A new video out on the death knights. Check out the second channel Doron's Academy for videos on history and science. ruclips.net/channel/UCtZXPhZ4OQoTdb2_dPbqooA
Blizzard missed a HUGE opportunity in LK. The original design intent was for players to sacrifice a current character, to have it raised as a deathknight. Heck, DK cinematic even talks about how you were a hero who sacrificed them self to buy the world another day, but then nothing in the gameplay or story quests in the DK starter zone has any follow up to that opening monologue. Then when you meet the argent character in the burning church, that quest text mentions how you were both hero's and he or she thought you were dead. So Blizzard scrapped the idea after the cinematic dialogue had been recorded it, but didn't bother to fix or reference it in the game. It would have been much, much, much, more compelling to have to sacrifice a 55+ level character in order to create the DK. It also should have been a epic quest line leading up to the sacrifice, and this would have dramatically reduced the number of DK's running around in LK because players would have HAD to make that hard choice to kill that time invested, established, high level character to play this new class. It would have made the class so much more interesting because of having to made that choice to play it, not to mention the story quests in the DK starting zone would have made so much more sense!
That idea was arround when wotlk was in develop. But they ultimate scrapped it because what if thousands would make the decision and become death kinights. It would be problematic because it could drastically reduce the amount of other classes and create imbalance
Cool idea but your not a dev, so they must of scrapped it for good reasons. My thinking is that generally making a person who put time into a char to sacrifice it would be a bad idea, also people would just level a character to 55 then do it, effectively make the point that a DK starts at 55 pointless
@@mk_gamíng0609 yup. If that was how you were supposed to do it I'd just get a monk on healer spec to level 55 and sacrifice it. It would be pretty cool but not convenient.
Since my main is a human death knight, I usually say he classifies underneath 2nd generation since I also say he was part of the silver hand in life, and most death knights of that generation were primarily fallen human paladins (I've been playing him since 2008 so I'd say I've more than earned the right).
2 cups of edgyness (12% dank) 1,5 cup of rot and scourge 19 grams of scourged grain (glutenfree) A little pinch of salt A shit ton of pepper 1 liter water (glutenfree) Mix it just like grandma' would Let it cool in moms basement for 4 hours Ad a little pinch of nixxiom and thats the main ingredients for a lvl 58, salty DK. No pun intended.
The First Generation Death Knights wielded melee weapons in many of the official artworks. They also wore heavy plate armour. They were supposed to be a dark mirror of Paladins but it seemed more like they were casters in tanking gear. EDIT: Also there are accounts of Third Generations that either was not killed first but directly made into a Scourge servant and others that were kept alive and their bodies slowly died as they grew stronger as Death Knights.
You see. When a Mommy DK and a Daddy DK love each other very much. They kill a guy and 9 months later The Lich King leaves a surprise on your door mat.
@@shadowgamer4306 they started to follow Illidan because they didnt really have anything left, after the legion took everything from them by killing their families or destroying their homes, so they dont really care if they die, they just want to defeat the legion.... dunno what are their motives in bfa tho, because there are still demons in azeroth, but Sylvanas wanted to kill herself after the defeat of the lich king too because she reached her ultimate goal and she was just a wretched zombie, like the dh's are just corrupted people who are looked down upon by their people. I'm not sure about the process itself tho, i guess they have to eat demon hearts and their eyes are burnt out
Prince of Loarderon thnx for the explanations but i already knew how they were created but i love to see doron talk about them because he always brings some new stuff about something
Two questions: 1. You mentioned eating. But do they have to? Do the feel hunger? 2. You said that they would feel pain if the don't inflict it on others. Does that mean I have to constantly scream if I roleplay a DK?
This may help you There are two tipe of banshees the firts one is the good banshee and before she die and becoming a banshee she had a happy life but when she died she start protecting her family The second one is just like sylvanas ...before she die ,her family wasn't love her so when she died her family was cursed by her i mean that she was trying not to help her family but to kill them (i think i saw it form a chanel RUclips named "draw my life") I hope this comment helped you and have a nice day 🙂
@@kalliro9699 yeah sure....maybe you need to read some lore on her. sylvanas fought for her people and was killed by the liche king and he brought her back to torment her and make her watch her peole be tortured...short version.
