tons of rain in hang gliders, even heavy rain, with less than 5% performance loss. You should try flying in HAIL! I was like 'what is that white line on the ground? t ink tink tink tink Tink TINK TINK WAck WHACK WHACK Ahhhhh! luckily in a HG you are prone so you just put your head down. But it hurts your hands and arms and shoulders. Wet wings suck. Excellent vid.
Was thinking about the problems you might encounter communicating with your partner on a long cross country over blue tooth. I recently got my Ham radio license and think that for long cross country flying this is the way to go. Decent handheld two-way Ham radios have batteries that can stay on in standby/listening mode all day long, and you can be many miles apart and still talk. Of course now that I think about it, you could always just call on your cell phone, but where's the fun in that? ;-)
Ahh you made it rain, Tucker! 😁
Good info to know. In my research on paramotors, I've heard that same thing about "falling out of the sky" - being wet sucks anyway, so a pretty easy decision for me to stay parked on the ground. If you get caught in the rain on your way home, it's good to know there are tricks to keep you flying, and to land safely. 👍
"What happens if you fly into the rain?" Hmmm, let me ponder on this a moment...O- OK, you, you, You get wet! How about wing icing? Do you have de-icers? LOL!
Superb
Interesting about water disrupting the airflow. I was always taught that when water collects in the wing it goes to the lowest point, usually the tail. If enough water accumulates it begins pulling the tail down and can pull it down far enough that you go into a full stall and start dropping.
Tucker, when will you do another flight to Mc Donalds?
When they introduce the Gott burger and flies.
Great video as always
That was a lot of fuel to be carrying with a wet wing! I’m glad you didn’t fall out of the sky!
I think it's actually advantageous to be heavier, as the wingload rises, which makes collapses less probable.
higher wing loading makes for faster flight and a more responsive wing.
Since you are headed west again, could you get some fly by footage of Mount St. Helens? It is other Earthly!
Those biscuits were a little too risky.
Just wait for a sunny clear day to do that.
Tucker, you have your Private Pilot's license, right? Would you compare misting on your paramotor wing to icing on a fixed wing ? Great info, thanks!
i read on a ppg forum that one guy's wing collapsed in the center and nearly folded in half when he was caught in the rain. he managed to inflate his wing and land safely. he got lucky.
26,275 views and only 1,535 likes? Really? Awesome video, Tucker! Thumb's up as always.
I flew the same day over at Solberg Airport. Got a bit wet and let the wing dry out in the hangar overnight ha.
Plan on eventually getting a paramotor for some weekend fun, however unless advised against it from someone that seems to know better I plan on soaking wing in a super hydrophobic coating and letting it dry. To avoid any issues that may come of wings getting damp or waterlogged.
Thoughts on this.
Lol, too funny. When you were getting off the ground prior to your flight, with the paramotor on your back, I thought you had a fake ass strapped behind you. Only when I rewound the video did I realize it was your fuel tank.
There's an idea for a custom tank
What's above the Beetle? Looks like an ultra light frame.
Good decision making. Good explanation of the aerodynamics. I never thought you could fly in rain. Being able to see becomes a problem and a face mask isn't going to help much. Besides who likes to getting soaking wet while flying? And what you get after wet is cold.
Where can i Buy one
Edit:Great Video
TRY USING CLEAR PLEXIGLASS AS A SORT OF UMBRELLA DOME SHIELD 👌💯
What about spraying the wing with a waterproofer.
I’m in CT keep seeing the same weather a few hours after you get it.. Been dying to get up in the air, but the weather has been garbage for like 2 weeks.
@Tucker Gott, have you thought about spraying your wing's with that hydrophobic spray they use on clothing and phones? it will make it impossible for your wing to get wet even in heavy rain the water will literally just fall off.
U did this video When i was going to school
As always, thanks for the info brother! #StayFly
What if you sprayed your wing with water repellent starch? I know you wouldn't want to get it drenched, but it would repel the little water it comes into contact with. It shouldn't effect weight.? It would probably make it more aerodynamic, by slicking the material! Any suggestions?
Can you do a roadtrip with the paramotor?? Or more like skytrip
I wonder if Scotch guarding the wing would have adverse affects to the fabric. I mean normal fabrics that we would want to have water bead up and roll away on the ground is one thing. A fabric that you are flying through the sky under is another thing altogether. But If Scotch guarding doesn't harm the fabric and helps prevent the water from soaking in then right there is allot of weight you are not gaining. And yeah he said modern fabrics tend to bead water. They may not roll off water as affectively as if it was Scotch guarded. Anyways just me being curious.
so Tucker I don't fly I just love to watch your videos but now I am confused...if you lose all power or get in trouble does the wing act as a parachute? Can you land it just like you was parachuting or skydiving?
He dies after the machine turns off.
Yup, if you lose power it's not a big deal. Our wings glide better than skydiving parachutes. Check out this video. Jeff has a motor out at maybe 1,000 ft and glides for a while to a corn field. ruclips.net/video/lCTLEzvp78g/видео.html
@@TuckerGott what was the deal with captain kirt did u ever speak with him after the video he done about you? what i think is he should just concentrate on his own students or him self he was way out of line telling you your going to die some bloke🤡 any way keep up the good work w8n 4 next vid🤙
@Colin I posted a well thought out reply on his video the day it came out. It quickly got more likes than his whole video then he deleted it along with any other comments that supported me. Later, he disabled comments all together on that video. The title was "A MESSAGE to Tucker Gott" but he's not willing to accept a reply. I think it says something about his character and intentions in just the fact that he wanted it to be a one sided conversation.
@@TuckerGott i have only been able watch a couple of his vids as the way he puts him self across like everyone is wrong and hes always rite and you should always listen to me gets rite on my nipples lol you do a fantastic job of putting over the benefits and pitfalls of paramotoring it just goes to show that you dont have to be a captain to be good in the air hehe
Get it!
Is there much lrisk that lightning will strike a paramotor in the sky instead of ground on earth? Also, when it starts to rain, why not just fly above the cloudes?
Interesting video Tuck. I would imagine that you guys with your highly loaded small wings would fair better in the rain than someone on a big floaty wing that's less loaded?
I believe a higher loaded wing would be more resistant to rain, but I also have heard that a higher performance wing (profile) is less resistant to rain. So theoretically a highly loaded, low performance wing would be best. Still, the best advice is to stay out of the rain. 😉
It's basically the same situation as ice buildup on an aircraft wing.
WOW!!! 9:16 in my time when you said "IT'S 7:16".
With the low-porosity fabric the water would likely accumulate in the backs of the cells. Does your wing have vents at the back of the cell? My lo-po Performance Designs Sabre parachute did not. Once you get enough water sloshing around the cells all bets are off!
what if you spray the parachute with hydrophobic spray?
Hey Tucker, I'm watching your videos sometimes. I think it would be amazing if you could upload in 4K or at least 1440p. Are you planning to do so?
Yeah that would be great
I suggested to you on another video to put a windsock on your van when you are discussing doing flybuys near your Landing site to figure out which way the wind was blowing.
Additionally I heard you complaining about bad internet service and I was watching a girls RV life video where she reviewed three different cell extenders you could put this on the same pole as your windsock allowing you to upload videos without buying a $5 cup of coffee at Starbucks
You shoulda wore your air foil shirt for the talk about aerodynamics
I know there are chemicals that can be applied to various fabrics to make them water resistant or water proof. Can a wing be made water resistant or water proofed?
You can use Rain-X wipes for the lens next time.
A bit surprised. Aren't the wings made of water-proof material?
Love to have that VW.
Love you bro from India
Tucker, your GoPro 4 has a mount with the Bluetooth logo. Is that for an audio link?
Yup, the Sena backpack to be exact. All the gear is linked in the description.
Got a question, that instructor guy, flight junkies, did u make a response video to that, probably get hella views
He doesn't deserve the attention.
Yoooo Nice video dude. Hello from The Czech republic / dream big
Parashutal stall, would there be anything similar when it comes to balloons?
Do you have direct communication with any traffic control towers if there became an need to do so? I understand that you would not normally do so.
4:22 two the video glitched out and the prepallirs stoped working lol🤣
Hey tucker, great video. Going to aviator to learn ppg.
Do u know what dates are the 2022 Salton sea ppg fly in.
Tx
Robert Dubsky
Damn notifications aren't working for a few ppg channels again. Thanks goolag.
Edit for typo
Happened to me the other day, took off and 10 miles, on the way back saw a wall of rain coming at me
A lot more terrifying at 700 feet
does "wing" = "parachute" ?
Got nailed in patchy rain while skydiving, wet cold and it hurt.
isn't there a risk of lightning as well with cloudy weather ?
Must be a bit of a pain getting the wing dried off completely especially if there's water in the cells?
It's no big deal, as there's not that much water getting into your wing. Just hang it on some drying-racks and wait some hours for the water to evaporate. When you love to fly, you'll love your wing and will do everything to make it feel comfortable. ;-)
0:50 is that Bumblebee?
Question - Once you have a soaking wet wing, do you have to hang it out to dry to prevent mold or mildew similar to a tent or EZ-UP?
We spread out our wings and put some fans on them. We rotated them to dry them out as best as we could then flew them asap in dry conditions to get them completely dry.
Interesting. Thanks! Keep up the great material!
Do you ever spot weed plants?
Rain on the leading edge does not stick there. When the airflow separates from the profile you might get a stall. (Depending on speed, angle of attack and profile design. But actually that is with critical designed profiles more profound. A paraglider has not a critical profile. A paraglider profile is stable and restricted speed range capable. Therefore a stall due to rain and airflow separation is not correct. Certainly not on the leading edge. I have a bitt of experience in aviation😉
I was also told that the water could enter the cells at the leading edge and migrate to the trailing edges of the wing. This would shift the c of g back behind the centre of pressure and put you into a non recoverable full stall. Same thing if you fly in snow. Not sure if there's any truth in it but don't want to test the theory!
G Phillips My first gen Universal has a slit on each trailing edge of the tips for sand. That might dump rain water, but snow is a different story!
My second question is can you fly in thunder storms but around
trie 3d printer w that.
*If you bring a lot of fuel can you fly cross-country?*
The maximum amount of fuel we can carry is 5 gallons. We can fuel up at gas stations and airports though. Check out my Icarus playlist, I covered 1,200 miles in 5 days!
Here's the link. ruclips.net/p/PL2iuzquEBcvq-W87C4bMnFLZTMA-x19Qf
Tucker I challenged Mark also but can you do a misty landing.. Is that something you've practiced before? Just curious how hard it is to pull off with a motor.
Do you mean a heli landing? That's something that takes a lot of training to do without breaking anything.
Yeah I may have the terminology wrong.
ruclips.net/video/xCL7BNt59bE/видео.html This is a good tutorial video.