Although second-generation death knights were mostly former paladins, some of them were also warriors. Falwyn, Marwyn, and Baron Rivendare weren't paladins in life, and I believe that Thassarian is technically a second-generation Death Knight, too. In fact, I think Thassarian was the third Death Knight raised by the Lich King, and he later participated in the slaughter at the Capital City in Lordaeron.
I always thought that Arthas, DK's, Acolytes and Necromancers and such are actually living, not undead. Just using necromancy and creating actual undead.
Hey doronsmovies I have a question on the current raid of BFA. who were the restless cabal and how did they get their positions of power or more simply put who were they before they became nasty tentacle monsters
I haven't played wow in almost a year but DK was my main since first day of wotlk. Through the good and bad times I was a sucker for unholy. Ran the shit out of tsg or dot cleave. I have almost 15k hours on the first dk I ever made. I miss playing it but to issues irl and how the game has progressed, I haven't had the desire I once had to play. Going from pure addiction to questioning my life choices. It was for the best to call it quits but I still represent the game from a longterm perspective. I'll finish this mindless rambling by saying, "FOR THE HORDE!"...
The Lich king needed an army and the sword was so powerful that it was able to steal souls and still manage to utilize them in combat and battles. They were like demon possessed same as Arthas became after so long the dark energy is tempting. Vast amounts of power super quickly
Funfact, The Sith and their lore were partially inspired by the Death Knights of Dungeons and Dragons and Dragonlance. Even the concept of a Sith Sacrifice is similar to how Death Knights is created when a Paladin or Knight commits an extremely evil crime/deed.
I am not really sure death knights in first generation is "generally physically weak necromancers"... They more like soldiers without tired and fear, with magical power from Orc warlock and strength from human knight.
Their bodies are rotten however and the magic that keeps the body bound together is not as sophisticated as in later generation Death Knights. I assume that's why it's stated the 1st generation are physically weak.
Imagine necromancer class, how cool it would be to be a caster with some nectoric stuff and zombie army following you something like mix of unholy and demonology warlock, ufff i would shit myself to see that
Can you make a video about how powerful and important are the players? Because the players save the world many times. Such as dh player is basically the strongest demon hunter on Azeroth, now that Illidan leave.
The only thing we know that the current Lich King is doing is "Preparing something even greater than Arthas had planned" or something along those lines. He says so in the DK's Class Mount quest line.
Well, yes he is. You're tasked in creating the new four horsemen for Bolvar, even defiling a corpse off of the Horde and the Scarlet Crusade. Doubt he isn't building a much greater army.
Did you know I caught the lich king breathing? at the very end of the wrath cinematic, right after the line "you shall be king" the LK exhales and you can see frosty breath yeah, I thought he was dead and death knights weren't allowed to eat drink sleep or anything human, so i'd assume that would extend to breathing. I don't know, not a expert in this field.
You mean how a Death Knight became Lich King? Well I think Arthas was considered a second generation death knight before he fully fused with Nerzul or whoever to become the lich king.
@Doronsmovies, Corrupted Arthus soul?..if only...too bad Frostmourne claimed Arthus soul as one of the first of many... Know your Warcraft 3 lore...mortal...
If you mean the player, then it's because the player is playing during the time where the lich king still had power. If now then it's probably because frost dks have the shards of frostmourne as their artifact.
i was always kind of disapointed all death knights are basiclly warriors when they come from any class, could have asily had each specialization be a little subclass for warrior,rogue and mage deathknights, make hero classes more unique past just strating at a higher level and add variety, could still keep the fact there half warrior, ei mage death knights might use polearms as a melee staff
They tried that with Druid in Cata or Panda i believe. There is a spell that give different things depending on who he cast it to. It is apparantly a nightmare to balance so they give up. Making DK's endgame a bit different depending on what their OG class will be just plain nightmare.
Late response but. Bolvars generation of death knights are actually weaker. When arthas created the third generation he instilled the endless hunger and the training regiment you can safely say was equal if not worse than illidans for his illidari and we all know how brutal that training was. Bolvars generation also chose to become death knights and they also lack the eternal hunger. Lore wise his breed is weaker than arthas's.
Can't you get banned if you use a G2A code in wow? There's that risk that the code you bought was stolen from somewhere. I mean I could be wrong but still
G2A is a gray market, meaning there is always a certain risk of buying stuff on there. I'd advice to buyers to always buy from sellers with the certified tag, then you have the greatest chance the seller is legit. Whether Blizzard will ban you for having bought stolen digital items, I cannot confirm or deny. I do believe there is an article in the Terms of Service where they state you should not buy digital content from 3rd parties.
Funfact, The Sith and their lore were partially inspired by the Death Knights of Dungeons and Dragons and Dragonlance. Even the concept of a Sith Sacrifice is similar to how Death Knights is created when a Paladin or Knight commits an extremely evil crime/deed.
dk are one of the class that i will never play i dont like it they cant use shield and transmog are so black dark necromancer play dk is like listen to metal
A new video out on the death knights. Check out the second channel Doron's Academy for videos on history and science. ruclips.net/channel/UCtZXPhZ4OQoTdb2_dPbqooA
Blizzard missed a HUGE opportunity in LK. The original design intent was for players to sacrifice a current character, to have it raised as a deathknight. Heck, DK cinematic even talks about how you were a hero who sacrificed them self to buy the world another day, but then nothing in the gameplay or story quests in the DK starter zone has any follow up to that opening monologue. Then when you meet the argent character in the burning church, that quest text mentions how you were both hero's and he or she thought you were dead.
So Blizzard scrapped the idea after the cinematic dialogue had been recorded it, but didn't bother to fix or reference it in the game. It would have been much, much, much, more compelling to have to sacrifice a 55+ level character in order to create the DK. It also should have been a epic quest line leading up to the sacrifice, and this would have dramatically reduced the number of DK's running around in LK because players would have HAD to make that hard choice to kill that time invested, established, high level character to play this new class. It would have made the class so much more interesting because of having to made that choice to play it, not to mention the story quests in the DK starting zone would have made so much more sense!
Thats super cool idea. What if depending on the class you were before it somehow had an effect on your character once you became a DK
@@RollerDerbyHigh these 2 ideas should have been implemented damn, why aren't you guys developers, something is wrong here
That idea was arround when wotlk was in develop. But they ultimate scrapped it because what if thousands would make the decision and become death kinights.
It would be problematic because it could drastically reduce the amount of other classes and create imbalance
Cool idea but your not a dev, so they must of scrapped it for good reasons. My thinking is that generally making a person who put time into a char to sacrifice it would be a bad idea, also people would just level a character to 55 then do it, effectively make the point that a DK starts at 55 pointless
@@mk_gamíng0609 yup. If that was how you were supposed to do it I'd just get a monk on healer spec to level 55 and sacrifice it. It would be pretty cool but not convenient.
I've always wondered about Undead DKs...
They're just forsaken afflicted with scourge
Arent undead warriors technically dk? And once theyre revived thrice they're undead death knights 💀💀
Since my main is a human death knight, I usually say he classifies underneath 2nd generation since I also say he was part of the silver hand in life, and most death knights of that generation were primarily fallen human paladins (I've been playing him since 2008 so I'd say I've more than earned the right).
2 cups of edgyness (12% dank)
1,5 cup of rot and scourge
19 grams of scourged grain (glutenfree)
A little pinch of salt
A shit ton of pepper
1 liter water (glutenfree)
Mix it just like grandma' would
Let it cool in moms basement for 4 hours
Ad a little pinch of nixxiom and thats the main ingredients for a lvl 58, salty DK.
No pun intended.
HA HA HA HA
Lol
The First Generation Death Knights wielded melee weapons in many of the official artworks. They also wore heavy plate armour. They were supposed to be a dark mirror of Paladins but it seemed more like they were casters in tanking gear.
EDIT: Also there are accounts of Third Generations that either was not killed first but directly made into a Scourge servant and others that were kept alive and their bodies slowly died as they grew stronger as Death Knights.
You see. When a Mommy DK and a Daddy DK love each other very much. They kill a guy and 9 months later The Lich King leaves a surprise on your door mat.
This is FACTS.!
For whatever reason, “door mat” is the most humorous part of this. Made me guffaw
Awesome dude!I love death knights and this video shows that there is more to their story than what some people think
Thanks a lot.
To be honest, it’s a shame that Teron Gorefiend was killed. By my coolest death knight)
@@scarloss474 Gorefiend will return and join Sylvanas)
@@ОбальдМногострельный haha! I can only hope! Maybe Kel'thuzad also to teach necromancers?? XD
This video was very interesting can you do a video about demon hunters and how are they created
Possibly, thank you.
Doronsmovies np your lore videos are always the best and the history and the sience chanell aswell
@@shadowgamer4306 they started to follow Illidan because they didnt really have anything left, after the legion took everything from them by killing their families or destroying their homes, so they dont really care if they die, they just want to defeat the legion.... dunno what are their motives in bfa tho, because there are still demons in azeroth, but Sylvanas wanted to kill herself after the defeat of the lich king too because she reached her ultimate goal and she was just a wretched zombie, like the dh's are just corrupted people who are looked down upon by their people. I'm not sure about the process itself tho, i guess they have to eat demon hearts and their eyes are burnt out
Prince of Loarderon thnx for the explanations but i already knew how they were created but i love to see doron talk about them because he always brings some new stuff about something
If you want to know the full process in details, read the novel "Illidan" that was released at the start of Legion
Two questions:
1. You mentioned eating. But do they have to? Do the feel hunger?
2. You said that they would feel pain if the don't inflict it on others. Does that mean I have to constantly scream if I roleplay a DK?
I love Warcraft lore. I can’t seem to find nearly as much Warcraft lore as Elder Scrolls lore for some reason.
Interesting video, am I even more enlightened. You mind talking about liches now?
Yes i would want to hear about liches too
Pls make a video about how banshees are made and the different types of banshees plsase
This may help you
There are two tipe of banshees the firts one is the good banshee and before she die and becoming a banshee she had a happy life but when she died she start protecting her family
The second one is just like sylvanas ...before she die ,her family wasn't love her so when she died her family was cursed by her i mean that she was trying not to help her family but to kill them (i think i saw it form a chanel RUclips named "draw my life")
I hope this comment helped you and have a nice day 🙂
@@kalliro9699 yeah sure....maybe you need to read some lore on her. sylvanas fought for her people and was killed by the liche king and he brought her back to torment her and make her watch her peole be tortured...short version.
When the Lich King and a corpse love each other very much...
Although second-generation death knights were mostly former paladins, some of them were also warriors. Falwyn, Marwyn, and Baron Rivendare weren't paladins in life, and I believe that Thassarian is technically a second-generation Death Knight, too. In fact, I think Thassarian was the third Death Knight raised by the Lich King, and he later participated in the slaughter at the Capital City in Lordaeron.
Dangit doron!
what ever you do, don't tell them about our dental plans!
The living must not be allowed too know!
I really enjoy your videos man, im surprised you haven't mention anything about KOTEB.
( Knights of the Ebon Blade )
when the lich king and lich queen love each other a lot...
LOL
Holy Crap Doronsmovies video? It's been what? 1 and a half years since the last one? welcome back :D
I always thought that Arthas, DK's, Acolytes and Necromancers and such are actually living, not undead. Just using necromancy and creating actual undead.
DK...love them so much
ME TOO
Can i bay BforA and create new accaunt in order to get boost? On instant gaming or other?
I feel like the Naxxramas themes and music would fit more with this video rather than the music you put up but otherwise good video.
Hey doronsmovies I have a question on the current raid of BFA. who were the restless cabal and how did they get their positions of power or more simply put who were they before they became nasty tentacle monsters
I haven't played wow in almost a year but DK was my main since first day of wotlk. Through the good and bad times I was a sucker for unholy. Ran the shit out of tsg or dot cleave. I have almost 15k hours on the first dk I ever made. I miss playing it but to issues irl and how the game has progressed, I haven't had the desire I once had to play. Going from pure addiction to questioning my life choices. It was for the best to call it quits but I still represent the game from a longterm perspective. I'll finish this mindless rambling by saying, "FOR THE HORDE!"...
The Lich king needed an army and the sword was so powerful that it was able to steal souls and still manage to utilize them in combat and battles. They were like demon possessed same as Arthas became after so long the dark energy is tempting. Vast amounts of power super quickly
I was alive, then Thassarian killed me. Then I woke up again.
Do a versus video The Scourge vs The Burning Legion.
This reminds me a lot of the Sith process from Star Wars!
Funfact, The Sith and their lore were partially inspired by the Death Knights of Dungeons and Dragons and Dragonlance.
Even the concept of a Sith Sacrifice is similar to how Death Knights is created when a Paladin or Knight commits an extremely evil crime/deed.
I thought DK is for 'Donkey Kong' 👌🏻
"drift king"
Oh, man...the images, the music...damn
Hey Doron! You are doing a great job. I want a video about Stefan Vadu lore, please🤗
Still waiting on Pandaren deathknights . . .
So no 4th gen raised specifically to fight the legion?
I am not really sure death knights in first generation is "generally physically weak necromancers"...
They more like soldiers without tired and fear, with magical power from Orc warlock and strength from human knight.
Their bodies are rotten however and the magic that keeps the body bound together is not as sophisticated as in later generation Death Knights. I assume that's why it's stated the 1st generation are physically weak.
@@bobafat2082 Yes my first batch of DK's were on the weaker side!
Imagine necromancer class, how cool it would be to be a caster with some nectoric stuff and zombie army following you something like mix of unholy and demonology warlock, ufff i would shit myself to see that
"they shared a close friendship" sure sure
next how liches are created :3
Can you make a video about how powerful and important are the players? Because the players save the world many times. Such as dh player is basically the strongest demon hunter on Azeroth, now that Illidan leave.
Just LoL cant believe you wrote that
Dark Knights are created when an Warrior bangs a corpse
I dont remember if i came across this in the DK campaign in Legion , but Lore wise is the Lich King still making DKs ?/
The only thing we know that the current Lich King is doing is "Preparing something even greater than Arthas had planned" or something along those lines. He says so in the DK's Class Mount quest line.
Well, yes he is. You're tasked in creating the new four horsemen for Bolvar, even defiling a corpse off of the Horde and the Scarlet Crusade.
Doubt he isn't building a much greater army.
Did you know I caught the lich king breathing?
at the very end of the wrath cinematic,
right after the line "you shall be king" the LK exhales and you can see frosty breath
yeah, I thought he was dead and death knights weren't allowed to eat drink sleep or anything human, so i'd assume that would extend to breathing.
I don't know, not a expert in this field.
But if that was a rule made by Arthas himself specifically for his third generation death knights, he would not need to follow it, right?
@@zombiedemon1762 he also wouldn't need to do it.
@@graniteamerican3547 . That's what I just said.
G2A has wow gametime? Can someone tell me if it is safe?
I bought game time from g2a few times and it was safe but there is still some risk.
The most safe option is to buy it from battlenet
@@szczurenjoyer4146 thank you
Asis Tacilo Bit of a shady company to what I’ve heard. Always safer to go official especially when it comes to dlc and game time etc
TIL the scourge is very proficient in recycling
5:47 Wait, WHAT?!!
SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS!
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
WHO IS HE TALKING ABOUT?!
You mean how a Death Knight became Lich King?
Well I think Arthas was considered a second generation death knight before he fully fused with Nerzul or whoever to become the lich king.
@Doronsmovies,
Corrupted Arthus soul?..if only...too bad Frostmourne claimed Arthus soul as one of the first of many...
Know your Warcraft 3 lore...mortal...
We need Pandaren DKs ...dont ask
Here before Asmongold stretches the 6 minute long video to a 30 minutes long rant on stream. JK love u baldie nohomo
What about the new DK's being made?
If you mean the player, then it's because the player is playing during the time where the lich king still had power. If now then it's probably because frost dks have the shards of frostmourne as their artifact.
@@TuberoseKisser Nah in legion new DK's were made.
Same way the white walker zombies are created in game of thrones. It's all magic.
Consuming a demon
Wrong hero class
So the white walkers of wow basically
i was always kind of disapointed all death knights are basiclly warriors when they come from any class, could have asily had each specialization be a little subclass for warrior,rogue and mage deathknights, make hero classes more unique past just strating at a higher level and add variety, could still keep the fact there half warrior, ei mage death knights might use polearms as a melee staff
So you are saying death knights should have 12+ specs?🤔
They tried that with Druid in Cata or Panda i believe. There is a spell that give different things depending on who he cast it to. It is apparantly a nightmare to balance so they give up.
Making DK's endgame a bit different depending on what their OG class will be just plain nightmare.
I always liked the great sword and ice powers, all while being edgy
Does Bolvar resurrects people and make them DK like Arthas?
Late response but.
Bolvars generation of death knights are actually weaker. When arthas created the third generation he instilled the endless hunger and the training regiment you can safely say was equal if not worse than illidans for his illidari and we all know how brutal that training was. Bolvars generation also chose to become death knights and they also lack the eternal hunger. Lore wise his breed is weaker than arthas's.
Can't you get banned if you use a G2A code in wow? There's that risk that the code you bought was stolen from somewhere.
I mean I could be wrong but still
G2A is a gray market, meaning there is always a certain risk of buying stuff on there. I'd advice to buyers to always buy from sellers with the certified tag, then you have the greatest chance the seller is legit.
Whether Blizzard will ban you for having bought stolen digital items, I cannot confirm or deny. I do believe there is an article in the Terms of Service where they state you should not buy digital content from 3rd parties.
The night king...how else .
Number 12
DK > DH, for ever.
So my dk doesnt like like an undead being at all i guess he pulled a Anakin and went to the darkside willingly
Funfact, The Sith and their lore were partially inspired by the Death Knights of Dungeons and Dragons and Dragonlance.
Even the concept of a Sith Sacrifice is similar to how Death Knights is created when a Paladin or Knight commits an extremely evil crime/deed.
Well duh silly it’s the the night king turns them all in to wights
I dont know if anyone is experiencing this but your voice keeps cracking the mic
Yes there was an issue with a few words but I couldn't rerecord in time.
Welp when a mommy dk and a daddy dk get toghether they make new dk the end :D
dk are one of the class that i will never play i dont like it they cant use shield and transmog are so black dark necromancer play dk is like listen to metal
You can transmog into paladin.
Bruh metal is op af
I just don't get the difference between "human" death knight and undead death knight, isn't supposed to be already undead if you are a dk?
If you are a undead death knight you Probably died and got reincarnated twice lol
@@PeepoFrog well technically, Dk's are undead to begin with, you have to die and is risen as one or have a soul transfer (old gen)
Dead Knights
Why do you do dk clips.you are biased against dks in your other clips.
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Captain America lifts Thors Hammer, Tony stark Dies
Good job man. Now go over there and take your cookie.
Delete this
Worst ending to the marvel movies by far. I hate what Disney's done to the MCU
Imbecile
lol who gives a shit, avengers is for kids and 40 yr olds who like my little pony.
to bad in game they litrally suck
Doron you're not a Muslim are you?